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thehenry89
10-19-2006, 08:03 AM
talk about lana this episode

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nabadua
10-19-2006, 04:32 PM
Chud.

SVSpector
10-19-2006, 06:32 PM
Wow...she is a fast learner....

shirkie
10-19-2006, 06:32 PM
Wow... I am shocked to hear myself saying this... But I'm actually liking Lana right now....................!!!
shirkie

k18
10-19-2006, 06:33 PM
yeah! I like dark lana. She really is learning a thing or two from lex and lionel.

Rafael122
10-19-2006, 06:34 PM
That was cruel...awesome, but cruel.

ISUZU
10-19-2006, 06:35 PM
Originally posted by Rafael122
That was cruel...awesome, but cruel.

What did she do ? - please tell - we dont get it here at the moment.

TheSupaMan
10-19-2006, 06:35 PM
I don't know what you guys are talking about. I found it utterly disgusting to be honest.

FozzyRock
10-19-2006, 06:36 PM
I'm liking this Evil Lana, maybe not the fact that she is with Lex but the whole big talk to that Doctor guy was cool. Can't wait to see what they do with Lana over the course of the season.

Rafael122
10-19-2006, 06:37 PM
Originally posted by ISUZU
What did she do ? - please tell - we dont get it here at the moment.

Lex has a scientist analyzing the piece of rock that he had while he was Zod.

Lana and Lionel are planning to destroy it before Lex finds out what it is.

Lana and the scientist were in the elevator and Lana basically threatened the scientist, that all the nice stuff he had in life could be gone.

Damali
10-19-2006, 06:38 PM
I can't believe she threaten that doctor. :lol: I'm lovin' the Dark!Lana.

RamonaE
10-19-2006, 06:38 PM
I really liked dark Lana in this episode. They stepped it up a notch w/ her character. Though Lana's dark side did develop a little too quickly? Seriously, one night of sex w/ Lex and her whole demeanor changes?

I know there are some who say Lana has always been "bad."

Discuss Dark Lana here.

HowardFilms
10-19-2006, 06:39 PM
oh dear god...she's evil!

khufu
10-19-2006, 06:39 PM
Lana's got balls! :p Seriously, I'm loving what they're doing for her character now, she's not messing around!

98chase
10-19-2006, 06:39 PM
I don't know why, but I was glad that happened. I'm def. not a fan of Lexana, but seeing her evil like lex was just awsome.

al821
10-19-2006, 06:39 PM
she gonna be referred as darkana from now on?

HotStudsSuccess
10-19-2006, 06:40 PM
Lana was creepy in that scene, I am more scared of her than I am of Lex and Lionel, the both Luthors :eek:

RamonaE
10-19-2006, 06:40 PM
Darkana...I like it.

superhippie2000
10-19-2006, 06:41 PM
evil lana is better then cry baby lana

TheSupaMan
10-19-2006, 06:42 PM
Both are *****es. (excuse my language)

TWCK
10-19-2006, 06:46 PM
Wow, monkey see monkey do. Lana's a ***** :p

bad3appels
10-19-2006, 06:46 PM
kristin is soo much better when she plays evil,this means,i will like this episode :)

kneel before lana

RamonaE
10-19-2006, 06:48 PM
I really like Lana in this episode.

TheSupaMan
10-19-2006, 06:49 PM
I still hate her. I can't stop hating her just because she has a new gimmick.

Rafael122
10-19-2006, 06:51 PM
"Its what might save us the next time."

Come on! You still need the other half!

SVSpector
10-19-2006, 06:52 PM
I do wonder how they think Zod was beaten....do they think he jusr "went away".

Aloof
10-19-2006, 07:01 PM
I loved Lana's creepy smile! BWAHAHAHA. xD

cayayofm
10-19-2006, 07:06 PM
I think it was great, definetly a new side, I was dissapointed to seee that Lex was playing her. I think this could get really messy and interesting if the writters play it well.

khufu
10-19-2006, 07:06 PM
I'll take this Lana over the victim/princess any day. And with her new no-nonsense attitude, I can already see the fireworks when Lexana finally fails! I think Lex might be in for more than he bargained for! :)

D.M.A.
10-19-2006, 07:06 PM
Originally posted by khufu
Lana's got balls! :p Seriously, I'm loving what they're doing for her character now, she's not messing around!
agree if this is the direction they plan on goin wit her character I might be able to deal wit lexana bein half if not the whole season.Tonight was alil quick change for her but it was still nice to see her in the elevator.Her talk in that scene reminded me so much of lex from s1 when he threaten Nixon wit that paper.But yea 1 night wit the villian and her demeanor changes lol,tho quick I still like it.For sum reason she jus looks like she has a dark side,glad tptb r bringin this out.For how long who knows but tonight tho it was cool

Aloof
10-19-2006, 07:07 PM
Ahh, evil Lexana. Sounds terrific!

thehenry89
10-19-2006, 07:07 PM
i dislike lana in general but in this ep she's actually actin like she has a spine connecting her head to her legs instead of the spegehtii noodle thats been there for the past 5 years.

Blacksupes32
10-19-2006, 07:08 PM
Lex and Lionel setting up a test TOgether?
And Lana Passing it???
Wow, those Luthors really had me fooled.
Darkana is definately gonna take over this season. I hope i didnt ginx it, but I'd like her to stay like this for a while, if not for the rest of the series.

D.M.A.
10-19-2006, 07:08 PM
Originally posted by khufu
I'll take this Lana over the victim/princess any day. And with her new no-nonsense attitude, I can already see the fireworks when Lexana finally fails! I think Lex might be in for more than he bargained for! :)
true cause if she really is learnin from the luthors then he may not be so evil if they breakup.She seems like she may get sum dirt on him and thro it in his face lol,guess lex created a monster last week :lol:

paolinki25
10-19-2006, 07:09 PM
Lana was awesome in this episode. This whole twisted, dark relationship Lex and Lana have is very appealing to me. hehe

bad3appels
10-19-2006, 07:09 PM
i`m soo confused..people liked her in zod then hated her in wither and now people are liking her in arrow again...
i can`t wait to see how people will feels about her on the next episode :lol:

Supersonic
10-19-2006, 07:10 PM
I thought it was a little lame. Everyone who has any influential abilities has got to be extremely attractive and everyone who cowers at their feet has to be some sort of shuffling nerdy type.

angelfire east
10-19-2006, 07:10 PM
Mod Note:

I merged three threads into one, The threads in question are Wow, introducing Lana...Lana Luthor, Big-talkin' Lana??, and of course Dark Lana.

One thread pre-topic please! Thank you:)

MetroGirl06
10-19-2006, 07:11 PM
Surprise! Since when did Lana go around threating people? This is way better than the damsel in distress. But what I found pretty scary was that she barely blinked during the entire elevator scene! lol

RamonaE
10-19-2006, 07:12 PM
Originally posted by bad3appels
i`m soo confused..people liked her in zod then hated her in wither and now people are liking her in arrow again...
i can`t wait to see how people will feels about her on the next episode :lol:

I've always loved Lana.

bad3appels
10-19-2006, 07:14 PM
Originally posted by RamonaE
I've always loved Lana.
me too,whinning lana,evil lana,cry baby lana...
as long as she IS lana,i will love her:lol:

and if she turns evil,i love her even more,i love bad characters like kal-el or isobel...

alienkinfolk
10-19-2006, 07:14 PM
I'm glad Lana's character has a new direction and focus.I can stomach Dark Lana for now.

