View Full Version : Lois slapping Clark! Aargh
Supermau
01-11-2007, 10:24 PM
Some may say I am being nitpicky, but in all reality I am not.
How can Lois slap Clark without hurting herself as if she had just slapped a concrete pillar? This also happened in season 4 when she punched Clark in the arm for fun.
It's the little things that in the end add up, and when you have "the man of steel" being slapped by a human, it just doesn't figure. I mean, hardcore fans will remember Lex's little brother in season 2 trying to sucker punch Clark while playing basketball and feeling like he just ran into a wall.
Oh well, good episode in all
superspider02
01-11-2007, 10:27 PM
Yea i been woundering about that all the time in any superman incaration on tv and all that. With what u said about lex's half brother who has never been mentioned again you can blame that on the writers who have been very bad with continuity from time to time and all that.
xrayvision
01-11-2007, 10:30 PM
Lucas is busy raising his son Lenny to be a genius so he can one day build Nuclear Man for unca Lex :)
Exodus2000
01-11-2007, 10:31 PM
I guess you can go back to the 50's superman show when the bad guys would empty their gun at superman and he wouldnt flinch, then they would throw the gun at him and he would duck it *shrugs*
but yeah i noticed it....i guess they COULD say that Clark just didnt want to make GA seem all that "godly"
who knows
freefall
01-11-2007, 10:34 PM
Funny someone had also pointed out about this in another thread hours before Hydro aired. You even got Martha Kent pounding on the cold, apathetic, militaristic Kal-El in Crusade, still no broken arms :)
Anyway as for Clark Kent himself, just think of it as him deliberately taking all the punches, slappings and whatnots consciously. He obviously has enough control as not to make anyone hurt when they come in contact with him, like when he played football back in S4.
Supermau
01-11-2007, 10:57 PM
Originally posted by seacrystal
Anyway as for Clark Kent himself, just think of it as him deliberately taking all the punches, slappings and whatnots consciously. He obviously has enough control as not to make anyone hurt when they come in contact with him, like when he played football back in S4.
Yeah, I figure you're right about that. It would make sense for Clark to have to voluntarily control how he reacts with people, seeing as how even a friendly high five from him could break someone's hand if he wasn't careful, haha.
Sk8erGur1
01-11-2007, 11:23 PM
Seeing as Clark's love is so strong for her... Lois is the only woman/person who is capable of hurting him?
Or maybe ther writers don't think things through.
j-kent
01-12-2007, 01:10 AM
Originally posted by Supermau
Some may say I am being nitpicky, but in all reality I am not.
How can Lois slap Clark without hurting herself as if she had just slapped a concrete pillar? This also happened in season 4 when she punched Clark in the arm for fun.
It's the little things that in the end add up, and when you have "the man of steel" being slapped by a human, it just doesn't figure. I mean, hardcore fans will remember Lex's little brother in season 2 trying to sucker punch Clark while playing basketball and feeling like he just ran into a wall.
Oh well, good episode in all
Many continuations have that human-to-Superman contact portrayed diffrently and alike. However, if you think about it he has an extremely high molecular density but his texture is much like a human only a bit rougher more likely...with a slap or a swipe she wouldn't feel much as if you only slapped a concrete wall however apply a direct straight-line force then you would really feel the density of the wall
smallvillerocks45
01-12-2007, 01:14 AM
Originally posted by seacrystal
Funny someone had also pointed out about this in another thread hours before Hydro aired. You even got Martha Kent pounding on the cold, apathetic, militaristic Kal-El in Crusade, still no broken arms :)
Anyway as for Clark Kent himself, just think of it as him deliberately taking all the punches, slappings and whatnots consciously. He obviously has enough control as not to make anyone hurt when they come in contact with him, like when he played football back in S4.
You're probaby right...and to add to that, maybe Clark turned his head to the side so that Lois' hand wouldn't break upon contact with his face.
- Oh, and that Martha Kent part is funny. I thought about the lack of broken arms too, when I saw a repeat airing of that episode. She should have at least bruised...she must have great make-up.
freefall
01-12-2007, 01:57 AM
^ That Crusade scene was actually an unintentionally very funny moment for me. You have Kal-El looking upwards to the sky and proclaiming his destiny, with that dramatic music in the background and everything... then we saw Martha losing her cool and started hitting him on the chest over and over again, without even a single flicker of pain.
I mean, Kal-El is not really someone you would expect to care whether he'd hurt anyone or not. Definitely not someone who'd take the punches like Clark would :D
jimmyolsenblues
01-12-2007, 05:28 AM
i think with clark's super speed, he can see that slap from a mile away, and turns he head as the slap is coming.
it is also possible clark has control to soften up if he wants, like how could his cheeks move if they are of stone. you know ?
