Are you joking me Lana?

[SmallvilleMan]

There should be a level 33.1? Just when you think they can't go any lower with Lana, they actually go lower.:rolleyes:

[shy175223]

well, Almiles did say she would turn into evil Lana. I guess that was proof.

[SmallvilleMan]

They did? Well, isn't that great......This my fault, why did I watch this episode?

[cmm]

she's dumber than a bunch of rocks I mean even Jimmy saw that something was there granted he may not have known about 33.1 but he had some idea. Also, nothing existed down there why were there all the frayed live wires?

[SmallvilleMan]

Man, that isn't even the point any more. The point is destroying Lana's character into a billion pieces then crapping on it 2 billion times.

[Tia]

Also why would there be a security card and an actually floor called 33.1 thats not normal, the next floor should be 34.

[*#~ ClAnAfAn99210~#*]

lana is very dumb to say yes also

[Fred the Man]

Watching Lana go on and on about Lex, her conversation with Chloe about 33.1, reminded me about an episode of "Lois and Clark" where Tempst is making fun of Lois, speculating that Lois Lane was the dumbest woman ever. He was wrong. Lana Lang from the show "Smallvile" IS the dumbest woman ever. I look forward to the day that Lana learns the whole true about Lex, when she realizes how incredibly stupid she has been, the look on her face at that moment will be priceless.

[MidgardDragon]

No one likes Lana when she's a goody-goody, no one likes Lana when she's evil. We get it, heard it all before.

[Coyote]

Well, Lana has been stalked, attacked, and kidnapped by those psycho meteor freaks several dozen times. So it makes sense that she wouldn't mind having the creeps locked up and experimented on.

[TheEradicator6]

Originally posted by Fred the Man
Watching Lana go on and on about Lex, her conversation with Chloe about 33.1, reminded me about an episode of "Lois and Clark" where Tempst is making fun of Lois, speculating that Lois Lane was the dumbest woman ever. He was wrong. Lana Lang from the show "Smallvile" IS the dumbest woman ever. I look forward to the day that Lana learns the whole true about Lex, when she realizes how incredibly stupid she has been, the look on her face at that moment will be priceless.

AMEN

ofcourse she may slowly turn evil and then it won't matter if she finds out haha

[SmallvilleMan]

No one likes Lana when she's a goody-goody, no one likes Lana when she's evil. We get it, heard it all before

Wrong! I loved Lana before this new turn she has had. The only people who hated Lana before were just haters and their examples were IMO weak for disliking her. A lot of people did like Lana too IMO, they just werent as loud as the lana haters. So that statement is off, imo.


Well, Lana has been stalked, attacked, and kidnapped by those psycho meteor freaks several dozen times. So it makes sense that she wouldn't mind having the creeps locked up and experimented on.

Except they're acutally people too and not everyone of them has turned bad. Remember the guy who Van killed at a car shop? Was he bad?

[emily feist]

I'm so glad Clark dumped her and decided not to tell her a second time around about his abilities. The fact that she actually thinks it's okay to kidnap people and experiment on them because they have powers, shows what kind of person she really is. Yeah, she's had tons of bad experiences with them, but not every super powered person is bad. I even remember back in season 1 or 2 when one healed her dying horse. I hope when the truth about Lex comes out she finally admits how f****** stupid she's always been. Hopefully, Clark will really be done with this waste of space moron.

[paolinki25]

She's become twisted like Lex. Clark should run as far away from her as possible.

[KLGChaos]

Yeah, as my roommate said-- Lana is 1) stupid and 2) her entire outlook is ruled by whatever emotion she is feeling that the time.

Personally, if Clark told her in the first place, I don't think she'd be the person she is now. Clark's own stupidity pushed her towards Lex (who is COMPLETELY out of character lately) and I honestly am beginning to think Lana is become MORE evil than Lex is supposed to be.

Who knows, maybe they'll do an alternate reality comic book where Lana kills off Lex, takes over as head of Lexcorp (and renames it Lanacorp) and becomes Supes main villain. :D

[angelfire east]

Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
Except they're acutally people too and not everyone of them has turned bad. Remember the guy who Van killed at a car shop? Was he bad?

Don't forget the little boy who called her mom, that she lovvvvvvved so much. :rolleyes: Or Jondon Cross who saved her life.

[SmallvilleMan]

No, if Clark told her she wouldn't be who she is right now. That's the whole point of is, Clark "drove" her to this. Which is partly true and partly false.

[paolinki25]

I think they need to make up their minds about Lana. If she's going to be completely corrupted by Lex, then go ahead, have her be his wife, but if they're not, then kill her already! :lol:

[DWBSR620]

Yep, they've definitely, completely, and irrefutably destroyed Lana to the point of no return. That's been obvious for a long time, the true matter is how they keep force feeding this junk down our throats week in and week out. I've loved Smallville from day one when I first got interested in it in the middle of Season 3. I own all the seasons on DVD, and watch it week in and week out. Yet I'm truly beginning to fine myself sick of each episode that this Lana storyline is shoved down our throats. I say enough, please Al/Miles, enough, it's as if this show is losing itself on this Lana/Lex love story that is a pathetic slap in the face, and an idiotic path of irreverent humility to the main storyline of Clark Kent becoming Superman. That's what we're interested in, that's what should be explored. I know many times, and many places on this board it's been said over, and over that the Lana character is done, been done, no more please, yet they TPTB can't get enough of this pathetic Lex/Lana love story. Well, one thing I'm certain of it isn't going away but soon fans will be. I believe this is one of the reasons the show doesn't gain viewers like it has the potential to. If they would concentrate on what this show is about, and realize what it isn't about, i.e. Lana Lang. this show would be so much better without the soap opera esq. quality that the Lana storyline adds, please quality is all we're asking, Lana's done. Knowing that there are obviously those who'll disagree with me, and defend Lana to the end, I respect your opinion though I disagree, respect mine as being an opinion. Take care.


Peace To All.

[SmallvilleMan]

Don't forget the little boy who called her mom, that she lovvvvvvved so much

I know A.E. I mean, can I strip every good argument(I'd say great, but i'll humble;) ) I ever made for Lana please? As a moderator, can you make that happen?

[Charissa70]

I tell you, It's Lana's mind going. She didn't go to Smallville Medical Center to be confirmed, but she was knocked out again for a while when she changed frequencies. Another concussion? I think her mind is jell-o and will believe anything Lex says.

