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gogeta
12-07-2006, 12:49 PM
Discuss all things Chimmy here!

Tia
12-07-2006, 03:59 PM
is jimmy gonna appear in the episode?

STFanatic
12-07-2006, 05:15 PM
Originally posted by Tia
is jimmy gonna appear in the episode?


Yes, the Jimster is in this one :D

D.M.A.
12-07-2006, 06:02 PM
Originally posted by Tia
is jimmy gonna appear in the episode?
yea he suppose to be but I dont think much since the epi mainly focus on clark/lex

lillie_poo_pod
12-07-2006, 06:25 PM
ROFLMAO @ Jimmy he is sooooooooo goofy!:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

jimmyolsenblues
12-07-2006, 06:25 PM
"Define Boyfriend?"
I thought they were an item?

i luv tom welling
12-07-2006, 06:26 PM
He's great with facial expressions.

biaaly
12-07-2006, 06:27 PM
Jimmy was hilarious!

shy175223
12-07-2006, 06:29 PM
words from Chloe... about Clark and her...

That relationship is firmly at bay meaning that friendship is just friendship.

and about Jimmy,'
'You make me very happy'

lilkoolmaria
12-07-2006, 06:30 PM
Ahhhh Jimmy. The guy is just too dunny! I'm gonna miss him.

biaaly
12-07-2006, 06:30 PM
Lets hope that sticks, shy.

TrevorH
12-07-2006, 06:30 PM
I havent seen so much extreme over acting with facial expressions in my life. It looked fake.

Luthor5339
12-07-2006, 06:31 PM
That was classic Jimmy. Lol. That was great. [The pizza scene]

kickarse
12-07-2006, 06:31 PM
Originally posted by shy175223
words from Chloe... about Clark and her...

That relationship is firmly at bay meaning that friendship is just friendship.

and about Jimmy,'
'You make me very happy'

But that still means there's a ship :D

D.M.A.
12-07-2006, 06:31 PM
Originally posted by biaaly
Ack! She said define Boyfriend and then Clark walks in! Not good!
naw what's not good isn't that comment but him sayin he knows why clark left.And how clark is madly in luv wit her she looked like it was hard to tell him there is nothin there.Plus I notice she never wants to kiss him fo real,why smh.But ur right that comment was confusin but in a way it makes sense since they never really hooked up onscreen but offscreen(Between wither/fallout).So I agree,but who knows maybe this is sumwhat a setup for chlimmy breakup in crimson since jimmy notices clark feels sumthin smh.But the way jimmy was talkin to the boy all slow was 2 funny haha

shy175223
12-07-2006, 06:32 PM
Originally posted by kickarse
But that still means there's a ship :D

Yeah a FRIENDship.

Lostfan588
12-07-2006, 06:33 PM
chimmy ewwwwww! why does jimmy think clarks "madly in love" with chloe? lol im not seein it hahahaha interesting!

yep def the roles are officially reversed, chloe's tryin to move on and she's gonna be oooooo so pissed when clark breaks up the chimmy!

biaaly
12-07-2006, 06:40 PM
That always happens when the girl has a boy best friend ;) of course Jimmy is gonna be insecure and think something, doesn't mean its true

Khyla
12-07-2006, 06:40 PM
Originally posted by Lostfan588
chimmy ewwwwww! why does jimmy think clarks "madly in love" with chloe? lol im not seein it hahahaha interesting!

yep def the roles are officially reversed, chloe's tryin to move on and she's gonna be oooooo so pissed when clark breaks up the chimmy! :D

Lostfan588
12-07-2006, 06:41 PM
ur right but its still keeping the option open- bc now theyre showin outside ppl cough couhg Jimmy- sees sumthins up with clark in regards to chloe

D.M.A.
12-07-2006, 06:41 PM
Originally posted by Lostfan588
chimmy ewwwwww! why does jimmy think clarks "madly in love" with chloe? lol im not seein it hahahaha interesting!

yep def the roles are officially reversed, chloe's tryin to move on and she's gonna be oooooo so pissed when clark breaks up the chimmy!
yea I thought it was weird he thought clark didn't like him since they haven't had a scene together in his last 2 appearances.Plus to call chlark out like that and says he understands why would he,it was funny cause chloe had to play it off and it was funny.But sum anti's say there is no jealousy there(But jimmy begs to differ) :lol:

khufu
12-07-2006, 06:53 PM
There is NO reason to have Jimmy say the line "Clark is totally in love with you" if they aren't playing with a triangle...... or to have Chloe not give a direct answer to the "boyfriend" question.... or to have Chloe reassure Jimmy yet again. I know some of you don't want Chlark, but honestly, just look at the setup they are giving us. The bottom is about to fall from under Chimmy - Crimson is the end. Mark my words.

Lostfan588
12-07-2006, 06:54 PM
clark is jealous!!

jimmyolsenblues
12-07-2006, 06:55 PM
supercute. Jimmy is supercute. No doubt about it.

STFanatic
12-07-2006, 06:55 PM
"Your Bro not Foe" :lol:

savingpeoplething
12-07-2006, 06:55 PM
They definitely keep trying to make Chimmy out to be this happy ending, but one way or another, Clark seems to come into the conversation and Chloe, herself, seems hesitant with Jimmy at times.
She still doesn't have a definition of their relationship?
Just seems connected and then, disconnected...

Lostfan588
12-07-2006, 07:08 PM
wow the chimmy is a rockin, chloe's ready to move on and at the same time , clark keeps coming up. jimmys like clarks "madly in love with you"-where the heck did that come from??? now the wirters are showing other characters suspecting somethings up with ck. and jimmy's all like i know how you feelin "im your bro not your foe"! clark was all like "ummmm what???" and chloe was like "your crazy jimmy" its all just keeping the chlark alive! mwahaha. chloe is gonna b so pissed i tell you when the chimmy splits bc of Red K Clark...she has no idea whats coming! hahaha everything is gonna b reversed!

D.M.A.
12-07-2006, 07:11 PM
Originally posted by khufu
There is NO reason to have Jimmy say the line "Clark is totally in love with you" if they aren't playing with a triangle...... or to have Chloe not give a direct answer to the "boyfriend" question.... or to have Chloe reassure Jimmy yet again. I know some of you don't want Chlark, but honestly, just look at the setup they are giving us. The bottom is about to fall from under Chimmy - Crimson is the end. Mark my words.
I agree it wasn't needed,plus after the cute moment at the door he had wit her to turn around and then bringup clark was jus crazy to me.If they aren't goin wit a triangle/future breakup then why have jimmy in his last 2 appearances bring up chlark closeness.Even chloe looked nervous tellin him there is nothin to worry about,but for now there isn't.Soon there will be tho,right now he's askin her about clark feelings,before long he'll be askin her about her feelings.So I agree tonight may have been the last good chlimmy epi,cause hydro they fight then his last appearance crimson I see the breakup.

Krypto/DQ/
12-07-2006, 07:12 PM
Originally posted by khufu
There is NO reason to have Jimmy say the line "Clark is totally in love with you" if they aren't playing with a triangle...... or to have Chloe not give a direct answer to the "boyfriend" question.... or to have Chloe reassure Jimmy yet again. I know some of you don't want Chlark, but honestly, just look at the setup they are giving us. The bottom is about to fall from under Chimmy - Crimson is the end. Mark my words.


I completly agree, this is weird.

D.M.A.
12-07-2006, 07:13 PM
Originally posted by savingpeoplething
They definitely keep trying to make Chimmy out to be this happy ending, but one way or another, Clark seems to come into the conversation and Chloe, herself, seems hesitant with Jimmy at times.
She still doesn't have a definition of their relationship?
Just seems connected and then, disconnected...
yea plus she stays hesitant to have any physical contact wit him always stoppin him from kissin her.But her comments about definie bf,and his comments about clark bein madly in luv wit her were shockin ;)

Deana
12-07-2006, 07:16 PM
Boy, when Chloe said that ship has sailed in relation to Clark, I almost started to do a wave. It is about time! God!!

Chloe and Jimmy is cute, but I like cute.

I was glad to see Jimmy. I actually like him.

lillie_poo_pod
12-07-2006, 07:17 PM
*sniffs* I smells trouble in the near future for Chimmy

MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA

shy175223
12-07-2006, 07:18 PM
Originally posted by lillie_poo_pod
*sniffs* I smells trouble in the near future for Chimmy

MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA

well, I smell something different and it isn't trouble.

myankskent
12-07-2006, 07:18 PM
Definitely didn't see any jealousy from Clark when Chloe and Jimmy were about to kiss and he interrupted. I also don't sense that Clark doesn't like Jimmy. It looked like Clark was going to say, "Wait a minute, I have no problem with you" and then Jimmy just overpowered the conversation with his comedy.

Lostfan588
12-07-2006, 07:19 PM
not only that but bc jimmy seems to be suspectin something up with clark already and the totally out of place "madly in love with you line" i think he'll be a little more understanding than sum may think when he later sees chlarks feelings coming out...and it makes it more likely him and clark will remain friends in the future

shy175223
12-07-2006, 07:21 PM
Originally posted by Deana
Boy, when Chloe said that ship has sailed in relation to Clark, I almost started to do a wave. It is about time! God!!

Chloe and Jimmy is cute, but I like cute.

I was glad to see Jimmy. I actually like him.

you did a wave, I breathed a sigh of relief when heard those words striaght from Chloe.


Originally posted by myankskent
Definitely didn't see any jealousy from Clark when Chloe and Jimmy were about to kiss and he interrupted. I also don't sense that Clark doesn't like Jimmy. It looked like Clark was going to say, "Wait a minute, I have no problem with you" and then Jimmy just overpowered the conversation with his comedy.

that was I thinking.

Lostfan588
12-07-2006, 07:21 PM
which is why chloes going to want to murder clark for breaking up the chimmy and not letting her move on from him

lilkoolmaria
12-07-2006, 07:21 PM
"I'm ya bro, not ya foe."

L. M. A. O

shy175223
12-07-2006, 07:23 PM
Originally posted by Lostfan588
which is why chloes going to want to murder clark for breaking up the chimmy and not letting her move on from him

Chloe is not going to WANt to kill Clark for that. And aonther thing I do not think that Chimmy will end.

myankskent
12-07-2006, 07:24 PM
Originally posted by Lostfan588
which is why chloes going to want to murder clark for breaking up the chimmy and not letting her move on from him

And if that happens, which would be terrible, then that could end up destroying the Chlark friendship because Chloe looks to be very happy with Jimmy. That would also make Clark look really bad and I hope for his sake he doesn't break them up. Either way, if he does, I definitely can't see Chlark happening at all because Chloe will be furious.

Mary Sullivan
12-07-2006, 07:24 PM
Originally posted by shy175223
you did a wave, I breathed a sigh of relief when heard those words striaght from Chloe.



that was I thinking. Sorry but she just told him that they were friends..and it's true. She didn't said that She doesn't love Clark anymore. So... (;

Lostfan588
12-07-2006, 07:25 PM
ohh they will. they will. wait til Crimson. the wirters didnt throw in that "madly in love with you" line for nothing.

Lostfan588
12-07-2006, 07:25 PM
ohh they will. they will. wait til Crimson. the wirters didnt throw in that "madly in love with you" line for nothing.

chlarklove
12-07-2006, 07:26 PM
Originally posted by biaaly
That always happens when the girl has a boy best friend ;) of course Jimmy is gonna be insecure and think something, doesn't mean its true

In RL maybe. But in TVLand when everything is scripted and *purposely* written for a reason... then yes. Jimmy does have something to be worried about.

And IMO, when Chloe said "you make me happy" to Jimmy... she didn't sound too convincing. :p

But really, Chloe is convinced that Clark will never feel that way about her, so she's trying to move on. Jimmy is there, she likes him enough (not in love with him), he makes her sorta happy and has fun with him... so she figures what the heck.

That doesn't change the fact that she still loves Clark and always will and that Clark's feelings are changing and Chloe is about to know it as well. :D

Lostfan588
12-07-2006, 07:30 PM
Originally posted by chlarklove
In RL maybe. But in TVLand when everything is scripted and *purposely* written for a reason... then yes. Jimmy does have something to be worried about.

And IMO, when Chloe said "you make me happy" to Jimmy... she didn't sound too convincing. :p

But really, Chloe is convinced that Clark will never feel that way about her, so she's trying to move on. Jimmy is there, she likes him enough (not in love with him), he makes her sorta happy and has fun with him... so she figures what the heck.

That doesn't change the fact that she still loves Clark and always will and that Clark's feelings are changing and Chloe is about to know it as well. :D

if this isnt setup for a future love triangle i don't know what is :lol:

chlarklove
12-07-2006, 07:32 PM
Originally posted by Lostfan588
if this isnt setup for a future love triangle i don't know what is :lol:

It's not the future... it's happening right now! It's plain as day. They set it up in Zod!

Lostfan588
12-07-2006, 07:33 PM
lol i know but its just beginning to take form....pretty soon clarks gonna b begging to have chloe back! mwahaha. he deserves a little torture . Chlark is coming!

shy175223
12-07-2006, 07:34 PM
Originally posted by Mary Sullivan
Sorry but she just told him that they were friends..and it's true. She didn't said that She doesn't love Clark anymore. So... (;

She also said that the relationship is 'anchored firmly at bay.'

Deana
12-07-2006, 07:36 PM
I've yet to see a love triangle, and if it is it's onesided. Meaning only Jimmy sees the situation as a "Love" triangle.

Chloe's is a crutch of Clark's and now that said crutch has spread her wings, he's had to adjust to the situation. I don't see that as jealousy. More as a reality check.

Krypto/DQ/
12-07-2006, 07:37 PM
Originally posted by shy175223
She also said that the relationship is 'anchored firmly at bay.'


This is how TV make money heh. They want us to believe thats Chlark is dead and surprise! Chlark is happening! :p Thats my hopes.

shy175223
12-07-2006, 07:37 PM
Originally posted by Deana
I've yet to see a love triangle, and if it is it's onesided. Meaning only Jimmy sees the situation as a "Love" triangle.

Chloe's is a crutch of Clark's and now that said clutch has spread her wings, he's had to adjust to the situation. I don't see that as jealousy. More as a reality check.

right.

D.M.A.
12-07-2006, 07:37 PM
Originally posted by shy175223
Chloe is not going to WANt to kill Clark for that. And aonther thing I do not think that Chimmy will end.
suuuure u dont see it ;) naw jus kiddin :D

myankskent
12-07-2006, 07:38 PM
I'm sorry, I didn't see a single thing from Clark indicating that he was jealous. No long looks or jealous looks, nothing but standing there unable to get a single word in because Jimmy was going wild on him for pretty much no reason. Now if something happens in the future, we'll deal with it then but I have not gotten any indications that Clark has a problem with their relationship. I sense more of Clark being uncomfortable around Lexana than with Chlimmy.

shy175223
12-07-2006, 07:40 PM
Originally posted by Krypto/DQ/
This is how TV make money heh. They want us to believe thats Chlark is dead and surprise! Chlark is happening! :p Thats my hopes.

