33.1 Survives!

[i luv tom welling]

Finally! I was hoping we'd see it.

[sharksharkk]

that was AWESOME. LEX IS THHHE MAN.

[jimmyolsenblues]

Nice Scene , Bad Episode

[TrevorH]

good set up episode.

[lillie_poo_pod]

I LOVED THAT LAST SCENE!!!

[superhippie2000]

ya that was a nice scene but kind of a junky run down place for level 33.1

[SlickBlonde]

OMG That was the shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. Smallville reaffrims Lex Luther

[D.M.A.]

yea that last scene wit lex walkin was nice,level 33.1 should be real interestin in the 2nd half

[Tia]

completely changed the mood of the episode, loved it, lex is so kick ass

[Krypton935]

I....LOVE....SMALLVILLE!!! THAT WAS SO AWESOME!!!!

[Luthor5339]

Originally posted by D.M.A.
yea that last scene wit lex walkin was nice,level 33.1 should be real interestin in the 2nd half

Definitely, the second half of the season looks like it might be awesome!

Maybe they were saving the best for 'last'

[khufu]

Well, I know what Chloe and Clark are going to be doing for the next several episodes! :)

[chlarklove]

Originally posted by khufu
Well, I know what Chloe and Clark are going to be doing for the next several episodes! :)

*Squee*

*Flail*

That last scene was SO awesome. And the song choice/music was perfect to go along with it.

[xrayvision]

That was a great ending. I wonder what's keeping them from killing him with their powers. I hope we get to see freaks from the past again (Ian, Shawn Kelvin, Eric Summers-though he's not really a freak, and some good guy freaks).

[Charissa70]

I would like to see a system fail and all of them loose all around the Luthor Mansion. I know it would keep clark busy, (would be nice, like with Seattle and he tells Chloe that Lex has to handle it). It would be a great weird power show, but the writers would probably have Lana visiting an art exhibit in Athens or she would believe lex that he had nothing to do with it, it was his father or all Clark's fault. (Lana keeps forgetting that Lex always knew everything that was going on with Luthorcorp like after the first season)

[milton fine]

i knew 33.1 would pop up sooner or later becuse of the whole justice leauge episode coming up,which i hear involves the leauge fight 33.1 freaks

[xrayvision]

It seems like they're setting up for a battle between the krypto freaks and the Justice League. I think instead of considering it too "comic booky" back in season 4, they wanted to save it for when Lex was portrayed to be more evil, and I guess now's the time. Though, I think 33.1 would have blown the witch story back to hell where it belonged.

[Ireallylikethisshow]

That scene was fabulous, but maybe a little overly-done... I mean, how many hands need to reach out and grab you? But, otherwise it was a great scene with real meaning and symbolic ness. Gosh, seems like a place the Lex Luthor from comics would be.

[chole_fan]

First I must say... Yeah for continuity!!!

That said, the last scene saved what was just an okay filler episode and really set the tone for what was to come. Although the entire episode could have been better, I have to give TPTB some credit for the perfect ending. Can't wait for January!

[OliviaB]

As much as I love the Chlark, I'd love the thought of them facing off Lexana even more. I hope this is what they're leading to. No, wait. Send Lana back to Amsterdam. Lex seems to have found his b*lls again....Chlex. Chlarklex?

[lillie_poo_pod]

Originally posted by chole_fan
First I must say... Yeah for continuity!!!



And all this time I thought that word was no where in tptb vocab

[achilles]

Originally posted by jimmyolsenblues
Nice Scene , Bad Episode

Great Episode, great ending. The episode had heart and a lot better than static.

[boywithbluehanger]

Anyone who hates this episode hates majority of Seasons 1 and 2. Because they were filled with filler-esque eppies!

[wraith808]

Originally posted by superhippie2000
ya that was a nice scene but kind of a junky run down place for level 33.1

That's the point. Who would look for it there?

[smallville38]

That ending was great and was set up well too by the scene before it. With Lana questioning Clark's cynicism and all. I was thinking "what another boring episode, meteor freak stopped, Lana still oblivious to everything, Lex kinda bad, but showing some good, yada yada yada".

But that last scene . . . wow. Really nails home how evil, callous and heartless he is. Not that he's walking by all these hands but the experession or lack therof on his face. Great ending that saved the episode from being very mediocre.

The following teaser also helped. Even if the whole justice league idea isn't new, its a fresh twist in smallville. Lana's hesitation also adds to the mix.

[wolfblitzjr]

I wanted to write this yesterday right after i saw the 33.1 subject but i had to create an account and wait for it...So here it goes

Couple episodes ago, maybe last one, Lana i think found out about 33.1 through that teleport frequency guy. Lex's dad took the project and hid it somewhere and would only tell him the coordinates if he agreed to partner with him kinda thing. So you think those two are working together now or is lex gonna just backstab him. That's what my first thought about 33.1 is.

*note* 33.1 is in a different location, so it's prolly not gonna look that safisticated of a place

-wolfblitzjr

[Lostfan588]

Originally posted by OliviaB
As much as I love the Chlark, I'd love the thought of them facing off Lexana even more. I hope this is what they're leading to. No, wait. Send Lana back to Amsterdam. Lex seems to have found his b*lls again....Chlex. Chlarklex?


Chlark vs. Lexana. Oh, it's coming! mwahaha

[Silent Kal]

That final sequence is the best moment of Season Six so far. I would even put that scene ahead of "Kneel before Zod" in my mind. The music, the lighting, the slo-mo, and the look on Lex's face, ending with the slammed 33.1 door. Genius.