[angelfire east]

Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
I know A.E. I mean, can I strip every good argument(I'd say great, but i'll humble;) ) I ever made for Lana please? As a moderator, can you make that happen?

:rotfl:

[Coyote]

Oh, a few meteor freaks can stay sane for a while, but eventually they pretty much all seem to go nuts. The kryptonite probably effects their minds. Even people who start good, like shaky Earl in Jitters, wind up going psycho. Considering that 9 out of 10 turn out homicidal maniacs, and it's difficult to predict when or if they will, it's probably best to quarantine them all and not let them run around loose. So Lana seems to have a logical point of view, especially after all she's been through because of crazy freaks.

[SmallvilleMan]

Oh, a few meteor freaks can stay sane for a while, but eventually they pretty much all seem to go nuts. The kryptonite probably effects their minds. Even people who start good, like shaky Earl in Jitters, wind up going psycho after a while. Considering that 9 out 10 turn out homicidal maniacs, and it's difficult to predict when or if they will, it's probably best to quarantine them all and not let them run around loose. So Lana seems to have a logical point of view, especially after all she's been through because of crazy freaks.

Yeah and of course Lex should have that power and the government for the United States:rolleyes: Secondly, It doesn't matter if 9 out of 10 go insane, what about that person? Does he deserve it? He should suffered, because someone else went nuts. Come on.....

[cmm]

I think the reason people hate this character so much is the fact that she's inconsitent. One minute she's on someones case saying they're liars and the next they can't be honest enough I honestly don't get why the writers make the character so schizo she makes zip sense in anything she does and says and they should realize this by now.

I also too found what she said about the victims fo the meteor shower to be mean and spiteful. I get that some of them are evil but that doesn't go for all.

[Statman29]

I personally think Lana said that she understood why a place like 33.1 would be necessary was to possibly get Lex to admit to it, I don't believe she trusts him at all.

[Man of Steels45x]

o common lana he is bald and it is ovious he's evil and a liar

[SmallvilleMan]

I don't get nor would I hate someone for being a hypocrite which cmmm described she is as a reason for hating a character, but what she did from reckoning until now I can see plenty of reasons.

[paolinki25]

I agree. She is inconsistent. That's why I believe TPTB need to make up their minds. Is she corrupted by Lex? or is she good? You can't have both.

[TheEradicator6]

i think evil lana should come now... that would at least be better than DUMB lana. She could be a Lex girl and cause mayhem... not yawning.

[myankskent]

Originally posted by paolinki25
I agree. She is inconsistent. That's why I believe TPTB need to make up their minds. Is she corrupted by Lex? or is she good? You can't have both.

You know what it is with Lana? It's a plot device to keep lexana going because TPTB don't have a clue what to do with Lex on this show. Without Lana, Lex's character has become a waste. That's the hole that TPTB have put themselves in with this crap.

[paolinki25]

It didn't seem like that to me. I think she's being corrupted by him. It's a fact Lana hates the freaks. It has been hinted in the past.

[emily feist]

I'm so tired of people giving the excuse that because he dumped her she was driven to Lex. She has free will like everyone else. No matter how hurt she was by him she didn't have to choose to be with Lex, she could've chose to go it alone for awhile. Everyone on this show have made bad choices that they had to take responsibility for and she should be no different. In the end she chose to make this bed and she needs to lie in it. She handled the break up in this way, then she gets what she gets. I don't blame Clark. She needs to grow up and deal with stuff in better ways than she has.

[LexLuv101]

They change Lana more than they change underwear lately, but I kind of like this change. At least she's not whining. The ultimate dark couple...yep, I can learn to dig it.

[TheEradicator6]

Originally posted by KLGChaos
Yeah, as my roommate said-- Lana is 1) stupid and 2) her entire outlook is ruled by whatever emotion she is feeling that the time.

Personally, if Clark told her in the first place, I don't think she'd be the person she is now. Clark's own stupidity pushed her towards Lex (who is COMPLETELY out of character lately) and I honestly am beginning to think Lana is become MORE evil than Lex is supposed to be.

Who knows, maybe they'll do an alternate reality comic book where Lana kills off Lex, takes over as head of Lexcorp (and renames it Lanacorp) and becomes Supes main villain. :D

LOL I actually wrote a fan fic with an evil Lana

thread:
http://www.kryptonsite.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=64178

[SmallvilleMan]

How can you not believe what Clark did had no affect? Remember, Lana has no one, besides Chloe basically and even she can't be there all the time. Losing Clark hurts Lana big time. How can you say what happened didn't affect her. Come on.

[paolinki25]

Originally posted by LexLuv101
They change Lana more than they change underwear lately, but I kind of like this change. At least she's not whining. The ultimate dark couple...yep, I can learn to dig it.

I can get behind a dark couple like Lexana, if they make up their minds and have Lana be corrutped and dark. I will project vomit if/when Lexana breaks up, we have season 1 Lana all over again asking Clark to love her. That's the inconsistency I'm talking about with this character.

[cmm]

Originally posted by myankskent
You know what it is with Lana? It's a plot device to keep lexana going because TPTB don't have a clue what to do with Lex on this show. Without Lana, Lex's character has become a waste. That's the hole that TPTB have put themselves in with this crap.

You know i'd say you've got that backwards because to me since not much is known of lana lang they've got nowhere to go with her. She's not that important later on other than the fact she was clark's first love.

[look_ma_no_pants]

does she still have the baby after going to the other frequency? it kind of looked like she was clutching her stomach. if she lost it, i think that would really turn her evil and completely against meteor freaks. even though she chose to go with him, she would still blame him.

but i totally agree with DWBSR620. the show should get back on topic.

[SmallvilleMan]

You know i'd say you've got that backwards because to me since not much is known of lana lang they've got nowhere to go with her. She's not that important later on other than the fact she was clark's first love.

And they already ruined that.....

[WriteAngel1]

I have to say yes, what clark did had a BIG effect on her. But she was always a weak and needy person IMO who allowed her emotions to lead her. It was inevitable and i am now enjoying lana misdirected trust in lex, hopefuly she will realize her mistake in time, and clark and lana can begin the long road back to friendship.

[myankskent]

Originally posted by cmm
You know i'd say you've got that backwards because to me since not much is known of lana lang they've got nowhere to go with her. She's not that important later on other than the fact she was clark's first love.

