TV Ratings for Reunion

[xrayvision]

Talk about the ratings for Reunion here when they're available.

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From Zap2it:
"Smallville" posted a 2.9/5 for The CW.

[Damali]

From Mediaweek: (http://www.mediaweek.com/mw/newsletters/proginsider/index.jsp)


The CW’s Smallville, meanwhile, held up at a 3.7/ 6 in the overnights, 4.79 million viewers and a 2.2/ 6 among adults 18-49. Comparably, Smallville matched its season highs in adults 18-34 and 18-49.

[Timester]

Better than last week. I'm going to start preaching "Good episode last week = ratings".

[myankskent]

The bottom line is that these ratings are going to be good enough to get the show picked up for next year. The other CW shows stink and there is no way that The CW would get rid of smallville if they pull in these types of ratings. Are they as high as last year? No, not even close, but it really doesn't matter anymore.

[Timester]

Originally posted by myankskent
The bottom line is that these ratings are going to be good enough to get the show picked up for next year. The other CW shows stink and there is no way that The CW would get rid of smallville if they pull in these types of ratings. Are they as high as last year? No, not even close, but it really doesn't matter anymore.

If Smallville manages to keep up the good stories and avoid the lame stuff, it might even get back to the 5.5 million. Although, I fear for some spoilers (for those that don't know and want to know, check the spoilers forum, I'm not going to spoil here). :\

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From Futon Critic:

Fresh installments of "Smallville" (households: 2.9/5, #12; adults 18-49: 2.2, #12) and "Supernatural" (households: 2.2/3, #13; adults 18-49: 1.7, #13) on The CW (households: 2.5/4, #5; adults 18-49: 1.9, #5) closed out the night.

Compared to last year:

New episodes of "Smallville" (households: 3.4/6, #11; adults 18-49: 2.6, #7) and "Everwood" (households: 2.7/4, #14; adults 18-49: 1.4, #T14) on The WB (households: 3.0/5, #5; adults 18-49: 2.0, #T4)

No Baseball last year.

Link (http://www.thefutoncritic.com/ratings.aspx?id=thursday)

[Naomi]

Oh awesome :D

[adamastor]

Considering that all the other shows were repeats, an increase in 140,000 people is nothing! It's doing bad! Specially if you consider that the CW promoted Smallville as their best show and made it seem that it was the best thing since sliced bread!

[Timester]

Originally posted by adamastor
Considering that all the other shows were repeats, an increase in 140,000 people is nothing! It's doing bad! Specially if you consider that the CW promoted Smallville as their best show and made it seem that it was the best thing since sliced bread!

Well, considering that it is the 2nd/3rd most watched CW show...

[superpal1]

Except for Wither, I think that Smallville is going strong. With the edition of Clark battling Zoners and with the Green Arrow stories working, I expect the ratings to improve. I also think that the ratings are great for the new network, which is not picked up by all the media outlets yet.

[Krypto/DQ/]

Originally posted by superpal1
Except for Wither, I think that Smallville is going strong. With the edition of Clark battling Zoners and with the Green Arrow stories working, I expect the ratings to improve. I also think that the ratings are great for the new network, which is not picked up by all the media outlets yet.


The only thing missing is the Chlark! :D :p

[d.g225]

oh please most of the other shows like my name is earl and the office were all reapets!!! comeparied to last year this show is going down! im sorry to say it but it is!!! im so sick of lex being made as a victom! what he did to duccen was worng on so may levels!!! and i thought clark was the lead of the show !! where the hell is jimmy i like the dude !!! lana is the next luther girl lois is the new cloie and clark is still a dumbass!!! next week we have a new alcia coming back!! can you say season 4 !! oh and al and milles said they were woried back in 04 cause the rateings were not good !!! news falsh season 6 rateings are no were near as high as seaone 4 so the writng sucks they need to fix this carp if they want a seaon 7!!! but come on its wishfull thinking!!!

[monstra]

Actually the ratings suck, there was no 'the office' and 'my name is earl' yet the increase was extremely low, if these shows wouldve aired now that wouldve been a different story

anyways, are repeats on next week too?

[Absentee]

ummm... you do realize that Smallville was the only episode on that timeslot besides the World Series that didn't an air a repeat.

What's an increase of 140,000?? That's nothing. It should've been higher especially with a new episode.