No. it is more like a reality check via chloe.,


Originally posted by D.M.A.
suuuure u dont see it ;) naw jus kiddin :D

D.M.A despite our differences on this you know I enjoy reading your post.;)

Lostfan588
12-07-2006, 07:41 PM
yup! face it ppl Chlarkimmy is THE TRIANGLE of SV. Lana's going corrupt w "Money is power", Lois is no where to be seen, and JImmy himself sees Clark as being "madly in love with Chloe" the wirters put that in their on purpose ppl, otherwise if Chimmy were solid they wouldnt have put in JImmy's quite fascinating comments about the Chlark lol. The Chimmy's goin down and Clarks gonna be the one to make it happen.

myankskent
12-07-2006, 07:42 PM
Originally posted by Lostfan588
yup! face it ppl Chlarkimmy is THE TRIANGLE of SV.


Apparently you haven't read the latest Gough interview which just came out today.

shy175223
12-07-2006, 07:43 PM
Originally posted by myankskent
I'm sorry, I didn't see a single thing from Clark indicating that he was jealous. No long looks or jealous looks, nothing but standing there unable to get a single word in because Jimmy was going wild on him for pretty much no reason. Now if something happens in the future, we'll deal with it then but I have not gotten any indications that Clark has a problem with their relationship. I sense more of Clark being uncomfortable around Lexana than with Chlimmy.

And speaking of Lexana, didn't Gough say a little while long ago that the whole triangle is about Lexana.

chlarklove
12-07-2006, 07:43 PM
Originally posted by shy175223
She also said that the relationship is 'anchored firmly at bay.'

It is. For right now anyways. :p


Originally posted by myankskent
I'm sorry, I didn't see a single thing from Clark indicating that he was jealous. No long looks or jealous looks, nothing but standing there unable to get a single word in because Jimmy was going wild on him for pretty much no reason. Now if something happens in the future, we'll deal with it then but I have not gotten any indications that Clark has a problem with their relationship. I sense more of Clark being uncomfortable around Lexana than with Chlimmy.

When Whitney had issues with Clark for thinking that he was in love with Lana and wanted to "steal" her from him... was he wrong? :p

Lostfan588
12-07-2006, 07:45 PM
Clana is not gonna happen. nope. she's pregnant money is POWER. blah blah blah....shes corrupted so Clarks not gonna take her back

tptb are messing w ppls minds....they have a strange sense of humor.

besides this is about what we are being shown ONSCREEN. and Chlarkimmy is being setup!!! the words of jimmy prove it!mwahhaahaha

myankskent
12-07-2006, 07:45 PM
Originally posted by chlarklove

When Whitney had issues with Clark for thinking that he was in love with Lana and wanted to "steal" her from him... was he wrong? :p

Evidently not since Clark nearly kissed Lana while she was with Whitney.

shy175223
12-07-2006, 07:46 PM
Originally posted by chlarklove
It is. For right now anyways. :p

Not according to Gough it isn't



When Whitney had issues with Clark for thinking that he was in love with Lana and wanted to "steal" her from him... was he wrong? :p

Except Chloe is not Lana in this case. And Clark has not had a crush on her for five years.

Lostfan588
12-07-2006, 07:46 PM
damn this episode rocked!!!! :rotfl:

cotton candy girl
12-07-2006, 07:47 PM
Originally posted by shy175223
words from Chloe... about Clark and her...

That relationship is firmly at bay meaning that friendship is just friendship.

and about Jimmy,'
'You make me very happy'

That was sweet when she said that.

shy175223
12-07-2006, 07:48 PM
Originally posted by Lostfan588
Clana is not gonna happen. nope. she's pregnant money is POWER. blah blah blah....shes corrupted so Clarks not gonna take her back

now that is one thing that we can agree on. :D


Originally posted by cotton candy girl
That was sweet when she said that.

I know!!.

wolverine316
12-07-2006, 07:49 PM
Originally posted by Lostfan588
clark is jealous!!

You have got to be kidding me. There wasn't an ounce of jealously with Clark at all. The line about being on the clock was a joke. When doofus Jimmy was marking his territory with Chloe, Clark looked bewildered.

lastdaughterofkrypton
12-07-2006, 07:51 PM
Denial is not just a river on Egypt.

shy175223
12-07-2006, 07:51 PM
Originally posted by lastdaughterofkrypton
Denial is not just a river on Egypt.

yes it is.:D

cotton candy girl
12-07-2006, 07:51 PM
I didn't see any jealousy. Honestly.

chlarklove
12-07-2006, 07:52 PM
Originally posted by shy175223
Not according to Gough it isn't

And I believe everything Gough says about the future for what reason? He's known to lie/mislead All. The. Time. Do I need to post the things he has to prove my point?

You need to take everything he says with a BOULDER of salt.

While I do believe that the Clark/Lana/Lex triangle is a focal point... I *DO NOT* believe it's a romantic triangle AT ALL.


Except Chloe is not Lana in this case. And Clark has not had a crush on her for five years.

That's TOTALLY not my point. The comments from Jimmy saying how Clark is in love with Chloe and that Jimmy obviously has issues wrt him. Same goes for Whitney. It has nothing to do with the girl in the picture.

My point is the fact that they both made comments/had issues with Clark liking their girlfriends and voiced it and it turns out... they were right.

Lana also told Whitney that her and Clark were "just friends" as well. And well.. yeah. :p

myankskent
12-07-2006, 07:55 PM
Originally posted by chlarklove

That's TOTALLY not my point. The comments from Jimmy saying how Clark is in love with Chloe and that Jimmy obviously has issues wrt him. Same goes for Whitney. It has nothing to do with the girl in the picture.

My point is the fact that they both made comments/had issues with Clark liking their girlfriends and voiced it and it turns out... they were right.

Lana also told Whitney that her and Clark were "just friends" as well. And well.. yeah. :p

You probably didn't see my response before because it was at the very bottom of the last page, so I'll say it again. Clark nearly kissed Lana while she was with Whitney. He had many scenes with her where he was staring into her eyes wanting to make a move on her. Whitney's jealousy was right on the money, but Jimmy's? Clark hasn't been anywhere near Chloe since the Vessel kiss, not even close. It has been strictly friendship and nothing more.

shy175223
12-07-2006, 07:57 PM
Originally posted by chlarklove
And I believe everything Gough says about the future for what reason? He's known to lie/mislead All. The. Time. Do I need to post the things he has to prove my point?

You need to take everything he says with a BOULDER of salt.

While I do believe that the Clark/Lana/Lex triangle is a focal point... I *DO NOT* believe it's a romantic triangle AT ALL.

yeah well he may be misleading on somethings but definitely not this time since this is the upteeth time he has said it.




My point is the fact that they both made comments/had issues with Clark liking their girlfriends and voiced it and it turns out... they were right.

Lana also told Whitney that her and Clark were "just friends" as well. And well.. yeah. :p

Yes, but Clark never ever said that he like Chloe as a girfriend at all . And in both cases they were true when it comes to Clark being friends with them.


Originally posted by myankskent
You probably didn't see my response before because it was at the very bottom of the last page, so I'll say it again. Clark nearly kissed Lana while she was with Whitney. He had many scenes with her where he was staring into her eyes wanting to make a move on her. Whitney's jealousy was right on the money, but Jimmy's? Clark hasn't been anywhere near Chloe since the Vessel kiss, not even close. It has been strictly friendship and nothing more.

exactly!

khufu
12-07-2006, 08:00 PM
If I could step in on the jealousy thing. Personally, I don't think the intent is to show Clark obviously being jealous. I think the point was to show that Chimmy is unstable, and the bottom is about to fall from under it very soon. The fact that it continues to be Clark who is brought up with respect to Chimmy is merely foreshadowing where TPTB are going with it. And I'm sure we'll get a better understanding of that in Labyrinth/Crimson.

But I did find it interesting that all of the physical Chimmy was blocked in this episode. And the final Clark!Block at the end was rather amusing (no, I don't think that was supposed to convey overt jealousy at all, but it was definitely put in there for a reason).

chlarklove
12-07-2006, 08:01 PM
Originally posted by myankskent
You probably didn't see my response before because it was at the very bottom of the last page, so I'll say it again. Clark nearly kissed Lana while she was with Whitney. He had many scenes with her where he was staring into her eyes wanting to make a move on her. Whitney's jealousy was right on the money, but Jimmy's? Clark hasn't been anywhere near Chloe since the Vessel kiss, not even close. It has been strictly friendship and nothing more.

Did Whitney know about the almost kiss? No.

Again, that's not my point. Just because YOU can't see it, doesn't mean it's NOT THERE. Jimmy clearly sensed something in the scene in Zod and also in Wither, not to mention Chloe constantly talks about Clark (Static). He's not just making this stuff up out of thin air.

As for seeing something? He might just see something in an upcoming episode. :p But that's just purely my speculation.

shy175223
12-07-2006, 08:04 PM
Originally posted by chlarklove
Did Whitney know about the almost kiss? No.

Again, that's not my point. Just because YOU can't see it, doesn't mean it's NOT THERE. Jimmy clearly sensed something in the scene in Zod and also in Wither, not to mention Chloe constantly talks about Clark (Static). He's not just making this stuff up out of thin air.

well,it like you said just because YOU can see it doesn't mean it is there. That of coarse is the way YOU see it.

myankskent
12-07-2006, 08:05 PM
Originally posted by chlarklove
Did Whitney know about the almost kiss? No.

Again, that's not my point. Just because YOU can't see it, doesn't mean it's NOT THERE. Jimmy clearly sensed something in the scene in Zod and also in Wither, not to mention Chloe constantly talks about Clark (Static). He's not just making this stuff up out of thin air.

As for seeing something? He might just see something in an upcoming episode. :p But that's just purely my speculation.

And my point is that it doesn't matter what Jimmy thinks he sees. Clark and Chloe are close friends, she knows about his secret, if Jimmy wants to think that Clark is anxious to jump Chloe's bones, let him think that. I'm more interested in how Clark reacts, and so far, I haven't seen him react jealous at all. And even with the way that Jimmy is reacting, it's all done in a light-hearted way. I don't get the sense from Jimmy that he is going to start screaming at Chloe for hanging around Clark all of the time.

cotton candy girl
12-07-2006, 08:09 PM
Originally posted by myankskent
And my point is that it doesn't matter what Jimmy thinks he sees.


Word. And Jimmy said the same about Clark having feelings for Lois, and some didn't believe that. :confused: What's the difference besides that Clark is a closer friend to Chloe than he is to Lois?

chlarklove
12-07-2006, 08:10 PM
Originally posted by khufu
If I could step in on the jealousy thing. Personally, I don't think the intent is to show Clark obviously being jealous. I think the point was to show that Chimmy is unstable, and the bottom is about to fall from under it very soon. The fact that it continues to be Clark who is brought up with respect to Chimmy is merely foreshadowing where TPTB are going with it. And I'm sure we'll get a better understanding of that in Labyrinth/Crimson.

But I did find it interesting that all of the physical Chimmy was blocked in this episode. And the final Clark!Block at the end was rather amusing (no, I don't think that was supposed to convey overt jealousy at all, but it was definitely put in there for a reason).

That's exactly it. Thank you.


Originally posted by shy175223
well,it like you said just because YOU can see it doesn't mean it is there. That of coarse is the way YOU see it.

This has absolutely nothing to do with how Clark feels or if there is or isn't jealousy there. Okay? Let me get that out of the way since I think some people aren't getting what I'm talking about.

This is about how JIMMY feels. I used my Whitney comparison because of the dialogue earlier to show that they don't say things like that w/o it actually meaning something.

Jimmy can sense that there's something between Chloe and Clark. ON BOTH SIDES. It's showing that the Chimmy relationship is not at all strong and will crumble very shortly. He's very insecure and jealous and Chloe constantly has to reassure him. That will grow old and eventually all his fears will prove to be right in the end.

D.M.A.
12-07-2006, 08:18 PM
Originally posted by myankskent
I'm sorry, I didn't see a single thing from Clark indicating that he was jealous. No long looks or jealous looks, nothing but standing there unable to get a single word in because Jimmy was going wild on him for pretty much no reason. Now if something happens in the future, we'll deal with it then but I have not gotten any indications that Clark has a problem with their relationship. I sense more of Clark being uncomfortable around Lexana than with Chlimmy.
u kno ur right I do believe clark didn't show any jealousy tonight he had other things on his mind,even when he was at the mansion he didn't seem to show jealousy towards lex either.Tonight was more about him helpin the boy,but what was shown was chlimmy/well atleast jimmy not feelin so secure.That's why I think he really wants chloe to move out,the excuse of serial killers/bein way in sv was a coverup he is shown to have probs wit chlark bein so close.His comments is what most r talkin about,I do agree clark showed no signs tonight but jimmy did.Imo it was setup for jimmy to admit out loud that he see those 2 have feelings and he understands(Which he did state),and by the end show him tryin to become friends wit clark.So if they do go the chlark route later like sum imagine clark will cause chlimmy to split in crimson,we can atleast say jimmy saw it comin and wont be as upset.By then even in offscreen we kno now he's tryin to become friends wit clark,yet still thinks chlark want each other.So if it happens and he catches them doin sumthin and they split we've been shown already the setup.I think that's what most r tryin to say is that jimmy comments tonight sumwhat setup things for crimson incase he spots them doin sumthin romantic,he'll understand more since he always assumed it.I agree clark showed no signs tonight but jimmy definitely is puttin the idea in chlark head now :D


Originally posted by shy175223
D.M.A despite our differences on this you know I enjoy reading your post.;)
I kno and I enjoy urs ma',even tho we r rootin for 2 diff couples atleast we r both thinkin outside the myths since we kno the endin.And r actually hopin it turns out diff :D

myankskent
12-07-2006, 08:24 PM
Originally posted by chlarklove

This has absolutely nothing to do with how Clark feels or if there is or isn't jealousy there. Okay? Let me get that out of the way since I think some people aren't getting what I'm talking about.

This is about how JIMMY feels. I used my Whitney comparison because of the dialogue earlier to show that they don't say things like that w/o it actually meaning something.

Jimmy can sense that there's something between Chloe and Clark. ON BOTH SIDES. It's showing that the Chimmy relationship is not at all strong and will crumble very shortly. He's very insecure and jealous and Chloe constantly has to reassure him. That will grow old and eventually all his fears will prove to be right in the end.

And if Jimmy's insecurities end up costing him a relationship with Chloe, so be it. That still doesn't change the fact that Clark does not seem jealous around them. I know where everyone is going with this, you're thinking that if Chloe and Jimmy breakup, bingo, Chloe's suddenly available to finally be with Clark. Well Chloe and Clark have been available at the same time many times this series and nothing has happened and we have not had any significant changes in the way that Clark acts around Chloe since that Vessel kiss that was supposed to mean so much according to some. We also have Chloe who has claimed to have turn the corner and has stopped chasing after Clark. And this isn't a spoiler forum, but I know that someone mentioned a couple of future episodes, I haven't heard anything confirmed as of yet that is Chlarky in nature but I have heard other things, none of which I will mention specifically here.

D.M.A.
12-07-2006, 08:30 PM
Originally posted by khufu
If I could step in on the jealousy thing. Personally, I don't think the intent is to show Clark obviously being jealous. I think the point was to show that Chimmy is unstable, and the bottom is about to fall from under it very soon. The fact that it continues to be Clark who is brought up with respect to Chimmy is merely foreshadowing where TPTB are going with it. And I'm sure we'll get a better understanding of that in Labyrinth/Crimson.