Coyote
10-19-2006, 07:17 PM
Bad Lana is fun. Much better than wimp Lana. They should have done this with her long ago.

paolinki25
10-19-2006, 07:18 PM
Yeah, I agree. This Lana is WAY better than wimp Lana. I really enjoyed her scenes with Lionel.

coasterprincess
10-19-2006, 07:20 PM
Yeah I'm still not sure how I'm feeling about this. Of course I'll take it over teary wimpy Lana anyday, but I'm not sure if it's all just jumping out too fast. I mean I could see being with Lex and getting involved with all of the alien stuff changing her personality...but it may be too much too quick. Still I'll wait and see how it goes before formally coming to a conclusion

Naomi
10-19-2006, 07:25 PM
Dark Lana should be awesome :D

Man of Steels45x
10-19-2006, 07:25 PM
i hate dark lana, she sounds so much like a b......., anyway i think she'll go so far with lex and his evil. And then randomly found out clarks secret and somehow find her way back to goodness or whatever

TheSupaMan
10-19-2006, 07:26 PM
Let's be honest, its the last resort for the producers.

heatvision=CK+CS
10-19-2006, 07:27 PM
Why hellooo Miss Lana Soprano :eek:

Did anyone laugh when Lana was threating that one guy with the glasses in the elavater:lol: I thought it was super funny!:eek:, I dont know, I just felt like I was watching the Grandmother or something on the mafia:lol: She was just going on about how it would be bad if he rated and stuff to Lional, I just thought she was gonna go on about after she told him about his job and like 3 kids or something she was gonna say, "How you go for an ice cream every friday, how you put the toilt paper roll facing outward, how you only wear brefs, how you have a mole in your belly button, how you like to have your drinks shaken not stired, AND how you perfer the smell of lavender to vallina and the color perywinkal to sky blue!"

But anyways, I was just wondering if they made Lana's character all of a sunden so like, just like indepented and more deeper voiceish latly:\. Anyways:lol: Episode was AMAZING:eek: really cool, I wouldnt mind seeing him again, he was...."shweet":o

Aloof
10-19-2006, 07:28 PM
Hehe, yep! She was indeed creepy!

thehenry89
10-19-2006, 07:28 PM
why the heck couldn't lana always have been like this i might have actually liked/respected her more.

heatvision=CK+CS
10-19-2006, 07:30 PM
:rotfl:Oh my gosh Totaly:eek:

Aloof
10-19-2006, 07:31 PM
Hehe. I love the evil side of Lana, and how Lex is "teaching" her. ;)

Nightingale20
10-19-2006, 07:31 PM
I always liked Lana but I really liking the dark lana in this episode. I am glad they didn't turn it into the victim and naive route. I was really surprised when she threatened the guy. Didn't know she had it in her.

Nightingale20
10-19-2006, 07:33 PM
I was thinking how did she know about his family? Creepy especially when the guy started to look freaked a bit.

Aloof
10-19-2006, 07:35 PM
Background check I'm guessing. O.O;

heatvision=CK+CS
10-19-2006, 07:37 PM
:rotfl:Oh gosh YES:eek: I think its just so fun to watch:D:lol:, I love watching them alot more latly, I think the chimmly has just made me want alittle darkness, when I first saw Jimmy's face I littleraly, no joke threw up in my mouth:(....well:o, it was proably cause I wasnt feeling good and I decieded THAT was the best time for a slice of that very sugery frosting cake:\, but:o, anyways, just bad timing for him:lol:...and bad timing for me:eek:, I almost missed that he is a jerk and didnt CALL her back:lol:

But yes:lol: I do enjoy watching the magic

Coyote
10-19-2006, 07:40 PM
They definitely should have made Lana like this from the start, and they should have gotten her together with the Luthors a lot sooner. She is sooo much cooler in bad girl scenes with Lionel and Lex than she was in whiny baby scenes with Clark.

cmm
10-19-2006, 07:43 PM
Originally posted by TheSupaMan
Let's be honest, its the last resort for the producers.

LOL so true. But I gotta admit I tolerate her more this way.

angelfire east
10-19-2006, 07:45 PM
Mod Note:

I merged three threads into one, The threads in question are Wow, introducing Lana...Lana Luthor, Big-talkin' Lana??, Why hello, Miss- and of course Dark Lana

One thread pre-topic please! Thank you:)

warriorrenegade
10-19-2006, 07:51 PM
Is she really Dark Lana? I mean to me it looked like she was alittle hesitant when she confronted the doctor in the elevator. Watch you'll see her collect herself before she unloads on him. I think Lana is playing them all. She somehow knows Lex is testing her. Shes just one step ahead of them, Im just waiting for her to trip up and Lex discovers her betrayal and unleashes the beast so to speak.

MBCorp
10-19-2006, 07:52 PM
I enjoyed Lana's evilish scene in the elevator, although really it seems to be coming completely out of nowhere. Ah, well. At least she was kind of interesting in this episode.

TampaVille
10-19-2006, 07:59 PM
Originally posted by shirkie
Wow... I am shocked to hear myself saying this... But I'm actually liking Lana right now....................!!!
shirkie

What I loved most about it was that the writers didn't just completely (and randomly) change her character! You could see how she really had to build up the confidence to do that, then the release afterward when she sighed and tried to hold it all together. Then the apology to Lex... it's actual character development!

Yet another development that we've been begging for that this season is finally bringing us =). Keep it coming!

boywithbluehanger
10-19-2006, 08:05 PM
I liked Lana as "Dark Lana" even though in my mind she is still good. She's just looking out for Lex by stooping to him and his father's methods. It was time for a new spin in Lana's life and this works as good as anything else could at this point in the series.

It trully felt like MR's lines coming out of the mouth ok KK! She played it well too!

angelfire east
10-19-2006, 08:08 PM
I knew she had it in her;)

jmf1
10-19-2006, 08:14 PM
Originally posted by TheSupaMan
I still hate her. I can't stop hating her just because she has a new gimmick.

Totally agree. Still don't like the Lana character. It seems to me that she forgets everything she says and does from one episode to another and from one season to another. She flip flops more than any realistic person.

D.M.A.
10-19-2006, 08:19 PM
Originally posted by MBCorp
I enjoyed Lana's evilish scene in the elevator, although really it seems to be coming completely out of nowhere. Ah, well. At least she was kind of interesting in this episode.
But for how long will be the question since tptb can't seem to make her consistent thruout episodes.Like Zod to sneeze jus didn't match.So hopefully in reunion she stays on this path,should be interested tho if so

Charissa70
10-19-2006, 08:23 PM
Lana seemed to change too fast from how she was last week. Either Lex's sperms are impowering her or the heads of the show are starting to read the comments of the viewers on how most people think she was too shallow and whiny.

spideyfan
10-19-2006, 08:30 PM
Dark Lana = female Lex.
In the end I think Lana will be the one playing Lex w/ Lionel. Lana darkness > Lex darkness.