Well, I say this because I don't think that TPTB can write Lex Luthor without Lana. Lana is being used here, plain and simple. If Lex didn't have Lana, TPTB would be too stupid to write Clex scenes on this show. Notice how every single one of them these days are about Lana. It's very easy to create drama and angst by having Lana with Lex. Take Lana away from Lex, and TPTB wouldn't have a clue what to do with Lex because they are too stupid to write evil storylines involving him while he is on his own.

[Kreukie]

Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
How can you not believe what Clark did had no affect? Remember, Lana has no one, besides Chloe basically and even she can't be there all the time. Losing Clark hurts Lana big time. How can you say what happened didn't affect her. Come on.

People with no heart say things like that.

Of course what Clark did affected Lana!

[WriteAngel1]

But in agreement with this thread, its has always been hinted at the lana harbors deep resentment toward mutants. And clark was right to keep his secret from her on his second chance....

[SmallvilleMan]

They're too stupid period.

[emily feist]

I wasn't saying his break up didn't effect her. I'm saying that she still has choices. There comes a point when you have to decide where you'll from here. I'm just tired of all the free passes people give her. She's lost alot of people but so has everyone else on the show. I'm tired of the victim, damsel in distress, image she continues to carry. She has the right to be pissed at Clark, but she doesn't have to go with Lex. I have a heart but I also have a brain. So I know it is a difficult situation, but her mistakes are still her mistakes. I don't think I should be villified because I think her character should be given more growth than the writers are willing to create for her.

[WriteAngel1]

I agree with you emily feist, with some luck lana will actually have to suffer the consequences of her actions this time around. (and im not talking about community service) im talking about with the people around her.

[SmallvilleMan]

I agree, the writers should help Lana grow, but they're too stupid. I'm not saying it's all Clark's fault, it isn't, it's hers too. You have to take responsibility for your mistakes, just like Chloe had to. However, she's still a product of what happened, if she didn't die in reckoning, she wouldn't be like this.

[God-Man]

Eh, as crazy and evil as Lana has become, I would still like for her to find out about Clark. I guess there's this very small part of me that wants to keep the Clana alive.

[Wildfire]

If shes gone got that far I am kind of glad she does not know, but I do hope in the future she finds out and maybe it will humanize the metor freaks for her.

[spideyfan]

Chloe will soon start to see that Lana + Lex = Dark Lana

She will soon de-friend Lana and that IS a good thing!

I am glad CK broke up with that twisted witch!

[smallvillerocks45]

Originally posted by Coyote
Oh, a few meteor freaks can stay sane for a while, but eventually they pretty much all seem to go nuts. The kryptonite probably effects their minds. Even people who start good, like shaky Earl in Jitters, wind up going psycho. Considering that 9 out of 10 turn out homicidal maniacs, and it's difficult to predict when or if they will, it's probably best to quarantine them all and not let them run around loose. So Lana seems to have a logical point of view, especially after all she's been through because of crazy freaks.

See, the thing is, some of them were crazy to begin with...but those who started out normal and then changed (i.e. Earl) went crazy because people told them they were. I mean think about it, Earl asked Lionel where the secret level was, he asked everyone he could to confirm the fact that people were experimenting the meteor rocks, and they all looked at him like he was crazy. Lana, more than anyone should know what it feels like to be left out in the dark, had she not had friends like Chloe, Clark, or even Lex who more or less try to make her feel sane (even if they do bend the truth, they also keep her in check, so to speak...) she would be driven insane as well IMO.

[boywithbluehanger]

I would have the upmost rspect for KK if she just said to AlMiles "Ok guys, I know you guys like me a lot but I need to move on...the Lana charcter needs closure in the next three episodes and then I'm gone..."

I tell ya, money sure does take away the rational part of the brain sometimes. Sadly for her, KK is the next Katie Holmes.

[SmallvilleMan]

Now that I think about, it's all KK's fault. If she wasn't so damn hott i would never have started watching this show:mad:

[ClarksGal]

Maybe she's just hormonal? Pregnant women can sometimes be....testy... :)

[Creed0831]

Well Lex continues to lie to Lana. It appears to me that Lana is the type of person that will pick a fight with out first considering what someone is telling her. Te me she reflected afterwards and had doubts. Her comment about the metor freaks to Lex seemed to me like a badly written ploy to get Lex to spill the beans. To this Lex countered with the proposal and side stepped the topic. Lex is in love but he is still MB jr.

[SmallvilleMan]

everything was badly written

[ginnyfan]

Lana has always been a little prejudiced when it came to meteor freaks. Alas.

[SmallvilleMan]

Yeah that's understandable, but saying that isn't? That's just wrong.....It's like calling every muslum a sucide bomber who needs to be locked up.

[boywithbluehanger]

Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
Yeah that's understandable, but saying that isn't? That's just wrong.....It's like calling every muslum a sucide bomber who needs to be locked up.

Not in her case its nothing like that at all. She hates the meteor freaks because she hasnt met or (even heard of!) any good ones!! Clark's BDA-self has no idea, but thats the best angle he has in wining Lana's trust. He is not responsible for the meteor freaks being there but still he does his best to use his gifts to stop them and/or reason with them.

Lana hates the meteor freaks because as far as she knows, they do bad things to people like her with their powers. Oh and lets not forget, the same meteor shower that killed her parents, gave many people extraordinary powers that they abuse. So there is a hint of jealousy there as well...

[SmallvilleMan]

Not in her case its nothing like that at all. She hates the meteor freaks because she hasnt met or (even heard of!) any good ones!! Clark's BDA-self has no idea, but thats the best angle he has in wining Lana's trust. He is not responsible for the meteor freaks being there but still he does his best to use his gifts to stop them and/or reason with them.

Evan was a meteor freak.....We've been through this on this thread. So, you're saying if someone's family member died in 9/11, then they should hate every single muslum?

[Acordyia]

Not telling Lana was a good choice in my book. The choice Clark made in not telling her had an affect on her but then again just about everything Clark did affected her in some way. In reality I think that Lana actually was pushing Clark away or rather was causing Clark to withdraw. If I was in his shoes I would do the same and I Lana would to. It no ones fault really it's just one of those things. Think about it this has happen to everyone at some point in time, your hiding something and someone close to you knows, and they push and push and push until you withdraw away from them and tell them nothing its just something that can not be shared. Lana just wishes for truth any truth sadly and Lex tells her what she wants to hear. Some of it may be true and some of it false and that I that will affect her more just because you know the "Truth" or think you do doesn't mean the world is going to be lollipops and rainbows and hopefully Lana will find that out.

