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Sk8erGur1
01-18-2007, 07:42 PM
Well, am I?

BobMalooga
01-18-2007, 07:43 PM
Originally posted by Sk8erGur1
Well, am I?

I don't know, but I liked it!
Keith

bl24ndon
01-18-2007, 07:44 PM
I think you are... I thought it was great

dave73085
01-18-2007, 07:44 PM
From what I've seen, yes...

it would make for a better thread if you mentioned the thing(s) you didn't like about it...as opposed to just saying you didn't like it

Sk8erGur1
01-18-2007, 07:48 PM
Well, I'll just say it was somewhat boring, predictable, cliched... oh, and it didn't live up to the hype.

ChlarkMe
01-18-2007, 07:51 PM
I really liked it, but yeah it wasn't as great as I thought it would be.

spidymich
01-18-2007, 07:51 PM
It was too rushed.

JKB85
01-18-2007, 07:52 PM
I kind of agree I think that it could have been a bit better. They made it seem like it was going to be the best episode of Smallville ever when it kind of was average....

Superman86
01-18-2007, 07:52 PM
well if some of you who didn't like it then if you read spoilers maybe you shouldn't then it wouldn't be "predictable"

BoguszX
01-18-2007, 07:53 PM
Originally posted by Sk8erGur1
Well, I'll just say it was somewhat boring, predictable, cliched... oh, and it didn't live up to the hype.
LOL x2
Im sorry but boring? How much more action do you need?
Predictable if you knew the script but come on from reading spoilers and what not you can hint at what will happen.
What hype did it not live up to? Whatever hype that was built up was from pictures and spoliers about it before it aired so I dont understand...

shansgrl
01-18-2007, 07:54 PM
I thought it was great.

Ardiem3
01-18-2007, 07:55 PM
It was great and awesome, but i wouldnt call it spectacular. There was alot of hype about this show, even before it was filmed, and it seemed rushed and we didnt see a whole lot of each of the Justice League members. This episode really shouldve been a two-parter IMO. Anyone agree?

dave73085
01-18-2007, 07:55 PM
Originally posted by Sk8erGur1
Well, I'll just say it was somewhat boring, predictable, cliched... oh, and it didn't live up to the hype.

maybe we don't have the same definition of sucked...that word makes me think of episodes like ageless and static, which I don't think this deserves to be put on the same level as.

do you not think it was better than a lot of recent eps?

I loved that we got action and a reprieve from angst

MidgardDragon
01-18-2007, 07:56 PM
Originally posted by Sk8erGur1
Well, I'll just say it was somewhat boring, predictable, cliched... oh, and it didn't live up to the hype.

Why, in this day and age of the internet, where everything is hyped up beyond evey possible expectation, to people still believe in hype? And why is it when and episode is good but not perfect, the same thing is always said, that it "didn't live up to the hype"?

Sk8erGur1
01-18-2007, 07:56 PM
Originally posted by Superman86
well if some of you who didn't like it then if you read spoilers maybe you shouldn't then it wouldn't be "predictable"


Even if you read the spoilers... they were so tight an gave away rarely anything.


So, yes, I am still going with predictable.

DawnFire
01-18-2007, 07:57 PM
Besides the superhero part....the rest was nothing special....like something is missing...LANA!!!! I missss yooouuu! lol

Ilovebeinglost
01-18-2007, 07:58 PM
Originally posted by Sk8erGur1
Well, am I?

I think you should be banned for saying such a thing:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

It was the best go look at the polls

dave73085
01-18-2007, 07:58 PM
Originally posted by DawnFire
Besides the superhero part....the rest was nothing special....like something is missing...LANA!!!! I missss yooouuu! lol

But wasn't the superhero part pretty much the whole episode? :D

Ilovebeinglost
01-18-2007, 07:59 PM
Originally posted by DawnFire
like something is missing...LANA!!!! I missss yooouuu! lol


that was the best part of the whole episode :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

meggy
01-18-2007, 07:59 PM
i loved it! it could have been a 2 hour thing though...but i get the feeling the JLA will be back in season 7..and hell, ollie might be coming back in the season finale

Ginx
01-18-2007, 08:00 PM
I just stay clear of any 'hype' and make my own decision based on actually viewing the movie/show/episode.

