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chlo-el
01-26-2007, 03:47 PM
Originally posted by firefly01
I thought the Chlark was nice. What did Clark say at the end? "You mean a lot more to me than you know?" Or did I get that wrong? Cause Lex said that to Lana at the end of Commencement. Weird.
I noticed that too Clark did say, "You mean more to me then you know." Just like Lex said to Lana in commencement. And when Lex was saying it it was his way of telling Lana that he loves her.
And I think the same thing goes with Clark. He does say that he still loves Lana but this was his way of telling Chloe that he did love her too or care so much about her. And inthe scene after this with Lana I totally got Clark trying to give himself closure and really move on.
I think this was nicely done. And they really have to show that Clark really has to get over Lana completely before he moves on to Chloe.
He also mentions how mad at himself he was for almost choosing to be with Lana over the people he cares about. And I think he was talking about Chloe in this instant too. Because if he accepted that reality as real just to stay with Lana then Chloe was dead. I think he was really mad at himself for even considering it. Because Chloe means so much to him.
And I get the feeling that he reallly wants to get over Lana completely so he can move on to Chloe.
:)
kkjdt
01-26-2007, 04:17 PM
Originally posted by chlo-el
I noticed that too Clark did say, "You mean more to me then you know." Just like Lex said to Lana in commencement. And when Lex was saying it it was his way of telling Lana that he loves her.
And I think the same thing goes with Clark. He does say that he still loves Lana but this was his way of telling Chloe that he did love her too or care so much about her. And inthe scene after this with Lana I totally got Clark trying to give himself closure and really move on.
I think this was nicely done. And they really have to show that Clark really has to get over Lana completely before he moves on to Chloe.
He also mentions how mad at himself he was for almost choosing to be with Lana over the people he cares about. And I think he was talking about Chloe in this instant too. Because if he accepted that reality as real just to stay with Lana then Chloe was dead. I think he was really mad at himself for even considering it. Because Chloe means so much to him.
And I get the feeling that he reallly wants to get over Lana completely so he can move on to Chloe.
:)
you know I have been thinking the same things
wb-superman
01-26-2007, 04:33 PM
I agree w/ u.
GabbieW
01-26-2007, 06:10 PM
Originally posted by chlo-el
I noticed that too Clark did say, "You mean more to me then you know." Just like Lex said to Lana in commencement. And when Lex was saying it it was his way of telling Lana that he loves her.
And I think the same thing goes with Clark. He does say that he still loves Lana but this was his way of telling Chloe that he did love her too or care so much about her. And inthe scene after this with Lana I totally got Clark trying to give himself closure and really move on.
I think this was nicely done. And they really have to show that Clark really has to get over Lana completely before he moves on to Chloe.
He also mentions how mad at himself he was for almost choosing to be with Lana over the people he cares about. And I think he was talking about Chloe in this instant too. Because if he accepted that reality as real just to stay with Lana then Chloe
was dead. I think he was really mad at himself for even considering it. Because Chloe means so much to him.
And I get the feeling that he reallly wants to get over Lana completely so he can move on to Chloe.
:)
All that clana stuff really made me get angry but then reevaluating everything that happen on the epi i realized that although Clark still loves Lana he's not in love w/her anymore and he really wants to move on bc at some point he realized Lana is holding him back from his destiny (well at least that's what i noticed) and as you said get over Lana and move to Chloe bc he knows she's the best for him. ;)
kkjdt
01-26-2007, 07:06 PM
Originally posted by GabbieW
All that clana stuff really made me get angry but then reevaluating everything that happen on the epi i realized that although Clark still loves Lana he's not in love w/her anymore and he really wants to move on bc at some point he realized Lana is holding him back from his destiny (well at least that's what i noticed) and as you said get over Lana and move to Chloe bc he knows she's the best for him. ;)
At least you hope that is what he is thinking..you hope he is starting to realize he loves her...I was hoping for a little more on that note.... but instead he realizes he still loves Lana... I just wonder if chloe wouldn't of been killed if he still would of chose Lana..... and I wonder when clark is going to finally let go of Lana..... he needs to at some point even if he doesn't go out with Chloe.....:\
AndiGirl
01-26-2007, 07:46 PM
Originally posted by Atomic girl
Wow after reading all your comments, I just had to add my two cents worth. I think I looked at things from Chloe's perspective in that last conversation by the fire. I think she lost a little heart, and she couldn't read Clark. When he said he cared about her more than she knew, I kept thinking, Chloe was thinking like a sister, not like a gf. I think Clark was hinting at gf, but Chloe didn't see it that way, but did believe they have a special relationship.
