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Theshadow129x
01-12-2007, 12:30 PM
I'm not a Lana lover. but does anyone else see how contridictive the character is? She tells everyone to be straight with her and to tell the truth but she lies and has more secrets than anyone else.

Tells lex she needs more time to think on it because they are moving too fast, Lie, because she is still in love with clark which was both a secret and a lie.

Goes to Chloe and tells her about the proposal and says she still has feelings for clark, which was i think both a secret and a lie again because she's been telling the guy she cant see how she ever LOVED him and acted like she hated his guts and its a secret because no body else knew.

Last but not least she goes to Clarks loft trying to get back with him knowing she is carrying lex's baby which is a secret she thought he didnt know about.


If the character was kept at a steady pace and not all over the place i would like her like back in the seasons 1 and 2 days.

lillie_poo_pod
01-12-2007, 12:34 PM
I'm telling you Lana NEEDS to be put in Belle Reeve.

thehenry89
01-12-2007, 12:48 PM
Originally posted by lillie_poo_pod
I'm telling you Lana NEEDS to be put in Belle Reeve.

they'd kick her out your only; allowed to have a maximum of 5 multiple personalitys to be in belle reeve.

lillie_poo_pod
01-12-2007, 12:57 PM
*sighs* Well damn

Ania
01-12-2007, 01:17 PM
Maybe she thought that if she told Chloe her secret that'd mean that Chloe keeps secrets, not her. Ha, Lana's so clever!

chlarkfan333
01-12-2007, 01:20 PM
I have never found a TV character who is more distasteful than her, at least none that come to mind immediately. I do hope she becomes evil.

xrayvision
01-12-2007, 01:55 PM
Originally posted by thehenry89
they'd kick her out your only; allowed to have a maximum of 5 multiple personalitys to be in belle reeve.

LOL!!!! Lex would have to have her taken to Dr. Litvack in Metropolis or one of his specialists who can handle more personalities.

emily feist
01-12-2007, 02:06 PM
She kind of reminds me of the beginning message for the X-Files, The Truth is Out There, because everyone on that show wanted the truth but they all kept their own secrets and lies. She always wants the whole truth but she never gives it to anyone else. I hope Chloe calls her out on this soon. Lex did it in Fallout but she didn't seem phased by it. Maybe Chloe needs to get a little snarky with her for her to see her own hypocrisy.

boogiebear
01-12-2007, 02:09 PM
I was preprogrammed to like Lana Lang. I have read Superman comics all my life. (I am in my early 40's) I always liked her character. A bit nosy, but a good person at heart. She always had Clark's back, and Superman/boy's back.
In the last 2 seasons or so, I have grown to dislike her so much that when I see her, I cringe. I cannot believe what the writers have turned her into. She left the relationship with Clark because of his "secrets & lies" then runs into Lex's arm. Lex who she has helped Clark uncover, and fight against his lies for seasons. This was the man who manhandled her because of a crystal. He lied about the ship, and tried to make her think she was crazy. She knew what Lexcorp did to Cyborg. Yet she calls Lex trustworthy, and yells at Clark about not knowing why she ever loved him. Carrying Lex's child, she goes up into Clark's loft to talk to him about feelings, without first saying she was pregnant. (Waiting days after she her feelings about Clark get plastered on the front page.) She agrees to marry a man, knowing she is in love with someone else. What type of person has she become?
The writers of this show has made Lana Lang into a horrible person, who cares nothing for anyone else but herself.

neildingley
01-12-2007, 03:41 PM
Originally posted by chlarkfan333
I have never found a TV character who is more distasteful than her, at least none that come to mind immediately. I do hope she becomes evil.

Personal I hoping we will will find out that the Bun in Lana's oven is actual Lionels. It would be great pay back on Lex.

hum could start a new ship "Liona", the Magnificent Bastard & the Evil Witch.

I agree that Lana is the Most contractidory character I can rember.

After all we seen her be evil and manipulative yet seems to belive Lex would never lie to her, and that Lex trusts her, come on she have to be extrely gullible to belive Lex has no secrets from her.