I thought it was great. One of the better episodes I have seen in a bit. It's the beginning of JL.....what could be better than that? But you know - different strokes for different folks - to each their own. It's all good.

Skywalker
01-18-2007, 08:01 PM
Originally posted by BoguszX
LOL x2
Im sorry but boring? How much more action do you need?
Whats the point in having the "Justice League", if their just gonna beat up a few Luthorcorp securtity guards.

Sorry but it was a snorefest. Just another ratings gimmick like Reckoning last year.

I mean why not have them team up against the last Zoner or something, at least then we could get a decent fight...

sUnKiSsT
01-18-2007, 08:05 PM
haha there was no lana yessss! a break from her :lol: i thought the eppy was great :D

Deana
01-18-2007, 08:07 PM
I would not say it sucked. It was just a huge disappointment. HUGE.....

MidgardDragon
01-18-2007, 08:08 PM
Originally posted by Skywalker
Whats the point in having the "Justice League", if their just gonna beat up a few Luthorcorp securtity guards.

Sorry but it was a snorefest. Just another ratings gimmick like Reckoning last year.

I mean why not have them team up against the last Zoner or something, at least then we could get a decent fight...

It's called a setup. They're saving the big guns for the end of the season IMO. That's just speculation on my part, really, but I think they've set up another JL episode near the end of the season to either deal with the last Zoner or take out the rest of 33.1

thehenry89
01-18-2007, 08:08 PM
well pu-ta-oe, pu-tah-o

i loved it personally

JKB85
01-18-2007, 08:09 PM
Many of you might disagree with me but personally the main reason why i didn't like this epsiode was because they made it really seem like Oliver Queen started the justice league. Mind you i am not up to date on all my comic books but I always thought it was either Superman, Batman or Wonder Woman (or some combo) that started it.

wallyK
01-18-2007, 08:09 PM
Actually, I enjoyed this episode precisely because Lana was missing. I also think the scene between Lois and Oliver beat most of the Clark-Lana scenes from this show.

The most heavily advertised image for the episode was the one where the 5 of them are walking together. Before seeing the episode, I assumed that the 5 of them were going to go do something together, but that did not happen.

Clark is still taking a back seat to the GA. You have to keep in mind that SMALLVILLE is a new take on the Superman story. In this version, Clark does not become a real leader until later, when he becomes superman. Apparently.

Crispin Glover
01-18-2007, 08:10 PM
Not since "Reckoning," at least the first half of it, have I been on the edge-of-my-seat. This episode is now in my top three: "Reckoning," "Justice," "Exile."

Finally the special effects were given the proper treatment, and I loved that Bart was a main focus of the episode.

I also really loved not having Lana in this episode. Having Lois and Oliver was much better than Clark and Lana. Now Oliver can finally relate to Clark.

WOW!!!!!

kal159
01-18-2007, 08:16 PM
Originally posted by DawnFire
Besides the superhero part....the rest was nothing special....like something is missing...LANA!!!! I missss yooouuu! lol

Having Lana in that ep would've made me feel like i was watching a superpowered Days of our Lives
lana was good in the earlier seasons her only real purpose now is to be a part of the soap opera that is clexana

boywithbluehanger
01-18-2007, 08:19 PM
No one on earth could honestly say they thought the episode sucked completely!!

Even if someone posts it, imo its an unhonesnt reaction to what they saw tonight !

greenlanternfan828
01-18-2007, 08:19 PM
they should have had more fighting

Spoon AZ
01-18-2007, 08:20 PM
There's always gonna be people that don't like an episode.

But unless you spoiled yourself prior to viewing, I don't see how you couldn't like it as a.) a fan of smallville b.) a fan of DC characters.

Unless of course you're a fanboy purist that demands exact transalation from the source.

