TV Ratings for Subterranean

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Over at NBC, two original episodes of My Name Is Earl averaged an improved 10.06 million viewers with a 4.3/12 among adults 18-49 from 8-9 p.m. Two episodes of Fox’s struggling ‘Til Death (repeat and original) had a slight advantage over the CW’s fading Smallville in total viewers (‘Til Death: 4.81 million, Smallville: 4.48 million). Both were tied among adults 18-49, with a 1.8/ 5 in the demo.

[joesmallville]

I don't know where he got the idea Smallville is "fading"

The show took a few weeks off and I'm sure many didn't have a clue that there was going to be a new episode last night.

The previous episode did 4.7 so I thought that getting a 4.48 was a decent number

[Absentee]

From MediaWeek's Programming Insider:

-Disappointing:
Smallville (CW), Supernatural (CW)

Fourth in the overnights was the CW’s deteriorating Smallville (3.3/ 5). Comparably, Smallville averaged a healthier 4.0/ 6 in the overnights on the WB on the year-ago evening.

- Total overnight viewership 4.48 million

- LINK (http://pifeedback.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/63310451/m/63410232)

[Best Episode - 321]

I agree. After 2 weeks off, I thought the ratings were pretty good.

I expect the ratings to go up after the hiatus too. That preview now has 5 weeks to build up some hype for the second half of the season. Hopefully it works.

[biaaly]

And considering they are showing 4 'Hero' episodes (Run, Cyborg one week, then Arrow, Aqua the next) for the two weeks before Hydro, maybe that'll help, didn't those get good ratings last year?

[tmkfan]

The overnights are awful.

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Here are what the first runs of these episode did.

Run........5.41 mil
Aqua.......6.4 mil
Cyborg.....6.24 Mil
Arrow......4.71 mil

Will they drawn in viewers again? Hopefully!!

[biaaly]

It sucks that they had to move to the CW, I mean look at the difference between season 5 and 6!! Is it because not everyone who had the WB has the CW??

[tmkfan]

No. Its because the show sucks now. :)

[Smallvillerox24]

Wow I didnt think that there was that many people who actually watched the show. SWEET!

[biaaly]

I really don't believe that its because the show sucks, I mean thats almost 1.5 million viewer difference (I suck at math LOL)... so it can't be that drastic a change just because certain people think it sucks.. it has to be cause of networks...

[tmkfan]

Why? OTH, VM, ANTM, theyre all doing better.

Really guys, if you see last years ratings after Reckoning, they sucked back then too.

[biaaly]

Doesn't seem like it to me... Cyborg was after Reckoning wasn't it? And it had above 6Mil... Run which was before it had above 5Mil, so the ratings went up after Reckoning.

Oh well.

[metsfan87]

i know it definitley is because of the CW, they don't reach a lot of people they said in an article i believe in tv guide a couple of weeks ago that less households have the CW compared to having the WB last year. All the UPN shows are doing better while the WB shows have worse ratings. Look at 7th heaven too their ratings are worse than last year. The only one of the WB shows that are doing beter is one tree hill

[lexs&os]

I think in part is because of the two week gap - it could've worked for or against them. The *other* shows (UBetty etc) had new episodes on Thanksgiving and last week, by this week *people* aren't expecting to see new episodes (besides the ones that run through the hiatus - 24, The Closer, and Monk and Dead Zone to some extent - not through winter hiatus, but spring). Again - it could've worked in their favor if they advertised more and maybe showed the episodes the week after Thanksgiving if they weren't going to show them the week of Thanksgiving.

I also understood it that the CW didn't reach as many as WB also -so really, the numbers should be based on how many viewers the CW actually reaches and not such a general number -more people get FOX than they do CW.

Their advertising department could do with some tuning too.....

[Absentee]

The word "detoriorating" was used for a reason. They even compared the episode airing around this time from last season, it was said to be "Healthy."

It's not about the CW reaching as much viewers as the WB did, if that was the case then why is it that ANTM is hitting the 5.5+ million mark? Why is OTH is doing alot better than it did when it was still The WB?