But I did find it interesting that all of the physical Chimmy was blocked in this episode. And the final Clark!Block at the end was rather amusing (no, I don't think that was supposed to convey overt jealousy at all, but it was definitely put in there for a reason).
True I agree it wasn't about clark bein jealous but more of chlimmy not bein as stable as sum think.Besides when Zod/Wither aired many anti's said their prob was they didn't want clark jealous of JO,so now tptb have switched it to jus JO jealous of clark.It doesn't mean that chlark will happen or wont but it does imo show that chlimmy wont last.Jimmy is so paranoid of chlark that he even calls clark out as to bein madly in love wit her.Even anti's gotta admit that line was weird,yes we haven't seen much of clark interactin romantically wit chloe lately but then again we haven't see clark/jimmy interactin in his last 2 apperances before tonight.Whenever the guys r around each other clark looks at them weird sumtimes/but jimmy always feels threaten.So even his comments at the end imo were to setup a friendship(Which he still didn't have to call clark on his feelings since chloe supposingly reassured him like sum anti's say ;) )yet also setup a fallout/breakup of chlimmy in crimson wit jimmy understandin cause he saw sumthin there before either clark/chloe would admit it.So I agree here,the scene was more about chlimmy bein rocky,not clark bein jealous


Originally posted by cotton candy girl
Word. And Jimmy said the same about Clark having feelings for Lois, and some didn't believe that. :confused: What's the difference besides that Clark is a closer friend to Chloe than he is to Lois?
What this I see,is a clana fan sumwhat makin a point for chlark.I guess that new trailer got ur hopes up good wit clana that u dont care who clark feels for now :lol: .I dont blame u CCG,u kno u'll get ur clana tension regardless(Like cloisers kno the finale).But I'm suprise ur makin a point for chlark,I thought I saw u at our last chlark meetin I aint forgot about u sittin in on a few of those ;) naw jus kiddin

OliviaB
12-07-2006, 08:32 PM
Originally posted by chlarklove
Jimmy can sense that there's something between Chloe and Clark. ON BOTH SIDES. It's showing that the Chimmy relationship is not at all strong and will crumble very shortly. He's very insecure and jealous and Chloe constantly has to reassure him. That will grow old and eventually all his fears will prove to be right in the end.

Nicely put, Chlarklove. And with the stuff we know coming up, it sounds like they're taking their time to show Chlark endure a whole lot before it emerges stronger at the other end.

D.M.A.
12-07-2006, 08:38 PM
Originally posted by OliviaB
Nicely put, Chlarklove. And with the stuff we know coming up, it sounds like they're taking their time to show Chlark endure a whole lot before it emerges stronger at the other end.
I agree static parnoia of jimmy and tonights setups up labyrinth/crimson imo.Plus after the chlimmy breakup(If its over clark)will put more tension into chlark leadin into the season finale espcially since he's yet to tell her he's leavin.I still believe tptb r leavin that out for a reason he told martha why not chloe.Yes he doesn't have to tell her everything but if its not meant to be played out big then why not get it out the way,I thought martha hearin about it would put up a bigger fuss,but she didn't.Chloe on the other hand I think will,so I agree this was only a small sign til labyrinth/crimson then we can really tell how clark feels for her.Right now we dont kno,only jimmy does :D

Davlok
12-07-2006, 08:39 PM
You're all wrong!

Jimmy is just using Chloe to get to Clark. So he can be "alone" with Clark and "leave it all on the court".

He did say they grow them big in Smallville didnt he? :lol:

D.M.A.
12-07-2006, 08:42 PM
Originally posted by Davlok
You're all wrong!

Jimmy is just using Chloe to get to Clark. So he can be "alone" with Clark and "leave it all on the court".

He did say they grow them big in Smallville didnt he? :lol:
:lol: maybe

biaaly
12-07-2006, 08:42 PM
^^^^ LOL Davlok

Maryliz48
12-07-2006, 08:46 PM
Originally posted by khufu
If I could step in on the jealousy thing. Personally, I don't think the intent is to show Clark obviously being jealous. I think the point was to show that Chimmy is unstable, and the bottom is about to fall from under it very soon. The fact that it continues to be Clark who is brought up with respect to Chimmy is merely foreshadowing where TPTB are going with it. And I'm sure we'll get a better understanding of that in Labyrinth/Crimson.

But I did find it interesting that all of the physical Chimmy was blocked in this episode. And the final Clark!Block at the end was rather amusing (no, I don't think that was supposed to convey overt jealousy at all, but it was definitely put in there for a reason).


Yes exactly! The love triangle had begun!Well it began a while back, but sum seem in denial. Clarks feelings are going to get stronger by the end of this season Jimmy has forshadowed it. And I have a feeling Labyrinth/ Crimson is exactly where the chimmy will fall and then lead to the future..... Chlark!!! Tptb are drawing it out with good reason.


Originally posted by Davlok
You're all wrong!

Jimmy is just using Chloe to get to Clark. So he can be "alone" with Clark and "leave it all on the court".

He did say they grow them big in Smallville didnt he? :lol:


ewww lol thats gross! :lol:

Superboy2
12-07-2006, 08:51 PM
Jimmy brought over whip cream for desert, and I didn't see any desert with him. He seemed to be implying something. Anyone agree?

D.M.A.
12-07-2006, 08:53 PM
what I funny was chloe bein up on frequencies again since she seemed out of place in static.Tho it was jus a scanner she was listenin to its still funny,cause in static she acted as tho she never tampered wit frequencies before.

Krypto/DQ/
12-07-2006, 08:53 PM
For what we know Chloe lost her virginity to him but for now....we don,t know if they are sexualy active. But I don't think Jimmy was thinking about that, come on he's a nerd :rolleyes:

Krypto/DQ/
12-07-2006, 08:56 PM
Originally posted by D.M.A.
what I funny was chloe bein up on frequencies again since she seemed out of place in static.Tho it was jus a scanner she was listenin to its still funny,cause in static she acted as tho she never tampered wit frequencies before.


Yea that was kinda stupid, but in static she may have done that to let Jimmy look a bit intelligent :eek:

Maryliz48
12-07-2006, 08:56 PM
umm i doubt they have, but then again the way chloe seemed embarrased around the kid, who knows? ewww don't want to think about it. but yeah she doesnt really like to b all physical w jimmy she keeps turning him down so....i dunno...but ewww

bigv
12-07-2006, 08:56 PM
i don't know, i mean that wasn't the only time there's been a sexual reference between the two of them. and just cuz he's a nerd doesn't mean he isn't a freak (you know what they say about the "quiet ones")

AndiGirl
12-07-2006, 08:57 PM
awww...I'm sorry, but Jimmy is growing on me! haha. He is just too darn cute, and kind of kinky...who new? Making those comments about the wip cream, and towels being cushiony!? weird...but he's still cute. Any way, I do think there is still something there with Chloe and Clark still. Chloe saying that ship is firmly anchored is for obvious reasons...Clark has hurt her so many times, and she doesnt want to get hurt again. That's why she's with Jimmy, sadly....she's doing everything in her power to move on, but i don't think it's going to happen. So when Jimmy said "clark is madly in love with you." What was she supposed to say... "Oh yea, i know he may have feelings for me, and for that matter i've always had feelings for him..." Yea right! She doesn't want to blow it with Jimmy. I definitely think the writers are hinting at something to come...and sadly that's probably going to be the end of chimmy. But i also see Chimmy ending...thanks to clark, and clark with still do nothing to make Chloe his girlfriend. He's so stupid, that's for sure. But i saw jealousy in Clark....i don't know if it's a friend jealous he isn't spending as much time with his best friend, or more. I'm hoping it's more! :)

Krypto/DQ/
12-07-2006, 08:58 PM
Originally posted by Maryliz48
umm i doubt they have, but then again the way chloe seemed embarrased around the kid, who knows? ewww don't want to think about it. but yeah she doesnt really like to b all physical w jimmy she keeps turning him down so....i dunno...but ewww


I agree with the "ewwwww" ;)



Originally posted by bigv
i don't know, i mean that wasn't the only time there's been a sexual reference between the two of them. and just cuz he's a nerd doesn't mean he isn't a freak (you know what they say about the "quiet ones")

:lol:

AndiGirl
12-07-2006, 09:08 PM
I don't think they have since the internship...but Jimmy seems to be pushing for it...unless he is so stupid he doesn't know what he's saying. Yes, the whip cream seemed to be a hint at sexual things....then he made the comment about towels being cushiony. I don't know if i read too much into it....but he seemed very pervy in this episode! haha. :)

D.M.A.
12-07-2006, 09:11 PM
I dont think they have,I think he was jus implyin that he hoped to end their great night he had planned wit sex.But not that they have,so no.His comments seemed like what any normal guy would say when tryin to be romantic,he expected to get lucky later on but was cut short ha.As for her not wantin to atleast kiss him in front of the boy after he knew they were together was weird.Espcially since they were goin to kiss in the DP,a place she didn't want to kiss him at before.But then again tptb only put that there jus to have clark interrupt them,I doubt if he wasn't there they would have put that in.So that was alil weird imo,that chloe still doesn't show physical attraction to him(Except makeout point which was ooc imo).Jimmy is always makin the moves,so its funny cause his comments about clark bein madly in luv wit her and him understandin why was funny.If tptb aren't tryin to imply sumthin then why put those comments there,and even then why bring up his insecurities again at the end when chloe already assured him there was nothin to worry about.Why cause the boy is smarter than he looks he knows denial when he see's it and its comin from both.I think it'll come out in crimson but we'll see.As for his whip cream comment I think he was jus hopin they would after a great night out,but I doubt they have actually.

Khyla
12-07-2006, 09:13 PM
Note: Chloe didn't say 'that ship has sailed'.

She said something like 'that ship is firmly at bay'

That means it has never sailed ...Yet.
(and though she's probably thinking, 'and it won't') that doens't mean it never will.

That phrase puposely leaves it open to the possibility.

xrayvision
12-07-2006, 09:13 PM
For all we know, Jimmy could have been ready to bake Mr. Spock cookies with Chloe and use the whipped cream for covering them.

AndiGirl
12-07-2006, 09:17 PM
Originally posted by xrayvision
For all we know, Jimmy could have been ready to bake Mr. Spock cookies with Chloe and use the whipped cream for covering them.


:lol: I really wouldn't put it past poor Jimmy...

D.M.A.
12-07-2006, 09:18 PM
Originally posted by Khyla
Note: Chloe didn't say 'that ship has sailed'.

She said something like 'that ship is firmly at bay'

That means it has never sailed ...Yet.
(and though she's probably thinking, 'and it won't') that doens't mean it never will.

That phrase puposely leaves it open to the possibility.
True plus I'm suprise she even admitted to anythin bein between clark by sayin that.Sayin that much admits that sumthin use to be up between them/her wit him.I didn't think she would admit that atleast in static she never let on as to why they r so close.But tonight she basically admits that sumthin was there/still is there etc,but she doesn't think nothin has changed for jimmy to worry.I jus thought it was weird and funny that jimmy jus comes out and says clark is "Madly in love wit her" and how "He understands him who would blame him".That imo was jus a setup of them splittin cause he see sumthin from them later that he already figured out tonight.Oliver can point out clark feels for lana,and maybe even lois,so it was good to have sumone point out his feelings for chloe tonight.Cause after sum future epi he jus might be :D

Phantazma
12-07-2006, 09:23 PM
Originally posted by Davlok
You're all wrong!

Jimmy is just using Chloe to get to Clark. So he can be "alone" with Clark and "leave it all on the court".

He did say they grow them big in Smallville didnt he? :lol:

Bring on the Climmy! *shakes pom-poms*

Something's off with the Chimmy relationship; I can't quite pinpoint it but Jimmy is too paranoid and it seems that Chloe's ... I can't come up with the right word at this moment but ... she seems patronizing. I haven't checked the spoilers yet but it's doesn't seem like it'll be an enduring relationship. I still have a wait-and-see approach towards this 'ship'. Well, if Chimmy calls it quits, I hope Chloe and Jimmy remain friends.

chunkeymonkey1981
12-07-2006, 09:28 PM
Jimmy is funny and all but...sigh..he is sooo beneath Chloe..everytime he speaks Chloe has this *oh you poor silly fool* look on her face...lol..she needs a real man..she needs Clark stat!

lastdaughterofkrypton
12-07-2006, 09:32 PM
Originally posted by Khyla
Note: Chloe didn't say 'that ship has sailed'.

She said something like 'that ship is firmly at bay'

That means it has never sailed ...Yet.
(and though she's probably thinking, 'and it won't') that doens't mean it never will.

That phrase puposely leaves it open to the possibility.

They reminded me of Lois and Richard in SR when he asked if she was in love with Superman she responded everybody was or something like it Chloe never said that she didn't loved him anymore and she doesn't see herself as his girlfriend so is not a love to last a lifetime.
But don't worry when Chimmy ends up I'm gonna marry him...He is so damn cute. :)

LoisL
12-07-2006, 09:36 PM
x-ray vision, this is absolutely off-topic, but i love your avi! clark looks SMART. :D i'm like whoa, that guy is going to end up in the DP, how could i forget?

xrayvision
12-07-2006, 09:37 PM
Thanks.

BadToad
12-07-2006, 09:38 PM
I think AA does a good job with Jimmy, and his scenes with Clark are hysterical.

But the romantic Chimmy isn't working for me. Jimmy is adorable, but he seems really young. I'm not talking about in years, but in attitude. And Chloe seems a bit mature beyond her years. There just isn't a believable connection with these 2. And frankly, Chloe just doesn't seem that into him. :\

lastdaughterofkrypton
12-07-2006, 09:38 PM
Originally posted by Phantazma
Bring on the Climmy! *shakes pom-poms*

Something's off with the Chimmy relationship; I can't quite pinpoint it but Jimmy is too paranoid and it seems that Chloe's ... I can't come up with the right word at this moment but ... she seems patronizing. I haven't checked the spoilers yet but it's doesn't seem like it'll be an enduring relationship. I still have a wait-and-see approach towards this 'ship'. Well, if Chimmy calls it quits, I hope Chloe and Jimmy remain friends.

I think the word you look for is posesive, he looks like he doesn't give space to the girl and wants to be around her all the time and know everything she does is cute but I think it shows his insecurities like he is afraid that if she looks around she will find someone else...Are we sure he never dated Lana?:confused: :lol:

I think that Chloe likes the attention since she doens't often had a much of it bue she doens't know if she wants is such a biblical proportions. ;)
And BTW
Loved the whip cream line: Dessert so kinky. :p

sstray72
12-07-2006, 09:41 PM
Um, I think they have many many times. You don't add whipped cream until you're really trying to spice it up. I want to shake Jimmy's hand for that one!

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a71/MrStray/WhippedCreamPimp.jpg

lexs&os
12-07-2006, 09:43 PM
There was a lot of implying that they had, but I don't think they have either since the intership and I also think it's more so been Jimmy pressing for it

AndiGirl
12-07-2006, 09:46 PM
you know...only Jimmy could get away with it! I just thought about it, if any other guy brought a can of whip cream on a date with chloe...that would be the end of it. But Jimmy is just so darn cute, and dorky! He can get away with his little kinky ideas. haha.