Clark being Clark would not attempt to break up her and Jimmy, even if he's not happy about the situation, and I'm not sure that Chloe sees that in Clark, she sees Clark indifferent to a romantic relationship.
I think Chloe did see Clark was hinting at more then friends...and thats why she didn't say anything. The poor girl has been crushed so many times by stupid Clark she's not going to just fall into him arms when he says a few nice words to her. And in my opinion...Go Chloe! haha. Clark is going to really have to work to get Chloe...and rightly so. I think Clark wanted to kiss Chloe and there is noooooo way she would have let that happen. Everyone keeps saying stupid Clark should have kissed her...but I think he knew that would have only gotten him a slap in the face! :rotfl:
I do kind of have to agree that Clark doesn't really deserve Chloe....but he's going to, and I love that! People keep saying how dumb Clark is in relationships...and how he's always going to love Lana more. Don't you think Chloe knows that better then anyone? Clark is going to have to make a lot of changes to get Chloe. I kind of think a kiss during the fireplace scene would have wrecked it. It was very sweet how Clark was kind of putting himself out there for once, come on people...it's a start! Don't lose faith in the Chlarki goodness! :)
Welling21
01-26-2007, 09:35 PM
all good comments...
i loved it when she came running up and he took her in his arms, and she was confused. it was very sweet and my favorite part of the episode tied with the fireplace chat. it was very sweet. i'm glad to see Clark finally saying things like that to Chloe, about how much she means to him. Very nice.
InLove_with_Chloe
01-26-2007, 10:08 PM
Originally posted by Welling21
all good comments...
i loved it when she came running up and he took her in his arms, and she was confused. it was very sweet and my favorite part of the episode tied with the fireplace chat. it was very sweet. i'm glad to see Clark finally saying things like that to Chloe, about how much she means to him. Very nice.
Yeah, but the 'L'-word is still missing. And he keeps on using it with Lana...
:mad:
Krypto/DQ/
01-26-2007, 10:13 PM
Originally posted by InLove_with_Chloe
Yeah, but the 'L'-word is still missing. And he keeps on using it with Lana...
:mad:
Or a kiss...at least a kiss on the cheek of Chloe would have been so perfect in that scene...SO FREAKING PERFECT...Or even Clark trying o kiss her and get stop cause she has a boyfriend and get all confused...
Still a cute scene...but could have been a lot better.
Lara_of_Krypton99
01-27-2007, 01:08 AM
I just have to say, we Chlark fans are total masochistics. We keep hoping and hoping... only to be crushed by the silly Clana. But does that stop us? Nope, I'll keep hoping. *grumble*
Safe to say, I was disappointed because my hopes were too high. Although the hug and the fireplace talk was cute, but there should've been -more-. I'll try to be optimistic for next week.
InLove_with_Chloe
01-27-2007, 01:23 AM
Originally posted by Krypto/DQ/
Or a kiss...at least a kiss on the cheek of Chloe would have been so perfect in that scene...SO FREAKING PERFECT...Or even Clark trying o kiss her and get stop cause she has a boyfriend and get all confused...
Still a cute scene...but could have been a lot better.
I totally and absolutely agree.
This scene could have been so much more...
Originally posted by Lara_of_Krypton99
I just have to say, we Chlark fans are total masochistics. We keep hoping and hoping... only to be crushed by the silly Clana. But does that stop us? Nope, I'll keep hoping. *grumble*
Safe to say, I was disappointed because my hopes were too high. Although the hug and the fireplace talk was cute, but there should've been -more-. I'll try to be optimistic for next week.
Welcome!!!!
And of course I agree...
:)
TheoristMaximus
01-27-2007, 08:46 AM
Wow, I see Chlarkers disappointed by a lack of kiss which turned out to be ABSOLUTELY NOTHING IN THE FIRST PLACE!
The whole fireplace thing was WAY more Chlark then I was honestly expecting, even Chloe comments on how awkwardly romantic the scene is by asking if she should be playing barry manilow, in case anyone doesnt know he sings primarily if not solely romantic music.
"You mean more to me then you know."
That to me is a crystal clear statement that he has some feelings for chloe.
You Chlarkers out there who are upset about the lack of a Chlark kiss, you are like diamond miners, who unearth a big piece of gold, and complain because it wasn't the diamond they were hoping for. :D
We got heavy Chlark in this episode... WE DID.
