Lois getting dumped, are they making way for Clark & Lois?

[Charissa70]

Now that Lois got dumped, kinda cruelly, will Clark be her shoulder to cry on. She had said she wouldn't care if Ollie was from another planet, it was like it was a fact thrown in for Clark to remember.

[Kalel x2x2]

Originally posted by Charissa70
Now that Lois got dumped, kinda cruelly, will Clark be her shoulder to cry on. She had said she wouldn't care if Ollie was from another planet, it was like it was a fact thrown in for Clark to remember.

wo0t for Clois!

[shy175223]

yeah, right :rolleyes:

[Ireallylikethisshow]

I don't think their really making a lot of way for Clois. Not a real relationship anyway. Maybe, just trying to extend their limits a bit better.

I never thought Lollie would last more then half a season or so...

[HotStudsSuccess]

Lois will go for the Green Lantern next.

[liana]

No, they are not. I think they are making way for Lois to become the disappointed career woman she was supposed to be. She already had reservations about falling in love, now that she had and had being treated that way, she has a very good reason to start focusing in her career.

[shy175223]

Originally posted by liana
No, they are not. I think they are making way for Lois to become the disappointed career woman she was supposed to be. She already had reservations about falling in love, now that she had and had being treated that way, she has a very good reason to start focusing in her career.

I hope they go in that direction. This girl needs to get into gear when it come journalism.. She seems to be just barely gettiing there.

[Charissa70]

I wished after the breakup, they showed another scene with her. at least affected by it, maybe talking to her cousin,crying, Martha making her an apple pie. Break her heart, just let her walk off with her suitcase. I know the actress is off for some episodes for a movie, maybe Lois just kept walking with that suitcase right onto another soundstage. (she is off I think for 3 episodes according to ? tv guide?) maybe she is off licking her wounds and will go on vacation by herself and come back with a different attitude or like nothing happened-she will come back and throw herself at Jimmy Olsen-he has an in at the Daily Planet and he knows people

[Ardiem3]

Yes, they are bringing on th future of Clois, with baby steps. Theyve been forshadowing it for awhile, like with Lois's comment in "Reckoning," "I would be lucky to spend my life with someone as honorable as Clark" and how they look at each other and kid around. They friendly flirt and that will soon switch into romantic feelings after awhile.

[Lightstar Angel]

They'll never do it in this incarnation and I hope they heed that because EW!

[chunkeymonkey1981]

Umm if they are heading in any direction I would say chlark...just cause Ollie and Nois break up it doesnt mean Clois...

[liana]

Originally posted by chunkeymonkey1981
Umm if they are heading in any direction I would say chlark...just cause Ollie and Nois break up it doesnt mean Clois...

Actually, I was hoping they would be heading in the Clark becoming superman, like was supposed to be. Wasn't this the purpose of this show?

[meggy]

anything can happen in Smallville people...ANYTHING.....i figure after the breakup, she'll be low-key for a while, and when she returns after shoting her movie, maybe they will have a mention about Ollie and why she was away....

[jimmyolsenblues]

i think i read lois is gone for 3 episodes than i assume its all clois all the time.
sorry chlark fans i don't see a bright future for you, but your future is better than my ship.
The ship Clalicia :(

[TheOriginalKal-el]

I hear ya J.O.B....I hear ya...

[Zungas]

Lois needs RedK.

[InLove_with_Chloe]

Hell no!!!

[alienkinfolk]

Lois needs to find herself!And that means finish school and climb her way to the top at the Inquisitor

[cloisinmyheart]

she'll slowly progress into having romantic feelings for clark
she will most likely confide in clark about ollie and such but. of course that wont be aired

[Lostfan588]

No. Bc shes not even in any of the rest of the season except one episode (Crimson) where she gets mind whammied and wont remember anything and where Clois is used to make Clark declare feelings for Chloe...and then shes gonna again til the last couple eppys of the season when the love of her life GA comes back, so Clois aint gonna happen...in fact Lollie may go on that trip to Monte Carlo afterall :lol:

[kiariclois]

I sure do hope so...

[ShelbyKent]

After the end of the Lollie relationship, I think Lois will be more guarded regarding romance.

I think TPTB are also establishing why Lois in the future, will be wary of guys like Ollie, who would bail out on dates at the last minute, make lame excuses about them, and would suddenly exit her life without a clear-cut reason................... (sounds like some future bespectacled reporter that we know ;) )

[clois1938]

Originally posted by ShelbyKent
After the end of the Lollie relationship, I think Lois will be more guarded regarding romance.

I think TPTB are also establishing why Lois in the future, will be wary of guys like Ollie, who would bail out on dates at the last minute, make lame excuses about them, and would suddenly exit her life without a clear-cut reason................... (sounds like some future bespectacled reporter that we know ;) )
Well said! It sets the stage of classic Clois very nicely! :D

[j-kent]

Originally posted by Charissa70
Now that Lois got dumped, kinda cruelly, will Clark be her shoulder to cry on. She had said she wouldn't care if Ollie was from another planet, it was like it was a fact thrown in for Clark to remember.

I think it just had to be done because Ollie's signing off and won't be making appearances as well as to interwine with plot that the JL are now going to track down Lex's international facilities.

this is what lois will have to go through yet with CK...sad...

[Son of Kal-El20]

I highly doubt their going to make Clark and Lois. It would be nice since they screwed up majorly in the movie series.

[Rhoda123]

Originally posted by InLove_with_Chloe
Hell no!!!

I'm with him... a definitive HELL NO for me as well!

[Nightingale20]

Originally posted by liana
No, they are not. I think they are making way for Lois to become the disappointed career woman she was supposed to be. She already had reservations about falling in love, now that she had and had being treated that way, she has a very good reason to start focusing in her career.

This would be a good way to get her moving along more. And I agree, they are not heading for Clois.

[meggy]

sorry people, but i think it would not be good for Lois and Clark to be together/dating in SV...maybe TPTB will continue to tease (like they do for every ship)...but not go all out...imagine this...