Kryptonian-Ronin
01-12-2007, 06:58 AM
Much like normal humans, Clark's body reacts to the amount of pressure put on it, that reaction can also be controlled.
Remember in SR when they try to inject a needle into Superman and it press into him and THEN snaps?
IF the slap had any real "power" to Clark behind it, she would have broken her hand, such is not the case.
Jetta
01-12-2007, 07:15 AM
I think the main reason for this problem is lack of thinking on the part of the writers. Still it can be explained. First off, I think there is the matter of control (like how he controlled himself on the field to keep people from getting hurt). Second while Clark is the Man of Steel, he is not exactly steel. His skin is elastic and will give a little where steel wouldn't. So when someone hits him it doesn't hurt them because his flesh gives a bit. If someone were to strike hard enough to impact his bones though, then they would/should definetely feel pain (like Lucas did when he punched Clark).
Mischael12
01-12-2007, 08:19 AM
Its been pointed out by some writers that Supermans Powers are mental, and in part are controlled by the amount of power that he really wants to put.
It would explain how he beats up bad guys and not literally turn them into smears. Not many could take the actual punishment he can dish out.
Now Clark isn't full superman yet, as he is probably weaker then what he will become, but he has been in control of his body for a while now so he has learned to control how people react around him and vice versa.
Which would be why he didn't want to have sex with Lana during sex, he would lose control and then snap...you get the point.
As well you can argue though that Lois's slap was accompanied by him moving his face at the same time so the blow was lessened.
angelberri56
01-12-2007, 08:28 AM
Clark's skin isnt *literally* like a stone. I mean, he can move around, can't he? His skin is soft like any other skin, but you can't stick a needle through it or cut it. I mean, you could take his fingers and move them around, because his skin moves lol, but if he chose to hold his hand still and not let you move his fingers, then you couldn't, because he's strong. So Lois can still slap him, but he won't feel it of course.
SVSpector
01-12-2007, 08:40 AM
Clark took the power of the slap when turned with it. Otherwise he could have just held his position and then it would have hurt Lois. Clark currently is as powerful as he will ever be based on the comics......its about control at this point......he still doesn't fully know what Jor'EL has in store for him.
~*Lois & Clark Fan*~
01-12-2007, 01:11 PM
Lois on Lois and Clark slapped Clark once and it didn't hurt her hand.
*shrugs*
iloveit
01-12-2007, 01:51 PM
Well even if he was like stone or whatever, slapping a wall wouldnt break your hand unless you put like all your power into it, which i really doubt Lois did to Clark anyways.
neildingley
01-12-2007, 03:26 PM
When I watched the Scene it Looked like Clark had already started turning his head before Lois hand made Contact. Now this could just be because of the way real actors take a hit,
Or you could say it was because Clark took the hit so Lois wouldn't hurt herself, after all when Clark was a football player he said he had to make a concious choice when ever somebody hit him to take the fall so they wouldn't get hurt..
defga
01-12-2007, 03:53 PM
when he is slapped, he moves his face a little and rolls with the hit. This would make it not hurt and still look like she slapped a non-Kryptonian
Krypton935
01-13-2007, 05:24 PM
Yeah he let her slap him so she wouldn't be hurt. he rolled his head with it like he has superspeed so he could do this w/out warning.
Raith
01-13-2007, 07:52 PM
As muscles contract, they become much MUCH stronger and denser, even. When muscle is relaxed, they're often soft. Man of Steel can make it seem so like that, too.
Son of Kal-El20
01-13-2007, 07:59 PM
Originally posted by Supermau
Some may say I am being nitpicky, but in all reality I am not.
How can Lois slap Clark without hurting herself as if she had just slapped a concrete pillar? This also happened in season 4 when she punched Clark in the arm for fun.
It's the little things that in the end add up, and when you have "the man of steel" being slapped by a human, it just doesn't figure. I mean, hardcore fans will remember Lex's little brother in season 2 trying to sucker punch Clark while playing basketball and feeling like he just ran into a wall.
Oh well, good episode in all
That's one of the things I have trouble understanding on this show. How are women able to slap Clark without breaking every bone in their hand. In season 4, Lana slapped Clark( well, lionel since he was in Clark's body) and her hand was perfect. Now Lois slaps him and she's just fine. How is that possible? It's not like their hitting him soft. Their hitting him hard. So their hands should be broken or injured.
