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jimmyolsenblues
11-16-2006, 06:10 PM
Clark is finally making the right decisions.
There is a whole world of people out there that need him not just lana.

Damali
11-16-2006, 06:15 PM
Bad for Clark. :(

Clark might not don the cape yet, but turning his back on someone is just...well wrong.

Dark_Superman
11-16-2006, 06:18 PM
lex luthor or thousands of ppl who could die at any moment... sounds like an obvious choice to me

MidgardDragon
11-16-2006, 06:20 PM
I think it was both bad and good. Bad that Clark turned his back on anyone, but good that he's now seeing the bigger picture.

Damali
11-16-2006, 06:21 PM
Originally posted by Dark_Superman
lex luthor or thousands of ppl who could die at any moment... sounds like an obvious choice to me

Clark needing to save people in Seattle isn't the problem. It's how he respond to Chloe over Lex needing help. It was rather dismissve and it makes him look a little petty too. Clark did the same thing in Sneeze, and I didn't like it there, either. It's not very Superman, IMO.

jimmyolsenblues
11-16-2006, 06:23 PM
Part of the superman mythology is that he really cannot be in 2 distant distinct locations at the same time.
He must make terrible aweful choices sometimes about who to save who not to save. I am very happy he chose anyone other then lexana to help.

k18
11-16-2006, 06:31 PM
I'm happy he chose the people of Seattle too. It's really a no brainer when it comes to who he should help.

wolverine316
11-16-2006, 07:52 PM
I am glad he chose the people in Seattle they needed him more. Lex is missing what once a week? @#% Lex

Krypto/DQ/
11-16-2006, 07:56 PM
Originally posted by jimmyolsenblues
Clark is finally making the right decisions.
There is a whole world of people out there that need him not just lana.

And plus they showed very clearly that Chloe notice it. Chloe realized that maybe Clark had moved on. :)

Coyote
11-16-2006, 07:56 PM
He chose to save the people in Seattle because Seattle looks a lot like Vancouver, where his show films, which saves on the location budget.

biaaly
11-16-2006, 08:08 PM
^^^^ LOL Coyote, well I guess thats a logical response :)

HowardFilms
11-16-2006, 08:11 PM
I was SO proud of Clark when he did that. That and MM made tonights ep, everything else was kinda blah

God-Man
11-16-2006, 08:21 PM
Originally posted by Damali
Bad for Clark. :(

Clark might not don the cape yet, but turning his back on someone is just...well wrong.

Yup. I would have at least liked to see Clark talk to Lana about it and investigate the mansion.

SmallvilleMan
11-16-2006, 08:24 PM
Talk to Lana? Why would he want to do that? I didn't get the impression Clark felt like being insulted and having things thrown in his face.

D.M.A.
11-16-2006, 08:28 PM
Originally posted by MidgardDragon
I think it was both bad and good. Bad that Clark turned his back on anyone, but good that he's now seeing the bigger picture.
I agree,but I did like that he wanted to go stop the zoner instead.I jus knew he would wanna stay when he asked what was wrong,and chloe would have to make him go.But instead she tried to make him stay,so tho his decision was good/bad I still think he made the right decision.He has to realize that u can't save em all and remember this was a zoner more powerful than him,that he couldn't stop wit the crystal.So goin after batista was more important that sum fotw,I think it was a good call on clark side personally.I'm more suprise that it was chloe tryin to get him to stay and help instead of pushin him to go,so havin clark step up was good imo.But I can see why it may come off as bad to sum,but can u blame him for wanted to stop the killings of many others.He's learnin tho


Originally posted by Coyote
He chose to save the people in Seattle because Seattle looks a lot like Vancouver, where his show films, which saves on the location budget.
:lol: well that's 1 way of puttin it


Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
Talk to Lana? Why would he want to do that? I didn't get the impression Clark felt like being insulted and having things thrown in his face.
Well that may be,everytime he's tried to help lex lately she has complained that he wasn't there for lex.So not helpin for those reasons may have played a role in his decision,but I'm jus glad he didn't jump at the chance to go help lana.That showed he was atleast tryin to move on,and makin the right decisions

wraith808
11-16-2006, 09:10 PM
Yeah... I liked the fact that he chose the greater good... but his attitude about it seemed pretty bad...