*That's* the Smallville quality I became a fan of.

[darkraya]

i loved that scene. it shows that lex lied to everyone wen he said that he didnt know anything about level 33.1. hes becoming the true villan of the story. close up to the superman storyline.

i hate the lexana vs clark thats going on in the show. i wish they could just kill her off or something . lana is not thinking by herself , lex does everything to drag her deeper in the dark side.

[wraith808]

We already knew that Lex knew about 33.1- he had a talk with Lionel about it, because Lionel moved it while he was gone.

[dave73085]

shoot, Lex knew about 33.1 back in Season 4 when he locked up Mxy there

[jazzylg]

True. Lex is the man. The saving grace for this ep was the last scene, as it had a feature film like quality(take notes bryan singer)

[margroks]

SO here we have proof positive that Lex is Teh Evil once again. The man is capturing, experimenting on and torturing people in 33.1. These are not the actions of a nice guy trying to do the right thing. Lex is the villain of the piece NOW. There is no way to paint this in a nice light.

[LittleJerryPecks]

can anybody make a list of the freaks that Lex as been collecting. I remember Mxylplck being sent there in season 4, but thats really it.

[xrayvision]

Originally posted by LittleJerryPecks
can anybody make a list of the freaks that Lex as been collecting. I remember Mxylplck being sent there in season 4, but thats really it.

Well there are a few categories of freaks/33.1 inmates. There are the good ones who didn't use their powers to hurt. Out of these, there are some that lost their powers, others that still have their powers and are fine, and some that may still have their powers and are in a coma. Then there are the ones that did harm. Out of these, there are ones that are in comas, ones that are not in comas, and ones that lost their powers.

Now I will list some:

Good/Misguided ones who lost their power and/or were going to be helped by Lex/Luthorcorp:

-Jeremy Creek (Pilot): he may be a special one for Lex since Lex saw him as a kid during the meteor shower that caused him to lose his hair.

-Jody Melville (Craving): I'm guessing she lost her weight losing power after the kryptonite left her system. Since she was affected by the kryptonite only when she ingested it, I would actually classify her as a non-freak. I doubt she will be in 33.1.

-Earl Jenkins (Jitters): Luthorcorp was going to care for him. It was said in the Chloe Chronicles that he died, but this would be a perfect guy to be found in 33.1. Lex obviously started 33.1 a while back since it was already set up and functioning back in season 4's Jinx.

-Lana Lang (Obscura): How great would it be if Lex were to trap her in 33.1. Now this would be a great way to show how evil Lex is. I highly advise them to do this when Lana decides to leave him. I would first have him do a blackmail scheme using evidence he kept of her murder of Genevieve Teague to "persuade" her not to leave. Then once Chloe, Clark, and Pete (if he would return) neutralize Lex's blackmail scheme with one of their own where they threaten him with evidence of his involvement in the coverup of Bridget Crosby's murder, having nothing else to resort to, Lex would take Lana hostage in 33.1.

-Byron Moore (Nocturne): We know Luthorcorp was going to care for him. A perfect reason to have him in 33.1 as the subject of an experiment.

-Jordan Cross (Hereafter): He lost his powers, but Lex may be interested in finding out about the deaths of people, even himself. This would be a way to continue and get answers he never got before Cassandra Carver died in Hourglass. I would think he would be someone held against his will who wouldn't want to help Lex.

-Chloe Sullivan (Truth): She could be taken hostage if she gets too close to finding out what Lex is up to in one of her investigations. If not her, Lex can always test the Levitas drug to create another freak with powers to reveal the truth from others.

-Kara/Lindsay Harrison (Covenant): Her car was hit directly by a meteor and she was saved by Jor-El. She disappeared in Covenant, but since Jor-El really is a good guy, he probably didn't kill her but instead teleported her somewhere. If Chloe was able to find out about her, then I'm sure so can Lex. It would be great having her in 33.1.

-Abigail Fine (Facade): She lost her powers & I doubt Lex would want to use someone whose powers make people see ugly versions of themselves in the mirror. So, she's not a likely candidate.

-Shelby (Krypto, recurring ever since): Clark's dog would be something Lex would be interested in if for nothing else just for the pscyhological factor of hurting Clark. Plus, Shelby was Luthorcorp's before he was Clark's so this may be something else. Shelby getting killed because of Lex's experiments would definitely increase Clark's hatred of Lex.


Good/Misguided ones who are in a coma:

-Cyrus Krupp (Visitor): It would be easy for Lex to take him in his coma state. Lex may need a healer in his army. I would like Clark to find him there & save him from Lex.

-Jeremiah Holdsclaw (Talisman): Not a freak, but perhaps someone Lex can want to use in experiments for serums that give superhuman powers as shown in Sneeze.


Good ones who are/were out in the world with their powers:

-Kyle Tippett (Hug): I always wanted to see him return. Lex knows that Kyle escaped and may consider him as a great asset. He may be one who is held against his will who Clark has to free.

-Sarah Conroy (Slumber): Not sure if she lost her powers, but a freak who can keep people in their dreams is something that would appeal to Lex.

-Bart Allen (Run): Not a freak, but some special feature of the season 5 DVD's say that he is being held in 33.1. I think he will be an escapee of 33.1 because we know he returns from that preview clip after Subterranean. So a likely candidate, but one who will escape & join the JLA.