Lollie just broke up because of the whole "you leave when things get interesting", secrets, have to go save the world thing...which Lois absolutely hates happening to her right now.....

with Clark it's going to be the exact same thing...if they got together in SV, he will have to do the SAME thing Ollie did to Lois, and if they stay true to the character, she isn't going to tolerate that from Clark anymore than she did with Ollie....

he'll have to do the same thing unless he tells her his secret....now if he does THAT on SV, then the mythos is thrown out the window COMPLETELY, and thus means ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING is game on this show...because we all know she cannot know his secret until he puts on that cape and tights....and since there is a no tights no flights rule...i don't see how they can pull that off

[Sadistic7Narcissist]

They may not be headed for Clois right this second, but it's my firm belief that they'll end the show with at least Clark having feelings for Lois. Even if she doesn't return them just yet. I also think Lois will be more guarded in who she trusts and love, and I think she already trusts Clark.

[meteor_phreak]

i agree that they aren't really going down this path. it seems they were more letting ollie get out of clarks way in the superhero business. having someone more confident and experienced was good to teach clark a few things, but until a true justice league spin-off happens, clark needs to stay the focus. wouldn't happen with ollie around. and the lois becoming hardened stuff...i see that as a good side effect, because it will be interesting to see her character development because of the events. I do suspect she'll talk to clark about it, in her usual 'I cant believe i'm talking to you like this' tone.

I don't see them ever doing Clois, just continually teasing us like they do and proving that they have excellent chemistry.

[brother_of_krypton]

you watch...instead of Clark, Losi will go on a trip to gotham, meet bruce and hook up...but we never SEE bruce...

[LovelyLoisLane]

Bruce Wayne is the next and last JL member to have a fling with Lois (comics wise) so if SV could get him they probably would have the Lane-Wayne show. lol That's not going to happen though because they can't have Batman on the show.

I was so heartbroken to see Lolliepop end, but I agree that it'd be nice if Lois hardened her heart for awhile. We all know how much of a cynic movie Lois is, and since I feel SV takes most of it's directive that isn't AU from the movies (even their soundtrack , lol) that would be a good bit of development.

I was talking with the fiance last night and we both decided that we don't think there should be anyone between Oliver and Clark. That the whole long period of time between the two important men in her life should be Lois and Lois ONLY time. So no, I don't think it will any time soon and don't really want SV Roma-Clois to happen. Just getting to that point where you can tell that they could be in love in the future (hints, foreshadows, Zod-like hand holding etc.) is good enough for this fan.

[Kal-ed]

If Lois dates, yet a nother JL member, Ill stop watching the show and burn my DVD´s.

She can date all she wants, heck she can date Pete but enough making her look like the league´s pass around, I know she is not, but 3 JL (4 counting Clark) would be too much.

And I think Ollie is SV´s substitute for Bruce, so it would be too stupid and repetitive, if she date a nother"Vigilante superhero, without superpowers, that uses cool hightec gadgets and is a Billionair" .

All way around Wayne-Lane romance is stupid (in SV that is).

And, Smallville did to Lollie what they did to Clana, turn an inocent fling into an epic Love story. Im sorry but I dont buy the Lollie love being a "forever kind of love" or at least I dont want to think so.

So far, taking what´s happened in SV 15 years later, Lois and Clark married (aside from the awkward JL meetings) there would be a sense of the one that got away in both cases Lana and Ollie, and I think we had enough of that from Clana but now Lollie too???? F**k that.

Clark and Lois are soulmates adn a gazillion years in the future, Superman Prime (of the fifht dimension) uses Lois´s DNA to bring her back to life as an immortal being, this is canon, not a shiper fanwank, im not talking SV Im talking canon.

Really, lets put things in perspective:

If Clark wasnt so stupid and just told Lana about his powers, they probably would have gone the distance (at least in SV canon). And being realistic Clark would always wonder "what if" even after being married to Lois, and that is a stain in Clois that i simply dont want.

If Ollie had been honest to Lois, they also would have gone the whole nine yards (at least in SV canon) and there goes a nother big if staining Clois.

Both relationships, didnt end because their love wasnt enough, or that they werent compatible,they ended because of external (unnecesary) circumstances and that kind of break up, leads to forever having a "what if" lingering in the back of your head".

I enjoyed Lollie as one of the few non angst relationships in SV, but I never liked Lois dating a nother JL member and now I also dislike the EPIC CROSSED STAR LOVERS story they had them in. I think Clana covered more than enough that department.


STUPID WRITERS, they cant keep making romances that show that the other person is the one, when we know they are not. There cant be 2 ones, but to me Lana seemed like the one for Clark and Ollie the one for Lois, but OH, major problem, it turns out in canon Clark and Lois are eachother´s "one", so how does that work I ask my self. The truth is, from what we have seen on SVLois could have easily ended up married to Ollie and Clark to Lana. BOGUS.

Nice episode, but the stupid playing and twisting the ships is ruining the overall of the series, at least for me, this season its been more about ships than any other season, and even amidst an action packed show, ships keep poping up.

P.S. If Lois is anything like comic Lois (I dont mean Chlois) she would have wanted to break up with Ollie as soon as she found out about him being GA, Lois shares Supermans moral values and couldnt live with a man that thinks "the end justifies the means". Yet in Hydro she was shown as very willing to put aside the fact that GA steals (even if its for a good cause).

[kiariclois]

I love the fact that you could put your thought into words, kal-ed... I'm not very good with that... I sure do feel the same way about SV relationship fiasco...

[Kal-ed]

Originally posted by LovelyLoisLane
That the whole long period of time between the two important men in her life should be Lois and Lois ONLY time.

Ha:confused: :confused:

Her two important man???

Lois only had one, Clark.

I dont care if I dont see it in SV, but not only are we not seeing it in SV, but its implicitely (sp) ruining their future together with all this "great loves" being found on both sides before they (Clark and Lois) hook up.