The only thing is we also got Clana. :p
chlarkfan333
01-27-2007, 09:02 AM
I agree and as my post before indicated, the Chlark was awesome! I have been *****ing for so long now that we hardly ever see Clark appreciative of Chloe and Labyrinth just about made up for that. Of course, it's not enough. It would be nice to see Clark continue to be appreciative and interested in Chloe's life instead of using her as a sounding board for his Lana-feelings all the time. :)
D.M.A.
01-27-2007, 10:21 AM
Originally posted by cotton candy girl
It wasn't really Lana, and he realized that, but he also realized he still loved her.
There ya go,looks like that clana hope is back in u.Now if only I can get ILWC and a few others to look deeper into the epi and see its more about choices and clark hasn't clearly made any yet.So there is hope for both sides :\
DayOfTheDead
01-27-2007, 10:22 AM
I definitely saw respect and caring between Chlark, but once again it's all about possible subtext for anything else between them.
As far as what Clark said, he's still loves Lana. He still has never said that he loves Chloe as more than a friend. If Clark does love Chloe, it's still just one of two loves he has, because as he has explictly stated, he loves Lana. So unless that ends, then Chloe is what? second choice? An also ran? That's lame.
Now on the other hand I think it's great for Chlark as friends at least, possibly more later, that in his dreams that Chloe alone trusted him, of course she was literally crazy when she did so. And it's great for Chlark that Clark said that he cared for her more than she knows.
What I don't think is great is that the longing I saw was on Chloe's end to Clark and looked like more of the same old pining. What a step backwards for her, especially as at the moment she has a boyfriend who adores her. But that was just my interpretation of Chloe's looks and smiles. They just reminded me too much of seasons past of Chloe trying to put on a brave face as Clark once again, talks to her about how much he loves Lana.
And as it wasn't stated by Clark in anything other than vague terms, again no declaration of love or romantic overture from him to Chloe (and instead about another woman) anything that Clark may or may not feel for Chloe, remains up for interpretation. It's completely subjective, so people predisposed to Chlark can see Chlark and others not so predisposed to see Chlark, might not.
But as it stands Chlark remains subjective subtext only, as right now the explicit text is Clark still loves Lana. That could change, but right now, I don't see that it did in this episode really changed things or moved them forward for Chlark. They seem pretty status quo to me. Chlark could totally move forward in coming episodes. I'll be interested to see if the show goes there and if so, how.
D.M.A.
01-27-2007, 10:47 AM
Originally posted by Atomic girl
Wow I left the episode feeling like all Chlark was dead. But after reading all the comments and watching the episode again, I have come to some other conclusions.
First of all I always thought Clark was being respectful of Chloe with Jimmy, but now I think he's worried about putting Chloe in danger. The way he told Chloe that she means more to him than she knows, just sort of gave me a vibe of ultimate caring for Chloe, not indifference, or even waiting for her. I took it as I'd do something about these feelings, but I can't I'm Clark.
And something I overlooked in the dream sequence (the first time) was he was willing to give it all up for Lana in a world where he had no power, so no danger to Lana and Chloe had been killed. The temptation in the dream sequence wasn't really like real life, but did point out that he still had feelings for Lana that he tried to bury, just like Chloe has in previous seasons, with her love of Clark.
While TPTB set in motion maybe two love triangles, it will be interesting to see them resolved.
As a side note, I still believe it would be a mistake to have Lana learn the secret and retain that knowledge. Some have said it would put Chloe and Lana on a level playing field, but we saw a taste of that in Reckoning, the field was level for a bit and Clark decided not to go that way again.
Anyway, my two cents worth.
True I agree,his comments to chloe was more so of him tryin to tell her he cares for her equally but can't act on it cause she's wit jimmy sort of or as u say "Cause he's Clark".But the feelings r definitely there and he's tryin not to hide em as much,as for lana knowin its right for her to kno now.Cause tho it puts the girls at equal footin it gives clark a chance to see that lana may not accept his destiny and only want him to be there wit her like in the AU,so she has to kno the secret so he can get a clear readin of how lana views him(Which isn't as a hero).So his choice to move on to chloe or whoever isn't a default decision.But I do think lab was interestin cause we can watch it over and over and comeup wit diff views than the first time.Also lana wont be in danger this time cause lex has lana,before he knew she wouldn't be wit clark unless she knew sumthin now she's wit lex and can be more careful to her knowledge.So havin her stay wit lex and try to protect clark while tryin to get clark to fess up to what she saw,could lead to her pinin for clark for once and him bein able to move on and not pine back.But we'll see tho
Originally posted by Brian Vash Ashby
I never understood the notion that people believe Clark doesnt dig Chloe. It seems to me to be there obviously, if under a mountain of Clana horse crap.
