Martian Manhunter

[chlarkfan333]

Alright! Discuss the MM here all you want. :D

[superhippie2000]

I can't wait to see Manhunter in this episode. I hope he does just as well as all the previous DC heroes and villains we have seen on Smallville.

[MidgardDragon]

MM has seemed so cool from the little we've seen, I can't imagine him turning out lame. He definitely won't manage to be lamer than Aquabro.

[chlarkfan333]

I doubt anyone can top Aquabro in the lame department.:lol:

[meteor_phreak]

He's gonna be cool. He's older than them so he should be more serious and collected.

[jimmyolsenblues]

Come on this is a bigger justice league guy than the other two.
there have always been an unsaid who are the more powerful JLA characters and who is the least powerful JLA character.
MM is always classified in the more powerful. Superman is of course classified in the more powerful.

Poor Ollie, all human without his arrows.

[Krypton935]

I can't wait for this between the director's cut and nomal previews this guy looks awesome. I cannot even wait for this.

I do not think it is possible for him to be lame. All the things I've seen/heard about him is awesome.

[lillie_poo_pod]

Yeah I can't see him being lame either. And Phil Morris is playin him which makes it even better.

[Raging Clue]

Looks pretty cool. Just from the trailer he already has more lines than Batista's character had :lol:

[STFanatic]

I can't believe I forgot to watch the Director's cut before now.... Someone slap me.:eek:

[chlarkfan333]

Originally posted by STFanatic
I can't believe I forgot to watch the Director's cut before now.... Someone slap me.

*Slaps STFanatic as per request* :p

Looks like MM will fly in this episode. Nospam just posted a link to an interview with PM over in the spoilers section in which PM states he flies in this eppy.:D

[STFanatic]

Groovy!!!!

[Krypton935]

totally that should be cool to see.

[superhippie2000]

only been there for a few seconds but good so far. looking forward to seeing him in the rest of the episode

[shansgrl]

I like him!!!

[Rafael122]

How does Martian know he's Kal-El?

[superhippie2000]

manhunter was awsome. great to see him fly agian and have red eyes.


Originally posted by Rafael122
How does Martian know he's Kal-El?


He can read clarks mind and he may also have known jor el.

[loislover]

i think he will be great with some character development, but based off of this episode the choices in the poll are not very good.

[HowardFilms]

Yeah, I'm reserving judgement for the moment but I had chills when he said "I'm from Mars."

If he becomes a bigger character and is involved in the impending season finale fight, he has the potential to be even better than GA.

[Lexgirl33]

Originally posted by chlarkfan333
I doubt anyone can top Aquabro in the lame department.:lol:

buahaha I totally agree! :lol:

[Rachel B]

I lked him alot I think he has potential to be a great asset to SV, if the writer's can treat the character right.

[Raging Clue]

I think he is gonna be the most interesting character, mainly because I know nothing about him and his powers seem awesome.

[xrayvision]

Great character. I'm looking forward to his next appearance.

[Ardiem3]

Martain Manhunter was brilliant in this episode. The way he spoke and interacted with Clark, great. I loved when his eyes changed and he flew off at the end of the epispde. I cant wait until i see more of him at the end of the season!!!!! Great episode by the way. 1 more Zoner to go!

[ForzaItalia]

Run introduced us to Bart Allen. Aqua introduced us to Arthur Curry. Cyborg introduced us to Victor Stone.

Labyrinth didn’t really introduce us to the Martian Manhunter. Neither did Static.

[Lexgirl33]

What are his powers by the way?

[myankskent]

I was impressed with the MM this episode. Great stuff. I need more episodes with him in it.

[HowardFilms]

Originally posted by ForzaItalia
Run introduced us to Bart Allen. Aqua introduced us to Arthur Curry. Cyborg introduced us to Victor Stone.

Labyrinth didn’t really introduce us to the Martian Manhunter. Neither did Static.

Forgettign Green Arrow? It took awhile to develop him.

[Jaded Wolf]

They must be saving Martian Manhunter for a later episode to wrap up the Phantom Zone criminals because this teasing here and there of him is driving me nuts. I want to see his martian form dangit!!!