There was no competition and still no one watched.

Maybe they should promote Clark Kent... you know, the "star" of this show.

[jimmyolsenblues]

Originally posted by Timester
"Good episode last week = ratings".

I agree, the better the plot the more the ratings will grow. Stop with the who loves me who does not love me. Give me some good stories.

[MBCorp]

Originally posted by Timester
Better than last week. I'm going to start preaching "Good episode last week = ratings".

Yes, maybe this will stop people from going on and on about the ratings hinging on certain characters/ships.

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Originally posted by adamastor
Considering that all the other shows were repeats, an increase in 140,000 people is nothing! It's doing bad! Specially if you consider that the CW promoted Smallville as their best show and made it seem that it was the best thing since sliced bread!


Ugly Betty was new and CBS ran a catchup episode of Survivor to try to attract new viewers.

[monstra]

We're still at 'Hypnotic' high from last year, how can you guys be happy about this, what about the long break in Dec/Jan, Smallvilles ratings always go down in the next arcs, imagine now what the ratings will be then

And UB doesnt really take many SVL viewers, since its a show for females, and you guys have said it over and over again that the males are the ones that watch this show. Your words not mine.

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The good thing about the Break is that "Justice" airs after it.

[d.g225]

its not about the ships. the writing is just plain bad the stroys suck and they have bow wow on next week !!!i mean come on!!! lex is not the dame victim cause mommy died and daddy dident love him! lex is a sociapatih!! in his mind it wasent his fault what happend to ducan it was olivers and his friends and his dad !!! im sorry but he is the bad guy!!! hell why dont they give him a red cape and change the name to lexville!!!

[joesmallville]

Originally posted by Best Episode - 321
Ugly Betty was new and CBS ran a catchup episode of Survivor to try to attract new viewers.

I would need to see numbers but I bet the biggest hit Smallville has taken in the demos this year is females flocking over to Ugly Betty.

[monstra]

*sigh* I just wanna hear why you guys think this are good ratings, when you see SVL could be getting 5+ ratings like ANTM but it just doesnt, cuz everyones bored with the damn show.

And yeah.. 'Justice' ratings gimmick much? How can anyone be happy with all the guest stars this season? Tori Spelling? Bow Wow? what the heck

If SVL has the ratings it has now, its cuz of Green Arrow being around, imagine if they had kept Bart around in S4 or Cyborg around in S5, but they didnt have to back then cuz the writing was actually good.

The only episode thats been pimped with Clark or Lex (didnt see the trailers but heard) was Sneeze, and the ratings were horrendous.. why? because it didnt have some famous lame guest star to give them ratings.

[Timester]

Originally posted by monstra
And UB doesnt really take many SVL viewers, since its a show for females, and you guys have said it over and over again that the males are the ones that watch this show. Your words not mine.

Nor ours. :confused:

[monstra]

So it wasnt you (not you directly, I mean in general) that were saying SVL didnt get as good ratings last week like in past #4 episodes cuz Baseball was on? :rollseyes:

[Timester]

Originally posted by monstra
*sigh* I just wanna hear why you guys think this are good ratings, when you see SVL could be getting 5+ ratings like ANTM but it just doesnt, cuz everyones bored with the damn show.

Considering that Smallville is the 2nd/3rd most watched CW show, considering that CW lost some WB old markets AND considering that it did managed to survive "Reckoning", I think it is handling pretty good.

[monstra]

Smallville was the most watched WB show last year. It had over 5+ million viewers every week. And it still hasnt recovered from Reckoning, the writing still sucks, all the same things are happening, like I said before half the people that are still watching are doing it cuz of Green Arrow, and the lame guest stars.

[Timester]

Originally posted by monstra
So it wasnt you (not you directly, I mean in general) that were saying SVL didnt get as good ratings last week like in past #4 episodes cuz Baseball was on? :rollseyes:

Uh, no. Baseball, CW markets and the stories. And know what, Game Four of the World Series was yesterday at the same time. ;)


Originally posted by monstra
Smallville was the most watched WB show last year. It had over 5+ million viewers every week. And it still hasnt recovered from Reckoning, the writing still sucks, all the same things are happening, like I said before half the people that are still watching are doing it cuz of Green Arrow, and the lame guest stars.