OliviaB
12-07-2006, 10:02 PM
Me too - I don't think they have gone any further. And when Chloe was embarassed in that scene, I thought that was another sign that she hasn't slept with Jimmy yet. I mean, it could have just been a peck on the lips - a very sweet Jimmy kiss, but she totally stopped him.

sstray72
12-07-2006, 10:02 PM
I liked Chlimmy in this episode. It seemed like an actual relationship unlike most in this show. I'm not sure why Chloe was all like "define boyfriend" though... doubts maybe????

But why the hell does Clark just bust into Chloe's apartment like that... Chlimmy could be doing a little something somethin... if you know what I mean!!!

MsSullivan
12-07-2006, 10:07 PM
Chimmy is boring. But let Chloe have her fun till Clark comes around :D

myankskent
12-07-2006, 10:10 PM
Originally posted by sstray72
I liked Chlimmy in this episode. It seemed like an actual relationship unlike most in this show. I'm not sure why Chloe was all like "define boyfriend" though... doubts maybe????


I think that Chloe was joking when she made that comment. She knows that Jimmy is out there but I believe that she likes that. From a Chloe standpoint, it really does look like she is happy and satisfied with Jimmy.

D.M.A.
12-07-2006, 10:11 PM
Originally posted by OliviaB
Me too - I don't think they have gone any further. And when Chloe was embarassed in that scene, I thought that was another sign that she hasn't slept with Jimmy yet. I mean, it could have just been a peck on the lips - a very sweet Jimmy kiss, but she totally stopped him.
True plus her define bf comment also was a clear sign they haven't.But ur right she could have kissed jimmy didn't have to be a big passoniate kiss but then again chloe always seems hesitant to show public affections for jimmy.He's always makin the move...Plus I thought his whip cream gesture was more for him wantin to explore sex after their night out.Not that they have but jus he plans on it,2 bad he was disappointed :D

OliviaB
12-07-2006, 10:13 PM
Originally posted by D.M.A.
I agree static parnoia of jimmy and tonights setups up labyrinth/crimson imo.Plus after the chlimmy breakup(If its over clark)will put more tension into chlark leadin into the season finale espcially since he's yet to tell her he's leavin.I still believe tptb r leavin that out for a reason he told martha why not chloe.Yes he doesn't have to tell her everything but if its not meant to be played out big then why not get it out the way,I thought martha hearin about it would put up a bigger fuss,but she didn't.Chloe on the other hand I think will,so I agree this was only a small sign til labyrinth/crimson then we can really tell how clark feels for her.Right now we dont kno,only jimmy does :D


I think Jimmy's insistence that something is between them is going to give Clark pause for thought - because if nothing else, he's going to be aware that even while in a 'ship with Jimmy, Chloe's feelings for him haven't changed. They still exist but she's trying to get past them via Jimmy - ship at bay, remember. And Jimmy, adorkable as he is has a mouth on him that is going to get him into trouble with Clark. Interestingly enough, if Jimmy is the one that gets Chloe (Chlois) and Clark together even unintentionally, it would be totally kewl with me. And come to think of it, a lot of fic recently have him coming to that realization.

In the end, Crimson/Labrynith and the aftermath of those eps will be most telling. I would love if someone could confirm for me Lexana versus Chlark, because Lana is deserving of a smackdown right now. It's give Lex his spine back if nothing else.

And with this:
Plus after the chlimmy breakup(If its over clark)will put more tension into chlark leadin into the season finale espcially since he's yet to tell her he's leavin.

Do you mean leaving for his training? That's where I was thinking this season will end - Clark leaving for his training, but more importantly, Chloe being the one he leaves behind (not Clois or Clana). That's why I hope they're drawing the Chlimmy triangle out - so as to make sure Chlark will be left at the season end.

Season 7 had just better not start 7 years later or something. That would just be a cop-out.

Billy Jor-El
12-07-2006, 10:13 PM
The way Chloe looked at Clark when he came in at "define boyfriend" said she still loves him, and always will.

Meanwhile, uh, Jimmy does have style....take Chloe out for a great date and then bring her back to her place for WHIPPED CREAM :eek: oh my oh my oh my oh my oh my oh my oh my oh my oh my....I am SOOOOOOOOOO jealous.....even if he didn't get to carry it through....oh my oh my oh my oh my

D.M.A.
12-07-2006, 10:14 PM
Originally posted by myankskent
I think that Chloe was joking when she made that comment. She knows that Jimmy is out there but I believe that she likes that. From a Chloe standpoint, it really does look like she is happy and satisfied with Jimmy.
I dont kno its arguable imo,it could be but then again it may not.That's what sum r suggestin wit labyrinth/crimson that maybe we'll see if tonight was jus a setup or jus tptb havin fun wit the ship.I think it was a setup of them breakin up cause chloe never pursues anythin wit jimmy,he's always chasin her(Kisses/stories etc).Her actions tonight were mixed imo 1 min she's happy/thinkin he's cute the next she acts like she doesn't want to kiss him.Then she looks shocked that jimmy accuses clark of luvin her then looks sumwhat strugglin to reassure him.Yet I give u she was goin to kiss him at the DP(Which she thought was weird in fallout)but then again I think we all knew clark would be there to stop that lol.So imo its arguable if nothin else,chloe doesn't look too convincin jimmy is doin all the work :lol:

OliviaB
12-07-2006, 10:19 PM
Originally posted by myankskent
I think that Chloe was joking when she made that comment. She knows that Jimmy is out there but I believe that she likes that. From a Chloe standpoint, it really does look like she is happy and satisfied with Jimmy.

I thought she looked amused at Jimmy as she often does when he acts like an overgrown puppy - but not joking at all. If she was satisfied with him, something as easy as a sweet innocent-kiss wouldn't have been so hard for her to do.

D.M.A.
12-07-2006, 10:21 PM
Originally posted by OliviaB
I think Jimmy's insistence that something is between them is going to give Clark pause for thought - because if nothing else, he's going to be aware that even while in a 'ship with Jimmy, Chloe's feelings for him haven't changed. They still exist but she's trying to get past them via Jimmy - ship at bay, remember. And Jimmy, adorkable as he is has a mouth on him that is going to get him into trouble with Clark. Interestingly enough, if Jimmy is the one that gets Chloe (Chlois) and Clark together even unintentionally, it would be totally kewl with me. And come to think of it, a lot of fic recently have him coming to that realization.

In the end, Crimson/Labrynith and the aftermath of those eps will be most telling. I would love if someone could confirm for me Lexana versus Chlark, because Lana is deserving of a smackdown right now. It's give Lex his spine back if nothing else.

And with this:

Do you mean leaving for his training? That's where I was thinking this season will end - Clark leaving for his training, but more importantly, Chloe being the one he leaves behind (not Clois or Clana). That's why I hope they're drawing the Chlimmy triangle out - so as to make sure Chlark will be left at the season end.

Season 7 had just better not start 7 years later or something. That would just be a cop-out.
I agree labyrinth imo will tell alot about clark cause so far its debateable how he feels.But by that epi we'll kno,so if he makes any moves on her while on redk atleast we'll kno from the prior epi how he feels.And those feelings on redk may not jus be the kryptonite talkin :D .So those epi r important and I do think tonight was a setup but we'll see in late Jan/early Feb.,,As for the last part of ur quote yea I was talkin about him leavin to train,remember he hasn't told her.And if he see chlimmy split and thinks she's mad at him he may decide its best he doesn't tell her.I still believe he wont and she'll find out another way but hey that's jus me(We saw he didn't wanna leave her behind in vessel).Cause clark will feel alil guilty for chlimmy breakup so he'll give her space while keepin his feelings inside(If he comes out of labyrinth/crimson feeling sumthin that is).so yea his leavin will draw out chlark more for s7.That's where I see the actual ship happenin now,this season will jus lead to it(Maybe by the season finale before he leaves).And next season the ship but we'll see,labyrinth/crimson will tell alot about clark's feelings escpially labyrinth imo

OliviaB
12-07-2006, 10:22 PM
Originally posted by Billy Jor-El
The way Chloe looked at Clark when he came in at "define boyfriend" said she still loves him, and always will.

The "define boyfriend" comment was interesting wasn't it? She said it with such fond amusement (lol). I hope that means she's reassessing things with him, because if she was secure in their relationship, it would have much better to have her say it in a resigned tone, fond-snarky something like that.

myankskent
12-07-2006, 10:22 PM
Originally posted by D.M.A.
I dont kno its arguable imo,it could be but then again it may not.That's what sum r suggestin wit labyrinth/crimson that maybe we'll see if tonight was jus a setup or jus tptb havin fun wit the ship.I think it was a setup of them breakin up cause chloe never pursues anythin wit jimmy,he's always chasin her(Kisses/stories etc).Her actions tonight were mixed imo 1 min she's happy/thinkin he's cute the next she acts like she doesn't want to kiss him.Then she looks shocked that jimmy accuses clark of luvin her then looks sumwhat strugglin to reassure him.Yet I give u she was goin to kiss him at the DP(Which she thought was weird in fallout)but then again I think we all knew clark would be there to stop that lol.So imo its arguable if nothin else,chloe doesn't look too convincin jimmy is doin all the work :lol:

As far as kissing at the DP, I don't fault Chloe at all for not wanting to kiss Jimmy there. That is her place of work so I don't really see their relationship failing because of that. As for Jimmy making all of the moves, I guess you can come the conclusion that it's because Jimmy is more into Chloe than she is into him, something that I can't really debate because it's all about how you examine their relationship, but I honestly didn't see anything pointing to them breaking up in this particular episode. Things between them seemed fine to me. And again, you've heard me say this before, I don't know how TPTB can have Chloe and Jimmy breakup and keep Jimmy on the show. He doesn't interact with anyone other than Chloe and I also can't see TPTB getting rid of his character as we move toward the end of the series. It just doesn't make a lot of sense to me. That's why I'm still sticking with my opinion of Chloe and Jimmy staying together through this season.

OliviaB
12-07-2006, 10:24 PM
Originally posted by D.M.A.
As for the last part of ur quote yea I was talkin about him leavin to train,remember he hasn't told her.And if he see chlimmy split and thinks she's mad at him he may decide its best he doesn't tell her.I still believe he wont and she'll find out another way but hey that's jus me(We saw he didn't wanna leave her behind in vessel).Cause clark will feel alil guilty for chlimmy breakup so he'll give her space while keepin his feelings inside(If he comes out of labyrinth/crimson feeling sumthin that is).so yea his leavin will draw out chlark more for s7.That's where I see the actual ship happenin now,this season will jus lead to it(Maybe by the season finale before he leaves).And next season the ship but we'll see,labyrinth/crimson will tell alot about clark's feelings escpially labyrinth imo

With their investigations together into 33.1 I hope it means they acknowledge their feelings for each other by the end of the season at the very least, even if there's nothing official as in them in a 'ship yet. But if it happens in season 7 - that would work too!

D.M.A.
12-07-2006, 10:32 PM
Originally posted by OliviaB
I thought she looked amused at Jimmy as she often does when he acts like an overgrown puppy - but not joking at all. If she was satisfied with him, something as easy as a sweet innocent-kiss wouldn't have been so hard for her to do.
I agree she never wants to embrace him,he's always havin to make the move on her.Which is tellin imo,yes shes happy and tryin to move on.But not quite ready to move jus yet lol,so she hesitates,and jimmy jus doesn't spot it like we do.Otherwise he's asked why she never kisses him or does things wit him fo real without him havin to ask first

Khyla
12-07-2006, 10:37 PM
Originally posted by myankskent
... I don't know how TPTB can have Chloe and Jimmy breakup and keep Jimmy on the show. He doesn't interact with anyone other than Chloe and I also can't see TPTB getting rid of his character as we move toward the end of the series.. I disagree. He interacts with others. As a matter of fact, the Clark/Jimmy chemistry is quite fun and even when Chlimmy breaks up, i think they can remain "bros, not foes" i can see them all gettin along together at the daily planet. JO adds some comedy as well as some insight into stuff u wouldn't expect, similar to what Lois does on the show.

D.M.A.
12-07-2006, 10:45 PM
Originally posted by myankskent
As far as kissing at the DP, I don't fault Chloe at all for not wanting to kiss Jimmy there. That is her place of work so I don't really see their relationship failing because of that. As for Jimmy making all of the moves, I guess you can come the conclusion that it's because Jimmy is more into Chloe than she is into him, something that I can't really debate because it's all about how you examine their relationship, but I honestly didn't see anything pointing to them breaking up in this particular episode. Things between them seemed fine to me. And again, you've heard me say this before, I don't know how TPTB can have Chloe and Jimmy breakup and keep Jimmy on the show. He doesn't interact with anyone other than Chloe and I also can't see TPTB getting rid of his character as we move toward the end of the series. It just doesn't make a lot of sense to me. That's why I'm still sticking with my opinion of Chloe and Jimmy staying together through this season.
That's why I think they had jimmy confront clark tonight cause they r goin to try to setup a friendship wit them.So even if chlimmy splits and he comes back next season him and clark will be fine,and chlark and jimmy can work together more wit less tension since jimmy will kno chlimmy isn't meant to be.And ur right she doesn't take his advances well cause he's more into her than she is of him.But thats my point,tonight was a clear sign that jimmy sumwhat see it 2 and if he see chlark doin anythin in crimson it'll end their ship.But by that time him and clark will be friends and he'll jus step aside for chlark so chlimmy will remain friends as well.Tptb can find a place for him no doubt imo,I jus think tonight was sumwhat a sign that things may end cause of jimmy suspension thats all but we'll see

LoisL
12-07-2006, 10:50 PM
oh dear, chlark is entering the scene late again, eh? :\

i just wish they would get on with it if they're going to do it!! how is all this back and forthing better than the clana see-saw? :rolleyes:

chlimmy do have to break up for real. i was so glad that chloe was not left pining on her lonesome, boyfriend-less, BUT like y'all have said: jimmy is just too young and silly for her.

her relationship with him is even more onesided than it is with clark. even tho i personally think she is way more mature and smart than clark, jimmy makes clark look like a genius as well as alien gifted with super powers. :)

D.M.A.
12-07-2006, 10:56 PM
Originally posted by Khyla
I disagree. He interacts with others. As a matter of fact, the Clark/Jimmy chemistry is quite fun and even when Chlimmy breaks up, i think they can remain "bros, not foes" i can see them all gettin along together at the daily planet. JO adds some comedy as well as some insight into stuff u wouldn't expect, similar to what Lois does on the show.
I agree tonight he set it up by wantin to play ball so he can interact wit clark later on.So it can happen

Khyla
12-07-2006, 10:59 PM
thought it was special when Jimmy was tryin to talk Chloe into getting an apartment in Metropolis and said she "must have a Guardian Angel" or somthin' since she's living among all that danger in the Freak capital.

She was most likely thinkin . Yeah you're right, It's Clark! He's my "Guardian Angel":)

D.M.A.
12-07-2006, 11:13 PM
Originally posted by LoisL
her relationship with him is even more onesided than it is with clark. even tho i personally think she is way more mature and smart than clark, jimmy makes clark look like a genius as well as alien gifted with super powers. :)
True her ship wit him does seem 1 sided but what do ppl expect she's settlin for the guy who does speakup about his feelings instead of the one she wants.So I'm not suprise...as for the last part about clark bein smart compared to jimmy smh :lol:


Originally posted by Khyla
thought it was special when Jimmy was tryin to talk Chloe into getting an apartment in Metropolis and said she "must have a Guardian Angel" or somthin' since she's living among all that danger in the Freak capital.

