MAJOR REVELATION! Spoiler?

[shazam4335]

ok, yeah, this is really speculation about two things so dont get too excited, but one of these has a real good point.

1) I beleive claire dies sometime in the near future

I hope im wrong about this one, but think about it. When Hiro came back from the future to advize peter in the subway, he mentioned that peter in the future has a scar. Peter's power involves the almost instinctual use of other peoples power. Claire's power is to regenerate. So unless for some reason Peter and Claire are never near eachother again.....Peter should be able to heal from any scar as long as he sees claire atleast once. THe only reason this might not happen is if Claire were to die. I do hope im wrong here. perhaps she loses her power, and again im even hoping im wrong in that.

2) THis one involves a question. How did peter and nathan's dad really die again? suicide, not heart-attack, right? BUt i cant remember hte specifics of that suicide. Was it by any chance jumping off a building or something. My theory is, if thats true, Nathan murdered their father by flying him up and dropping him somewhere in retaliation for Linderman's attack on his wife. I cant be sure of this. but its a thought.

let me know what you all thing

[superhippie2000]

this should go in the spoiler section on the link above.


anyway im wondering how peter will get the scar. we still dont know if he had one from the other day or not. he was to bloody to tell and he may not have had enough of clairs power to finish healing so he got a scar. i dont think he would lose the scar if he was near her cause its already healed just a mark left.


i think last night they said heart attack but in the first episode or something i think they said it was suicide. perhaps there will be a revelation at some point about what happened before that six months or a secret coming out between the 6 months and the time the first episode aired.

[shazam4335]

sorry bout that, didnt even see the spoiler section. I rewatched the end of the last couple of episodes and saw the preview for the next one. No visible scar on peter, altho your reasoning that a scar is healed tissue does make sense, yet if that was true in the show's reality, Claire would be riddled with scars from past injuries. But i really hope your right, and im wrong.

[Sharkie]

Well remember in the original time line, Claire was supposedly not saved, so now that Claire was saved from evil Sylar, the future should in theory be different.

[shazam4335]

oh hey! thats a great point!... hope this doesnt mean we will be missing out on badass version of hero.

[superhippie2000]

wait but if hiro changes and never went back in time to tell peter then peter would have never known and the cheerleader would still be dead.

[Randy G.]

Ahh the complexities of the space-time *********. :lol:
Always makes for great discussion. :)

[superhippie2000]

ya but i dont think i will go into the confusion in detial like i tried to do before lol.

[shazam4335]

its actually ok. as a professional nerd iv had that paradox bug me one too many times. iv decided that this is a timeline, and if someone goes back and reappears in that timeline in the past, that they then permanently exist in that time. Even if, by doing whatever they do in the past, prevents them for ever having a reason to travel back in the first place. The person who arrived in the past, still existed even if only for moments, even if they didnt have a source. Because they initially did come from somewhere, a destroyed timeline, maybe. i know. thats really convoluted and probably only makes sense to me. but if you read it slowly, maybe just maybe it will prove im not crazy......

[TARDIS Team]

Originally posted by shazam4335
ok, yeah, this is really speculation about two things so dont get too excited, but one of these has a real good point.

1) I beleive claire dies sometime in the near future

I hope im wrong about this one, but think about it. When Hiro came back from the future to advize peter in the subway, he mentioned that peter in the future has a scar. Peter's power involves the almost instinctual use of other peoples power. Claire's power is to regenerate. So unless for some reason Peter and Claire are never near eachother again.....Peter should be able to heal from any scar as long as he sees claire atleast once. THe only reason this might not happen is if Claire were to die. I do hope im wrong here. perhaps she loses her power, and again im even hoping im wrong in that.


He would heal from an injury sustained while in Claire’s vicinity. So far as we know, he can’t use the power he absorbs for very long after separating from the person (he can only fly when he’s near Nathan, for example). If Claire is not around when he receives the injury, there’s every good chance it will heal naturally and leave a scar. Once he’s got the scar, the only way I could see it healing correctly if he was to re-injure himself in the same spot while in Claire’s presence, which really would be a whole lot of hassle for nothing. Scars add character, after all.

[chrisxs5]

Of course the scar could be surgical! Maybe when hes around Sylar he takes his brain and retrofits himself with permanent powers.

[zelly]

Peter is too 'hero like' too steal someones brain for powers. Know what i eman. Also knowone knows what Sylar actually does with the brains, so what would he do with Sylar's brain anyway. I think he eats them though :p, yum yum.

[chrisxs5]

Originally posted by superhippie2000
wait but if hiro changes and never went back in time to tell peter then peter would have never known and the cheerleader would still be dead.

For Future Hiro the cheerleader has always been saved. Having lived through the saving of her, he knew that in order for his past to stay the same he had to go back and give Peter that message. I would assume that Future Peter even gives him the date and time and subway location to go to in order not to change past events. See its not complicated at all.

[Ketchup]

umm the way scars work contradict your first point. scar tissue doesn't need to be "healed," it's healthy tissue that Claire's powers wouldn't effect. once a scar is formed, it is a part of the body

as for claire dying in general, really hope that doesn't happen, she's freaking hot.


Originally posted by chrisxs5
For Future Hiro the cheerleader has always been saved. Having lived through the saving of her, he knew that in order for his past to stay the same he had to go back and give Peter that message. I would assume that Future Peter even gives him the date and time and subway location to go to in order not to change past events. See its not complicated at all.

