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angelfire east
11-02-2006, 07:14 PM
The whole episode Lana reminded me of a little child. Everything she did, the way she handled things, the looks on her face in scenes with Lex and Clark.

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WhiteMage
11-02-2006, 08:07 PM
Is anyone else annoyed at how clever Lana thinks she is? When Lex confronted her about how he doesn't like playing games, Lana says, "Is it the games you don't like, or is it that someone's playing on your level?" Why does Lana think she's so great? Since when is she on Lex's level? And this isn't the first time she made a comment like this...remember when Zod was in Lex's body, and he wanted an heir so him and Lana start going at it, and then he says something like "I've underestimated the females of this world" and she says, "Maybe you've just underestimated me." Honestly! Someone needs to knock her off her high horse; she isn't that special! :rolleyes:

thehenry89
11-02-2006, 09:17 PM
she reminded me more of a faux evil villaness.

paolinki25
11-02-2006, 09:19 PM
She was weird in this episode. I honestly don't know what to think of her, but I got the feeling they are hinting her possible pregnancy.

ginnyfan
11-02-2006, 09:20 PM
I feel like Lana is finally becoming a woman.

But physically she's always made me think of an 8 year old girl. That was part of my problem with Clana early on. I felt like Clark was getting it on with his little sister.

thehenry89
11-02-2006, 09:27 PM
^:lol:

Charissa70
11-02-2006, 09:29 PM
I think they were trying to have Lana hint it abit. When she took Lex's car, she said she had an ice cream craving in the middle of the night. Also, previous episodes, Lana's hair and makeup were more sophisicated. Lana looked simpler today, like she did not or could spend hours doing it. Then the look at the end, when she could not get an answer whether Lex would have chosed her or the box, she just looked weird. Normal reaction would to be pissed beyond belief. not, oh God, what have I done.

ginnyfan
11-02-2006, 09:39 PM
^Oh good point!

Skywalker
11-02-2006, 09:43 PM
This new "evil" Lana seems too forced. Just seems off. If she really wants to come off as a b****, she just needs to act the same way she's been acting for the past five years. ;) :p

AngylWylde
11-02-2006, 09:47 PM
I couldn't agree more! It's disgusting. But she has usually always acted this way with everyone. She always acts high and mighty and entitled for no reason.

She is just getting worse. Just because she sleeps with a Luthor, now she thinks she is either on their level or above them.

I think she needs to get some education, a job, and independence instead of using one person after another. Horrible character traits, I say.

myankskent
11-02-2006, 09:49 PM
I'd rather see Lana act this way than see her act in a stupid manner like she has been doing all series long. Finally the writers are giving her some intelligence as she is starting to see what Lex is all about. With a little honesty from Clark this episode to top it all off, Lana looked like a better character to me during this episode, and this season in general.

KryptoKnight
11-02-2006, 09:52 PM
I have said it before and I will always believe it until it's all over, Lana is doing what she can to stay within the circle until she gets what she wants from Lex. After that, she will be enlightened and will go away from Smallville and start another life.

ginnyfan
11-02-2006, 09:55 PM
I'm loving Lana this season. I like that she was immediately bored of the whole game of hot potato with the black (purple? LOL!) Box. She just said, "Me or the box." And quickly assumed he'd choose the box and began to take off.

I love that she seems to have her eyes wide open in this relationship. I love that Lex is not just having her for lunch. I'm so TIRED of lil' victim Lana!!! Man up and come to the party!

And she has. I think she's becoming a woman.

angelfire east
11-02-2006, 11:01 PM
Originally posted by Skywalker
This new "evil" Lana seems too forced. Just seems off. If she really wants to come off as a b****, she just needs to act the same way she's been acting for the past five years. ;) :p

:rotfl: I agree :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

God-Man
11-02-2006, 11:06 PM
Originally posted by Skywalker
This new "evil" Lana seems too forced. Just seems off. If she really wants to come off as a b****, she just needs to act the same way she's been acting for the past five years. ;) :p

Yeah, it's like she's desperately trying to match up with Lex.

hansioux
11-03-2006, 01:50 AM
Originally posted by paolinki25
She was weird in this episode. I honestly don't know what to think of her, but I got the feeling they are hinting her possible pregnancy.

if she is pregnant then at least her body will finally be bigger than her head.

Loranthius
11-03-2006, 02:00 AM
It was really hard to understand what was going on with Lana in this episode. I do, however, think that the look on her face at then end of the episode was one of I'm pregnant with Lex's baby, what have I done. I think she has come to realize who Lex really is.

If they do get engaged I think it will be because she thinks she has to because of the baby.

Kyogre
11-03-2006, 02:23 AM
serves lana right for being such a ***** to clark and trusting lex over him

InLove_with_Chloe
11-03-2006, 03:01 AM
Finally Lana is getting more interesting again, IMO...

