Love it? Hate it? Chapter Twelve - Godsend

[superhippie2000]

Episode 1.12: This episode will feature two possibly new recurring characters Aron Malsky, an accountant-type man who works for a powerful man and has no problem doing dirty work, and an overworked and not really successful public defender. FBI agents are investigating several murders that have occurred under mysterious circumstances. An athletic prison guard gets beaten up by an inmate. A SWAT team invades the offices of a large company. A new recurring character will be introduced in episode 12. He is an intense and wise mentor with an edge named Claude. He is said to be an imposing man with a gruff exterior. Supposedly, someone we will grow to love

[superhippie2000]

Claude, an invisible man played by British actor Christopher Eccleston (Doctor Who), appears Jan. 22. "He's been living with his invisibility for many years and has come to grips with it, so he'll give us a different view into this hero world," [Tim] Kring explains. "He's big, imposing and charismatic, and will become a mentor to Peter — albeit a tough, reluctant and stern one. He'll help Peter learn to use and control his powers."

[binkys711]

Oh! I had read the one on top ^^^ but not what the epi was about. Thanks for da info. Makes a clearer picture for me now :p

[khufu]

Originally posted by superhippie2000
Claude, an invisible man played by British actor Christopher Eccleston (Doctor Who), appears Jan. 22. "He's been living with his invisibility for many years and has come to grips with it, so he'll give us a different view into this hero world," [Tim] Kring explains. "He's big, imposing and charismatic, and will become a mentor to Peter — albeit a tough, reluctant and stern one. He'll help Peter learn to use and control his powers." Whoa, whoa, whoa..... for many years??? Interesting, considering everyone else has only had their powers for about 6 months..... very interesting.

[superhippie2000]

12/18 - When I was on the set this week, I noticed a big, fancy prison set, and Masi told me we’d find out what it’s for in episode 12 or 13. It did not look like the cell that Peter was in, so I’m intrigued! Source: Kristin on E!Online [Note: This spoiler could be for episode 13.]

[Superboy2]

So episode 12 airs jan 22. Cool.

[superhippie2000]

12/30 - Bryan Fuller, co-Executive Producer/Writer, revealed in an interview that episode 12 would feature the Haitian and some crazy effects. The episode's first minutes are filled with OMG moments. Source: The Comics Podcasts Network [Note: Click on the link to download the podcast. The interview is about mid-podcast.]
12/30 - Ando is in this episode. Source: SpoilerFix.com

[superhippie2000]

12/31 - Tim Kring reveals: Ted disappeared at the end of Episode Nine and doesn’t show up again until 12. He breaks out. He’s abducted and then he breaks out. He’s hell bent on finding out what happened to him. Ted is a really a fun character, but we drop him for several episodes while he’s out there in the wind.

[bittersweetxo]

oo im so excited for this episode, can't wait for those OMG moments

[chrisxs5]

I think it would be cool for Peter to be walking down the street and just turn invisible. Standing there and all of a suden just be completely see thru. To me that would really cool.

[ProdigalSon1979]

I can't wait. This show is at the top of its game. It's lost mixed with xmen and its what *ahem* smallville used to be.

[lostinspace]

I'm fairly certain most fans have seen the previews already, but since I'm new here - thought I'd add a link to my LJ post (http://balikpulang.livejournal.com/25623.html) where I've compiled all the Ep 12 (and beyond) sneak previews and clips thus far.

Enjoy!

[chrisxs5]

I actually missed all that and appreciate the chancew to catch them, thanks.

[superhippie2000]

FOLLOWING PAINFUL REVELATIONS AND SHOCKING CHANGES, MANY "HEROES" STRUGGLE TO MOVE FORWARD AS A NEW HERO (GUEST STAR CHRISTOPHER ECCLESTON) IS REVEALED -- Picking up two weeks after recent events, Nathan's (Adrian Pasdar) determination to save a comatose Peter (Milo Ventimiglia) forces him to turn to Simone (Tawny Cypress) for help. Isaac's (Santiago Cabrera) puzzling "Hiro vs. T-Rex" painting inspires Hiro (Masi Oka) and Ando (guest star James Kyson Lee) to search for the pictured samurai sword. Jessica (Ali Larter) struggles against Niki's decision to turn herself into police. With his associate Eden dead and Matt (Greg Grunberg) on his heels, H.R.G. (Jack Coleman) tries to focus on his orders regarding Sylar (guest star Zachary Quinto). After being offered a choice by the Haitian (guest star Jimmy Jean-Louis), Claire (Hayden Panettiere) struggles with changes her decision has wrought. Taking up his father's quest, Suresh (Sendhil Ramamurthy) attempts to share information about who is "on the list" of people with special abilities and the threats to their lives. Meanwhile, a new hero (guest star Christopher Eccleston) makes a shocking debut. Leonard Roberts and Noah Gray-Cabey also star. Thomas Dekker, Clea DuVall, Lisa Lackey and Cristine Rose guest star.

