Big Dumb Alien + Kryptonite

[Rafael122]

"Hmm, I think I'll walk in the room without knowing thats on the otherside."

[lillie_poo_pod]

lmao!

[shansgrl]

I yelled out that he was a big dumb alien too!!

[Rosey]

God but I hate it when they write Clark that way. :mad:

[DPRO2006]

And he said he was a smart guy earlier lol

[98chase]

Maybe if here were more cautious, he would be alright. However, he wouldn't be moving through the building nearly as fast. The faster he gets to Bart, the more chance he has of saving his life. You wait too long, he may either 1) Talk or 2) Die. Clark was more worried about someone else's well being, which is far more noble than worrying about yourself. Of course, all of this is just my honest opinion.

[Rafael122]

It's as bad as that season where Chloe had to spell out ZOD in kryptonian symbols and then Clark is all like "Chloe, it says ZOD" NO!? Really?

[MidgardDragon]

He couldn't see through the lead shielding, we even saw him squint his eyes like he was trying. We all know Clark wouldn't leave Bart to die, thus, he rushed in. I hate when people just assume that he rushed in because he was dumb. He rushed in because that's what he does.

[Luthor5339]

Originally posted by 98chase
Maybe if here were more cautious, he would be alright. However, he wouldn't be moving through the building nearly as fast. The faster he gets to Bart, the more chance he has of saving his life. You wait too long, he may either 1) Talk or 2) Die. Clark was more worried about someone else's well being, which is far more noble than worrying about yourself. Of course, all of this is just my honest opinion.

And Bart could have been in there.

[dave73085]

You'd think with all the times he's stumbled on Kryptonite in labs that he'd have learned by now

[STFanatic]

I was waiting for him to smash through the door.
I actually caught myself yelling "Don't go in there!!"

[wraith808]

Clark is overconfident... it seems that all of the smart people here would have figured that out by now...

:rolleyes:

[meggy]

dumd..talk about dumb...i'm right now taping the epi so i could keep it..and for some reason I cant watch tv and tape..my tv gets screwed up...now thats dumb...i'll be watching the episode when it's already over :(

[spidymich]

way to go clark, you saved the day!!!.....not.

[Son of Kal-El20]

Yeah, he is an idiot. I real dope in every way. He sits and lets himself gets beat up. He walks into traps. Are they sure he's the future Superman? And how do we know he's going to pass the Jor-el training in the future. What if he spends 100 years in the simulation because he constantly failed in learning everything.

[Ginx]

Originally posted by shansgrl
I yelled out that he was a big dumb alien too!!

LMAO - Well he doesn't seem to show much common sense at times does he! He can't see through the door - it must be LEAD - but yet he still goes in!

I know he might have been a tad blinded by his goals of getting to Bart - but still. He's no good to anyone if he's a mess on the floor!!!!

[boywithbluehanger]

I love the scene where Clark tells Bart "I'm a smart guy" and instead of x-raying what Bart had in his backpack he walked towards it like Bart wasnt gonna just speed by and snatch itbefore he could.....yeah...a reeeeeeeal smart guy you are Clark!! :rolleyes:

Awesome episode by any means!!

[cmm]

lol im so glad someone mentioned this too the whole episode was great but this scene was dumb. Even after he opened the door you think he'd of seen the kryptonite and not gone in but nahhh he walks in... right to the green goop LOL

[Raith]

"Oh my gosh, it's lead, oh well! I'll still barge in!" ...... "OH SNAP! IT'S KRYPTONITE!"

[monpoirier]

What's funny is that it was like the first room he entered? Off all the rooms in the building...

[kal159]

Originally posted by boywithbluehanger
I love the scene where Clark tells Bart "I'm a smart guy" and instead of x-raying what Bart had in his backpack he walked towards it like Bart wasnt gonna just speed by and snatch itbefore he could.....yeah...a reeeeeeeal smart guy you are Clark!! :rolleyes:

Awesome episode by any means!!

i thought he would of x-rayed it to or at least got a head start he is a little bigger than bart could of stretched or something.
idk i think x-ray is the best bet but that wouldn't furthered along the story the way the writers planned

[jimmyolsenblues]

at least bda went along with the blow up.
Boyscout to the end.
Love superman, but batman would have broke lex's spine for giggles.