Look at the season 5 ending kiss thing. As the phone rings he stops, looks at the phone, and looks back. Its like part of him clearly wants to stay right there. Plus there is some definite jealous stuff, etc.
I think the main reason he is so reluctant to go there is because Chloe has been a friend. Lana wasnt a friend. Alicia wasnt a friend.
With the Clana breakup he seems to sense a feeling of loss and i think that fear of losing Chloe as a friend is so dreadful an idea that he is somewhat gutless to take the risk. At the beginning of Season 2 he jumped back to that friend thing so quick because he though Chloe meant it, and because it was a safe choice.
This series seems to be all about Clark moving farther and farther away from safe choices and more towards the right choices. Chloe=right choice.
Also i always suspect some other levels of hesitancy because he knows he still cares for that she-witch Lana and doesnt want to burden any other potential relationships with the baggage.
I cant see how thematically they would pass the Chlark up. The narrative flow makes Chlark the only logical choice. Lois is basically background noise right now, and rightly so. I really cant fathom how a professional writer would turn that story down
I agree and glad u pointed out that he was friends wit chloe first before he discovered his feelings so his fear is of losin that friendship.Where as wit lana and alicia as u stated it was an instant attraction before becomin friends,so its not as much to lose like it is wit losin chloe.His fear is jus like his fear of acceptin his destiny tho he can fight it it'll keep comin back and he can only deny it for so long :D
Originally posted by chlo-el
I noticed that too Clark did say, "You mean more to me then you know." Just like Lex said to Lana in commencement. And when Lex was saying it it was his way of telling Lana that he loves her.
And I think the same thing goes with Clark. He does say that he still loves Lana but this was his way of telling Chloe that he did love her too or care so much about her. And inthe scene after this with Lana I totally got Clark trying to give himself closure and really move on.
I think this was nicely done. And they really have to show that Clark really has to get over Lana completely before he moves on to Chloe.
He also mentions how mad at himself he was for almost choosing to be with Lana over the people he cares about. And I think he was talking about Chloe in this instant too. Because if he accepted that reality as real just to stay with Lana then Chloe was dead. I think he was really mad at himself for even considering it. Because Chloe means so much to him.
And I get the feeling that he reallly wants to get over Lana completely so he can move on to Chloe.
:)
I agree this was his way of tellin chloe,I mean its no secret about his past luv for lana or so he felt comfortable admittin that he's confused about still feeling the same.So he jus said he still luvs her,even tho he thought he wouldn't after she got pregnant.But at the same time he luvs chloe 2 but never told her and cant jus let that out jus yet so he played it safe sort of.But he was tryin to say he luvs her jus as much which is a reason his decision is hard,he has choices and right now doesn't kno which is the best(We do but he doesn't).But he wanted her to kno incase she thinks he overlooks her which isn't true :)
Originally posted by AndiGirl
I think Chloe did see Clark was hinting at more then friends...and thats why she didn't say anything. The poor girl has been crushed so many times by stupid Clark she's not going to just fall into him arms when he says a few nice words to her. And in my opinion...Go Chloe! haha. Clark is going to really have to work to get Chloe...and rightly so. I think Clark wanted to kiss Chloe and there is noooooo way she would have let that happen. Everyone keeps saying stupid Clark should have kissed her...but I think he knew that would have only gotten him a slap in the face! :rotfl:
I do kind of have to agree that Clark doesn't really deserve Chloe....but he's going to, and I love that! People keep saying how dumb Clark is in relationships...and how he's always going to love Lana more. Don't you think Chloe knows that better then anyone? Clark is going to have to make a lot of changes to get Chloe. I kind of think a kiss during the fireplace scene would have wrecked it. It was very sweet how Clark was kind of putting himself out there for once, come on people...it's a start! Don't lose faith in the Chlarki goodness! :)
I agree here 2 that she sort of knew clark was hintin at more,he left out sum key moments from the dream so she knows he's been thru alot.That's why sum take her expression as feeling sorry for him while others see it as signs she still luvs him.But I think its alil of both she is his hope as he is hers,she hopes he can move on wit his life beyond lana and accept his destiny yet she also hopes she's apart of that destiny and he glances her way.Yet when he said those words to her she couldn't help but smile she couldn't push the issue of what he meant cause she saw he was confuse but she was happy that he assured her that he plans on havin her in his future(By tellin her she's jus as important).So I agree she sort of knew what he was hintin at but intil he says the words she wont take the chance,she'll wait for him to completely come around and not push him into admittin his feelings,which is what I luv about her.
chlarkfan333
01-27-2007, 10:52 AM
AM/Chloe's expressions during that fireside scene were simply perfect. I love the way she smiles when she's embarassed and tries to change the topic. It's very endearing. The way her face fell when Clark uttered those damning words could be interpreted in different ways. My take on it was - some disappointment mixed with resignation and WTF? In other words, exactly what the rest of us (save the Clanaers) were thinking.