TampaVille
10-19-2006, 08:32 PM
I know this is a bit off topic, but for any 24 fans out there, did Lana tonight remind you of Sherry Palmer? She did for me.

ginnyfan
10-19-2006, 08:37 PM
I don't think Lana's dark. But... oh I can't think of any good analogies... she's got to up her game if she's going to be a part of Lex's life and that's what that scene was about. Lana has always been strong and she's always been a survivor deep down. So... Kristin made some good choices with the little moments before and after the blackmail. To show that Lana is not at home here... but she's gonna fight hard for Lex no matter what it takes. I think it would be very cool if she knew that she was going to have to play these games with Lex and Lionel and knew that there was more going on beneath the surface. If Lana knew she was playing a very difficult Chess game with Lex. LOL! Lex you shoulda never taught her how to play.

So no... not evil...yet. It sure was hot when she blackmailed that guy though. I'm loving the development of Lana's character. And the idea that she may have ulterior motives for being in the mansion.

Dark Knight23
10-19-2006, 08:41 PM
Dark Lana totally blew me away. I wasn't expecting that. I thought she was going to work with Lionel not with Lex. That was definetly a surprise. And I like Dark Lana. New dimensions to her character. I like it.

Bookwrm17
10-19-2006, 08:44 PM
Evil Lana...I could get used to this.

And I've HATED Lana since season 2.


Originally posted by ginnyfan
So no... not evil...yet. It sure was hot when she blackmailed that guy though. I'm loving the development of Lana's character. And the idea that she may have ulterior motives for being in the mansion.

Ok, you're right. She's not quite evil yet. But she's definately working her way up to it. And it's a big improvement.

paolinki25
10-19-2006, 08:45 PM
Well, I doubt she's gonna play Lex. This is freakin Lex Luthor. It would be lame if Lana ends up playing him, but I can totally see her getting more and more involved into his world.

MBCorp
10-19-2006, 08:47 PM
Originally posted by paolinki25
Well, I doubt she's gonna play Lex. This is freakin Lex Luthor. It would be lame if Lana ends up playing him, but I can totally see her getting more and more involved into his world.

Are you kidding? Lex has been played by practically everyone on this show. He's totally inept. I can easily see Lana playing Lex and getting one over on him. Heck, a mentally impaired hamster could play this version of Lex Luthor.:p

newfan
10-19-2006, 08:52 PM
I love evil characters, but I still cant stand Lana, evil or not...cant stand her.

khufu
10-19-2006, 08:52 PM
Yeah I don't think she's "dark" either, since that implies that she's evil or something. I just think she's finally grown a backbone and has become much stronger and assertive. She doesn't come off as someone who will let others push her around anymore - she's done being the victim. I think it's great.

Bookwrm17
10-19-2006, 09:13 PM
I agree that it's nice to see Lana with a spine, but it's way more than that. Having a backbone means standing up for yourself. Threatening a man's job, his children and everything he holds dear? If that's not evil, what is?

TalkinMac
10-19-2006, 09:19 PM
I was a little surprised but I kinda liked it although I don't want her to turn evil.

Joe Bob
10-19-2006, 09:19 PM
I used to be in love with Chloe, I've never liked Lois but now I'm completely in love with Dark Lana. Give me more.

WhiteMage
10-19-2006, 09:25 PM
When I first realized what was going on in that elevator scene, all I could think was "Oh God, they're making Lana evil now? How far will TPTB go to keep her in the show?"

Seriously. When will it end?!

tokenblackguy
10-19-2006, 09:29 PM
Imo lana is still cheesy and overated and outdated. Lex laid his royal jules down to lana and now she lost her mind. Is lex's evil an STD? If so I think Lana caught it. Episode was overall pretty hot though with the whole I would hide sarcasm living with a pretty girl too. I think it was funny because both of them looked at eachother like something was there. Clois all the way.

thehenry89
10-19-2006, 09:30 PM
^ right on :)

TalkinMac
10-19-2006, 09:31 PM
Well I think this is the only way they can take her character now. Maybe she will get in deep and feel bad and redeem herself.

AngylWylde
10-19-2006, 09:35 PM
Lana is showing her true colors. She doesn't need to hide it now or deny it. But here it almost looks little girl Lana is playing in a grown-ups world. It's a little unbelievable her heavy-handedness, but no more so than Lana-fu is unbelievable. She has always been a *****, but now that she's not afraid to always hide it - I think she should stay that way. No switching back to the faux innocent princess routine.

On a side note, I like KK's acting sooo much better when she's being 'evil.'

thehenry89
10-19-2006, 09:37 PM
i think lana should get another mystical tatoo...it can be stamped right on her head and say: I AM AN IDIOT.

D.M.A.
10-19-2006, 09:38 PM
Originally posted by MBCorp
Are you kidding? Lex has been played by practically everyone on this show. He's totally inept. I can easily see Lana playing Lex and getting one over on him. Heck, a mentally impaired hamster could play this version of Lex Luthor.:p
I kno besides onxy and arguably Zod,lex has always been a victim imo.Anyone can get over on him and its sad,cause lionel is more evil(Lex)than lex luthor smh.So while seein evil lana tonight was good,I want evil lex more.Now if both r evil together I'm good but not lana over lex.Who's the villan here :lol:

ginnyfan
10-19-2006, 09:39 PM
Originally posted by WhiteMage
When I first realized what was going on in that elevator scene, all I could think was "Oh God, they're making Lana evil now? How far will TPTB go to keep her in the show?"

Seriously. When will it end?!

Watch Lana right before and right after the blackmail. She's terrified! Her heart is probably beating a mile a minute and even she's surprised the Dr. bought it. LOL!


Originally posted by thehenry89
i think lana should get another mystical tatoo...it can be stamped right on her head and say: I AM AN IDIOT.

LOL! If she really thinks that investigating that piece of the black ship will save earth... you're right! But it would be really cool if she consiously passed the tests with flying colors and her agenda is yet to be revealed. :) I might be hoping for too much but...

MBCorp
10-19-2006, 09:41 PM
Originally posted by D.M.A.
I kno besides onxy and arguably Zod,lex has always been a victim imo.Anyone can get over on him and its sad,cause lionel is more evil(Lex)than lex luthor smh.So while seein evil lana tonight was good,I want evil lex more.Now if both r evil together I'm good but not lana over lex.Who's the villan here :lol:

You know, I seriously am expecting Lex to try to talk Lana into joining him to kill off Lionel. I just got that vibe at the end when they were talking about Lionel.

Zungas
10-19-2006, 09:43 PM
I really hope Lana is on something.

Absentee
10-19-2006, 09:44 PM
Lana's playing her own game.

Let her be.

I swear, when she was wearing pink you complained.. when she was whiny... you complained.... when she had no backbone.... still complained.

Now that she's kicking ass, you still complain?

Well, for one, Lana is finally doing some stepping up, it's about damn time she told someone off. I bet it felt good for her.

Let her do what she needs to do and everything will unfold... but i'm afraid when that happens, most of you will still complain.

I guess it's a lose/lose situation no matter what.

Poetic Chaos
10-19-2006, 09:46 PM
Dear Lana,

Please Die.

