Justice = Chloe survives Smallville

[udtiger]

There has been a great deal of concern expressed about what will be done with Chloe Sullivan (as she is not part of the Superman mythos). Some have speculated that she will assume the moniker of Lois Lane after the SV Loois meets an untimely end. However, I think Justice provides a way in which she survives...Watchtower.

She seemlessly integrated herself into the JL and proved to be very helpful to the team. I suspect this is not a mistake and is a harbinger of her future once SV unwinds. This way, she can leave the DP (creating a job opening for Lois) and all will be right with the DC universe.

[meteor]

Sounds good to me.

[Superboy2]

I don't think she'll become the Oracle. My guess is she may die for Clark or something heroic.

[jimmyolsenblues]

This show is a tragedy, I don't have a warm fuzzy feeling for chloe in the series finale.
But I really hope I am wrong.

[Rhoda123]

Originally posted by jimmyolsenblues
This show is a tragedy, I don't have a warm fuzzy feeling for chloe in the series finale.
But I really hope I am wrong.

I hope you're wrong too.. it would be a waste (IMO) to have created such an amazing character only to have her die in the end.. doesn't make sense but then again, who ever said TPTB knew anything about making sense. :)

[udtiger]

I don't know, but some of the arrows seem to be pointing in that direction. Clark has had enough tragedy in his life thusfar, plus, if they spin off a JL series, it would be a perfect place to put AM.

[meteor]

if that whole rumour about DC comics buying her character for the comics is true, then i guarantee you she won't die. if not, then yes it's definitely a possibilty.

[Super Maverick]

Originally posted by meteor
if that whole rumour about DC comics buying her character for the comics is true, then i guarantee you she won't die. if not, then yes it's definitely a possibilty.

how long has that rumor been going around?

[meteor]

a while i think..seems to me i read it on Wikipedia though i may be mistaken, and i think i even heard Allison Mack herself mention it.

anyways, if it's true, i strongly doubt DC would purchase the rights to a character then have the show that spawned her kill her off.

if not, then obviously all bets are off, and given the mythos she could definitely get rubbed out, although hopefully not.

[ox007]

I also like Chloe but. Yes there is always that but button:) she is not in the mythos. And she wouldn't fit in the future of lois and Clark. Clark's best friend and soulmate of the future is Lois. Sorry but I couldn't imagine Chloe in it - and with Jimmy! But I hope they won't kill her just send her to the phantom zone;) just kidding - but to Alaska or something:)

[Liriel]

The DP is her life-long (or pretty close) dream. Why would she leave it? It's what she loves. Why would any fans of hers want to see her abandon her dreams?

And don't give me the "dreams change" thing - not after this long with this much devotion. It'd be a cop-out.

[Rhoda123]

Originally posted by ox007
I also like Chloe but. Yes there is always that but button:) she is not in the mythos. And she wouldn't fit in the future of lois and Clark. Clark's best friend and soulmate of the future is Lois. Sorry but I couldn't imagine Chloe in it - and with Jimmy! But I hope they won't kill her just send her to the phantom zone;) just kidding - but to Alaska or something:)

Why should she not be allowed to be introduced into the Superman myth.. she is an incredible character and at this point on the show, she is a driving force behind what makes Clark a "super hero".. his powers can only take him so far.. as for Lois being his soul mate.. blah blah blah.. we know this.. BUT we also know that Chloe is more Lois than the Lois of Smallville is at this point..


Originally posted by Liriel
The DP is her life-long (or pretty close) dream. Why would she leave it? It's what she loves. Why would any fans of hers want to see her abandon her dreams?

And don't give me the "dreams change" thing - not after this long with this much devotion. It'd be a cop-out.

Chloes whole life has been the Daily Planet.. that should not change just because TPTB jumped the shark and brought Lois on a show that didn't need her..

[darkraya]

i hope that shes not gonna die. chloe is one of my favorite characters

[griffyn612]

i know how these writers work. here's how it'll happen:

Chloe will sacrifice her life to help save the world. But all of her personality and memories will be saved in a computer, and she will appear in the Watchtower as a hologram with a super-computer brain.

and then she'll go bad in the comics, just like Pete.

and then she'll be redeemed in the comics, just like Pete.

and then she'll get a robot body ala Metallo.

and then she'll become 'The Amazing Sullivan', heroine extrodinaire.

and then she'll be destroyed.

and then redisovered.

only to go bad again.

and then be redeemed.

and then get written out in 20 years when they recon the entire thing all over again.

