View Full Version : Wasn't Clark supposed to discover feelings for Lois?
smallville86
10-20-2006, 01:41 AM
If you read the TV Guide interview for the green arrow, they make it sound like this was the episode where Clark was supposed to realize that he had feelings for Lois. The only thing that was remotely close to that was when Ollie accused him of masking feelings for Lois because he lived with her for that period of time. Both Clark and Lois were like WTF. There was no look on Clark's face of maybe...
Katarite
10-20-2006, 01:42 AM
I think it probably comes in a later episode :-P. If they weren't just throwing it out there.
Luthor5339
10-20-2006, 01:50 AM
Um, I kinda saw it.... watch Clark's and Arrow's first meeting together. There was alot of awkward moments in that scene, including Oliver picking up on and stating that Clark may have a thing for Lois but is covering it up with sarcasm. To me the look Clark gave wasn't a "no way" but trying to deny it- but, as a guy, I could see straight through that.
Even note Clark's initial reaction when he sees Oliver and Lois together.
fiorscal
10-20-2006, 01:51 AM
I don't think in a single episode Clark would be able to realize he has feelings for Lois. Let's face it, he IS kind of slow, lol. Besides, he just met the guy and hasn't even been able to see them together a lot. I think it would be unrealistic if suddenly he sees Lois with OG and says: "oh! I love her". It is good that they have aknowledged they are friends, and slowly Clark is gonna realize his feelings for Lois go deeper than he thought.
If not, we always have Oliver that said it very clearly to him:
"Don't worry Clark. If I had a beautiful woman living in my house, I'd use saracasm to hide my true feelings too." - Oliver Queen
:) :) :)
Kal-ed
10-20-2006, 02:26 AM
Yes they said that but spoilers are not always accurate and also maybe it happens latter on, if it is then Im glad, I like that he was concerned for her, with out it being romantic, I hope if he does develope feelings for her, they do it gradually and not a lightswitch kind of thing.
mayumi
10-20-2006, 03:07 AM
the episode was just good to watch especially since there weren't that many traiangles involved and it was all just light hearted. for now i think they should take it slow.
notice how oliver and lois have yet to kiss unlike aquaman.
InLove_with_Chloe
10-20-2006, 04:31 AM
IMO, Clark's first look when he saw Lois and Ollie was very similar to the one he gave to Chloe and Jimmy, at the DP. Many poeple saw jealousy ion that look, so we should be honest and apply that here too (although I didn't really see it...).
By the way, about that scene:
Why did Clark say:'...and you must be Oliver Queen...', when they got introduced?!?
I mean, Clark went to OQ's place to get the necklace. Who did he expect there - Santa Claus?!?
Some bad, bad writing today again...
Rose etta
10-20-2006, 04:33 AM
I remain truly impressed with the scene in question. Clark's look at Lois was just the faintest 'What are you doing with this guy?'-concern -- it was wonderfully subtle.
Then her look of response was so very subtle as well, just a slight 'Hey, it's my business'-look.
He was slightly pained and she was slightly uncomfortable. It was the first scene between them that actually had me grooving to their chemistry. (Usually teh writers have her be so hard-balling that she's repellent.)
InLove_with_Chloe
10-20-2006, 04:45 AM
Originally posted by Rose etta
I remain truly impressed with the scene in question. Clark's look at Lois was just the faintest 'What are you doing with this guy?'-concern -- it was wonderfully subtle.
Then her look of response was so very subtle as well, just a slight 'Hey, it's my business'-look.
He was slightly pained and she was slightly uncomfortable. It was the first scene between them that actually had me grooving to their chemistry. (Usually teh writers have her be so hard-balling that she's repellent.)
Yeah, I agree. It could have been a great scene. Unfortunately I found the first 20-30 minutes of 'arrow' horribly written, downright chaotic by times (see my last post). Kind of ruined it for me... And JH's acting, well...
thmallville
10-20-2006, 05:29 AM
Ew. Let's hope there's no mention of Clois until the very very very very last episode
smallvilleobsessor17
10-20-2006, 05:30 AM
Definitely.
InLove_with_Chloe
10-20-2006, 05:51 AM
Originally posted by thmallville
Ew. Let's hope there's no mention of Clois until the very very very very last episode
Now there's a petition I'll happily sign...
THE ANGEL Of Forgivens
10-20-2006, 06:05 AM
These epsiode had everything Good wirting good fighting now if only clark and lex were Gone it would be better
Rhoda123
10-20-2006, 06:46 AM
Originally posted by thmallville
Ew. Let's hope there's no mention of Clois until the very very very very last episode
You got me saying AMEN!!!
jimmyolsenblues
10-20-2006, 06:49 AM
Patience young grass hopper Patience.
InLove_with_Chloe
10-20-2006, 06:50 AM
Originally posted by jimmyolsenblues
Patience young grass hopper Patience.
Said who?
The frog?
:)
Nightingale20
10-20-2006, 08:16 AM
As much as I'm a Cloiser, I didn't see any jealousy on Clark's part. To me it was the same with Clark's Chloe and Jimmy reaction. The only thing alluding to it was Oliver's comment on masking feelings with sarcasm. I notice this season (so far) though that Clark is the one throwing out sarcastic/snarky comments more so then Lois.
I was puzzled when Lois was referred as one of Clark's best friends. Since when were they best friends? Wonder if I missed something...
jimmyolsenblues
10-20-2006, 08:26 AM
Said who?
The frog?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kung_Fu_%28TV_series%29
The nickname given to Caine by Master Po while at the monastery, Grasshopper, would become a pop culture reference
Damali
10-20-2006, 08:27 AM
Originally posted by smallville86
If you read the TV Guide interview for the green arrow, they make it sound like this was the episode where Clark was supposed to realize that he had feelings for Lois. The only thing that was remotely close to that was when Ollie accused him of masking feelings for Lois because he lived with her for that period of time. Both Clark and Lois were like WTF. There was no look on Clark's face of maybe...
I think the line about, masking your feelings with sarcasm, is suppose to make Clark, start to wonder. However on a sidenote, I do think it was interesting that Lois views Clark as a geek and that's how she described him to Ollie.
D.M.A.