[BigSexySuperMan]

Originally posted by Lexgirl33
What are his powers by the way?

MMH Powers are very similar to that of Superman's with the addition of mind reading, he can make himself transparent and walk through walls and such. Invisbility and shape shifter.

His only real known weakness is he is scared of Fire.

[Superman's Princess]

I thought the Martian Manhunter was really interesting. I'm looking foward to seeing more of him.

[BigSexySuperMan]

Originally posted by HowardFilms
Forgettign Green Arrow? It took awhile to develop him.

Exaclty, if you didn't know who Oliver Queen was you would have gotten the impression that he was another evil person like Lex by they way they started him out this season.

[darkraya]

he is a nice addition to the show but he needs more screen time.

[BigSexySuperMan]

They are slowly building him up to make you want to tune in again and again. This is not a once or two time thing like Cyborg, Impulse and Aquabro. They are going to do with him similar to what they did with Green Arrow and slowly build his character up with it climaxing at the end of the season I believe.

[coasterprincess]

I'm neutral....I think I'm going to like it...but only if they start putting him in for more than 20 seconds. If they keep this up...I won't get all that excited about it.

[maxd]

LOL at being scared of fire

[Coyote]

He could be a great character if they used him more, probably the best super guest so far.

[God-Man]

The little we got to see of him was great. I like the idea of J'onn being a guardian angel of sorts to clark. I also loved how they referenced his weakness to fire.

[Lexgirl33]

Originally posted by BigSexySuperMan
MMH Powers are very similar to that of Superman's with the addition of mind reading, he can make himself transparent and walk through walls and such. Invisbility and shape shifter.

His only real known weakness is he is scared of Fire.

Thank you very much! :D I knew something was up when he was afraid of the fire

[Raith]

Originally posted by BigSexySuperMan
MMH Powers are very similar to that of Superman's with the addition of mind reading, he can make himself transparent and walk through walls and such. Invisbility and shape shifter.

His only real known weakness is he is scared of Fire.

Add-on to his weakness: oreos and milk.

[omegadirective]

He is the coolest comic book hero to guest star because unlike someone else, he actually flies on screen.

How does he get the red flight trail despite wearing dark, black clothes?

[Coyote]

I think the red trail may be from an energy field that propels him.

[Dalghryn]

You know, why do so many polls just hit the extremes? It goes from, "He's supercalafragilisticexpialadoscious!!!" to "He's sucktastic!" Ok, this one has a "I'll reserve judgement," but how about an, "I like him, but he's not the best," or "He's really cool, but not as cool as Olly," or something like that? Pick one of those if you want my vote, 'cause none of the poll answers work for me.

[griffyn612]

Can you believe I didn't realize he was MM until the zippo scene?

I completely avoided all spoilers, I knew there was an episode with him in it but I didn't know it was this one.

I was thinking, when he said he was from Mars, 'how lame, next he'll be Napolean'.

But then with the fire, I was like WHOA! I KNOW WHO THAT IS!

Totally likin' the character so far. Didn't have any stupid cheesy lines, acted like an adult, and wasn't gonna stick around to let Chloe know about HIS identity too.

Besides, aside from Clark, we haven't seen any other 'Big Guns'.

MM is a BIG GUN. Can't wait for more.

[blackout22]

So is this the last episode that we see th man hunter? and is that the end of the phantoms?

[BrianD]

did anyone notice that when MM flew away at the end he was invisible, even tho u could see the red energy field around him, i taped it and rewinded and he actually was invisible. pretty cool!

[cloisinmyheart]

he seems like a great guy so far

[kidkarmina]

i like MM. i hope he does comes back to do more episodes. and the actor who plays him.....totally cool.

[InLove_with_Chloe]

I expected more. He was a little disappointing, IMO...

[Kalel33076]

Just a little disappointing? Come on it was very disappointing. He was on the show for a total of 2 minutes. Give me a break. I had such high expectations for this episode because I think MM is one of the best comic book heroes out there, but he wasn't really in the episode.

