Loved it? Hated it? Tell us what you think!

[shy175223]

After the episode say what your opinion is right here.

[superhippie2000]

o it was great there was music and costumes and stuff and people did stuff the coolest part was the part when that guy almost died. but i hated that lana did something stupid yet agian.

[shy175223]

:confused: :\ :lol: :rotfl:

[STFanatic]

I like it when people do stuff.
Or when stuff happens, then people do stuff.

[HowardFilms]

What the hell? Still no sign of Shelby, the story arc from Zod has been thrown out, and where the hell are Jonathan and Pete?

I think Jon, Pete, and Shelby will all return in "Justice" to exact revenge on AlMiles...

[Kalel x2x2]

was it what you expected it to be?

[F-Stop Blues]

itll just be merged.

[shy175223]

ya think?

[superhippie2000]

ummm u do know mr kent is dead right?

[shy175223]

whom are talking to me or Howard Films?

[superhippie2000]

Originally posted by shy175223
excuse me there is already a thread on this.http://www.kryptonsite.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=62608


hey no need to be mad at him it didnt know. there are so may threads for this episode he probably couldnt find it lol:eek: :lol:

[superhippie2000]

howard i think you just posted while i was typing.

[shy175223]

oh okay cool. ;)

[Kalel x2x2]

Originally posted by shy175223
excuse me there is already a thread on this.http://www.kryptonsite.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=62608


im sorry=/ , thanks for explaining superhippie ;)

[shy175223]

so far so good.

[superhippie2000]

ya and clark getting hurt by thorns wonder if this is kryptonite effected or something else.

[shy175223]

or probably something else.

[therip]

i'm sorry, but so far this is the lamest thing i've ever seen, AND the effects are crap...great start to season six with 3 consecutively bad episodes..oh, and jimmy...thought i'd like the character, but too many characters to follow story-wise

[superhippie2000]

wow the first phantom zone escapee episode no more fotw yay. finally so,meone for clark to put in a good fight for.

[shy175223]

awsome wasn't it.

[Luthor5339]

wow. Really good episode- in my opinion. Never saw that Phantom Zone twist coming!!! Thought she was just a freak of the week.

[Kalel x2x2]

well everyone is open to there opinions ;)

[superhippie2000]

i think now that is a phantom zone escapee it makes the episode a bit better. and she seems like she is not from krypton but from another planet

[nsuck1]

Thus far... all i can say is WTF?????? This episode is nuts! I almost can't watch any more or my head will explode. I seriously believe that Jimmy Olsen should have never gotten involved in this. His character sucks.

[superhippie2000]

i think they way they got rid of the villian sucked it happened way to fast and wasnt a big enough fight. still like how the villian was an escapee tho.

[F-Stop Blues]

I actually like Jimmy alot. Im glad that Chloe has finally found someone.

[superhippie2000]

i think parts were ok and parts were lame. just a semi filler episode but atleast the ophantom zone and zod was mentioned. not great not bad just one of those episodes that will be forgotten by the end of the season

[gj430]

i thought ok. I think the fight was a little too short though. I thought it was crazy when GA shot the tab on the can though.

[Shadowlord367]

I definately ship Lollie. and it wasnt that great up until after the commercial break with Clark getting hurt by thorns. Ill analyze it more on a rewatch

[smallvillecrazygurl04]

I loved tonights Episode. It was everything I expected.

I loved tonight's episode, It's everything I expected

[Shadowlord367]

I think Arrow and Reunion will rock the house though.

[coasterprincess]

Overall I was pretty happy with it. I don't know how well Jimmy will fit in overall with the rest of the season, but I love his character. He was just so sweet in a kind of old-fashioned way. If they don't screw it up by putting to much emphasis on him (or bringing him into the story in a really bad way) they might have something there.
I was much more pleased with GA this week. I like how JH is pulling off the whole "you really want to hit me...but you know you like me anyway" attitude. Another one that if brought in with the storyline in a good way could make the season really awesome.