[warriorrenegade]

I can't wait for this episode.

[ramjeetp]

I think it is a great move by the TPTB to bring in Christopher Eccleston into the show. I don't know if any of you saw him in Doctor Who, but he was brilliant in that. I think C. Eccleston has wanted to join a US show for a while now as he was rumoured to be in an episode of Smallville Season 5 but as we know that never happened.

He was in the film 28 Days Later if anyone wanted to know.

I wonder what speaking accent he will have as he does have a really strong Northern UK accent.

[lostinspace]

I adored Chris as the Ninth Doctor. He really revived the franchise and I wished he stuck around longer though his farewell scenes/eps were done well.

As for his Northern accent, heck, bring it on! I love the show's diversity, and even the somewhat exaggerated Japanese and Indian speech that Masi (Oka) and Sendhil (Mohinder) use.

Looking forward to "seeing" Doctor Claude on Jan 22. He'll whip Peter into shape, I hope!

[lostinspace]

Ausiello watched Ep 12 Godsend in advance, and released hints about the ep as well as what to expect for the Feb sweeps and beyond, based on his interview with Tim Kring.

Full article from this link: http://community.tvguide.com/forum.jspa?forumID=700000049

My guesses below:

For the rest of 2007:
- Claire's bio dad will be revealed (big shocker) in Feb (I'm thinking Linderman or ogod, Papa Petrelli?!)
- The upcoming major character death will be someone in the first few mins of Genesis (most likely Simone or Mohinder - I checked the first 5 mins - b/c Peter is still around... and hopefully, Nathan and HRG will be too!)
- A future episode will feature a flashback to Claire's adoption
- Random comments: Sylar's motivations, the issue with Zach (Thomas Dekker), Hiro finds love again in S2, and .... Milo's bangs will go after S1! (Half the fandom cheers while the other half cries at this)

For Ep 12:
* A female character is written off (possibly forever).
Either Jessica or Niki? (That would go with those scenes of her in a strait jacket getting the "needle")
* Hiro has a run-in with a T-Rex.
... in the museum. Masi threw us a lot of curve balls there.
* A major scene from the pilot gets reenacted.
Zach filming Claire's suicide attempts?
* Christopher Eccleston makes his debut.
* An estranged couple patches things up.
Isaac and Simone? Matt and Audrey?
* A hero's powers begin to diminish.
Hiro (from the AICN report (http://www.aintitcool.com/node/31189))
* There's an unexpected (and pretty frakkin' hilarious) reunion between two heroes.
Hiro and Nathan (from Leno's sneak preview clip)

[chrisxs5]

All great stuff, cant wait!

[warriorrenegade]

Whoa very cool article LostInSpace, thanks.

[superhippie2000]

01/16 - Picking up two weeks after recent events, Nathan's determination to save a comatose Peter forces him to turn to Simone (Tawny Cypress) for help. Isaac's puzzling "Hiro vs. T-Rex" painting inspires Hiro and Ando (guest star James Kyson Lee) to search for the pictured samurai sword. Jessica struggles against Niki's decision to turn herself into police. With his associate Eden dead and Matt on his heels, H.R.G. tries to focus on his orders regarding Sylar (guest star Zachary Quinto). After being offered a choice by the Haitian (guest star Jimmy Jean-Louis), Claire struggles with changes her decision has wrought. Taking up his father's quest, Suresh attempts to share information about who is "on the list" of people with special abilities and the threats to their lives. Meanwhile, a new hero (guest star Christopher Eccleston) makes a shocking debut. Leonard Roberts and Noah Gray-Cabey also star. Thomas Dekker, Clea DuVall, Lisa Lackey and Cristine Rose guest star. Source: NBC

[aLaNa]

i'm not sure where i got this from but i think that it is simone who dies.

[kaykiwi]

I agree that it is Simone who dies because both Claire and Niki/Jessica appear in future spoilers. Simone is the only female left! Isaac and Peter will be so sad.

[KSiteTV]

New interview with Christopher Eccleston:

http://www.herosite.net/eccleston.htm

Check it out and let me know what you think!

[superhippie2000]

that was good. its cool that you get to do interviews with these actors and stuff.

that part with peter and him flying sounded intresting since im assuming nathan wouldnt be there. Guess that means peter can keep the powers of the people he is near. Sounds like he will be doing a good job in this episode and the rest of the series.

