Lana Knew?

[origin1981]

I think Lana knew it was a test of some kind. Because she would figure out that if she knew that lionel would eventually approach the scientist so did lex and if lex knew that then he would know that his father knew about the black box. Knowing that lex knows this she could figure out that he would know that lionel would eventaully approach her about it. Plus because lex openly talked about it in front of Lana. I hope I did not confuse you.

What I am trying to say is that she could figure out that lex already knew that lionel had discovered the project when lionel approached her.

[buddy232]

I think Lana knew it was a test! She told Lex to go on with the test so she could stay involved. I think she knew if she said quit that he would go on with it but keep her out of the loop!

[thedarknight]

No......

C'mon Lana match wits with Lex? Yeah right, she bought the story that cameras in her room were for her security.

[ginnyfan]

I think Lana knew it was a game too... It makes me think that Lex teaching her to play chess was a metaphor of some kind. He may think he's got her pegged but I think Lana will surprise him... I maybe reaching... but its fun to think of the possiblities. Rather than have Lana once again clueless and lied to.

[D.M.A.]

Originally posted by ginnyfan
I think Lana knew it was a game too... It makes me think that Lex teaching her to play chess was a metaphor of some kind. He may think he's got her pegged but I think Lana will surprise him... I maybe reaching... but its fun to think of the possiblities. Rather than have Lana once again clueless and lied to.
naw not reachin u may be right,as of right now even lex has sumthin to learn.But havin an equal will lead not only her but him down the dark path.Which should be fun to watch a power couple so dark imo

[firefly01]

Originally posted by thedarknight
No......

C'mon Lana match wits with Lex? Yeah right, she bought the story that cameras in her room were for her security.

Exactly my thoughts. I don't think Lana can run a scam like that, but maybe she could in the future.

[angelfire east]

I don't think she knew it was a test.

[All about Clark]

OK, I really don't want to be the only person who saw this.

They (Lex & Lana) were all being played by Lionel. Lex or Groll started it by being suspicious of Lana and Lex asked Lionel to test Lana. Lionel went further and told Lana the box needed to be destroyed. What we didn't see was Lionel telling Lana how she was being tested by Lex. Lionel offscreen told Lana exactly what to do to past the test. Lionel just got Lana on his side, although Lana won't trust either one 100%. But she wants to see this thing destroyed too IMO, just like Lionel. But she played the card Lex wanted to hear.

Man, they always show brilliance with Lionel. Truly amazing. Now if they could only smarten Clark up.

[gj430]

that sounds good but you can't know for sure since it was off screen. Hopefully they will somehow bring all this up again later

[All about Clark]

If it was only a test, Lionel would never have told Lana the box needed to be destroyed. Plus it was OOC for Lana to threaten in that way. Her look in the elevator said, "can I do this". Watch again if you don't believe me.

[firefly01]

I think the whole test was about Lex wanting to see what Lionel would do. Lex wasn't rattled at all in his last conversation with Lionel, and clearly had the upperhand. In seasons past, Lionel would have been the one with the smug look on his face leaving Lex all uncomfortable instead of the other way around.

I'm not a bit surprised that Lana wouldn't want the box destryed for the exact reason that she gave. We already know that she's terrified of the Kryptonians (that she knows of- Zod, Namek, Aethyr), and of the destruction that they can bring.

I agree that Lana threatening the doctor in the elevator was definitely new, but if it's the direction that TPTB are going with her character then it may not be too OOC after all. But, yeah, my jaw totally dropped during that scene. For what it's worth, I hope that she doesn't revert back to the old Lana anytime soon, because I dig this one.

[jimmyolsenblues]

I think Lana knew it was a test of some kind.

I agree, lana knows lex will make her jump through hoops. Its depressing seeing lana jump so willingly like a lapdog.

[firefly01]

Bah! When TPTB want us to know something, they show us with anvils. If Lana had been running a scam, there would have been some kind of look from her, a Mwa-Ha-Ha! moment to clue us in. Like when Lana trashed her own room to hide the stone in S4? They made sure that we knew it was her. I didn't see anything like that in this ep at all.