10-20-2006, 09:01 AM
Originally posted by Kal-ed
Yes they said that but spoilers are not always accurate and also maybe it happens latter on, if it is then Im glad, I like that he was concerned for her, with out it being romantic, I hope if he does develope feelings for her, they do it gradually and not a lightswitch kind of thing.
agree so far the spoilers r changin sum,not so accurate so maybe it comes later.But it was obvious that it wasn't last night,which was good it was more about Ga intro and his first meetin wit clark.Not the triangle,the remarks early in the show didn't catch me as jealousy because of what oliver almost stated.When he almost slipped and spoke on what lois really feels about clark that's when clark made the remarks.If the scene was awkward I think it was more for lois than anyone,but I agree here if tptb r goin to buildup feelings let it take sum time.Cause last night was good the way it was without it imo
Now if only clark can continue to do that wit another female character I'd be jus as happy :D but that's another story tho
Originally posted by Damali
I think the line about, masking your feelings with sarcasm, is suppose to make Clark, start to wonder. However on a sidenote, I do think it was interesting that Lois views Clark as a geek and that's how she described him to Ollie.
her comments to oliver suprise me cause imo clark doesn't resemble a geek at all,atleast not sv version.But I wasn't suprise on her take of clark tho,oliver comments imo were more about him lettin on about his feelings then clark's.That's why he said he would mask those feelings too if he stayed wit her,but clark reaction didn't catch.So I'm guessin tptb r goin to take that triangle alil slower than the rest,but we'll see
Originally posted by Nightingale20
As much as I'm a Cloiser, I didn't see any jealousy on Clark's part. To me it was the same with Clark's Chloe and Jimmy reaction. The only thing alluding to it was Oliver's comment on masking feelings with sarcasm. I notice this season (so far) though that Clark is the one throwing out sarcastic/snarky comments more so then Lois.
I was puzzled when Lois was referred as one of Clark's best friends. Since when were they best friends? Wonder if I missed something...
I agree with you -- I didn't see jealousy on Clark's part. If anything I saw jealousy on Oliver's part. (Similar to how Lex was mad that Clark was the 3rd person his relationship with Lana & how Jimmy called himself 'James' right after he met Clark.) It seems like the running theme is that all these guys look at Clark & wonder how their girlfriends can't be in love with the guy. And Clark's like, "leave me alone. I just want to be with my ball!!" :lol:
Personally, I loved it, though. I loved how it played. She calls him "Smallville" and Oliver's eyeing him and going, "Smallville? You're Clark Kent? From the way Lois was describing you..."
I love how Lois very clearly doesn't want Oliver to finish that thought, but Clark figures it out anyway. He kind of looks hurt that Lois referred to him as a geek, not realizing that it's interesting enough that Lois talked about him at all. And she must be talking about him a lot, because Oliver mentions that Clark is one of her best friends twice. So Lois must be telling Oliver something that would lead Oliver to (1) be jealous as soon as he see what Clark really looks like and (2) comment on how Clark is being hypocrite b/c he's not telling Lois who he is, either.
Personally, I'm glad that Clark didn't immediately get jealous of Lollie. It would have been highly unrealistic for it to happen that way. They should take the time to develop his feelings for her.
D.M.A.
10-20-2006, 09:19 AM
Originally posted by eas
I agree with you -- I didn't see jealousy on Clark's part. If anything I saw jealousy on Oliver's part. (Similar to how Lex was mad that Clark was the 3rd person his relationship with Lana & how Jimmy called himself 'James' right after he met Clark.) It seems like the running theme is that all these guys look at Clark & wonder how their girlfriends can't be in love with the guy. And Clark's like, "leave me alone. I just want to be with my ball!!" :lol:
Personally, I loved it, though. I loved how it played. She calls him "Smallville" and Oliver's eyeing him and going, "Smallville? You're Clark Kent? From the way Lois was describing you..."
I love how Lois very clearly doesn't want Oliver to finish that thought, but Clark figures it out anyway. He kind of looks hurt that Lois referred to him as a geek, not realizing that it's interesting enough that Lois talked about him at all. And she must be talking about him a lot, because Oliver mentions that Clark is one of her best friends twice. So Lois must be telling Oliver something that would lead Oliver to (1) be jealous as soon as he see what Clark really looks like and (2) comment on how Clark is being hypocrite b/c he's not telling Lois who he is, either.
Personally, I'm glad that Clark didn't immediately get jealous of Lollie. It would have been highly unrealistic for it to happen that way. They should take the time to develop his feelings for her.
I agree,oliver comments were more like he didn't expect clark to look the way he did.He was expectin sum lil farmboy lookin guy or an actual lookin geek,but clark was a suprise to him.But ur right so far all the guys datin the girls seem to initate the tension between them and clark over the girls.Guessin they feel intimidated to a degree,yet clark feels lonely cause all of his friends r involved wit sumone.But I agree here it was good they didn't rush things and hopefully continue to build slow.So far I'm likin the lollie relationship and thought it was cool she called him ollie at the talon,shows they r gettin close.The episode as awhole was a good intro for Ga,and lollie relationship much better than wither.
WhiteMage
10-20-2006, 09:26 AM
Great way of putting it, eas! I agree!
And I'm glad Lois describes Clark as a geek. It's foreshadowing for his DP future. Also, this season, Clark should be developing his feelings for Lois, and not really the other way around. Lois doesn't fall in love with Clark for a VERY long time, rather, she loves Superman first. Clark, however, loves her from the moment he meets her. Of course, this doesn't apply in Smallville, because Lois lives with Clark and in the Superman universe he wasn't supposed to meet her until DP, so now I think Clark's budding feelings should be taken slowly. Maybe as he sees Lois slowly transform into the woman she was meant to become, then he'll come to terms with his feelings for her.
SmallvilleGirlC
10-20-2006, 09:26 AM
Originally posted by eas
Personally, I loved it, though. I loved how it played. She calls him "Smallville" and Oliver's eyeing him and going, "Smallville? You're Clark Kent? From the way Lois was describing you..."
I love how Lois very clearly doesn't want Oliver to finish that thought, but Clark figures it out anyway. He kind of looks hurt that Lois referred to him as a geek, not realizing that it's interesting enough that Lois talked about him at all. And she must be talking about him a lot, because Oliver mentions that Clark is one of her best friends twice. So Lois must be telling Oliver something that would lead Oliver to (1) be jealous as soon as he see what Clark really looks like and (2) comment on how Clark is being hypocrite b/c he's not telling Lois who he is, either.
Personally, I'm glad that Clark didn't immediately get jealous of Lollie. It would have been highly unrealistic for it to happen that way. They should take the time to develop his feelings for her.
Definately I give that a double AMEN!! I LOVED the way they have this Clois/Lollie Triangle going...
Don't worry Clark. If I had a beautiful woman living in my house, I'd use saracasm to hide my true feelings too." - Oliver Queen
Hilarious!!!
:rotfl: :rotfl:
AlwaysAround
10-20-2006, 09:41 AM
Originally posted by SmallvilleGirlC
Definately I give that a double AMEN!! I LOVED the way they have this Clois/Lollie Triangle going...
Don't worry Clark. If I had a beautiful woman living in my house, I'd use saracasm to hide my true feelings too." - Oliver Queen
Hilarious!!!
:rotfl: :rotfl:
You know I'm not crazy about GA but even I had to say . . .
. . . gee . . . he certainly hit the bullseye dead center with that comment! He certainly is very perceptive. I have to give him that.