ClarkSupportsOrganic
11-17-2006, 07:01 PM
Lex always gets into trouble because of the unethical or greedy things he does. The people in Seattle were innocent victims. I think Clark made the right choice

nabadua
11-17-2006, 07:44 PM
The needs of the many, outweigh the needs of the few.

BadToad
11-17-2006, 07:52 PM
Not only good for Clark, but Bravo! I'd like Clark to save everyone all the time too, but if there's one person he should NOT be putting above innocents it is Lex -"I'm freaking 12 years old and want to throw Lana in your face"- Luthor. If Clark plans his rescues around Lex's weekly shootings/stabbings/kidnappings, he's not going to have a lot of time to be Superman some day, is he?

He's the guy that made sure Lex got to the hospital in "Zod" (who else would have dropped Lex off there?), he's the guy that blew out a fire and saved Lex and Lana in "Sneeze". He's the guy that injected Lex with the "Rage" drug, and brought him back from the dead in "Rage". His interaction probably saved Lex from Duncan in "Reunion", since I imagine Lex would've been next after Ollie was skewered.

Really, if he takes a few weeks off from saving snotty butt Lex, I'm all for it. Yes, Superman tries to save everyone, but even he knows he can't, and he has to go where the need is greater.

IMO

that girl
11-17-2006, 09:13 PM
^^ Well put I couldn't have said it better.

ShelbyKent
11-17-2006, 10:39 PM
I think Clark just got tired of being rebuffed everytime he tried to offer his help to Lex and Lana, which was what happened in the past several episodes.

So in this eppie, Clark probably thought. "Screw it! I'm going to Seattle! Both of them usually turn out OK in the end anyway."

angelfire east
11-17-2006, 11:37 PM
That not superman. He didn't even consister lex and won't have gave him anotehr thought if Chloe hadn't been all "WTH Clark?!!" :mad:

ShelbyKent
11-17-2006, 11:49 PM
Originally posted by angelfire east
That not superman. He didn't even consister lex and won't have gave him anotehr thought if Chloe hadn't been all "WTH Clark?!!" :mad:

Well Clark isn't Superman yet at this point in the story..........:\

mobiusklein
11-18-2006, 12:19 AM
Well, he doesn't have much time. Maybe he should aim lower then.

BadToad
11-18-2006, 07:51 AM
That not superman. He didn't even consister lex and won't have gave him anotehr thought if Chloe hadn't been all "WTH Clark?!!"

So, he should say "Screw all those people in Seattle, Lex is missing....again??!!" And that would be Superman to you? No, what would happen would be that a lot of viewers would be jumping on his case, claiming that he only cares about helping people close to him, and he wanted to hold Lana's hand, etc.

So really, with some people, Clark can't win anyway. So, why act is if either choice he made would've pleased you? IMO

I know for me, his choice was AWESOME, and very Superman-ly. Think of the greater good, think of the innocent people that need help, go to where you can be of the greater need. That all shouts Superman-to-be to me.

And if Clark had stayed behind, what could he have done? More people probably would've died in Seatlle, and Jimmy deux ex machina would've saved the day anyway. :confused:

Farm_Girl
11-18-2006, 09:04 AM
Clark is tired of saving Lex on weekly basis and wanted to do something new.:o

Okay.. seriously, he made the right decision.

Reminded me of the Batman Begins scene when Bruce says: "I won't kill you, but I don't have to save you either"

I mean, Lex is all things evil, Clark won't ever hurt him, but saving him always is also not an obligation on his part. He is moving towards his Superman personna of saving people in need.

Just like Ollie said in Arrow, there are a lot of people other than the ones around you who need your help and they won't come to you, you will have to find them!