And she had a go at Chloe beliving Chloe had reveled her secret about her marriage to Lex, then she turns arround expecting Chloe to betray Clark by telling her his secret.

Mysticlies
01-12-2007, 04:30 PM
I don’t understand, she told Chloe, Clark, and Lex that she still has feelings for Clark.

10-5-4-9
01-12-2007, 04:34 PM
Originally posted by Mysticlies
I don’t understand, she told Chloe, Clark, and Lex that she still has feelings for Clark.

True, but the bun in her oven? And the fact that she tried to pry Clark's secret from Chloe and still try to get back with Clark without telling him that she's pregnant? None of that bodes well.

Mysticlies
01-12-2007, 04:40 PM
Originally posted by 10-5-4-9
True, but the bun in her oven? And the fact that she tried to pry Clark's secret from Chloe and still try to get back with Clark without telling him that she's pregnant? None of that bodes well.


I agree. The whole pregnant thing she kept on the down-low didn't really help her case. However unlike the other situations, She was never asked whether she was pregnant or not pregnant by anyone. Neither Clark, nor Chloe every asked her if she was pregnant, or asked her to tell them. In the other case she has opened her self countless times pleading for Clark to share his secret with her, when he refused. What she did with Chloe was wrong, but when I think of my personal life, and I know this from school/friends/work, people will always go behind someone's back to try to learn something about someone. This IMO is a normal social behaviour that man of us does. The only thing is I don't usually just give away info even when people asked, unless its harmless. Thats why I liked Chloe in this episode because she refused to give Clark's secret to lana, however very disappointed that Clark didn't share his secret with Lana himself.

10-5-4-9
01-12-2007, 04:44 PM
Originally posted by Mysticlies
I agree. The whole pregnant thing she kept on the down-low didn't really help her case. However unlike the other situations, She was never asked whether she was pregnant or not pregnant by anyone. Neither Clark, nor Chloe every asked her if she was pregnant, or asked her to tell them. In the other case she has opened her self countless times pleading for Clark to share his secret with her, when he refused. What she did with Chloe was wrong, but when I think of my personal life, and I know this from school/friends/work, people will always go behind someone's back to try to learn something about someone. This IMO is a normal social behaviour that man of us does. The only thing is I don't usually just give away info even when people asked, unless its harmless. Thats why I liked Chloe in this episode because she refused to give Clark's secret to lana, however very disappointed that Clark didn't share his secret with Lana himself.

It's the bipolar issue. One second she's giving Chloe the look of death, the next second she telling CLark she can't get over him and would he tell her his secret, and THEN it's all about having Lex. It's unbalanced and deceitful.

Mysticlies
01-12-2007, 04:48 PM
Originally posted by 10-5-4-9
It's the bipolar issue. One second she's giving Chloe the look of death, the next second she telling CLark she can't get over him and would he tell her his secret, and THEN it's all about having Lex. It's unbalanced and deceitful.

I agree the last part, was just to bipolar "...I love Clark, and I love you to lex.....so yes I'll marry you lex Luthor"

my only explanation is that there are countless number of people out there who end up marrying the person that wasn't really their first choice. sometimes its because their first choice, didn't agree or something else came up. still doesn't explain this rapid thought progression that struck her.

10-5-4-9
01-12-2007, 04:52 PM
Originally posted by Mysticlies
I agree the last part, was just to bipolar "...I love Clark, and I love you to lex.....so yes I'll marry you lex Luthor"

my only explanation is that there are countless number of people out there who end up marrying the person that wasn't really their first choice. sometimes its because their first choice, didn't agree or something else came up. still doesn't explain this rapid thought progression that struck her.