Clark and Lois were great in this episode. Their reactions and interaction was good. Clark did seem a little cold towards Lois though after GA mentioned how Lois talked down about him. He seemed just a little hurt by it. I have to say (and this is coming from someone who can't stand the character or his entrance into the show)I really enjoyed these scenes mainly because Lois was so good at giving to GA as good as she was getting. The interaction was good. I like that Lois hasn't fallen head over heels at the drop of a hat for this guy (like she does eventually for Superman). He's having to earn it.
See . . . even those of us that dislike GA are finding some fun in the interaction. As long as they continue to forshadow Clois, I guess it's ok for GA to stay for a little while. The five episodes he has left is about right. I'll have had my fill of him by then.;)
Nerial
10-20-2006, 09:55 AM
Originally posted by Damali
I think the line about, masking your feelings with sarcasm, is suppose to make Clark, start to wonder. However on a sidenote, I do think it was interesting that Lois views Clark as a geek and that's how she described him to Ollie.
Completely agree on both counts. I don't want Clark to magically fall in love with Lois in one episode. It's a slow process, especially for him because, let's face it, the boy is a little clueless when it comes to love.
And, Lois viewing Clark as a nerd? Perfect! Just because he doesn't wear glasses (well, not yet), and have an over-bite doesn't mean he doesn't qualify. He doesn't party, he's introverted and shy, and plaid has never been a trend-setter.
jmf1977
10-20-2006, 10:25 AM
The way this season is going, Clark will never fall for Lois until Chloe thinks of the idea first!!!
Naomi
10-20-2006, 11:00 AM
Originally posted by thmallville
Ew. Let's hope there's no mention of Clois until the very very very very last episode
Definitely!
RamonaE
10-20-2006, 11:03 AM
Originally posted by smallville86
If you read the TV Guide interview for the green arrow, they make it sound like this was the episode where Clark was supposed to realize that he had feelings for Lois. The only thing that was remotely close to that was when Ollie accused him of masking feelings for Lois because he lived with her for that period of time. Both Clark and Lois were like WTF. There was no look on Clark's face of maybe...
I totally agree...but I bet those people actually never watch the show. They probably watch a few clips and then proceed to write their arcticle. Or perhaps they actually believe what Al/Miles tell them. That'd be a mistake.
Krypton935
10-20-2006, 11:28 AM
Originally posted by thmallville
Ew. Let's hope there's no mention of Clois until the very very very very last episode
Agreed. That would make the show way too akward and tense. besides to do a comlete 360 would be crazy. Right now they can't stand each other and to have them start liking one another wouldn't go right.
ajfinn
10-20-2006, 11:31 AM
He seemed like he would've been a lot more concerned if he was looking for his wallet than looking for Lois when she went missing.
He picked up the phone, he said something like, "looks like someone took her" with no worry whatsoever in his voice, imo. Then when he suspected that it was the Green Arrow, got the scan from Chloe, KNEW it was Oliver ..... he went to Ollie's house rather than follow him. It just made no sense.
FAR from having feelings for Lois. When Chloe or Lana go missing he gets all intense and concerned.
mayumi
10-20-2006, 12:40 PM
Lois had once said in the last season "give me a geek with glasses anyday"
so i guess clark being viewed as a geek isn't so bad for him after all :P
Kal-ed
10-20-2006, 01:12 PM
Originally posted by ajfinn
He seemed like he would've been a lot more concerned if he was looking for his wallet than looking for Lois when she went missing.
He picked up the phone, he said something like, "looks like someone took her" with no worry whatsoever in his voice, imo. Then when he suspected that it was the Green Arrow, got the scan from Chloe, KNEW it was Oliver ..... he went to Ollie's house rather than follow him. It just made no sense.
FAR from having feelings for Lois. When Chloe or Lana go missing he gets all intense and concerned.
The situation didnt merit for bug concer, I have never seen Clark as desperate looking for someone than when he pulled the stunning tail back from Recruit and screamed at him, or how about pulling a choper down just to get her.
Im not saying he loves Lois but he does care for her, that is a fact.
margroks
10-20-2006, 01:21 PM
That's just more nonsense. Clark has no feelings for this annoying girl that we have ever seen and why would he? She obviously diddes him behind his back and treats him with disrespect constantly. She is thoroughly obnoxious and the producers are just trying to shove her awful self down our throats with stuff like this. They think if they say it enough times we'll believe it or accept it. Not me.
Kal-ed
10-20-2006, 01:27 PM
Originally posted by eas
Iinteresting enough that Lois talked about him at all. And she must be talking about him a lot, because Oliver mentions that Clark is one of her best friends twice. So Lois must be telling Oliver something that would lead Oliver to (1) be jealous as soon as he see what Clark really looks like and (2) comment on how Clark is being hypocrite b/c he's not telling Lois who he is, either.
Funny she keeps bringing Clark up when he is not around and I guess they could be considered good friends, and since Lois doesnt have many he could be cataloged as one of her best friends
And I think the fact that she described him so geeky, could be so that there was no issues with Ollie about Clark. Its like when a new work collegue is hot and the wife asks about how does the new collegue look like and you just say:" Ah nothing special, she looks so so". What was Lois suposed to say:
Lois(babling like a giddy schoolgirl):He has saved my life in more than one ocation, he acts like a hero and shows up where ever ther is fuzz to help out. He was almost drafted as Quarterback for the Met U bulldogs with Full scolarship. And Ollie... The best part about it all, we have seen each other Naked, you have no idea how buffed Clark is, and his abs!! OMG Olllie, his pecks!! (bites her bottom lip and blushes at the thought of Clark Jr. but decides against sharing that thought with Ollie)
Polomontana
10-20-2006, 01:36 PM
Clark and Lois have no chemistry together. The writers no it and that's why they have not brought them together in any way, shape or form. They have basically written Lois as a one dimensional character.
I will give the writers a bit of advice even though I don't like the Lois character. They can add an extra dimension to Lois with one line. When Lois and Green Arrow's relationship comes to an end the conversation should go like this:
Lois and Clark are sitting in the barn.
Lois:
You know Clark, I really liked Oliver because he was with me for who Iam and not just the way I look.
Clark:
Don't be so sad Lois, I'm sure there's guys out there who can't wait to meet someone like you.
Lois:
That's not the point. I may act tough Clark but sometimes the girl in me just wants to be held and made to feel special.
Lois gets up and heads down the steps. She stops and looks back at Clark.
Lois:
You better enjoy this moment Smallville, because I only act this way once a year.
Lois exits.
Clark and Martha are in the kitchen.
Clark:
You know ma, I saw something in Lois that I didn't think was there.
Martha:
Was it something bad?
Clark:
No, I actually kind of liked it.