NotTodayPete
01-14-2007, 06:48 AM
Okay, so if you slapped a padded (skin) brick wall it would break bones in your hand?
you would have to powerfully punch it close fisted or even back handed to break anything.
smallvillecrazygurl04
01-14-2007, 09:41 AM
I think the reason why Lois slapped Clark was because she knew that Oliver was right there in front of them. So to make it as if she was caught off guard with the kiss, basically she smacked him to make it look good. That's what I think.
HalJordan4184
01-14-2007, 12:05 PM
As others have pointed out, just because something is dense, doesn't mean it's going to break every bone in your hand by hitting it. It's about the amount of force applied, and over what area, and whether it's direct, or indirect, and a ton of other variables. If i take a running swing at Clark, and he just stands there and lets me hit him, yeah, I'll probably break my hand. However, if he rolls with it, and lets me make slight contact, while he pulls away, it's gonna be far less painful for me.
Likewise, a slap is a slap. If I slap a brick wall, it might sting, but that's about it. I'll hardly shatter my hand. Add to that the feelings in the heat of the moment, and it'd be perfectly understandable that even if Lana and Lois did hurt their hand a little, they wouldn't notice right away.
Supermau
01-14-2007, 04:23 PM
It's funny, it might seem like we're over-analyzing something small way too much but that's what makes a show fun sometimes.
As for me, I agree with everyone who said that Clark voluntarily moved with the slap so as to sell the idea that the Green Arrow is human. This would then make any impact by Lois considerably less extreme.
Also, I agree with everyone who said that Lois' slap really didn't have any power behind it like a full-on punch would. Thus, it'd be like trying to slap a marble statue. It wouldn't hurt.
I still wished they'd at least have Clark make a mention of it to show that he has to consciously make an effort to hid his Kryptonian biology.
Remember in Superman (2? or 1?) where Clark is outside trying to follow Lois, making him clueless to the world around him, that when he walks out into the street without looking a taxi cab hits him and dents the car, and Clark doesn't even notice and keeps on walking. It's the little things like that that sell me on Superman, not the cliche bullets bouncing off him.
Thanks again to everyone who's posted so far
Tacosupes
01-14-2007, 05:58 PM
If thats the case when she kissed him it should have been like kissing a stone statue. He isnt actually steel hard to the touch. He just cant be hurt. And Lexs half brotherran into clark full force, nmot quite the same as a weak wristed slap or a love tap play punch from Lois.
coco#1
01-14-2007, 08:19 PM
Originally posted by Supermau
Some may say I am being nitpicky, but in all reality I am not.
How can Lois slap Clark without hurting herself as if she had just slapped a concrete pillar? This also happened in season 4 when she punched Clark in the arm for fun.
It's the little things that in the end add up, and when you have "the man of steel" being slapped by a human, it just doesn't figure. I mean, hardcore fans will remember Lex's little brother in season 2 trying to sucker punch Clark while playing basketball and feeling like he just ran into a wall.
Oh well, good episode in all
because he saw it comming and adjusted accordingly.(he moved his head back as her hand hit his face)remember, he sees things that are moving fast at a much slower speed than mear mortals
Saber
01-15-2007, 11:31 AM
I think it’s not paying attention to detail by TPTB. In Transference Lana slapped Clark who was Lionel. Lionel being Clark wouldn’t have pulled away because he is Lionel and you always look at your aggressor in Lionel’s credo.
I don’t think Clark knows how to roll with the punches yet, he doesn’t have enough experience being slapped by woman because unfortunately he only has tunnel vision for Lana. So with that it’s a continuity problem on the show.
ClarksGal
01-15-2007, 02:07 PM
The same way that the football players in Season 4 didn't get hurt when they tackled Clark. Because he made a conscious decison to fall. I think he just makes it a point to give a little when she hits him, so she doesn't get hurt.
cazman_uk
01-15-2007, 03:12 PM
this is a tricky one because you could drop a building on clark and he wouldn't blink.... He's the hardest thing on earth, way touhgher than steel, concrete or anything we have thats structurally sound even with him turning his head she would have definetly felt pain in her hand, a strong stinging broken fingers kind of pain
STFanatic
01-15-2007, 06:11 PM
Originally posted by Supermau
Some may say I am being nitpicky, but in all reality I am not.
How can Lois slap Clark without hurting herself as if she had just slapped a concrete pillar? This also happened in season 4 when she punched Clark in the arm for fun.
It's the little things that in the end add up, and when you have "the man of steel" being slapped by a human, it just doesn't figure. I mean, hardcore fans will remember Lex's little brother in season 2 trying to sucker punch Clark while playing basketball and feeling like he just ran into a wall.
Oh well, good episode in all
It looks like Clark had seen it coming (he does have superspeed) and moved with the slap.