And SV has stoped being an inocent reinterpretation of the Superman story, now its a threat to the comics, as the comics have been, unfortunately adding more and more stuff from other media and alternate version, heck now, IN THE COMICS, Clark and Lois have a kid, yes there is a twist to it, but its obvious this is coming from the movie, Supes even has the "S" on the belt as the one in the movie.

So I am now oficially worried of what SV does as it may influence,at least in some degree, comic canon, heck it was alreayd tryed with Brithright (wich we still dont know if its in continuity or not)that attempted to destroy Byrne´s great origin and give us a new one that btw had some of SV traits.

Next thing you know, in the comics, Ollie shows up in Metropolis and Lois begins to doubt her marriage to Clark.

[thmallville]

ewww gross... i hope not!

[kiariclois]

Originally posted by thmallville
ewww gross... i hope not!

I second that

[thmallville]

Oh, lol sorry I only read the first post. I meant EWWW CLOIS!! NASTY EWWWWW!!!!!!!:p

[kiariclois]

Originally posted by thmallville
Oh, lol sorry I only read the first post. I meant EWWW CLOIS!! NASTY EWWWWW!!!!!!!:p

Owh... :o Not so eww then... :rotfl:

[supes0]

Next thing you know, in the comics, Ollie shows up in Metropolis and Lois begins to doubt her marriage to Clark.

No, the big rumor surrounding Ollie and his love life is:

There may be a marriage in the works between Black Canary and Ollie. I hope not, but the comic boards are buzzing

[Kal-ed]

Originally posted by supes0
No, the big rumor surrounding Ollie and his love life is:

There may be a marriage in the works between Black Canary and Ollie. I hope not, but the comic boards are buzzing

Thanks supes, but I was just being hypotetic about SV stuff influenciating the comics which we now know is not imposible.

[biggestfan]

Heck Yes they are heading to Clois. That would brighten up my day. If Lois doesn't like Clark then fine. But I'm hoping Chlark is getting over Lana and relizing he isn't meant to be with her.

[margroks]

No, they aren't, not seriously. Lois has been shown as the SISTEr figure, for God's sake and now, any hint of more is grossly disgusting. As for her career? Uh, what career? She was ready to rush off to Monte Carlo on Ollie's dollar with nothing said about leaving her admittedly pathetic semi-job at the tabloid. She is not a real journalist and considering that we now have Clark and Lex as well as the Justice Leage on deck not to mention her cousin Chloe right where the real Lois should be at this point there is no time for Lois to do anything credible in any organic fashion. Lois is out of time and Chloe beat her to it.

[AlwaysAround]

I could care less why GA left. I'm just happier than a pig in slop that he's gone! Maybe they can actually get back to the real focus of the show.

What was that again? Oh yeah, Clark and his journey towards becoming Superman. For a few weeks I thought I had the wrong show on.

As far as Lois goes, you'd have to be utterly blind not to see the Statue of Liberty sized anvils they have dropped on the future of Lois Lane, her reporting future, and her future with Clark Kent. Living in denial doesn't change the facts no matter how bad you wish they were different.

[ronniegrahame06]

Different shippers may have different opinions about this. The fact is that AlMiles have said that Clois wont get together on the show. They may play around with Clois a bit like they use to with Chlark, but that's probably all that'll happen.

Kinda sad though. :(

[AlwaysAround]

Originally posted by ronniegrahame06
Different shippers may have different opinions about this. The fact is that AlMiles have said that Clois wont get together on the show. They may play around with Clois a bit like they use to with Chlark, but that's probably all that'll happen.

Kinda sad though. :(

Let's get the actual facts strait now. Al and Miles have not said that Clois will in fact not get together. All we have heard are quotes from actors and what they think will happen. There is a very big difference.;)

[Mischael12]

Great loves, doesn't stop someone for being that One, how do you know its the one if you haven't had failed relationships before? It's definitely harder.

Personally I think they should just stray from the whole relationship thing, and have each character focus on their lives, they are approaching adult hood now, Lois is already an adult, Clark needs to except his blinkin destiny.

Chloe is doing good for herself at the daily planet, and Lana well she's going to marry a megalomaniac billionaire.

THey should just focus on setting things in their lives in condition.

[ronniegrahame06]

Originally posted by AlwaysAround
Let's get the actual facts strait now. Al and Miles have not said that Clois will in fact not get together. All we have heard are quotes from actors and what they think will happen. There is a very big difference.;)

Sorry. Guess I was a bit premature there.

I'm just not one to get my hopes up. Guess that makes me a pessimist. :\

[supercatmom]

Kal-ed, I could not agree with your post more.

The big problem I have had with Smallville over the years is the continuing Clana. They have made Lana out to be the love of Clark's life. And we all know according to cannon that it's Lois.

But for almost six years, Smallville keeps rehashing Clana. When according to cannon, Lana was just a girl he grew up with and dated briefly in High School. Not The Love of His Life.

Except for the constant rehasing of Clana, I am still a big fan of Smallville. But please enoungh is enough.

[jaime,oburg]

I'm kinda dissappointed about the lollie breakup. I really thought ED and JH had great chemistry. At this point in the story I could see Lois with Oliver more than Clark. I liked the pairing...Lois really seemed happy. I am kind of sad for her, she really loved the guy and he made her happy. We don't get to see a happy and contented Lois too often. I wish he did tell her about his secret. We all know Lois could definetly handle knowing.:\

[Kal-ed]

Originally posted by jaime,oburg
. At this point in the story I could see Lois with Oliver more than Clark. I liked the pairing...Lois really seemed happy. I am kind of sad for her, she really loved the guy and he made her happy.

To anyone that read my post and didnt agree, ^^ this post above is an unplaned (yet fortunate for me) proof of what I said earlier The way that they showed Lollie and Clana make it out to seem as if both couples where meant to be.

We might not like Clana (and trust me I hate it) but seeing it objectively, they should be together, but external obstacles keep poping up, yet their love has a steady course.

