View Full Version : "six weeks ago" means dark thursday?
six weeks ago bow wow is found playing ball with his friend, the same day all the phantoms are released, same day the earth is being almsot destroyed all over, so how come they were safe and nothing was effecting there area?
jonpetersbites
11-03-2006, 04:16 AM
I think the earthquake and the immediate aftereffects of it had already passed by the time Clark and the phantom zone criminals got back. It's interesting though that we're six episodes into the season and they still haven't made reference to the show jumping ahead by a few months, which usually happens so that, for example, an episode in March will more or less take place in March. This happened last year with "Aqua" when it's stated that everyone is at the lake for a back-to-school shindig, and it happened in the second episode of season 2 with "Heat" when the characters got back to school.
Season 1 began with the first days of the school year and seasons 3 and 4 began with referencing a 3-month hiatus (where Clark was in metropolis and then the cave wall)
Maybe now that the Fortress is back on line they can do this.
cant be, when clark arrived, the earthquake had just occured, remember how he saves martha and lionel? point is, this is a big blunder if u ask me in a great episode overall. Or im just assuming that i guess some parts of cali. werent hit? :S
dave73085
11-03-2006, 11:49 PM
Originally posted by s_q
Or im just assuming that i guess some parts of cali. werent hit? :S [/B]
Second on Clark saving Martha & Lionel from the falling barn, as well as the mansion shaking before Clark zaps the hard drive.
Ha yeah, California is much less likely to be affected by earthquakes than Kansas, after all. :P
RedPhoenix23
11-04-2006, 12:30 AM
This was supposedly a word wide event. It makes no sense that Bow Wow's little section of California wouldn't be effected at all. Earth's technology and power was disabled by Brianiac that caused massive riots wherever the crippling of technology/power accurded. And acording to the end of Vessel, when Clark was in the phantom prison - that was in fact a world wide event. Earth went dim.
something to think about aint it?
drwood
11-04-2006, 08:28 AM
Not everyone who escaped the PZ did so on Dark Thursday...power was restored within a week, so Baerne's escape could have been 1-2 weeks after Dark Thursday, which would explain why everything seemed normal when Bow Wow was playing ball in Oakland.
We don't know how long after Dark Thursday PZ criminals escaped, but it is likely that those in closest proximity to Clark escaped first (i.e. the forest ranger in "Wither") and those further away escaped later.
Mornaur
11-04-2006, 08:38 AM
Originally posted by drwood
Not everyone who escaped the PZ did so on Dark Thursday...power was restored within a week, so Baerne's escape could have been 1-2 weeks after Dark Thursday, which would explain why everything seemed normal when Bow Wow was playing ball in Oakland.
We don't know how long after Dark Thursday PZ criminals escaped, but it is likely that those in closest proximity to Clark escaped first (i.e. the forest ranger in "Wither") and those further away escaped later.
Didn't they escape when Clark opened the door? I believe those who were sucked out were in close proximity to the gate when it opened, and they escaped the same day.
Isn't that why there were six holes in the ground and that it was remarkable that Oliver had the only working satellites on Dark Thursday? Would seem to suggest they all escaped at the same time on that day.
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firefly01
11-04-2006, 09:48 AM
Yeah, all of the criminals escaped at the same time. At the beginning of the ep, we get that graphic that says, six weeks earlier.. Oakland, California. Bow and his friend and playing basketball, and then as they're leaving, they look up in the sky and see the explosion that sets the phantoms free. We distinctly see all of the different phantoms, and Baern heads right for them. So, yeah it all happened, well on Whateveritwas Friday.
In Vessel, they don't just show us clips of rioting in Metropolis, they also show us other cities, and wasn't Los Angelas one of them? I only bring that up, because that proves that California was affected. Bow (I totally forget his characters name), probably would not have been shooting hoops, and definitely would not have been worrying about studying for a test.
It is a pretty bad error IMO.
well lets hope they clarify this mistake in the future episodes, not a small mistake to let go of. makes one think that they have the one the highest paid writers, producers, directors working on this show and they failed to pick this up? or thought the audience was that dumb to not notice this? or were wondering that bow wow would divert audience from the obvious with his b-ball, ahem, skills?
Ken-El
11-05-2006, 09:33 AM
I dont think there is necessarily a hole in the plot here.....everything started rippling out from Metropolis.....computers crashing, the decay of society..etc. Clark was not in the Phantom Zone that long...i.e. much time did not pass on earth. Even though the computers crashed worldwide, it was my belief that most of the destruction occured in Metropolis because that was the epicenter of everything that was happening.....I think that Clark damaged the "Box" before the earthquake spread across the rest of the globe which may explain why Bow-Wow and his friend were playing hoops.....I even think the show referred to how long Dark Thursday lasted.....i think it was a total of a few hours......can you correct me if I am wrong on the time length.