[Rhoda123]

Originally posted by griffyn612
i know how these writers work. here's how it'll happen:

Chloe will sacrifice her life to help save the world. But all of her personality and memories will be saved in a computer, and she will appear in the Watchtower as a hologram with a super-computer brain.

and then she'll go bad in the comics, just like Pete.

and then she'll be redeemed in the comics, just like Pete.

and then she'll get a robot body ala Metallo.

and then she'll become 'The Amazing Sullivan', heroine extrodinaire.

and then she'll be destroyed.

and then redisovered.

only to go bad again.

and then be redeemed.

and then get written out in 20 years when they recon the entire thing all over again.


Brain overload!!!!!!!!! GAH!

[meteor_phreak]

she doesn't have to die, and even in the comics there are ways around her abandoning a life long dream...she could be an on-location reporter doing some really important story that keeps her overseas forever...or transfer out of the metropolis branch to a branch in another city covering a different superhero. all it would take is some small line to lois about 'leaving clark in good hands' or something, and an occasional pop-up in DC comics universe about some by-line in another Planet owned newspaper...

not that difficult. I really hope she doesn't die. there is no reason for it...

[Super Maverick]

well they tried to kill her once... but i knew she wasn't dead :]

[UnderDog]

Chloe won't die. In the course of her investigative reporting, she will do an expose' on a Metropolis crime boss, and end up testifying against him in the trial that puts him away. Then she'll enter the witness protection program and she'll move to another city taking up the new name "Dinah Lance". Eventually, she'll become Black Canary and fall in love with Ollie.

Just my guess....

[xrayvision]

All I know is that TPTB have said this show will end badly. I never understood why they said that. I would think the appearance of Superman would be a good thing. The thing with Chloe is that I don't see there being 2 reporters.

It's kind of like this:

If Lionel has to die for Lex to become the sole MB, then Chloe has to die (or perhaps go insane with that disease she's supposedly destined to get) for Lois to become the sole & greatest female reporter.

Another reason I think something will happen to her is that she knows too much and too many secrets. We have seen with so many other characters what happens when they learn just Clark's secret, but she knows far more secrets than just Clark's. My guess is she will die in retaliation for an expose she will write about Lex's involvement in 33.1 or as a preventive measure to stop her from writing one. I'm guessing the latter would be true and as a result of this, Clark will finish up the expose and will get into journalism because of the importance of exposing the truth behind stuff like 33.1.

[GottaLoveHotSuperHeros]

all this talk about the end is making me sad.... :( this is the last season of Smallville or next season is the last, KK, MR, and TW have said it.

I agree with the first post, I think that Watchtower would help Chloe to survive in the show.

and I have to say, people need stop trying to figure out how Chloe's going to get killed off... just wait and see if they even kill her.

[krpto]

Originally posted by Liriel
The DP is her life-long (or pretty close) dream. Why would she leave it? It's what she loves. Why would any fans of hers want to see her abandon her dreams?

And don't give me the "dreams change" thing - not after this long with this much devotion. It'd be a cop-out.

Dreams to change and I think chloes may because of clark she decides she likes investigating more then writing and gives up journalism to either study criminalogy or become a full time member of the jl international helping the team in the watchtower.

[thedarknight]

Originally posted by xrayvision
All I know is that TPTB have said this show will end badly. I never understood why they said that. I would think the appearance of Superman would be a good thing. The thing with Chloe is that I don't see there being 2 reporters.

It's kind of like this:

If Lionel has to die for Lex to become the sole MB, then Chloe has to die (or perhaps go insane with that disease she's supposedly destined to get) for Lois to become the sole & greatest female reporter.

Another reason I think something will happen to her is that she knows too much and too many secrets. We have seen with so many other characters what happens when they learn just Clark's secret, but she knows far more secrets than just Clark's. My guess is she will die in retaliation for an expose she will write about Lex's involvement in 33.1 or as a preventive measure to stop her from writing one. I'm guessing the latter would be true and as a result of this, Clark will finish up the expose and will get into journalism because of the importance of exposing the truth behind stuff like 33.1.


Although I would never kill off Chloe, Clark turning to journalism after her death seems very plausible. I don't know where they can place such a talented character after the show ends. Chloe is too good to just move to another city, it wouldnt make sense.