[defga]

as long as they bring him back for a cool and more in depth episode, I'm ok with what they did in Labyrinth. Otherwise he was under-used.

[InLove_with_Chloe]

Originally posted by Kalel33076
Just a little disappointing? Come on it was very disappointing. He was on the show for a total of 2 minutes. Give me a break. I had such high expectations for this episode because I think MM is one of the best comic book heroes out there, but he wasn't really in the episode.
Yeah, I tried to be polite, I guess.
Clana was a much bigger disappointment, IMO...

[j-kent]

Originally posted by Rafael122
How does Martian know he's Kal-El?

Martian Manhunter is a high-level telepathic, and can read any mind and know about anyone. I am sure he "watches from above" as well. Who knows maybe SV has connected MM's race with the Kryptonians somehow!

[milton fine]

martian manhunter was awsome in this episode

[thedean123]

Originally posted by defga
as long as they bring him back for a cool and more in depth episode, I'm ok with what they did in Labyrinth. Otherwise he was under-used.

I think they'll definatly bring him back, Clark wasn't even explained who this guy was. If you weren't already a fan of the DC universe you would have no idea who this guy even is.

[darkkrypton81]

Will see him with green skin soon?

[ginnyfan]

MM was AWESOME!!!

[griffyn612]

Originally posted by darkkrypton81
Will see him with green skin soon?

that'd be cool, if for season end he helps clark hunt down a few more Phantoms, and MM finds himself on the ropes and reverts to green skin on accident.

yeah, right. they don't have it in the budget for that much green make-up.

[vikingjedi]

He was pretty cool. Definitely want to see more of his character. He'll probably freak Clark out when he shows him his true form

[Bat_Lantern]

I liked how the fire was still a threat though they were in Clark's mind. Depending on time period/author the Martian Manhunter had a Psychic and Physical aversion towards fire. I have a reprint of the first MM comic and I love seeing these characters used in television.
Early on he was always in human form in public, he joined the police force as a detective and chose the generic name of John Jones to fit in on earth.
There have been so many retellings/backstory changes over the years you can really take your pick but some have the Martian culture wiped out by fire thus leaving a psychic scar on this high-mentally advanced race.. other retellings have a complicated story with Oa and fire being part of their ancient reproduction.. (I think wiki went with that one..)
either way MM is an interesting character that has been a fun tease so far and I like how they have taught the audience about what makes him who he is..
Addiction for Oreos (or chocos)
Aversion to Fire (mental and physical)
Similar strength and "beam" vision as Supes.. (which makes the fire aversion a bit funny in my book)
From Mars
Great Mental Powers
Invisibility
Can take the shape of a Human

can't wait to see if we get a glimpse of
his "private" green self.. or some other shape shifting abilities.

All in all, I like when Smallville leaves me wanting more.. and I think getting our first real look at a Mind Reading Super Hero while inside Clark's head was a smart play by those in power.

I vote for more Mar-Mar (as my nephew calls him)

:p

[Shadow116]

MM was so awesome I can't wait to see more of him :).

And I want him to use his shapeshifting...oh well :lol: at least I got a taste of the others last night. Mindreadin,invisibility,etc. :lol:
And ah yes fire and oreos are his weakness :lol:.

Anyway yeah J'onn rocks.

[Farview]

It seems they're doing a good job with introducing the Martian Manhunter. I thought it was fabulous casting Phil Morris in that role. The Manhunter is a more experienced character and hopefully they can have him do some mentoring of Clark.

[dr feelgood]

why isnt he green ? i know he can shapeshift but when his eyes turned green and he ran away he was all in skinny black guy form.

[shadow4486]

Thought MM was a great addition to this episode. I wanted to have more of him but I'm sure we will get the full explanation in due time. If Chloe hadn't shown up, I'm sure MM would have told Clark who he was.

A couple of Questions though:

Why did MM adhere to the rules of Clark's fantasy world? Was it just to fit in so he wouldn't be discovered?

If MM put the Phantom into some martian device, why does he need Clark?