She was most likely thinkin . Yeah you're right, It's Clark! He's my "Guardian Angel":)
True she was lookin like she was thinkin of clark by his comments and its true :D

LoisL
12-07-2006, 11:17 PM
Originally posted by D.M.A.
True her ship wit him does seem 1 sided but what do ppl expect she's settlin for the guy who does speakup about his feelings instead of the one she wants.So I'm not suprise...as for the last part about clark bein smart compared to jimmy smh :lol:



grr, it's a lose-lose situation for me as a non-chlarker-chloe-fan. :\

if tptb do decide to go with chlark, i hope they have a smart eventual breakup in mind in time for s7's end. cuz, there is no way i'm going with the chlois theory. :p

D.M.A.
12-07-2006, 11:44 PM
Originally posted by LoisL
grr, it's a lose-lose situation for me as a non-chlarker-chloe-fan. :\

if tptb do decide to go with chlark, i hope they have a smart eventual breakup in mind in time for s7's end. cuz, there is no way i'm going with the chlois theory. :p
Well look at it this way chlark doesn't necessarily equal chlois so dont worry :D

Superboy2
12-08-2006, 12:14 AM
I still think HE may have had something planned, and Chloe didn't know.

LoisL
12-08-2006, 12:14 AM
Originally posted by D.M.A.
Well look at it this way chlark doesn't necessarily equal chlois so dont worry :D

now that's just evil. :p homewrecker!

InLove_with_Chloe
12-08-2006, 12:16 AM
Originally posted by Khyla
She was most likely thinkin . Yeah you're right, It's Clark! He's my "Guardian Angel":)
I even felt like Jimmy meant it that way...

But: wow, was I shocked when Chloe didn't wanna admit in front of javier that Jimmy is her boyfriend...!!!
Man, that was the beginning of the end of Ch(l)immy.
And the door opened, who came in...? Clark. Gotta love AlMiles for their little signs...

LoisL
12-08-2006, 12:27 AM
Originally posted by InLove_with_Chloe

But: wow, was I shocked when Chloe didn't wanna admit in front of javier that Jimmy is her boyfriend...!!!
Man, that was the beginning of the end of Ch(l)immy.
And the door opened, who came in...? Clark. Gotta love AlMiles for their little signs...

*passes out in horror*

biaaly
12-08-2006, 12:52 AM
I did notice that little sign, its just like in, umm whats the episode called... Fanatic? When Clark tells Martha he can't see himself loving anyone but Lana (I don't have the exact quote) and then Lois drives up "Hey Smallville!" And we know they end up together, so maybe this little scene where Clark walks in after Define Boyfriend, proves that there will be a little brief Chlark on the way to Clois. I may be upset about that, but I'm not gonna be biased and say I didn't notice that lol

ginnyfan
12-08-2006, 12:53 AM
Yay! The Chimmy rocked in this episode (mostly b/c of wonderful Jimmy)!!! I was about to tell Jimmy to kick Chloe to the curb and move on... until Chloe said that Chlark is firmly anchored at bay and that Clark couldn't possibly dislike Jimmy b/c he makes her so happy!!! Yay Chimmy!


Originally posted by Lostfan588
chimmy ewwwwww! why does jimmy think clarks "madly in love" with chloe? lol im not seein it hahahaha interesting!


Well... Jimmy is head over heels in love with Chloe. Jimmy thinks Chloe is gorgeous to the point where he teases her about getting the job based on looks. She can't stop blushing!!! LOL!

So of course he assumes Clark, a redblooded guy who's always in close proximity to Chloe is probably in love with her. LOL!

From the puzzled look on Clark's face I'm sure he'd wonder WHY Jimmy is head over heels in love with Chloe... just as Jimmy finds it unbelievable that Clark is NOT!

Interesting.

Yay Chimmy! Though Chloe has a problem with the labels... (hesitates over girlfriend and boyfriend) she didn't seem to have a problem with the whipped cream. RRRROOOWWW! Chloe, Jimmy and the whipped cream! Now that's a recipe for yummy romantic comedy if I've ever heard one!!!

I don't see a guy who's never had any action with a girl bringing over the whipped cream and roses to spice up the relationship. And then if it is just for a dessert (cake and cookies) why hide it naughtily behind his back?

AND does Lois know what these two crazy kids get up to while she's away??? :D

ETA: Perhaps she told the snuggle-bunnies to hop around all they liked. :)

InLove_with_Chloe
12-08-2006, 12:54 AM
Originally posted by ginnyfan
Yay! The Chimmy rocked in this episode (mostly b/c of wonderful Jimmy)!!! I was about to tell Jimmy to kick Chloe to the curb and move on... until Chloe said that Chlark is firmly anchored at bay and that Clark couldn't possibly dislike Jimmy b/c he makes her so happy!!! Yay Chimmy!
C'mon, ginnyfan, you can't possibly deny that today was the beginning of the end of Ch(l)immy...?!?
I mean, Chloe didn't even admit he was her boyfriend...!
:eek:

LoisL
12-08-2006, 01:08 AM
i think someone is dancing while The Titanic is sinking. :(

I would too, if I knew how to.

InLove_with_Chloe
12-08-2006, 01:09 AM
Originally posted by LoisL
i think someone is dancing while The Titanic is sinking. :(
Well, the band played until the very end... No reason not to dance, IMO...
;)

ShelbyKent
12-08-2006, 01:12 AM
The scene sort of reminded me of a recent eppie of CSI NY. Peyton ended her romance with Mac Taylor, because Mac was rigid/uptight about public display of affection in the workplace. I say "sort of" because the CSI scene had a clear conclusion: the couple broke up within the same eppie.

In comparison, the chimmy scene was on the vaguer side. There could be more than one interpretation, which I am open to. I can see why Chlarkers would see this scene as the beginning of the end of Chimmy. I can also see the point of those who would say that Chloe was quite succint in pointing out to that there's nothing between her and Clark.

TPTB are teasing us and I'm annoyed *feels like hamster spinning on wheel*

LoisL
12-08-2006, 01:14 AM
i think it would make our lives alot easier if we knew which ship we're gonna have to live with for the rest of the season. i can compromise, but ya gotta give me fair warning first.

InLove_with_Chloe
12-08-2006, 01:18 AM
Well, what REALLY ended Ch(l)immy today was Chloe not wanting to admit to Javier, that JO was her boyfriend...
That was very, very clear. Even for AlMiles standards, IMO...

chlarklove
12-08-2006, 01:28 AM
Originally posted by ShelbyKent
In comparison, the chimmy scene was on the vaguer side. There could be more than one interpretation, which I am open to. I can see why Chlarkers would see this scene as the beginning of the end of Chimmy. I can also see the point of those who would say that Chloe was quite succint in pointing out to that there's nothing between her and Clark.

Of course she would deny it.

1) She's dating Jimmy. What is she going to say "Yeah, I totally have the hots for Clark and am still majorly in love with him, but nothing will ever happen between us so I'm giving up and hoping that I can move on with you"? Come on.

2) Chloe believes Clark will never feel that way for her because of what happened in Zod. Clark believes Chloe doesn't feel that way for him either. There's huge miscommunications going on here. She's trying to move on, but in the end will prove she can't.

But the difference is, Jimmy said Clark is madly in love with her. He can sense there's something there. Now, I brought this up already, but I'm gonna do it again. It's the same situation as the Clark/Lana/Whitney triangle (as well as the Clark/Lana/Jason triangle). Whitney knew there was something there and voiced his concerns, and he wasn't wrong. Jimmy is doing the same. The only difference in this instance is that we haven't really been given any clues as to what Clark is *really* thinking/feeling. All we get are facial expressions (which are subjective) and blocking (which is SO obvious).

Though, I'm sure that in the next few of episodes we'll get a more clear picture as to what Clark is feeling. ;)

InLove_with_Chloe
12-08-2006, 01:32 AM
Originally posted by chlarklove
It's the same situation as the Clark/Lana/Whitney triangle (as well as the Clark/Lana/Jason triangle). Whitney knew there was something there and voiced his concerns, and he wasn't wrong. Jimmy is doing the same. The only difference in this instance is that we haven't really been given any clues as to what Clark is *really* thinking/feeling. All we get are facial expressions (which are subjective) and blocking (which is SO obvious).
It's a good comparison, IMO...
But unfortunately, Clark is an enigma, and I fear he'll always remain one. Impossible to guess what he's feeling, and whether he's feeling ANYTHING at all, IMO...

ShelbyKent
12-08-2006, 01:36 AM
Originally posted by InLove_with_Chloe

But unfortunately, Clark is an enigma, and I fear he'll always remain one. Impossible to guess what he's feeling, and whether he's feeling ANYTHING at all, IMO...

Clark feels whatever AlMiles wants him to feel that's why he's vague, and that sucks................... :(

LoisL
12-08-2006, 02:13 AM
he's the uh strong silent type

CallMeClark
12-08-2006, 05:14 AM
Looks like Chlark isn't over yet, for all you hopefuls. This episode hinted at a not too stable Chimmy. Chloe wouldn't even call Jimmy her "boyfriend."

InLove_with_Chloe
12-08-2006, 05:16 AM
Originally posted by LoisL
he's the uh strong silent type
:lol:
Yeah, that's another way of sayin' it...

Rhoda123
12-08-2006, 07:11 AM
You gotta like Jimmy but I don't like he and Chloe together.. he seems a wee bit too immature for Ms. Sullivan to me.. only time will tell.. he was a total goofball in this episode though.. made me laugh!

InLove_with_Chloe
12-08-2006, 07:12 AM
Originally posted by Rhoda123
You gotta like Jimmy but I don't like he and Chloe together.. he seems a wee bit too immature for Ms. Sullivan to me.. only time will tell.. he was a total goofball in this episode though.. made me laugh!
Yeah, peperoni pizza was clearly invented in the US...
Just like the wheel...
:rolleyes:

Rhoda123
12-08-2006, 07:38 AM
Originally posted by InLove_with_Chloe
Yeah, peperoni pizza was clearly invented in the US...
Just like the wheel...
:rolleyes:

haha what a nerd!!!!!

bring on the CHLARK already dammit...

myankskent
12-08-2006, 08:05 AM
Originally posted by chlarklove

She's trying to move on, but in the end will prove she can't.



And if Chloe can't move on then TPTB will destroy her character. They've finally turned the corner with Chloe where she gave up on Clark and found happiness with Jimmy. To now go back to Clark would be character regression, especially since Chloe and Clark are not going to end up together. The whole idea of Chloe and Clark need to get together and then breakup at this point of the show just seems ridiculous to me. There's too much at stake, like their friendship which is rock solid.

Rhoda123
12-08-2006, 08:41 AM
Originally posted by myankskent
And if Chloe can't move on then TPTB will destroy her character. They've finally turned the corner with Chloe where she gave up on Clark and found happiness with Jimmy. To now go back to Clark would be character regression, especially since Chloe and Clark are not going to end up together. The whole idea of Chloe and Clark need to get together and then breakup at this point of the show just seems ridiculous to me. There's too much at stake, like their friendship which is rock solid.

Well I completely disagree.. I think that the relationship could last for quite awhile.. I know Clark ends up with Lois but that isn't until much later. I'm not saying I want Chloe heartbroken or I want their friendship completely ruined but what I am saying is that I want to know how they would be romantically and not always wonder what might've been.. there have been so many times in my life that I look back and wonder about things that I didn't do ... didn't go for.. and didn't give myself a chance on.. I want Clark and Chloe to have that chance.. I think their friendship is strong enough to survive!

InLove_with_Chloe
12-08-2006, 09:10 AM
Originally posted by myankskent
And if Chloe can't move on then TPTB will destroy her character. They've finally turned the corner with Chloe where she gave up on Clark and found happiness with Jimmy. To now go back to Clark would be character regression, especially since Chloe and Clark are not going to end up together. The whole idea of Chloe and Clark need to get together and then breakup at this point of the show just seems ridiculous to me. There's too much at stake, like their friendship which is rock solid.
Where did this LEGEND come from, that Chloe cannot find happiness with Clark...? Wake up, guys...
Wake up, Clark!!!

SnarkMasterJ
12-08-2006, 09:18 AM
Originally posted by myankskent
And if Chloe can't move on then TPTB will destroy her character. They've finally turned the corner with Chloe where she gave up on Clark and found happiness with Jimmy. To now go back to Clark would be character regression, especially since Chloe and Clark are not going to end up together. The whole idea of Chloe and Clark need to get together and then breakup at this point of the show just seems ridiculous to me. There's too much at stake, like their friendship which is rock solid.

That's a rather gross assumption. Chimmy wasn't ever meant to be a long-lasting, potential love in Chloe's life type of relationship. That much is obscenely obvious by how long Jimmy is even contracted to appear on the show this season -- their relationship isn't supposed to be a staple, it's supposed to be an obstacle for a stronger couple to overcome. All the dialogue they're giving Jimmy about how insecure he is with he and Chloe's relationship isn't for our health; it's classic TV setup for Chloe denying something that's bound to happen.

Whether or not that's viewed as potentially destroying a character is, of course, an opinion you're allowed to have. But it's quite apparent that they're not treating a potential romance between Chloe and Clark as a destructive force in the show. They're treating it like a TV romance -- perhaps doomed to fail, depending on your thoughts regarding the show -- but a romance nonetheless.

The same might be said for all the Clana we've gotten over the years. It's not meant to last, and we know Clark doesn't end up with Lana, so why bother? Matter of personal opinion, really.

InLove_with_Chloe
12-08-2006, 09:23 AM
Originally posted by SnarkMasterJ
Whether or not that's viewed as potentially destroying a character is, of course, an opinion you're allowed to have. But it's quite apparent that they're not treating a potential romance between Chloe and Clark as a destructive force in the show. They're treating it like a TV romance -- perhaps doomed to fail, depending on your thoughts regarding the show -- but a romance nonetheless.

YES!!!
Bring on the romance!!!
:D

Rhoda123
12-08-2006, 09:30 AM
Originally posted by InLove_with_Chloe
YES!!!
Bring on the romance!!!
:D

Heck yeah.. bring on the CHLARK!!

I fear if they bring on Clana or Clois, I might need extensive psychological help!

D.M.A.
12-08-2006, 10:42 AM
Originally posted by myankskent
And if Chloe can't move on then TPTB will destroy her character. They've finally turned the corner with Chloe where she gave up on Clark and found happiness with Jimmy. To now go back to Clark would be character regression, especially since Chloe and Clark are not going to end up together. The whole idea of Chloe and Clark need to get together and then breakup at this point of the show just seems ridiculous to me. There's too much at stake, like their friendship which is rock solid.
Well after agreein wit u in the chlois thread the other day I think I kno why u dont want chlark this late in the series,cause it'll lean more towards chlois endin which u dont want.I for 1 want chloe as chloe but wouldn't mind a chlark endin,but I kno where ur comin from.The friendship is so rock solid that a relationship wouldn't hurt it imo,but havin them get together now :lol: may be a signal of the end :D

myankskent
12-08-2006, 11:01 AM
Originally posted by SnarkMasterJ
That's a rather gross assumption. Chimmy wasn't ever meant to be a long-lasting, potential love in Chloe's life type of relationship. That much is obscenely obvious by how long Jimmy is even contracted to appear on the show this season

And without commenting on anything else that you wrote, I will stop you right there because as of now, Jimmy is slated to appear in 9 episodes which means that his contract is obviously not for 7 episodes. I'm not going into detail because it is spoilerish to say what episodes that he is going to appear in, but it is mentioned in the spoiler section.