I just threw this together but you get the idea. This way you add another dimension to the one-dimensional Lois character that Clark can begin to explore.
neildingley
10-20-2006, 01:54 PM
Originally posted by Luthor5339
Um, I kinda saw it.... watch Clark's and Arrow's first meeting together. There was alot of awkward moments in that scene, including Oliver picking up on and stating that Clark may have a thing for Lois but is covering it up with sarcasm. To me the look Clark gave wasn't a "no way" but trying to deny it- but, as a guy, I could see straight through that.
Even note Clark's initial reaction when he sees Oliver and Lois together.
Was it just me or was it Lois who responeded mose defensively to Oliver statement about masking felling with sarcasm. I wonder if Clark picked up on that?
Nightingale20
10-20-2006, 02:50 PM
Originally posted by eas
I agree with you -- I didn't see jealousy on Clark's part. If anything I saw jealousy on Oliver's part. (Similar to how Lex was mad that Clark was the 3rd person his relationship with Lana & how Jimmy called himself 'James' right after he met Clark.) It seems like the running theme is that all these guys look at Clark & wonder how their girlfriends can't be in love with the guy. And Clark's like, "leave me alone. I just want to be with my ball!!" :lol:
Personally, I loved it, though. I loved how it played. She calls him "Smallville" and Oliver's eyeing him and going, "Smallville? You're Clark Kent? From the way Lois was describing you..."
I love how Lois very clearly doesn't want Oliver to finish that thought, but Clark figures it out anyway. He kind of looks hurt that Lois referred to him as a geek, not realizing that it's interesting enough that Lois talked about him at all. And she must be talking about him a lot, because Oliver mentions that Clark is one of her best friends twice. So Lois must be telling Oliver something that would lead Oliver to (1) be jealous as soon as he see what Clark really looks like and (2) comment on how Clark is being hypocrite b/c he's not telling Lois who he is, either.
Personally, I'm glad that Clark didn't immediately get jealous of Lollie. It would have been highly unrealistic for it to happen that way. They should take the time to develop his feelings for her.
Nice observations. :) Didn't catch the same Oliver and Jimmy reactions. I was surprised by the best friend comment, because Clark referred to Lois as one of his best friends in "Exposed" and I thought it was a mistake on the writers part when I saw it but they brought it back again in this episode. Who knew it would actually have some continuity. :lol:
Oliver did seem to know about Lois quite a bit too. That quote about the tomb raider imitation being a way to catch daddy's attention was interesting. Unless she herself opened up about that.
I'm glad that they are taking it slow and laying the ground work as well.
clarkandlana2
10-20-2006, 02:54 PM
God, I hope he doesnt start to have 'feelings' for her. Plus, the ban on Clois has not been lifted. It aint gonna happen. ;)
GabbieW
10-21-2006, 01:24 AM
Originally posted by ajfinn
He seemed like he would've been a lot more concerned if he was looking for his wallet than looking for Lois when she went missing.
He picked up the phone, he said something like, "looks like someone took her" with no worry whatsoever in his voice, imo. Then when he suspected that it was the Green Arrow, got the scan from Chloe, KNEW it was Oliver ..... he went to Ollie's house rather than follow him. It just made no sense.
FAR from having feelings for Lois. When Chloe or Lana go missing he gets all intense and concerned.
I agree!! he didn`t show any worry for her disappearence and btw in my opinion i didn`t see any chemistry between Clark and Lois... actually i haven`t seen it!!!;)
InLove_with_Chloe
10-21-2006, 01:36 AM
Originally posted by margroks
That's just more nonsense. Clark has no feelings for this annoying girl that we have ever seen and why would he? She obviously diddes him behind his back and treats him with disrespect constantly. She is thoroughly obnoxious and the producers are just trying to shove her awful self down our throats with stuff like this. They think if they say it enough times we'll believe it or accept it. Not me.
Well said, margroks.
I didn't dare to be so blunt... I agree that the way they presented Lois in 'arrow' was kinda like hypnosis, or the poor attempt of mind control: they seem to think that simply by dangling the 'carrot' Lois in front our noses for long enough, we (and Clark) will run after her. Meanwhile, they forget to repair the obvious weaknesses of her character (while they introduce new weaknesses into other characters, I have to say to be fair...).
It's the old Jedi trick:'...this is the girl you are looking for.'
Autumn
10-21-2006, 02:01 AM
Originally posted by Nightingale20
As much as I'm a Cloiser, I didn't see any jealousy on Clark's part. To me it was the same with Clark's Chloe and Jimmy reaction. The only thing alluding to it was Oliver's comment on masking feelings with sarcasm. I notice this season (so far) though that Clark is the one throwing out sarcastic/snarky comments more so then Lois.
I was puzzled when Lois was referred as one of Clark's best friends. Since when were they best friends? Wonder if I missed something...
I agree with you. But, I think it all comes down to actor's interpretation. The way the lines were written, Tom Welling could have interpreted it as being jealous. But for some reason he didn't. His facial expressions seemed almost more protective, than jealous. They reminded me of the scenes in Lexmas when he showed no jealousy over Lana when Lex was with her. Tom Welling always has very distinct jealousy expressions. We've seen them numerously when it comes to Lana. And a few times with Chloe. I have yet to have seen those expressions when it comes to Lois. That doesn't mean it won't happen in the future though. :)
I do think there was jealousy on Clark's part, relating to the Chloe and Jimmy relationship though. I did notice a couple of jealous expressions, but they were a little more subtle than when he's pining over Lana. (Maybe he doesn't really see Jimmy as a threat in the long run) But again, I think it comes down to Tom's interpretation of the scenes. Listening to Allison Mack's interview, it seems clear to me that the two actors play their scenes off as loving each other, but never wanting to take that risk because it might ruin their friendship. This is clear to me from both of their interpretations. Tom Welling has always tried to add in little moments here and there of Chloe and Clark. IE: Spell. Plus, AM did also say that Clark is thrown for a bit of a loop with Jimmy because Clark's always used to having Chloe in his back pocket. I think that this is very apparent in the Chloe/Clark/Jimmy scenes.
Again, trying to come from an objective perspective, I think the writers wrote the scene with Lois, Oliver and Clark to show jealousy. Hence the TV Guide article. (So, if you're a Cloiser you have great reason to rejoice!) But with the actor's interpretation of the lines, it just didn't come across. But maybe in the next few episodes, it will start to become more apparent. Perhaps, TW did not want to light switch his character to suddenly being in love with Lois. I think he probably wants it to be a little more gradual. And I think that's the way it should be.
I also agree that it was a little strange that the writers seemed to imply that Lois and Clark were best friends. Since when? But at least that scene wasn't painful like the Harley scene in the loft. I usually like Lois, but when I watched the Harley scene I almost felt myself missing Clark and Lana loft scenes. Note, that I said almost. :)
Deana
10-21-2006, 04:06 AM
Originally posted by eas
I agree with you -- I didn't see jealousy on Clark's part. If anything I saw jealousy on Oliver's part. (Similar to how Lex was mad that Clark was the 3rd person his relationship with Lana & how Jimmy called himself 'James' right after he met Clark.) It seems like the running theme is that all these guys look at Clark & wonder how their girlfriends can't be in love with the guy. And Clark's like, "leave me alone. I just want to be with my ball!!" :lol:
Personally, I loved it, though. I loved how it played. She calls him "Smallville" and Oliver's eyeing him and going, "Smallville? You're Clark Kent? From the way Lois was describing you..."