It was a great choice he made.

eas
11-18-2006, 02:14 PM
I thought it made perfect sense for him to choose to go after the Zone escapee rather than stick around to solve the Lex Luthor kidnapping case.

It seemed like a no-brainer to me. The fact is that Clark cannot (even with all of his powers) be in two places at once. Once he is Superman, he'll have to face these decisions on a day-to-day basis. "Do I save the people drowning in Indonesia or help the people in the burning building in New York?" or "Do I save Lois from the dastardly deeds of Lex Luthor or do I save the people from the earthquake in Pakistan?" As the Five for Fighting song says, "It's not easy to be me...."

Superman hears people in need all the time and he's not God. He cannot change their fate with the flick of one hand. So he makes a choice. And it's never an easy choice, but one he has to make - in a split second. I thought that this scene he had with Chloe captured Clark in a perfect moment -- a moment where I saw Superman. The lives of many outweigh the life of one man. In a hearbeat. And, in the moment of crisis, Superman never thinks twice about that. He'll think about it later (with sorrow) but, within that second, he can't afford to second-guess himself.

I was incredibly proud of Clark in this episode. From the the first scene to last - I loved how he dealt with everything and his innner turmoil at what he saw in Seattle. I loved seeing his reaction to the Oreos and MM. It made perfect sense that he was in awe of MM and that he was sitting in his loft wondering what the hell had just happened in Seattle. The events there were so far out of his comfort zone, and he was sitting there processing it all. It it was a huge step Clark took this episode in venturing out into the real world. I hope he continues down this path.

last man of krypton
11-18-2006, 02:25 PM
Ditto.

It was a hard choice, but Clark made the right one. Lex was missing, so therefore could be okay. People had died, and the body count was still rising. Besides, Smallville is safe with Chloe the Knowy on the case.

Charissa70
11-18-2006, 07:00 PM
I don't think it was a hard choice. Clark feels responsible for what escaped from the phantom zone and what they are doing. Lex is always getting in trouble and has a large team of security people. When Lex was missing a few episodes ago, and Clark showed up at the mansion, Lana basically trashed him. Why continue to go through that? He was told he was no longer welcome at the mansion and he had nothing to do with Lex disappearing

Khyla
11-18-2006, 11:22 PM
with everyone totally dissing Clark in "Rage"(telling him to basically "Get the heck out") This also makes his reaction in "Static" expected.(Chloe's reation, unexpected, OOC :( )

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But after he started to leave, he turned with such a look of concern on his face when he heard Chloe say Lana's name into her cellphone, I think that implied that if it was Lana and not Lex who was in trouble, he may have stayed, so we still can't be sure that he was being noble.
(I personally think he's gonna have to "do it" with someone else before he finally gets over his Lana infatuation. :p)

Farm_Girl
11-18-2006, 11:31 PM
very well put eas.

I think that when Superman will be making these decisions on daily basis, even then, he won't choose one life of a man who is known for his evil deeds over thousands of innocent lives.

However, in any other situation, I am sure he would've saved Lex no matter how much severe their differences are.

So I guess Clark's choice was very Superman-ly..

I_am_LEX
11-19-2006, 01:24 AM
To me, the choice he made showed some actual maturity and character development. Clark, thanks to Raya and GA, is finally starting to get that his responibility is to the world, not just smallville or lana. He as always saved people just because he could and because it was the right thing to do. In this instance, Clark understood what was really important and thats making sure the the PZ criminals are stopped. I'm sure if he could have he would have chosen to try to help, but he's gotten tot he point where he gets that you can't save everybody, and when it's between one or thousands... the majority wins everytime. Also, he knows this is part of his destiny, to save earth, Raya told him so... thats why he's not as afraid to accept what has to be done, even if it means not being able to help someone in need. The world needs him, not just lana or lex or smallville. i already said that, but its worth stating again because I think Clark made a big leap here towards his destiny.