-Kevin Grady (Blank): Lex may want to hold him to duplicate his memory wipe powers. I don't think he'd help Lex, but it would be interesting seeing him return as a prisoner held against his will.

-Arthur Curry (Aqua): Not a kryptonite freak, but Lex could have caught up with him and taken him prisoner like Bart. He may have to be freed by Clark. I'm not sure how else Clark will find him since he doesn't have a contact # or email where Clark could reach him, so I think the way Clark will find him & team up with him to join the JLA is by rescuing him from 33.1.

-Angel of Vengeance (Vengeance): She was also supposedly trapped in 33.1 according to that special on the season 5 DVDs. It's possible that Clark could find her there. I think we could likely see her.

-Victor Stone (Cyborg): He was held back by Lex & Dr. Krieg. So Lex knows all about him, plus he invested millions into the bionics in his body. It's possible that his eminent return which we know will happen is due to Clark rescuing him from 33.1.

-Maddie Van Horn (Fragile): She could be held by Lex against her will just like Dr. Garner did with Ryan, but I don't think this will happen. I think if anyone, her father Tyler McKnight will be taken by Lex since he was in custody already at Belle Reve.

-Tyler McKnight (Fragile): Maddie's father could be a great member of Lex's army. He no longer has access to his daughter, so being a part of 33.1 would be his shot at revenge against Clark.


Evil ones who are still alive and/or we know Lex was involved in their capture/disappearance:

-Jeff Palmer (Shimmer): Lex may want revenge because he KO'd Lex twice in Shimmer. Plus, he may want an invisible freak in his army.

-Eric Summers (Leech & Asylum): Maybe a freak, maybe not (they never explained if he had the power to steal powers while using kryptonite & electricity or if this is something that anyone can do). Either way, Lex could think he has powers and would definitely want to hold him for what he did in Asylum, if he remembers any of that. They should definitely have him in 33.1.

-Derek Fox & Scott Bowman (Kinetic): These are Wade Mahaney's friends from Kinetic. They were taken into custody and Lex said they weren't the only ones who can reach through bars as a threat. If anyone is in 33.1, these guys should definitely be it.

-Justin Gaines (Crush): A great freak to have. A freak with TK would be great for Lex's army. But I heard the guy who plays him is a regular on another show, so chances are he won't be there.

-Desiree Atkins (Heat): Lex getting revenge against his first ex-wife in 33.1 is something that would make complete sense.

-Eric Marsh & his 2 friends (Witness): They were not freaks, but we know Lex knows of their capture and would have a beef with them. They could be part of an experiment where Lex can permanently give them powers of strength that do not wear off.

-Molly Griggs (Delete): Not a freak, but I heard that there is a special on the season 5 with her, the angel of vengeance, and other 33.1 inmates. Plus we know Lex was going to "help" her.

-Mikail Mxyzptlk (Jinx): We know he was taken to 33.1. It's just a matter of them bringing the actor back. A likely candidate.

-Tim Westcott (Pariah): He's still alive & with powers. His power would be useful for breaking & entering into places, so Lex could use him for this, plus for the psychological factor that he killed Clark's ex-wife Alicia.

-Geoff Johns (Recruit): A freak with paralysis powers would be perfect for Lex's army. A good candidate.

-Lee & the Twins (Mortal): We know Lex promised them more serum if they would send Clark to level 3 so that Lex can spy if he has any abilities. These 3 should definitely be in 33.1.

-Vampire sorority girls (Thirst): I doubt Lex would want a bunch of vampires in his army, so I don't think we'll see them in 33.1. They were supposedly cured anyway. Maybe Lex might use the disease, though I don't see any uses that would help him. They might just turn against the rest of his army & I think Smallville & vampires are done.

-Jed McNally (Subterranean): We know he is the latest freak and was taken back to 33.1. Based on what he did, I'm not sure Lex would want to release him again. But his powers are something that would help Lex out.


Evil ones who may or may not be dead, but Lex could have tracked them down:

-Greg Arkin (Metamorphosis): TPTB in the commentary said that he split into a bunch of bugs so that he may return one day. Plus, Lex may have tracked him down since he attacked Lana. I could sense a good story here to cause Lexana tension.

-Shawn Kelvin (Cool): He was trapped in frozen water behind the Luthor mansion. Lex may be getting revenge for the damage he caused to his mansion by experimenting on him.

-Dr. Hamilton (Craving, Nicodemus, Obscura & Duplicity): Not really a freak, but infected like Earl Jenkins. He was gone before Lex & Lionel arrived at his barn, so where did he go? The cops had not yet arrived since there was no police tape. He could have been seeking protection by Lex and gone to 33.1 either as a subject, as a doctor since he was the main guy at Cadmus Labs, or maybe as both. Then again Cadmus Labs could have been the start of 33.1 or they could be one & the same. Ever wonder why Lex was against selling when Lionel told him it's time to dump it because they only acquired it to trick Sir Harry into buying it? I'm sure level 33.1 started there.

-Ian Randall (Dichotic & Asylum): If Eric's punch/hit didn't kill him, he would also be a great freak to have in 33.1. He worked over Lex quite a bit and Lex would definitely want to hold him. Plus he hates Clark, so Lex could always use his hatred.

-Emily Dinsmore clone (Accelerate & Forsaken): I'm sure Lex found out where Lionel was keeping her once he took control of Luthorcorp. That is if he didn't have her killed. Or she may have aged so much that she is too old to be in his army, or perhaps dead. If this wasn't the case, I'd say she would be a good 33.1 candidate.