I love how Lois very clearly doesn't want Oliver to finish that thought, but Clark figures it out anyway. He kind of looks hurt that Lois referred to him as a geek, not realizing that it's interesting enough that Lois talked about him at all. And she must be talking about him a lot, because Oliver mentions that Clark is one of her best friends twice. So Lois must be telling Oliver something that would lead Oliver to (1) be jealous as soon as he see what Clark really looks like and (2) comment on how Clark is being hypocrite b/c he's not telling Lois who he is, either.
Personally, I'm glad that Clark didn't immediately get jealous of Lollie. It would have been highly unrealistic for it to happen that way. They should take the time to develop his feelings for her.
Oh, I agree. Nice post! :D
Originally posted by InLove_with_Chloe
Well said, margroks.
I didn't dare to be so blunt... I agree that the way they presented Lois in 'arrow' was kinda like hypnosis, or the poor attempt of mind control: they seem to think that simply by dangling the 'carrot' Lois in front our noses for long enough, we (and Clark) will run after her. Meanwhile, they forget to repair the obvious weaknesses of her character (while they introduce new weaknesses into other characters, I have to say to be fair...).
It's the old Jedi trick:'...this is the girl you are looking for.'
I don't think they expect all the viewers to run after her. I (as a viewer) sat through 5 painful seasons of Clana, never once thinking that Lana was right for Clark. Maybe they'll take the Chlark direction in season 6, but I'll never think it's the right ship. TPTB are fully aware that not all viewers are going to be onboard with all the ships. So this scene has nothing to do with them trying to "convert" everyone to Clois.
The fact of the matter is that Clark Kent ends up with Lois Lane in the long term. He ends up marrying her -- she may be annoying, they may snipe at each other, they may not have any feelings for each other yet -- but in the future they're married. That's just the way it is. It can't go any other way.
And while Lois may have weaknesses in her character, all of the characters do. So does Chloe, Clark, Lex, Lana, Martha, etc. So there's no reason for them to go, "well, we can't have Clark with LOIS. She's not perfect. Chloe, on the other hand? We've written her with no flaws at all, so let's go for it." :rolleyes:
Originally posted by margroks
That's just more nonsense. Clark has no feelings for this annoying girl that we have ever seen and why would he? She obviously diddes him behind his back and treats him with disrespect constantly. She is thoroughly obnoxious and the producers are just trying to shove her awful self down our throats with stuff like this. They think if they say it enough times we'll believe it or accept it. Not me.
You don't have to believe it or accept it. I never believed or accepted Clana. Nor will I ever believe or accept Chlark. The writers aren't putting together the show just for one segment of the audience -- and Chlarkers are just one segment of the audience.
And Lois never dissed Clark behind his back. It's actually quite interesting that she never has -- only Clark & Chloe do that to her. In fact, she's only ever said nice things about Clark behind his back. Like her talk with Lana in "Reckoning": "I'd be lucky if I ended up with a guy as honorable as Clark one day...."
Yup, can't get more obnoxious than that. What was Lois thinking, complimenting Clark like that? What a horrible person.
All about Clark
10-21-2006, 10:51 AM
Well, indicating to Ollie that Clark was a geek wasn't exactly nice of her to do behind his back, so I don't agree with eas.
I did think Ollie was the jealous one in that trio and Clark was the jealous one in the Chloe/Jimmy trio. I just think they will work Clark and Lois at a slower pace.
BadToad
10-21-2006, 11:46 AM
And Lois never dissed Clark behind his back. It's actually quite interesting that she never has -- only Clark & Chloe do that to her. In fact, she's only ever said nice things about Clark behind his back.
Yes she has. Check out the scene in "Exposed" between Chloe and Lois, where Lois refers to him as "Richie Cunningham" and mentions how she can't believe Chloe had a thing for him. In "Spirit" she tells Chloe that Clark can't keep up with her, and when Chloe says there is more to him, she dismisses it. And apparently she mentioned him to Ollie is a less then accurate and complimentary way.
InLove_with_Chloe
10-21-2006, 11:57 AM
Originally posted by eas
And while Lois may have weaknesses in her character, all of the characters do. So does Chloe, Clark, Lex, Lana, Martha, etc. So there's no reason for them to go, "well, we can't have Clark with LOIS. She's not perfect. Chloe, on the other hand? We've written her with no flaws at all, so let's go for it." :rolleyes:
Totally agree with you.
It is sad that they turned Chloe into the flawless hacker-queen after she found out Clark's secret. That was one of the 'newly introduced weaknesses' I was hinting at before. Of course Clark will end up with Lois, none of the 'realistic Chlarkers', like me, would ever deny that, or have any problems with. For us, Chlark would just be a transient thing we could enjoy for a few episodes. Chloe's shot at something she worked for very hard, and that she deserves - and Clark, well he would at least have had one girlfriend he doesn't have to constantly lie to...
In the end, I guess what bothers me the most about Lois is the fact that I think that ED is a poor actress. I simply don't believe anything she is showing us. Including feelings...
I mean, I loved Teri Hatcher, I really did.
Kal-ed
10-21-2006, 02:20 PM
Originally posted by clarkandlana2
God, I hope he doesnt start to have 'feelings' for her. Plus, the ban on Clois has not been lifted. It aint gonna happen. ;)
Aparently the restrictions ARE over since the movie is out, but if there not the restrictions are about romance, kissing, etc. THey cant even kiss in a dream sequence or a possesion kiss, but it doesnt include feelings. They can have both of them being Madly, insanely in love with eachother as long as they are not dating is all good.
And I dont care that lois badmouths Clark behind his back, I like the fact that she talks about him when he´s not around, and to be honest what she has said is not that big of a deal, hey I have dissed decent people just to make someone else feel better, when a girl breaks up with a friend of mine i always say stuff like: "ah she wasnt worth it" or " cmon you could do better than that airhead" even if its not true, called white lies and thats what she does when she says those things to Chloe, but as we have heard from her mouth "she would be lucky to have someone as honorable as Clark".
Besides I dont know how bad calling Clark a "geek" is, I mean didnt she say "Give me a nerd with glasses any day of the week" and in my thesaurus geek and nerd are sinonims, side note on the thesaurus one side conotation of geek could be loner (Clark), i dont think Lois meant it like that , she meant the coloquial definition we know, but just thouth it was curious tho.