I love Phil Morris as MM. he brings such maturity and knowledge to the character and the series as a whole. Most of the people are just fumbling around trying to figure out what is happening around them. MM knows and Phil (in his limited action) portrayed that very well. Good job with the casting!

[BigSexySuperMan]

Originally posted by Kalel33076
Just a little disappointing? Come on it was very disappointing. He was on the show for a total of 2 minutes. Give me a break. I had such high expectations for this episode because I think MM is one of the best comic book heroes out there, but he wasn't really in the episode.

Please. Do you expect them to just give you his life story in one episode? Hell that would take 2 episodes at least to cover his true origins. Take it for what you can get and enjoy the build up.

I swear some people are so impatient.

Patience is a virtue. Gain it!


Originally posted by dr feelgood
why isnt he green ? i know he can shapeshift but when his eyes turned green and he ran away he was all in skinny black guy form.

They are probably not ready to turn him into his true martian form. Even though what we see of him most of the time when he is green is not even his true martian form.

[eas]

He was the best part of the episode for the 5 minutes he was in it. I wish they'd explored his character more instead of focusing on Clana.

Can't wait to have him back on the show.

[chlarkfan333]

Looks like MM got shafted for lo and behold.....Lana! Dear god, will the Lana-love never end?! Anyway, I still think MM is the coolest comic book character thus far and I hope we get to see a lot more of him soon.

[Bat_Lantern]

Think back to the build up of Prof. Milton Fine's character.. that was slow, calculated and brilliant. If MM was to be just a one episode wonder then ya.. they should have showed more.. but I believe they are doing something more similar to their Brainiac intro of last season.. and I trust it will be excellent.

As far as the device goes.. it looked to me like Clark had to push the phantom out and do his part so MM could use the device to suck him out the rest of the way.. and it looked like he was doing his best to break into the dream world but the only way to do it was by following the rules established by the dream phantom.. really fun idea IMO. If you didn't know who MM was, your first thought may be that he is another crazy guy making up alien stories in a psych ward.

Good times.

[dr feelgood]

[i]Originally posted by BigSexySuperMan
They are probably not ready to turn him into his true martian form. Even though what we see of him most of the time when he is green is not even his true martian form. [/B]

yep thats right. his true martian form has a "triangle head" :) and also very skinny...

[UDStyle]

It was good! This was the best way to introduce him since so many comic book and even DCAU storylines have Martian Manhunter saving the JLA from a mind prison. One of the most anticipated episodes yet.

First the Justice League then MM.. Smallville is on a guest appearance roll

[smallvillefreak24]

I really don't understand his whole being from mars and powers thing .I think i just need a little more explanation. But I liked him

[DayOfTheDead]

There was less MM than I would have liked to have seen and while I get that it's going to cost money they budget doesn't seem to be able to handle right now, I really would like to see him in his green form later.

But this was a good start. PM is a good enough actor that if given some good material, he should be able to do well with it. I hope they bring MM back for more than just one episode for this season and definitely bring him back for the next.

Clark needs a good friend and perhaps mentor and I think MM would do well in that role.

So as an introduction for more later, I liked it.

[Raging Clue]

Originally posted by DayOfTheDead
Clark needs a good friend and perhaps mentor and I think MM would do well in that role.
I would love to see MM teach Clark how to fly.

[Who]

I say more Martian Manhunter. Phil Morris does an excellent job of portraying him.

[PKII]

Originally posted by chlarkfan333
Alright! Discuss the MM here all you want. :D He seems cool so far. I can't wait till Clark and him chat a bit more. :)

[vuec]

I've always liked MM. Unlike everyone else Clark has met so far, MM is already grown up and a vet of the crime fighting scene. Since the JL has gone to blow up Lex's facilities, it seems that MM will be the person helping Clark get all the Zoners. Clark is obviously no where near his potential but I hope MM will help him realize it.

[andyolinyk]

i just rewatched the ending again and i got a "ghost buster feeling to it" and i started singing to myself "theres something wrong with the neighbor hood and it dont look good, who you gonna call ? Maritian Manhunter! lol

[GottaLoveHotSuperHeros]

I definately think there will be a 7th season to Smallville now that they've introduced a new character so late in this season. happyness =]]]

[Raging Clue]

They plan on a Season 7 whether or not MM is on it or not.