Caper 469
11-03-2006, 10:51 AM
That last scene with Lana gave me the impression that she fully transgressed to the dark side.

boywithbluehanger
11-03-2006, 11:00 AM
It was a funny scene when Lex says "You didn't seriously think I'd choose the box over you..?"
I loved the long pause before she goes "I guess we'll never know..." I'm sure I wasnt the only one who knew that was coming. Lex set himself up for that one!

Oh and I also really liked the scene with Clark where she goes "Stop trying to think up excuses!"

Ahhh good stuff for Lana!

LanaandPete
11-03-2006, 11:08 AM
Seriously take Lana off the show, she's well past her due, her role was CLARK's HIGH SCHOOL GIRLFRIEND, stop making her more than she is, with stupid stuff like witchcraft and dark lana.

Kyogre
11-03-2006, 11:33 AM
if they make lana pregnant with lexs baby thats too much
it just shows smallville has jumped the shark

i hate lana and i hate lexana even more

ddacosta81
11-03-2006, 12:40 PM
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but before this season started, Smallville's creators were quoted in interviews saying that Lana would play an pivotal role in making Clark and Lex enemies. While I hate that idea, Lex definitely keeps turning up his distain for Clark when their discussions take place in Lana's presence.

And what was up with the last Lexana scene? I was waiting for Lana to say "Lex, I want you to look me in the eye and tell me you don't Love me."

I find it hard to make sense of her decision to stay with Lex after the strain on their relationship during this episode. Her understandable requirement for honesty from a boyfriend is just thrown out the window when Lex is concerned. Is she staying with Lex because she loves him? Is she pregnant? Is she auditioning for his evil henchwoman position? Does she want to save him from himself? If she wanted to keep an eye on him and prevent him from using the device LexZod left behind, that's gone now.

smchic92
11-03-2006, 01:44 PM
Originally posted by paolinki25
She was weird in this episode. I honestly don't know what to think of her, but I got the feeling they are hinting her possible pregnancy.


Yeah, I kinda got that feeling too. And I agree, Lana was really weird in this epi. I don't know what to think of her either. I mean, she seems so "bad" now and, even though they didn't come right out and say it, I definetly walked away with the feeling that Lana is definetly pregnant(even though I knew that already). I LOVED her line though to Lex in the bedroom(convinent :rolleyes: ) where he says something and she says, "Is it the game you hate or that someone's playing it on your level?" or something along those lines. I can't tell if I like her or if she still annoys me. :lol:

Coyote
11-03-2006, 02:00 PM
Lana was annoying in this episode. The real Lex Luthor would never put up with her silly disloyal nonsense, and of course he would never really pick Lana over the box. That's ridiculous. Ultimate power, or Lana? That's a no brainer choice if there ever was one. Lex needs to call that little twit's bluff when she makes her ultimatums, and tell her that if she doesn't like the way he takes care of his business she can get out if his house any time. Not as if she'd be hard to replace.

Kyogre
11-03-2006, 02:07 PM
Originally posted by Coyote
Lana was annoying in this episode. The real Lex Luthor would never put up with her silly disloyal nonsense, and of course he would never really pick Lana over the box. That's ridiculous. Ultimate power, or Lana? That's a no brainer choice if there ever was one. Lex needs to call that little twit's bluff when she makes her ultimatums, and tell her that if she doesn't like the way he takes care of his business she can get out if his house any time. Not as if she'd be hard to replace.
Lana is annoying in every episode since season 3 :lol:
i agree on your points there the real lex luthor wouldve kicked her sorry a$$ out of that house.and picking lana over the box wth!

nemrod
11-03-2006, 02:09 PM
but she looks like she's ready to run back to clark, and she seriously got doubts about lex and he about her, lexanna is dead long live clana.....

Kyogre
11-03-2006, 02:13 PM
Originally posted by nemrod
but she looks like she's ready to run back to clark, and she seriously got doubts about lex and he about her, lexanna is dead long live clana.....
i hope she runs back and clark rejects her :D

STFanatic
11-03-2006, 02:15 PM
I would have liked to hear a response from Lex along the lines of:
"Lana, you and the black box are two diffrent things, one is business, the other is personal, if you cannot tell the diffrence, then we need to make some changes." Then he walks away.
That would be more evil Lex like.

lee_the_flee
11-03-2006, 02:23 PM
Originally posted by Skywalker
This new "evil" Lana seems too forced. Just seems off. If she really wants to come off as a b****, she just needs to act the same way she's been acting for the past five years.


Originally posted by hansioux
if she is pregnant then at least her body will finally be bigger than her head.

:rotfl: :rotfl: hilarious, yet it still holds some truth.

Fly by guy
11-03-2006, 02:24 PM
Lana looked small and childish. Her car scene with the doctor and her finale scene with Lex didn't come across as believable. I always thought Michael and Kristin's age difference made it hard for me to like seeing them together. Even as Lex and Lana, I just don't see the chemistry.
Lana's performance seemed uneven. Her best scene was at the hospital when she told Clark to just tell her what he wanted without the lie.