Evil ones who lost their powers:

-Sasha Woodman (Drone): I doubt she would appear. I don't think Lex has a use for a freak who can control bees.


Evil freaks & non-freaks who are/were in a coma:

-Seth Nelson (Magnetic): A freak with magnetic powers would also appeal to Lex. Plus he controlled Lana, so Lex may want to keep an eye on him. A likely candidate.

-Dr. Garner (Ryan, Delete & Memoria): Not a freak, but Lex could always try using kryptonite to revive him from his coma. Or perhaps he could have since mutated into a freak due to all his exposure to the kryptonite in the tank at Summerholt. A good candidate to be revived by one of Lex's 33.1 experiments so that we can have a great Summerholt story in season 7 with Chloe's & Lionel's brains being probed for information by Lex & Garner.


Evil non-freaks who Lex would want to keep quiet or get revenge against & can experiment on in 33.1:

-Roy Rothman (Zero): Lex would not want the real story behind the Zero Consequences coverup he told Roy about to get out in the open, so keeping him in 33.1 as a lab rat would be a likely thing.

-Samantha Drake (Fanatic): Seeing how devoted to Lex she was, she may be a great person for Lex to experiment on.

-Officer Greg Flynn & Deputy Harris (Lockdown): Based on what they know of the ship, Lex may want to kill 2 birds with 1 stone by experimenting on them & making sure they don't talk to anyone else like Oliver Queen.


Dead freaks that have no chance of appearing in 33.1:

-Coach Walt (Hothead)

-Tina Greer (X-Ray & Visage)

-Cassandra Carver (Hourglass)

-Bob Rickman (Hug)

-Wade Mahaney (Kinetic)

-Ryan James (Stray & Ryan)

-Tyler Randall (Reaper)

-Chrissy Parker (Redux)

-Kyla Willowbrook (Skinwalker)

-Jake Palmer (Extinction)

-Nathan Dean (Whisper)

-Alicia Baker (Obsession, Unsafe & Pariah)

-Trent (Gone)

-Dawn Stiles (Spirit)

-Karen Gallagher (Ageless)

-Evan (Ageless)

-Brendan Nash (Forever)

-Col. Duncan (Hidden)

-Graham Garrett (Fade)

-Duncan Allenmeyer (Reunion)

-Bronson (Static)


To sum it up, these are the freaks and/or kryptonite infected people I think should definitely appear in 33.1:

Kryptonite Freaks:
-Jeremy Creek (Pilot)
-Greg Arkin (Metamorphosis)
-Kyle Tippett (Hug)
-Desiree Atkins (Heat)
-Byron Moore (Nocturne)
-Ian Randall (Dichotic & Asylum)
-Cyrus Krupp (Visitor)
-Sarah Conroy (Slumber)
-Seth Nelson (Magnetic)
-Jordan Cross (Hereafter)
-Kara/Lindsay Harrison (Covenant)
-Tim Westcott (Pariah)
-Geoff Johns (Recruit)
-Kevin Grady (Blank)
-Lee & the Twins (Mortal)
-Tyler McKnight (Fragile)
-Jed McNally (Subterranean)

Non-Freaks who were affected by kryptonite with effects that wore off:
-Dr. Hamilton (Craving, Nicodemus, Obscura & Duplicity)
-Earl Jenkins (Jitters)
-Jeff Palmer (Shimmer)
-Eric Summers (Leech & Asylum)
-Derek Fox & Scott Bowman (Kinetic)
-Lana Lang (Obscura)
-Eric Marsh & his 2 friends (Witness)
-Chloe Sullivan or other Levitas infected person (Truth)
-Shelby (Krypto, recurring ever since)

Non-freaks who Lex would want to store away from the public for 1 reason or another:
-Roy Rothman (Zero)
-Samantha Drake (Fanatic)
-Officer Greg Flynn & Deputy Harris (Lockdown)
-Molly Griggs (Delete)
-Dr. Garner (Ryan, Delete & Memoria)
-Jeremiah Holdsclaw (Talisman)
-Bart Allen (Run)
-Mikail Mxyzptlk (Jinx)
-Arthur Curry (Aqua)
-Angel of Vengeance (Vengeance)
-Victor Stone (Cyborg)

[lillie_poo_pod]

^ WOW that's A LOT of freaks

[Heilige]

Originally posted by xrayvision
Well there are a few categories of freaks/33.1 inmates. There are the good ones who didn't use their powers to hurt. Out of these, there are some that lost their powers, others that still have their powers and are fine, and some that may still have their powers and are in a coma. Then there are the ones that did harm. Out of these, there are ones that are in comas, ones that are not in comas, and ones that lost their powers.

Now I will list some:

Good/Misguided ones who lost their power and/or were going to be helped by Lex/Luthorcorp:

-Jeremy Creek (Pilot): he may be a special one for Lex since Lex saw him as a kid during the meteor shower that caused him to lose his hair.

-Jody Melville (Craving): I'm guessing she lost her weight losing power after the kryptonite left her system. Since she was affected by the kryptonite only when she ingested it, I would actually classify her as a non-freak. I doubt she will be in 33.1.

-Earl Jenkins (Jitters): Luthorcorp was going to care for him. It was said in the Chloe Chronicles that he died, but this would be a perfect guy to be found in 33.1. Lex obviously started 33.1 a while back since it was already set up and functioning back in season 4's Jinx.