D.M.A.
01-27-2007, 10:55 AM
Originally posted by TheoristMaximus
Wow, I see Chlarkers disappointed by a lack of kiss which turned out to be ABSOLUTELY NOTHING IN THE FIRST PLACE!
The whole fireplace thing was WAY more Chlark then I was honestly expecting, even Chloe comments on how awkwardly romantic the scene is by asking if she should be playing barry manilow, in case anyone doesnt know he sings primarily if not solely romantic music.
"You mean more to me then you know."
That to me is a crystal clear statement that he has some feelings for chloe.
You Chlarkers out there who are upset about the lack of a Chlark kiss, you are like diamond miners, who unearth a big piece of gold, and complain because it wasn't the diamond they were hoping for. :D
We got heavy Chlark in this episode... WE DID.
The only thing is we also got Clana. :p
True I'm suprise wit so many chlarkers havin doubts(And even CCG who's a clana fan)I thought this was a good epi for both ships chlark/clana.Jus as crimson will be for both clana/clois romantically temporary then have redk clark insult/piss off everyone.But ur right there were clear signs clark luvs both he's jus confused right now and tho there was no kiss we atleast kno he has feelings there.Its a start imo :)
Brian Vash Ashby
01-27-2007, 12:00 PM
I felt this episode seemed to be a pretty good Chlark episode. There is clear caring there.
It always seemed to me allll the way back to Season 2's opener that Clark dug Chloe and wanted to explore a relationship. But as Chloe shut him down there he simply accepted the friendship and moved on totally to Lana. ANd by the time Chloe expressed interest again he was already ensnared by her evil.
And love isnt something you can shut off. But i dont think that "i still love lana" line is as big a deal as most are making it out to be. Seems to me its a true feeling, but i dont see any sort of impudence on Clarks part to break this Lex/Lana relationship any more. He was cordial to Lex.
I think this signifies more a moving on from that past more than digging it back up.
And i believe its set up for Lana and Clark perhaps becoming friends of some measure later.
More and more blocks seem to be falling into place for CHlark to happen
Billy Jor-El
01-27-2007, 01:26 PM
The brain synapses in the BDA are finally starting to whirl when it comes to the girl. He DOES have feelings for Chloe (heck, he said that when he took her to the prom, only to ditch her to save Lana).
The only way I want them to not end up together is if she is with ME!! :D
And (I know this is wrong), Lex with no legs seemed a perfect match for Lana with no brain.
CHLARK all the way!!!!
InLove_with_Chloe
01-27-2007, 09:08 PM
Originally posted by Billy Jor-El
And (I know this is wrong), Lex with no legs seemed a perfect match for Lana with no brain.
:lol: bad, bad boy!!!
Originally posted by Billy Jor-El
CHLARK all the way!!!!
:D I agree.
GabbieW
01-28-2007, 12:55 AM
Originally posted by TheoristMaximus
Wow, I see Chlarkers disappointed by a lack of kiss which turned out to be ABSOLUTELY NOTHING IN THE FIRST PLACE!
The whole fireplace thing was WAY more Chlark then I was honestly expecting, even Chloe comments on how awkwardly romantic the scene is by asking if she should be playing barry manilow, in case anyone doesnt know he sings primarily if not solely romantic music.
"You mean more to me then you know."
That to me is a crystal clear statement that he has some feelings for chloe.
You Chlarkers out there who are upset about the lack of a Chlark kiss, you are like diamond miners, who unearth a big piece of gold, and complain because it wasn't the diamond they were hoping for. :D
We got heavy Chlark in this episode... WE DID
The only thing is we also got Clana. :p
i agree w/ you, for me the fireplace scene was like a plus bc to be honest i wasn't expecting a chlark kiss bc i didn't want to be disappointed if there wasn't that's why it was a sweet surprise for me everything that Clark told to Chloe in that scene so for me it was a good start ;) i just expect that my hopes don't go down with all the clana and clois that is gonna happen in crimson:\
Krypto/DQ/
01-28-2007, 06:17 AM
Originally posted by GabbieW
i agree w/ you, for me the fireplace scene was like a plus bc to be honest i wasn't expecting a chlark kiss bc i didn't want to be disappointed if there wasn't that's why it was a sweet surprise for me everything that Clark told to Chloe in that scene so for me it was a good start ;) i just expect that my hopes don't go down with all the clana and clois that is gonna happen in crimson:\
I'm sure a little Chlark is hiding under all the Clana and Clois stuff...