Again wrong. Smallville was the 2nd/3rd most watched WB show last year. And it was WB, not CW, like you said.

[batfinx]

I think Smallville is the only show I've seen where some faction or other wants the show to fail because they're not getting what they personally want :lol:

[monstra]

And its been one of the lowest rated World Series ever.. but yeah..

And uh, what was the #1 show in the WB last year then? :confused:

[Timester]

Originally posted by monstra
And its been one of the lowest rated World Series ever.. but yeah..

And uh, what was the #1 show in the WB last year then? :confused:

7th Heaven/Gilmore Girls.

[monstra]

Really? Could you show me the numbers please?

[Timester]

Originally posted by monstra
Really? Could you show me the numbers please?

"111. 7th Heaven WB 5.2 1.9/5 (115) -2/n.c.
113. America's Next Top Model 5 UPN 5.0 2.4/7 (92) n.c./+4
113. America's Next Top Model 6 UPN 5.0 2.4/7 (92) -2/n.c.
115. Less Than Perfect ABC 4.9 1.9/5 (115) -21/-17
115. Sons & Daughters ABC 4.9 1.9/5 (115) N/A
117. Smallville WB 4.7 2.0/6 (110) +7/n.c.
118. Stacked Fox 4.6 2.1/6 (107) -54/-54
119. Gilmore Girls WB 4.5 2.0/5 (110) -6/-5"

http://www.tv.com/alias/show/3451/nielsen-ratings-for-2005-06-season-90/topic/2534-252664/msgs.html

[monstra]

Well I know the ratings in gral sucked, cuz post Reckoning the ratings were horrible, I kinda meant it was the most watched show when the show was good meaning pre-Reckoning. I could care less about it post-Reckoning.

But thanks anyway.

[luvallimak]

i heard some1 mention baseball...oh wait! and college football, hard to compete with die-hard sports fans, i dont see a problem with it.
and yes, a new network is gonna be hard to adjust..

[Dangerous George]

Originally posted by d.g225
its not about the ships. the writing is just plain bad the stroys suck and they have bow wow on next week !!!i mean come on!!! lex is not the dame victim cause mommy died and daddy dident love him! lex is a sociapatih!! in his mind it wasent his fault what happend to ducan it was olivers and his friends and his dad !!! im sorry but he is the bad guy!!! hell why dont they give him a red cape and change the name to lexville!!!


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: too funny :lol: :lol:

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Whether or not viewers think the ratings are good, The CW seems happy.


THE CW POSTS WEEK-TO-WEEK GAINS AGAINST THURSDAY COMPETITION, INCLUDING WORLD SERIES
Released by The CW
[NOTE: The following article is a press release issued by the aforementioned network and/or company. Any errors, typos, etc. are attributed to the original author. The release is reproduced solely for the dissemination of the enclosed information.]

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THE CW POSTS WEEK-TO-WEEK GAINS AGAINST THURSDAY COMPETITION, INCLUDING WORLD SERIES

"Smallville" Hits New Season Highs in Men Demos; Matches Season Bests in Adult 18-34 and 18-49

"Smallville" Second Only to World Series in Time Period Among Men 18-34

"Supernatural" Improves Over "Everwood" A Year Ago in Adults and Men Demos

October 27, 2006 (Burbank, CA) - Against Game 4 of the World Series and a mix of original and repeat competition, The CW scored week-to-week gains on Thursday, including 6% in viewers (4.2mil), 12% in adults 18-49 (1.9/5), 9% in men 18-34 (2.4/7), 18% in men 18-49 (2.0/6) and 6% in women 18-49 (1.8/5), according to preliminary live plus same day Nielsen ratings for Thursday, Oct. 26.

Despite facing the World Series, "Smallville" hit new season highs in men 18-34 (3.0/10) and men 18-49 (2.5/7) and matches its season best in adults 18-34 (2.5/8) and 18-49 (2.2/6). Compared to last week, "Smallville" climbed 4% in adults 18-34, 10% in adults 18-49, 15% in men 18-34 and 19% in men 18-49.

"Smallville" ranked second in the hour among men 18-34, behind only Fox.

"Supernatural" matched its season bests in adults 18-49 (1.7/4) and women 18-49 (1.8/5), and held 90% of "Smallville's" women 18-34 (1.8/5 v. 2.0/6) audience and 100% of its women 18-49 (1.8/4 v. 1.8/5) audience.