[canon]

Why didn't Clark just call Oliver instead of sending Chloe?

[wellluv]

he should peek before barging in like he owns it...like y'know regular people that walk into a room....

[alienkinfolk]

Originally posted by canon
Why didn't Clark just call Oliver instead of sending Chloe?

It's the dependence thing he has with her and she's his people;)


Originally posted by boywithbluehanger
I love the scene where Clark tells Bart "I'm a smart guy" and instead of x-raying what Bart had in his backpack he walked towards it like Bart wasnt gonna just speed by and snatch itbefore he could.....yeah...a reeeeeeeal smart guy you are Clark!! :rolleyes:

Awesome episode by any means!!

so true!
I was like Clark remebers he's smart-advanced class
But he doesn't scan the back pack-dunce cap
At least he's tryin'

[curiosity]

Ok, common, Clark/Superman cannot peep around the corner like a scared cat before he enters a room. He risks his life to save people. That's what he does.

However, if Chloe knew lead meant meteor storage, then you'd think Clark would know it also.

But....let's not forget, he did still save Bart at superspeed, and then sheilded Bart from the explosion. Remember, Bart is fast, but he's still vulnerable.

[ChlarkMe]

Originally posted by Rafael122
"Hmm, I think I'll walk in the room without knowing thats on the otherside."


Yeah, what was he thinking? Luthercorp would experiment with Kryptonie I just know they wouldn't so I'll just see what's in that room protected with lead..

He'll smartin up after his training I'm sure.

[InLove_with_Chloe]

Yes, he's big, he's dumb, but gotta love him!!!

[Superman86]

There seems to be a lot of Kryptonite in Smallville. I mean I know the astroids that came with Clark's ship when he was a baby had Kryptonite but it seems like everyone and everywhere has kryptonite. Clark can't even go to the bathroom without having to wipe his ass with krypton toilet paper. Now he walks into a whole room full of various forms of kryptonite. :(

[Hoogys]

Yeah, it's gonna be rough. --David Putty

[InLove_with_Chloe]

Originally posted by Superman86
Clark can't even go to the bathroom without having to wipe his ass with krypton toilet paper.
:lol:

[alienkinfolk]

Actually its been awhile since Clark stumbled into a room of Kryptonite. btw I didn't miss those type of scenes. With the second meteor shower it has given new chances for Clark to trip over the green rock
Whoopee:\

[j-kent]

Originally posted by MidgardDragon
He couldn't see through the lead shielding, we even saw him squint his eyes like he was trying. We all know Clark wouldn't leave Bart to die, thus, he rushed in. I hate when people just assume that he rushed in because he was dumb. He rushed in because that's what he does.

Words of Wisdom.

If you can't see through a door then you know something's up. Logically, Bart could have possibly been in there. I woulda rushed in if it meant saving someone's life as well.


Originally posted by boywithbluehanger
I love the scene where Clark tells Bart "I'm a smart guy" and instead of x-raying what Bart had in his backpack he walked towards it like Bart wasnt gonna just speed by and snatch itbefore he could.....yeah...a reeeeeeeal smart guy you are Clark!! :rolleyes:

Awesome episode by any means!!

Nah i don't think so. At that time, he respected the fact that Bart's secrets were his own. Also in this continuation I believe his x-ray only allows him to see the basic structure of any object. If it were anything detailed it probably wouldn't do him too much.

[STFanatic]

A fireman feels a door before opening it to make sure there is no fire on the other side, a police officer never enters a room without first checking to see if someone is standing behind the door with a shotgun.
Common sense. Because this is somehting they should expect due to experence.
Clark has encountered Kryptonite at Luthor owned (and other) properties, he knows it is a priority concern. He should have at least have been cautious when entering any room.
Someone with a peanut allergy wouldn't walk into a candy factory without at least expecting to encounter some type of nut.

[superpal1]

Green Arrow kind of told Clark off a little about rushing into things when he saved Clark. Hopefully this sinks in and we will actually get Clark looking before he leaps. With or Without training by Jorel this is just common sense.