[xrayvision]

^^Yes. But not have Clark get into journalism for guilt or sadness over Chloe's death/insanity/etc (nobody who forces themself into a field they're not interested in because of what someone else wants is or stays happy with that career). Instead have him realize the importance of what Chloe was doing as he is finishing it up for her and want to do it for that reason. They could even show him as enjoying it for once (as long as they start building up to this). That would be very plausible.

[meteor_phreak]

if they kill off chloe, my respect for this series will drop unless they do a very good job of explaining why it was necessary. especially if they wait till the last episode or something.

[xrayvision]

I think Lex killing her would be reason enough. They have to eventually start building him up. I read some posts that said that once he no longer has Lana, nothing will prevent him from doing whatever he wants to those he doesn't like. I definitely believe this will happen and once it does, everyone in his way will be in big trouble. And I don't see Chloe backing down. I think him killing her will be one way of them elevating Lex in evilness over Lionel in that he would do something that Lionel never did--kill Chloe.

[meteor_phreak]

As a general rule, i don't like when characters do stuff for 'out of universe' reasons. If they kill her, they better have an 'in universe' reason.

stuff like "to make lex look evil" "to elevate Lex" or "to get (insert reaction here) from the audience" all suck to me.

Besides, there are plenty of minor characters or lesser major ones that will accomplish the same goal. Lex killing his dad, for example. That would fit better, because lionel is a threat, and i don't see chloe really concerning lex that much, like he's got bigger fish to fry than a small-time reporter at the DP.

[xrayvision]

Small-time reporter? Remember, she was a huge part of the team that brought down Lionel (the 2nd biggest after Clark's testimony). Lex killing her to ensure the same doesn't happen with him makes total sense.

Once a character becomes important on this show, they also become a bigger target. It would be less than credible if Lex doesn't go after Chloe at some time after all she did in Commecement & Arrival (even how she mentioned Clark's name around the altar in the cave when Lex was right behind her). I think there's no way they won't have some kind of war between Lex & Chloe.

[meteor_phreak]

i meant small time in that she just started getting headlines. i think that 'in universe' she isn't as major a player in metropolis as she is in the lives of clark and the others.

for example, tori spelling's character didn't even know who she was. Lex would know to take her seriously, but i don't see her being worth it from an in-universe standpoint. We would all see it as important as it is, but that goes back to talking to the audience directly instead of telling a story and letting reactions fall naturally. i prefer all story elements having an in-universe reason rather than just being plot devices...

[meggy]

hmmmm...i DEFINITELY dont want Chloe to go insane..I dont believe that just because her mom suffered something, that she would get it too...that would be even sadder for me than if she died to protect the secret....

i dont want her to die either..the funny thing is that everyone's reasoning can actually be a possibility:

maybe she wont die
Maybe Lex will kill her due to some story
maybe her death will push Clark more into journalism (we already know he likes it "but don't tell Chloe")
maybe her death will push Lois into more serious journalism
maybe she will be working on a story to really bring down Lex, and when she figures her life is in danger, she will pass the info (copies etc) to Lois to continue her work if anything happens.....
maybe she will just be the Oracle
maybe in a surprise twist, all 3 end up at the planet......

the possibilites are endless....

and THIS my friends, is what keep ppl on their feet season after season (at least ONE of the things)....i remember AM herself said that they dont tell her what's in store for her character, because she tends to tell alot in her interviews...i think they don't tell her because they are still trying to figure it out...with all the possibilities...they are likely as clueless as we are..

[xrayvision]

Originally posted by meteor_phreak
i meant small time in that she just started getting headlines. i think that 'in universe' she isn't as major a player in metropolis as she is in the lives of clark and the others.

for example, tori spelling's character didn't even know who she was. Lex would know to take her seriously, but i don't see her being worth it from an in-universe standpoint. We would all see it as important as it is, but that goes back to talking to the audience directly instead of telling a story and letting reactions fall naturally. i prefer all story elements having an in-universe reason rather than just being plot devices...