[angelfire east]

okay "good" or not crazy fotw Lana has met and knows:

Herself (Obscura, she got visions that saved Chloe's life), Byron, she seemed very taken and understanding of him at the time, the kid from Visitor, Jondon Corss (who saved her life), and finally the little baby Even who she caimed to love so much.

I wonder if any of them would have went crazy if they got locked up and expaminted(sp) on. Well Byron was cained up for years and which Lana didn't aprove of back at the time.

[xrayvision]

Originally posted by KLGChaos
and 2) her entire outlook is ruled by whatever emotion she is feeling that the time.

Didn't she have a quote in Rush where she said some stuff about "Carpe Diem blah blah blah, live for the moment"?

[myankskent]

Originally posted by angelfire east
okay "good" or not crazy fotw Lana has met and knows:

Herself (Obscura, she got visions that saved Chloe's life), Byron, she seemed very takena nd understanding of him at the time, the kid from Visitor, Jondon Corss (who saved her life), and finally the little baby Even who she caimed to love so much.

I guess the writers forgot about all of those episodes.

[ginnyfan]

Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
Yeah that's understandable, but saying that isn't? That's just wrong.....It's like calling every muslum a sucide bomber who needs to be locked up.

It's not right... but she does have a prejudice. It's like when the Freak was trying to drown her and she didn't think twice about the commando with the gun who plugged him twice in the skull. Yeah the guy was trying to kill you but there is something wrong with a kid running around shooting people in the head!

This is nothing new with Lana.

angelfire east: I thought about the fact that she was once a meteor freak. Guess Lana has conveniently forgotten about that.

[angelfire east]

Originally posted by myankskent
I guess the writers forgot about all of those episodes.

They forget about every episode that comes before:mad::rolleyes:

[SmallvilleMan]

They forget everything......Those fools.

[BadToad]

The only choice better then this one....not telling Lex.

[All about Clark]

From the time Lana went behind Clark's back to work with Lex regarding the ship, I knew she was not good for him. He clearly made the right choice in not telling her the second time around.

[angelfire east]

Originally posted by ginnyfan
It's not right... but she does have a prejudice. It's like when the Freak was trying to drown her and she didn't think twice about the commando with the gun who plugged him twice in the skull. Yeah the guy was trying to kill you but there is something wrong with a kid running around shooting people in the head!

This is nothing new with Lana.

angelfire east: I thought about the fact that she was once a meteor freak. Guess Lana has conveniently forgotten about that.

True, Lana has always been a very judgmental person IMO, She remembers only what works for her at the momnet.

[SmallvilleMan]

Clark didn't make the right choice not telling her. Which is why he's sitting his loft mopping 24/7 instead of being happy.

[SmallvilleMan]

^^^^That's true.....But i think that's people in general though. Chloe has done it with clark.

[xrayvision]

Heck, a meteor freak proposed to her and knocked her up. I guess she's really that messed up.

[Kreukie]

Originally posted by angelfire east
True, Lana has always been a very judgmental person IMO, She remembers only what works for her at the momnet.

That can be said about every character on this series.

[boywithbluehanger]

Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
Evan was a meteor freak.....We've been through this on this thread. So, you're saying if someone's family member died in 9/11, then they should hate every single muslum?

Ok you're clearly misunderstanding my words.

But even so, I don't remember which meteor freak Evan was.

[RedPhoenix23]

Originally posted by WriteAngel1
But in agreement with this thread, its has always been hinted at the lana harbors deep resentment toward mutants. And clark was right to keep his secret from her on his second chance....

Not really. Lana loved Evan. She also liked that Byron guy, and the "I can see how you are going to die guy", and the "heals horses with a single touch guy". Just to name a few.

She's just cautious, and that's reasonable considering how many times Lana and the peeps close to her have been damn near killed by countless FOTWS. I am surprised she can actually leave the house in the mourning with all the times she's been roughed up by one of those freaks! :eek:

In this case, 142 attacked Lex and then attacked Lana - making him a baaaad freak. 142 even admitted that he had a history of mental problems - that Lex was able to exploit later. Whether or not she ultimately believes Lex is one thing. But the fact is, in this case that FOTW was bad news and deserves her resentment.

[SmallvilleMan]

He was their baby, the kid that grew. Remember the track kid too?

[SmallvilleMan]

How about just resentment for bad people? Her grouping them together is wrong, imo. A lot of things are wrong with Lana though, except for her body:D ;)

[xrayvision]

Evan = Baby BOOM!

[boywithbluehanger]

ahhh ok, so she has met some good meteor freaks! hmm then I guess its just bad writing to make her say those things about all of them...:\

[SmallvilleMan]

yessirrr

[angelfire east]

Originally posted by emily feist
I'm so tired of people giving the excuse that because he dumped her she was driven to Lex. She has free will like everyone else. No matter how hurt she was by him she didn't have to choose to be with Lex, she could've chose to go it alone for awhile. Everyone on this show have made bad choices that they had to take responsibility for and she should be no different. In the end she chose to make this bed and she needs to lie in it. She handled the break up in this way, then she gets what she gets. I don't blame Clark. She needs to grow up and deal with stuff in better ways than she has.

WORD. She has a mind of her own, she can and does make her own choices. Lana is and hass been making bad choices. She CHOOSE to go to Lex, she CHOOSE to date him, she CHOOSE what has happened to her. She CHOOSE not to go on the pill and use comdoms and now she parrgent. No one put a gun to her head and made her do these things.

Clark is a jerk; a selfish stupid jerk who messed around with her but at the end of the day Lana choices how she reacts to him and ther others in her life.

[angelfire east]

Originally posted by Kreukie
That can be said about every character on this series.

true but I've always found Lana to be more so then other characters. She a very judgmental person, always has been and from the looks of it always will be.

[smallvillerocks45]

What has me in utter amazement is the fact that Lana told Clark, not so long ago (last season), that she has always felt alone even when she was around others- including Clark. Now suddenly she needs Lex, she would be so lonely without Lex around and she loves him so much...okay, that's nice, but what's the change? From what I've seen, she seems more distanced than ever before. Currently, her social group is made up of Lex and his security team (with mini visits from Chloe and Clark in between, and the occasional meteor freak)... I just don't get it.