D.M.A.
12-08-2006, 12:25 PM
Originally posted by myankskent
And without commenting on anything else that you wrote, I will stop you right there because as of now, Jimmy is slated to appear in 9 episodes which means that his contract is obviously not for 7 episodes. I'm not going into detail because it is spoilerish to say what episodes that he is going to appear in, but it is mentioned in the spoiler section.
But we knew he was schedule for 7 wit an optional of 10,so this doesn't say much.all it does imo is set things up incase there is a split later for jimmy to bond wit both,while givin them reassurance that he understands them hidin their feelings.So its still possible til we get spoilers/see onscreen otherwise :D

SnarkMasterJ
12-08-2006, 12:49 PM
Originally posted by myankskent
And without commenting on anything else that you wrote, I will stop you right there because as of now, Jimmy is slated to appear in 9 episodes which means that his contract is obviously not for 7 episodes. I'm not going into detail because it is spoilerish to say what episodes that he is going to appear in, but it is mentioned in the spoiler section.

And that means...what? He got two more episodes? I'm with D.M.A. on this one. It doesn't say much at all.

D.M.A.
12-08-2006, 01:16 PM
Originally posted by SnarkMasterJ
And that means...what? He got two more episodes? I'm with D.M.A. on this one. It doesn't say much at all.
After crimson there is 9 epi left,so even if he's in the 2 followin crimson his contract will be up soon.He doesn't play a big part into the finale,cause we kno AlMiles love cliffhangers so imo chlimmy splittin is still a possibility while buildin jimmy/clark friendship.It doesn't say much intil we hear/see otherwise :D

margroks
12-08-2006, 01:46 PM
The line was, "That ship is firmly anchored..." is not saying it doesn't exist. It's saying they are refusing to let it sail closer for the time being. And with the additional remarks from both the kid and JO himself acknowledging that Clark is madly in love with her says it all. Plus, with Clark popping in through the door immediately after Chloe said, "Define boyfriend?" That was a pretty big arrow pointing to "relationship with Clark on the horizon," I'd say. JO is nice but still, despite his moments of cute dorkimness, largely beneath Chloe in the common sense and intelligence department. JO was always something of a screw-up at times in the comics. Chloe is way over his league.

ginnyfan
12-08-2006, 10:43 PM
Originally posted by InLove_with_Chloe
C'mon, ginnyfan, you can't possibly deny that today was the beginning of the end of Ch(l)immy...?!?
I mean, Chloe didn't even admit he was her boyfriend...!
:eek:

I totally would, honestly if she had not turned around and shut down Chlark and THEN told Jimmy how happy he makes her.

I think she just has a problem with all the labeling. I just can't believe Chloe would be that two faced!!!

At the end when Clark looked puzzled... seemed that he was thinking "What the hell is Jimmy talking about..." Clark's puzzled look and Chloe's delighted blushing SAID IT ALL TO ME. Chimmy is still goin' strong.

If Clark had feelings for Chloe he would have been all flustered... Chlark is FIRMLY anchored at bay. As it should be if CLARK doesn't make the first move. And it looks to me like he won't.

Also, if Chloe is indeed a two faced...

Then Chimmy should end and Jimmy is way out of CHLOE's league. This isn't about Chlark. I'm sick of Chloe pining. Clark needs to win her or NOTHING IMO. Throwing away delightful Chimmy to babysit and do secretarial work for Clark as he barely gives her a second glance??? NOT COOL.

But maybe Chloe is so lonely that she's become someone who would lie to a guy just to use him for whipped cream sex. I really hope not.

And if she's lying about Jimmy making her happy then why is she with him? And if she is happy and she is dating him then what are they?

She's having trouble defining their relationship... I think she doesn't want to move too fast... but she's having fun. *shrug* Not the death tole for Chimmy... yet. But it looks pretty bleak for Chlark IMO.

D.M.A.
12-08-2006, 11:04 PM
Originally posted by ginnyfan
I totally would, honestly if she had not turned around and shut down Chlark and THEN told Jimmy how happy he makes her.

I think she just has a problem with all the labeling. I just can't believe Chloe would be that two faced!!!

At the end when Clark looked puzzled... seemed that he was thinking "What the hell is Jimmy talking about..." Clark's puzzled look and Chloe's delighted blushing SAID IT ALL TO ME. Chimmy is still goin' strong.

If Clark had feelings for Chloe he would have been all flustered... Chlark is FIRMLY anchored at bay. As it should be if CLARK doesn't make the first move. And it looks to me like he won't.

Also, if Chloe is indeed a two faced...

Then Chimmy should end and Jimmy is way out of CHLOE's league. This isn't about Chlark. I'm sick of Chloe pining. Clark needs to win her or NOTHING IMO. Throwing away delightful Chimmy to babysit and do secretarial work for Clark as he barely gives her a second glance??? NOT COOL.

But maybe Chloe is so lonely that she's become someone who would lie to a guy just to use him for whipped cream sex. I really hope not.

And if she's lying about Jimmy making her happy then why is she with him? And if she is happy and she is dating him then what are they?

She's having trouble defining their relationship... I think she doesn't want to move too fast... but she's having fun. *shrug* Not the death tole for Chimmy... yet. But it looks pretty bleak for Chlark IMO.
I agree he should fight for her or nothin,but I do not think she was as honest wit her response as u think.I mean what was she to say to her bf sittin there sayin he's worried clark will 1 day open his eyes to her.She jus reassured him that clark wants to be friends cause that's what she believes,we've yet to see what clark feels for any girl this season.So yes she was tellin the truth or atleast what she thought that clark doesn't look at her that way,not that she doesn't feel nothin for him.Plus I dont think her gettin wit clark will be her pinin again cause we'd have to see him show the feelings back first so she wouldn't pine if they both feel the same.So ur right he should either make his mind up about his feelings or leave it,that's what many chlarkers want.None want chloe to make the moves for clark anymore he has 2,so if jimmy bein there gives him a wakeup call then so be it.But I dont think chloe is usin jimmy for whipcream sex,I think jimmy was jus implyin that after their night out he hoped for more.I mean the girl wouldn't even kiss him and this wasn't the first time.Jimmy imo shows that he likes her way more than she's feelin him,but since he is atleast open about his feelings she decided to take a chance back.She isn't lyin to him cause this is what she honestly feel that clark may never see her that way,but no one knows how clark feels jus yet.so labyrinthy will tell us more and hopefully clark does sumthin in crimson to give jimmy a real reason to worry and chlimmy splits.At sum point I see chlark feelings comin out and we'll have closure this season either they will or wont,but none of the chlarkers will except it if chloe chases clark now.For once he has to wakeup and see how great she is,so this season the roles r reverse.She's datin most of the season/he's single possibly happy for her yet may want more.Late in the season we see a change and he possibly decided 2 act on those feelings...Its still a possibility til I hear her say she loves jimmy which may NEVER happen :lol:

JonStewart4President
12-08-2006, 11:54 PM
Honestly, I don't care what Chlarkers want or don't want. Not a concern to me. I like Chloe, I hate that she was pining for some guy for years that didn't care, but if they actually decide to go there, cool, but it does have to all be on him to make all the first moves. I'm tired of Chloe being some pathetic fangirl of Clarks. That is lame.

In the meantime what I see on screen is a really cute relationship between Jimmy and Chloe and even the times that Jimmy bugs me with Chloe, it's because he either worries about her too much or because he thinks she so great, whether it's being a reporter or loved by Clark, that he's afraid of measuring up. Chloe deserves to have some guy worrying about measuring up and not being enough for her! Not that it's that he's in love with some other chick and he's going to go on and on about it to her for the next umpteenth years.

Yeah, I'm kinda bitter about this one.

So while it probably won't last, for now I think that Chimmy is an equal and fun relationship and Smallville doesn't have enough of those.

MsSullivan
12-09-2006, 12:20 AM
We are allowed to have our opinion, its just as valid as yours. We want Chlark and see potential.

Chimmy will end, its was a doomed relationship from the start. Don't get too attached...

InLove_with_Chloe
12-09-2006, 03:09 AM
Originally posted by ginnyfan
I totally would, honestly if she had not turned around and shut down Chlark and THEN told Jimmy how happy he makes her.
Yeah, what was she supposed to do...? And the '...because you make me happy.' was said in a very interesting context, IMO... Because Jimmy asked WHY WOULD CLARK LIKE ME...? And Chloe said BECAUSE YOU MAKE ME SO HAPPY. This is typical AlMiles, again. She can't even tell Jimmy how she feels about him, without mentioning Clark in the same sentence... That's pretty clever writing, but of course it's also totally screwed up. To me, it demonstrates that in theory, Ch(l)immy could indeed work out, but Chloe's priorities are simply too much shifted towards Clark, to make the Ch(l)immy work. Please note: I am not necessarily speaking of romantic priorities, I really think that Chloe starts to see herself as a part of a team that can save the world...

Originally posted by ginnyfan
Then Chimmy should end and Jimmy is way out of CHLOE's league. This isn't about Chlark. I'm sick of Chloe pining. Clark needs to win her or NOTHING IMO. Throwing away delightful Chimmy to babysit and do secretarial work for Clark as he barely gives her a second glance??? NOT COOL.
Wow, this time I totally agree with you. Somewhere, there is a thread asking how Chimmy should end, and I posted there that I think the only reason for Ch(l)immy to end is romantic Chlark actually happening. And we all know that it's only gonna happen if Clark makes a move to win over Chloe.
Either way, I firmly believe the pining years are over, Chloe will never pine again, even if Ch(l)immy ends soon. She is more confident now, even if she was to be alone for a while...

ShelbyKent
12-09-2006, 08:17 AM
Originally posted by ginnyfan
This isn't about Chlark. I'm sick of Chloe pining. Clark needs to win her or NOTHING IMO. Throwing away delightful Chimmy to babysit and do secretarial work for Clark as he barely gives her a second glance??? NOT COOL.

I agree. Shipping preferences aside and speaking as a girl: I like Jimmy because he treats Chloe like a queen.Every girl loves to feel cherished and taken care of and Jimmy does that for Chloe in spades. Of course Chloe is an independent and modern woman who can very well take care of herself. But Jimmy makes her feel special and that she's the top girl in his life (in a romantic sense) bar none. For Jimmy, Chloe's not just the girl-waiting-in line while the real romantic interest is temporarily unavailable; she's not just the girl who you run to when you are looking for meteor freaks.

Of course Jimmy is not perfect (who is anyway in this show?) - he does have his embarrassingly dorky moments. But he does treat Chloe as #1, and Chloe herself said it, Jimmy makes her happy (I love Chloe's facial expression when she said this).

Whereas Clark, he never treated Chloe this way - she was always overlooked in favor of Lana, Khyla or Alicia (did I miss any other girl?). Not cool of Clark, and unfair for Chloe :( Any girl deserves better treatment.

If Clark majorly shapes up though, I wouldn't be opposed to Chlark (I'll probably be complaining loudly for a week, though ;) ). But he has to prove himself first and he has to stop treating Chloe like a doormat/lady-in-waiting/secretary. Otherwise, Chloe is really better off without him (romantically speaking).

ginnyfan
12-09-2006, 08:34 AM
That's true D.M.A. Chloe has never said that she loves Jimmy. :( She doesn't love him as much as he loves her. :( That was true of Lexana when it began... and it would have been true of Chlark at the end of Season 1 if it had ever happened... She could grow to love Jimmy but... still makes me a little sad. :(

Great posts JonStewartforPresident and ShelbyKent. I completely agree!!!

I agree In_Love_with_Chloe that Clark is a huge priority for Chloe. Which infuriated me in Fallout. But here, Chloe still manages to spend quality time with Jimmy, AND write an article which balanced it out. I don't know if I see it being a problem with Chimmy though, because Jimmy (despite all of his nervous dorkiness) seems to be pretty sure of Chloe and is really direct about it when he's not.

When he felt the push/pull of the Chlarkimmy triangle (I didn't come up with that name somebody else did. LOL!) he went to Clark and offered to play a little one-on-one. LOL! He's facing it head on which isn't allowing the tension to build. So...

ShelbyKent
12-09-2006, 08:57 AM
Originally posted by ginnyfan
I don't know if I see it being a problem with Chimmy though, because Jimmy (despite all of his nervous dorkiness) seems to be pretty sure of Chloe and is really direct about it when he's not.

When he felt the push/pull of the Chlarkimmy triangle (I didn't come up with that name somebody else did. LOL!) he went to Clark and offered to play a little one-on-one. LOL! He's facing it head on which isn't allowing the tension to build.

I agree. "We're bro's not foes!" (Has Jimmy been hanging out with AC?)

That's what's refreshing about Jimmy: he's easygoing and he's none too shy about declaring his feelings for Chloe. I think it was even generous (and funny!) of him to offer one-on-one basketball (Whitney wasn't that generous towards Clark). At least with Jimmy, Chloe doesn't need to consult a crystal ball to guage his thoughts and feelings.

InLove_with_Chloe
12-09-2006, 09:12 AM
Hear my words: in one of the next epis, Jimmy is gonna get mad and complain that Chloe spends more time with Clark than with him, her boyfriend (and he's right to be upset of course, because that's simply true...). As a consequence he will ask for a clear statement from Chloe that she's serious about that relationship, most likely even in front of Clark. Knowing AlMiles style of drama-writing, Jimmy will most likely ask Chloe wether she loves him or not. And her answer will be bitter silence, trust me. She will realize that she can't say it. Not in front of Clark and not ever...because she doesn't feel that way.
After that, Ch(l)immy will be dead...

ginnyfan
12-09-2006, 10:06 AM
Originally posted by ShelbyKent
At least with Jimmy, Chloe doesn't need to consult a crystal ball to guage his thoughts and feelings.

:rotfl: Tell me about it!



Originally posted by InLove_with_Chloe
Hear my words: in one of the next epis, Jimmy is gonna get mad and complain that Chloe spends more time with Clark than with him, her boyfriend (and he's right to be upset of course, because that's simply true...). As a consequence he will ask for a clear statement from Chloe that she's serious about that relationship, most likely even in front of Clark. Knowing AlMiles style of drama-writing, Jimmy will most likely ask Chloe wether she loves him or not. And her answer will be bitter silence, trust me. She will realize that she can't say it. Not in front of Clark and not ever...because she doesn't feel that way.
After that, Ch(l)immy will be dead...

YUCK!!!

But this is a possiblity. Every so often Jimmy gets vibes and he goes straight to Clark. But it is CHLOE who had the history with Clark. SHE was chasing Clark not the other way around. I don't think Jimmy knows this. And I think that would make him less sure of her.

It would be sad and send Chloe back into pathetic longing. I wonder if it would fly with Jimmy that he's second prize. "Well Clark has never given me the time of day and you make me happy so break out the whipped cream." But I don't think Jimmy would be satisfied with that. If it happens good riddance Chloe but it would be really sad 'cause she can't help how she feels.

But really, the fact that Chloe doesn't love Jimmy like she loved Clark isn't new. If Chlark had happened in Season 1, Clark wouldn't have loved Chloe like he loved Lana at first. And Lana SURELY doesn't love Lex like she loved Clark so... It can grow. And so far Chloe has been honest with Jimmy about why she dates him. He makes her happy and I think she likes him a lot. A LOT. That's something to build on. We'll see.

myankskent
12-09-2006, 10:12 AM
Originally posted by ginnyfan
I totally would, honestly if she had not turned around and shut down Chlark and THEN told Jimmy how happy he makes her.