[wallyK]

Every now and then, Clark/Superman runs into some Kryptonite. It's part of the story. At any given moment, Clark does not know that he is going to run into Kryptonite. And when he comes
accross a lead door while looking for Bart, who could be killed any minute, he has to knock it down. He cannot wait for Ollie every time that he needs to save somebody. After all, Ollie does not ask for Clark's help every time that he goes off to do something.
Most importantly, these stories are constructed in a certain way. In this one, we had the classic weakened by Kryptonsite scene, which would not have happened if Clark was more careful.

[drake00]

No, sorry. there is an easy remedy to this situation. I'm not buying the excuse he had to rush in to save Bart even if he did encounter Kryptonite. If he tries to see through the lead-lined doors and can't, there's his first clue that he might not be able to save the day in this case. Call one of the other guys to go in and save Bart. Duh! They're all in the same building together! Fools rush in where angels fear to tread, Clark. Words to live by.

[Ginx]

Originally posted by jimmyolsenblues
at least bda went along with the blow up.
Boyscout to the end.
Love superman, but batman would have broke lex's spine for giggles.

Not necessarily. Batman would have reacted differently though instead of being....well....rash.

Love Batman. :cool:

All that big lead door was missing was a warning label that a lot of K was in there.....but I don't think that would have mattered - Clark would have still gone in. :rolleyes:

[krypto's_keeper]

It's just like what Bats has said to him (in other incarnations) before:
"You always rush in, fists swinging, before you stop to think."
... Or it was something like that...

[nk_84]

Originally posted by Rafael122
"Hmm, I think I'll walk in the room without knowing thats on the otherside."


hahaha it's turning into a bit of a comedy show for Wellings character isn't it!! Bit of a shame really because they're making 'superman to be' look a little bit of a fool as he always seems to be walking into Krypto walls and smashing bottles and what not filled with the stuff.

I MEAN HE'S BLOOMIN DRANK IT BEFORE!! :rotfl:

'hmm something seems wrong, everyone's jealous....every time something is wrong green kryptonite is involved...hmm everyone is drinking the same juice...............I'LL HAVE SOME YAAAAY HAPPY LAND!! *cough* [clark keels over]'

he seems to set himself up for it! I wouldn't mind if Lex was that clever that he caught him unexpected using nothing but a highly educated IQ, but Clark went straight into the room, he couldn't x-ray it and yet walks straight in 'GUESS WHO?!'

As for Bart running in that cage, just reminded me of a hamster. In fact if i ever buy a hamster i'll name it impulse haha. 'c'mon impulse time for your daily run, if you stop running the cage will electrocute ya!'

[krypto's_keeper]

:lol: :lol: :lol: Oh thats hillarious, I'm laughing so hard my teacher's giving me a look, wondering what the heck I'm doing...

[Ginx]

Originally posted by krypto's_keeper
It's just like what Bats has said to him (in other incarnations) before:
"You always rush in, fists swinging, before you stop to think."
... Or it was something like that...

Yes, Bats has said that before and 'Expect the unexpected'.
Seems like Bats has bailed Supes out quite a bit.

I hope that Clark get a bit more common sense going on ...... look before you leap (no pun intended) kinda philo.

[krypto's_keeper]

Yes, thats right. Definatly look before you leap............right into a pool full of kryptionite...

[Ginx]

Originally posted by krypto's_keeper
Yes, thats right. Definatly look before you leap............right into a pool full of kryptionite...

hahhahahahaa:rotfl:

[krypto's_keeper]

Heh... never really been one for Clark bashing, but hey, this is fun... oh well, he brought it on himself...

[Krypton935]

Originally posted by j-kent
If you can't see through a door then you know something's up. Logically, Bart could have possibly been in there. I woulda rushed in if it meant saving someone's life as well.

Yeah I can se why he went in he was trying to save Bart. I definitly would have went in if I was in that position.

[wallyK]

It's a lead door. We know it meant something because we got to hear Chloe say "oh,no clark's trouble". It is not reasonable for Clark to wait for the GA everytime he comes accross a lead door.
Clark told Chloe to go find Oliver, but that he could get there faster himself. When Clark was in the building, he didn't know when the GA is going to show up. It might take several minutes, several minutes that might be too late. Since when does Superman need a chaperone?

[otter]

Okay, as viewers of this show and the Superman movies, we are conditioned to the fact that you hide Kryptonite inside lead, to keep Superman from seeing it. But does the lead really shield the Kryptonite's radiation from getting out and poisoning people? I've not heard that scenario, so I wouldn't assume lead points to k-rock storage. Frankly, I was surprised to hear Chloe say it!