Lollie was angstfree, sexy, fun and after a while Love (judging on Lois´s reactions big love) and it came to a premature breakup for reasons external to the couple. And without canon in consideration, I would think Lollie was meant to be.

Clana, well, dispite their problems, their fundamental issue as a couple is also external, it was never about love, they both loved and still love eachother profoundly, we also know they got along just fine, again it was some external factor that intervined (external to their relationship as a couple that is).

The problem here is that if the writers dont give Lollie or Clana a real break up and closure, then there will always be a shadow or realistically should be of both relationships hanging above Clois, at least acoording to the way SV is being told, that is how things should go down or do the writers just expect me to forget the depth of their previous relationships and shrug them under the rug, Cause I cant, Ive seen what Lana means to Clark, and Ive seen what Ollie means to Lois, and I wont just buy it if one day Clark and Lois fall for eachother and forget all the history from their past "starcrossed lovers".

Clark and Lois didnt get married because Clark protected people from his secret (Clana) and because Lois was dating an awsome, handsome rich guy that had to go save the world wich got in the way of their relationship (Lollie), NO, this didnt happened, they got married cause there was no one else they could picture theirselves with 40 or 50 years down the line and because they love eachother. BUt as things seem to be going in Smallville, they got married cause their true loves didnt seem to work so well.

[LoisL]

Originally posted by Kal-ed

We might not like Clana (and trust me I hate it) but seeing it objectively, they should be together, but external obstacles keep poping up, yet their love has a steady course.

Lollie was angstfree, sexy, fun and after a while Love (judging on Lois´s reactions big love) and it came to a premature breakup for reasons external to the couple. And without canon in consideration, I would think Lollie was meant to be.



I think you're right, Kal-ed, that SV is undermining the Clois relationship of canon by inserting all these workable love relationships BUT I also think that there is a reason why Clana and Lollie didn't work which is not external.

It was Clark and Ollie's choices not to tell the women they supposedly love about their secret identities. They had internal issues of either trust or confidence or whatever.

I don't think Lollie gave off an impression of star crossed lovers. To me the breakup, Ollie's decision, Lois' loneliness just indicated that maybe they weren't so right for each other as they thought.

As for the infamous Clana, I think a huge issue in the relationship is Clark's (and Lana's) immaturity --- which is again an internal problem. I think Clark has been too young and confused thruout his relationship with Lana to ever acheive true love. jmho

p.s. i do think it would have been a more mature, in character and dramatic breakup if it had occured over Lois' differences w/GA.

[liana]

Originally posted by ronniegrahame06
Different shippers may have different opinions about this. The fact is that AlMiles have said that Clois wont get together on the show. They may play around with Clois a bit like they use to with Chlark, but that's probably all that'll happen.

Kinda sad though. :(

I thought they said it won't happen till the end of the show, if it happens. They didn't said anything final either way.

[jaime,oburg]

Originally posted by Kal-ed
BUt as things seem to be going in Smallville, they got married cause their true loves didnt seem to work so well. [/B]

Extactly. This is going to be a problem with some SV viewers accepting the future Clois ship. It should be that they get married because they couldn't see themselves with any other person who knows each other so well, but tptb have just written the characters to have soooo much baggage from earlier relationships that it takes away from the whole this is the one true love for me scenerio.

[Kal-ed]

Originally posted by jaime,oburg
Extactly. This is going to be a problem with some SV viewers accepting the future Clois ship. It should be that they get married because they couldn't see themselves with any other person who knows each other so well, but tptb have just written the characters to have soooo much baggage from earlier relationships that it takes away from the whole this is the one true love for me scenerio.

Yup they would seem to be getting married with each others second best option, and that in canon is no true.


Originally posted by LoisL
I think you're right, Kal-ed, that SV is undermining the Clois relationship of canon by inserting all these workable love relationships BUT I also think that there is a reason why Clana and Lollie didn't work which is not external.

It was Clark and Ollie's choices not to tell the women they supposedly love about their secret identities. They had internal issues of either trust or confidence or whatever.

I don't think Lollie gave off an impression of star crossed lovers. To me the breakup, Ollie's decision, Lois' loneliness just indicated that maybe they weren't so right for each other as they thought.

As for the infamous Clana, I think a huge issue in the relationship is Clark's (and Lana's) immaturity --- which is again an internal problem. I think Clark has been too young and confused thruout his relationship with Lana to ever acheive true love. jmho

p.s. i do think it would have been a more mature, in character and dramatic breakup if it had occured over Lois' differences w/GA.

True, but what I meant by external is that its not inherent within the relationship.

For example, Clark breaks up with Lana because she is too selfish, Clark breaks up with Lana because he doesnt love her enough, Lois breaks up with Ollie because she doesnt agree with GA´s ways. ALL THIS ARE INTERNAL ISSUES OF A COUPLE THAT COULD BREAK THEM UP, cause it involved the RELATIONSHIP ITSELF.

Now for External, well we have, Lollie breaking up because, although Lois is more important for him, there are more PRESSING matters that need to be atended. Clana breaking up because Clark feels the need to protect her, etc. ALL THIS ARE EXTERNAL CAUSE, although they involve one of the people involved ITS NOT REALLY A COUPLE PROBLEM.

So to sum up, Clana and Lollie didnt break up cause they didnt work as a couple, cause they DO work (or at least writers have gone out of their ways to show us that the couples are in fact a perfect fit). They broke up because larger things where involved that simply didnt allow the couple to continue together.

Lets put it this way, If you broke up with someone, because you didnt love him enough, or because your simply want diferent things in life, you´ll probably be sad for a while, but deep down you knew you just werent meant to be.

Now lets say you break up, cause he was shiped to war and then after a while you decide its time to move on, and you do (well sort of) dont you think that even with your new lover, deep down you´ll always wonder "What if he hadnt gone to war?" "Maybe he was the one, but the war got in the way" then you start questioning your current relationship " Would I be with this person if the other hadnt gone to war?". Stuff like that, that make you wonder what things could have been.