-Poetic Chaos

seraphim
10-19-2006, 09:48 PM
Originally posted by coasterprincess
Yeah I'm still not sure how I'm feeling about this. Of course I'll take it over teary wimpy Lana anyday, but I'm not sure if it's all just jumping out too fast. I mean I could see being with Lex and getting involved with all of the alien stuff changing her personality...but it may be too much too quick. Still I'll wait and see how it goes before formally coming to a conclusion


Exactly! I agree....one episode isn't enough for me to make a decision!

Damali
10-19-2006, 10:40 PM
Originally posted by MBCorp
You know, I seriously am expecting Lex to try to talk Lana into joining him to kill off Lionel. I just got that vibe at the end when they were talking about Lionel.

Would TPTB, really take it that far? Lana plotting murder? I see her more as a dog-kicking evil person, at this point. Nothing deadly. But who knows.

I like Dark!Lana, but killing Lionel would be extreme. Lex on the other hand has plenty of reasons.

lana&Clark4ever
10-19-2006, 10:42 PM
ok where the hellz is the old lana? in that elevator scene it looked like she was lex...so scary haha

MBCorp
10-19-2006, 10:43 PM
Originally posted by lana&Clark4ever
ok where the hellz is the old lana? in that elevator scene it looked like she was lex...so scary haha

That's why I'm liking this Lana.:D

Lex is a god
10-19-2006, 10:45 PM
Lana was like a female Lex especially when she was in the elevator with the scientist. I am liking the evil Lana alot. I am also loving the relationship between her and Lex. Lana and Clark were so boring!!!!

ginnyfan
10-19-2006, 10:48 PM
Yum! She's alive! I agree that it's refreshing to see her doing something new... playing a dangerous game. Clana was boring. I'm sorry but most of the time it was.

Ilovebeinglost
10-19-2006, 10:48 PM
*****ness becomes her ;)

paolinki25
10-19-2006, 10:51 PM
Originally posted by Lex is a god
Lana was like a female Lex especially when she was in the elevator with the scientist. I am liking the evil Lana alot. I am also loving the relationship between her and Lex. Lana and Clark were so boring!!!!

I totally agree. She so channelled her inner Luthor in that scene. :D I approve this Lana!

paolinki25
10-19-2006, 10:52 PM
She was like a mini-Lex. :lol: Totally loving this Lana too. :D


Originally posted by MBCorp
You know, I seriously am expecting Lex to try to talk Lana into joining him to kill off Lionel. I just got that vibe at the end when they were talking about Lionel.

Oh, that would make a kick-ass storyline! But yeah, I guess TPTB wouldn't go that far. :\

Son of Kal-El20
10-19-2006, 10:58 PM
I'm loving Lana becoming a villian. The scene where she threatens that guy was a little chilling. Because she had a real sly but evil smile on her face while she was saying all that stuff. I didn't know she had it in her.

Lana might even become more diabolical than the Luthors( well, she could be a Luthor soon).

lana&Clark4ever
10-19-2006, 10:59 PM
that doesn't seem like she'll do that.

i think isobelle is coming back

and if she does...i want KASOBEL!:D

lana&Clark4ever
10-19-2006, 11:03 PM
lana love....yay for kk!

i like evil lana...but i dont want evil lana with lex.

isobelle yes...kasobel yes!

Spirit Detective
10-19-2006, 11:04 PM
Lana is going to have another unfortunate accident with her hand and a cuestick soon.

hassenmorad
10-19-2006, 11:05 PM
I just don't buy this whole evil Lana persona this season. It just seems so forced to me. Anyone else feel the same way, because from what I see, many viewers actually like her new character.

TheOriginalKal-el
10-19-2006, 11:09 PM
Originally posted by hassenmorad
I just don't buy this whole evil Lana persona this season. It just seems so forced to me. Anyone else feel the same way, because from what I see, many viewers actually like her new character.

I'm all for something new; but this...this isn't Lana. This is some PTB perverted creation. It's obvious there is no going back from this point.

lana&Clark4ever
10-19-2006, 11:14 PM
if they can make lois become a reporter that quick, then lana could go back to normal just like that.

and yes...the lana we see now is being forced and the lexana is being forced.

TheOriginalKal-el
10-19-2006, 11:14 PM
I'll be the dissenting vote here. I couldn't buy it. I watched the scene a couple of times. It seemed awkward to me in a sense. As a seductress maybe but an intimidating figure? There was something out of place and I couldn't put my finger on it. One of those...if it looks like something, acts like something it has to be something else if you will.

PKII
10-19-2006, 11:17 PM
Originally posted by Spirit Detective
Lana is going to have another unfortunate accident with her hand and a cuestick soon. :lol:

red-K glory
10-19-2006, 11:19 PM
I think the whole Dark Lana thing is stupid really. She thinks that just because she is with Lex she can intimidate people and have power over them. it is absolutely ridiculus. Lana just simply cannot pull off being evil.

SmallvilleInBama
10-19-2006, 11:19 PM
Originally posted by Lex is a god
Lana was like a female Lex especially when she was in the elevator with the scientist. I am liking the evil Lana alot. I am also loving the relationship between her and Lex. Lana and Clark were so boring!!!!

that previous post pretty much summed up my thoughts too. I thought man, she's turned Luthor quickly.

Son of Kal-El20
10-19-2006, 11:20 PM
Finally, Lex is going to have an evil side kick girl. After two movies of having his side women turn on him, he's finally going to have a diabolical one.

paolinki25
10-19-2006, 11:22 PM
Originally posted by lana&Clark4ever
if they can make lois become a reporter that quick, then lana could go back to normal just like that.

and yes...the lana we see now is being forced and the lexana is being forced.

But she's like this now because she's with Lex. If she goes back, then she will be the whinny girl again. NOOOOOO! :lol:

Spirit Detective
10-19-2006, 11:28 PM
I think that its the Lexana sex in Wither that has corrupted her. She was nasty, but never this evil towards other people (excluding the whole Isobel nightmare).

Absentee
10-19-2006, 11:30 PM
She kicked ass.

I love her in this episode only because I know she's got something up her sleeve.

WOOT! Go Lana! Now let's just put you back with Clark hehehe.

Naman is 1#
10-19-2006, 11:31 PM
Lana is getting real interesting now, Arrow was a good episode for her.

thehenry89
10-19-2006, 11:32 PM
Originally posted by Absentee


WOOT! Go Lana! Now let's just put you back with Clark hehehe.

:lol: hahahaha OMG...

Spirit Detective
10-19-2006, 11:40 PM
Seeing Lana like this (without the influence of something) is interesting.

paolinki25
10-19-2006, 11:47 PM
Oh god, no. No Clark for Lana, please. :lol:

I agree. This is a whole new side of Lana, and it's definitely interesting.

ginnyfan
10-19-2006, 11:48 PM
Lana's not evil. I think she's playing chess with Lex. She's trying to out maneuver him and save him. She may out maneuver him... but...

angelfire east
10-19-2006, 11:52 PM
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ChuckZod
10-20-2006, 12:09 AM
I didn't think it was possible but after that scene in the elevator, my detest for the Lana character shot through the roof. They need to stop trying to make her so over-important. She isn't!

Lex should be focusing on evil schemes that AREN'T Lana-centric.

She is threatening some dude just because she is Lex's girlfriend??