[Man of Steels45x]

thought it was pretty good besides the fact lex and lana get together. Kinda felt bad for clark though cause he is moping and all alone LOL and everyone else has someone. Think everything else was good though. Must say though I don't think he is feeling good about being a hero anymore, saving lives without and credit and he loses his girlfriend and best friend. Can't wait till next week though cause Clak and green arrow have their showdown which will end with them as probablly friends and joining together. Afterall, smallville is so predictable.

[Shadowlord367]

Yeah, I think maybe next week they should toggle back and forth between the recurring ships, as HA and JO arent recurring, have one episode featuring Lollie, and some Climmy.

[Colossal]

The trailer for next's week episode for Green Arrow full out splash.

[cayayofm]

Lame plot, but everything else was good. For the first time in a while I liked Lex. He told Clark that he was not welcome anymore. Told Lana that her issues were with Clark and he won't take the blame for him. At the end he and Lana looked lovely, he looked vulnerable and I really felt that he is in love with Lana. I don't know why so many fans hate this ship, I will admit, this is the first time they had chemestry as lovers, but I always thought that this pairing would had been something natural to happen, Lex gives Lana everything she needs emotionally that she never got from Clark. This really could be an interesting story if the witters handle them right. I thought that Jimmy and Chloe were too fast, but they were entertaining to watch. I liked how Oliver let Lois go at the end.

[Back2UICollide]

I liked it. Some actual continuity. . . as in the intern comment, Zod, PZ. . . but I think my favorite part was the end with Clark. The only other time I remember him doing that was when Alicia died. So it's kinda nice to see that then he felt he had no one and tonight at the end it reflected on it. I like it.

[STFanatic]

After the episode thoughts.
Ummm..
Ummm....
Glad I recorded it, it went by so fast I must have missed something.

Effects 3 out of 5
Story - 3 out of 5
Costumes and setting - 4 out of 5
At least we got to see another alien.

[bad3appels]

a lot of people hated this episode

[F-Stop Blues]

Lana dressed as Cleopatra.

[Moonshayde]

I really felt the title of this episode suited the episode. Meh.

It bored me. I've never been so bored by a Smallville episode before. Gloria's defeat was anticlimatic. There was barely a plot. And it focused way way too much on the relationships. I don't care if that was the point of the episode. It was really weak.

And whoa, bad special effects. I wonder if they used the entire budget on Zod.

Anyway, there were some good moments. Chloe and Jimmy rock. Talk about chemistry. I was so surprised at how much I loved their scenes. Then again, I think AM has chemistry with everyone.

And whether Clark feels anything for Chloe or not, it was very adult of him to let her be happy with a guy she obviously has feelings for :)

Oliver and Lois aren't bad. And the Clark and Lex scene was fantastic.

Nice touch to make Gloria from the Phantom Zone.

And I am not anti-Lexana. I thouht it was fine until they disrobed at the end.

Last shot of Clark? Beautiful.

But I'm afarid that not even the bright spots could save this one for me :(

[gbrewer83]

Bad plot, bad special effects, bad lexana, bad whenever Lana is shown, bad writing, and overall a very bad episode. TW better complain and get his show back on him fufilling his destiny.

[Rosey]

TPTB think that they've got too many viewers.
They're trying to get rid of me with Lexana and a wuss Clark. :p
So are we going to get Phantom Zone criminals as FoTWs now?

Lollie was OK.

[Kara15]

This episode was okay... Nothing really that special.

The Chimmy scenes were adorable! It's nice to see Chloe so happy! :) They make a really cute couple.

LOVED the Lollie. GA seems like a really interesting character. I thought it was great how he already had Lois's costume ready before she came. :lol:

Now, I am a Lexana shipper, and I liked their last scene, but it felt kind of like a lightswitch to me. Lana was unhappy with Lex in all of Sneeze and the whole first part of this episode, then she decides to have sex with him? It doesn't make sense to me at all.