AlwaysAround
10-21-2006, 04:09 PM
Originally posted by InLove_with_Chloe
In the end, I guess what bothers me the most about Lois is the fact that I think that ED is a poor actress. I simply don't believe anything she is showing us. Including feelings...
I mean, I loved Teri Hatcher, I really did.
That just goes with personal taste. Some like chocolate and some don't so I can't really argue with you on that. I thank you for being respectfull of the actress though and for the fans that do like her (like myself). If you just don't have a taste for something it doesn't mean it really is bad, it just means you think it's bad.
Personally I think Erica is great as Lois Lane. I have seen her acting in other shows and I have to say that I like her acting as a whole. I don't think she is a poor actress at all. She is very enjoyable to watch as Lois and her and Clarks scenes together are the main reason I tune in every week. She does a good job, it's just that she is also very beautiful and has a great body and directors often try to play that part of her up more than her acting skill. I can't help but smile every time I watch her and when she is on screen with Tom is when she really shines!
People all have their favorite actors and who they thought was the best. Some think Brandon Routh is the best Superman so far (some say he's even better than Chris Reeve) personally my favorite has always been George Reeves but many people on these boards probably barely know who he is. The same goes for Lois. Some outright hate Margot Kidder but I though she was a great Lois Lane and I though Teri Hatcher's Lois was good but way too abrasive, especially in the first two seasons. So far I absolutely love Erica Durance and the way she is playing Lois as a woman that can take care of herself but at the same time is very vulnerable and keeps that wall of protectiveness up a lot. I like to see her scenes with Clark, when she lets that wall down. I love the personality and spunk that she has brought to the character. Erica is my favorite Lois Lane. I even got to meet and talk to her, face to face, a few times at AdventureCon 2006. I also was able to get an excellent photo of us together.
Christine C
10-21-2006, 04:14 PM
Yes, there was nothing, and interestingly enough, Clark showed how much he was not in Lois's camp when he approached Chloe at the DP and saw how Lois was doing the story about the Arrow and not her. He seemed surprised, and was like your letting Lois get the story over you?
All about Clark
10-21-2006, 07:25 PM
Yea, but his smile was great when he realized that was his old Chloe not telling Lois about the computer enhancing the image.
Nightingale20
10-21-2006, 08:20 PM
Originally posted by BadToad
Yes she has. Check out the scene in "Exposed" between Chloe and Lois, where Lois refers to him as "Richie Cunningham" and mentions how she can't believe Chloe had a thing for him. In "Spirit" she tells Chloe that Clark can't keep up with her, and when Chloe says there is more to him, she dismisses it. And apparently she mentioned him to Ollie is a less then accurate and complimentary way.
Well, hasn't Clark done the same? In "Exposed" he talked about doing anything to get rid of Lois to Jonathan, in "Aqua" he talked about smothering Lois with a pillow when she was out of earshot and those are the ones at the top of my head. And in Arrow he did make a comment about someone who’s willing to overlook her personality to Oliver. They seem to talk about each other quite a bit.
I think they both do it but for some reason Clark gets off scotch-free.
Farm_Girl
10-21-2006, 09:18 PM
When the TV Guide Al Gough interview came out, the only thing I was apprehensive was that they’ll ruin everything if they suddenly show a jealous Clark but I was surprised to see it was totally the other way round. Oliver was more intimidated which is how it should be, Clark is the hero, not Oliver. I absolutely enjoyed the Clark/Oliver/Lois scene.
- Oliver’ line: “Smallville.. you’re Clark Kent?” was hilarious, his expression of total surprise and almost shock was very interesting. The “geek” is actually very, very hot!!
- Lois talks about Clark a lot to Oliver and refers to him as “Smallville”! And now Ollie has seen “Smallville” and he knows that Lois didn’t live under one roof for two years with a nerd, Clark is a real actual threat to his relationship.
- When Clark says “A geek” he looks at Lois not at Oliver, which means he asks for her confirmation of what she thinks of him as. From bickering teenagers to mature young friends, their relationship shows progress with just this moment.
- Oliver’s priceless line that actually sets this triangle in motion is the one he says about masking feelings in sarcasm. Lois and Clark both used the word “feeling” and they were like, “oh someone has misunderstood us badly,” they don’t know themselves how they feel about each other!
- Lois’s comment “marking the territory” and “play nice” all suggest where the writers are taking it.
We have seen Clark jealous over Lois in Aqua and Fade, but they were more of “concerns about her safety”, he hasn’t ever been actually jealous of a Lois boyfriend because he loves Lois. So naturally, it couldn’t have come out of the blue. But this scene had a lot of depth and the dialogues and expressions showed a lot.
DC weren’t apprehensive of bringing Lois to the show for nothing. They didn’t want the iconic romance that leads to their marriage to be dealt lightly like any other romance on the show. I guess this is the reason DC imposed restrictions on their romantic relationship and kissing etc. If writers want to go their now, they will have to take it very slowly. Lois/Clark relationship is too big a thing to ruin.
SteveS
10-21-2006, 09:27 PM
""Don't worry Clark. If I had a beautiful woman living in my house, I'd use saracasm to hide my true feelings too." - Oliver Queen"
Given the critiera above, the only 'feelings' one would have for a beautiful woman would be those of lust and since Clark saw lois completely naked and wet and she didn't cause a stir or a twitch, there are no feelings of even lust for her, even after two years in his bed.
ginnyfan
10-21-2006, 09:37 PM
Originally posted by smallville86
If you read the TV Guide interview for the green arrow, they make it sound like this was the episode where Clark was supposed to realize that he had feelings for Lois. The only thing that was remotely close to that was when Ollie accused him of masking feelings for Lois because he lived with her for that period of time. Both Clark and Lois were like WTF. There was no look on Clark's face of maybe...
I didn't fall for their WTF cover. Clark was REALLY hurt by the fact that Lois called him a geek and Lois REALLY didn't want Ollie to repeat the things she said. Why? They should be used to it by now. What's different?
Also, at the end when Clark was giving Oliver advice about his relationship with Lois.
I definitely saw that Clark's feelings for Lois and hers for him have deepened. I like that it was subtle and I like that it's new. Nothing like Clana...
In short... I saw it! :D And I enjoyed.
SteveS
10-21-2006, 09:52 PM
"I didn't fall for their WTF cover. Clark was REALLY hurt by the fact that Lois called him a geek and Lois REALLY didn't want Ollie to repeat the things she said. Why? They should be used to it by now. What's different?"
Ah, the answer is most simple...Clark is not aware of the numerous times that lois has disparaged him behind his back. If lois were truly an up-front person, then she shouldn't be ashamed of being a consistant back-biter of ClarkMan in the past. Maybe she didn't want Oliver to repeat her disparaging remarks to Clark since the Kent family has fed her from the family teat since lois first barged her way into Clark's bedroom and even lois might have the first twinges of embarrassment at biting the hand of the family that has fed her for two years.