Compared to "Everwood" in the time period a year ago (10/27/05), "Supernatural" scored gains of 21% in adults 18-34 (1.7/4), 31% in adults 18-49 (1.7/4), 113% in men 18-34 (1.7/5), and 114% in men 18-49 (1.5/4).

The CW's Thursday line-up of "Smallville" and "Supernatural" is delivering considerable increases over UPN's Thursday night from a year ago, with increases of 50% in adults 18-34 (2.1/6), 36% in adults 18-49 (1.9/5), 140% in men 18-34 (2.4/7), 100% in men 18-49 (2.0/6) and 25% in viewers (4.2mil).

Versus The WB a year ago (10/27/05), The CW's Thursday is an improvement of 14% in men 18-34 and 11% in men 18-49, equaling its performance in adults 18-49.



Link To Press Release (http://www.thefutoncritic.com/news.aspx?id=20061027cw01)

[monstra]

The CW is always happy. They cant come out and say the shows arent doing as well as they thought can they? ;)

[Fly by guy]

^^^^
So it would seem that males 18-34 are all that matters to the network?
When a show drops over a million viewers fromthe first 4 episodes of season 5 compared to season 6, I would think that something is tremendously wrong. Of course, we know that since the CW is such a weak network they will not drop SV, but that doesn't mean the show isn't failing.
When an episode like THIRST can garner higher numbers than anything yet in season 6, it has to be more than sports competition or a new network. SV is close to having half the viewers it had in season 2. Viewers followed it from WED. to THUR. nite, so last season there was interest. Now it appears to be young males hoping to see evil Lex and Clark fly???? Oh, I forgot Chloe and Lois cleavage. That's okay, the writers have forgotten the OTHER demographics that used to enjoy the show. They're probably just killing time waiting for Grey's Anatomy on ABC at 9:00. Me, I just tape SV and watch ESPN football, right guys.

[ajfinn]

Notice, that the CW article doesn't compete Smallville against ITSELF, this time last year. Yes, they are pointing out the positive, comparing it against how each episode does in comparison to the rest of the previous in the season.

Against its historical ratings, Smallville isn't doing so hot. But for the CW to bring that to attention is bad press. They'd never do that, and I don't blame them :)

Smallville will stick around, however, if the advertisers are impressed with the numbers. Unless the cost to produce it (SV has to be the most expensive show they make, right?) doesn't keep raking in the cash to pay for itself.

[myankskent]

Originally posted by Timester
If Smallville manages to keep up the good stories and avoid the lame stuff, it might even get back to the 5.5 million. Although, I fear for some spoilers (for those that don't know and want to know, check the spoilers forum, I'm not going to spoil here). :\

I know what you are talking about, and it is coming up.

[Absolute Kingdom]

Originally posted by Timester
I'm going to start preaching "Good episode last week = ratings".

Actually I was thinking more like "Steven De Knight = ratings" :D

[STFanatic]

I fit in the 49 range, I guess next year I will have to quit watching :(

IMine is one of those non sports watching households.
I think the last sports type program I watched was a football game back in the late 70's.
Does "Too Tall Jones" still play?
;)

[Dangerous George]

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: not for some time now :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[MBCorp]

Originally posted by myankskent
I know what you are talking about, and it is coming up.

I do have to wonder about that plotline in regard to the ratings, it seems like something that would really turn people off of the show.

[STFanatic]

I am looking forward to it.

[Kal-ed]

Originally posted by monstra
The CW is always happy. They cant come out and say the shows arent doing as well as they thought can they? ;)

BUt they can how ever move the show to an easier time slot, or cancel it like runaway.

Networks cant afford to be proud and not recognize when a show is not doing good, if its not doing well they do something about it, whether its canceling it or changing it to a less competitive night, but they havent why, cause SV is doing good, I personaly missed the game (of course I have Tivo) but I was swithching between college footbal and the world series, I watched SV afterwards, cause if I do it the other way around and tape the games instead, its more factible to get really spoiled and find out the final score before watching the game, I rather watch a game live and watch SV afterwards, I would be surprisedmany men think like me.

[myankskent]

Originally posted by MBCorp
I do have to wonder about that plotline in regard to the ratings, it seems like something that would really turn people off of the show.