Again, everyone is free to their opinion though so please express if you thought it sucked.

But this episode was a blast.

kal159
01-18-2007, 08:20 PM
Originally posted by JKB85
Many of you might disagree with me but personally the main reason why i didn't like this epsiode was because they made it really seem like Oliver Queen started the justice league. Mind you i am not up to date on all my comic books but I always thought it was either Superman, Batman or Wonder Woman (or some combo) that started it.

i read about it a while back but i am pretty sure superman and them were always founding members but i think it may have started with Green Lantern and Green Arrow but i am not sure like i said i haven't read up on it in a while if someone actually knows let me know or i should go to wikipedia-you have to love that website

MidgardDragon
01-18-2007, 08:20 PM
No offense, but I'm very glad that people who think that fight scenes are the beat-all end-all of good television don't run the world.

Spoon AZ
01-18-2007, 08:21 PM
If I'm not mistaken in modern tellings of the JLA it's Martian Manhunter that initiates the League.

kal159
01-18-2007, 08:22 PM
But this episode was a blast. [/B]

agreed

Skywalker
01-18-2007, 08:22 PM
Originally posted by MidgardDragon
It's called a setup. They're saving the big guns for the end of the season IMO. That's just speculation on my part, really, but I think they've set up another JL episode near the end of the season to either deal with the last Zoner or take out the rest of 33.1

I've thought the same thing, but if thats the case, it should have been handled differently.

Hopefully, for the sake of a good finale, it will be them vs. the last zoner, or Aethyr and Nam-Ek or something like that, because honestly the whole destroying 33.1 is kinda pointless. Unless they plan on killing Lex, he's just gonna keep doing it and building new locations for his experiments.

ForzaItalia
01-18-2007, 08:27 PM
I don’t believe it....... I guess no matter how great an episode they make, someone somewhere isn’t going to like it.

Hopefulsuicide
01-18-2007, 08:37 PM
Originally posted by Ardiem3
It was great and awesome, but i wouldnt call it spectacular. There was alot of hype about this show, even before it was filmed, and it seemed rushed and we didnt see a whole lot of each of the Justice League members. This episode really shouldve been a two-parter IMO. Anyone agree?

amen

they gave alicia baker a two parter... they really could have spared an episode to further develop things... plenty of opportunity for good cliffhanger aswell. silly boys.

jimmyolsenblues
01-18-2007, 08:38 PM
I loved this episode.

MidgardDragon
01-18-2007, 08:39 PM
Originally posted by ForzaItalia
I don’t believe it....... I guess no matter how great an episode they make, someone somewhere isn’t going to like it.

Hey, just be glad this poster had the courtesy to not post "WORST. EPISODE. EVER!" We get one of those topics every week, and while I feel this is a bit of a spinoff of that typoe of thread, at least the poster had the courtesy not to use that cliche.

sprmansmyhero
01-18-2007, 08:40 PM
I'm not only a huge smallville fan but also a huge superman fan and therefore this episode almost made me pee my pants. IT ROCKED!!! And I don't know if it was just the whole justice thing coming together but I got chill!! I mean it was just sooooo Supermanly and awesome. Like those guys together! WOW...You can see that Clark still has a way to go before he is on their level but obviously...cuz we have more show ya kno. But he see what could be possible and you know its just a matter of time. GOd, OH MY! Sorry...I'm just soooo excited. For me, this season wasn't that great but now with Hydro and Justice and Crimson coming up....Its sooooo making up for it!!! AWESOME!!! JUSTICE !!!...

Lostfan588
01-18-2007, 08:42 PM
I loved it (but the spoilers seemed to exaggerate a bit! :rolleyes: )


The Lollie pop was sooo sweet at the end!

Chart was funny!

It was interesting why Clark felt the need to remind Chloe she has a boyfriend, she can take care of herself (jealous little BDA!)

Ollie and Flash were hot!!!!!!!!