That or maybe she is not as upfront a character as some people think and she is lacking the courage to tell Clark to his face the various nasties she has said about him behind his back.
khufu
10-21-2006, 10:02 PM
Originally posted by Farm_Girl
- When Clark says “A geek” he looks at Lois not at Oliver, which means he asks for her confirmation of what she thinks of him as. From bickering teenagers to mature young friends, their relationship shows progress with just this moment.LOL What? If I was Clark I would have looked directly at anyone who I thought was that was talking smack about me as I finished that sentence. Maybe when Clark reacts to finding out that Lois has a boyfriend in the same obviously awkward manner that he reacted to finding out about Jimmy, then I might think he has feelings for Lois.
- Oliver’s priceless line that actually sets this triangle in motion is the one he says about masking feelings in sarcasm. Lois and Clark both used the word “feeling” and they were like, “oh someone has misunderstood us badly,” they don’t know themselves how they feel about each other!I don't know about Lois, but I know that there's nothing to suggest that Clark sees her as anything but a friend.
- Lois’s comment “marking the territory” and “play nice” all suggest where the writers are taking it.I thought it was hillariously arrogant how Lois assumed Clark and Oliver's conversation centered around her. Their disagreement stemmed from the fact that Oliver's response made it seem as if Martha was asking for it, which clearly pissed Clark off. That conversation was the beginning of Clark and Oliver's disagreement about the nature of Justice, as Ollie starts in with his "ends justify the means" philosophy. Lois assuming that they were bickering over her was yet another example of her being completely oblivious to what's happenening around her.
We have seen Clark jealous over Lois in Aqua and Fade, but they were more of “concerns about her safety”, he hasn’t ever been actually jealous of a Lois boyfriend because he loves Lois. So naturally, it couldn’t have come out of the blue. But this scene had a lot of depth and the dialogues and expressions showed a lot."We"? Ummm No, most people did not see that. Sure, he was looking out for her well being, but I fail to see how that unequivocally translates to jealousy. But then again, if Lois sneezed and Clark said "bless you", I suppose some people might see romance in that too.
Farm_Girl
10-21-2006, 10:39 PM
Clark/Lois/Oliver scene in Arrow is undoubtedly one of the best written scenes of Smallville lately. It brings maturity and intrigue alongside drawing a reference to the Clark/Lois/Bruce. You simply don’t find it amazing that it was a good story woven around the canon characters instead of the mediocre FOTW last week.
Clark’s shaking hands with Oliver, coming face to face with another hero under the same roof with the woman he’ll marry one day and yet not neither Lois or Clark having a clue of what future holds for them, I find the entire foreshadowing perfect. The lighting was also kept subtle and was great.
I think that Chloe fans would’ve found this scene a classic if Allison would feature in it, with the exact same ambiance and dialogues. It is sad that your love of only one character hinders your praising anything good that happens on the show.
And Lois’s talking about Clark behind back comparisons are so funny. Off course, she talks about Clark behind his back, and so does Clark, that is the fun in their relationship when they try to prove to everyone how much annoyed they are of each other:
Gone: (Clark to Lana): She’s bossy, she’s stuck up, she’s rude, I can’t stand her.
Aqua: (Clark to Lana): Would she sleep through me smoldering her with a pillow?
In Exposed he tells Jonathan he wants her to go away or something and in the end when she is moving out, he’s all shocked: “But you just moved back in?” Hey, you wanted her out remember? That is the fun in their relationship, they don’t know what they are? Friends, enemies or something else?
When Chloe asks Lois in Exposed: How would you survive without Clark? She says: “One word, blissfully”
In Spirit when Lois sees Chloe sad on seeing Clark with Lana, she tells her he could not keep up with you, simply because she doesn’t see Clark as the guy with high ambitions.
And don’t they insult each other all the time in front of each other as well? That is not “talking behind the back”, that is the fun of their relationship that they keep telling themselves and others that we can’t stand each other but the problem is they can’t live without each other too. Like Lana said it all:
“The best ones always start that way”
RedPhoenix23
10-21-2006, 10:48 PM
Originally posted by Farm_Girl
Clark/Lois/Oliver scene in Arrow is undoubtedly one of the best written scenes of Smallville lately. It brings maturity and intrigue alongside drawing a reference to the Clark/Lois/Bruce. You simply don’t find it amazing that it was a good story woven around the canon characters instead of the mediocre FOTW last week.
Bruce? Bruce Wayne? Umm... What? :confused:
In Exposed he tells Jonathan he wants her to go away or something and in the end when she is moving out, he’s all shocked: “But you just moved back in?” Hey, you wanted her out remember? That is the fun in their relationship, they don’t know what they are? Friends, enemies or something else?
Jonathan? Since when did Jonathan want Lois out? He seemed a little put off with her waay back in season 4's Gone after she got busted helping herself in the bathroom while Clark was nekkid and vulnerable in the shower but since then.... :confused:
BadToad
10-22-2006, 12:23 AM
Well, hasn't Clark done the same?
If you had checked on what I was responding to, it was a post saying *only* Clark talked behind Lois' back, while she didn't do the same thing. I was merely pointing out that this was incorrect, and Lois did the same. I was not saying Clark didn't do it.
I think the reason I'm more bothered by Lois' comments then Clark is that I see her more as the instigator for the tone of the relationship. Especially since Clark doesn't take this attitude with anyone else, while Lois seems to take this attitude with many people. Sometimes its cute, sometimes I find it irritating. I'm also not sure where Lois' attitude towards Clark comes from seeing as how he's saved her on a number of occasions, and the Clark Kent in Smallville isn't really a geek in any way. Lois superior attitude doesn't really fit with the way the Lois and Clark characters are presented on Smallville, IMO.
And I do have an issue with Lois talking behind Clark's back to someone he doesn't even know. There does seem to be a line crossed in that regard, IMO. Talking to Chloe, or Jonathan, or someone else in the inner circle seems fine.
Kal-ed
10-22-2006, 02:13 AM
I dunno maybe she said Clark was a geek to avoid jealousy on Ollies behalf, I mean I think I posted this before, maybe even here, but I found it really normal that she wouldnt go on and on to Ollie about Clarks abs and pecks and Clark Jr. and how he has saved her life in more than one ocation and is an honorable guy, Clark can be very intimidating to his girl friends´s boyfriends as we have seen with Jimmy and Olliver (although Ollie being the CEO type kept his pokar face) but hey I mean Clark is Superman and in Canon (and regardelss of what people may think of TW´s looks) Superman/Clark is a very handsome specimen.
Originally posted by RedPhoenix23
Jonathan? Since when did Jonathan want Lois out? ... :confused:
She didnt mean Johnathan, she meant that Clark TOLD Jonathan he wanted Lois out.
Nightingale20
10-22-2006, 09:10 AM
Originally posted by BadToad
And I do have an issue with Lois talking behind Clark's back to someone he doesn't even know. There does seem to be a line crossed in that regard, IMO. Talking to Chloe, or Jonathan, or someone else in the inner circle seems fine.