[The All]

I think this is a huge roblem with te show and why im so disappointed with this season thus far. we get more lana crap and lex crap than anything. i mean if we were just shown lex without lana it would be fine but its liek they try to find ways to make lana lang relevent to the show and its like they should just not bother anymore.

[xrayvision]

Originally posted by angelfire east
WORD. She has a mind of her own, she can and does make her own choices. Lana is and hass been making bad choices. She CHOOSE to go to Lex, she CHOOSE to date him, she CHOOSE what has happened to her. She CHOOSE not to go on the pill and use comdoms and now she parrgent. No one put a gun to her head and made her do these things.

Clark is a jerk; a selfish stupid jerk who messed around with her but at the end of the day Lana choices how she reacts to him and ther others in her life.

Definitely. Lana made those choices just like those people in tonight's episode of Supernatural did with that demon. It's all her fault if anything bad happens.

[angelfire east]

Mod Note:

I've merged two threads together because I felt the topic are the same. The thread merged with this one is "Clark not telling Lana- Best Choice Ever!"

[j-kent]

when lana said that she understood why if there was a L 33.1, why he locked them up because they were dangerous then she needs to be locked up herself. The meteor freaks wouldn't have been dangerous and vengeful if they were'nt locked up and experimented on by lex in the first place! she knew this fact already; told by mr. static shock! what a dumb***! I just wanna fire her character already lol

[fresh prince]

I hate clark for wanting to bring her back he should of let her die in reckoning

[RedPhoenix23]

Originally posted by j-kent
when lana said that she understood why if there was a L 33.1, why he locked them up because they were dangerous then she needs to be locked up herself. The meteor freaks wouldn't have been dangerous and vengeful if they were'nt locked up and experimented on by lex in the first place! she knew this fact already; told by mr. static shock! what a dumb***! I just wanna fire her character already lol

Apparently you have missed all the pre-33.1 freaks that have terrorized Smallville.:lol: 9 times out 10, as soon as someone became infected with the meteors they immediately ran out and started killing people.

[fresh prince]

I just hope this is not a sign that there bringing back the fotw along with the zoners

[smallvillerocks45]

Towards the end of the episode, Chloe says that Lana can't prove there was never a level 33.1. Lana responds by saying that Chloe can't prove that it did exist...but in reality, can't she? I mean, I saw those Acuvue webisodes last season, and there was a whole plot line about 33.1 and how "The Angel of Vengence" wanted Chloe to write a story about it...so what happened? Did she suddenly forget that she has this information? If she does have it, I think Lana should see it.

[RedPhoenix23]

Originally posted by smallvillerocks45
Towards the end of the episode, Chloe says that Lana can't prove there was never a level 33.1. Lana responds by saying that Chloe can't prove that it did exist...but in reality, can't she? I mean, I saw those Acuvue webisodes last season, and there was a whole plot line about 33.1 and how "The Angel of Vengence" wanted Chloe to write a story about it...so what happened? Did she suddenly forget that she has this information? If she does have it, I think Lana should see it.

AOV got played by Molly Griggs and her boytoy. Molly just wanted AOV to break them in so that she could load her modified "delete" virus onto Lex's laptop to make him kill himself with the nearby samuri sword. AOV got pissed and set the alarms off and skitdaddled outta there leaving Molly to get caught.

Because of this, AOV didn't get the info needed to expose 33.1. So Chloe still has no proof of it's existance.

[jmf1977]

I think Lana is playing with Lex to get him to open up to her about the program. As I've said before, I think the Lana character and her storyline with Lex has so many interesting possiblities if only the writers would drop the soap opera and pregnant crap! How can people say that Lana is stupid? After all she has been through and all that the writers do not allow her to know what is she supposed to do?

[myankskent]

Originally posted by smallvillerocks45
Towards the end of the episode, Chloe says that Lana can't prove there was never a level 33.1. Lana responds by saying that Chloe can't prove that it did exist...but in reality, can't she? I mean, I saw those Acuvue webisodes last season, and there was a whole plot line about 33.1 and how "The Angel of Vengence" wanted Chloe to write a story about it...so what happened? Did she suddenly forget that she has this information? If she does have it, I think Lana should see it.

And that's one reason why these VC should not be considered canon. When TPTB can't even keep things that they put into the show consistent, there's no way that I am going to watch these VC and say that they are canon.

[boywithbluehanger]

Originally posted by myankskent
And that's one reason why these VC should not be considered canon. When TPTB can't even keep things that they put into the show consistent, there's no way that I am going to watch these VC and say that they are canon.

well it probably is considered canon by AlMiles. Chloe has a good reason not to tell Lana about Level 33.1. Many of the FoTWs had seen some of Clark's abilities. If she allowed Lana to investigate into Level 33.1 she might have ended up exposing Clark's secret by finding it.

Remember that episode last season when the FoTWs that escaped from Belle Reeve though that Clark had special abilities and Lana wondered why they would think that. And the episode a few years back when she guessed that Clark might have been a FoTW and she told him that she wouldn't be upset if he was. And of course when he came back from the dead last season she knew something was strange about that.

[myankskent]

Originally posted by boywithbluehanger
well it probably is considered canon by AlMiles. Chloe has a good reason not to tell Lana about Level 33.1. Many of the FoTWs had seen some of Clark's abilities. If she allowed Lana to investigate into Level 33.1 she might have ended up exposing Clark's secret by finding it.

Remember that episode last season when the FoTWs that escaped from Belle Reeve though that Clark had special abilities and Lana wondered why they would think that. And the episode a few years back when she guessed that Clark might have been a FoTW and she told him that she wouldn't be upset if he was. And of course when he came back from the dead last season she knew something was strange about that.

My whole thing is, though, with all of the research that Chloe has done on meteor freaks and Luthorcorp, Chloe doesn't have one thing to show Lana that wouldn't give away Clark's secret? I really don't care anymore if Lana finds out the secret, but if they're now going to make this an issue of Chloe not having any proof whatsoever on Lex, then that is very hard to believe. I don't expect her to have proof that will get Lex put in jail, but she must have something on the guy after spending 5 years plus investigating him and LuthorCorp.

[chlo-el]

I hate how Lex and everyone try to make Lana all sweet and innocent. When she is showing her evilness so well. I don't get why Lex lies to her about 33.1 when she practically said give me the key I want to experment too. I knew she would go in this direction and when she was in the elevator with that meteor freak. I'm like she's going to push him in there and make sure he gets expermented on.
I hate how they make her looks so neive saying that Lex is the only one that's honest with her. To me it looks like she knows that he's lying and she really doesn't mind. But hse's hiding because she can't get away from talking about honesty because she's just so used to whinning about it.