I laughed when Clark got sick AGAIN from greenK...why that always have to happen makes him look so weak! lol


The CHlark scene at the end was ADORABLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

youandme
01-18-2007, 09:04 PM
I was expecting a little more from this episode. I mean it did seem rushed and all they were really doing was running through a bunch of hallways in this lab. I really liked the scene of Bart running continously I thought the effects were cool. But really I wanted to see some METEOR FREAKS in this Level 33.1! Maybe they will show something more in a later episode.

fresh prince
01-18-2007, 09:07 PM
I thought it was good but left dissapointed at the end everything was rushed

Lostfan588
01-18-2007, 09:09 PM
Originally posted by fresh prince
I thought it was good but left dissapointed at the end everything was rushed


Yeah it went by wayyyy to fast and i dunno it felt like sumthing was missing....like way too much action, but not enough interaction if that makes any sense....it was still good though j so much happening so fast!

ginnyfan
01-18-2007, 09:42 PM
I kind of feel like the episode got me all revved up... then nothing happened. LOL!

xrayvision
01-18-2007, 09:51 PM
It did not suck. But it was a far cry from what I thought it would be. As far as being predictable...I had a feeling that Clark would be made to look bad, and of course he was. What I didn't think is that they would be stupid enough to bring Chloe into the middle of a League of superheroes. She has her mortals to hang out with like Jimmy. This was Clark's chance to be together only with those who like him save people and are not considered normal, and of course they had to throw her into the mix. That was my main problem along with using some non-existent site-wide infrared scanner to make sure everyone vacated the premesis before going terrorist on it.

I was glad most of the angst was gone (Lois should not have been in this episode). I think Chloe's role should have been working to find out about 33.1 and finding that doctor at the end instead of just having him show up just like that at the beginning. That would have been much more consistent with Clark not getting Chloe involved in his Oliver Queen matters as he has done in every other season 6 episode.

Fish1941
01-18-2007, 09:55 PM
You are not alone. I thought it sucked, as well.

Quite frankly, the whole Junior Justice League of America bit really turned me off. I would have preferred if they had all learned to grow up and dumped that self-righteous Black-Ops crap attitude they seemed to be maintaining.

As for the Lois/Oliver romance . . . thank God it's over. At least I hope it is. And why didn't anyone tell her about dear AC being in the vicinity?

MidgardDragon
01-18-2007, 09:58 PM
Wait, wanting to stop Lex Luthor from doing experiments (most likely against their will) on people with abilities is self-righteous?

Fish1941
01-18-2007, 10:00 PM
Originally posted by MidgardDragon
Wait, wanting to stop Lex Luthor from doing experiments (most likely against their will) on people with abilities is self-righteous?

Sue me, I'm perverse. I dislike Oliver Green aka the Green Arrow to begin with. I dislike Bart Whatshisface aka the Flash. I have barely liked Clark these past two seasons. And the whole Jr. JLA schtick turned me off so much that I found myself sympathizing with Lex.

So, the answer to your question is . . . yes.

xrayvision
01-18-2007, 10:00 PM
Originally posted by youandme
I was expecting a little more from this episode. I mean it did seem rushed and all they were really doing was running through a bunch of hallways in this lab. I really liked the scene of Bart running continously I thought the effects were cool. But really I wanted to see some METEOR FREAKS in this Level 33.1! Maybe they will show something more in a later episode.

Heck, they didn't even show 33.1. They showed what seemed to be the Ridge facility that was just another Luthorcorp plant (obviously the same set as the Smallville plant). The only cage we saw was the one that held Bart, and Lex built it away from the main 33.1 site since he needed all sorts of industrial equipment to secure Bart.

I expected to see some freaks being let go by Lex to attack the JLA. I wanted to see some cages open and doctors of Lex's at work, not at the DP. There was too much running through hallways like you said. I think this episode should have been the one where the team is built instead of explaining it that the team had already been set up. Seriously, if Ollie had a team for a while now, why the hell wouldn't he tell Clark something like:

"Yo Clark, I got this team of heroes together and we could use someone like you. Wanna join"?