It's going to be interesting. For all of the bashing that I did of Smallville over the Summer, this show has been surprisingly good through the first five episodes. But it's the last 11 or so episodes that could ruin that, which is what happened last season. The storyline that you and I both know about could potentially overpower this show during the second half of the season. I hope it doesn't.

[rudyrusso]

even if the ratings are holding, it doesn't change the fact that I am fed up with this show. and I love it more than words on a message board or fansite can prove. seasons 5 and 6 are dogsh*t. they're irrelevant.

season 7 get here soon!

[Dangerous George]

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: soooo, tells us how you reaaalllly feel :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: now don't hold back, details, details :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[ShelbyKent]

Originally posted by ajfinn
Notice, that the CW article doesn't compete Smallville against ITSELF, this time last year. Yes, they are pointing out the positive, comparing it against how each episode does in comparison to the rest of the previous in the season.

Against its historical ratings, Smallville isn't doing so hot. But for the CW to bring that to attention is bad press. They'd never do that, and I don't blame them :)

Smallville will stick around, however, if the advertisers are impressed with the numbers. Unless the cost to produce it (SV has to be the most expensive show they make, right?) doesn't keep raking in the cash to pay for itself.

I think it makes sense for TPTB to compare Season 6 against itself, rather than comparing this season with last season same time last year. Why? Because last year, Smallville was on the WB. This year, Smallville is on the CW. As a product , Smallville on the CW is a completely different animal as compared to Smallville on the WB, from a business and marketing standpoint.

Before the merger of UPN & WB, UPN had its own set of affiliate TV stations while the WB had its own set of partner local stations.

After the merger, CW could not simply pick-up all the affiliates of both UPN & WB. Some affiliates operate in the same area . It doesn't make sense having 2 local stations broadcasting the same show at the same time.So, only one of these affiliates/media outlets (logically the stronger of the 2 stations) would be picked as a partner by the CW. In some cases, the CW would draw up a new contract with a completely new local station, one that was neither affiliated with the WB nor UPN.

Of course all this is a complicated process because it involves negotiating new business contracts (the lawyers on both sides are raking in the big bucks I'm sure!). I bet this complicated process is still ongoing. Meaning there are still some areas that cannot get the CW. The CW has not yet reached all its potential media outlets.

Think of the CW as like a shoe manufacturer, let's say Nike. Nike makes the shoes. But you the consumer, you don't buy your shoes directly from the Nike factory. You buy it from retailers like Macy's, Footlocker, or your local sporting goods store. The retailers are the equivalent of the CW's local stations/affiliates. It's the retailers that actually distribute the goods to the consumer.

Even if Nike makes the most awesome shoe in the world (say it's an all-in-one basketball, football, baseball & running shoe, plus in can do your homework!), that awesome shoe will not sell, if it's not on the shelf of the retailer. The shoe will not be bought if Macy's won't renew it's distribution contract with Nike, or if majority of the Footlocker stores went on strike. Nike still has an awesome shoe but the consumers can't get their hands on it.

CW is in the same boat as of the moment. Great show, great product. But there are some kinks in the distribution thru the media outlets. But that won't be permanent. It will be fixed as soon as the CW finishes all their negotiations with their affiliates.

The CW bigwigs consider all of the above when they look at Smallville's current ratings. And based on that article, TPTB are of the opinion that Smallville is holding strong, despite the fact that the CW is temporarily handicapped (in terms of affiliates and market reach). :)

[Dangerous George]

From what you've stated, it sounds more like a lack of proper preparation in the think tank department of CW. Timing is everything. The fact that they did not acquire the licenses or settle the contracts with their affiliates is assinine and wholly incompetent - who does their marketing for pity sake? Goodness - Smallville was a winning product or maybe still is. Therefore it is no excuse to fail to timely present one's product at the market place of TV land if you will. The prospectus should have been out there several years in the making - this is a marketing feature if you will. Point is, the contracts should have been nailed down in advance to the first airing of the season's premiere. To say or suggest that it was not timely nailed down prior to Zod's airing is more than likely due to incompetence. But I could be wrong. A good marketing team will get the job down no matter what. Ideas have a window of "sale time" and then it gone or too late.