BDA or not, I LOVE my Superman!

[Mischael12]

Considering that he hadn't encountered kryptonite for awhile i'll actually let it slide.

I did think he did rush in a little too quickly, but Superman was never really one to be subtly, its based on that he doesn't really need it, he can basically just do anything.

[krypto's_keeper]

Originally posted by Mischael12
...I did think he did rush in a little too quickly, but Superman was never really one to be subtly, its based on that he doesn't really need it, he can basically just do anything.

Except slow down for two seconds to look and think, "Hm, whats that stuff on the shelves?"

And when Superman doesn't slow down and think thing out, it can be trouble... Seen Superman Returns? He didn't think before he landed on Lex's lovely 'Island of Kryptionite' and he nearly got himself killed.

[MidgardDragon]

Originally posted by otter
Okay, as viewers of this show and the Superman movies, we are conditioned to the fact that you hide Kryptonite inside lead, to keep Superman from seeing it. But does the lead really shield the Kryptonite's radiation from getting out and poisoning people? I've not heard that scenario, so I wouldn't assume lead points to k-rock storage. Frankly, I was surprised to hear Chloe say it!

BDA or not, I LOVE my Superman!

I'm fairly sure lead has always shielded kryptonite radiation. I seem to remember in Superman The Movie that Lex hid a piece of Kryptonite in a lead box, and it didn't affect Superman until he opened it.

Also, if you notice the map Chloe was looking at, it pointed out the lead shielding *and* it was labelled as "REFINEMENT". Chloe being a smart girl put 2 and 2 and 2 together (lead shielding + refinement + Luthorcorp = Kryptonite).

[Welling_is_pretty]

yeah I was a bit disappointed in our BDA too. I mean, he looks, can't see through the door--it must be lead so what does that mean? Um, HELLO, must mean kryptonite!
I know he wanted to save Bart and all but would it have killed him to just open the door cautiously instead. That way he could have seen the GreenK and shut the door again before it affected him too badly. But no, our BDA rushes in as always.
*sighs in despair that our BDA will never learn*
I love him, I really do but sometimes...I wonder about that boy.

[lillie_poo_pod]

Like I said in my review. He had a blonde moment like the lady in Fragile who decided to stand right in front of the biss azz rattling mirror. But the lady's moment was dumber.

[TheSupaMan]

Yeah, he's such a dumb idiot. Walking into to save someone; thinking of others before himself. I understand it's supposed to be a joke.....but seriously guys.

[Mischael12]

Originally posted by krypto's_keeper
Except slow down for two seconds to look and think, "Hm, whats that stuff on the shelves?"

And when Superman doesn't slow down and think thing out, it can be trouble... Seen Superman Returns? He didn't think before he landed on Lex's lovely 'Island of Kryptionite' and he nearly got himself killed.

What I really find funny is the fact though that every time he falls down he manages to knock a bottle of liquid kryptonite on the floor.

I know but still the way he burst in he really did step in pretty far, all ready to kick ass and what not.

In Superman Returns it really didn't make much sense because a giant block of kryptonite like that should have basically killed him for being so close.

[zxcvBnm]

Well, same thing happens to superman in the first movie, so its not like he is a quick learner. Clarks biggest weakness is tryin to save as many ppl as he can without caculating risk

[Nerial]

Originally posted by otter
Okay, as viewers of this show and the Superman movies, we are conditioned to the fact that you hide Kryptonite inside lead, to keep Superman from seeing it. But does the lead really shield the Kryptonite's radiation from getting out and poisoning people? I've not heard that scenario, so I wouldn't assume lead points to k-rock storage. Frankly, I was surprised to hear Chloe say it!

BDA or not, I LOVE my Superman!

The lead is also a shield from kryptonite. There's something about its density that blocks the radiation. Visually hiding it from Superman is no good--he either feels its effects or doesn't. So, in the case of Lex in Superman the Movie, when Superman opened the lead-box and there was kryptonite inside, it hit him all at once. If the box wasn't made of lead, he would have started feeling the effects from a distance, and would have stayed clear (well, hopefully--Clark has a bad tendency to run head-first into everything). :)

[vikingjedi]

1) Clark can't see through lead

2) He didn't have a choice. What is he going to do, waste time walking around looking for another door he can see through? He was trying to rescue his friend

IMO it's just like the original Superman movie where Lex hides the Kryptonite in lead and tricks Clark into finding it

[beatles4]

Why didn't he use his super-hearing to find out if anyone was in that lead lined room before going in or use that power to see if he could hear Bart's voice anywhere in that building? Guess that's why he's still in training!