Ollie complained that Clark was a lone wolf type since he didn't join the JLA. However, that is exactly the same way the GA has been portrayed since Arrow. When has he ever tagged up with the rest of the team since then? Never.

MidgardDragon
01-18-2007, 10:01 PM
Originally posted by Fish1941
Sue me, I'm perverse. I dislike Oliver Green aka the Green Arrow to begin with. And the whole Jr. JLA schtick turned me off so much that I found myself sympathizing with Lex.

So, the answer to your question is . . . yes.

I cannot sue you, so I will just shake my head. ;)

Fish1941
01-18-2007, 10:03 PM
Originally posted by MidgardDragon
I cannot sue you, so I will just shake my head. ;)


Shake to your heart's content. I had dumped the whole black vs. white morality nonsense a long time ago.

kszonew
01-18-2007, 10:32 PM
A good episode, but not sure i'd consider it the greatest. There were good things, nothing bad, but felt there was potential for more to be done. Hopefully they'll bring the JL back at the end of the season for another episode. I did like the banter between the guys, made me believe they had really been working as a team for awhile. I didn't like the shot of them leaving the lab though. It made for a nice photo, but on screen it didn't do much for me, though I have a feeling the fact that they focused on Clark in the end was ment to be a "we are sorry" to the fans who felt Clark was getting jipped so far this season, especially since being the one who formed the JL in the episode, it would have made more sense for Oliver to get the closeup when they were walking away from the lab.

To the person who said fans are never happy even when a good episode is made, I don't think most people were unhappy or thought it was a bad episode, they just were expecting more or, like me, felt there was more potential.

I'd say "Justice" was one of the better ones of the season, and it was a bigger episode so that's good. Sometimes "Smallville" doesn't always get big episodes right, yet smaller, filler eps like "Fragile" end up being pleasent surprises (which is also a good thing since filler doesn't mean it can't be good).

RJLCyberPunk
01-18-2007, 10:35 PM
Uggh this is one of the reasons I rarely post on this board at all!
I mean to call this episode boring seems retarded given the amount of action it contained for a damn one hour show!

cygnusx1
01-18-2007, 10:41 PM
thought it was a good episode but should of been at least 2 parts

don johns
01-18-2007, 10:52 PM
Justice League was a major letdown. I waited for weeks to watch this episode and the episode was written and directed like an afternoon, after school program. It had less excitment and interest than a Power Ranger Episode. It is this kind of episode that speaks to the ending of Smallville by the end of Season 6. Lois has no ability to capture the moment or the feelings. Green Arrow and Lois were reciting lines to each other. What a joke...after all the major hype and this is what we got.

alienkinfolk
01-18-2007, 11:00 PM
I thought this ep was fun.Even though I wasn't expected the break up scene; i thought it had more hits than misfires

InLove_with_Chloe
01-18-2007, 11:01 PM
I expected less, so I was very pleased.

Lostfan588
01-18-2007, 11:02 PM
It was good...but it went by wayyyyyyyyyyyy wayyyyyyy to fast. I have a feeling Labyrinth will be 10 times better!

Kal EL2380
01-18-2007, 11:02 PM
Originally posted by don johns
Justice League was a major letdown. I waited for weeks to watch this episode and the episode was written and directed like an afternoon, after school program. It had less excitment and interest than a Power Ranger Episode. It is this kind of episode that speaks to the ending of Smallville by the end of Season 6. Lois has no ability to capture the moment or the feelings. Green Arrow and Lois were reciting lines to each other. What a joke...after all the major hype and this is what we got.

I doubt the ratings will agree with you. It did seem a bit rushed, but I really enjoyed the episode.

TheOriginalKal-el
01-18-2007, 11:03 PM
Hey look everbody...a young Justice League on Smallville....what a letdown.

Sk8erGur1
01-18-2007, 11:03 PM
Originally posted by RJLCyberPunk
Uggh this is one of the reasons I rarely post on this board at all!
I mean to call this episode boring seems retarded given the amount of action it contained for a damn one hour show!