That is one way to look at it.
You could also say that the reason Future Hiro went back in the first place was cuz the future was seriously screwed up and he needed to change it. By sending the message back, he created an alternate timeline in which there's a chance for a change. But by doing so, he effectively destroyed years of history and created a time paradox. In fact if the writers for Heroes have ever seen Back to the Future, perhaps they could have thought of this.

[chrisxs5]

An alternative timeline is of course a possibility but of course it was the past. I dont think there is way future hero can go back and change the past. In reality it has already happened. He can think he is going back and changing things but it has already happened. But with that in mind, if they stop the explosion that will prove me wrong.

[FUZZYWOOKIEE]

I do not think that alternative timelines will play any part in the first couple seasons of this show as this first season seems to be all about origins and seeing where all our heroes end up in the grand scheme of good and evil. If Peter does wind up with a scar it will probably be something that he gets the opportunity to heal yet does not, so as to keep it as a reminder of something. I do not think the scar will come into play for a little while either.

[christian_kryptonian]

I don't think he has the scar at this point, and when hegets it, it will most likely be very obvious becase Hiro said he looked different without it, indicating it was a pretty bad scar. The spoilers also state he may be getting a hair style change. Maybe this is because he gets cut in the forehead and he gets the scar and his hair is cut in the process.

[phantom222]

ok, yeah, this is really speculation about two things so dont get too excited, but one of these has a real good point.

1) I beleive claire dies sometime in the near future

I hope im wrong about this one, but think about it. When Hiro came back from the future to advize peter in the subway, he mentioned that peter in the future has a scar. Peter's power involves the almost instinctual use of other peoples power. Claire's power is to regenerate. So unless for some reason Peter and Claire are never near eachother again.....Peter should be able to heal from any scar as long as he sees claire atleast once. THe only reason this might not happen is if Claire were to die. I do hope im wrong here. perhaps she loses her power, and again im even hoping im wrong in that.

2) THis one involves a question. How did peter and nathan's dad really die again? suicide, not heart-attack, right? BUt i cant remember hte specifics of that suicide. Was it by any chance jumping off a building or something. My theory is, if thats true, Nathan murdered their father by flying him up and dropping him somewhere in retaliation for Linderman's attack on his wife. I cant be sure of this. but its a thought.

let me know what you all thing

either your lookin too much into the scar thing or your on to somthing.after all in peters vision claire ran right up 2 him when he blew up.nathan did 2 but he could just fly away and the explosion might not hurt peter if he can some how reassamble himself ,but i dought claire could protect herself from an explosion like that.even with her powers she was 2 close 2 peter and mabye she will die

hope not though

[FUZZYWOOKIEE]

Has anyone else noticed that Nathan actually has an existing scar on his left cheek around the jaw line. Could it be that Nathan takes Peter's place in the future, or am I reading too much into this??

[phelan120]

here's a thought. What if Hiro's goal in going back in time wasn't to stop the explosion? They make a big deal out of saying that Hiro can not change the past. I think that is why his powers are dwindling after trying to save waitress chick. What if something happens as a result of the explosion that the Heroe's need to prepare for. Maybe Claire's "father's" orginazation goes public and takes over as a result of the explosion... it's an X-men theme, but the explosion terifies people so much that tagging Hereo's becomes acceptable and they forced into concentration camps. Didn't future Hiro mention Peter's role in the "Resistance"?

[christian_kryptonian]

Ok so basically I retract my last post. I don't know how Peter is going to manage to get a scar when he can use Claire's power. It just doesn't click. I dunno. Maybe he can't use the power if the source of the absorbtion dies. Who knows. I don't want anyone to die, but I know it's coming.

[SuckMyJagon]

another mind blower...
niki/jessica ..asuming niki has super strength/jessica has ability to jump into peoples bodies....
peter comes into contact with niki/jess .. gains that ability..
later kaboom peter blows up, but get this hes dead but jumps into nathan .. so like niki/jess we get nathan/peter.. little bit of support for this theory is nathan has that scar on his cheek... and hiro said he looked "alot" different ... (c'mon people how much can a scar change your appearance) and with clairebears powers peter cant gain a scar so im thinking it would have to be pre-existing
im sure nathan would have no problem sharing a body with his little bro rather than letting him not exist alltogether

.. tho this could all be blown outta the water cuz peter could get a haircut and it was mentioned before that milo (the actor that portrays peter if you dont know already) has a scar on his dome covered by his flowing lochs... and a haircut does change appearance very much so, and you got the scar showin too

[chrisxs5]

I'm sorry top say, I dont think either of those are correct. Fantastic theories! Peter was asked to do something with his hair becuase it was hard to keep consistentcy on the show. So I believe he agreed to shave his head as long as they gave him a scar. I believe Ausiello wrote about that. I did read the article tho.

Now how do they give him the scar? I think Mohinder and Nathan will try to get into his head(literally) to see what they can do. But he will have to be completely out of it for a period of time for him not to heal himself now that he knows how to regenerate.

[phelan120]

we also could be over reading this. Peter never would have met Claire to gain her power if Hiro didn't come back from the future on the subway, so my guess about the scar is that Peter will never get it now because Hiro changed the past...er, changed the present or future?... by coming back to peter on the train