-Lana Lang (Obscura): How great would it be if Lex were to trap her in 33.1. Now this would be a great way to show how evil Lex is. I highly advise them to do this when Lana decides to leave him. I would first have him do a blackmail scheme using evidence he kept of her murder of Genevieve Teague to "persuade" her not to leave. Then once Chloe, Clark, and Pete (if he would return) neutralize Lex's blackmail scheme with one of their own where they threaten him with evidence of his involvement in the coverup of Bridget Crosby's murder, having nothing else to resort to, Lex would take Lana hostage in 33.1.

-Byron Moore (Nocturne): We know Luthorcorp was going to care for him. A perfect reason to have him in 33.1 as the subject of an experiment.

-Jordan Cross (Hereafter): He lost his powers, but Lex may be interested in finding out about the deaths of people, even himself. This would be a way to continue and get answers he never got before Cassandra Carver died in Hourglass. I would think he would be someone held against his will who wouldn't want to help Lex.

-Chloe Sullivan (Truth): She could be taken hostage if she gets too close to finding out what Lex is up to in one of her investigations. If not her, Lex can always test the Levitas drug to create another freak with powers to reveal the truth from others.

-Kara/Lindsay Harrison (Covenant): Her car was hit directly by a meteor and she was saved by Jor-El. She disappeared in Covenant, but since Jor-El really is a good guy, he probably didn't kill her but instead teleported her somewhere. If Chloe was able to find out about her, then I'm sure so can Lex. It would be great having her in 33.1.

-Abigail Fine (Facade): She lost her powers & I doubt Lex would want to use someone whose powers make people see ugly versions of themselves in the mirror. So, she's not a likely candidate.

-Shelby (Krypto, recurring ever since): Clark's dog would be something Lex would be interested in if for nothing else just for the pscyhological factor of hurting Clark. Plus, Shelby was Luthorcorp's before he was Clark's so this may be something else. Shelby getting killed because of Lex's experiments would definitely increase Clark's hatred of Lex.


Good/Misguided ones who are in a coma:

-Cyrus Krupp (Visitor): It would be easy for Lex to take him in his coma state. Lex may need a healer in his army. I would like Clark to find him there & save him from Lex.

-Jeremiah Holdsclaw (Talisman): Not a freak, but perhaps someone Lex can want to use in experiments for serums that give superhuman powers as shown in Sneeze.


Good ones who are/were out in the world with their powers:

-Kyle Tippett (Hug): I always wanted to see him return. Lex knows that Kyle escaped and may consider him as a great asset. He may be one who is held against his will who Clark has to free.

-Sarah Conroy (Slumber): Not sure if she lost her powers, but a freak who can keep people in their dreams is something that would appeal to Lex.

-Bart Allen (Run): Not a freak, but some special feature of the season 5 DVD's say that he is being held in 33.1. I think he will be an escapee of 33.1 because we know he returns from that preview clip after Subterranean. So a likely candidate, but one who will escape & join the JLA.

-Kevin Grady (Blank): Lex may want to hold him to duplicate his memory wipe powers. I don't think he'd help Lex, but it would be interesting seeing him return as a prisoner held against his will.

-Arthur Curry (Aqua): Not a kryptonite freak, but Lex could have caught up with him and taken him prisoner like Bart. He may have to be freed by Clark. I'm not sure how else Clark will find him since he doesn't have a contact # or email where Clark could reach him, so I think the way Clark will find him & team up with him to join the JLA is by rescuing him from 33.1.

-Angel of Vengeance (Vengeance): She was also supposedly trapped in 33.1 according to that special on the season 5 DVDs. It's possible that Clark could find her there. I think we could likely see her.

-Victor Stone (Cyborg): He was held back by Lex & Dr. Krieg. So Lex knows all about him, plus he invested millions into the bionics in his body. It's possible that his eminent return which we know will happen is due to Clark rescuing him from 33.1.

-Maddie Van Horn (Fragile): She could be held by Lex against her will just like Dr. Garner did with Ryan, but I don't think this will happen. I think if anyone, her father Tyler McKnight will be taken by Lex since he was in custody already at Belle Reve.

-Tyler McKnight (Fragile): Maddie's father could be a great member of Lex's army. He no longer has access to his daughter, so being a part of 33.1 would be his shot at revenge against Clark.


Evil ones who are still alive and/or we know Lex was involved in their capture/disappearance:

-Jeff Palmer (Shimmer): Lex may want revenge because he KO'd Lex twice in Shimmer. Plus, he may want an invisible freak in his army.

-Eric Summers (Leech & Asylum): Maybe a freak, maybe not (they never explained if he had the power to steal powers while using kryptonite & electricity or if this is something that anyone can do). Either way, Lex could think he has powers and would definitely want to hold him for what he did in Asylum, if he remembers any of that. They should definitely have him in 33.1.

-Derek Fox & Scott Bowman (Kinetic): These are Wade Mahaney's friends from Kinetic. They were taken into custody and Lex said they weren't the only ones who can reach through bars as a threat. If anyone is in 33.1, these guys should definitely be it.

-Justin Gaines (Crush): A great freak to have. A freak with TK would be great for Lex's army. But I heard the guy who plays him is a regular on another show, so chances are he won't be there.

-Desiree Atkins (Heat): Lex getting revenge against his first ex-wife in 33.1 is something that would make complete sense.

-Eric Marsh & his 2 friends (Witness): They were not freaks, but we know Lex knows of their capture and would have a beef with them. They could be part of an experiment where Lex can permanently give them powers of strength that do not wear off.