Well, I was thinking more of the way she bounced from Chloe to Clark, but we agree, it seems.:D

Mysticlies
01-12-2007, 05:01 PM
lol, there are so many secrets and lies going between all the characters that even writing about it confuses me. at least we agree on this :)

nanook7112
01-12-2007, 05:04 PM
At first I thought that clark should tell lana his secret like in the beginning of season 5 because they were together and he said he loved her and trusted her and you tell the people you love your secrets. But clark said he couldn't risk it because he didn't think she would react the way chloe did (which basically shows he really doesn't trust her like he claims). Then later I wanted clark to tell her the secret because it would first of all shut her up and could possible lead to a non angsty clana friendship. But now after most of this season and especially hydro I don't want clark to tell her because she doesn't deserve it. She can't be trusted and doesn't care about clark all that much even though she claims she does. She acts like it is her right to know the secret but when has she ever earned the right recently to be able to know the secret? To know the secret is a privalege that pete and chloe earned and respect. Both chloe and pete protected clark's secret but would lana actually do the same? I don't think the reason that lana shouldn't find out is connected to lex at all because like anyone else she found another guy who just happened to be clarks enemy (no clark she was not brainwashed she actually hooked up with lex all by herself). The reason is the way she treats clark and the rest of her friends.

Anyway, sorry for the long post just wanted to get that out.

darkraya
01-12-2007, 05:13 PM
i hate lana right now. shes playing lex and clark at the same time. cant she just make up her mind. im hoping shel leave lex and go to another boyfriend other than clark . i wish she looses the baby. im going to church for that.

cotton candy girl
01-12-2007, 05:18 PM
Originally posted by Theshadow129x
Tells lex she needs more time to think on it because they are moving too fast, Lie, because she is still in love with clark which was both a secret and a lie.

She came clean to Lex and told him she loves Clark.


Goes to Chloe and tells her about the proposal and says she still has feelings for clark, which was i think both a secret and a lie again because she's been telling the guy she cant see how she ever LOVED him and acted like she hated his guts and its a secret because no body else knew.

Clark told her to her face he doesn't love her. She can't be mad about that? People sometimes say things they don't mean when they're angry.


Last but not least she goes to Clarks loft trying to get back with him knowing she is carrying lex's baby which is a secret she thought he didnt know about.

I don't remember her trying to get back with Clark, but the pregnancy was a secret.

silverfist
01-12-2007, 05:45 PM
Lana: I went to see Clark.
Lex: ...and?
Lana: And I love him...I love both of you. And maybe I always will.
Lana: Lex, I couldn't say yes to you knowing that I might look back with regrets. You deserve better than that.
*Lex rambles on that he can wait forever and so on*
Lana: You don't have to. I'm done looking back!

She's pretty damn contridictive, yeah.

cotton candy girl
01-12-2007, 05:47 PM
Lana's love for Clark is not a secret or lie to Lex, and that's the point I'm making.

superman_115
01-12-2007, 05:57 PM
I mean, how would you react seeing your parent's blow 50 feet under by a meteorite.

I think I would be more than Bi-polar.

chlarkfan333
01-13-2007, 07:24 AM
It's always the same. Lana comes clean when it benefits her. Did she tell Lex about her 'feelings' for Clark? NO! He found out via the newspaper. She HAD TO come clean after that, or how else was she going to accept his proposal? It bugs the hell out of me that she's still adamant about knowing Clark's secret. When she was with him, fine, I could see why she felt like she 'deserved' to know, but now? She's carrying another man's child, one who has proposed to her, and she's STILL trying to figure out Clark's secret?!! Seriously, that's just plain wrong. To make it worse, she keeps secrets from Clark as well. She didn't tell him about the proposal or the baby. And while I'm still ranting let me add that Lana clearly doesn't know herself very well since she DID hesitate when Clark proposed to her in the AU. I didn't think a character could sink as low as Lana, I really didn't, which is why I do wish that she turns completely evil. That should make more sense. Knowing AlMiles though, I am pretty sure that her character will be lightswitched into the good guy by the end of the season when she'll turn against Lex in favour of Clark.

oberyn
01-13-2007, 10:06 AM
Originally posted by boogiebear
She left the relationship with Clark because of his "secrets & lies" then runs into Lex's arm. Lex who she has helped Clark uncover, and fight against his lies for seasons. This was the man who manhandled her because of a crystal. He lied about the ship, and tried to make her think she was crazy. She knew what Lexcorp did to Cyborg. Yet she calls Lex trustworthy, and yells at Clark about not knowing why she ever loved him. Carrying Lex's child, she goes up into Clark's loft to talk to him about feelings, without first saying she was pregnant. (Waiting days after she her feelings about Clark get plastered on the front page.) She agrees to marry a man, knowing she is in love with someone else. What type of person has she become?