I think she just has a problem with all the labeling. I just can't believe Chloe would be that two faced!!!

At the end when Clark looked puzzled... seemed that he was thinking "What the hell is Jimmy talking about..." Clark's puzzled look and Chloe's delighted blushing SAID IT ALL TO ME. Chimmy is still goin' strong.

If Clark had feelings for Chloe he would have been all flustered... Chlark is FIRMLY anchored at bay. As it should be if CLARK doesn't make the first move. And it looks to me like he won't.

Also, if Chloe is indeed a two faced...

Then Chimmy should end and Jimmy is way out of CHLOE's league. This isn't about Chlark. I'm sick of Chloe pining. Clark needs to win her or NOTHING IMO. Throwing away delightful Chimmy to babysit and do secretarial work for Clark as he barely gives her a second glance??? NOT COOL.

But maybe Chloe is so lonely that she's become someone who would lie to a guy just to use him for whipped cream sex. I really hope not.

And if she's lying about Jimmy making her happy then why is she with him? And if she is happy and she is dating him then what are they?

She's having trouble defining their relationship... I think she doesn't want to move too fast... but she's having fun. *shrug* Not the death tole for Chimmy... yet. But it looks pretty bleak for Chlark IMO.

Great post, agree 100 percent. And I know that some people have a problem with Jimmy being all over Chloe and sounding possessive of her, but again, doesn't Chloe finally deserve someone that is that much into her? After having Clark stomp on her heart time and time again, finally she meets a guy that cares about her and gives her the attention that she deserves. If Clark acted like Jimmy and was totally into Chloe, organizing these romantic evenings for her, nobody would say a word about it. It would be labeled "cute and adoring", but because Jimmy is, that's the death toll for Chlimmy. I don't see it.


Originally posted by ShelbyKent
I agree. "We're bro's not foes!" (Has Jimmy been hanging out with AC?)

That's what's refreshing about Jimmy: he's easygoing and he's none too shy about declaring his feelings for Chloe. I think it was even generous (and funny!) of him to offer one-on-one basketball (Whitney wasn't that generous towards Clark). At least with Jimmy, Chloe doesn't need to consult a crystal ball to guage his thoughts and feelings.

It's a positive that Jimmy is not dramatic about things. He takes them in stride and doesn't cause problems for people if he doesn't like something. That's why he's a quality guy in my mind and not a guy like Whitney or Jason who blow up whenever something that they don't like happens.

InLove_with_Chloe
12-09-2006, 10:18 AM
Originally posted by ginnyfan
It would be sad and send Chloe back into pathetic longing.
...but why do you take it as a given that this WILL happen? A Ch(l)immy break-up does not necessarily mean that Chloe will start pining over Clark, the very next day. She won't ever again. Those days are over, IMO...

Originally posted by ginnyfan
And Lana SURELY doesn't love Lex like she loved Clark so... It can grow.
Well, so can Chlark!!! That's all I have been saying for ever and ever...

chlo-el
12-09-2006, 10:21 AM
Originally posted by Deana
I've yet to see a love triangle, and if it is it's onesided. Meaning only Jimmy sees the situation as a "Love" triangle.

Chloe's is a crutch of Clark's and now that said crutch has spread her wings, he's had to adjust to the situation. I don't see that as jealousy. More as a reality check.

Except he's really not getting areality check because Chloe is still stopping everything to help Clark. She's tries to spread her wings. But any time Clark asks for her help and change her plans w/ her boyfriend she will do it.


Originally posted by Rhoda123
You gotta like Jimmy but I don't like he and Chloe together.. he seems a wee bit too immature for Ms. Sullivan to me.. only time will tell.. he was a total goofball in this episode though.. made me laugh!

Yeah, Jimmy was growing on me a little. He is cute and funny. But he isn't Chloe's match.

myankskent
12-09-2006, 10:22 AM
Originally posted by InLove_with_Chloe
...but why do you take it as a given that this WILL happen? A Ch(l)immy break-up does not necessarily mean that Chloe will start pining over Clark, the very next day. She won't ever again. Those days are over, IMO...


A chlimmy breakup would mean the possibility of two things, either Chloe simply doesn't like Jimmy in that way after time which would have nothing to do with Clark or she breaks up with him because she still has a thing for Clark. I can't see a Chlimmy breakup, at this point, being about anything but Clark. But I don't think that Chlimmy will break up so that's why I don't think that Clark will be an issue at all.

InLove_with_Chloe
12-09-2006, 10:23 AM
Originally posted by myankskent
I can't see a Chlimmy breakup, at this point, being about anything but Clark. But I don't think that Chlimmy will break up so that's why I don't think that Clark will be an issue at all.
Well, I disagree.
The signs in 'subterranean' were too clear, IMO...
1). 'define boyfriend'
2). Clark sitting in between Ch(l)immy in the last scene, splitting them up...
Classical AlMiles, IMO...

myankskent
12-09-2006, 10:26 AM
Originally posted by InLove_with_Chloe
Well, I disagree.
The signs in 'subterranean' were too clear, IMO...
1). 'define boyfriend'
2). Clark sitting in between Ch(l)immy in the last scene, splitting them up...
Classical AlMiles, IMO...

Well that's fine, I'd prefer to see some actual tension between Chloe and Jimmy rather than looking at blocking examples that are interpretive. I mean, everyone was analyzing the way that Vessel kiss was shot and the blocking used in that scene and look what happened after that...Chloe began a relationship with Jimmy. Let me see Chloe and Jimmy seriously argue in a scene or have a fight and then I will start leaning toward them breaking up. Because everything that I have seen so far has been done with comedy, nothing dramatic and nothing serious in nature.

ginnyfan
12-09-2006, 10:34 AM
Originally posted by InLove_with_Chloe
...but why do you take it as a given that this WILL happen? A Ch(l)immy break-up does not necessarily mean that Chloe will start pining over Clark, the very next day. She won't ever again. Those days are over, IMO...

Well, so can Chlark!!! That's all I have been saying for ever and ever...

Perhaps if Chloe gets over Clark but still Chimmy doesn't grow and so Chloe breaks up with Jimmy then maybe there wouldn't be pining. That would be good.

I was just saying that the fact that Chloe hesitates to call Jimmy her boyfriend weighed against everything else she said does not spell out Chimmy doom IMO. Especially when Lana hesitated to call what she had with Lex love at first and when Clark was considering Chlark, he was trying to find out what they had... I think its ok that she is having trouble defining her relationship with Jimmy and is just keeping it light and fun for now. It doesn't mean Chimmy's headed to the grave.

When I think of the ending of the episode... that scene made me feel that Chimmy is as strong as it ever was and Chlark is as staganant/nonexistant as it ever was. Clark's cluelessness has more weight with me than any subliminal message blocking.

And yes, if Clark suddenly develops romantic feelings toward Chloe... or opens himself up to trying that type of realtionship with Chloe... it's possible that it could grow into love. Unfortunately doesn't look like Clark has those feelings for Chloe... or that he ever will. IMO.

BadToad
12-09-2006, 10:35 AM
Whereas Clark, he never treated Chloe this way - she was always overlooked in favor of Lana, Khyla or Alicia (did I miss any other girl?). Not cool of Clark, and unfair for Chloe Any girl deserves better treatment.

I never get these types of posts. So, because in the past, Clark wasn't interested in Chloe romantically, but he was interested in other woman, that means he was treating her badly? So, any teenage guy that is good friends with a girl, and ACTS accordingly, but doesn't return her affections if she feels more, is treating her badly? I don't agree with that at all. Clark never pretended otherwise. Clark reassured Chloe as a friend many times over. Clark was there for Chloe in significant ways over and over again. The fact that he was in love with someone else does not constitute, *to me*, that he was treating her badly.


If Clark majorly shapes up though, I wouldn't be opposed to Chlark (I'll probably be complaining loudly for a week, though). But he has to prove himself first and he has to stop treating Chloe like a doormat/lady-in-waiting/secretary. Otherwise, Chloe is really better off without him (romantically speaking).

And I don't think he treats Chloe as any of those things. Chloe is his best friend, and yes, she's the person that he relies on for information. Because Chloe has shown that 1. she's good at getting it, and 2. she likes being in the thick of things with him, and 3. she can absolutely be trusted. Does anyone truly believe that Chloe would be happy if Clark stopped working with her? Does anyone believe that Chloe doesn't LOVE being involved with the adventures of Clark? Weren't people complaining loudly when Clark decided to keep something to himself for ONE WEEK? They are friends, they confide in each other. Chloe was there for Clark during his Lana troubles, Clark was there for Chloe when she was possessed by the walled-up girl. It works both ways.

And not every girl wants a guy thats smothering in his affections. Sorry, that isn't universally appreciated. But if Chloe likes it, and Jimmy's the one for her, so be it. I have no objections. But do I think Chloe is into Jimmy with the same level of adoration as he is into her? Not even close.

I don't want pining from ANYONE. Not Chloe for Clark. Not Clark for Chloe. If something happens between them, I have confidence that it will be something they come to mutually, because the appeal of the Chlark relationship for me, friendship or more, is the deep trust and understanding they have of each other. I think they've been wonderful to each other over the years. Despite Clark not returning Chloe's affections. Because in my book, that doesn't make someone a bad person, or thoughtless. Thats just the way it shakes out sometimes. Would it have been better for Clark to cut Chloe off, and stop being friends with her because of that? Would that have made him a better person? I just don't agree. IMO

myankskent
12-09-2006, 10:38 AM
More importantly, Chlimmy were about to kiss and Clark interrupted by making a joke saying "Aren't you two still on the clock?" If you're going to show Clark making jokes around the two of them, that tells me that there isn't a whole lot of jealousy going on there which is very important, IMO. No long gazes of jealousy and if you watch the way that Clark looked when Jimmy was going into his whole speech about how they should play a one-on-one game of basketball, it looked to me that Clark wanted to say, "What are you kidding me? I don't hate you and I don't want to steal Chloe away from you."

biaaly
12-09-2006, 10:43 AM
People keep saying that Chlimmy was doomed from the start, well then what about Chlark? That would be doomed from the start as well, because we know they don't stay together, just like with Clana, we knew they wouldn't stay together either...

I like Chlimmy, I think its cute, but I don't have Chlark blinders on... Didn;t Jimmy date Lucy in the comics? And since Chloe is like Lois' sister, maybe thats what Al/Miles were going for... I don't know, I just like Chlimmy together. They probably don;t stay together, because Jimmy isn't with Chloe in the future (Well, because there is no Chloe in the future mythos LOL), so who knows what the writers could do with them.

ginnyfan
12-09-2006, 10:43 AM
I don't think Clark treats her badly as much as he makes it clear time and time again that he doesn't love her romantically. Imagine Lana as Chloe in seasons 4 until now. Always helping Clark etc etc... and Clark reacting the way he does with Chloe. Do you see how different that is to how he treats Lana?

So it's not that Clark is doing anything wrong it's just that when you love someone, it hurts that they don't love you. It just hurts. And you can't convince me that all of the hard work Chloe did for Clark and all of the free time she gave to Clark in Season 5 wasn't hopeful romantic love to some degree.

I'm even convinced that Clark's the reason Chloe hasn't had a date in all these years! So... it's not Clark's fault that Chloe loves him and he doesn't. But as in Devoted... when Clark tells her how he feels, her eyes fill with tears... I just think enough is enough.

I think there's nothing wrong with being a little lovesick. That's a part of the beginning stages of love. BUT FIVE YEARS!!! That makes me want to tear my hair out. Especially when she's had so little reciprocation. I mean Clana was like getting teeth pulled but at least Clark got some action!!!

So it's not that I hate pining... it's the duration and the angst that makes it sickening. I mean Money Penny pines for James Bond. But she still has a full social life and gets her job done. It's funny and fun. Pining on Smallville has never been that way.

myankskent
12-09-2006, 10:44 AM
Originally posted by BadToad
I never get these types of posts. So, because in the past, Clark wasn't interested in Chloe romantically, but he was interested in other woman, that means he was treating her badly? So, any teenage guy that is good friends with a girl, and ACTS accordingly, but doesn't return her affections if she feels more, is treating her badly? I don't agree with that at all. Clark never pretended otherwise. Clark reassured Chloe as a friend many times over. Clark was there for Chloe in significant ways over and over again. The fact that he was in love with someone else does not constitute, *to me*, that he was treating her badly.


This I have to agree with and I am just as guilty as everyone for saying that Clark treated Chloe badly. If Clark had actually given Chloe signs over the years that he wanted her and then kept breaking her heart, then he would've treated her badly but that was not the case. Clark made it clear that he wasn't interested in Chloe in that way and it was Chloe who constantly tried to get close to Clark and Clark continously wasn't interested. The audience tends to side with Chloe on the way that she kept getting hurt, when she saw Clark and Lana kissing back in season 2, but Clark didn't want her and he never played games with her. Chloe just kept the hope alive and kept setting herself up for a fall, IMO. That's why I like the fact that she has moved on with Jimmy, but now people want her to dump him and get with Clark because it's POSSIBLE that he might want her now.

biaaly
12-09-2006, 10:47 AM
^^^^ Agree myanksent

myankskent
12-09-2006, 10:48 AM
Originally posted by ginnyfan
So it's not that Clark is doing anything wrong it's just that when you love someone, it hurts that they don't love you. It just hurts. And you can't convince me that all of the hard work Chloe did for Clark and all of the free time she gave to Clark in Season 5 wasn't hopeful romantic love to some degree.


I'm going to have to disagree with this. Chloe was doing that work for Clark while he was dating Lana. For Chloe to expect Clark to suddenly change the way he feels because she was good at keeping his secret and helped him out all of the time is unfair.

ginnyfan
12-09-2006, 10:51 AM
She didn't expect him to! But it still hurts! It just does.

myankskent
12-09-2006, 10:53 AM
Originally posted by ginnyfan
She didn't expect him to! But it still hurts! It just does.

Possibly, but I didn't get the feeling that Chloe was expecting anything from Clark in season 5 anyway. And I think that getting an inside look at how much Clark loved Lana made her realize that she didn't have a chance, even though Lana was with Lex.

Lostfan588
12-09-2006, 10:53 AM
......and thus deciding to try and move on with JIMMY! Too bad Jimmy thinks Clark's "madly in love with Chloe".....he's suspected something btw Chlark since the beginning and thats why the Chimmy aint gonna last...its too unstable.

biaaly
12-09-2006, 10:57 AM
But that doesn't mean CHloe is going to run off to Clark after, if she does that makes her another Lana... well hey!! People always did say Chloe was like comic book Lana! :) But really if Chloe breaks up with Jimmy only to run to Clark, that will just make her another SVLana, she always did that.

ginnyfan
12-09-2006, 10:57 AM
Well guys I'm going to agree to disagree on this one! Long live Chimmy! :D

myankskent
12-09-2006, 10:57 AM
Good point biaaly.