Luv Clana/Hate Lexana
11-03-2006, 03:15 PM
Personally, I loved Lana in this episode. I thought she was AMAZING. She wasn't scared of Lex and I liked that. Yeah, she's getting in a little over her head... but it's better than sitting on the sidelines and letting that jerk take advantage of her.

Rafael122
11-03-2006, 03:31 PM
1 - I don't think Lana's evil.

2 - The last scene, at least to me told me that Lana's miserable. I mean has she had one happy moment with Lex? At all?

TheSupaMan
11-03-2006, 03:32 PM
As in the notorious words of the Magnificent Bastard, Lana is playing a very dangerous game.

DarkseidNow
11-03-2006, 03:39 PM
Lana thinks she's on Lex's level of manipulation?? Seriously???

If this was football Lex would be a professional player. Lana's not even on the JV team for high school.

Seriously!

umm
11-03-2006, 03:57 PM
Originally posted by DarkseidNow
Lana thinks she's on Lex's level of manipulation?? Seriously???

If this was football Lex would be a professional player. Lana's not even on the JV team for high school.

Seriously!

I can't believe that girl! This is what makes me wish that Angel was never canceled, that Cordy never died, and that they did a crossover, where Cordy came to Smallville and beat the h*** out of Lana, in every sense of the world! Mentally, verbaly and heck yes, physically!
Cos the girl soo deserves it, for her five years worth of whining, her double standards, her narcissism, her many possible career paths, her egocism, her hybris: I mean to even think she is anywhere near Lex' level or playingfield, and yes even her borring long hair! I mean hasn't she ever heard of a haircut?
Yeah, I really wish they would do a crossover!

MetroGirl06
11-03-2006, 03:59 PM
I was very irritated with Lana this episode. She really needs to get off her high PINK horse, LOL.

F-Stop Blues
11-03-2006, 04:00 PM
If the writers make Lana "on the same level" as Lex than I am going to flip out.

umm
11-03-2006, 04:02 PM
Originally posted by F-Stop Blues
If the writers make Lana "on the same level" as Lex than I am going to flip out.

Well start prepering for a nervous breakdown, cos the way writters are going, she will soon be making all decissions for Lex, including running his many companies!:)

thehenry89
11-03-2006, 04:05 PM
i'd just like to take this moment to say wtf. she borrows lex's car in the middle of the night and tells him "i didn't think it would be a big deal" yes it is a big deal when you steal someone's car, and lets not sugar coat it people she did steal lex's car. then after all her bull about secrets and lies and blah blah she lies to lex and he calls her on it and what was her response "i guess were even" she is without a doubt the worlds biggest hipocrate.

umm
11-03-2006, 04:14 PM
Originally posted by thehenry89
i'd just like to take this moment to say wtf. she borrows lex's car in the middle of the night and tells him "i didn't think it would be a big deal" yes it is a big deal when you steal someone's car, and lets not sugar coat it people she did steal lex's car. then after all her bull about secrets and lies and blah blah she lies to lex and he calls her on it and what was her response "i guess were even" she is without a doubt the worlds biggest hipocrate.

It's like with very season, her love of herself grows bigger, the people around her are just there to serve her needs, and when she doesn't need them for advice or a favour, they don't exist! Lana is living in 'Lanaland', and she let's people in, when they have to preform their duties! Chloe: advice and occasional help from sticky situations, Clark: protection, love and help, a function which now has been passed over to Lex!
Yeah, it must be great to live in 'Lanaland'!

MeLoveYouLongTime
11-03-2006, 04:20 PM
Originally posted by hansioux
if she is pregnant then at least her body will finally be bigger than her head.

LMAO.That's honestly why i've never understood how anyone could find KK sexy.I mean,she's undeniably gorgeous but she's physically too tiny to be anything but.

DarkseidNow
11-03-2006, 04:21 PM
Yeah I noticed that she has only contacted Chloe if she needs information or if she wants to ***** about her relationship with Lex.

You know what would be interesting is if she tried to force Chloe to reveal what she knows about Clark. I mean, as self-absorbed and hypcritical as Lana is, she has to know that Chloe knows Clark's secret.

Timester
11-03-2006, 04:24 PM
This is Holly Harold's Lana.

a silent liaison
11-03-2006, 04:29 PM
Why does Lana think she's so great?


Since when is she on Lex's level?

I don't necessarily believe that Lana thinks she's ''great.'' I realize that Lana has been acting different lately, but this doesn't prove that she feels ''superior'' to others. Lex, on the other hand, points out frequently that he feels ''superior'' when it comes to others.

On a side-note, am I the only one worried about Lex and Lana's romantic relationship? Is it just me, or is it seemingly un-healthy, not only for Lana, but Lex as well?

umm
11-03-2006, 04:37 PM
Originally posted by DarkseidNow
Yeah I noticed that she has only contacted Chloe if she needs information or if she wants to ***** about her relationship with Lex.