[boywithbluehanger]

My whole thing is, though, with all of the research that Chloe has done on meteor freaks and Luthorcorp, Chloe doesn't have one thing to show Lana that wouldn't give away Clark's secret? I really don't care anymore if Lana finds out the secret, but if they're now going to make this an issue of Chloe not having any proof whatsoever on Lex, then that is very hard to believe. I don't expect her to have proof that will get Lex put in jail, but she must have something on the guy after spending 5 years plus investigating him and LuthorCorp.

And you're probably right I'm sure she does have tons of things bad about Lex but think about how Lana said last week she didnt want to know anything bad about Lex and how this week shes asking if Chloe knows anything about a Level 33.1.

Chloe may have withheld that information for three reasons. One, Lana would more than likely runoff and eventually tell Lex she knows he was lying, blaming it on Chloe. Two, Lana finding about the many meteor freaks that seem to have Clark stopping them in common :lol:
And three, AlMiles forgot about all of that so Chloe seeming as if she didn't know anything is just lack of continuity or creative juices

[ginnyfan]

Even really nice-seeming people can be so predjudiced that they would lock other human beings up out of fear.
The Chlionel scene makes me think that the writers remembered 33.1 and the Chloe Chronicles. When she said, "meteor freak central" I felt nostalgic. It was a glimpse of Old-school Chloe. :D

She'd be one of the people who voted for tagging the mutants in the X-files. It doesn't help that she's been attacked by so many of them. Maybe Alicia had a point. If people knew that someone good (Clark) was a meteor freak (so she thought) it would help their cause.

It's really sad.

I really thought Lana was growing up this season but it turns out she's being driven once again by fear. I think all of her "love" of Lex is the fear of being alone. I mean a drowning person loves a a floating object... but that's not the way you're supposed to love your husband.

[Kryptonian-Ronin]

Lana is becoming painful to watch.

[LuckyKrypto]

Originally posted by Kryptonian-Ronin
Lana is becoming painful to watch.

No kidding.:rolleyes:
Last night was just awful in my opinion.

[smallvillerocks45]

Originally posted by RedPhoenix23
AOV got played by Molly Griggs and her boytoy. Molly just wanted AOV to break them in so that she could load her modified "delete" virus onto Lex's laptop to make him kill himself with the nearby samuri sword. AOV got pissed and set the alarms off and skitdaddled outta there leaving Molly to get caught.

Because of this, AOV didn't get the info needed to expose 33.1. So Chloe still has no proof of it's existance.

Even if Chloe didn't have documented proof - which I know is the ultimate kind of proof - she still could have told Lana that she has seen the evidence, but was unable to get her hands on it. Yet, from the way this episode ended, you would've thought it was the first time Chloe had ever heard of 33.1.

[chlarkfan333]

We're still blaming Chloe for Lana's obstinence?:rolleyes:

C'mon, that's twice now in the space of 2 consecutive episodes, Chloe has tried to enlighten Lana about Lex's evil doings and twice now, Lana has refused to listen to her...and still somehow it falls upon Chloe to make more of an effort?

[smallvillerocks45]

Of course not, at least that's not what I think. My post is addressing one I previously made... Lana basically throws away Chloe's comments about the possibility of 33.1 actually existing, by saying that she doesn't have any proof that it existed...when seemingly according to the Acuvue webisodes, she does. That's what I'm talking about.

As for Lana being a gullible dumbo, well, that's all on her. I mean, how could she not even be the slightest bit suspicious of a level called 33.1 - the level itself does exist - she should be asking why. No, instead she takes Lex's word as the final say in everything...

[chlarkfan333]

Originally posted by smallvillerocks45
Of course not, at least that's not what I think. My post is addressing one I previously made... Lana basically throws away Chloe's comments about the possibility of 33.1 actually existing, by saying that she doesn't have any proof that it existed...when seemingly according to the Acuvue webisodes, she does. That's what I'm talking about.

As for Lana being a gullible dumbo, well, that's all on her. I mean, how could she not even be the slightest bit suspicious of a level called 33.1 - the level itself does exist - she should be asking why. No, instead she takes Lex's word as the final say in everything...

:D Sorry, if I misrepresented what you wrote. Looks like we are in agreement then.

[smallvillerocks45]

No problem...because there are so many messages it's very easy to miss specific posts, I think I've even done that before. Glad to see I'm not the only who feels Lana needs to wake up from LaLa Land. :)

[myankskent]

Originally posted by smallvillerocks45
Of course not, at least that's not what I think. My post is addressing one I previously made... Lana basically throws away Chloe's comments about the possibility of 33.1 actually existing, by saying that she doesn't have any proof that it existed...when seemingly according to the Acuvue webisodes, she does. That's what I'm talking about.

As for Lana being a gullible dumbo, well, that's all on her. I mean, how could she not even be the slightest bit suspicious of a level called 33.1 - the level itself does exist - she should be asking why. No, instead she takes Lex's word as the final say in everything...

Does that even matter? After the way that Lana was written this episode, she would freakin' approve of level 33.1 and the torturing of meteor freaks. That's what I don't understand about her character. One week she says one thing, then she says something else, and now we are being led to believe that she is Lex's equal. TPTB are really screwing up here, and it all started after Reckoning.

[smallvillerocks45]

That's true. Lana's motives are as ambiguous as Lionel's...except the great MB makes it look interesting or, let's put it this way, his storyline is much more compelling because we don't see his face as often.

[myankskent]

Originally posted by smallvillerocks45
That's true. Lana's motives are as ambiguous as Lionel's...except the great MB makes it look interesting or, let's put it this way, his storyline is much more compelling because we don't see his face as often.

You just brought up an excellent point, IMO. It seems like TPTB are trying to write Lana's character in a way so none of the viewers know what she is really thinking/doing. This is comparable to Lionel, but the reason why Lionel is effective right now is because TPTB have given us enough information about Lionel to keep us guessing, and from there, TPTB build up Lionels' character consistently. With Lana, it's like she does all of these outrageous things but there is no buildup and no consistency. What you watch in one episode ends up having no bearing on the next one. That's the problem.