Ugh, get her off my screen and ship her back to Paris ASAP.

ginnyfan
10-20-2006, 12:14 AM
I wonder what Lex would have done to Lana if she hadn't passed the test. Would she have disappeared?

I think Lana's running as fast as she can to stay in the game. Hopefully she'll come out of all this relatively unscathed. First in Zod and now in Arrow, Lana is really fighting hard for Lex. It really makes me like her more.

MsSullivan
10-20-2006, 12:52 AM
the Lana elevator scene? pure genius. I've never liked Lana so much.

s_q
10-20-2006, 12:59 AM
I have this feeling that they are trying to make lana lang the girl lex luthor is with in the superman movies. and all those names she uses in the movies are gonna be lana langs aliases due to always running around as a fugutive. :P

InLove_with_Chloe
10-20-2006, 04:58 AM
Yay, AlMiles spent quite some time here and finally picked up our idea of dark Lana!!!

smallvilleobsessor17
10-20-2006, 05:30 AM
I don't think it worked very well, though. She seemed desperate to live up to Lex's standards.

Kryptonian-Ronin
10-20-2006, 06:44 AM
Lana's decent to the dark side is coming along nicely !

bad3appels
10-20-2006, 07:01 AM
she is up to something,i can tell :)

myankskent
10-20-2006, 07:27 AM
Lana's behavior this episode really came out of nowhere. As I was watching the elevator scene, I almost thought that we were watching Brainiac as Lana in that scene because it was just outrageous behavior even for Lana. I still don't think that Lana is evil and I need to see more of her character to know exactly what she is up to. If anything, this episode at least makes Lana's character watchable. This was the first episode in a long time where I was actually hoping for another Lana scene as I watched the episode.

FotW
10-20-2006, 07:28 AM
I thought it was funny, it seems like Lana's character changed right away, just like she said to Chloe it would happen "Wither". Personally, I think Dark Lana is overrated. What is her motivation for being evil? I think that just because Lana dates Lex Luthor doesn't mean she has to or should be his equal in villainy. Turning Lana from the girl next door into the villainess next door elevates her importance too much in the future Superhero vs. Supervillain thing Clark and Lex are supposed to have going on. I think the big three should have separate and unique destinies Clark=Hero, Lex=Villain and Lana something else. Also, giving Lana a supporting part of Lex's destiny is a poor substitute for giving her a life and storyline of her own. Why can't she become something apart from Clark or Lex? I have been waiting all the seasons to see Lex become the villain of the story and not Lana Lang.

myankskent
10-20-2006, 07:32 AM
Originally posted by FotW
I thought it was funny, it seems like Lana's character changed right away, just she said to Chloe it would in happen "Wither". Personally, I think Dark Lana is overrated. I think that just because Lana dates Lex Luthor doesn't mean she has to or should be his equal in villainy. Turning Lana from the girl next door into the villainess next door elevates her importance too much in the future Superhero vs. Supervillain thing Clark and Lex are supposed to have going on. I think the big three should have separate and unique destinies Clark=Hero, Lex=Villain and Lana something else. Also, giving Lana a supporting part of Lex's destiny is a poor substitute for giving her a life and storyline of her own. Why can't she become something apart from Clark or Lex? I have been waiting all the seasons to see Lex become the villain of the story and not Lana Lang.

You bring up a great point. If they make Lana evil to any degree, it will take away from an already pathetic Lex character who I'm sure that everyone wants to see step up this season. And why Lex is so interested in testing an 18 year old girl is beyond me. Can this guy do something on this show for a change that doesn't have anything to do with Lana? I am shocked that he even told her about that kryptonian piece that he found. Where are the secrets that he is keeping from her? So far, the only secret is how he tested her with Lionel.

MBCorp
10-20-2006, 07:41 AM
Originally posted by myankskent
And why Lex is so interested in testing an 18 year old girl is beyond me. Can this guy do something on this show for a change that doesn't have anything to do with Lana?

Sad but true, although Lex plotting behind Lana's back was at least a nice change from all of the sickly sweet, "Oh, Lana you keep me from my dark side" that we've been getting so far this season. And yes, it would be *really* nice to see Lex doing something that has nothing to do with Lana.

Kryptonian-Ronin
10-20-2006, 08:05 AM
I guess its true what they say about "sleeping with the devil".

Wonder how Clark will react to the "new and improved Lananator".

FotW
10-20-2006, 08:40 AM
Exactly. I guess it all comes back to this show being The-World-Revolves- Around-Lana-ville. What have we seen in season six so far? Clark is lost and lonely without Lana, and Lex now lives to have her as a girlfriend. :rolleyes: I just wish Clark and Lex would tell her to get her own destiny and leave them to theirs. I mean what has Lex done lately that has surprised (besides sleeping with Lana which really wasn't a surprise) or involved us (Lex fans or others) in his development as a villain? Are we supposed to be impressed that he can trick Lana? Because that really isn't impressive.


Originally posted by myankskent
If they make Lana evil to any degree, it will take away from an already pathetic Lex character who I'm sure that everyone wants to see step up this season. And why Lex is so interested in testing an 18 year old girl is beyond me. Can this guy do something on this show for a change that doesn't have anything to do with Lana? I am shocked that he even told her about that kryptonian piece that he found. Where are the secrets that he is keeping from her? So far, the only secret is how he tested her with Lionel.

myankskent
10-20-2006, 08:51 AM
Originally posted by FotW
Exactly. I guess it all comes back to this show being The-World-Revolves- Around-Lana-ville. What have we seen in season six so far? Clark is lost and lonely without Lana, and Lex now lives to have her as a girlfriend. :rolleyes: I just wish Clark and Lex would tell her to get her own destiny and leave them to theirs. I mean what has Lex done lately that has surprised (besides sleeping with Lana which really wasn't a surprise) or involved us (Lex fans or others) in his development as a villain? Are we supposed to be impressed that he can trick Lana? Because that really isn't impressive.

I agree. That was my biggest fear of this season when I heard that Lex was going to corrupt Lana. To me, that doesn't make Lex Luthor powerful. It makes him pathetic that he would care so much about an 18 year old girl who can be fooled by Shelby on this show with her stupidity.

D.M.A.
10-20-2006, 09:07 AM
Originally posted by myankskent
I agree. That was my biggest fear of this season when I heard that Lex was going to corrupt Lana. To me, that doesn't make Lex Luthor powerful. It makes him pathetic that he would care so much about an 18 year old girl who can be fooled by Shelby on this show with her stupidity.
well that could be true while it was nice to see lana act sumwhat evil this episode,lex build up wasn't the same.He isn't the same person that started off s5 he's nice,so I can understand why it would be complicated.He has to be 2 steps ahead of her not suprise at her/behind her...at this point she's more evil then him and that's sayin sumthin if he's the villan of the story.So while I dont mind her bein evil,lex does have to step it up alot so then it would make her transformation more believable.

WhiteMage
10-20-2006, 09:10 AM
I agree with both of you (FotW and myankskent)! I am sick and tired of what they're doing to Lex's character.

This is hard for me to say, but....I'm bored with Lex right now. *gasp!* Yes, I can't believe it! From the first time I watched Smallville, it was always Lex who intrigued me. Lex's character is what made me want to watch this show; Lex was the most interesting, and I completely fell in love with his character. I'd get excited if a Lex scene was on the TV and bored when it was Lana or Clark.