-Molly Griggs (Delete): Not a freak, but I heard that there is a special on the season 5 with her, the angel of vengeance, and other 33.1 inmates. Plus we know Lex was going to "help" her.

-Mikail Mxyzptlk (Jinx): We know he was taken to 33.1. It's just a matter of them bringing the actor back. A likely candidate.

-Tim Westcott (Pariah): He's still alive & with powers. His power would be useful for breaking & entering into places, so Lex could use him for this, plus for the psychological factor that he killed Clark's ex-wife Alicia.

-Geoff Johns (Recruit): A freak with paralysis powers would be perfect for Lex's army. A good candidate.

-Lee & the Twins (Mortal): We know Lex promised them more serum if they would send Clark to level 3 so that Lex can spy if he has any abilities. These 3 should definitely be in 33.1.

-Vampire sorority girls (Thirst): I doubt Lex would want a bunch of vampires in his army, so I don't think we'll see them in 33.1. They were supposedly cured anyway. Maybe Lex might use the disease, though I don't see any uses that would help him. They might just turn against the rest of his army & I think Smallville & vampires are done.

-Jed McNally (Subterranean): We know he is the latest freak and was taken back to 33.1. Based on what he did, I'm not sure Lex would want to release him again. But his powers are something that would help Lex out.


Evil ones who may or may not be dead, but Lex could have tracked them down:

-Greg Arkin (Metamorphosis): TPTB in the commentary said that he split into a bunch of bugs so that he may return one day. Plus, Lex may have tracked him down since he attacked Lana. I could sense a good story here to cause Lexana tension.

-Shawn Kelvin (Cool): He was trapped in frozen water behind the Luthor mansion. Lex may be getting revenge for the damage he caused to his mansion by experimenting on him.

-Dr. Hamilton (Craving, Nicodemus, Obscura & Duplicity): Not really a freak, but infected like Earl Jenkins. He was gone before Lex & Lionel arrived at his barn, so where did he go? The cops had not yet arrived since there was no police tape. He could have been seeking protection by Lex and gone to 33.1 either as a subject, as a doctor since he was the main guy at Cadmus Labs, or maybe as both. Then again Cadmus Labs could have been the start of 33.1 or they could be one & the same. Ever wonder why Lex was against selling when Lionel told him it's time to dump it because they only acquired it to trick Sir Harry into buying it? I'm sure level 33.1 started there.

-Ian Randall (Dichotic & Asylum): If Eric's punch/hit didn't kill him, he would also be a great freak to have in 33.1. He worked over Lex quite a bit and Lex would definitely want to hold him. Plus he hates Clark, so Lex could always use his hatred.

-Emily Dinsmore clone (Accelerate & Forsaken): I'm sure Lex found out where Lionel was keeping her once he took control of Luthorcorp. That is if he didn't have her killed. Or she may have aged so much that she is too old to be in his army, or perhaps dead. If this wasn't the case, I'd say she would be a good 33.1 candidate.


Evil ones who lost their powers:

-Sasha Woodman (Drone): I doubt she would appear. I don't think Lex has a use for a freak who can control bees.


Evil freaks & non-freaks who are/were in a coma:

-Seth Nelson (Magnetic): A freak with magnetic powers would also appeal to Lex. Plus he controlled Lana, so Lex may want to keep an eye on him. A likely candidate.

-Dr. Garner (Ryan, Delete & Memoria): Not a freak, but Lex could always try using kryptonite to revive him from his coma. Or perhaps he could have since mutated into a freak due to all his exposure to the kryptonite in the tank at Summerholt. A good candidate to be revived by one of Lex's 33.1 experiments so that we can have a great Summerholt story in season 7 with Chloe's & Lionel's brains being probed for information by Lex & Garner.


Evil non-freaks who Lex would want to keep quiet or get revenge against & can experiment on in 33.1:

-Roy Rothman (Zero): Lex would not want the real story behind the Zero Consequences coverup he told Roy about to get out in the open, so keeping him in 33.1 as a lab rat would be a likely thing.

-Samantha Drake (Fanatic): Seeing how devoted to Lex she was, she may be a great person for Lex to experiment on.

-Officer Greg Flynn & Deputy Harris (Lockdown): Based on what they know of the ship, Lex may want to kill 2 birds with 1 stone by experimenting on them & making sure they don't talk to anyone else like Oliver Queen.


Dead freaks that have no chance of appearing in 33.1:

-Coach Walt (Hothead)

-Tina Greer (X-Ray & Visage)

-Cassandra Carver (Hourglass)

-Bob Rickman (Hug)

-Wade Mahaney (Kinetic)

-Ryan James (Stray & Ryan)

-Tyler Randall (Reaper)

-Chrissy Parker (Redux)

-Kyla Willowbrook (Skinwalker)

-Jake Palmer (Extinction)

-Nathan Dean (Whisper)

-Alicia Baker (Obsession, Unsafe & Pariah)

-Trent (Gone)

-Dawn Stiles (Spirit)

-Karen Gallagher (Ageless)

-Evan (Ageless)

-Brendan Nash (Forever)

-Col. Duncan (Hidden)

-Graham Garrett (Fade)

-Duncan Allenmeyer (Reunion)

-Bronson (Static)


To sum it up, these are the freaks and/or kryptonite infected people I think should definitely appear in 33.1:

Kryptonite Freaks:
-Jeremy Creek (Pilot)
-Greg Arkin (Metamorphosis)
-Kyle Tippett (Hug)
-Desiree Atkins (Heat)
-Byron Moore (Nocturne)
-Ian Randall (Dichotic & Asylum)
-Cyrus Krupp (Visitor)
-Sarah Conroy (Slumber)
-Seth Nelson (Magnetic)
-Jordan Cross (Hereafter)
-Kara/Lindsay Harrison (Covenant)
-Tim Westcott (Pariah)
-Geoff Johns (Recruit)
-Kevin Grady (Blank)
-Lee & the Twins (Mortal)
-Tyler McKnight (Fragile)
-Jed McNally (Subterranean)

Non-Freaks who were affected by kryptonite with effects that wore off:
-Dr. Hamilton (Craving, Nicodemus, Obscura & Duplicity)
-Earl Jenkins (Jitters)
-Jeff Palmer (Shimmer)
-Eric Summers (Leech & Asylum)
-Derek Fox & Scott Bowman (Kinetic)
-Lana Lang (Obscura)
-Eric Marsh & his 2 friends (Witness)
-Chloe Sullivan or other Levitas infected person (Truth)
-Shelby (Krypto, recurring ever since)

Non-freaks who Lex would want to store away from the public for 1 reason or another:
-Roy Rothman (Zero)
-Samantha Drake (Fanatic)
-Officer Greg Flynn & Deputy Harris (Lockdown)
-Molly Griggs (Delete)
-Dr. Garner (Ryan, Delete & Memoria)
-Jeremiah Holdsclaw (Talisman)
-Bart Allen (Run)
-Mikail Mxyzptlk (Jinx)
-Arthur Curry (Aqua)
-Angel of Vengeance (Vengeance)
-Victor Stone (Cyborg)

How did you remeber all that?

[s_q]

Ofcourse my questions would be answered in the nextcouple of episodes, but what i need to know:

1) Most of the meteor freaks have immense powers to break out of that cell we saw in subterranean, so why werent they able to get out? I mean...it looked kinda weak. Waiting for next episode to show if they were strung on to something etc etc

2) Mostly know who/what Clark is all about, considering Lex's obsession with Clark, wouldnt they have told Lex already about Clarks powers?

3) I know you'll all say, they dont remember anything, but if they didnt..how did that dude from static remember what happened to him in the past?

4) If hes breeding kryptonian freaks, any way possible that Lex has experimented some on himself, and has become invulnerable? Because hes really not scared of the freaks. It takes a lot more than being just rich and powerful to control something that is indestructible by a mere human. Wonder if the pilot and how the meteor affected him has to do something with this 33.1. Im sure he must stress the fact about prdocuing more white blood cells in his body which kinda heals the body faster or something?

[xrayvision]

Originally posted by s_q
Ofcourse my questions would be answered in the nextcouple of episodes, but what i need to know:

1) Most of the meteor freaks have immense powers to break out of that cell we saw in subterranean, so why werent they able to get out? I mean...it looked kinda weak. Waiting for next episode to show if they were strung on to something etc etc

2) Mostly know who/what Clark is all about, considering Lex's obsession with Clark, wouldnt they have told Lex already about Clarks powers?

3) I know you'll all say, they dont remember anything, but if they didnt..how did that dude from static remember what happened to him in the past?

4) If hes breeding kryptonian freaks, any way possible that Lex has experimented some on himself, and has become invulnerable? Because hes really not scared of the freaks. It takes a lot more than being just rich and powerful to control something that is indestructible by a mere human. Wonder if the pilot and how the meteor affected him has to do something with this 33.1. Im sure he must stress the fact about prdocuing more white blood cells in his body which kinda heals the body faster or something?

I was about to mention your 2nd point in my post above, but got tired from posting all that stuff.

But you make great points. I guess we'll have to wait. Eric Summers definitely remembers about Clark. I don't know if he's keeping freaks from the past or creating new freaks and is somehow implanting things in them (like a chip or something else) that controls them or gives them a weakness if they plan to have a mutiny.


Originally posted by Heilige
How did you remeber all that?

I basically looked at an episode list and recalled all the freaks I could remember.

[thedarknight]

LOL Eric Summers is Jimmy's brother, so I don't think he'll be there. I think they'll be majority of new freaks rather than old ones.

[last man of krypton]

Originally posted by s_q
1) Most of the meteor freaks have immense powers to break out of that cell we saw in subterranean, so why werent they able to get out? I mean...it looked kinda weak. Waiting for next episode to show if they were strung on to something etc etc

Most of the freaks also had some kind of weakness, or retained some of their human vulnerabilities. So a steel jail would be fine for holding most of them, and specially designed prisons for the others.


Originally posted by s_q
2) Mostly know who/what Clark is all about, considering Lex's obsession with Clark, wouldnt they have told Lex already about Clarks powers?

Possibly they want to keep their revenge for themselves, instead of Lex bringing down Clark himself. Possibly.


Originally posted by s_q
4) If hes breeding kryptonian freaks, any way possible that Lex has experimented some on himself, and has become invulnerable? Because hes really not scared of the freaks. It takes a lot more than being just rich and powerful to control something that is indestructible by a mere human. Wonder if the pilot and how the meteor affected him has to do something with this 33.1. Im sure he must stress the fact about prdocuing more white blood cells in his body which kinda heals the body faster or something?