InLove_with_Chloe
01-28-2007, 06:19 AM
Originally posted by Krypto/DQ/
I'm sure a little Chlark is hiding under all the Clana and Clois stuff...
Yeah, all we have to do is dig it up. Week after week...
Krypto/DQ/
01-28-2007, 06:31 AM
Originally posted by InLove_with_Chloe
Yeah, all we have to do is dig it up. Week after week...
Absolutly. :) Crimson may have much Clana and Clois, but the little Chlark that will be there will be very important. Actually, more important than Clana/Clois.
If not, oh well, we'll need D.M.A. to bring our hopes back.
:)
InLove_with_Chloe
01-28-2007, 06:33 AM
Originally posted by Krypto/DQ/
If not, oh well, we'll need D.M.A. to bring our hopes back.
:)
Yeah, that guy is like a rubber wall. No matter how hard you run into it, nothing will happen...
A stoicist seems like a screeming little girl compared to him...
:lol:
Krypto/DQ/
01-28-2007, 06:42 AM
Originally posted by InLove_with_Chloe
Yeah, that guy is like a rubber wall. No matter how hard you run into it, nothing will happen...
A stoicist seems like a screeming little girl compared to him...
:lol: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
AndiGirl
01-28-2007, 08:43 AM
I think the Chlark in Crimson will be pretty significant. We never get to see how Clark feels....so either on Red-K or his normal self he's going to confess to wanting a relationship with her at one point. Which for Clark........is a big step! :)
Krypto/DQ/
01-28-2007, 09:13 AM
Originally posted by AndiGirl
I think the Chlark in Crimson will be pretty significant. We never get to see how Clark feels....so either on Red-K or his normal self he's going to confess to wanting a relationship with her at one point. Which for Clark........is a big step! :)
Thats true. But if he confess that he want a relationship with her while is on RedK, he'll have to talk with Chloe after When is no more on the effect. And she'll ask him if what he said was true or not.(only because of the effect) This is where we'll know what Clark really thinks. It will be a major moment for us Chlarkers.
chlarkfan333
01-28-2007, 09:23 AM
Originally posted by Krypto/DQ/
This is where we'll know what Clark really thinks. It will be a major moment for us Chlarkers.
Now there ya go again, getting your hopes up! Didn't Labyrinth teach you anything?!:lol: :lol:
I figure I'd lead the Chlark pessimism camp, so just doing my job. :D
JonStewart4President
01-28-2007, 12:25 PM
Originally posted by AndiGirl
I think the Chlark in Crimson will be pretty significant. We never get to see how Clark feels....so either on Red-K or his normal self he's going to confess to wanting a relationship with her at one point. Which for Clark........is a big step! :) We hear about how Clark feels a lot. That persistent annoying hum during the show was the high pitched whine that is Clark's Lana love. As to his saying he had feelings for Chloe at one point, how is this a big step? We all saw that back in the latter part of season 1 that he considered it. He was still in love with Lana, of course and gag, but he might have feelings for Chloe...too. So he was going to date her and find out. Of course that all went pear shaped pretty immediately and Chloe said "lets just be friends" at the beginning of season 2 and Clark said immediately 'sure!' so he could go moon over Lana some more. Who he never stopped loving, he was just trying to get over her and exploring if he could like Chloe that way. Turns out he couldn't. And 4 seasons later, he hasn't moved on. Brilliant!
In season 4 in Devoted, Clark outright told Chloe that he didn't feel that way about Chloe. Now could that have changed since then? Sure. But Clarks never actually said anything since then that indicates they have. Just ambigious things like "he cares for her more than she knows." What does that mean? I'm sorry, did I miss the part where that means he loves Chloe? Because all I heard him say was that he loved Lana. Of course I was dry heaving at the time, so maybe I missed his next statement after that.
But Clark did say he had some feelings for Chloe way back when, so I don't see his saying just that is some big revelation.