They need to give closure to those couples if they intend to at least leave things open for a future Clois (even if its not on screen).

What I would do is, have Lois find out Ollie is GA and we see that she simply cant accept the " The end justifies the means" filosofy he goes by. And Clark breaks up with Lana because he simply didnt love her as much as he thought he did, and that they will remain friends. This way, WE THE AUDIENCE dont have to wonder if maybe the other couples where better.

[jaime,oburg]

Lex doesn't seem to mind being runner up though....sorry, whole other thread.:eek:

[Kal-ed]

Well going by canon neither do Clark nor Lois. Lois is getting Lana´s slopy seconds, and Clark is getting Ollie´s sloppy seconds. :p

[LovelyLoisLane]

Well I think that as far as SV and it's timeline is concerned, yeah, there won't be Clois but I do think that this season they've given some not so obvious signs as to why it might work in the future of offscreenville.

Neither one of them agreed with the Green Arrow's Tactics of stealing to give.

Both of them flip flopped over wether Lois should know the secret or not.

["I just wish he didn't feel like he has to hide things from me."
"Maybe I don't want to know."

"If you don't tell her, you're going to hurt her."
*dresses as Green Arrow to keep the truth from Lois*
"Maybe helping Oliver with his secret wasn't such a good idea."]

They have an understanding of how the other one works and don't want to admit it.

["Sometimes you don't know me at all, and sometimes you know me better than anyone." *weird look*

"God! I hate it that you know me like that!"]

Those aren't huge giant anvils but to me they illustrate the difference between Oliver and Clark, or at least how Clark WILL be and how Lois WILL be as well.

I think it's also romantic that they would manage to get over losing relationships that meant everything to them once and realised that there was someone else out there for them all along. It takes away the hopelessness of a feeling I think Lois and Clark share. "Maybe I'm just meant to be alone."

So while at this current time Lois may very well view Oliver as the great love of her life, that doesn't make it impossible that she can get over him and I think she'll find herself stronger for it.

The same goes for Clark, when he finally utterly finds himself over Lana, which I feel can still happen, he will be stronger for it.

These relationships jaded them, true, but I think they also will teach them some lessons when they come together. Clark will be able to share a secret with the person he is currently in a relationship with. Lois will be able to accept that the man she is in a relationship is going to have to spend long amounts of time away from her, and she'll be okay with that. Lois isn't Lana and Clark isn't Oliver.
As a concept it still works for me.

On the show . . .it's iffy. I can see them start to show shades of Clois (compatibility as opposed to just anvils) but beyond that I'm not so sure.

This is coming from a HUGE Lolliepopper who isn't a SV Clois shipper, so think what you want about my post but you can't very well call it Clois-bias. . .so there :p


Originally posted by liana
I thought they said it won't happen till the end of the show, if it happens. They didn't said anything final either way.

They said Clark would start to feel a little something for Lois *not their exact words but that was the context* but that he'd probably have to wait until he was wearing the cape to have that go anywhere. *that second part were the exact words, my memory isn't ALL shot to sh*t* :p

[shy175223]

Originally posted by ronniegrahame06
Different shippers may have different opinions about this. The fact is that AlMiles have said that Clois wont get together on the show. They may play around with Clois a bit like they use to with Chlark, but that's probably all that'll happen.

Kinda sad though. :(

Actually I kind of agree with that. I do remember Almiles saying something to the effect that Clois will not get together on the show. I do not remember WHEN they said but I do remember them saying that. And I do agree that they will play around with Clois a little bit but they will be as for as it will go.

[Kal-ed]

Originally posted by shy175223
Actually I kind of agree with that. I do remember Almiles saying something to the effect that Clois will not get together on the show. I do not remember WHEN they said but I do remember them saying that. And I do agree that they will play around with Clois a little bit but they will be as for as it will go.

I know you dont want it Shy, but they AlMiles have never said anything like that.

In fact they didnt need to since at the time Clois was off limits, even cop out kisses were vetoed, like Possesion or dream sequences, obviously this have been lifted, (Hydro Kiss) and since the restrictions where lifted, the only Clois comment they made was at the begining of the season, first talking about all the triangles and then in an Al interveiw saying Clark´s feelings towards Lois would change, and I think they already have, its just that Al wasnt talking about love, but more like he cares more for her as friends now.

But so far no "NO CLOIS" comment has come from AlMiles. And if you think Im Clois biased read all my post from this thread and see my take on SV Clois and see Im far from wanting Clois in SV at least how it will most likely be done, so basically you could say Im not an SV Clois shiper.


Originally posted by LovelyLoisLane
Well I think that as far as SV and it's timeline is concerned, yeah, there won't be Clois but I do think that this season they've given some not so obvious signs as to why it might work in the future of offscreenville.

Neither one of them agreed with the Green Arrow's Tactics of stealing to give.

Both of them flip flopped over wether Lois should know the secret or not.

["I just wish he didn't feel like he has to hide things from me."
"Maybe I don't want to know."

"If you don't tell her, you're going to hurt her."
*dresses as Green Arrow to keep the truth from Lois*
"Maybe helping Oliver with his secret wasn't such a good idea."]

They have an understanding of how the other one works and don't want to admit it.

["Sometimes you don't know me at all, and sometimes you know me better than anyone." *weird look*

"God! I hate it that you know me like that!"]

Those aren't huge giant anvils but to me they illustrate the difference between Oliver and Clark, or at least how Clark WILL be and how Lois WILL be as well.

I think it's also romantic that they would manage to get over losing relationships that meant everything to them once and realised that there was someone else out there for them all along. It takes away the hopelessness of a feeling I think Lois and Clark share. "Maybe I'm just meant to be alone."

So while at this current time Lois may very well view Oliver as the great love of her life, that doesn't make it impossible that she can get over him and I think she'll find herself stronger for it.

The same goes for Clark, when he finally utterly finds himself over Lana, which I feel can still happen, he will be stronger for it.