He mentioned about choosing between 2 roles and the other one was a bad guy. why do i have the feeling he may have been refering to linderman.

[ramjeetp]

I think Linderman will have to be played by an American actor. C. Eccleston didn't want to be another European bad guy actor, which is done all too much on US TV shows.

I'm just glad he agreed to join this great show and that he is going to be in multiple episodes!!!

[chrisxs5]

I found interesting his mention of being apart of a previous generation of heroes. If I were to speculate (and I am) I would say that every set period of time heroes are developed by, some kind of group, and this would be the story of this set. I have said in previous post that it still interesting that alot of people with powers are related.

[Novak Fan]

It will be a female the one who'll die?? Mmmm what this guys have against women :mad: anyway, even with that Simone seems the only dispensable for me. Some people said that maybe Jessice takes Nikki's place forever though. With that she would be another big villian ;)

[superhippie2000]

The episode, titled "Godsend," begins with the superimposition "Two Weeks Later" (which puts it just three weeks before Nov. 8, when Manhattan goes boom). As the episode begins, Hiro, Nathan and Peter have all returned to New York, where we learn Hiro’s powers have been diminishing since he failed to rescue his waitress-girlfriend Charlie. Peter, meanwhile, is in a coma, reliving the dream of apocalypse. It turns out that Sylar did not escape PrimaTech Paper following the unpleasantness with Eden. Claire’s nerd-pal, Zach, isn’t gone for good after all. Nathan comes to remark that Hiro’s English is much improved. Hiro attributes this to Charlie, who taught him "many things." Niki, while in Vegas stir, makes a very interesting discovery about herself. I think. We do not learn to whom Jack Bennet reports, but a plural pronoun is employed. The shadowy "Linderman" does not yet surface (at least not overtly), but the name "Linderman" comes up a lot. Peter does not fly, but there are special effects aplenty.The new Christopher Eccleston character is indeed introduced in this episode. He sports a beard and we don’t meet him till near episode’s end. And here’s how it ends, spoiler boys: "Who needs God when you got me?" Source: Ain't It Cool News

[Chlarkerlover]

sounds awsome. come oh come monday.... :lol:

[superhippie2000]

o man totally forgot about the date. new episodes do start tommorow huh.

[Novak Fan]

I can't wait, yay :D BTW when they are introduce us Hana?

[STFanatic]

Two hours & three minutes to go till a brand spankin' new episode!!

[MidgardDragon]

51 minutes and counting. :D

[STFanatic]

Anyone watching?

AWEfreakinSOME!!

How could it not be a "10"?

[MidgardDragon]

Of course I'm watching. I'm surprised this board isn't more active considering how popular Heroes is. I'm loving it so far, it's a 8.5 or a 9/10. It'll have to pull of a spectacular ending to be a 10.

[jimmyolsenblues]

Nothing really happened this episode.
Claire put another jump on tape. A sword, Mom is tough. Sirus is a zombie.
Give me something I waited for this?

[MidgardDragon]

It wasn't really that nothing happened, just the events weren't huge like the pre-hiatus episode. This episode was a setup, the major players have been pushed further towards where they are supposed to be. And how about that preview for next week's episode? The person on the other end of the phone sounded like Niki. :O

[STFanatic]

Whoa... that was killer!!

Usually this board is a flurry of activity during the show.
I was so into the episode I wasn't keeping track on the board myself.

One hour is not enough for Heroes :(

[superhippie2000]

i liked this episode. a bit disappointed the t rex was just a fake tho. peters dreams didnt give much except showing the invisable man and nathan standing by him. Im glad they are starting to all connect and nathan is actually going towards his destiny too.

[CallMeClark]

I thought it was pretty good. Wasn't one of their best but it was a good "filler" if you will. I know they will pull out the stops for February Sweeps though. I still find Claire and Peter the two most interesting.

Hey, what did Niki say during the last 10 seconds? I missed that part.

[STFanatic]

I am thinking he hasn't met the real dinosaur yet, The painting shows a blade, he didn't have the blade in the museum yet.

[mariolegosu]

Originally posted by jimmyolsenblues
Nothing really happened this episode.
Claire put another jump on tape. A sword, Mom is tough. Sirus is a zombie.
Give me something I waited for this?
You can't have something epic every single episode. Like a poster above said, this was a "set-up" episode. Next episode will be really good because we had this episode.

[superhippie2000]

Originally posted by CallMeClark
I thought it was pretty good. Wasn't one of their best but it was a good "filler" if you will. I know they will pull out the stops for February Sweeps though. I still find Claire and Peter the two most interesting.