[XxKidMenuxX]

I dont get why they wrote him that way, Superman is very clever but his disguise Clark kent isnt too bright, but still Clark is Superman , Okay I am just confusing myself :confused:

[meteor_phreak]

I agree BDA, but this is nothing new for superman. I agree he shouldn't have waited, but would it have killed him to crack the door without walking all the way in first?

[jimmyolsenblues]

Has anyone ever watched Drawn Together.
Gives a whole new perspective on Big Dumb Alien.

[MaximRecoil]

Originally posted by vikingjedi
1) Clark can't see through lead

2) He didn't have a choice. What is he going to do, waste time walking around looking for another door he can see through? He was trying to rescue his friend

IMO it's just like the original Superman movie where Lex hides the Kryptonite in lead and tricks Clark into finding it

In the original Superman movie, Lex is the one who figured out that Kryptonite would harm Superman, after reading the article Lois wrote based on her interview with him (he mentioned that he was from Krypton and it had exploded). Lex had to rob a museum or whatever to get the meteor that he figured was from the explosion of Krypton that Superman had referrenced; i.e, Kryptonite.

In the movies and the comics, Kryptonite was rare; as opposed to common as dirt like in the Smallville series. And in the original movie, Superman didn't even know Kryptonite was harmful to him yet; his first encounter with it being the scene you mentioned.

[Mischael12]

The problem with the scene was the way Welling portrayed it, what happened is that the viewers get a brief moment of hesitation when he opens the door, so it makes it seem as if he should have been more prepared.

But it was explained why he did it the way he did though.

[KryptonScouse]

Well, Clark himself isn't dumb.....

If you were him, would you expect to find Kryptonite about? I wouldn't.

[Ania]

Originally posted by KryptonScouse
If you were him, would you expect to find Kryptonite about? I wouldn't. I would. The facility imprisons meteor freaks and Luthors have been using kryptonite for a long time now. Clark's seen kryptonite filled rooms before.
Besides, he couldn't x-ray through the door. Chloe knew just from lead covering that there's kryptonite inside - he didn't.

[Mischael12]

Not at first Chloe said something along the lines of bart being held behind something with Lead, and then clark superspeeded, its when she later checked again she drew the conclusion

[krypto's_keeper]

Originally posted by Mischael12
What I really find funny is the fact though that every time he falls down he manages to knock a bottle of liquid kryptonite on the floor.

I know but still the way he burst in he really did step in pretty far, all ready to kick ass and what not.

In Superman Returns it really didn't make much sense because a giant block of kryptonite like that should have basically killed him for being so close.

In the movie the Kryptonite whas only infused in the surrounding rock, so theoreticly it's effect should have been some what weaker. But to some degree, he still felt it's effects a little bit because we can see he was sweating, and I bet he was feeling a little quezy too, but hey, he has to go do the hero thing and stop Lex, so what's was he suppost to do? Back-up takes too long...

[meteor_phreak]

the BDA dilemma has been, though not always so aptly named, a problem for superman for a very long time. as defensive as I usually am about writers and their ideas, the BDA problem is usually their fault. Its because you know clark has to have some difficulty, yet he's so strong. with creative story telling you can make him smart and strong and still have troubles. lazy writers, however, can't create compelling stories, so they just take one of two routes. 1. having kryptonite or 2. removing his brain.

in very rare circumstances, you get some storylines that combine both. like this. i try not to worry about it too much.

[Mischael12]

Originally posted by krypto's_keeper
In the movie the Kryptonite whas only infused in the surrounding rock, so theoreticly it's effect should have been some what weaker. But to some degree, he still felt it's effects a little bit because we can see he was sweating, and I bet he was feeling a little quezy too, but hey, he has to go do the hero thing and stop Lex, so what's was he suppost to do? Back-up takes too long...


still its not until later though that it seems to really start effecting him , i would think a block like that would have effected him while he was flying in close vicinity at least a little.