I was having trouble understanding what you meant by in-universe but from the context of what you wrote, it seems like it is the opposite of doing something on purpose to build up a character (i.e. a plot device). I think the events of season 3 did occur naturally and had no plot device effect to them. I think the same can be applied to a Lex vs. Chloe storyline, which definitely would come naturally because:

1. There is only 1 reporter who knows anything of 33.1's existence, and that is Chloe

2. Since she knows, she will not sit on this information once she knows the full story behind it, plus facts & evidence are obtained to back up her story (this is her nature as a reporter & friend of Clark)

3. It is also natural that Lex will have feelers out and know that Chloe is getting ready to write an article, much like Dr. Garner knew Chloe would do with Summerholt (Delete) & coerced Molly to try to kill her and much like Lionel Luthor found out about Perry White's expose and shut him down with certain death if he ever published that story.

4. As to whether or not Lex will succeed, we don't know for sure. But I'm guessing that since there can only be 1 MB at the end of the show (Lex), there could be only 1 great reporter (Lois). It's not proof, but a theory that I do think will come true since Chloe is too much like the cannon Lois.

[meteor_phreak]

yeah, you got my point. in-universe is stuff that clark, chloe, lex would know and could do as a character in the story. out of character is either a plot device, or things like an actress being pregnant, or something that we as viewers would know.

i.e. why kill chloe?

in universe(to use your example): because lex thinks she's a threat to his success with 33.1.

out of universe: because DC said there can only be one reporter.

so, yeah, you got what i was saying.

If it played out like you were saying, and the story was well done, i'd still be pissed but not overly so, i could live with it. if it was obviously a 'plot device' the show would lose credibility. i.e. i don't want them to do it simply because the focus groups say a sad ending is more realistic.

And I sorta think that lex is clever enough, in-universe, to get away with stuff like this. even in comics or animation, and movies to some extent, superman shuts lex down regularly but can't prove anything to the point of lex getting arrested. i think that this same type of stuff would make chloe not a significant enough threat to really anger the powers against him, as would surely happen. sorta like how, in the comics, lex has to know what superman would do if lex killed lois.

edit...BTW, this turned into a really good conversation.

[xrayvision]

Thanks. I think the way they killed JK was definitely a plot device. He didn't have to die. He could have lived as in the post Crisis comics. That's why Reckoning was such a crappy episode for me. It wasn't portrayed as the result of the sum of all the stress put on his heart since Exile/Phoenix, but instead as a result of Clark not obeying Jor-El and for a balance in the universe (which I think is rubbish). If there is a balance to the universe, then for every person that Clark saves, there has to be another who dies in their place.

[Spirit Detective]

Originally posted by xrayvision
Thanks. I think the way they killed JK was definitely a plot device. He didn't have to die. He could have lived as in the post Crisis comics. That's why Reckoning was such a crappy episode for me. It wasn't portrayed as the result of the sum of all the stress put on his heart since Exile/Phoenix, but instead as a result of Clark not obeying Jor-El and for a balance in the universe (which I think is rubbish). If there is a balance to the universe, then for every person that Clark saves, there has to be another who dies in their place.

You have to remember that Clark was brought back to life, not rescued from near death. That is unnatural, so your Final Destination theory doesn't apply to his situation.

Reckoning showed how stupid some of the main characters were:

Clark's actions with Lana in 2nd timeline, Lana going to Lex even after she married Clark, Jonathan overeacting to Lionel, etc

[xrayvision]

Yeah you're right that they seemed stupid. I'm not familiar with Final Destination. But based on the episode Hereafter and what Jor-El (in Lionel) said in Hidden, there is a balance, which I took as if death is coming for someone, and that person is pulled away from death's grip thanks to Clark's meddling, it will make up for not killing that individual by killing another one. In Hereafter, by saving coach Altman, Clark almost caused the deaths of Lana, Jordan, and that other girl. Until Coach Altman didn't die anyway in that fire, the others couldn't live. That's how they made it seem.

I don't believe in that though for real life. But this does seem how Smallville has portrayed it when having an episode with a meteor freak who can see people's deaths. In Reckoning, death first came to take Lois. Clark stopped it. It then came to get Lana. It got her until Clark re-lived that day and stopped it from taking Lana. Unfortunately for Clark, he didn't know who it would take next, and that happened to be Jonathan. If Jordan from Hereafter was in that episode & touched Lana in both timelines, he would see Lana dying in the car accident in the 1st timeline and Lana probably dying in old age (as in Hereafter) after Clark knew where he had to be & what had to be done to prevent her death.

You could think of it as the reapers shown in Supernatural. The one in the faith healer episode did the same thing. The people who got healed weren't dead, but their lives were swapped anyway with other people.