These relationships jaded them, true, but I think they also will teach them some lessons when they come together. Clark will be able to share a secret with the person he is currently in a relationship with. Lois will be able to accept that the man she is in a relationship is going to have to spend long amounts of time away from her, and she'll be okay with that. Lois isn't Lana and Clark isn't Oliver.
As a concept it still works for me.

On the show . . .it's iffy. I can see them start to show shades of Clois (compatibility as opposed to just anvils) but beyond that I'm not so sure.

This is coming from a HUGE Lolliepopper who isn't a SV Clois shipper, so think what you want about my post but you can't very well call it Clois-bias. . .so there :p



This is ALL NICE AND MOOSHY, but it wont aply if they dont give CLOSURE to Lollie and Clana.

Both relationship ended abruptly and all parts have lingering feelings and even worse, they have a sense of things been left halfway, meaning that the way they broke up left open the posibilitie of further on getting back together, and its hard maybe even imposible to trully move on if you dont get the proper closure. And I dont belive SV writers will take the time to give those relationships closure.

Leaving me with a lazy written story that asks me to just shrug the great love stories between Lana and Clark and Lois and Oliver.

heck I can see them ending up together, the only problem is that to do so I must leave Lollie and Clana out of the equation, which I really cant, neither Clark nor Lois can erase what happened and the feeling of dissatisfaction of a prematurely ended relationship will (or should) hunt them for ever. Unless of course they finally get their closure, then I can see future Clois being all happy without two great unfinished relationship hanging around.

They could fix it so easily:

Lois finds out Ollie is GA and trys to cope with it but eventually she just cant get past the fact that Ollie belives "the end justifies the means".

Clark realises that his teenager infatuation was mistaken for love and Lana wasnt really the one, as he had thought earlier.

Then we can all have a happy SV ending and things are left right for an offscreen Clois, but the way things are now, Clois would be really hard to imagine as the canon clois, with all the baggage they have added to both characters in the love department.

[darkraya]

making room for clois. ITS ABOUT TIME!!!

[ox007]

you know what the best closure would be for Oli and Lois?
Clois!
Why?
When they would fall in love with each other they would see that their previous relationships weren't that special as they thought previously! The closure would be Lois and Clark's love! When they discover it they will know that it is something different!:)

[freefall]

Originally posted by ox007
you know what the best closure would be for Oli and Lois?
Clois!
Why?
When they would fall in love with each other they would see that their previous relationships weren't that special as they thought previously! The closure would be Lois and Clark's love! When they discover it they will know that it is something different!:)

:lol: Even more reason for us to root for Clois in the future right? ;)

I know what you mean. We all have people whom we thought are the great loves of our lives, and then something got in the way, and we have a very hard time getting over it as well as spending a lot of time over "what ifs" and "what might have beens".

But then, when we finally find ourselves The Soulmate and end up together in the future, our once supposedly great love can't even begin to compare to him or her.

(my second sappy post on this forum)

[Katarite]

I believe they are trying to pave the way for Clois, but it will not happen on the show. I am hoping beyond hope that they will at least show us that it does happen or will happen for sure by the last episode, but Smallville isn't about the future of Superman, and Lois is a part of that future. What the series needs to do is begin showing more trust and affection growing between the two characters.

I agree with a lot of what Kal-Ed says, but I don't think that it's too late for Clois to happen as the great love it will be. Many people who have fallen in love before still think what if, even when they have found the only person they can see themselves with fifty years down the road. It's being able to think what-if and not being able to see yourself in that situation that really matters.

Clark in the comics loved two women before Lois, right? Lana Lang and Lori Lamaris? I am willing to bet that he wonders once in a while what a marriage to them would be like, but he can no longer see himself with them, he can only see himself with Lois. It can be the same with Lois and Olliver.

However, I do agree that some sort of closure is needed. There just isn't enough time left on the show to show the foundations of that sort of love completely formed. I expect that Lois and Clark will begin confiding in each other more often in the seventh season, they will flirt more, it will become clear that they are quickly becoming best friends, but if that's all that the SV has time to show, it will seem like Clois is sloppy seconds.

[curiosity]

Originally posted by ronniegrahame06
Different shippers may have different opinions about this. The fact is that AlMiles have said that Clois wont get together on the show. They may play around with Clois a bit like they use to with Chlark, but that's probably all that'll happen.

Kinda sad though. :(

Really, because I read an interview saying there WOULD IN FACT, be romance between Lois and Clark by the end of the series.

The only question is, what will be considered the end?

The end of season six? (even if there will be a season 7)

The middle of season seven?

It would have to be one of the two, and after they start the unknowing kisses, and Clark's attraction, it's definately coming. Anyone who's watched prior Clark and Lois relationships from prior Superman shows and stories, knows this already.

And Clark never dates Lois in any version without telling her his secret. Once they start dating, he lets her know pretty quickly. It's only when they still like each other, but aren't dating that she doesn't know.
(except maybe in SR, and that doesn't really make sense and they never actually showed the relationship)

And in Smallville, in the episode Justice, Clark specifically says it's not a good idea to keep secrets from people you care about, and not a good idea for Ollie not to tell Lois, but still date her. He's pretty determined about it, because as soon as he says it, he tells Chloe about Bart. This is a pretty good indication, he'll tell Lois when they start dating. Why do you think the Mars comment was thrown in there?

Besides, Clark needs a relationship, and BIG DEAL if he starts to date Lois before he becomes Superman, AND tells her his secret on Smallville right before he becomes Superman. She could help him come up with the name, just like she does in the original story, and then help him decide on the outfit, when his mom makes it.

Geesh! I don't know what's wrong with this thread. I'm soooo tired of hearing "Clark can't do this, or that. Smallville has to be kept boring and nothing can happen on Smallville because the story has to remain exactly the same". If nothing can happen, what's the point?

If it remained exactly the same, no one would watch it, because we would all know exactly what's going to happen. Right now, we have just an idea.