And seriously... Considering everything that Lana doesn't know, can anyone really believe that she can put all of this together? Please. Lana is as clueless as they come, but if her character gets darker, maybe she'll finally wise up in the future.

[neilmajithia]

firefly, you yourself pointed out about lanas complete deception of everyone with the stone back in season 4. I think shes probably more clued up then people give her credit for. Yes she can be the most annoying characher when she goes into victim mode. However it helps her in the way it allows the low expectation people have of her to allow her to work deceitfully without being suspected or detected.

[Dor el]

Originally posted by All about Clark
OK, I really don't want to be the only person who saw this.

They (Lex & Lana) were all being played by Lionel. Lex or Groll started it by being suspicious of Lana and Lex asked Lionel to test Lana. Lionel went further and told Lana the box needed to be destroyed. What we didn't see was Lionel telling Lana how she was being tested by Lex. Lionel offscreen told Lana exactly what to do to past the test. Lionel just got Lana on his side, although Lana won't trust either one 100%. But she wants to see this thing destroyed too IMO, just like Lionel. But she played the card Lex wanted to hear.

Man, they always show brilliance with Lionel. Truly amazing. Now if they could only smarten Clark up.

This was my take on this as well.

[firefly01]

This reminds me too much of the LANA IS BRAINIAC theory. Same stuff being said, same nothing supporting it.

Yeah, I totally think she could pull one over on people. I've been suspecting since the beginning of S4 that she would turn evil. I think she'd have to be evil to run a scam like this on Lex, and she's definitely not there yet.

[bobser]

Lana had no clue. If anything, she was happy thinking Lex wasn't keeping secrets and lies from her with telling her about the motherbox.

[SVSpector]

I think she realized as soon as she saw the device that she was "in bed" with the wrong man. The look on her face said it all.

How can the stones have the same marking as the device and her not know they "somehow belong to Clark", as she mentioned in Commencement about the stones. Lana is playing dark and dirty with Lex, she has her own agenda now. Lana may have already put the pieces together and now knows the truth about Clark. The clues are there...she knows a ship landed with the first meteor shower and someone may be living among them as a human...she knows Clark fell apart around her when she was wearing the k-nite necklace and she knows it is their (Kryptonians) weakness.

[Loranthius]

Originally posted by SVSpector
I think she realized as soon as she saw the device that she was "in bed" with the wrong man.

How can the stones have the same marking as the device and her not know they "somehow belong to Clark", as she mentioned in Commencement about the stones. Lana is playing dark and dirty with Lex, she has her own agenda now. Lana may have already put the pieces together and now knows the truth about Clark. The clues are there...she knows a ship landed with the first shower...she knows Clark fell aprat around her when she was wearing the k-nite necklace and she knows it is (Kryptonians) their weakness.

I think you are right. Lana knows alot more than anyone thinks she does. We're not exactly sure what her agenda is yet, but that should become more clear in the next few episodes.

[paolinki25]

To me, this was more about Lex testing Lionel than Lana.

[firefly01]

Originally posted by paolinki25
To me, this was more about Lex testing Lionel than Lana.

Yeah, I totally agree with you. Lex was practically taunting Lionel at the end about the box.

Also, if Lionel really wanted the box to be destoyed, he would have told Clark about it. Clark would have stolen it and crushed it up, problem solved. Why even bother with Lana if Clark would have been more efficient? Nah, Lionel doesn't want the box destroyed at all.

And I think people are giving Lana waaaayy too much credit. If she knew anything, we would also know about it. I've watched her scenes a few times, and I just don't see anything there. No spark of recognition. No light bulb. Not even a cartoon bubble above her head. That girl's got squirrels running around in there- not complicated plots!

[Ares]

I highly doubt that Lana knew that was a test shes way to ditzy for anything like that. An shes concentrating way too much on trying to act "tough" for her to do both tasks.

[TheSupaMan]

I think you guys are giving Lana too much credit.

[All about Clark]

Originally posted by paolinki25
To me, this was more about Lex testing Lionel than Lana.