If what you say is true, boy, that is not good. Goals and time-tables appear to not have been met, if in point of fact they even had any. :lol: :lol: which would be just about par for the course of this theme of late. unfortunately.

JMHO

peace

[escout]

Originally posted by Damali
From Mediaweek: (http://www.mediaweek.com/mw/newsletters/proginsider/index.jsp)

Can someone break this down for me and explain what it means. I get the 4.7 or so millon part, but what does the rest mean?

Thanks in advance!!:)

[Kreukie]

I'm confused about what K-Site posted on the main page of the site.

Even though it was up against Game Four of the World Series, Smallville moved up slightly in the overnight ratings over the previous week. Could that Sunday repeat earlier this week have snagged some viewers' interest?

How do they assume that when both The Office and My Name Is Earl were on repeat?

Duh Smallville did slightly better!

If The Office and My Name is Earl wasn't on repeat I can bet my left arm Smallville's numbers would had been, if not the same as last week or even lower!

I'm going with lower because of these numbers:

Arrow - 3.5/ 5; Viewers: #5, 4.65 million; A18-49: #5, 2.0/ 5
Reunion - 3.7/ 6; Viewers: 4.79 million; A18-49 2.2/ 6

That isn't a improvement people! Not when two top shows are on repeat!

So whoever did that write-up is spinning Smallville's numbers along side TheCW.

[joesmallville]

"The "Reunion" episode had season highs in men 18-34 and men 18-49 and matched its season best in adults 18-34 and 18-49. Compared to the previous week, Smallville climbed 4 percent in adults 18-34, 10 percent in adults 18-49, 15 percent in men 18-34 and 19 percent in men 18-49. "

Proves my point that females have left Smallville to watch Ugly Betty

[Dangerous George]

hmmmm

[ajfinn]

Originally posted by Kreukie
b][/i]

How do they assume that when both The Office and My Name Is Earl were on repeat?

That isn't a improvement people! Not when two top shows are on repeat!

So whoever did that write-up is spinning Smallville's numbers along side TheCW.

What makes it worse is that even the repeats of those shows, marketed to the same age group, still beat Smallville.

I about cried when I saw that The Office was a repeat :(

[monstra]

Oct.16 - Oct.22

America's Next Top Model 5.15
Gilmore Girls 4.85
Smallville 4.71
Friday Night Smackdown 4.67
Supernatural 3.29

Oct.23 - Oct.29

America's Next Top Model 5.45
Smallville 4.79
Gilmore Girls 4.73
Friday Night Smackdown 4.48
One Tree Hill 3.67
Supernatural 3.65

Source: abcmedia

final ratings

anyone else loves how high Supernatural numbers went w/o competition and SVLs ratings still couldnt get atleast 'Wither's ratings again? :lol:

PHILADELPHIA DAILY NEWS

"America's Next Top Model," the highest-rated show last season on UPN, averaged 5 million viewers in its fall 2005 cycle. This fall, as the highest-rated show on the CW, it's averaging 5.3 million.

Whoopee.

(To put this into perspective, NBC's likely-to-be-canceled "Twenty Good Years" is averaging 6 million viewers.)

"One Tree Hill," whose renewal raised some eyebrows last spring, is also up a bit from its WB days, with 3.26 million viewers, compared to the 2.8 million who watched last season.

"Smallville," which drew 4.652 million on the WB last season, is averaging 4.877 million this fall on the CW, which doesn't exactly equal leaping tall buildings in a single bound.

http://www.philly.com/mld/dailynews/living/15890540.htm

oh and note how the 4.65 its the average of the whole season, the 4.87 its just the average from the episodes so far, imagine how low the average will be by the end of the season

[Timester]

And?

[STFanatic]

I'll still do my part and watch.
IMO, a bad episode of Smallville is still better than no episode of Smallville.

[jack1487]

Originally posted by STFanatic
I fit in the 49 range, I guess next year I will have to quit watching :(

IMine is one of those non sports watching households.
I think the last sports type program I watched was a football game back in the late 70's.
Does "Too Tall Jones" still play?
;)

No don't quit watching I am 68 going on 69 soon, I guess that means I fall into the over hill group but most of all I like the how most of the shows move along the story. It doen't follow all of the Superman stuff but does a good job.

Jack

[bizzaroboy9]

this was the first episode of season 6 to recieve 5 million viewers?