[Nightingale20]

Originally posted by ginnyfan

I really thought Lana was growing up this season but it turns out she's being driven once again by fear. I think all of her "love" of Lex is the fear of being alone. I mean a drowning person loves a a floating object... but that's not the way you're supposed to love your husband.

Seems to once again go back to abandonment issues.

[thelostgirl101]

It's not that lana is dumb or doesn't get it, its that she is in love. Love is blind.

[ginnyfan]

^That's true. :)

[All about Clark]

Maybe Lana is just in love with the idea of being in love.

Anyways, I will never buy that she loves Lex, never. It's all about abandonment issues.

[myankskent]

Originally posted by All about Clark
Maybe Lana is just in love with the idea of being in love.

Anyways, I will never buy that she loves Lex, never. It's all about abandonment issues.

She just told him that she loved him this episode so it's pretty clear that she loves him. Of course, during the next episode she might start getting on him about his obssession with 33.1 after she agreed with the whole idea of it this episode. Who knows.

[lastdaughterofkrypton]

Originally posted by ginnyfan
I really thought Lana was growing up this season but it turns out she's being driven once again by fear. I think all of her "love" of Lex is the fear of being alone. I mean a drowning person loves a a floating object... but that's not the way you're supposed to love your husband.

Actually about this I think she said something that gave her away:
I don't want to have this baby without you?
WTF I mean is a terrible thing to say and it made her look like she can't do anything on her own I mean my man is everything and is more important than my child :eek:

Lana is as dumb as a box of rocks...without the rocks! :D

[ginnyfan]

^That is a scary thing... being a single mom. But... Fear driving you into marriage. Bad. Very bad.

[paolinki25]

I agree. Being a single mom can be scary, especially since she's still young and everything, but I think she does love Lex, so she'll most likely say yes to the proposal.

[lastdaughterofkrypton]

Originally posted by paolinki25
I agree. Being a single mom can be scary, especially since she's still young and everything, but I think she does love Lex, so she'll most likely say yes to the proposal.

I do beleive she will say yes but I'm fearing a MJ homage and her quiting at the last minute leaving Lex at the altar and running back to Clark :mad:
I just hope that the BDA tells her that he can only see her as a sister now...That will be a good payoff to the Clana torture we had to endure for all this years :D

[JonStewart4President]

Originally posted by lastdaughterofkrypton
Actually about this I think she said something that gave her away:
I don't want to have this baby without you?
WTF I mean is a terrible thing to say and it made her look like she can't do anything on her own I mean my man is everything and is more important than my child :eek:

Lana is as dumb as a box of rocks...without the rocks! :D

I didn't think that it meant that she couldn't be a single mother, or that she can't do anything on her own, just that she didn't want to. She wants to share her child's life with it's father and for them to be parents together. And that's not an unusual or indeed weak, statement to make. Even if it's not financially more difficult, it's more tiring and emotionally draining raising a child on your own. And unless the other parent completely sucks as a parent, than you should want to give them the chance to be involved with their child, even if you aren't together as a couple. All of that just strikes me as common sense.

And I say this as someone who was raised by a single mother, who was pretty darn good at it, and whose bio father and later stepfather, were not the types who wanted to be good fathers. So for me, I would rather have a good mother who loved me and chose (or didn't as the case may be) to be a single mother and not have to deal with father types that weren't worth it. But of course it would have been nice to know and be raised by two loving people as one's parent. Of course it is! Who doesn't want more love? I saw that was what Lana saying she wanted. She doesn't want to do it on her own...she wanted to raise that child with it's father if she has a choice and she wanted to be given that choice...as she eventually was.

Lana was also upset about the possibility that the father of the child was never going to even have the chance to know his child, to even really know if was a father. Because she hadn't told him, because she was worried about his reaction, among other things. Which is understandable given it was an uplanned pregnancy for them both.

[lastdaughterofkrypton]

I'm not against singel motherhood alone but the choice of words make me feel like she cared more about Lex than the baby wich is not a good thing to do if you really want to keep the baby it must be because you love him/her not because the father might be there for you or not, IMO.

[paolinki25]

Originally posted by lastdaughterofkrypton
I do beleive she will say yes but I'm fearing a MJ homage and her quiting at the last minute leaving Lex at the altar and running back to Clark :mad:
I just hope that the BDA tells her that he can only see her as a sister now...That will be a good payoff to the Clana torture we had to endure for all this years :D

Like I've said before, if Clark dares to take her back and get romantically involved with her again, I'll like to have the ability to get inside the TV and kick his male parts.

[last man of krypton]

Oy vey. 123 posts on Lana's hypocrisy/lack of. Can't be bothered to quote what some have said, so I'll just state my points:

When Lana advocated experimentation on humans, I had two thoughts: 1) "So you'd be okay being strapped to a bed with wires coming out of you because you could see through someone elses eyes a few years ago?" 2) "Just TWO episodes ago you berated Lex because he was taking measures to protect you and humanity from abnormal threats. Now you're siding with him again?"

I agree with the people who have mentioned about meteor freaks that have had a positive influence in her life i.e Baby Evan, Jordan the Clairvoyant, Cyrus the Healer, Byron the Jekyll and Hyde Poet. So would she be happy to see them locked up and experimented on? Or is it only the mentally unstable?

[ginnyfan]

^Yeah Lana needs her butt kicked for saying 33.1 is OK. I think it's the fear talking... actually I honestly don't know anymore. Maybe I should just disconnect completely and accept her for the plot device that she is.

[Paul Satanic]

Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
Man, that isn't even the point any more. The point is destroying Lana's character into a billion pieces then crapping on it 2 billion times.


I don't think they're destroying her. I think they're revealing the REAL Lana. A horrible girl with ambitions to dominate.

[paolinki25]

Originally posted by Paul Satanic
I don't think they're destroying her. I think they're revealing the REAL Lana. A horrible girl with ambitions to dominate.

This I agree with. I don't see it much as destroying her character as to showing the real nature of Lana Lang, which to tell you the truth, it's way more entertaining.

[kismet]

^don't you mean the real nature of smallvile universe Lana Lang?

Because Mythos lana IS NOT like this at all...

[ginnyfan]

^Hmm... This makes me curious about Lana in the comic books. :)

I liked the little of her I saw on Superman the Animated Series. She was a redheaded Chloe/Lana combo. She was a fashion designer and she dated Lex.

[Kryptonian-Ronin]

And what the heck is wrong with Kristen ?
Is she sick or something? I have never seen her so thing, I mean her legs look like toothpicks !