But now, this season, it's different. I find myself desperately craving scenes with Lois, Clark, Oliver, and even Chloe. And when I see the Luthor mansion appear and know its going to be another fantastic Lexana scene, I just roll my eyes. What are they doing with Lex, the best character on the show? Why are they wasting their time with Lana, when they should be focusing on his destiny with Clark? Ugh, I'm sick of their attempts to keep her character important on the show. Go home Lana, Nell misses you.

FotW
10-20-2006, 09:21 AM
Indeed, it's a sad state of affairs in SV when we Lex fans are getting bored with Lex. :(

Fly by guy
10-20-2006, 09:25 AM
Michael seems to be playing Lex as bored. Even in scenes when he would normally be over the top we don't even get a good smirk.
Lana surprised me with her elevator scene, but I see that as an attempt to simply develop the weapon as a security safeguard and she thinks that Lex is more capable of that then the government and their moral restrictions. If Lana is turning evil, I hope soon they will replace her with the scarecrow from the Pilot.

Nerial
10-20-2006, 09:27 AM
I loved evil Lana. I loved that her evilness is based on a relationship that is doomed, and when she discovers what's really going on, she's going to have A LOT of regret.

Muhahaha! :p

MBCorp
10-20-2006, 09:36 AM
Originally posted by WhiteMage
I agree with both of you (FotW and myankskent)! I am sick and tired of what they're doing to Lex's character.

This is hard for me to say, but....I'm bored with Lex right now. *gasp!* Yes, I can't believe it! From the first time I watched Smallville, it was always Lex who intrigued me. Lex's character is what made me want to watch this show; Lex was the most interesting, and I completely fell in love with his character. I'd get excited if a Lex scene was on the TV and bored when it was Lana or Clark.

But now, this season, it's different. I find myself desperately craving scenes with Lois, Clark, Oliver, and even Chloe. And when I see the Luthor mansion appear and know its going to be another fantastic Lexana scene, I just roll my eyes. What are they doing with Lex, the best character on the show? Why are they wasting their time with Lana, when they should be focusing on his destiny with Clark? Ugh, I'm sick of their attempts to keep her character important on the show. Go home Lana, Nell misses you.

Same here. I've been bored with Lex since season 5. I think most people are pretty bored with Lex, actually. He used to be a popular character and had a pretty big fanbase but it has dwindled since S5. And Lex used to be my absolute favorite character too, I used to be a huge Lex fanatic. Now I'm more into Lois and the other characters & I also feel bored during Lexana mansion scenes. Heck, Lana interests me more than Lex does, at least she did in Arrow.


Michael seems to be playing Lex as bored. Even in scenes when he would normally be over the top we don't even get a good smirk.

Michael has been phoning it in since S5. He was once the best actor on the show but you're right, he doesn't put any effort into his acting most of the time anymore and just acts bored much of the time.

D.M.A.
10-20-2006, 10:33 AM
Originally posted by MBCorp
Same here. I've been bored with Lex since season 5. I think most people are pretty bored with Lex, actually. He used to be a popular character and had a pretty big fanbase but it has dwindled since S5. And Lex used to be my absolute favorite character too, I used to be a huge Lex fanatic. Now I'm more into Lois and the other characters & I also feel bored during Lexana mansion scenes. Heck, Lana interests me more than Lex does, at least she did in Arrow.



Michael has been phoning it in since S5. He was once the best actor on the show but you're right, he doesn't put any effort into his acting most of the time anymore and just acts bored much of the time.
I agree I was sumwhat still am(Cause I kno the potential)a big lex fan,I was more hype about his turn to evil than clark bein superman.But now its gettin borin seein him cause he's startin to remind me of clark from s1-3 tryin to get lana.His obssesion for the truth was cool back in the day but now he's lost that and now only focus on lana.And ur right she was more interestin in arrow then lex and that's sad,lex was like a backstory/subplot no real need for this episode imo.I'm hopin tptb change this quick cause I would luv to see lex evil without Zod in him and for once actually outdo lionel in evil deeds.I kno the potential of the character jus off onyx and Zod but they have to keep it up,not tone down the evilness and have him this good guy smh.All the other characters cause have ups and downs to me,but lex has to improve quick

MBCorp
10-20-2006, 10:56 AM
Originally posted by D.M.A.
I agree I was sumwhat still am(Cause I kno the potential)a big lex fan,I was more hype about his turn to evil than clark bein superman.But now its gettin borin seein him cause he's startin to remind me of clark from s1-3 tryin to get lana.His obssesion for the truth was cool back in the day but now he's lost that and now only focus on lana.And ur right she was more interestin in arrow then lex and that's sad,lex was like a backstory/subplot no real need for this episode imo.I'm hopin tptb change this quick cause I would luv to see lex evil without Zod in him and for once actually outdo lionel in evil deeds.I kno the potential of the character jus off onyx and Zod but they have to keep it up,not tone down the evilness and have him this good guy smh.All the other characters cause have ups and downs to me,but lex has to improve quick

Yeah, I agree that he does have potential (like in Cyborg, which was my favorite S5 Lex characterization) I just wish that the writers would do something with his potential! They keep dragging their feet though. :\

Oh, and D.M.A, you might want to go over to the spoiler forum. There's a pretty intense director's cut clip for Reunion up at the CW's website that's Lex centered.

RamonaE
10-20-2006, 11:01 AM
Originally posted by MBCorp
Same here. I've been bored with Lex since season 5. I think most people are pretty bored with Lex, actually. He used to be a popular character and had a pretty big fanbase but it has dwindled since S5. And Lex used to be my absolute favorite character too, I used to be a huge Lex fanatic. Now I'm more into Lois and the other characters & I also feel bored during Lexana mansion scenes. Heck, Lana interests me more than Lex does, at least she did in Arrow.



Michael has been phoning it in since S5. He was once the best actor on the show but you're right, he doesn't put any effort into his acting most of the time anymore and just acts bored much of the time.

He's probably bored by the crappy dialogue or weird scenarios he gets placed in. If I were Mike, I'd be bored w/ what they were giving me too. Hopefully the next episode will highlight him.

Tomsgurl88
10-20-2006, 11:10 AM
I was LOVING her all gansta!!!!!! LOL lex is definitely turning her out!!!

gbsrnumber5
10-20-2006, 11:12 AM
Dark Lana = AWESOME, lol. Finally a little bit of her future persona coming out...

PKII
10-20-2006, 12:31 PM
Her "horns" are really starting to grow. ;)


Originally posted by Aloof
I loved Lana's creepy smile! BWAHAHAHA. xD Notice too the "Pink" clothes are gone. Now White and Black. Good and Evil in Lana. :lol:

TampaVille
10-20-2006, 12:34 PM
Originally posted by MBCorp
Are you kidding? Lex has been played by practically everyone on this show. He's totally inept. I can easily see Lana playing Lex and getting one over on him. Heck, a mentally impaired hamster could play this version of Lex Luthor.:p

True, in the past this Lex hasn't quite lived up to his calling. But we're seeing Clark move towards his destiny more this season, and I think we're seeing more of that with Lex also. Look at how he's testing Lana, the same way Lionel always tested him. Plus, that final scene between him and Lionel... he really lived up to the real Lex Luthor there. Heck, that plan was far more complicated than Kevin Spacey's Lex Luthor's plan in Superman Returns.