You know what would be interesting is if she tried to force Chloe to reveal what she knows about Clark. I mean, as self-absorbed and hypcritical as Lana is, she has to know that Chloe knows Clark's secret.

No, she doesn't! That would take her actually taking time to be interested in what the people whom she supposedly considers to be her friends, are up to!
But, this is Lana we are talkning about, and inquiering how Chloe spent her day is too much effort, or checking up on Martha, if nothing for the sake of good old days, or even Clark; heck she owns him at least that much, is too much to ask cos those kind of things are not worth Lana's time!:\ :confused:
See, she is far to occupied with, well LANA! I mean, Lana is what really matters in the world, right?:o

a silent liaison
11-03-2006, 04:44 PM
While I don't much care for the ''new'' Lana, I don't think that she is coming off ''forced.'' I'm not telling anyone what they're seeing, but I think everyone is used to seeing the ''nice'' Lana, verses the ''hostile'' Lana. It's a rapid transition that will certainly take time to get used to.

velocity
11-03-2006, 04:55 PM
god, it doesn't matter what Lana say and do. it's still annoying, selfish, childish etc.

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DPRO2006
11-03-2006, 05:00 PM
Originally posted by Rafael122
2 - The last scene, at least to me told me that Lana's miserable. I mean has she had one happy moment with Lex? At all? [/B]
one..the love scene at the end of Wither...

velocity
11-03-2006, 05:06 PM
Originally posted by umm
No, she doesn't! That would take her actually taking time to be interested in what the people whom she supposedly considers to be her friends, are up to! But, this is Lana we are talkning about, and inquiering how Chloe spent her day is too much effort, or checking up on Martha, if nothing for the sake of good old days, or even Clark; heck she owns him at least that much, is too much to ask cos those kind of things are not worth Lana's time!:\ :confused: See, she is far to occupied with, well LANA! I mean, Lana is what reallu matters in the world, right?:o
God.
She doesn't owe clark a thing in her mind, he led her on wtih promises he never kept.
And yes, we know everything about Clark - we can sympathize with him. Lana can't.

And, Lana is not the one who spied on Clark for Lionel Luthor to further her own career as a journalist.
Who did that? noone other than princess chloe.

DarkseidNow
11-03-2006, 05:14 PM
But at the same time, despite all their differences and even before she found out about his secret, Chloe always looked out for Clark. She could have told Lionel where Clark was when he was running around Metropolis on Red-K but she didn't. Lana can't say that can she?

Whenever Clark warned Lana about how dangerous one of the revolving door of males who became psychotically obsessed with her she would rip into him. And even when Lana found out about his secret in "Reckoning", the first thing she does after accepting Clark's proposal for marriage was run to Lex.

Please, Chloe is head and shoulders above Lana.

umm
11-03-2006, 05:29 PM
Originally posted by DarkseidNow
Please, Chloe is head and shoulders above Lana.

Exactly!

velocity
11-03-2006, 05:29 PM
Originally posted by DarkseidNow
But at the same time, despite all their differences and even before she found out about his secret, Chloe always looked out for Clark. She could have told Lionel where Clark was when he was running around Metropolis on Red-K but she didn't. Lana can't say that can she?

Whenever Clark warned Lana about how dangerous one of the revolving door of males who became psychotically obsessed with her she would rip into him. And even when Lana found out about his secret in "Reckoning", the first thing she does after accepting Clark's proposal for marriage was run to Lex.

Please, Chloe is head and shoulders above Lana.

Lana can't say that, what is that suppose to mean? i didn't see her telling anyone but Jonathan & Martha about clarks whereabouts. One thing Chloe can't says is "I've never spied on you for Lionel Luthor". But Lana can.

By revolving doors of men you mean Ian and Lex? god, both Lana and Chloe got upset with Clark's accusations about Ian.

Anyway, there is a HUGE differnce between being upset with someone and betraying someone by spying on them for a very dangerous man.

Running to Lex? She went to Lex because he was upset about losing the election. Blindly, Lana thought of Lex as a close friend then. So, what is wrong with helping a friend in need?

My point is, Lana has never betrayed him like Chloe did becasue she was angry with him.

moira
11-03-2006, 05:47 PM
Lana needs to go......Get off the show already. That last scene with Lex, I thought she was going to vomit. She's finally realizing how much she has screwed up being with Lex. She's going to come back crawling to Clark....What a sap!!!

DarkseidNow
11-03-2006, 06:11 PM
Originally posted by velocity
Lana can't say that, what is that suppose to mean? i didn't see her telling anyone but Jonathan & Martha about clarks whereabouts. One thing Chloe can't says is "I've never spied on you for Lionel Luthor". But Lana can.

By revolving doors of men you mean Ian and Lex? god, both Lana and Chloe got upset with Clark's accusations about Ian.

Anyway, there is a HUGE differnce between being upset with someone and betraying someone by spying on them for a very dangerous man.