Lex already feels untouchable to some degree; he boasted of beating malaria in Season 3 and surviving a poison that would've killed 99% of people in Season 4. Not to mention he was able to stop Aquaman, and is capable of holding all these freaks. So perhaps he feels that he doesn't need to make himself stronger, and gets a greater satisfaction of beating the superhumans by being a regular human (akin to the motivations of Lex in the comics)

[superg21]

so Mikail should be in there right. the one from Jinx.

[last man of krypton]

He left after regaining his powers. It was explained in some e-mails (during Verizon promotions I think), as well as his meeting of Molly (the hacker from "Delete").

[Lightning Flash]

Originally posted by xrayvision
-Bart Allen (Run): Not a freak, but some special feature of the season 5 DVD's say that he is being held in 33.1. I think he will be an escapee of 33.1 because we know he returns from that preview clip after Subterranean. So a likely candidate, but one who will escape & join the JLA.
Isn't Bart supposed to have gotten his powers through the meteor shower, in the Smallville Mythos?

[wraith808]

Not AFAIK... they never said where he got his powers from... but he's not from Smallville, so I don't think so.

EDIT: Actually, I think they did say it was from some accident... but I can't recall offhand.

[last man of krypton]

Bart did mention something about lightning being a factor in gaining his ability (like his comic counterpart), and ruled out anything Kryptonite-related.

[RyanStray]

Ryan was never a freak. His telepathy was never Kryptonite-related.

And he'd be my first choice as a sidekick for Clark were his character still alive...

[Zach]

And also, we don't really know if this is all about Clark. I think that Lex just wants world domination.

[Muse25]

I think at this point Lex just wants the anwsers to everything in the world. I don't think it's about Clark anymore. I think that's where it started but it progressed.

[xrayvision]

Originally posted by last man of krypton
Bart did mention something about lightning being a factor in gaining his ability (like his comic counterpart), and ruled out anything Kryptonite-related.

Also, Bart is from the future since he is the grandson of Barry Allen, who is supposed to be around Clark's age. He did say to Chloe that he was in the future as a set-up to a pickup line, but I don't think he was lying. It would be cool if when Bart eventually leaves, he tells Clark where he could find Barry, but I don't know how the Smallville mythos will go, so we may never see Barry, not to mention Wally West or Jay Garrick.

[Estro-gen X]

wow x ray vision thats quite a list. i'd love to see kara back-possibly with the idea that lindsay's presence is dead- its all kara. as for the other 'freaks' i don't think i could handle shelby getting experimented on.:(

[xrayvision]

The Shelby one is one I can do without too. I would like to see Eric Summers again, but the fact that Ashmore's twin brother is now Jimmy Olsen will most likely make that impossible. There are quite a few freaks who would probably help Luthor out because their lives are otherwise ruined anyway, and through Lex, they could get some degree of power. I would put Ian, Eric, the Kinetic guys, and some others in this category.

[warriorrenegade]

Man thats a long list Xray. You never really know how many freaks SV has had until you see it on paper/screen. For all those freaks the only ones I'd like to see back and battle the JL would be

-Lee & the Twins (Mortal) Lee especially, the ending to Mortal alone shows this guy has a serious axe to grind when it comes to Clark. Plus he was a cocky SOB, great badguy tendencies

-Jed McNally (Subterranean) Hes more recent so hes on my radar.

[xrayvision]

I think explaining Jimmy Olsen as Eric Summers' cousin would be cool. It would also create a good problem for Clark since he would try not to hurt a relative of Jimmy's. I put those Kinetic guys in the same boat as Lee & the Twins. They have an axe to grind since their "brother" Wade was killed as a result of Clark's interference.

It would be so awesome if Lex locks up Lana in 33.1 and tries to experiment on her as a last resort after everything else he does to force her to be with him fails. I think that would really be something that could finally teach her a lesson not to do crazy things that end up with her being over her head in trouble.

Tyler McKnight, Tim Westcott, and Eric Marsh are some others I'd like to see as well as Mikail Mxyzptlk. Maybe the guy I want to see the most is Dr. Hamilton. I always wanted them to explain why he was gone from the barn before Lex & Lionel arrived at the scene. Clark & Pete didn't take him since they were in a hurry to get the hell out. And it didn't look like the cops arrived at the scene, since there was no police tape around it.

[warriorrenegade]

Damn You're right. They never really explained Hamilton. Maybe hes the Dr. In charge of experiments, its plausible. I mean he knows how meteor fragments affect people etc... He could've enhanced all their powers and along with Lex will unleash them.

Though in the end, it probably won't go down like that. Knowing SV. Ah well.

[Ares]

Great Scene Stupid Episode

[xrayvision]

Originally posted by warriorrenegade
Damn You're right. They never really explained Hamilton. Maybe hes the Dr. In charge of experiments, its plausible. I mean he knows how meteor fragments affect people etc... He could've enhanced all their powers and along with Lex will unleash them.

Though in the end, it probably won't go down like that. Knowing SV. Ah well.

Yeah, it's a shame. I have a theory that Cadmus labs, where Lex sent Dr. Hamilton after the events of Nicodemus is the pre-cursor of 33.1. That is where he sent the alien parasites from Rush that Dr. Walden found. Hamilton would have been the perfect guy to analyze them. It's possible that he went back to his job there.

It would be awesome if Hamilton (basically an ex-psuedo-meteor freak, who would have been cured once it all left his system) is the ringleader and the highest scientist of 33.1. Joe Morton is a great actor and I would love to see him back in SV.

I know there is a Dr. Hamilton in the comic mythos, but I think it's Emil Hamilton (or something else) not Steven Hamilton like in SV, but this could be one of those things that SV changes.