[Paint the K]

I wish Lana had died in the meteor shower with her parents.

[Luthorism]

Originally posted by KLGChaos
Yeah, as my roommate said-- Lana is 1) stupid and 2) her entire outlook is ruled by whatever emotion she is feeling that the time.

Personally, if Clark told her in the first place, I don't think she'd be the person she is now. Clark's own stupidity pushed her towards Lex (who is COMPLETELY out of character lately) and I honestly am beginning to think Lana is become MORE evil than Lex is supposed to be.

Who knows, maybe they'll do an alternate reality comic book where Lana kills off Lex, takes over as head of Lexcorp (and renames it Lanacorp) and becomes Supes main villain. :D
lmao.. that would have been a hell of a show!! :lol: :lol:

[smallvillefreak24]

was she just trying to get him to confess or is she really that twisted?

[Dannyblue1]

Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
Man, that isn't even the point any more. The point is destroying Lana's character into a billion pieces then crapping on it 2 billion times.

As I wrote in another thread earlier today...

I often come across posts about how much Lana has changed, and how the writers are ruining her character by making her do all of these out-of-character things. But, truth is, Lana has always been this way. Always. Nothing she's done in season 6 has struck me as out of character because, based on 5 seasons of viewing experience, everything she's doing is dead-on in character for her. Including the way she's handling her relationship with Lex.

So this "new Lana" some are complaining about isn't actually new. It's just that some are now seeing what others have been seeing all along.

[myankskent]

Originally posted by Dannyblue1
As I wrote in another thread earlier today...

I often come across posts about how much Lana has changed, and how the writers are ruining her character by making her do all of these out-of-character things. But, truth is, Lana has always been this way. Always. Nothing she's done in season 6 has struck me as out of character because, based on 5 seasons of viewing experience, everything she's doing is dead-on in character for her. Including the way she's handling her relationship with Lex.

So this "new Lana" some are complaining about isn't actually new. It's just that some are now seeing what others have been seeing all along.

How can you even come to a conclusion of what Lana is as a character anymore? She's inconsistent and poorly written and that is what people are complaining about. For five plus years, she was in love with Clark and pushed him for the truth because she knew that he loved her back, not to mention the times when he actually approached her and told her that he wanted to tell her the truth, aka end of season 3 when they weren't even together. She was a more consistent character back then, whether you liked her or not. Now, the writers make her a different character every single episode that you watch. One minute she has doubts about Lex, the next she doesn't. One minute she loves the black box and wants to hold onto it for protection, the next she accuses Lex of being obssessed. In this episode she approves of level 33.1 and what will happen later on? My guess is that she will say something totally different. That's what people mean by destroying her character.

[MasterJonSt]

Its definantly bad writing, the last few eipsodes hav highlighted that. From going on about how she regretts everything with Lex, to how much she loves him - total BS

[myankskent]

Originally posted by MasterJonSt
Its definantly bad writing, the last few eipsodes hav highlighted that. From going on about how she regretts everything with Lex, to how much she loves him - total BS

Yeah, I know. Say what you want about Lana's character and whether or not you've always hated her or not, but you're not going to convince me that Lana's character is just as inconsistent now as she was in the other seasons. This is just a total collapse of a character.

[derickla]

Originally posted by KLGChaos

Who knows, maybe they'll do an alternate reality comic book where Lana kills off Lex, takes over as head of Lexcorp (and renames it Lanacorp) and becomes Supes main villain. :D

That was funny!! :rotfl:

I think I am one of the only people that disliked lana as miss goody-goody, but really like her as evil lana.

[paolinki25]

To me she's been incosistent all seasons, but became more evident in season 4. The Jason relationship was a big WTF for me. I thought they were finally giving her some direction this year, which is probably why the Lexana appealed to me in the first place. Who knows? We'll have to wait and see.

[boogiebear]

I have watched Smallville from the beginning. I am an old time Superman fan. I have been reading the comics for at least 35 years(I was 7 for the nosy people). I did like when they finally let Lois and Clark have a real relationship that worked. (In books, not the show)
I liked Lana from the first show. I was hardwired to like her. In the last two season, I can't stand to see her. She really lost me at the end of last season, when she met Lex on the roof of that building instead of being concerned about her family(Chloe, etc). The writers have turned Lana into something I never would have imagined. I am wondering if this is being done on purpose so they can kill her off, and make Lex evil. Maybe instead of killing her off, they just kill off what makes her Lana(brain tumor, insane, chemical imbalance) something that makes her worse than just dead. I never thought I would say this, she has such a selective memory, and made such choices, I don't think I would be upset when they do away with her.

I wish they would have left it as it was in most of the books. They pull away from each other, but always remain friends, bumping into each other occasionally.

[Dannyblue1]

Originally posted by myankskent
How can you even come to a conclusion of what Lana is as a character anymore? She's inconsistent and poorly written and that is what people are complaining about.

First of all, Lana being written inconsistently is hardly something new to this season. Some have often complained about Lana being written to suit the weather, or the whims of the writers, for years. In fact, Lana changed so much, often on a dime and with little development, it was hard to get a handle on the character enough for some to really identify with her.

The thing about her current inconsistencies is that they are actually consistent. Viewers might be getting whiplash from the way she’s seems to change her mind from week-to-week, but none of this is new or out of character for Lana.

One minute, she’s acting like Clark is her hero who she would trust with her life. The next, she’s ignoring Clark’s warnings that she’s in danger. Even accusing him of meddling in her life or being jealous.

One minute, she’s okay with a sniper going around gunning down FOTWs, innocent or not. The next, she’s acting like the latest FOTW is her best friend.

One minute, she’s telling Clark she can deal with him having secrets and wants to date him anyway. The next, she’s badgering him to tell her the truth if he wants to be with her.

Nothing about this “new Lana” is new. Not the way she’s behaving, and not the way she’s being written.

As for liking or disliking Lana, I’ve never felt strongly about Lana one way or the other. Sometimes, I’ve liked her. (Like early in the first season, when I actually looked forward to seeing how she would develop.) Sometimes not.

Mostly, Lana bores me. I can’t remember the last time I was genuinely interested in the character, or a storyline built around the character. And, since I don’t watch SV to be bored, I don’t enjoy it when a large chunk of the show is devoted to a character I can’t get interested in, or a storyline that puts me to sleep.