Hydra
11-05-2006, 11:22 AM
^^ Kem-el, It was actually a world wide event that effected everyone in the world. At the end of season 5 (vessel) We see a shot of the earth where the power is being shut down across the globe far beyond the reaches of even the united states. And then in 'Sneeze' the newscast mentions that Metropolis was recovering faster than anyone else (thanks to Clark). Also as mentioned before in 'Vessel' we are specifically shown images of riots in Los Angeles and New York, so Dark thursday did extend far beyond Metropolis. I hate to say it but this is one glaring mistake that even I can't defend.
All about Clark
11-05-2006, 11:36 AM
Power was out worldwide which caused the rioting, but the satelite firing down on Earth may have started with Metropolis and would have moved on to other cities if it was not stopped by Clark. They did say Metropolis was hit hardest, so any other city would be less affected.
And I agree all 7 hit Earth on the same day, at most only an hour different because of different distances based on angles.
myankskent
11-05-2006, 12:06 PM
Originally posted by Hydra
^^ Kem-el, It was actually a world wide event that effected everyone in the world. At the end of season 5 (vessel) We see a shot of the earth where the power is being shut down across the globe far beyond the reaches of even the united states. And then in 'Sneeze' the newscast mentions that Metropolis was recovering faster than anyone else (thanks to Clark). Also as mentioned before in 'Vessel' we are specifically shown images of riots in Los Angeles and New York, so Dark thursday did extend far beyond Metropolis. I hate to say it but this is one glaring mistake that even I can't defend.
And you know something, there was a mistake with the riots long before Fallout. In Vessel, they specifically showed riots breaking out LA and New York, then they showed Chloe, Lana and Lionel running on the streets of the riots and in the very last shot of season 5 prior to seeing Clark in the phantom zone, just then the lights were starting to shut off around Metropolis as it worked further and further outward across the world. According to that shot, I can't see how they could show the riots breaking out in LA and New York before the lights turned off in those regions.
firefly01
11-05-2006, 03:02 PM
I watched Wither again (yeah, I know) and found that the invitation to Lex's costume ball had the date 10 11 06 on it, so Dark Thursday could not have been six weeks ago. Very sloppy mistake!
RedPhoenix23
11-05-2006, 03:05 PM
Originally posted by firefly01
I watched Wither again (yeah, I know)
Huh? I thought as a Lexana you'd like the Lexana ep... Or is this NOT the same firefly01 that posts on the Lexana shipper forum that shall not be named?
firefly01
11-05-2006, 03:48 PM
LOL, you know this is me. You think there's anything good about the beginning of Wither? :lol:
RedPhoenix23
11-05-2006, 04:04 PM
Originally posted by firefly01
LOL, you know this is me. You think there's anything good about the beginning of Wither? :lol:
The end of Wither was awesome. :p Nekkid Sexana!! Chimmy was cute. I actually liked Lois in this episode. *shrugs* It was a good episode. :)
hey hey, off topic boys n girls. hehe
RedPhoenix23
11-05-2006, 04:27 PM
Originally posted by firefly01
I watched Wither again (yeah, I know) and found that the invitation to Lex's costume ball had the date 10 11 06 on it, so Dark Thursday could not have been six weeks ago. Very sloppy mistake!
So lets work this out...
That would make be around Arrow 10/18ish, Reunion 10/25ish, Fallout 11/1ish.
Is that right? Because for the Smallville timeline, that actually sounds right...
superhippie2000
11-05-2006, 04:33 PM
maybe they ment 6 months or something.
xrayvision
11-05-2006, 11:00 PM
Originally posted by jonpetersbites
It's interesting though that we're six episodes into the season and they still haven't made reference to the show jumping ahead by a few months, which usually happens so that, for example, an episode in March will more or less take place in March.
I think the reference was that Met U was not gonna be open until next semester (meaning that had it not been for the events of Dark Thursday, it would be time for the fall semester). Otherwise, Lana would not have moved in with Lex and would have gone back with Nell or the Talon for the summer.
I think it was a screwup. If they would have thrown another scene showing Baern looking for Clark after Act 1 (before the opening credits) and then just as Act 2 was starting had a caption saying "4 months later" it would have made sense.
The Met U thing and Lana's healed hand are evidence to me that it has been much longer than 6 weeks since Black Thursday. I also think it's BS that the zoners would be so dissipated over the Earth when you could see all their contrails in Smallville. I remember when the Columbia Shuttle disaster happened in 2003, only the people in the vicinity would have been able to see the shuttle parts falling to the Earth, not people around the world.
Originally posted by superhippie2000
maybe they ment 6 months or something.
That would make sense. 6 months would mean it's mid November in SV time.
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