So, your calling me a retard? Wow, that's a pretty mature way to go against someone else's opinion. TYVM.


.....



I didn't say the episode sucked entirely. I said some parts of it. Jesus. Some of you are being really harsh and juvenile.

boywithbluehanger
01-18-2007, 11:05 PM
I have this strange feeling that majority of the people that didnt enjoy this episode are fans of the comic and/or cartoon moreso than SV.

boywithbluehanger
01-18-2007, 11:09 PM
Originally posted by Fish1941
Shake to your heart's content. I had dumped the whole black vs. white morality nonsense a long time ago.

I sure am glad you put "morality" in there...that may have made for some awkward responses :D

RMF
01-18-2007, 11:29 PM
Originally posted by xrayvision
It did not suck. But it was a far cry from what I thought it would be. As far as being predictable...I had a feeling that Clark would be made to look bad, and of course he was.
Yes, he was, and I hated this aspect of it. It has felt unnatural for so long that the writers have kept holding him back and positioning him behind the curve. Now we get another let's-beat-up-on-Clark session. I am so freaking sick of listening to people lecture Clark. Let the poor man do his stuff, please!


What I didn't think is that they would be stupid enough to bring Chloe into the middle of a League of superheroes. She has her mortals to hang out with like Jimmy. This was Clark's chance to be together only with those who like him save people and are not considered normal, and of course they had to throw her into the mix.
And it was just bizzare to have Clark blab all the JLA members' identities to Chloe. It completely violated continuity of how the superheroes' secrets had been handled up until then. Not only does it endanger them, it endangers her, and anyway, those aren't his secrets to tell. Really poor writing choice.


Originally posted by xrayvision
I think this episode should have been the one where the team is built instead of explaining it that the team had already been set up. Seriously, if Ollie had a team for a while now, why the hell wouldn't he tell Clark something like:

"Yo Clark, I got this team of heroes together and we could use someone like you. Wanna join"?

Ollie complained that Clark was a lone wolf type since he didn't join the JLA. However, that is exactly the same way the GA has been portrayed since Arrow. When has he ever tagged up with the rest of the team since then? Never.
Absolutely. In "Arrow", Oliver tells Clark that if he's ready to do something about the ills of the world, to let him know, but that's all he's ever said. If he was trying to recruit Clark, why wouldn't he say he has a team and a mission? Silly. And I don't understand the decision not to have Clark help Oliver recruit the other JLA members, since he already knew them, and they already trusted him. Oliver just mysteriously comes up with the same people Clark already knows, and all of it happens offscreen. As long as they'd done the work in earlier episodes to set up those bonds with Clark, it would have made sense to exploit them. Instead, they're all but irrelevant.

smallvillerocks45
01-18-2007, 11:51 PM
I liked the episode. It was really great seeing Cyborg, Aquaman, "Impulse", Green Arrow, and Clark working together....I loved that. Nevertheless, the episode left something to be desired. I think it was actual conversations.
I get that with such a huge story and with so many characters to incorporate it is hard for everyone to have quality lines. Yet what made the past episodes (when it was one on one with Clark) so special is that he was able to relate to each character in some way. This time around, everything was so fast paced that it almost felt like GA and his team were meeting Clark for the first time. Then again, it's been a year + since Clark has seen these guys...so I probably shouldn't complain too much.

All in all, it was a good episode, and I can't wait to see what Lex and Lionel are going to do with regards to 33.1.

don johns
01-18-2007, 11:59 PM
This episode was embarrassing, simplistic, simpled minded, dumb, more infantile than an afternoon, after school program...worst than an episode from Power Rangers. Terribly written, directed and acted. It is time for Smallville to end with Season 6 so those of us who have followed this series from the beginning could still carry a sense of dignity and fond memories of what it was. Whoever was in charge of Season 2 and Season 3 should be brought back to head the creative team and bring this series to an END.

j-kent
01-19-2007, 12:29 AM
pretty much lol

MidgardDragon
01-19-2007, 01:49 AM
Originally posted by Fish1941
Shake to your heart's content. I had dumped the whole black vs. white morality nonsense a long time ago.