I see your point. But Oliver will become part of the inner circle soon.
Originally posted by BadToad
And I do have an issue with Lois talking behind Clark's back to someone he doesn't even know. There does seem to be a line crossed in that regard, IMO. Talking to Chloe, or Jonathan, or someone else in the inner circle seems fine.
It's called small talk. I'm sure everyone has done it on more then one occasion. I'm sure she didn't say just that about Clark for Ollie to get so bothered by the presence of Clark. Just because we aren't shown the scene doesn't mean it didn't happen. How else do you get to know someone you are dating?
Ireallylikethisshow
10-22-2006, 12:34 PM
Originally posted by ajfinn
He seemed like he would've been a lot more concerned if he was looking for his wallet than looking for Lois when she went missing.
He picked up the phone, he said something like, "looks like someone took her" with no worry whatsoever in his voice, imo. Then when he suspected that it was the Green Arrow, got the scan from Chloe, KNEW it was Oliver ..... he went to Ollie's house rather than follow him. It just made no sense.
FAR from having feelings for Lois. When Chloe or Lana go missing he gets all intense and concerned.
That annoyed me at first, 'cause I thought he was just forgetting about her. But then I thought about it, 'cause that not only wouldn't be good for Clois. It'd also be bad for Clark's character. He's suposed to care about others.
But he said "Looks like someone took her." He said it kinda bitter and cold. Then he said he thought it was The Green Arrow. And then he found out that Oliver Queen is The Green Arrow, and he went to Oliver's house to see if it's true, and then he found the clue to where Lois was. He had gone to chase after the green arrow because he's the one who he thought kidnapped Lois. It was his closest lead
And I think Clark was jealous. Just not Othello jealous. He had some angry looks. He had made his voice all deep and he and Oliver got a little 'pissy'. And I think some of that was threatened territory. I don't think Clark knew he was jealous, but I think he was. I think he was jealous with Chlimmy also.
LovelyLoisLane
10-23-2006, 11:37 AM
Originally posted by InLove_with_Chloe
By the way, about that scene:
Why did Clark say:'...and you must be Oliver Queen...', when they got introduced?!?
I mean, Clark went to OQ's place to get the necklace. Who did he expect there - Santa Claus?!?
Some bad, bad writing today again...
Kinda like Chloe's line in "Sneeze"
I almost hit Lois! ~ Clark
As in Lane? ~ Chloe
Sometimes the word "duh" just really isn't enough is it? lol
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Clark wasn't anal about Oliver like he was about Aquaman and he didn't give Lois a dirty look like he did with Chloe when Jimmy was around, but he was over sensitive on the topic of Oliver not hurting Lois and being honest with her.
So I wouldn't say he liked Oliver, or that he was jealous of him, but I wouldn't say that that he was unaffected by the whole Lollie thing either.
I don't know, it's hard to place and makes me think.
In the T.V. Guide snippet they said that the Lollie relationship would make Clark start to realize that he may have some feelings for Lois, but it wasn't episode specific.
Wombat
10-23-2006, 01:41 PM
Perhaps Clark is a little envious right now of almost anyone in a blooming relationship. He believes (as attested at the end of the episode) that he is destined to be alone and seperate from the world. We, the audience, know otherwise, but Clark doesn't. Right now, it is hard for him to accept this and still find some way of being happy.
Nightingale20
10-23-2006, 01:57 PM
I like that it is "starting to realize" and not just woke up one day and realized. Right now Clark's reaction is hard to pin. Right now, I'm seeing Clark as protective and concerned friend. I won't say much until feelings that are not debatable are shown (no possible he is just being a good friend).
Originally posted by vuec
It's called small talk. I'm sure everyone has done it on more then one occasion. I'm sure she didn't say just that about Clark for Ollie to get so bothered by the presence of Clark. Just because we aren't shown the scene doesn't mean it didn't happen. How else do you get to know someone you are dating?
It would be interesting how she would explain away their first time they met if that was asked. That would be tricky. :lol:
House of Kent
10-23-2006, 04:10 PM
If Clark is going to develope feelings for Lois he definently have to tell her the truth about being superman...... cause she'll know there is something funny going on and she wont stop until she gets to the truth !
All about Clark
10-23-2006, 09:55 PM
^I thought about this to. But the negative feelings towards GA was based on her own experiences and thinking he was behind her kidnapping. Regardless, I don't think it will turn out well when Lois learns Ollie is GA.
But with Clark, if there's no negative feelings towards Superman, then she would accept Clark's secret better. But I agree that based on Clark's own words about Ollie keeping his secret from Lois will only hurt her, means that Clark himself will probably tell her before too much time goes by in their romantic relationship. And that being said, it would seem to be near the end of the series. Because the last thing he wants to do is stall like he did with Lana.
Originally posted by All about Clark
^I thought about this to. But the negative feelings towards GA was based on her own experiences and thinking he was behind her kidnapping. Regardless, I don't think it will turn out well when Lois learns Ollie is GA.
But with Clark, if there's no negative feelings towards Superman, then she would accept Clark's secret better. But I agree that based on Clark's own words about Ollie keeping his secret from Lois will only hurt her, means that Clark himself will probably tell her before too much time goes by in their romantic relationship. And that being said, it would seem to be near the end of the series. Because the last thing he wants to do is stall like he did with Lana.
Well, to answer your thoughts here goes. First off, Lois falls for Superman, not Clark, and as we've seen in the movies and comics, Clark isn't too keen on it. He really wishes she would see Clark and like him, not Superman. No relationship can really come of them unless she knows his secret and it never does until that happens. I don't see them dating or anything like that but... maybe just some awkward moments like the one at the end of 'Zod'.
As for Ollie and Lois, I think Ollie will come to realize the truth in Clark's words and end the relationship because Lois won't end her war against GA. He is obviously hurt by how she feels about GA already.
Kal-ed
10-24-2006, 08:52 AM
Originally posted by vuec
Well, to answer your thoughts here goes. First off, Lois falls for Superman, not Clark, and as we've seen in the movies and comics, Clark isn't too keen on it. He really wishes she would see Clark and like him, not Superman. No relationship can really come of them unless she knows his secret and it never does until that happens.
Nope your talking pre crisis. On current continuity Lois had a CRUSH on Superman, and slowly developes feelings for Clark, and even dicides to date Clark, afterwards she gets engaged with Clark, after they got engaged Clark told her the truth. So she actually chose Clark over Superman, not kowing she would get them "both" anyway. But no what you said is inacurate in terms of canon, how ever who knows how SV will handle it. They seem to want Clois, but I doubt it will anytime before mid season 7 and even then it wont be full on, probably Clark will tel her he has to leave to fullfill his destiny and that he doesnt want to start a relationship with her just to leave afterwards.
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