Fact is, people are not tuning in and those ratings reflects that.

[YankeesSuck311]

also, this wasn't advertised that much, it was considered a filler, the trailer didnt make it look like it was a big episode. last year the 9th episode followed the same form with a three week break from solitude. but that episode was Lexmas, it was a holiday episode it fit in more witht he timing and it was a lot better than this one, and makes sense that it attracted more viewers, if the ratings dont go up for episodes 10-13 which sound amazing, then theres some problems

[Farm_Girl]

Okay, this is worst. I hope Hydro repairs the damage that has been done!

[InLove_with_Chloe]

Let's not over-interpret that.
It's almost christmas, there was a 2-week break before 'sub' and there will be almost a month afterwards, no one is fading...

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Final Ratings Thursday Dec 7th

Smallville 4.31 million, 1.7/5 (18-49 share), 1.8/5 (25-54 share)

Rating Link (http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showthread.php?t=189357)


Season 6 Week-to-Week Comparison

9/28 Zod.....................4.96 million*
10/05 Sneeze...............4.52*
10/12 Wither................4.88*
10/19 Arrow.................4.71*
10/26 Reunion..............4.79*
11/02 Fallout................5.01*
11/09 Rage...................4.46*
11/16 Static..................4.70*
12/07 Subterranean........4.31*

* Final ratings

[Absentee]

^Wow.

[warriorrenegade]

Originally posted by Absentee


It's not about the CW reaching as much viewers as the WB did, if that was the case then why is it that ANTM is hitting the 5.5+ million mark? Why is OTH is doing alot better than it did when it was still The WB?



Those shows reach a diffrent demographic than SV. SV is geared towards 18-49 males. While ANTM and OTH are geared towards 18-49 females. Also ANTM was a UPN show, from what I remember UPN was worse off than WB always in last place, ALWAYS. For ANTM to move to the CW would increase its overall viewership, same as all UPN shows. Besides SV lost a key demo 18-49 females, who loved the Clana storyline. They've moved on to OTH , ANTM, Greys Anatomy, even Ugly Betty. Not that Clana was the sole reason, its just one of the reasons.

[InLove_with_Chloe]

Interesting...
Jan/Feb will be interesting then, I guess...

[tmkfan]

LOL, no wonders theyre pimping Clana so much.

[Routh]

Contrary to popular belief, not everyone watches this show solely for Clana.

Which doesn't exist any more. :)

[Pridian]

I think that instead of being one sole problem, there are a few that have caused Smallville to post the lower ratings. It's probably a combination of the 2 week gap, the change of networks, and whatever else you can think up.

[JonStewart4President]

I think the ratings pretty accurately reflect the quality of this episode. There was a reason this thing was buried.

Bad show, bad ratings. Works for me.

[redraven]

I think the drop in ratings was because of the two week break...and because of 'Static'. ;)

[hedi sweet thighs]

I happen to view Subterraean for a second time i have to admit it was pretty good i especially like the end when Lex is collecting his army of freaks from level 33.1.I think that is what he is going to do use these poor experiments of his sinister plan.poor Lana if only she wait on clark to come around she would not have ended up w a belly full of lex (or braniac)As i saw the preview for the next episode she can't give him a anwser yet;because maybe she is having flash bks Clark asked her first.Despite her still loving him he has made so many sacrficies for her (including his beloved father Jonathon.:\

[monstra]

Final ratings..Subterranean......4.3 million viewers.
1.1 million diference from last year

85 Gilmore Girls CW 4.81
86 Justice FOX 4.48
87 Day Break ABC 4.46
88 7th Heaven CW 4.39
89 Smallville CW 4.31
90 One Tree Hill CW 4.24
91 Friday Night Smackdown CW 4.09
92 Reba CW 3.91

I dont know about promotion for GG but look the ratings they got.. and wow, 7th heaven did better this time than SVL.. and OTH, well theyre this close - to sending SVL to the 4th place in the CW.