I have to really disagree with this, because Lex basically calls it when he says Lionel's behavior to be a good guy for the Kents has Lionel believing he is good. Now if that's Lex's perception, then he would have very little to fear from Lionel.

I really did think Lex was testing Lana.

And I also don't give Lana much credit, because Lionel laid out a script for her to follow (see my post on page 1) and uncomfortably she saw it through and totally played Lex. She saw that box in action and she nor Lionel wants that box messed with.

Also, the scene with Lana and Lionel, did you notice the scene ends before they were finished talking and neither had left the room. That's why there was more dialogue we didn't get to hear and it involved Lionel's plan.

P.S. Thanks Dorel I didn't want to feel alone on that.

[firefly01]

You know what I just thought of? Didn't the original spoiler say that it was Dr. Groll who didn't trust Lana, and wanted to test her loyalty? What if Dr. Groll was in on the test the whole time as well? When Dr. Groll first shows up at the mansion, Lex says, "Did we have an appointment?" Now, I'm pretty sure that the test had already begun, so it makes sense that Dr. Groll was supposed to show up then. Later, it was probably Dr. Groll who told Lex about Lana blackmailing him like she did.

Now, people are assuming that Lana met up with Dr. Groll in that elevator directly after her visit with Lionel, but that's not true. When she talks with Lionel, it is daytime. Next, Lionel meets with Clark to discuss the robberies, and then later Clark meets the Green Arrow that night. The elevator scene comes the next day (we see the metropolis skyline just before). That would give Lana plenty of time to look into Dr. Groll.

[Billy Jor-El]

Originally posted by All about Clark

Now if they could only smarten Clark up.

Hey, a sci-fci show is one thing, but devine miracles ain't gonna happen :lol:

[Ireallylikethisshow]

(The situatoin in my opinion)

Lex- has control over Lana and Lionel. Which means he has some control over Clark and Martha. He's the main manipulator.

Lana- is clueless of the test. She only knows that Lex wants to make that box used for good. And she is willing to help him with that, and is willing to sacrfice a number of things to do that.

Lionel- Is in love with Martha, and secretly feels like he's a good guy. But he's not. He's interested in the box, and willing to fake-out Lana and try and get Lex's trust. But Lex is ahead of him, and he tried to threaten Lex, but Lex threatened him right back.

Lex is in control of everyone.

[black-onyx]

C'mon Lana match wits with Lex? Yeah right, she bought the story that cameras in her room were for her security.


You'd have 'em too if your last girlfriend tried to kill you, and was meeting with your father secretly.

Anyway I think she probably does know.

[MBCorp]

I hope Lana did know it was a test...I kind of like the thought of Lex & Lana doing devious things to one another behind each other's backs.

[lee_the_flee]

Originally posted by All about Clark
Also, the scene with Lana and Lionel, did you notice the scene ends before they were finished talking and neither had left the room. That's why there was more dialogue we didn't get to hear and it involved Lionel's plan.


i like your theory, and did think it might be possible for a sec, but in the end I thought it is a bit of a stretch of the imagination, and here's why:

For starters, the scene did end properly. Lionel told Lana to destroy the box and she gasped. Then the scene ended. Just because they didn't continue to film Lana get up and walk out the door, that doesn't necessarily mean that they continued to talk some more, and that the contents of that conversation was about Lex's test of Lana, and that luthor told lana what to say so that she'll pass the test. That's like a series of different "what if's" all strung together.... increases improbability.

Secondly, and I'm actually coming to the end here :D ... if Lionel did plan to let Lana in on lex's little game, the dialogue between them would've been worded completely differently, particularly adding such words as "Lana, Lex is trying to test you..." :D

[All about Clark]

I don't agree with most of that^.

First Lana didn't gasp, I saw her as in agreement and/or receptive. Secondly he told her what to do to past the test, and she was uncomfortable doing it. Plus why would Lana leave the Lionel scene after Lionel saying that the box had to be destroyed. She would want to know his perspective and conversation would have continued regarding the box before Lionel brought up the test. They would need to come to some sort of agreement before he would let her in on the test, otherwise he would have simply done what Lex asked and not told her how to handle it the test.