[Max001]

Great writing isn't always about having everyone arrive at the destination intact. After what Joss did to Anya in the last episode of Buffy I wouldn't be surprised if poor Chloe kicked the bucket in the last episode of Smallville.

I really hope it dosen't happen, mind you. I love the Chloster.

[Saviour of Earth]

I think she might die i personally want that ending becuase i see it as a good way to wrap up her character and also to serve as inspiration for both clark and Lois.
I could see both Lionel and Chloe dying while Lex sits in his mansion having a drink at the same time.
Another strong possibility is that they use her in a justice league spinnoff and have her as the oracle in the watchtower i really think that part of the episode was intentional and to give her some experience.
Also one poster said why would she give up her dream of working in the daily planet and dont say dreams change not after she has devoted so much of her life to it.
Now i agree i dont think her dream would change but i could see her telling Clark she beleives she should turn away from it and work with the JLA to do some real good and to help them save the world. Sacrificing herself.

[Rhoda123]

Okay, here is a scenario.. I don't have it all worked out in my head yet so I may sound a little "off".. :)

Chloe knows so much that Lex kidnaps her and holds her hostage trying to get her to talk about Clark and his secret..

Chloe being Chloe refuses to tell Lex anything due to her loyalty to Clark..

Clark cannot find Chloe anywhere and finally the police say there is no hope, she is probably dead and her body may never be found..

Clark tries desperately to locate her and starts working at the Daily Planet..

Lex continues to try to break Chloe not wanting to kill her but make her suffer.. plus, it makes him feel superior to Clark that he has Chloe and Clark can't find her..

Lex tries a last ditch effort to make Chloe talk by telling her he will erase all of her memories so she doesn't know who she is if she doesn't talk.. she refuses again and Lex does just that.. Chloe doesn't know who she is and Lex takes her to a city far, far away from Smallville/Metropolis..

---------------------------------------------------

Okay, now for a little twist in the theory to appease my Chlark love that I have.. if you are not a Chlois theory person, now is the time to stop reading.. :)

In the meantime, Lois is working on a story and gets kidnapped by Lex also (he thinks she knows Clark's secret cause she and Clark are now friends).. Lois gets killed.. Lex thinks its funny to have memories given back to Chloe that she may be Lois Lane and with those memories, she goes to Metropolis and gets a job at the Daily Planet under the name Lois Lane.. where Clark sees her and tries to explain that she was once Chloe Sullivan.. she thinks he's an idiot and so the legend of Lois and Clark begins. :)

[Max001]

None of that makes any sense :p

[udtiger]

It just seemed to me that Chloe really was "into" being the "eyes and ears" of the JLA'ers. Considering her desire to help people and "contribute", it is not outside of the realm of possibilty that she could be persuaded to take on this role on a full time basis. If anything, she could be a "precursor" to Oracle.

[Rhoda123]

Originally posted by Max001
None of that makes any sense :p

Well how rude!! :)

I told ya I was really just coming up with it off the top of my head.. ha.. I hadn't thought it through completely but it sounds good to me.. whatever helps Clark and Chloe end up together is what I want.. :)

[nickyjean_1]

I don't think Chloe is going to stay a reporter.. Something linda lake said about her staying a basement reporter because she finds the dirt but doesn't use it..

I don't see chloes dream as being a reporter but uncovering the truth and helping people.. In one way that is being a report but in another it's doing what she did as Watchtower.

I personal think that Chloe is slowly becoming a hero in her own right.. Her willingness to be a sidekick.. rubs me raw.. When she's forced like with Static/Hydro or any eppy where she has to save clarks butt .. She's all over it.. but if Clarks around she doesn't mind and infact reluctant to step up to the hero plate.. but she's getting there.. and even doing her own thing with this 33.1 thing..

Also they play the alternate universe thing all the time.. so why not just rip her out of that world and into the new one.. for any number of reasons.. it's possible..

***Also what I think is going to be the thing that Kills her is Lex.. becasue I believe Lana truly resents not being in the club and she will be more then happy to pour out her pain about the fact that Chloe knows and she doesn't.. Sure Lex probably suspects but Knowing that she's protecting him and its he becomes more desparte I could totally see him using some body to play with her mind and rather then spill her secrets they will be spilling her guts..