[hedi sweet thighs]

They may need another stratagy may mean changing bk to wednesday night maybe their anwser; too many good shows are on thursday night.Secondly they may need to pick up the pace w clark and lois relationship it is great to take it slow but when you start slipping,even the best of shows can't seem to recover.I love Smallville i don't want it to become a casualty.;)

[Kryptonian-Ronin]

We have to see how the other shows on the CW are doing this year compared to last year.
If they have the same viewership ( more or less) than the change in stations is not the issue ( at least a big issue).

If Smallville's ratings have fallen more than the other shows ( compared to last year) then the problem is the show, not the change in stations.

[hedi sweet thighs]

I didn't mean station just date, or time i love CW it a cool station i meant that past shows normally mess up when they normally attract a certain age group and not versatile it get caught in a runt.That's what i meant,Tks for replying anyway :\

[darkone]

LMAO 7th Heaven did better.I think they really need Episodes like Hydro,Justice and Crimson next year.

[Barbara]

Originally posted by JonStewart4President
I think the ratings pretty accurately reflect the quality of this episode. There was a reason this thing was buried.

Bad show, bad ratings. Works for me.

Setting aside your opinion of the quality of the show. (I liked it.) I don't follow the logic that the ratings were bad because the show was bad.

How did people know the show would be bad without watching it? There is a slight cause and effect disconnect here.

Ratings go down because of poor promotion or people's loss of interest in the show based on previous shows.

Your comment that the network buried the show because it was bad does not "work for me" either. Networks are in the business of making money. People have to watch their shows to get advertising dollars. No network is going to shoot themselves in the foot by deliberately trying to get viewers not to watch.

[hedi sweet thighs]

I agree w Darkone the last new episodes are pivitol to the shows success or demise.I wouldn't have thought it would come down to this in stead of putting in reruns in the middle of season they should have let it run all new shows than go back to reuns.That was how many of us fans were expecting.I rushed home last night anxious to see a new show than i was disappointed by a repeat. :\

[Naomi]

All of the CW's shows are doing badly compared to the WB ratings. SV is still one of their top-rated shows, and would be considered one of their successes!

The only reason SV did a bit worse with Subterranean is because it was buried amongst repeats, and Static didn't even end with a trailer letting people know there is a new episode before January. I blame the CW's scheduling and their idea of promotion, not the writing.


And ratings did not drop last year after Reckoning :lol: Cybrog for one was one of the highest rated episodes of season 5, and that was after Reckoning ;). It was the hiatus after Cyborg which seemed to lose so many viewers, and again that's down to the network and how they handle their shows.

[Rafael122]

Smallville is in CW's top 5, ratings wise, if not top 3. I'm pretty sure America's Top Model leads the way but Smallville is up there. CW isn't going to cancel a show and lose all that ad revenue, doesn't make sense from a financial perspective.

[jack1487]

Originally posted by Barbara
Setting aside your opinion of the quality of the show. (I liked it.) I don't follow the logic that the ratings were bad because the show was bad.

How did people know the show would be bad without watching it? There is a slight cause and effect disconnect here.

Ratings go down because of poor promotion or people's loss of interest in the show based on previous shows.

Your comment that the network buried the show because it was bad does not "work for me" either. Networks are in the business of making money. People have to watch their shows to get advertising dollars. No network is going to shoot themselves in the foot by deliberately trying to get viewers not to watch.

I agree that they should be promoting the show better. I live in northern California and the only show they are pushing is Dr. Phil, and that's the only add's that are out thier. The marketing department needs to get off of it's a** and start moving and promote this show..

Jack

[Blizzkid]

Originally posted by jack1487
I agree that they should be promoting the show better. I live in northern California and the only show they are pushing is Dr. Phil, and that's the only add's that are out thier. The marketing department needs to get off of it's a** and start moving and promote this show..

Jack

Yeah.. Your average viewer is told what day of the week and what time the show is on and when you throw in a rerun unannounced they don't know what the heck is going on. Did I miss something? Is this season over? Well for alot of people they are done planning a night around "a rerun or not a rerun, that is the question". Honestly right after a episode it should be announced what date a new episode will be coming on. nuff said.