I was going to try to respond to this, but it was just going to be taken the wrong way and you would think I was being rude. Let me just say, that I do not believe in black vs. white morality. I embrace the gray areas, always have. The Justice League did not, however, do anything self-righteous tonight. In fact, the whole purpose of beginning the assault against 33.1 was to save OTHERS. Your posts sound a lot like Lex, with the ends justify the means attitude and the heroes trying to save everyone should just keep their noses out of it. That may be the world we live in, but that's not the world I want to see when I turn on a show about a guy who saves the world on a daily basis.

Batman/Superman#1
01-19-2007, 02:01 AM
I liked it but it could have been a little better.

NotTodayPete
01-19-2007, 02:24 AM
it didn't suck, but was average, didn't have the magic it has had before. It was great to see Bart again. Could have had a better buildup and suspense, it was kind of plain.

kiariclois
01-19-2007, 05:11 AM
YEP

smallvilleobsessor17
01-19-2007, 05:16 AM
This episode was WONDERFUL!!!

margroks
01-19-2007, 01:21 PM
I thought it was right up there with the top eps. No Lana, evil Lex and Chloe helps the guys fight Lex and LuthorCorp. Can't ask for more unless it would be no Lois. That would make it better, of course.

PKII
01-19-2007, 01:34 PM
Originally posted by Sk8erGur1
Well, am I? Nope. It was all predictable. Which sucks. It had some moments. #10 of the top 10 episodes.

Xsmallville_obsessedX
01-19-2007, 02:21 PM
I really liked the episode, but I had expected more. :\

kidkarmina
01-19-2007, 02:58 PM
i just watched the episode and enjoyed the ride. personally, this episode is one of the best.....that's it =)!

s_q
01-19-2007, 03:40 PM
I keep repeating this from thread to thread...

I sure liked the episode overall, it was good if you take superman out of the picture. But once again green arrow seemed too unlikable to me, and too bossy and well too much of negative. I loved everyone else, but it was just like what Clark did for all these guys meant nothing compared to what Ollie had done for them.

Besides all that, they shouldve made Clark use all his superpowers so he can show these guys what hes REALLY about. And theyr made green arrow too much like Batman which is just not acceptable to me. Liked the fact that finally Lois and Ollie are done. This show needs to focus more on Clark becoming more UN-dumber than they have been showing him lately.

demongene
01-19-2007, 05:07 PM
Not sure,but I loved it!

clois_lover10
01-19-2007, 05:13 PM
I was absolutely in love with this episode! Certain people don't like it as much because they imagine each scene to be basically what is perfect in their mind when they read spoilers (a common problem of mine :p), but if you look at the amazing acting and chemistry between these characters, you might just see how great this episode was.

I'm a diehard Clois fan, but that Lollie scene at the end had me tearing up.

chlarkfan333
01-19-2007, 05:16 PM
I found the episode utterly enjoyable. :D

Hopefulsuicide
01-20-2007, 01:02 AM
it was a good episode.

i have a couple of probelms with it though.

dont get me wrong, i really enjoyed it, made me smile loads, some killer moments...

However...

1) It WAS predictable, in the simplest sense. Nothing surprised me. And thats not cause i read too many spoilers, i mean i knew the basics but thats all.

2) I think one of the main reasons it was AMAZING is simply that smallville has a very bad habit of dissapointing. It was an amazing smallville episode... it just wasn't amazing t.v.

3) What the hell was that 'Come on boys, let's save the world'? That line sounded so wearestrongmewhocandoanything. That ticked me off a little.

High points definately gotta be Bart Allen. That kid can act, has some of the best lines in the whole show and is genuinely interesting and likeable.

Lois and Oliver break up? Thought that was actually quite heartbreaking. Whenever Lana had a one season boyf i always never felt the love. But i honestly believed Lois' feelings so it was difficult to watch her accept it so easily. Real love is way more desperate that a goodbye kiss and a teary eye.