Running to Lex? She went to Lex because he was upset about losing the election. Blindly, Lana thought of Lex as a close friend then. So, what is wrong with helping a friend in need?

My point is, Lana has never betrayed him like Chloe did becasue she was angry with him.

Yes, but at the same time, Lana was now engaged to the son of a state senator. It's a bit fishy that she is running off to see the new Senator's opponentn the night that he wins.

And yes, I can see what you mean with Chloe's betrayals in the past. But in terms of the males obsessed with Lana, how many FoTWs came after Lana because they were obsessively in love with her? I tried to count but I ran outta fingers. And at the same time Clark would warn her about these freaks and she would say something feeble like "There is nothing wrong with him Clark. I can't believ you!"

euterpe
11-03-2006, 06:15 PM
Am I the only one who noticed what a hypocrite Lana was in this episode? Just two weeks ago Lex asked her if she wanted him to stop investigating the box and she told him no. She told Lex she WANTED him to study the black box because she believed it was the only chance of defending earth should the ‘aliens’ return. Now she’s pulling a complete 180!

It seems the only reason she changed her tune was because she realized Lex hadn’t told her he was now working with the military. However, she didn’t inform him she was sneaking out to meet with the researching doctor behind his back either. So she has no right to be angry, as far as I can see.

She should be glad he’s now working with the military, a government institution. That means the project is now subject to oversight and accountability that private industry is not. I get a little annoyed at how they always portray the military as the bad guys on this show.

RedPhoenix23
11-03-2006, 06:34 PM
Originally posted by DarkseidNow
Yes, but at the same time, Lana was now engaged to the son of a state senator. It's a bit fishy that she is running off to see the new Senator's opponentn the night that he wins.

And yes, I can see what you mean with Chloe's betrayals in the past. But in terms of the males obsessed with Lana, how many FoTWs came after Lana because they were obsessively in love with her? I tried to count but I ran outta fingers. And at the same time Clark would warn her about these freaks and she would say something feeble like "There is nothing wrong with him Clark. I can't believ you!"

Lex was Lana's freind and he was in need, that was all that mattered. Period.

Oh please, Chloe used to get just as ticked off as Lana whenever she caught Clark lying to her to protect his precious little secret. Chloe even fired him from the Torch at one point because she couldn't take it anymore. Chloe has had a round of crazies obsessed with her. Just at the top of my head: there was that guy that sucked the body heat out of girls in season 1, Ian in season 2, the guy that could move things with his mind, the wax guy in forever, the fool that shot Clark in Hidden... That's all I can think of right now, lol. But is ALOT. Clark tends to but in and get all jealous boyfriendish whenever ANY of his girls start dating and butts in where he's not wanted. Anybody would get mad and tell him to kiss their "grits". Clarkie has been a good boy so far this season with Jimmy, but I wouldn't be surprised if he'd tries to blame something on Jimmy later on.

Charybdis
11-03-2006, 06:53 PM
Clearly, Lana has been possessed by Isobel. Isobel had that expression because she doesn't understand proper 21st century mannerisms and is searching for the right one. DUH. CLEARLY~

Coyote
11-03-2006, 06:58 PM
Lana stabbed Lex in the back in this episode. The man wasn't doing anything "evil", as far as she knew. He was working desperately to protect the entire world from hostile aliens with incredible power. Yes, he was doing it with the military. Why wouldn't he? They are the proper legal authorities our nation has to handle that kind of project. A few weeks ago Lana was pretending to support Lex on this. Now the idiot turns around and tries to sabotage him for no sensible reason. Lex should quit putting up with her nonsense.

s_q
11-03-2006, 07:08 PM
i think lana will get killed by lex in the end. coz according to that scientist dude...whoever is as deep as those two are with the luthors, they cant get out thigns this easy. and i think lana will be killed by lex along with ofcourse lionel, and thats how the real hatred starts between lex and clark.

JaxN
11-03-2006, 07:24 PM
Originally posted by s_q
i think lana will get killed by lex in the end. coz according to that scientist dude...whoever is as deep as those two are with the luthors, they cant get out thigns this easy. and i think lana will be killed by lex along with ofcourse lionel, and thats how the real hatred starts between lex and clark.

wooo!! let's celebrate

Paint the K
11-03-2006, 07:30 PM
Lana is so ungrateful for ALL the times Clark saved her. What an ungrateful beeotch!!! She deserves to die a painful death, IMO.

Anybody have stats on how many times he has saved her... it seemed like every other episode.

emily feist
11-03-2006, 08:10 PM
Based on the end of the episode I would say she is starting to realize how deep she is in with Lex. She's disappointed because her presence in his life wasn't enough for him to stay on a good path. She might suspect she's pregnant but next episode is the confirmation of it. I think she's also starting to realize that getting with Lex to hurt Clark is going to hurt her more in the long run. Thus she was more civil to Clark in this episode.