[andyolinyk]

to be honest i hope i really hope that they make it go 10 seasons id be happy with please and thank you let it go ten seasons ^-^ i love this show its so easy to fall in love with

[Raging Clue]

Alot of people feel the same way. Tptb said that they have enough storylines and plot ideas to do atleast seven seasons. I hope there will be more than seven too.

[STFanatic]

I hope for it to go to the seven, then start "Justice League".

But that is just me.

[Raging Clue]

Originally posted by STFanatic
I hope for it to go to the seven, then start "Justice League".

But that is just me.
That would be fine. But I don't want it to go seven and then have nothing.

[GottaLoveHotSuperHeros]

Originally posted by Raging Clue
Alot of people feel the same way. Tptb said that they have enough storylines and plot ideas to do atleast seven seasons. I hope there will be more than seven too.


ummm... probably not. I saw videos somewhere and KK said that her and AM's contracts were 7 season. and the reporter asked if that's all she would do, and she said, "after seven, I'm done."

[Raging Clue]

Originally posted by GottaLoveHotSuperHeros
ummm... probably not. I saw videos somewhere and KK said that her and AM's contracts were 7 season. and the reporter asked if that's all she would do, and she said, "after seven, I'm done."
Honestly, the show would survive without her. She's only dragging it down right now IMO. She's ready to do movies. KK has established herself as an actress and wants to make more money. That's good for her. All I said was that tptb can make atleast 7 seasons. All it takes is an imagination to make an episode. That isn't the hard part. It's all the contracts and stuff that makes it harder.

[Raith]

Originally posted by Raging Clue
Honestly, the show would survive without her. She's only dragging it down right now IMO. She's ready to do movies. KK has established herself as an actress and wants to make more money. That's good for her. All I said was that tptb can make atleast 7 seasons. All it takes is an imagination to make an episode. That isn't the hard part. It's all the contracts and stuff that makes it harder.

Agreed, with Clark in DP, Lana is useless.

[Lasso69]

They have to get rid of her anyways.Maybe she'll die and Lex finds that the trail leads to Clark (has a funny way of doing that)
That could be what drives criminally insane.

...Or one day he could just decide to take over the world.Enters my thoughts all the time.

Ahhhhh...those would be the days;ruling with an iron fist...

also what happened to MM?*lol*

[Joelito]

I'll reserve judgement for now, let's see in the future, although...I think the actor played well... :)

[777Flash]

I think that Clark needing MM to deeat 2 of the Zoners is weak. If it were not for MM, Clark and the world would be toast. If the show is about SM, then SM should have a hand in defeating the villians. And why didn't Clark assume he was a zoner at their first meeting? Weak. These writers need to step back and look at the whole picture.

And what's the deal with MM's crystal? How does he have one that sends zoners back to the zone?

[Raging Clue]

Originally posted by 777Flash
And what's the deal with MM's crystal? How does he have one that sends zoners back to the zone?
We don't know yet. We'll have to keep watching to find out. This is one of those scams that they do. They build off each episode to keep you watching. If they didn't it would be a movie...

[Odysseus]

I'm really intrigued by the unfolding plot with him. I like how they're starting out by giving us little tidbits of MM, and I'm sure we'll see a lot more of him later in the season.

[Mr. Wrong]

I thought Aquabro was an excellent addition. He is more like the comic book character than cleptoflash! MM appears to be superior to CK which is very disconcerting. Am I the only one who is tired of Superman being less than super?

[skywalker28]

I think MM is superior to Clark right now because he's more accustomed to his powers due to being older than Clark. I'm looking forward to seeing him in some more episodes.

[Kryptonian-Ronin]

Originally posted by Mr. Wrong
I thought Aquabro was an excellent addition. He is more like the comic book character than cleptoflash! MM appears to be superior to CK which is very disconcerting. Am I the only one who is tired of Superman being less than super?

He's not Superman yet, heck he isn;t even Clark Kent, he is jelly-fish boy.
No spine and gooey to the touch.