Hey, what did Niki say during the last 10 seconds? I missed that part.


nikki said god please help me then jessica said i am god. something close to that.

[mariolegosu]

She said:
"Who needs God when you've got me?"

[STFanatic]

It was ..

Nikki: "God help me."

Jessica: "Who needs God when you got me."

[superhippie2000]

ya thats right.

[STFanatic]

Tomorrow on NBC/Rewind website you can watch it again, that is if you didn't record it.

[Sharkie]

I'm glad Zach knows again.

[STFanatic]

I know Zach is leaving soon, but I am glad they are using him for now.
I just hope they (HRG) don't kill him, that would really mess up Claire big time.

"Mess up the cheerleader, mess up the world" :D

[warriorrenegade]

Well I gave it a 5. I just felt like it was moving slow. I was anxious for something to happen to WOW me, but nothing. Still it was a good episode. Like some have said its was a setup episode. Clarie has matured overnight it seems. I guess it was the new wardrobe that threw me LOL. The moments with Matt and HRG were awesome. Those scenes I liked. Also glad to see Zach being brought back into the fold, but I didn't know he was leaving the show so thats a bummer. Ah well just don't kill the guy off. Leave it where he could come back.


Originally posted by STFanatic
It was ..

Nikki: "God help me."

Jessica: "Who needs God when you got me."

That was a killer line. Loved the fade to black at the end. Did anyone else notice when Nikki was pleading with the guard to hug her son that it was Nikki who broke the club not Jessica.

[STFanatic]

Originally posted by warriorrenegade
Well I gave it a 5. I just felt like it was moving slow. I was anxious for something to happen to WOW me, but nothing. Still it was a good episode. Like some have said its was a setup episode. Clarie has matured overnight it seems. I guess it was the new wardrobe that threw me LOL. The moments with Matt and HRG were awesome. Those scenes I liked. Also glad to see Zach being brought back into the fold, but I didn't know he was leaving the show so thats a bummer. Ah well just don't kill the guy off. Leave it where he could come back.



That was a killer line. Loved the fade to black at the end. Did anyone else notice when Nikki was pleading with the guard to hug her son that it was Nikki who broke the club not Jessica.

Yes, I was about to mention that.
She looked shocked when she did that, I was thinking that was the first step to intergrating the two.

The Zack Actor is now in a leading role as "John Connor" on the new series (coming soon) "The Sarah Conner Chronicles" a Terminator spin off.

[Lexgirl33]

I liked this episode though I thought we were going to see more of Christopher Eccleston (BTW him with an american accent is strange lol). I guess that is next weeks episode. Love how the replica sword was connected to Linderman. Overall, I am glad HEROES is back on!! :D

[Theshadow129x]

I liked it i gave it a 9. the show is all about taking its pace and telling a story not everyone using their powers to blow crap up and thats what i like most about this show. character progression not character regression *im looking at you smallville* Yes nothing too big as going on but at the same time i think there's bigger things instore for the show before they go back in hiatus.

[UDStyle]

I enjoyed it.. Like I enjoy all the episodes.. they are never really dull for some reason.

The one thing that was done was a new character was introduced. That's cool but I like that things are constantly coming together for all the Heroes.

[ginnyfan]

I liked this episode. I like the whole Godsend theme.

Has Hiro always done the "I dream of jeannie head nod to restart time?"

I loved the Charlie mentions.

Loved seeing Claire fight for her relationship with Zach.

Enjoyed seeing Sylar on his last leg. I'll enjoy it while it lasts.

I'm sleepy. I'll come back later. I'll give this episode an eight.

[yellowqueen22]

A lot of people complain about these episodes without the major reveals, but I find that they tend to be the better episodes in some sense, because they take the time to develop character.

It was a huge episode for Claire character development. She realized how alone she was in her life. She realized how much she had truly cared about and relied on Zach. She dealt with the burden of being unable to trust HRG, and she was always a daddy's girl in dealing with him before.

As for Peter, the dreams revealed very little and were a bit on the over the top side, but at least it was an interesting way of revealing Claude. The only thing I don't get is where are these dreams coming from. Is this another power that he is developing or are we supposed to assume something else. Also, the whole Issac - Simone - Peter triangle is not terribly interesting since I don't particularly love Simone, and don't really care who she ends up with. I just wonder what role she's going to play in all of this, since they keep featuring her so much.