I'm not a big Lana fan, but to be fair:

1. Clark's the one who ended the relationship, not her.

2. With respect to trusting Lex, how many seasons and incidents did it take for Clark to figure out that Lex wasn't a good guy. LOL.

3. IMO, it's a big stretch to label not telling one's ex about an unplanned pregnancy "keeping a secret".

4. In terms of agreeing to marry a man knowing she's in love with someone else, again, the whole pregnancy thing does add a layer of complexity to the whole matter.

5. Just about every character on the show is a hypocrite in terms of "secrets and lies". They all keep their fair share of secrets, yet get righteously indignant whenever they discover that someone else might have kept a secret from them.

Like I said, I don't like Lana, but it does seem like she gets bashed a lot for "sins" which don't seem all that egregious.

cloisinmyheart
01-13-2007, 11:16 AM
ugh..lana is such a hypocritical shady person

grr

TheSupaMan
01-13-2007, 11:22 AM
I find her to be desperate. The scene in the loft showed this brilliantly. She looked so pathetic, pratically begging to know Clark's secret.

MayaQT
01-13-2007, 11:44 AM
I remember at the CW launch Kristin Kreuk mentioned that she was staying until her contract was up and that's it. She's not planning to stay any longer than she has to (she sounded very humble though). I DON'T BLAME HER. Her character is by far the most screwed up. Her character is just used as a tool to pit people against each other but she never has anything of her own. If she does have something of her own (like the whole witch thing) it's completely out there and makes no sense.

Her character is contradictory and two-faced, she makes Lex look sane. I mean, at least we know where Lex's heart lies. Lana's... I don't know who she really is or what she really wants b/c she's a different person for everyone she meets.

I prefer the whining, pink-wearing for seasons 1-3 as annoying as she was.

j-kent
01-13-2007, 12:55 PM
Originally posted by thehenry89
they'd kick her out your only; allowed to have a maximum of 5 multiple personalitys to be in belle reeve.

Or better yet move her directly to level 33.1!

She's already defected!

Jetta
01-13-2007, 01:44 PM
Originally posted by oberyn
I'm not a big Lana fan, but to be fair:

1. Clark's the one who ended the relationship, not her.

2. With respect to trusting Lex, how many seasons and incidents did it take for Clark to figure out that Lex wasn't a good guy. LOL.

3. IMO, it's a big stretch to label not telling one's ex about an unplanned pregnancy "keeping a secret".

4. In terms of agreeing to marry a man knowing she's in love with someone else, again, the whole pregnancy thing does add a layer of complexity to the whole matter.

5. Just about every character on the show is a hypocrite in terms of "secrets and lies". They all keep their fair share of secrets, yet get righteously indignant whenever they discover that someone else might have kept a secret from them.

Like I said, I don't like Lana, but it does seem like she gets bashed a lot for "sins" which don't seem all that egregious.

1. Yes, Clark ended the relationship, so she could be with someone that would make her happy. Also, people break-up all the time, doing so doesn't make Clark a villain. As to him saying he doesn't love her, hey, she asked him to.

2. You are right, it took Clark a long time to learn about Lex. However, Lex was a lot better at hiding his shadiness back then. With Lana, the evidence is right in front of her (Lex lying about doing weapons testing with the military). Also, when Lana has proof she ignores it (Chloe finding out about the halfway house).

3. You may be right on this point, but is it not keeping a secret if you hide the pregnancy from the father of the child. She only told Lex after he went "missing" in static. To get technical though, hiding anything is technically keeping a secret. I don't feel that Lana was obliged to tell Clark about the pregnancy, but not doing it is keeping a secret.

4. I'm not going to argue with you on this point. Pregnancy does complicate the situation.

5. You are right, everyone is keeping secrets, but only some are demanding/expecting to know everyone else's. Clark got mad that Chloe didn't betray Lana to him, but Chloe let him have it for this assumption. Lana does the same thing and Chloe kept quiet and let it slide. Also, Chloe doesn't seem to be trying to extract secrets (possibly since everyone shared with her willingly) but she did stop her overly nosiness a couple seasons back. Lex is also trying to find out, but he is the villain of the story, so it is expected from him.