(Link contains spoiler if you haven't seen the episode)
http://s91.photobucket.com/albums/k292/Startrekfanatic/?action=view¤t=TheKiss.flv
Katarite
01-16-2007, 02:46 AM
If I wanted to slap my wall it would sting a bit, but it wouldn't break my hand. The same goes for banging my fists against it. It isn't really about how hard Clark is. It's about how hard a person punches or slaps. I believe Clark control what happens to an extent, but if you think about it, in order for Lois to break her hand against him, she would have to be slapping him hard enough to break something on a normal person. The same goes for Martha banging on his chest. She is probably banging hard enough that it hurts, but not hard enough to break anything.
Liriel
01-16-2007, 05:16 AM
I'm more annoyed she slapped him, after she was the one to kiss him - as far as she knows, all he did was save her - hardly a slapworthy offense.
InLove_with_Chloe
01-16-2007, 05:24 AM
Originally posted by Liriel
I'm more annoyed she slapped him, after she was the one to kiss him - as far as she knows, all he did was save her - hardly a slapworthy offense.
Yes, but she's a lady....
:rolleyes:
ShelbyKent
01-16-2007, 05:39 AM
Originally posted by Liriel
I'm more annoyed she slapped him, after she was the one to kiss him - as far as she knows, all he did was save her - hardly a slapworthy offense.
I think it has something to do with the fact that Clark did not say anything to protest/stop the kiss/declare that he is not Ollie. Instead he proceeded to kiss her back. This would've been a good point for Clark to say "Ollie who?", since the purpose of the plan was to make Lois think that Ollie was not the green arrow. But Clark seemed to be, uhm, otherwise engaged and "the plan" was the furthest thing from his mind for that moment lol!
hedi sweet thighs
01-16-2007, 06:28 AM
I could not hear what she said before she kissed him.what exactly did she say?
Friendslayer
01-16-2007, 02:07 PM
the end of the arrows was kryptonite.
watch the episode again and watch when clark reaches for a arrow and the end looks like kryptonite.
Thats why lois can slap him like that
STFanatic
01-16-2007, 02:22 PM
The arrow end tips were green plastic.
Clark would have fell to the ground moaning if the ends were Kryptonite.
HalJordan4184
01-16-2007, 02:32 PM
Most of my arrows have ends that look like that. It's a very common color.
SVFan7337
01-16-2007, 03:32 PM
I'm more annoyed she slapped him, after she was the one to kiss him - as far as she knows, all he did was save her - hardly a slapworthy offense.
Originally posted by ShelbyKent
I think it has something to do with the fact that Clark did not say anything to protest/stop the kiss/declare that he is not Ollie. Instead he proceeded to kiss her back. This would've been a good point for Clark to say "Ollie who?", since the purpose of the plan was to make Lois think that Ollie was not the green arrow. But Clark seemed to be, uhm, otherwise engaged and "the plan" was the furthest thing from his mind for that moment lol!
Exactly my thoughts! She slapped him because he obviously was kissing her back in an amazing and intimate manner that she hadn't experienced with Oliver, which is quite a lot of liberty to take when a supposed stranger kisses you and obviously thinks you are someone else.
I also agree with those who say that nitpicking about people not being hurt by hitting Clark is like saying he can't be kissed or high-fived without hurting the person. He's not actually made of steel; otherwise it would hurt to kiss him or even be uncomfortable to hug him--he just can't be injured, that's all.
hedi sweet thighs
01-17-2007, 11:59 AM
He finally unleashed the true feeling s that has been developing for sometime now when he finally kissed her it stunned her because it was as if he has been waiting for it;) I just loved the expression on her face when she felt him kissing her bk:lol:
I can't wait to see ollie response to the kiss;i am sure they weren't prepared for that Ollie looked stunned too
ScoopGirl
01-17-2007, 02:44 PM
Originally posted by ~*Lois & Clark Fan*~
Lois on Lois and Clark slapped Clark once and it didn't hurt her hand.
*shrugs*
Lois also slapped him in Superman: The Animated Series too without hurting her hand. :D
bobser
01-18-2007, 08:24 AM
For the OP, it's the same way Superman doesn't break arms or smash a guys face like a bug when he fights crime.
It's a well known fact that young Clark has learned how to roll his punches and respond instantly to people who take swings at him. He probably matched her hand velocity and rolled his head back in real time.
My question is how in the world can a swallow carry a one pound coconut?! (Kudos for who gets the reference.)
STFanatic
01-18-2007, 09:14 AM
Holy Grail ;)
bobser
01-18-2007, 10:46 PM
Originally posted by STFanatic
Holy Grail ;)
:D
borednow
01-29-2007, 04:40 PM
He also turned his head rather fast with the slap, which I think he did intenionaly to lessen the force back to her.
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