There were also lots of great connection moments... moments when everything starts connection. I loved when Hiro saw Nathan in Issac's loft and called him flying man - their reunion was adorable. I loved Suresh finally meeting HRG after the taxi cab incident and thinking he was the bad guy for so long. On a side note, interesting that HRG asked Suresh whether he was on the list and Suresh completely ignored the question. It was great when Suresh learned the truth about Eden. And fantastic when Matt confronted HRG. Another great moment is Simone realizing all the connections and just deciding to go along with it, offering her help with Linderman (boy oh boy are they building the tension with Linderman). I love the way that everything is just tying together.

I'm still not all that thrilled with the whole Nikki/Jessica storyline. I just don't get where it is going and find it less interesting than the rest of the storylines. I guess Nikki represents a power gone wrong, much like HRG suggested to Suresh and like Peter's dream is suggesting about himself. Nikki needs some heroic help and soon. However, the final interchange between Nikki and Jessica, as many stated above, was fantastic. Plus, Ali is doing a good job at creating two distinct characters.

[Jaded Wolf]

I gave this episode an eight. Overall it was good and once again Hiro steals the show. I laughed a good one when he stole the fake sword and when he recognized Nathan as "Flyman". Great episode. I wish it was at a different time slot so I could watch 24 also but that's what VCRs are for (Yep I am old school).

[STFanatic]

Here is another "Super" connection from Heroes.

Stacy Haiduk was Lana Lang in the Superboy TV series, she now is the FBI lady that jumped all over Matt Parkman & his new boss lady.
(She is still a redhead too Giggity giggitty giggity!)

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001307/

[Jaded Wolf]

Originally posted by STFanatic
Here is another "Super" connection from Heroes.

Stacy Haiduk was Lana Lang in the Superboy TV series, she now is the FBI lady that jumped all over Matt Parkman & his new boss lady.
(She is still a redhead too Giggity giggitty giggity!)

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001307/

That was her! Holy crap I did not recognize her and I have the season 1 DVDs for Superboy. That's cool.

[STFanatic]

That is my next DVD purchase.
The only place I have found it (without ordering it) is at Fry's electronics/computer store.

[warriorrenegade]

Originally posted by yellowqueen22
A lot of people complain about these episodes without the major reveals, but I find that they tend to be the better episodes in some sense, because they take the time to develop character.

You got a point. I'll admit I may have jumped the gun here and overlooked the episodes character moments. I believe it had something to do with the "hoopla" surrounding Heroes return from its hiatus. I believe alot of fans were expecting some big reveal or some WOW moment, instead we got character development. It was unexpected, it seems many aren't used to seeing it:D

[STFanatic]

Oh wow!!

You can see the full episode on NBC Rewind with cast comentary, I didn't see that the first time I went to watch it.

http://www.nbc.com/Heroes/video/commentary.shtml

Gonna watch that now.

[KSiteTV]

I loved "Godsend" because the characters continue to organically interact. Plus, how cool is it that they have Chris Eccleston on the show now? My only complaint may have been that we barely saw him (hey - not an invisible joke there).

[STFanatic]

Originally posted by KryptonSite
I loved "Godsend" because the characters continue to organically interact. Plus, how cool is it that they have Chris Eccleston on the show now? My only complaint may have been that we barely saw him (hey - not an invisible joke there).

(drum rimshot)

I was hoping for him to be in the episode earlier, but from what I read on your Herosite.net, I knew it would be toward the end.

My wife & I are jazzed about CE.

And IMO, it gets better each week.

I am waiting to find out if "The invisible man" is always invisible, or can he be seen as well.

[Jaded Wolf]

Originally posted by STFanatic
That is my next DVD purchase.
The only place I have found it (without ordering it) is at Fry's electronics/computer store.

I actually found it in the PX here on base. I didn't even know at the time it had came out. I saw it, had a flashback to when I watched it as a kid, and bought it on impulse. It brought back some memories and I had a good laugh at the special effects and fight scenes but with some of those shows if they are good those other things are barely noticeable.

[STFanatic]

During the time it was on TV, I was working at a job where I couldn't watch TV, and when the second season came out I was on a cross country motorcycle ride that lasted just short of two years.
(my first trip was started in 1977 and lasted into 1979, I really should write a book about that)
So I didn't know the series existed until Smallville was announced and was about to air, folks were discussing if the series were going to be simuliar.

[elfstone2087]

I thought it was a really good episode. It's nice to have Heroes back! I gave this episode a 9. Good stuff.

[Novak Fan]

I love this episode, really. WellI love all of them :P but yeah, this one was good. I love to see more from Jessica, who she can "take" Nikki's body without a mirror near. And i really liked the scene with some of the Heroes reunited: Hiro, Nathan and Isaac. I'm with STFanatic: I want to find out if Claude is invisible if he wants to be or not.