I think she'll feel even worse knowing she's pregnant because she doesn't love Lex and he doesn't really love her. To bring a child into this is depressing.
But I think she needs to face these consequences. She should have dealt with the break up with Clark in a mature manner. Now she is in a horrible situation with a cruel man because she wanted to piss off her ex. I know none of the other characters will say "I told you so" but they should. She needs to hear the truth even if it's harsh.

RedPhoenix23
11-03-2006, 08:20 PM
Lana didn't really stab Lex in the back. Groll came to Lana this ep, not the other way around. Lana is afraid of the alien threat but she's also afraid of turning the black box into a weapon - AGAIN. Which must be why Lex didn't tell her that he was beginning a round of tests with the military on it. Because military would only have one use for the box - as a weapon. And weapon is no good until you use it, at least once.

I am not real sure why Lana didn't just confront Lex to begin with, instead of playing a round of hide the box though. Just like Lex said, she had to have known he'd find out. I think mainly she was wanting to test him, fair play since he already tested her in Arrow. Lana ultimately wanted to see if she was more important than that damn box. Especially if she's sensing something special is happening to her body... Lana did seem a little "sickly" throughout the ep... if you know what I mean.

All about Clark
11-03-2006, 08:34 PM
Excellent post, emily feist.

Lana stated to Lex she wasn't going anywhere. I was yelling at the TV "WHY!!!" So maybe she does suspect the pregnancy. It would have to be the only reason she is sticking around.

She mentioned to Chloe she often found herself too deep and not being able to get out of it. That seemed to be the perfect set-up for this.

So my question, is just how long will Lana stay stupid and stay with Lex?

Coyote
11-03-2006, 09:48 PM
Well of course Lex and the military wanted to use the box as a weapon. That's the point. They don't need the thing to roast weenies. They need it to fight off super powered aliens. If Lex hasn't gone completely insane there's no way Lana could be more important to him than the box. But of course Lana would be enough of a self-absorbed dope to imagine she's more important than an alien artifact of untold power that could save the entire human race from annihilation. That girl is on such a high horse she needs a parachute to get down.

MBCorp
11-03-2006, 10:13 PM
I don't understand why Lana was all, "We've got to use the box to save humanity!" just a little bit ago, but now she's completely changed her tune. I can never understand where they're going with that character.

Pal-El
11-03-2006, 10:16 PM
Originally posted by MBCorp
I don't understand why Lana was all, "We've got to use the box to save humanity!" just a little bit ago, but now she's completely changed her tune. I can never understand where they're going with that character.

Neither can they:rolleyes:

Kyogre
11-04-2006, 12:07 AM
Great lana pregnant will even make her alot whinier

Admiral_N8
11-04-2006, 01:03 AM
Yeah she really is the biggest hypicrite....it gets really annoying. I swear the writers must just forget what has happened to Lana in previous episodes.

Lana has no idea what she is doing. She is one of those "Sure you saved my life yesterday, but you havent done anything for me TODAY so I dont trust you" type girls.

The one who says "I hate you because you keep secrets from me" and goes and meets in a dark alleyway trying to fight against something your loved one is trying so hard to achieve.


Lana is by far the worst character....ever.

Admiral_N8
11-04-2006, 01:17 AM
Originally posted by WhiteMage
Is anyone else annoyed at how clever Lana thinks she is? When Lex confronted her about how he doesn't like playing games, Lana says, "Is it the games you don't like, or is it that someone's playing on your level?" Why does Lana think she's so great? Since when is she on Lex's level? And this isn't the first time she made a comment like this...remember when Zod was in Lex's body, and he wanted an heir so him and Lana start going at it, and then he says something like "I've underestimated the females of this world" and she says, "Maybe you've just underestimated me." Honestly! Someone needs to knock her off her high horse; she isn't that special! :rolleyes:


Couldn't have said it better myself.


Lana is the worst character on the show. She drags the show down. Its almost like the writers lost a bet and HAVE to keep Lana on and write her to be the worst character ever to be a main character on a great show.


And WHY MUST THE WORLD REVOLVE AROUND LANA??

Why must every Freak of the Week be after Lana? Why must the future richest and most intelligent man on earth be after Lana? Why must an alien with superhuman abilities be after Lana??


She is NOT that great. In fact, she is terrible.


God, I love SV, but Lana REALLY makes her scenes hard to tolerate.

SOTK
11-04-2006, 03:34 AM
Originally posted by emily feist
Based on the end of the episode I would say she is starting to realize how deep she is in with Lex. She's disappointed because her presence in his life wasn't enough for him to stay on a good path. She might suspect she's pregnant but next episode is the confirmation of it. I think she's also starting to realize that getting with Lex to hurt Clark is going to hurt her more in the long run. Thus she was more civil to Clark in this episode.

I think she'll feel even worse knowing she's pregnant because she doesn't love Lex and he doesn't really love her. To bring a child into this is depressing.
But I think she needs to face these consequences. She should have dealt with the break up with Clark in a mature manner. Now she is in a horrible situation with a cruel man because she wanted to piss off her ex. I know none of the other characters will say "I told you so" but they should. She needs to hear the truth even if it's harsh.