On a side note, I agree with MayaQT. I think that if KK has any self respect she has got to get herself away from this Lana character. Lana is an enormous insult to anyone that plays her. I feel great sadness and pity that KK is stuck in this role and don't blame her at all for wanting out.

oberyn
01-13-2007, 03:02 PM
Originally posted by Jetta
1. Yes, Clark ended the relationship, so she could be with someone that would make her happy. Also, people break-up all the time, doing so doesn't make Clark a villain. As to him saying he doesn't love her, hey, she asked him to.

I never said it made Clark a villain, I just think a lot of posts seem to spin it that Lana ended things, broke Clark's heart, etc. If you dump someone, the fact that they might harbor some resentment sort of comes with the territory, however valid your reasons for ending things.


2. You are right, it took Clark a long time to learn about Lex. However, Lex was a lot better at hiding his shadiness back then. With Lana, the evidence is right in front of her (Lex lying about doing weapons testing with the military). Also, when Lana has proof she ignores it (Chloe finding out about the halfway house).

I guess. I still say that Lana's just wearing the same blinders Clark had on for several seasons.


3. You may be right on this point, but is it not keeping a secret if you hide the pregnancy from the father of the child. She only told Lex after he went "missing" in static. To get technical though, hiding anything is technically keeping a secret. I don't feel that Lana was obliged to tell Clark about the pregnancy, but not doing it is keeping a secret.

I actually thought this was one of the few things that Smallville actually handled somewhat realistically, and I think that Lana-dislike is causing a lot of people to automatically cast her actions as being flighty and irrational. There are unplanned pregnancies with married couples in which the pregnant wife doesn't tell her husband right away. She might talk to a trusted friend, therapist, etc. first. I still think it's a stretch to start labeling this as Lana's keeping secrets. Cut the girl some slack. It's not like she and Lex had ever discussed marriage, children, etc. And as far as telling Clark? Again, this is the guy who dumped her. However justified he may have been in doing so, if I dump a girl I don't automatically expect that I'll be among the first people she calls with the news that she's pregnant, particularly when that pregnancy wasn't planned. LOL. Still being on speaking terms is usually the most I expect until enough time has passed.


5. You are right, everyone is keeping secrets, but only some are demanding/expecting to know everyone else's. Clark got mad that Chloe didn't betray Lana to him, but Chloe let him have it for this assumption. Lana does the same thing and Chloe kept quiet and let it slide.

(1) It might be that Chloe recognized, correctly, that Lana had quite a bit on her plate at that moment. Moreso than Clark when he got mad at her earlier in the episode.

(2) If Chloe had gone off on Lana it would only have served to further confirm that she was keeping something about Clark secret. Chloe was stuck between a rock and a hard place, and I think she made the right call.


Also, Chloe doesn't seem to be trying to extract secrets (possibly since everyone shared with her willingly) but she did stop her overly nosiness a couple seasons back.

I'm glad you added the parenthetical remark. Chloe knows as much as the audience, practically. She doesn't have to be nosy anymore. ;)

Clark is an alien with super powers. Check
Ollie is really Green Arrow. Check
Lana's pregnant. Check
Zoners. Check
Lex has proposed to Lana. Check

I wouldn't be surprised if Chloe doesn't already know where Shelby's been all this time.

Krypton935
01-13-2007, 03:12 PM
I so agree! Lana has become exactly what she tells everyone not to be. I just don't get it. LANA IS WEIRD!!!!!

ISUZU
01-13-2007, 06:43 PM
I just want to say to everyone - there is one obvious stupidity about the whole secrecy plot and all. This one thing is the very fact that both Lana and Lex are suspicous about Clark - having a secret in the first place. At no point in any season have they been in a state or condition to identify Clarks abilities and so forth. However, on Clarks part - he has done nothing but good for them - always been there to save Lana and Lex from near death and in the earlier case death itself.

So my opinion is - they only suspect he has a secret based on them being saved countless times and Clark been around the scene of the rescue but not really witnessing anything major. Just How dit it happen and was he part of it.