[meggy]

nickyjean1, i think i understand your thoughts about Chloe willingly accepting the role of sidekick, even though she is becoming a hero in her own right... i understand it rubs you raw....

but i think the reason they put her in the role of sidekick is that Clark is the hero..not that she isn't a hero in her own right...actually she has been the hero's hero, and has helped CK more times that we can count...the thing with her is that she is a good, solid rock of support for CK (actually, they are that for each other), but they can stand alone very well too. So sometimes Clark does his thing alone, and Chloe can handle her business alone...so when she needs to be, she's the sidekick, and when she needs to be, she can stand alone....i think either one is good for her, because even the greatest heroes need support...

obviously, I dont want her to die, but IF TPTB did make it so, I can surely see Lex having a hand in it...wouldnt put it past him....wouldnt put it past him trying to torture her for info either.....

and Rhoda123...i love your theory :)...but consider this twist where no one has to die.....ohhh, this thought is not originally mine...just a summation of what theories others have posted:

so the DC universe says there's only one reporter...i think all fans (Cloisers and Chlarkers) could be satisfied/happy if this "who is the real Lois" were answered by "there is ONE Lois" where SV Chloe and Lois are actually ONE PERSON...or more specifically, 2 created sides of one person....

at the end of the series, they can do a voice over or something that explains that the ONE Lois had to create two different ppl to protect Supes and her life with him..and Chloe and Lois are two sides of the same coin...so the whole SV story is some reality and some fiction that was created by Lois...some experiences were real, and some were fiction.....now I havent thought this out fully, and this is most likely not supposed to be in this thread..but the point is....

1)the question and all the games about "who does Clark love today" will be gone, because in reality, Clark loves the same person...different sides of the same person...different characteristics of the same person

2) no one has to die, because there really is only one person

3) the question of whether Chloe survives because she's not in the mythos is irrelevant because it is the same person: SVLois=SVChloe and SVChloe=SVLois...

so yeah, this is weird...but it is so predictable to have someone die at the end..if SV REALLY wanted to make their name in mythology, AND have the fans's minds blown away for years, they should do more of a twist than having someone die

[Rhoda123]

Originally posted by meggy
nickyjean1, i think i understand your thoughts about Chloe willingly accepting the role of sidekick, even though she is becoming a hero in her own right... i understand it rubs you raw....

but i think the reason they put her in the role of sidekick is that Clark is the hero..not that she isn't a hero in her own right...actually she has been the hero's hero, and has helped CK more times that we can count...the thing with her is that she is a good, solid rock of support for CK (actually, they are that for each other), but they can stand alone very well too. So sometimes Clark does his thing alone, and Chloe can handle her business alone...so when she needs to be, she's the sidekick, and when she needs to be, she can stand alone....i think either one is good for her, because even the greatest heroes need support...

obviously, I dont want her to die, but IF TPTB did make it so, I can surely see Lex having a hand in it...wouldnt put it past him....wouldnt put it past him trying to torture her for info either.....

and Rhoda123...i love your theory :)...but consider this twist where no one has to die.....ohhh, this thought is not originally mine...just a summation of what theories others have posted:

so the DC universe says there's only one reporter...i think all fans (Cloisers and Chlarkers) could be satisfied/happy if this "who is the real Lois" were answered by "there is ONE Lois" where SV Chloe and Lois are actually ONE PERSON...or more specifically, 2 created sides of one person....

at the end of the series, they can do a voice over or something that explains that the ONE Lois had to create two different ppl to protect Supes and her life with him..and Chloe and Lois are two sides of the same coin...so the whole SV story is some reality and some fiction that was created by Lois...some experiences were real, and some were fiction.....now I havent thought this out fully, and this is most likely not supposed to be in this thread..but the point is....

1)the question and all the games about "who does Clark love today" will be gone, because in reality, Clark loves the same person...different sides of the same person...different characteristics of the same person

2) no one has to die, because there really is only one person

3) the question of whether Chloe survives because she's not in the mythos is irrelevant because it is the same person: SVLois=SVChloe and SVChloe=SVLois...

so yeah, this is weird...but it is so predictable to have someone die at the end..if SV REALLY wanted to make their name in mythology, AND have the fans's minds blown away for years, they should do more of a twist than having someone die

Ya know, I'm digging that theory alot.. :) And this is Smallville where ANYTHING can happen! :)

[meggy]

ohh..another thing..as for the possibility that Chloe does not stay a reporter, and that remark from Linda Lake about her staying in the basement...you know, whether anyone likes or hates Chloe, we should give her some credit for the sacrifices that she has to make...