The Clark/ Lois story happens differently in EVERY single version. The important thing is that it HAPPENS.

[boogiebear]

Originally posted by curiosity
Besides, Clark needs a relationship, and BIG DEAL if he starts to date Lois before he becomes Superman, and tells her his secret on Smallville right before he becomes Superman. She could help him come up with the name, just like she does in the original story, and then help his mom make the outfit.


I am not a shipper of any type, and I believe that the writers will do whatever they want to do, when they want to do it, forget canon. I do know and want Clark and Lois to be each other's soulmates at sometime in the future.
But when I read that about Lois helping Mama Kent making Clark's costume, I busted out laughing. Lois is about as domestic as a male rogue elephant. I love that about Lois, because even though she is not good with keeping a house, or other girly things, she can kick butt at investigative reporting(future lois, or what Lois is suppose to be). I can never see Lois with a needle or thread or cutting out a pattern, ever. I can see her twisting a bank manager's arm to convince him to confess to helping the bank robbers, after he attacked her.

[curiosity]

Originally posted by boogiebear
I am not a shipper of any type, and I believe that the writers will do whatever they want to do, when they want to do it, forget canon. I do know and want Clark and Lois to be each other's soulmates at sometime in the future.
But when I read that about Lois helping Mama Kent making Clark's costume, and busted out laughing. Lois is about as domestic as a male rogue elephant. I love that about Lois, because even though she is not good with keeping a house, or other girly things, she can kick butt at investigative reporting(future lois, or what Lois is suppose to be). I can never see Lois with a needle or thread or cutting out a pattern, ever. I can see her twisting a bank manager's arm to convince him to confess to helping the bank robbers, after he attacked her.

Ok, let me clarify, I agree with you on this one. When I wrote that, I meant --help decide what it should look like while Clark's mom makes it!

[boogiebear]

curiosity that statement just made me laugh. I was not picking at your post as I was sharing the mental picture I got. I could see Lois trying to take over the entire process. Still I hope this stays between Clark and his Mom. In Birthright, it seemed to increase their bond.

[XxKidMenuxX]

Originally posted by HotStu***uccess
Lois will go for the Green Lantern next.

LOL haha this is so probably true, she is a heroeater ;) but i do hope for Clois Woot Woo:lol:

[Kal-ed]

Originally posted by Katarite
Clark in the comics loved two women before Lois, right? Lana Lang and Lori Lamaris? , but he can no longer see himself with them, he can only see himself with Lois. It can be the same with Lois and Olliver.


Well, his love for Lana was more of a highschool crush and he loved her as a friend and confidant, and Lori, well it was similar to the Calicia romance, Clark found a woman who was diferent and could understand him better cause in a way she could easily put herself in his shoes, and he did love her but Not nearly as much as SV Clark loves Lana. and even proposed to her, but even she knew his heart wasnt into it and although she wanted to marry him, she broke it off cause deep down, theirs was more a romantic friendship than love, besides they got wonderfull closure and she was one of Lois´s brides maids.



I am willing to bet that he wonders once in a while what a marriage to them would be like

Nope, I can tell you for a fact he doesnt, thanks to the magic of Comics and how they are written we actually get a glimpse of his thoughts and one Clark went Lois he never came back, even when Parasite took her form and pretended to be Lois while she was locked up, she was a superb*tch to him and his love nor his thoughts faltered for one millisecond.

[shy175223]

Originally posted by Kal-ed
I know you dont want it Shy, but they AlMiles have never said anything like that.

In fact they didnt need to since at the time Clois was off limits, even cop out kisses were vetoed, like Possesion or dream sequences, obviously this have been lifted, (Hydro Kiss) and since the restrictions where lifted, the only Clois comment they made was at the begining of the season, first talking about all the triangles and then in an Al interveiw saying Clark´s feelings towards Lois would change, and I think they already have, its just that Al wasnt talking about love, but more like he cares more for her as friends now.

Well, like I said I can not remember when IF at all he has said that but granted that I wouldn't say that Clois ban was not lifted only relaxed otherwise they would already have a Clois romance happening. Hopefully it will stay that way.




But so far no "NO CLOIS" comment has come from AlMiles. And if you think Im Clois biased read all my post from this thread and see my take on SV Clois and see Im far from wanting Clois in SV at least how it will most likely be done, so basically you could say Im not an SV Clois shiper.

granted also. I am all for friendship Clois rather than anything else for them in SV.


Originally posted by Kal-ed
Well, his love for Lana was more of a highschool crush and he loved her as a friend and confidant, and Lori, well it was similar to the Calicia romance, Clark found a woman who was diferent and could understand him better cause in a way she could easily put herself in his shoes, and he did love her but Not nearly as much as SV Clark loves Lana. and even proposed to her, but even she knew his heart wasnt into it and although she wanted to marry him, she broke it off cause deep down, theirs was more a romantic friendship than love, besides they got wonderfull closure and she was one of Lois´s brides maids.

Everyone knows howI feel about this Calicia romance comparing to Clori romance of the comics. For me I do not see ANY comparison between them.Besides Clark had alot more in common with Lori than he ever did with Alicia IMO .Lori broke it off because they were from two different worlds not because Lori thought that Clark's heart wasn't it. the romantic relationship could easily about Lana or even Chloe.


Anyway, I do see Clois happening at least in the series finale rather NOW.

[ox007]

Clois rulez! :)

[londeaux]

I think that Clark is going to be torn between his feelings for Lois and his need to capture the rest of the zoners & finishing his training.

I wouldn't be surprised that he will "accompany (as a friend)" Lois to official events that his Mother will attending.

[meteor_phreak]

Originally posted by LoisL
I think you're right, Kal-ed, that SV is undermining the Clois relationship of canon by inserting all these workable love relationships BUT I also think that there is a reason why Clana and Lollie didn't work which is not external.

It was Clark and Ollie's choices not to tell the women they supposedly love about their secret identities. They had internal issues of either trust or confidence or whatever.