All Clark Kent has done is remain silent in the face of their constant accusations - nothing more.

oberyn
01-13-2007, 07:09 PM
Originally posted by ISUZU
All Clark Kent has done is remain silent in the face of their constant accusations - nothing more.

Well, that's not entirely true. They've both asked Clark (Lex moreso than Lana) point blank to explain some things, and Clark has, on mor than one occasion, lied to each of them. He's certainly had his reasons, but it's not accurate, IMO, to act like Clark hasn't gone out of his way to kep his secret/throw people off the scent.

Clark's lied to Lex about being able to decipher the Kryptonian symbols, what really went on in the caves in the finale of Season 5, etc. In "Run" he lies when Lex asks him point blank if he saw who took the manuscript. Clark doesn't remain silent, he lies and says "No." Again, he had his reasons, but his lies have been lies of both comission and omission.

valkyriex
01-13-2007, 07:12 PM
Originally posted by Theshadow129x
I'm not a Lana lover. but does anyone else see how contridictive the character is? She tells everyone to be straight with her and to tell the truth but she lies and has more secrets than anyone else.

Tells lex she needs more time to think on it because they are moving too fast, Lie, because she is still in love with clark which was both a secret and a lie.

Goes to Chloe and tells her about the proposal and says she still has feelings for clark, which was i think both a secret and a lie again because she's been telling the guy she cant see how she ever LOVED him and acted like she hated his guts and its a secret because no body else knew.

Last but not least she goes to Clarks loft trying to get back with him knowing she is carrying lex's baby which is a secret she thought he didnt know about.


If the character was kept at a steady pace and not all over the place i would like her like back in the seasons 1 and 2 days.

I agree with you 100%. I used to be a huge fan of her character also in the first couple of seasons. But in the last couple the writers have completely screwed up her character IMO. And like you said, many of her actions recently have been contradictory of each other. Like in this ep, she goes to Clark and urges him to tell her his secret and "trust" her. Yet ever since she's been with Lex Clark has been warning her about Lex and all the things he keeps secret from her. She chose not to believe any of it, so how the hell is he supposed to trust her when she hasn't trusted anything he's been saying to her in this whole season?

SnarkMasterJ
01-13-2007, 07:18 PM
What I don't understand is what does Lana think she stands to gain from being honest with the man whose child she's carrying about her feelings for someone else? There's a time to be up-front and start from a clean slate, and there's a time to just either not mention something, or mention it and walk away. I don't get why she gets to mention she loves someone else, along with loving Lex, and still ends up having a fiance and future husband out of the deal. It speaks to more weaknesses than the ones in her character, but my God...she was all happy and smiles during that acceptance, I'm just like...what are you smiling about? You totally tossed the man you say you love a bone like she's doing him a favor. Ugh.

valkyriex
01-13-2007, 07:26 PM
Originally posted by SnarkMasterJ
What I don't understand is what does Lana think she stands to gain from being honest with the man whose child she's carrying about her feelings for someone else? There's a time to be up-front and start from a clean slate, and there's a time to just either not mention something, or mention it and walk away. I don't get why she gets to mention she loves someone else, along with loving Lex, and still ends up having a fiance and future husband out of the deal. It speaks to more weaknesses than the ones in her character, but my God...she was all happy and smiles during that acceptance, I'm just like...what are you smiling about? You totally tossed the man you say you love a bone like she's doing him a favor. Ugh.

yea, that whole sequence was just completely screwed up IMO. I have no clue what the writers were thinking. How in the world is Lex not pissed to hear that she still has feelings for Clark? If that was me, I would've told her to get the hell out.

Theshadow129x
01-14-2007, 02:04 PM
i think the character needs to be written off the show. imo she's holding back both characters from their potential. and yes everyone has their own secrets but its the factt hat she implies to know everyone elses secrets first without coming clean about her secrets. i mean look at the loft scene. she demands to know and then clark pulled the trump card which was the baby and said go back to lex. I hope the character is off because im sick of this triangle crap that makes no sense. I've seen love triangles before and they made sense. this doesnt