Now if Clark says he has romantic feelings for Chloe now and is over Lana, now that will be a big step! A very big deal and cause for a great big Chlark party. You guys bring the booze. :D
kkjdt
01-28-2007, 12:36 PM
Originally posted by JonStewart4President
Now if Clark says he has romantic feelings for Chloe now and is over Lana, now that will be a big step! A very big deal and cause for a great big Chlark party. You guys bring the booze. :D
we can dream can't we.......party at my house:D
TheoristMaximus
01-28-2007, 12:37 PM
In Devoted Clark throws in the qualifier, "at least not right now."
:p
And I dont think the "I care about you more then you know" was ambigious.
She knows he considers her his best friend.
She isn't speechless for the rest of the scene because he was reminding her of how good of a friend she was.
She even mentions there should be romantic music playing.
I think this might be the most overt Chlark scene since the 1st season... Which is kinda sad.. but still...
JonStewart4President
01-28-2007, 01:28 PM
Originally posted by kkjdt
we can dream can't we.......party at my house:D Shweet! I'm RSVPing now. :)
Originally posted by TheoristMaximus
In Devoted Clark throws in the qualifier, "at least not right now."
:p Yeah, which is why I said it could change, but fact of the matter is he hasn't indicted that it has since then, has he? Not explictly. He's been with Alicia and back to Lana since then and he has said in the years since then and to Chloe far too many times, how much he loves Lana. He just said it again in this last episode! Boy is a broken record. Or should that be scratched CD by now?
And I dont think the "I care about you more then you know" was ambigious.
She knows he considers her his best friend. Does he say he loves Chloe that way? That he's romantically interested in her? He does not. He gives no indication of what "more" is. And when you consider that he flat out says that he loves Lana, now that is unambigious. Caring "more"? Very ambigious in comparison.
She isn't speechless for the rest of the scene because he was reminding her of how good of a friend she was. I thought she was still overwhelmed by his still, still! saying he loved Lana. I know I was. Not pleasantly overwhelmed, but overwhelmed nonetheless.
She even mentions there should be romantic music playing.
I think this might be the most overt Chlark scene since the 1st season... Which is kinda sad.. but still... The Barry Manilow reference was odd, I frankly didn't get it. Maybe it meant something about how maybe there were romantic feelings there, or maybe not and maybe it can go forward with romantic Chlark, or maybe not. In other words, nothing concrete. Again. But we'll see. Maybe this season will be different than all the other seasons before and all the Lana love Clark is still spouting and Clexana triangle stuff will just disappear in the next few episodes and for the rest of this season and the next. Could happen and I've already got my clothes picked out for that party at kkjdt's house. Can I request no rap? Not so fond of it.
meteor
01-28-2007, 01:56 PM
Originally posted by JonStewart4President
Shweet! I'm RSVPing now. :)
Does he say he loves Chloe that way? That he's romantically interested in her? He does not. He gives no indication of what "more" is. And when you consider that he flat out says that he loves Lana, now that is unambigious. Caring "more"? Very ambigious in comparison.
i just find there is no sexual chemistry between them at all...they are great in their roles as best friends, but personally everytime they try and force some Chlark kiss into the mix i find it embarassing..most notably when Chloe forced herself on him in that elevator scene 2 weeks after he told her he wasn't into her which i think was one of the dumbest scenes ever on the program.
i'd like it if they canned both these romantic storylines (chloe and lana)...they are both old and tired.
InLove_with_Chloe
01-28-2007, 09:56 PM
Originally posted by meteor
..most notably when Chloe forced herself on him in that elevator scene 2 weeks after he told her he wasn't into her which i think was one of the dumbest scenes ever on the program.
Oh, I definitely liked that one...
:D
Be With You
01-28-2007, 10:31 PM
For me the fire place scene was a stroke of pure genius! Chloe always tries to get out of awkward situations with sarcasm so Clark just kind of backs away but not this time. Its Chloe this time. See this is wat I like, Chlark shnugglywub. [SHNUGGLYWUB is an actual term... search on wikipedia =D]
Clark: The important part is... you were the one person who believed in me. I don't know what I'd do without you, Chloe.
Chloe: Oh, is this when I'm supposed to cue the Barry Manilow music?
InLove_with_Chloe
01-28-2007, 11:02 PM
Originally posted by Be With You
Chloe: Oh, is this when I'm supposed to cue the Barry Manilow music?
Why didn't she...?
:D
Krypto/DQ/
01-29-2007, 04:58 AM
Originally posted by InLove_with_Chloe
Why didn't she...?
:D
Cause ya know she has a.......a........*cough* boyfriend.
:(
InLove_with_Chloe
01-29-2007, 05:40 AM
Originally posted by Krypto/DQ/
Cause ya know she has a.......a........*cough* boyfriend.