I don't think Lollie gave off an impression of star crossed lovers. To me the breakup, Ollie's decision, Lois' loneliness just indicated that maybe they weren't so right for each other as they thought.

As for the infamous Clana, I think a huge issue in the relationship is Clark's (and Lana's) immaturity --- which is again an internal problem. I think Clark has been too young and confused thruout his relationship with Lana to ever acheive true love. jmho

p.s. i do think it would have been a more mature, in character and dramatic breakup if it had occured over Lois' differences w/GA.

Clark did tell Lana. he made the whole-hearted committment and carried it out. then insert the events of 'reckoning' and i think you can get the point of what he's saying.

[Kal-ed]

Originally posted by shy175223
Well, like I said I can not remember when IF at all he has said that but granted that I wouldn't say that Clois ban was not lifted only relaxed otherwise they would already have a Clois romance happening. Hopefully it will stay that way.

Yup, but I think there are no more restriction, but I sincerely doubt thats the reason why Clois isnt happening, I think the reason its not going down is because tptb dont want to, they will keep playing with the ships, unfortunately now that the restrictions are gone they will include Clois in this mixed up shiping game of throwing bones to each and avery ship to keep all shipers tuning in every week to see what happens with their ship. If they go romantic Clois this soon, Clanaists and Chlarkers (and Clorists :p) wont have much of a chance after that. So my guess is theyll keep throwing bones at everyone and maybe in the last 2 epis of the series they´ll show or strongly suggest Clois, IF they even decide to show any of it in the show. but again, its not the restricctions, I belive the restricctions are completely off, but that doesnt mean Clois will happen, in fact Im pretty sure, tptb dont want to show it.





Everyone knows howI feel about this Calicia romance comparing to Clori romance of the comics. For me I do not see ANY comparison between them.Besides Clark had alot more in common with Lori than he ever did with Alicia IMO .Lori broke it off because they were from two different worlds not because Lori thought that Clark's heart wasn't it. the romantic relationship could easily about Lana or even Chloe.

Well I was just comparing how Clark felt about Lori, and how they came to connect, both of them being DIFERENT, so in that matter Clori was sort of live Calicia, not in all aspects just in the empathy department.

And if Clark and Lori had really wanted things to work out, they would have found the way, but they realized it just wasnt meant to be.

[ScoopGirl]

YES, more Clois! I definitely want to see Clark fall for Lois first, that is how the mythos goes.

[John L. Nerone]

We all knew this would happen. Lois and the Green Arrow aren't suppose to be together, so it had to happen, it was a given.
And they have been hinting this Season and Last. By things Lois has said to Martha, and her conversation with Clark in the Barn in Season 5 and Clark starts to see it too alittle after the Lois tells him he's saving for a bike, but all the time he really wanted a Harley.
Both my wife and I hope they really start to develope the Relationship with Lois and Clark now. Ollie out of the way, Lana is marrying Lex. They need to get with it, and give us Fan's what we want !! Lois and Clark together at last !! LOL
Keep your fingers crossed Fellow Smallville Fan's. :)

[genvillewars92]

bring on the clois!

[PhotoStarz]

Originally posted by genvillewars92
bring on the clois!

Good New's for all Lois and Clark Fan's. That's exactly where the writers are headed. Pick up a copy of the lastest Smallville Magazine Lover's Lane for more details !

[ronniegrahame06]

Originally posted by PhotoStarz
Good New's for all Lois and Clark Fan's. That's exactly where the writers are headed. Pick up a copy of the lastest Smallville Magazine Lover's Lane for more details !

:eek:

That's impossible!

What does it say in the magazine exactly?

[PhotoStarz]

Originally posted by ronniegrahame06
:eek:

That's impossible!

What does it say in the magazine exactly?

Nothing is Impossible in the World of Comicbook Characters LOL
Al/Miles has been pushing Lois and Clark together and then pulling them back, to create Suspense and excitement for us all.
Having them just come together would be boring.
The direction they are headed is to keep doing this, with Lois and Clark and Building on the attraction and admiration they have for each other. And it looks like they continue with that, because we all know they don't really get together till, they are older and at The Daily Planet. But they will get some intense moments together. Good enough for now LOL

[ronniegrahame06]

Originally posted by PhotoStarz
Nothing is Impossible in the World of Comicbook Characters LOL
Al/Miles has been pushing Lois and Clark together and then pulling them back, to create Suspense and excitement for us all.
Having them just come together would be boring.
The direction they are headed is to keep doing this, with Lois and Clark and Building on the attraction and admiration they have for each other. And it looks like they continue with that, because we all know they don't really get together till, they are older and at The Daily Planet. But they will get some intense moments together. Good enough for now LOL

I'm content with that. :)

[PhotoStarz]

Originally posted by Charissa70
Now that Lois got dumped, kinda cruelly, will Clark be her shoulder to cry on. She had said she wouldn't care if Ollie was from another planet, it was like it was a fact thrown in for Clark to remember.


Good Point !! About the from another Planet. Lois leaves lot's of hint's like that all through seasons 4 thur 6. First Season for Lois in Season 4 she states the type of guy she goes for is a geek with Glasses. Another major hint of the Future Clark Kent. There's more if you really look and listen.
Lois will turn to Clark more and more in the up coming Seasons, because she really does value what he say's even though at times she act's like she doesn't. And so does Clark with Lois.
At times they seem to hardly stand being around each other, and other times, as Clark put it to Lois, " Sometimes I think you know me better than anyone.
The fact is, they will be together in the future, but I don't know how much will be shown on Smallville, and how far it can go, given the fact, they don't really become an item, till later on when they are both at The Daily Planet. I am curious to see how far the writers will let them go on Smallville, with so many Superman fan's crying out for it to happen. I think we will all have to wait and see.

[pipersmum]

I read a while ago in an interview that they are not allowed to put Clark and Lois together 'as in boyfriend and girlfriend' that was part of the deal when they were given permission to use the character. So if that's true there will be no Clois at all on Smallville.