InLove_with_Chloe
12-09-2006, 11:03 AM
Originally posted by ginnyfan
So it's not that I hate pining... it's the duration and the angst that makes it sickening.
OK, this I can totally agree with. Because it's really not pining we are discussing any longer. Long agonizing angst is very very annoying. I agree. But unfortunately that's the only thing that AlMiles seem to be able to come up with, IMO... It's sad but true. I don't know how you guys feel, but taken together over almost 6 years, most relationships were angsty and dysfunctioinal... Still, we watch SV. So, can't be all bad.
;)

ginnyfan
12-09-2006, 11:03 AM
Originally posted by myankskent
Possibly, but I didn't get the feeling that Chloe was expecting anything from Clark in season 5 anyway. And I think that getting an inside look at how much Clark loved Lana made her realize that she didn't have a chance, even though Lana was with Lex.

You may be right about this.

InLove_with_Chloe
12-09-2006, 11:07 AM
Originally posted by biaaly
But that doesn't mean CHloe is going to run off to Clark after, if she does that makes her another Lana... well hey!! People always did say Chloe was like comic book Lana! :) But really if Chloe breaks up with Jimmy only to run to Clark, that will just make her another SVLana, she always did that.
So, now Chloe is both Lana AND Lois...?
What's that called - Chlola...? Hehe...
But I agree: If Ch(l)immy break up, she won't come running to Clark, IMO... Maybe he will come running, let's see...

chloefanforever2007
12-09-2006, 11:20 AM
I think Clark will come runnig to her....., saying he is sorry for her breakup and all that stuff of supporting a best friend .....then both will realize that they were meant to be .....
ok ....i better stop ...I am little carried away ...lolol :)

lastdaughterofkrypton
12-09-2006, 11:41 AM
Originally posted by biaaly
But that doesn't mean CHloe is going to run off to Clark after, if she does that makes her another Lana... well hey!! People always did say Chloe was like comic book Lana! :) But really if Chloe breaks up with Jimmy only to run to Clark, that will just make her another SVLana, she always did that.

This won't happen. Chimmy will end that is for sure but if it is it wouldn't be because Clark snaped her fingers and Chloe run for him at once. I think Chloe loves Clark but she would never feel that he is really over Lana (God knows that the show had stated this doubt) so I think Chloe will be alone for a while or maybe even date someone else but even if Clark tries to pursue her (I think he will) she won't try that at least not without a big effort on Clark's side to show that he is really into her.

D.M.A.
12-09-2006, 11:53 AM
Originally posted by lastdaughterofkrypton
This won't happen. Chimmy will end that is for sure but if it is it wouldn't be because Clark snaped her fingers and Chloe run for him at once. I think Chloe loves Clark but she would never feel that he is really over Lana (God knows that the show had stated this doubt) so I think Chloe will be alone for a while or maybe even date someone else but even if Clark tries to pursue her (I think he will) she won't try that at least not without a big effort on Clark's side to show that he is really into her.
I agree if chlimmy splits she'll jus be single for the rest of the season,but clark will have to prove to her that he wants to be wit her now.She wont make the moves for clark anymore,and that's why I think chlark will have a big scene(Like vessel)in the season finale before he leaves.Cause that will be the time for clark to get all of his feelings out,he'll definitely have to prove to her that he's interested in takin their status further.Snappin his fingers and she'll come runnin never,that wouldn't have happen even back in s1 its jus not chloe espcially now.Clark is goin to have to prove to her he's worth her givin her heart to him again.But I think by the end of the season the BDA will finally get a clue :D

ShelbyKent
12-09-2006, 12:53 PM
Originally posted by BadToad
I never get these types of posts. So, because in the past, Clark wasn't interested in Chloe romantically, but he was interested in other woman, that means he was treating her badly?
No. I never said Clark treated Chloe badly. Clark was not deliberately cruel nor was he a bad friend to Chloe.
What I said was, Clark almost never considered Chloe as a #1 romantic option. She's always overlooked. And you are right, that wasn't Clark's fault. He didn't lead her on and he clearly stated several times he just wants to be friends. No argument there. But the situation just made Chloe feel bad and unhappy. That's what I didn't like.Chloe couldn't have just turned-off what she felt and it must've sucked big time for her to see all these girls being considered as contender for top romantic spot in Clark's heart (again not Clark's fault, but it still must've hurt Chloe).

So that's why I have a soft-spot for Chimmy because in this relationship, Chloe is the #1 romantic option for Jimmy. I think this relationship is healthier and most importantly it makes Chloe happy.

As for the question, "Will this relationship last?" I hope so. But I don't know how long AlMiles can stay away from the drama. :rolleyes: We'll see.

SnarkMasterJ
12-09-2006, 01:16 PM
Granted, Jimmy is a sweet guy, and he treats Chloe well, and she seems to smile a lot when she's with him, so that's always a good thing. But TPTB are intentionally painting Jimmy in a certain way -- he's more of a typical sweet boyfriend, IMO, and not necessarily "the man of Chloe's dreams" or anything like that. A lot of the stuff Jimmy pulls off in the arena of wooing could be learned by reading Sex for Dummies or any self-help dating book, and it's mostly surface. He doesn't really know Chloe, and it's obvious from a lot of his commentary (while somewhat comical) that he isn't on her level of intelligence; half the time I see her looking at him like a puppy or some really cute and goofy animal. The chemistry required for an actual lasting relationship just isn't there for me.

jimmyolsenblues
12-09-2006, 01:20 PM
My question is ....
Does Chloe love Jimmy or is she using him till Clark turns his head Chloe's way.
Or has Chloe resigned to the fact Clark does not love her more than a friend, and if you can't love the one you want, love the Jimmy you are with?

Rachel B
12-09-2006, 01:28 PM
Granted, Jimmy is a sweet guy, and he treats Chloe well, and she seems to smile a lot when she's with him, so that's always a good thing. But TPTB are intentionally painting Jimmy in a certain way -- he's more of a typical sweet boyfriend, IMO, and not necessarily "the man of Chloe's dreams" or anything like that. A lot of the stuff Jimmy pulls off in the arena of wooing could be learned by reading Sex for Dummies or any self-help dating book, and it's mostly surface. He doesn't really know Chloe, and it's obvious from a lot of his commentary (while somewhat comical) that he isn't on her level of intelligence; half the time I see her looking at him like a puppy or some really cute and goofy animal. The chemistry required for an actual lasting relationship just isn't there for me.

I agree. I also think that Chloe enjoys the attention, who wouldn't? When you are in the background most of the time (relationship wise) and a cute guy finds you to be the IT girl, you will give him a chance. (also considering they have a brief history)But she will soon realize that, that is not enough.


My question is ....
Does Chloe love Jimmy or is she using him till Clark turns his head Chloe's way.
Or has Chloe resigned to the fact Clark does not love her more than a friend, and if you can't love the one you want, love the Jimmy you are with?

I don't think that Chloe is using Jimmy. I honestly think that she is trying to move on. And Jimmy is the guy who stepped up to the plate. If I had to move on it will be with a guy who looks at me like I am beautiful and believe it or not Jimmy does that for Chloe. However IMO Chloe will realize that her feelings aren't quite as intense as Jimmy's.

khufu
12-09-2006, 02:03 PM
Originally posted by jimmyolsenblues
My question is ....
Does Chloe love Jimmy or is she using him till Clark turns his head Chloe's way.
Or has Chloe resigned to the fact Clark does not love her more than a friend, and if you can't love the one you want, love the Jimmy you are with? I get the impression that Chloe very much cares about Jimmy, and she's attracted to him, but she doesn't want or isn't ready for something so serious right now. The problem is that Jimmy comes on too strong - that is the one constant in all of their scenes together. Jimmy is very possessive (which I'm sure the ladies here will agree is a turn off), and he is very insecure (which is also a turn off). And if Chloe is not looking for a very serious relationship, then that's going to create some problems.

So it's not about her being insincere when she tells Jimmy that he makes her happy, it's true. But he's also stressing the relationship in a way that might be hard for Chloe to explain without exacerbating Jimmy's insecurities. It's also important to point out that it was Jimmy who initially pursued Chloe, not the other way around. I think it's just a classic case of two people being on different levels, and this will ultimately sink the ship.

D.M.A.
12-09-2006, 02:11 PM
Originally posted by Rachel B
I agree. I also think that Chloe enjoys the attention, who wouldn't? When you are in the background most of the time (relationship wise) and a cute guy finds you to be the IT girl, you will give him a chance. (also considering they have a brief history)But she will soon realize that, that is not enough.



I don't think that Chloe is using Jimmy. I honestly think that she is trying to move on. And Jimmy is the guy who stepped up to the plate. If I had to move on it will be with a guy who looks at me like I am beautiful and believe it or not Jimmy does that for Chloe. However IMO Chloe will realize that her feelings aren't quite as intense as Jimmy's.
I agree she isn't usin him and can't help that jimmy isn't clark,she luvs who she luvs.And tho he's nice at times the moment jimmy wants to take the relationship further and confess his luv she'll rethink what's their doin.Cause she likes jimmy no doubt but she can never luv him,espcially if clark is always around.Thats why I believe the ship will never work,clark will always be a challenge for chlimmy cause jimmy was jus the guy who actually spokeup about his feelings.Not the guy she wanted so she's taken a chance yes,but the moment jimmy starts confessin his love/tryin to take the ship further she'll realize that she can't love him the way he may love her.Then again she may realize it but wont do nothin cause she'll be scared to take the chance wit clark again,so maybe it'll be jimmy who notice she can't luv him and make it easier for her.I honestly see him breakin things off,cause chloe at this point doesn't wanna get hurt so she'll wait for clark to come around and since we all kno clark wont as long as she's datin jimmy may have to push it.


Originally posted by khufu
I get the impression that Chloe very much cares about Jimmy, and she's attracted to him, but she doesn't want or isn't ready for something so serious right now. The problem is that Jimmy comes on too strong - that is the one constant in all of their scenes together. Jimmy is very possessive (which I'm sure the ladies here will agree is a turn off), and he is very insecure (which is also a turn off). And if Chloe is not looking for a very serious relationship, then that's going to create some problems.

So it's not about her being insincere when she tells Jimmy that he makes her happy, it's true. But he's also stressing the relationship in a way that might be hard for Chloe to explain without exacerbating Jimmy's insecurities. It's also important to point out that it was Jimmy who initially pursued Chloe, not the other way around. I think it's just a classic case of two people being on different levels, and this will ultimately sink the ship.
I agree,that's why I think her define bf comment sticks out,cause she doesn't see them as bein that serious.Jimmy does yes but she isn't lookin for that at the moment,and the more he pushes it the more she'll realize she can't luv him like he wants.So jimmy insecurities will cause prob later cause he'll force the issue(Of chlark etc)and she'll only be able to reassure him fo so long before she finally admits to her own denial.

InLove_with_Chloe
12-10-2006, 02:46 AM
Originally posted by jimmyolsenblues
Or has Chloe resigned to the fact Clark does not love her more than a friend, and if you can't love the one you want, love the Jimmy you are with?
I think it's pretty much something along those lines, actually... But that's not enough for someone like Chloe. That's why Ch(l)immy will break-up soon, not very tragically. Pretty angst-free, it will just end.

Krypto/DQ/
12-10-2006, 07:53 AM
But maybe Clark think that Chloe doesn't love him anymore. In Zod she told him she wasn,t expecting us to hook up and after she gets a boyfriend. And Climmy seems happy together when Clark is there. So what if Clark thinks Chloe doesn't have feeling for him anymore?

ginnyfan
12-10-2006, 08:57 AM
Originally posted by khufu
I get the impression that Chloe very much cares about Jimmy, and she's attracted to him, but she doesn't want or isn't ready for something so serious right now. The problem is that Jimmy comes on too strong - that is the one constant in all of their scenes together. Jimmy is very possessive (which I'm sure the ladies here will agree is a turn off), and he is very insecure (which is also a turn off). And if Chloe is not looking for a very serious relationship, then that's going to create some problems.

So it's not about her being insincere when she tells Jimmy that he makes her happy, it's true. But he's also stressing the relationship in a way that might be hard for Chloe to explain without exacerbating Jimmy's insecurities. It's also important to point out that it was Jimmy who initially pursued Chloe, not the other way around. I think it's just a classic case of two people being on different levels, and this will ultimately sink the ship.

I agree that Chloe just wants to keep it light and fun and Jimmy is more tenacious. I don't know if he's looking for a serious relationship... but he's more serious about it than Chloe is.

D.M.A.
12-10-2006, 11:45 AM
Originally posted by ginnyfan
I agree that Chloe just wants to keep it light and fun and Jimmy is more tenacious. I don't know if he's looking for a serious relationship... but he's more serious about it than Chloe is.
I agree and I'm glad a cloiser can atleast admit this much,jimmy is definitely more into chloe than she is wit him.She seems to want things light but jimmy is wantin more which imo also leads to his paranoia of chlark.If she keeps cuttin off his advances at sum point he's goin to question her feelings(Not clarks for her).But I agree she wants to keep things light,but jimmy definitely wants more.

InLove_with_Chloe
12-10-2006, 12:36 PM
Originally posted by Krypto/DQ/
So what if Clark thinks Chloe doesn't have feeling for him anymore?
Oh, I am pretty sure that he believes Chloe has moved on... And that's exactly why he's becoming more interested in her again.
That's how men are. Primitive, that's the word...
:rolleyes:

Rachel B
12-10-2006, 04:54 PM
Originally posted by InLove_with_Chloe
Oh, I am pretty sure that he believes Chloe has moved on... And that's exactly why he's becoming more interested in her again.
That's how men are. Primitive, that's the word...
:rolleyes:

Yep I agree..........about the Clark thinkin' that Chloe moved on part..........ok also about the men being primitive. :p

InLove_with_Chloe
12-10-2006, 05:36 PM
Originally posted by Rachel B
Yep I agree..........about the Clark thinkin' that Chloe moved on part..........ok also about the men being primitive. :p
Sorry to be so honest.
:D

D.M.A.
12-10-2006, 11:10 PM
Originally posted by InLove_with_Chloe
Oh, I am pretty sure that he believes Chloe has moved on... And that's exactly why he's becoming more interested in her again.
That's how men are. Primitive, that's the word...
:rolleyes:
I agree that's why him stoppin their kiss is funny to me,plus his arent u 2 still on the clock :lol: .But yes he definitely thinks she's moved on yet will still want her,he jus will be afraid to act on it(Well atleast til alil redk hits clark :D )

freefall
01-16-2007, 07:24 AM
Originally posted by BadToad
I never get these types of posts. So, because in the past, Clark wasn't interested in Chloe romantically, but he was interested in other woman, that means he was treating her badly? So, any teenage guy that is good friends with a girl, and ACTS accordingly, but doesn't return her affections if she feels more, is treating her badly? I don't agree with that at all. Clark never pretended otherwise. Clark reassured Chloe as a friend many times over. Clark was there for Chloe in significant ways over and over again. The fact that he was in love with someone else does not constitute, *to me*, that he was treating her badly.


I agree with you, Clark being in love with someone else would never constitute him as treating Chloe badly. But he could have been more sensitive to her, knowing that she's been harbouring feelings for him for God knows how long. Like when (forgot which episode) he whined to Chloe for the nth time, "You don't know how hard is it to see them together," referring to Lana and Lex. Come on, Chloe didn't know how hard it is? He can't even give her credit where it's due.

He came across as very selfish and thoughtless when he goes on his Lana-mode to Chloe, that's what makes me think of him as treating her badly.