Good post and those are my thoughts on the subject as well. As with other fans, I have been trying to figure her out lately. After watching this episode, I too feel that Lana realizes that she totally screwed up. Personally, I take the comments she made (makes) to Lex with a grain of salt- the whole "I'm on your level" type of comments. I think she knows Lex is out of her league. Not only that, I don't think she is capable of even being in his league. In other words, I don't buy for a second that Lana wants to be "evil" or even understands how to be evil. It's not in her nature to be so and she isn't smart enough to pull it off which is why I have had such a hard time figuring what she is up to.

I don't care for Lana as much as the next fan, but I definitely don't believe in this "Evil Lana" theory or buy the notion that that's where her character is going. I think it would be accurate to describe her as immature, naive, somewhat selfish, impulsive, and a bad judge of character; however, she is decidedly and not even remotely "evil".

Timester
11-04-2006, 07:07 AM
I also don't buy the "Evil Lana" theory. This Lana is nothing more than the Lana we saw since season 2. The difference is she is no longer hiding herself with the pink princess attitude.

smallvilleobsessor17
11-04-2006, 09:53 AM
Lana is just completely pathetic. Whenever she tries to come off as having an attitude or being evil, it just doesn't work. She sounds like a little two year old who is upset because she didn't get the toy she wanted at the store. She needs to get a grip. And Lana deserves to get pregnant with that fool's baby; she's an idiot and had this coming to her.

Jephael
11-04-2006, 12:51 PM
The sad truth of the matter is Lana is your basic ditzy rebel-without-a-cause who tries so hard to stand up for herself but she lacks the backbone to do anything.

jimmyolsenblues
11-04-2006, 01:03 PM
I just hope now that Clark has accepted his destiny , his concern and screen time with lana will decrease.

JaxN
11-04-2006, 02:42 PM
Lana is useless in the plot.. she better off leaving

umm
11-04-2006, 03:01 PM
Originally posted by Jephael
The sad truth of the matter is Lana is your basic ditzy rebel-without-a-cause who tries so hard to stand up for herself but she lacks the backbone to do anything.

Wow! That's what I call, having a way with words! My hat comes off to you!:)

Short, precise, but razor sharp at the same time! A perfect insult, or to put it nicely, a perfect qriticue!

angelfire east
11-04-2006, 03:05 PM
Mod Note:

I have merged three threads into one in. The threads are "Lana," "Lana needs to get off her high horse," and "Lana the Hypocrite"

I'd like to remind people that this is not a Chloe vs Lana thread. which one is better or worse. Please keep to subject at hand.

Thank you

Fly by guy
11-04-2006, 06:39 PM
What I think Lana has done for the series is give Clark a SECOND goal. There had to be more than developing is powers and saving the day. Lana was not just a goal for Clark to have a girlfriend. She was a way of making Clark feel more human and more connected then the shy kid that hid away on the farm.

Lana gave Clark hope. He broke his own heart and hers but those things pass and one day they will be friends again and IMO that will only make Clark emotionally stronger.

We are already seeing the light come on for Lana each time Lex opens another door of deceit. She has been written as clueless, but I think they may finally be getting it right. Lana should be independent and skeptical of everything that Lex says or does. I was glad to see her talking to Clark and opening up about what she knows about him and what she was willing to reveal about Lex. Some would call that deceitful. I call it being afraid, afraid of what bad Lex can and would do.

I can hear the little mouse wheel turning.........................squeak.
Lana's not the brightest light on the Christmas tree but occasionally she does twinkle.

All about Clark
11-04-2006, 08:38 PM
It does seem that Lana is delusional about her keeping up with Lex.

She seems to think she can use him for love and attention and detour him from doing wrong and helping herself stay in the loop about the SV goings on. I don't think it's long before she realizes she failed on all accounts.

As for Clana, I agree that Clark needed her to feel hope and connection to humans, and wishing to be the same. But as he gets more powerful with each passing day I think he feels more separated/different than humans than ever before.

KryptoKnight
11-04-2006, 09:12 PM
Originally posted by ginnyfan
...I think she's becoming a woman.

Yeah, she definitely is. And as I look at all the characters, it really looks like Lana is the one who has changed most in appearance. Still looks great but older.

oracle259
11-04-2006, 11:31 PM
Who cares about lana she seems to attract men who lie to her face and she seems to just swallow it. Frankly, I cant figure out why Clark hasnt told her his secret after Pa Kent died u would figure that Pa died for something at least. But sad to say lana is just plain tired of the liars in her life. She cant bear to swallow anymore of Clarks sob stories and has a shorter fuse when it comes to Lex. If Lana becomes pregnant for lex as everyone keeps sayin i think it will spell the end for lana's in SM. Plus after she breaks up with Lex (and u know she will) its all down hill from there. By the way has anyone realized that up to this point lana, clark, chole and lois are all college drop-outs.