I was kind of rolling my eyes at the beginning when Gloria was introduced because I thought she was just another meteor freak. But I admit I was pretty surprised when she ended up being an escaped Phantom zone prisoner. Even so, she died WAY too quickly... I was hoping that there'd be a decent fight scene or something when she was revealed as a PZ prisoner, but all we get is Clark using heat vision, and she's gone. :rolleyes:

Another thing I disliked was the ending.. I hate seeing Clark sitting around sad like that.

I still think they should have made the Premiere an arc instead of fixing everything in one episode. It would be A LOT better than a bunch of fillers like this one.

6.5/10

[ImInVinceible]

Ok now that im through VOMITING I think I can post. The ONE(1) and only ONE entertaining moment in the entire episode was the scene where OQ shoots the tab off the can. I'm sorry to say, but the rest of it was complete garbage. Grossly underdeveloped plot, weak and unconvincing resolution, and just in general horrible writing. I was gagging through the whole thing. The entire episode seemed to revolve around shallow teeny bopper sex scenes and completely unrelated pop culture. For example the entirely out of place AAR song..!? I'm a big fan really but the song just didn't fit. You can't just toss in this song or that song because its high up on the charts and you can't out of nowhere decide to make Lex's mansion the new Talon. It quite simply DOES NOT WORK and it'll have a harder time flying than good old CK. Since when does Lex wear costumes from ToysRus? I mean seriously am I alone on this? And don't even get me started on the claymation "special" effects. They were about as "special" as my nine year old sister's art projects. What happened to character development, and plot development? What happened to a story with a twist here and there? What happened those moments that gave you goosebumps just watching. What happened to the quality remake of the legendary American classic we used to call Smallville? I honestly feel that if the higher ups are all out of ideas and good (heck even decent) TV, they should just cut their losses, end the series and go out with some dignity at least. It's really sad that something that was once so good(for fantasy drama at least) has become such a poor excuse for whatever you choose to call it. Bottom line after watching "Whither" I am thoroughly ashamed to call myself a Smallville fan. I don't know if anyone with any sway is reading this but if you're hearing me you've got some serious re-evaluating to do.

[Damali]

I liked tonight's episode, special effects aside.

[warriorrenegade]

What the hell was that? I mean honestly this episode ranks up there with Ageless as one of the worst episodes ever. I hated it.The PZ escapee was lame, the story was lame and was just really boring. Though it had few moments that made me laugh but just wasn't enough to save it for me

I got a kick out of Lois and Olivers first meeting. Lois just brushing him off as just a courier was comical. One of the few bright spots in this episode. It'll be somewhat interesting how this relationship will playout over the coming episodes. They seem to have just a physical attraction and nothing more.

Lex and Lana just doesn't work. Its like they keep showing them together in hopes that we'll see how great it is. Problem is its not working. We saw Clark with his hangups and Lana calling him on them, but that ran its course. Now it seems they've just rebooted it and reversed it with Lana with the hang ups and Lex is calling her on it. I seen that story already. The writers ran it into the ground and killed it, we don't need to rehash it with diffrent players.

Was it me or did Clark come off like a complete dunce? I mean come. I know Superman is supposed to be diplomatic and solve problems before getting physical. Clark just forgot the physical part. He let the badguy get the upper hand, its like he forgot he had super powers. And what a weak way of defeating an alien lifeform. It being electricuted was stupid. How about incinerating the thing , or have Clark freeze it with his superbreath. No we get Chloe coming in and using a stun gun and saving the day. Also that final showdown was over before it started. I mean come on I don't even think it was 30sec. long.

[emeraldlabyrinth]

Originally posted by Kara15
This episode was okay... Nothing really that special.

The Chimmy scenes were adorable! It's nice to see Chloe so happy! :) They make a really cute couple.