:(
<slaps his forehead.>
JIMMY!!!
Man, I had totally forgotten about him, seriously...
:lol:
Rhoda123
01-29-2007, 05:45 AM
Originally posted by InLove_with_Chloe
<slaps his forehead.>
JIMMY!!!
Man, I had totally forgotten about him, seriously...
:lol:
Well after Crimson, I think even Chloe will have forgotten him. ha.
InLove_with_Chloe
01-29-2007, 05:49 AM
Originally posted by Rhoda123
Well after Crimson, I think even Chloe will have forgotten him. ha.
Hehehehe...
:D
meteor_phreak
01-29-2007, 05:52 AM
i remember jimmy's insecurity from when he first started coming around. he used to ask what clark had that he didn't...jimmy's a nice guy, and i'm hoping that if clark and chloe do start something, jimmy isn't dragged along for the ride on like another triangle.
Lasso69
01-29-2007, 06:25 AM
Originally posted by meteor_phreak
i remember jimmy's insecurity from when he first started coming around. he used to ask what clark had that he didn't...jimmy's a nice guy, and i'm hoping that if clark and chloe do start something, jimmy isn't dragged along for the ride on like another triangle.
When Jimmy came into the picture we all knew that Chloe's liked Clark since season 1...but I think that Jimmy knew that Chloe wasn't really uhhhh...into(i guess thats the word:\ )
their relationship.
Rhoda123
01-29-2007, 09:46 AM
Originally posted by Lasso69
When Jimmy came into the picture we all knew that Chloe's liked Clark since season 1...but I think that Jimmy knew that Chloe wasn't really uhhhh...into(i guess thats the word:\ )
their relationship.
Well since they are "together", maybe he can read between the lines.. we can see Chloe loves Clark. I guess Jimmy can too.. maybe him saying that Clark is in love with Chloe is just a way to see how Chloe reacts.. I think Jimmy knows.. poor dude!
meteor_phreak
01-29-2007, 10:07 AM
yeah, poor dood...
caradoc
01-29-2007, 11:09 AM
As I recall, Jimmy ends up with Lucy.
AndiGirl
01-29-2007, 07:11 PM
Originally posted by Be With You
For me the fire place scene was a stroke of pure genius! Chloe always tries to get out of awkward situations with sarcasm so Clark just kind of backs away but not this time. Its Chloe this time. See this is wat I like, Chlark shnugglywub. [SHNUGGLYWUB is an actual term... search on wikipedia =D]
Clark: The important part is... you were the one person who believed in me. I don't know what I'd do without you, Chloe.
Chloe: Oh, is this when I'm supposed to cue the Barry Manilow music?
I know, I loved that! Clark usually backs down any time things get a little awkward, Chloe does too sometimes. She just makes sarcastic remarks to take the pressure off, but Clark wouldn't let her this time! He just kept going....it was so cute! It's nice to see Clark kind of step up, even in a little situation like that. :lol:
Welling21
01-29-2007, 10:16 PM
I have been waiting for Clark to say those words to Chloe. "You mean more to me than you know...I don't know what i'd do without you." it was very sweet and sincere. PERFECT.
kal-el_Girl
01-30-2007, 07:36 AM
I hate when guys take that role of "you mean more to me than you'll ever know" or like a "friend" told me recently "I've always consider you to be mine" what the hell does that mean? does he love me? we''re just friends or WHAT? whatever........
but clark I do forgive as for the other guy....
meteor
01-30-2007, 08:34 AM
Originally posted by InLove_with_Chloe
Oh, I definitely liked that one...
:D
hehe..i can undertand that, but seriously..a guy tells you he isn't interested in you, and right after that you kinda throw yourself at him. don't you need find that kinda pathetic?
anyways looking at these spoilers i'm starting to think they aren't gonna regress Chloe's character back to that era. i'm holding out hope by next season for an adult and respectful Chloe-Clark-Lana friendship against crime without all the high school nonsense, although given that this show loves high school nonsense, maybe i'm dreaming.
Originally posted by kal-el_Girl
I hate when guys take that role of "you mean more to me than you'll ever know" or like a "friend" told me recently "I've always consider you to be mine" what the hell does that mean? does he love me? we''re just friends or WHAT? whatever........
but clark I do forgive as for the other guy....
just my opinion from a distance, but if the guy is into you that way you would know it by now. if he's keeping you around thinking you're "his" whenever he thinks it's the right time, imo don't waste your time. you'd probably end up just like Chloe (if you were interested in him)
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