Ares
11-05-2006, 12:43 AM
Lana should probably die. yes.

STFanatic
11-05-2006, 12:59 AM
Lana will not die, she is a concrete character in the Superman legend.
That said, Lana may indeed have a child with Lex, then she may flee the country to get away from Lex, or she could stay with Lex and the child may die.

Those are the two senearios I think may happen, but she WILL not die, she is not a disposable character, to kill her of would be the same as killing Lois, Perry White, Jimmy Olsen or any other character created by another writer, the character is not the brainchild of the current writers.
That would be like killing off Robin in a Batman series.
Lana no matter how someone feels about how she is written is another part of the Superman mythos. Lana first appeared in Superboy #10 (September-October 1950) you can't just off a character that was developed that far back as a part of history.
The writers of Smallville can treat her character any way they feel fit, but not bump her off like a redshirt in Star Trek.
They can make her a hooker strung out on crack, they can make her president of the galaxy, but they can't permanantly cause her to atain room temprature.

I personally do not like the way they have treated her character on this series, but I don't want her dead, I think Kristin has done an exceptional job acting with the scripts they have given her to use. I think they may actually pull her character out of the dumpster yet, they may have something up thier creative sleeves to bring Lana back to be loved by everyone by the end of this season. (At least I hope)

Ares
11-05-2006, 01:06 AM
she cant

TheOriginalKal-el
11-05-2006, 01:07 AM
Another fine example of "so and so must die". Good grief.

SOTK
11-05-2006, 01:11 AM
Originally posted by STFanatic
Lana will not die, she is a concrete character in the Superman legend.
That said, Lana may indeed have a child with Lex, then she may flee the country to get away from Lex, or she could stay with Lex and the child may die.

Those are the two senearios I think may happen, but she WILL not die, she is not a disposable character, to kill her of would be the same as killing Lois, Perry White, Jimmy Olsen or any other character created by another writer, the character is not the brainchild of the current writers.
That would be like killing off Robin in a Batman series.
Lana no matter how someone feels about how she is written is another part of the Superman mythos. Lana first appeared in Superboy #10 (September-October 1950) you can't just off a character that was developed that far back as a part of history.
The writers of Smallville can treat her character any way they feel fit, but not bump her off like a redshirt in Star Trek.
They can make her a hooker strung out on crack, they can make her president of the galaxy, but they can't permanantly cause her to atain room temprature.

I personally do not like the way they have treated her character on this series, but I don't want her dead, I think Kristin has done an exceptional job acting with the scripts they have given her to use. I think they may actually pull her character out of the dumpster yet, they may have something up thier creative sleeves to bring Lana back to be loved by everyone by the end of this season. (At least I hope)

I'm not holding my breath on that one, however, I agree that it would be in everybody's best interest if Lana was restored to a more appealing character in the series.

Ares
11-05-2006, 02:02 AM
hopefully lex shows whose the smarter one some time in this season

SOTK
11-05-2006, 05:57 AM
I'm sure he will!

darkone
11-05-2006, 09:34 AM
Uhm i like the character progression of Lana this season surely her character has flaws but so does every other character.I think the reason why people are upset about her is just because she owns Kent´s ass and now is Luthor on her list. Go Lana!:p

myankskent
11-05-2006, 10:59 AM
I'm liking Lana this season because she is remaining calm for the most part with Clark. Take this episode, for example. After Lex left the hospital room, Lana calmly walked up to Clark and asked him what the real reason was for him being there. Then when Clark tried to wiggle his way out of answering it, Lana told him to stop trying to think up excuses and to just talk to her. Lana showed patience in that scene while being direct, but she wasn't hurtful in any way by yelling at Clark or putting him down. Then Clark was honest with her about the diagram, and Lana was honest back about it.

All about Clark
11-05-2006, 11:11 AM
There was progression with Lana in the Clark/Lana scene. She wasn't angry and knew he really wasn't there for their health.

I kind of believe that Lana maybe clueing into Clark and that he knows about all of the interworkings of stuff gone wrong and anytime she sees him, things calm down directly afterwards. I wouldn't put it past her to spy on him. And I say that because her usual MO is to come back to Clark when things go wrong with whoever she is with. Maybe even go so far as to have Clark be her back-up boyfriend while she is with Lex. And that is why I think the kiss to Clark is from Lana.

MasterJonSt
11-05-2006, 11:45 AM
Having sort of skipped ahead between fallout and when Clark broke up with Lana in Hypnotic, I really didn't see why the Clana scene in Fallout was so big, she still didn't seem very friendly with him.

cmm
11-05-2006, 07:10 PM
While I like the way she's dealing with Clark, it still bothers me that she's somewhat cold to him. I don't get Lex can lie to her face do things which are immoral and she's still there for him. I gotta say though I like this version of the character better as annoying as she is at least she's making definative choices now. She's not flip flopping. I also like how lex put her in her place this eppy.