LOVED the Lollie. GA seems like a really interesting character. I thought it was great how he already had Lois's costume ready before she came. :lol:

Now, I am a Lexana shipper, and I liked their last scene, but it felt kind of like a lightswitch to me. Lana was unhappy with Lex in all of Sneeze and the whole first part of this episode, then she decides to have sex with him? It doesn't make sense to me at all.

I was kind of rolling my eyes at the beginning when Gloria was introduced because I thought she was just another meteor freak. But I admit I was pretty surprised when she ended up being an escaped Phantom zone prisoner. Even so, she died WAY too quickly... I was hoping that there'd be a decent fight scene or something when she was revealed as a PZ prisoner, but all we get is Clark using heat vision, and she's gone. :rolleyes:

Another thing I disliked was the ending.. I hate seeing Clark sitting around sad like that.

I still think they should have made the Premiere an arc instead of fixing everything in one episode. It would be A LOT better than a bunch of fillers like this one.

6.5/10

well, ill agree that it was sad to see Clark sitting around while everyone else had dates and how he killed that vine lady was a but too quick and pointless.

BUT i enjoyed the show very much and though it was cute the relationships going on...except for lex/lana, umm. idk if i can get over the fact that their hooking up.

[lilkoolmaria]

I thought it was great. Not spectacular or anything, but still pretty good.

[Brainiac_13]

...would be deleted by the fascist sycophants for describing acts of cartoon violence perpetrated upon idiot writers, so...

TONED DOWN REMARKS, EP 6.3 VOL I

How many flavors of awful are there, and can they all be crammed into one script without destroying Western civilization? This is the philosophical quandary faced by our writing committee for this episode.

It was a daunting challenge, even for people as extremely untalented as the Smallville staff, but they decided to go for it, because a six-pack of Molsen was on the line.

Some fool cranked up the Emo and another fool passed out the random writing snacks and a really ugly fat guy leaned back in his chair and started imagining: Just what form of pure, unadulterated mental retardation might have been contained in the phantom zone?

Consider this... There's a chick who can... like... summon vines and... plant seeds in people. She's assumed the role of a park ranger, but by no means make it obvious that she's the bad guy when we introduce her character, OK? Make sure that doesn't happen. We'd hate to be accused of being predictable.

The plant chick can hurt Clark because she's from another planet even though there's absolutely no precedent for this anywhere in the history of Superman.

Kryptonite. Magic. And germs and stuff from space in general. What? Superman doesn't have to be exactly invincible to be Super, does he? Make a note: Might want to add in bullets, fists and stern insults to the list of things that can kill Clark in future episodes. We've really got to show the audience that we're moving away from the Kryptonite episodes and branching out into new territory.

Yeah. Oh, and all her vines are female like she is, so she just kills other women and plants her seeds in the males because... it's a plant thing. Then they sprout out of the male bodies and do... er... well, skip that because nobody will ask the question.

And the vines have a weakness! Yeah! Er... Electricity. What? What do you mean, 'how will anybody possibly accidentally discover the vulnerability and why not just have Clark use heat vision on the vines'?

Seriously, people. Can we think [finger quote] outside the box [/finger quote] for one moment please? OK, here's the deal. They find a victim, take him to the hospital and let the vines bust out of his chest all Alien style and fill up the room like in Jumanji. Man, I love Jumanji. Tee hee! That boy had a monkey tail!

Ahem. So like, one of the vines sticks itself into a power socket while Chloe happens to be standing there. Problem solved.

So then, we have the plant chick blurt out some sort of environmentalist wacko statement, and then she can impale Clark in a throwback to season one - something for the fans - and then she'll... er... run off to Lex's party. Obviously, plant chicks fresh out of the phantom zone will know about Lex's parties. I mean, duh. He's Lex Luthor.