So I see Lana getting more wrapped up in Lex's world, but I think from now on Lex will be the one in control of his relationships, and Lana likely won't have a clue.

jimmyolsenblues
10-20-2006, 12:39 PM
That is a good point, I also wonder whether the characters are bored playing their characters.
Of course I would love to see this show on forever, but I could imagine they get bored playing the same characters with the same twists over and over.
How much more evil is lana going to get after she is getting tough with scientists, will she start being like anti-clark.
I don't know.
I could imagine Kristen Kurek being tired of plain lana. So if she goes totally Darth Vader it could be cool? Right(I am just trying to be positive in a lana thread, we all do what we can)

AlphaSigmaOne
10-20-2006, 12:42 PM
If so-called “Dark Lana” continues, she WILL be the one to kill Chloe. Al/Miles are trying desperately to play the Elizabethan tragedy here after all. But, here’s to hoping it won’t be before Raya gives her a serious helping of knuckle-sandwich.

Ares
10-20-2006, 01:42 PM
Dark Lana is stupid . Shes trying to hard I couldnt help but laugh at her lastnight . Her stupid nose flairs up. Its just dumb..

bigville
10-20-2006, 01:44 PM
Originally posted by PKII
Her "horns" are really starting to grow. ;)

Notice too the "Pink" clothes are gone. Now White and Black. Good and Evil in Lana. :lol:

Yeah, to be honest I liked her in the bright colored stuff.

Kryptonian-Ronin
10-20-2006, 01:45 PM
Originally posted by AlphaSigmaOne
If so-called “Dark Lana” continues, she WILL be the one to kill Chloe. Al/Miles are trying desperately to play the Elizabethan tragedy here after all. But, here’s to hoping it won’t be before Raya gives her a serious helping of knuckle-sandwich.

there may be somethign there --

Lana uses kryptonite on Raya, perhaps even killing her, making Clark realise its time to whip Lana into orbit.

Pantalaimon
10-20-2006, 03:26 PM
I hoped they would take Lana in this direction.

It's basically the only way her character has a place on the show.

And yes. She and Raya may very well be on a collision course. Interesting...

umm
10-20-2006, 03:41 PM
Originally posted by Pantalaimon
I hoped they would take Lana in this direction.

It's basically the only way her character has a place on the show.

And yes. She and Raya may very well be on a collision course. Interesting...

You are right, the only way she can remain on the show and actually be watchable is if she becomes evil! A direction, which, I am glad to see, the writers have decided to take to an full extent! If they continue this way, by the end of the season Lana will be as evil, manipulative and dark as Lex and Lionel combined, and hopefully there will be a nice fight between her and the good guys!

cyberkrypton
10-20-2006, 03:44 PM
i reallly believe all that evil lana thing doesn't make any sense!!!!
how can some one change from good and innocent to dark and evil just like that ??? i just think it wasn't right.....

umm
10-20-2006, 04:32 PM
Originally posted by cyberkrypton
i reallly believe all that evil lana thing doesn't make any sense!!!!
how can some one change from good and innocent to dark and evil just like that ??? i just think it wasn't right.....

First of all, Lana was never that good or innocent! There was always some latent badness in her, so her being evil now is no surprise!
And secondly, it does make sense, the good Lana would never be able to exist and survive in Lex's world unchanged, and frankly she is too dull to watch, so I say, evil Lana makes perfect sense, as good as sense as the character of Lana will ever come to make, anyway!

chlarkfan333
10-20-2006, 04:43 PM
This is the kind of Lana I could get used to :)

FotW
10-20-2006, 07:44 PM
I think that would be a great disappointment for fans who have been waiting to see Lex become the villain. If Lana becomes as dark as Lex and Lionel combined then she'll be the character who was transformed into the true villain of the story. Then who Lex Luthor supposed to become? Batman? :rolleyes:


Originally posted by umm
You are right, the only way she can remain on the show and actually be watchable is if she becomes evil! A direction, which, I am glad to see, the writers have decided to take to an full extent! If they continue this way, by the end of the season Lana will be as evil, manipulative and dark as Lex and Lionel combined, and hopefully there will be a nice fight between her and the good guys!

superman_115
10-20-2006, 08:27 PM
wow, I am amazed how silly some of you sound. Lana has brainwashed you all, *cries*

I think it is the worst writing of her character so far. I hope Clark knocks her across the other side of Kansas.

BrokenHero
10-20-2006, 08:42 PM
eh, dark lana was interesting. but she's not really dark. lex set it up that way. and u saw how she was breathing heavy before and after. she's just playing. when lex does it, that's who he is.

DPRO2006
10-20-2006, 09:09 PM
Lana's in the dark side now..lol

All about Clark
10-20-2006, 09:09 PM
Originally posted by cyberkrypton
i reallly believe all that evil lana thing doesn't make any sense!!!!
how can some one change from good and innocent to dark and evil just like that ??? i just think it wasn't right.....

Exactly, she was performing Lionel's script. It was an act. She is not evil. Lionel told her how to act to pass the test and to keep him in the loop.

Lana will likely be corrupted in this, but she will not be evil.

Zungas
10-20-2006, 09:34 PM
Hopefully it's all an act to bring Lex down.

InsaneSpike
10-20-2006, 10:19 PM
To quote a line from "Angel" that he said to Wesley: "Wow, you turned evil a LOT faster than I would have thought."

PKII
10-21-2006, 12:51 AM
Originally posted by Zungas
Hopefully it's all an act to bring Lex down. Betcha that is it. An act. See her eyes in the elevator she struggled to say what she did. :lol: Lana is using Lex to gain info about aliens and a Black ship and Dr. Fine and maybe she starting to figure out who Kal El is... ;)

mobiusklein
10-21-2006, 12:56 AM
Then she can move on to Lionel and marry him instead.

Pantalaimon
10-21-2006, 03:51 AM
I wouldn't want to call her evil. I like Dark Lana better. Her intentions are still clearly good: she want to protect the earth from dangerous aliens. The question is how far she will go to do so.

Do the means justify the end?
Oliver thinks so. I believe Lana does as well.

jmf1977
10-21-2006, 03:05 PM
I liked this move by the writers...it gives Lana another dimension. I too think she is playing Lex to get info to a degree. Howver, I do not understand nore can I explain the end scene in Wither. But this gives the Lana character some more depth and makes her more interesting this season. I for one would rather see this side of Lana and its progression this season, than more of SuperChloe always beside Clark, doing some unreal thing to catch the bad guys. Her character is definitely one dimensional. I hope this will bring more focus back onto Clark, Lana and Lex and their development into who each will eventually become.

Kal-ed
10-21-2006, 03:14 PM
SInce when is she so clever and coldblooded??? ah, I didnt like the pink era Lana and i dont like the Black era Lana either, the writers seem incapable of making Lana a decent character slightly ressembleing the Iconic Lana Lang. This new Lana Luthor is ridiculous and people dont just become masters in the art of intrigue and underground plots, this is ridiculous.

twelfthnight1
10-21-2006, 03:27 PM
I didn't think Lana was "dark" in "Arrow". In her mind, it seemed she had to do what she did: Lex. He is the reason why she bluffed her way through Lionel's conversation and her encounter with Groll. I loved it when he said, "I never had anyone try to protect me like that." It's true; Lex hasn't had anyone stand up for him, look out for him. Now he does. What Lana did in "Arrow", she did so for a good reason.