Anyway, i don't agree the episode sucked, i thought it was very good, just not the best ever. Shattered or memoria or mercy are some of the best ever.

Billy Jor-El
01-20-2007, 03:03 PM
Yep, the OP is the only one :) there were lines that were a bit predictible and cliche, but never has the show seemed more like a comic book come to life than in "Justice," and isn't that the point? It IS a comic book. It was awesome, and TW finally looked more like Supes than ever before. Let's keep it rocking....

xrayvision
01-21-2007, 11:16 AM
You could have a show appear as a comic come to life and do it in a crappy way or do it in a spectacular fashion. There was no climax in this episode since there was very little for them to overcome. Also, when you look at what comic characters this show is supposed to bring to life, it was supposed to be Clark, Lex, and even Lois. Lois looked like a lovesick angsty girl like Lana had been shown, Clark was a hypocrite and total embarassment, and Lex only had 1 shining moment, after which he was trumped by a non-Superman superhero. In terms of doing the #1 function and bringing the Superman (or pre-Superman) days to life, it failed. All it did was show the Justice League in an episode that defaced & ridiculed the show's core characters. The episode could have been done much differently and still introduced the Justice League. The problem is, the writers were lazy and took the easy way out.

The best show that was basically a comic book come to life that I ever saw was Night Man in 1997-98 (done by Glen Larson, who did Knight Rider & Manimal in the 80's). Well, the first season anyway. Here is info:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Night_Man

It was not corny, with good effects & an interesting story. Too bad the 2nd season screwed it up completely and killed the show.

The Flash & Superboy shows from the late 80's-early 90's were also good, though the effects back then were lacking.

I have been waiting for the show to show it's comic book nature and was disappointed with how the core characters were portrayed in Justice. The also should have made this episode the very beginning of the JLA's mission against 33.1, where they learn of it, where Clark calls up Bart, Victor, and AC and they gather the team together.

I am not satisfied by just throwing in a bunch of heroes with suits and codenames in an episode and write it off as good without making the details, such as the episode's storyline, well-written and something of quality.

My closing comment will be that if the JLA spin-off is accepted & goes in production and if every episode will be more or less like Justice, the spin-off won't even last a season.

AltaiR
01-21-2007, 12:50 PM
I was disappointed that they never showed aquaman take out those goons when he came out of trhe ventilation shaft. plus it would have been better for him to have a mission underwater and plant bombs under the factory. Their wasnt much to show the justice teams skills. I would of preferred NightWing instead of the GreenArrow.

whitegold
01-21-2007, 02:00 PM
It was great and awesome, but i wouldnt call it spectacular. There was alot of hype about this show, even before it was filmed, and it seemed rushed and we didnt see a whole lot of each of the Justice League members. This episode really shouldve been a two-parter IMO. Anyone agree?

An awful lot of episodes have been like this. Someone has made the (bad) decision of having each episode 'complete'. This has detracted from the episodes themselves, and meant some poor plot line fillers have been left in.

I'm just glad this was a good episode. Lately I've found Smallville to be terrible.

Smallville used to be quite subtle - Lex slowly turning to the dark side; Lionel and Lex messing with each others heads. But now it is more 'soap opera' like.

This episode was enjoyable because it wasn't 'soap opera like'.

Bosrudorfer
01-21-2007, 04:01 PM
I also didnt like it. It felt corny. :\

RMF
01-21-2007, 05:15 PM
Originally posted by xrayvision
Also, when you look at what comic characters this show is supposed to bring to life, it was supposed to be Clark, Lex, and even Lois. Lois looked like a lovesick angsty girl like Lana had been shown, Clark was a hypocrite and total embarassment, and Lex only had 1 shining moment, after which he was trumped by a non-Superman superhero. In terms of doing the #1 function and bringing the Superman (or pre-Superman) days to life, it failed. All it did was show the Justice League in an episode that defaced & ridiculed the show's core characters. The episode could have been done much differently and still introduced the Justice League. The problem is, the writers were lazy and took the easy way out.
*wild applause*

Well said.