so many times, she has had her hands on a good story that would definitely move her out the basement, but she can't, because they most likely involve Clark (or JLA) in some way...and she made a promise that she is honored to keep...

now, i'm not bashing Lois in any way (just to let fans know)...but Lois will most likely never have such a decision to make (regarding CK) in her life. If we stick to the SV world, Lois will not have to sacrifice catchy stories to protect CK, and thus, on her journey towards journalism, she never has to make those kind of career sacrifices. And if we move out of SV into mythos, Lois Lane GOT stories from Superman....Superman helped advance her career!...because he already had the double identity thing going on, she really didnt have to sacrifice for CK....

which is why I love CS so much, and on the show, I want things to work out for her...i want her "dreams" in SV to happen...if I dare to reject the Chlois theory and say Chloe is Chloe and Lois is Lois, and this is the "Lois" that Clark marries, then (nothing against erica) it just saddens me that after all her sacrifice, all her support...she gets nada....not the career she wanted, not the man she always supported and loved...nothing...

and THAT's why I dont want to see Clois on SV...nothing against EDLois, but that is too sad to think that in life, sometimes you stand by the sidelines and watch everything you ever wanted go to someone else...especially after everything that you did.....especially to a family memeber who originally didnt want all the things you always wanted. In such a situation, at least she deserves SOMETHING


sorry for my rant..but i needed to express that to the general public :)

[griffyn612]

Originally posted by xrayvision
Thanks. I think the way they killed JK was definitely a plot device. He didn't have to die. He could have lived as in the post Crisis comics. That's why Reckoning was such a crappy episode for me. It wasn't portrayed as the result of the sum of all the stress put on his heart since Exile/Phoenix, but instead as a result of Clark not obeying Jor-El and for a balance in the universe (which I think is rubbish). If there is a balance to the universe, then for every person that Clark saves, there has to be another who dies in their place.

Here's the thing. Johnnie Kent dying wasn't a balance to Lana dying. He didn't HAVE to die because she did. Jor El knew how things had happened, and how they would be affected by the change.

In the first timeline, JK stopped at the accident that occured when Lex chased down Lana. In the second timeline, he didn't have to stop because there was no accident. In the first timeline, had he passed Lana BEFORE the accident, then both would have died. He would have gone on to the barn, and been shocked by Lionel, and his heart would have gone out.

That was one of the few times where a plot made actual sense.

As for Chloe, I think she'll die, but as I said before, they'll come up with some way to retain her character. (at least in the comics, i think they've been dying to use her as they used Lana and Pete)

[InLove_with_Chloe]

It's a possibility, yes.

[poetryfoot]

Boy, grrr...I sure hope that they don't kill Chloe off...I will be so freakin' mad....the ONLY way that I would want to see her killed off is if the TPTB decided (and CHLOE would NEVER do this) to like make her betray Clark on purpose or something..and make her totally unlike the Chloe we love.....then I would rather see her die a noble death than change and do a 180....but tPTB wouldn't do that...Chloe is the coolest!!

I am not really a Chloiser...probably just because I have doubts about it happening, (though I would be happy if it did!)...but I would love to see her be a Watchtower, or be at the DP with Clark and Lois at the end, or be Chlois, and if they NEVER decide to let her have Clark...then I demand/want to see lots of other guys/superheros fighting over her and no more Clark pining!

[Peat Moss]

Chloe is too much like the cannon Lois.
Hmm, the cannon Lois. She would wear her outfit from Exposed, with a stars-and-stripes helmet, and be shot out of a cannon in the name of undercover work.
I'm sorry, I had to say it. If you mean "part of the accepted storyline", it's spelled with two n's. Canon.

[dunkman]

I appreciate you correcting that spelling, Peat Moss;)

I have seen the rumor of DC buying Chloe's character, & that could mean she won't get bumped off, unless DC just refers to her in flashbacks; in which case she could still get bumped off.
Her codename "Watchtower" is a hint not referring to a person; it is the name of the Justice League headquarters (comparable to the Hall of Justice, as it was called on Superfriends), so that hint doesn't mean anything. & she can't become "the Oracle", even though that's what she does, because Barbara Gordon is "the Oracle", & that's much later.
Why did she tell Clark "you have some Amazing Friends"? That's Spiderman--she should have said, "you have some Super friends"!