Do the means justify the end?
Oliver thinks so. I believe Lana does as well.
Pantalaimon, that's exactly how I saw her actions as well. She had convinced herself it was the only way, to make sure Groll wouldn't give in to Lionel. But how else to do so?

She was nervous before she started talking to him, and she was still getting over it when she got to the mansion. She wasn't comfortable with what she did, but yes, she felt she had to. WRT the black box and Lex asking her if she feared what he'd do with it, she said, "No. I believe in you". It was clear Lana felt he would do good with it, and if the alternative was to have it fall in the wrong hands, she probably felt it was OK to do whatever it took to make sure that it didn't.

Also, I really felt what she did was a bluff. Yes it was blackmail, but she had no way of following through with it. Does that make her right? No. But the reason for her actions must be taken into consideration and it wasn't a dark one. It was because she felt it was the only way to protect Lex. That's not dark, though I know her actions were somewhat gray in the eppy. Not in regards to Lex though

I think "ends justifying the means" also explains Lex's test. He needed to be sure of what Lana felt for him and so, he put forth this test. Does that make his test OK? Probably not, but he's been so disappointed before by so many people close to him. I can understand him needing just one more proof that Lana wasn't going to turn on him, and she passed. And she went one step further and told him everything she knew, trusting in him to do what was right. I thought their scenes were amazing!

I read at IGN, that their story is like a beautiful work of art taking shape. I've seen that in them from go and I'm just so happy they are now being given the chance even more so, to build and strengthen.

myankskent
10-21-2006, 03:29 PM
Originally posted by Kal-ed
SInce when is she so clever and coldblooded??? ah, I didnt like the pink era Lana and i dont like the Black era Lana either, the writers seem incapable of making Lana a decent character slightly ressembleing the Iconic Lana Lang. This new Lana Luthor is ridiculous and people dont just become masters in the art of intrigue and underground plots, this is ridiculous.

I have to agree with this. They really lightswitched Lana into being this sneaky girl in Arrow. I'm all for seeing Lana involved in an intriguing storyline rather than watching the same old crap, but when it's lightswitched over, it just seems out of place.

I also want to point out that Lana still conveniently thinks that Lionel is the bad guy so she is taking Lex's side over Lionels. That's not exactly evil right there given the fact that Lionel has been proven to be an evil person right from the beginning of this show. Lana was essentially trying to beat Lionel at his own game in her mind.

umm
10-21-2006, 03:33 PM
Originally posted by twelfthnight1
I think "ends justifying the means" also explains Lex's test. He needed to be sure of what Lana felt for him and so, he put forth this test. Does that make his test OK? Probably not, but he's been so disappointed before by so many people close to him. I can understand him needing just one more proof that Lana was going to not turn on him, and she passed. And she went one step further and told him everything she knew, trusting in him to do what was right. I thought their scenes were awesome.


Bo ho, cry me a river!:o Poor little Lex, well sorry Lex you get no pitty from this end! No matter how many times you vere disappointed, that still doesn't justify the test you had Lana go through!
As for Lana, well the fact, that she even came up with that particular threat, irrelevant of how valid her reasons may have been in her eyes, shows that she isn't the innocent little duckling she once was!

Dark Knight23
10-21-2006, 03:40 PM
Originally posted by tokenblackguy
Imo lana is still cheesy and overated and outdated. Lex laid his royal jules down to lana and now she lost her mind. Is lex's evil an STD? If so I think Lana caught it. Episode was overall pretty hot though with the whole I would hide sarcasm living with a pretty girl too. I think it was funny because both of them looked at eachother like something was there. Clois all the way.

Lex's evil an STD that was pretty funny.

umm
10-21-2006, 03:58 PM
Originally posted by InsaneSpike
To quote a line from "Angel" that he said to Wesley: "Wow, you turned evil a LOT faster than I would have thought."

You are forgetting one very important thing! That was in season 5, and Wesley, my good old Wesley, never turned evil, he just pretended so that he could get to a top level member of the 'Black Thorn Circle' and kill him!
Lana on the other hand is slowly crossing over to the dark side!

Rift
10-21-2006, 10:47 PM
So, Lana is either:

1. Developing a truly wicked side, if not down-right Evil.
2. Actually pulling a double bluff on Lex...while sleeping with him.
3. Is so pathetically desperate for affection that she will do anything to protect her new ship.
4. Is truly so scared of the potential threat of alien super-beings that she now believes the end justifies the means.
5. Secretly possessed by Zod--hidden cross dressing ambiguously gay alien perverts are cool.

I'd have done a separate poll, but I feared the Hand of Mod.

InsaneSpike
10-21-2006, 11:03 PM
Originally posted by umm
You are forgetting one very important thing! That was in season 5, and Wesley, my good old Wesley, never turned evil, he just pretended so that he could get to a top level member of the 'Black Thorn Circle' and kill him!
Lana on the other hand is slowly crossing over to the dark side!

I wasn't actually comparing it to the situation in "Angel", just using the line as what was going on. Heck, when I first watched that scene, the exact thought that ran through my head was literally "Wow, she turned evil a lot faster than I would have thought". Thus the comparison :lol:

smallville_fetish
10-21-2006, 11:13 PM
Lana is great in this season so far, IMO. (maybe except one incident which I hope will unfoil itself); whatever her intention is, to protect Lex or not, test or no test, for the first time Lana is attempting to take control of her own life. She's not rolling over to play helpless and waiting for someone (Clark) to save nor is she sitting around feeling sorry for herself (about her dead parents, FOTW, Clark's secrets/lies, relationships, etc.) It's a character in the making/development and whether it's bad or good... this sort of change for Lana, if not any change, is REFRESHING. I don't care what anyone thinks, I love this season so far :)

STFanatic
10-21-2006, 11:50 PM
Originally posted by Son of Kal-El20
Finally, Lex is going to have an evil side kick girl. After two movies of having his side women turn on him, he's finally going to have a diabolical one.

Why did the image of a dark haired "Mini-Me" pop in my head?

:p
:rotfl:

Veiled threats, dark plans no scars on her hand.
Something is definitely up with this girl. (And it is about time too)
I just don't want to see her in the cheerleader outfit next week if they pull some kind of reboot.

Pantalaimon
10-22-2006, 07:42 AM
Do the means justify the end?

Just noticed something is wrong with my previous post. :o

jimmyolsenblues
10-22-2006, 07:46 AM
Lets just hope lex shoots clark and lana is killed by a stray bullet.

smallvilleobsessor17
10-23-2006, 02:08 PM
Sounds good to me. :)

mobiusklein
10-23-2006, 02:49 PM
How about she becomes Darth Lana and she ends up in a body suit with a respirator after she and Clark fight in the middle of a volcano?

Sun City Rocker
10-23-2006, 08:38 PM
Just for fun, wouldnt it be something to see this new darker lana, take on Chloe, or Lois in a fight. She would easily kick their ******. But if she faced Clark for whatever reason, you can say adios to her. LOL. sounds stupid.