Chloe used to have a taser, so she'll obviously have it with her at all times. She can find Clark and use the taser to free him from the vines. Her non-lethal taser will kill an enormous vine structure in spite of the fact that it has less charge than the full blast of a hospital's wall sockets, which only killed off a five-inch segment of vine.

Clark will risk being observed once again in the Luthor greenhouse to confront the plant chick, who will smack Clark around and then choke him. THEN he can use his heat vision - See? Doubters? Heat vision. He'll use his heat vision, but in an unexpected way, right? He won't blast the plant chick or the vines, but the sprinkler system that will cause an electrical chain reaction in spite of the fact that it's a well-insulated, regularly hydraded greenhouse. This electrical reaction will cause bolts of lightning to specifically target and destroy the plant chick.

Also, Lana will pretend she's not a slut for the first part of the episode, pretend to be a girl with a dilemma in the middle and then just get naked at the end because as we all know, Lana *is* a slut after all.

Lex won't do anything other than resemble bald one-dimensional furniture. Maybe he'll get mad or frustrated and say a couple of one-liners. Just get an intern to pull some up from the Lex database. We'll C+P them into the final draft.

Oh yes: Lois, Martha, Green arrow and Jimmy. Ummmm. OK, Green Arrow will wander around doing nothing. More total screen time than Zod, but he'll still just prance about like a hard-on who's addicted to teeth whiteners. He'll take his shirt off, and Lois will hook up with him, as per Erica's contract. As you may recall, Lois must find every new male powered figure sexually attractive, yet remain at sexual odds with Superman himself, because statistics have shown that the audience doesn't find this annoying in any possible way. In fact, fans apparently demand this more often than they demand to hear the phrase "The Days of ------ doing ------ are over" and even more than they demand that a main character be caught in the act of spying/snooping by the worst possible character. Better throw all of those in, as a matter of fact, just to be safe.

So, Martha will continue to pretend like she's an actual state senator in spite of the fact that we have no idea what that actually means. Let's see... Jimmy will... get romantic with Chloe. Make sure the sound guys kick up the volume on the kissing sound effects just in case people are eating dinner while watching. Then... Maybe Jimmy will take some pictures. He does that, right? Then... Well... OK, so Jimmy gets nearly killed by the plant chick so that we don't have to write any meaningful dialog for him the rest of the episode.

The end.

I think the goal is accomplished. Pass the freakin' lager.

[bad3appels]

Lana is not a slut..sleeping with yourboyfriend is not being a slut :lol:

[ImInVinceible]

Originally posted by warriorrenegade
Was it me or did Clark come off like a complete dunce? I mean come. I know Superman is supposed to be diplomatic and solve problems before getting physical. Clark just forgot the physical part. He let the badguy get the upper hand, its like he forgot he had super powers. And what a weak way of defeating an alien lifeform. It being electricuted was stupid. How about incinerating the thing , or have Clark freeze it with his superbreath. No we get Chloe coming in and using a stun gun and saving the day. Also that final showdown was over before it started. I mean come on I don't even think it was 30sec. long.

Thank You! Finally someone with a real opinion.

[milton fine]

never mind my cable came back on when it just started, anyway great episode,did gloria die or did she go in side the light?,oh and lex and lana knockin boots both sexy and weird, green arrow was cool i like how he spoke to lex,oh and lois one word clevege (is that how you spell it?)she was hot

[Brainiac_13]

Oh, she's definitely a slut. No doubt about it. And, she's also... not so fresh, if you know what I mean.

[thehenry89]

read the rant sorta agree but you forgot the lame car commercial in the middle of the chimmey make out sceen.

[jazzylg]

And I thought I was pissed about the episode!

[Brainiac_13]

Originally posted by thehenry89
read the rant sorta agree but you forgot the lame car commercial in the middle of the chimmey make out sceen.

I must have repressed that somehow. Sadly, I recorded it, so I will undoubtedly watch it again and notice it at that time. ;)

[buddy232]

I agree the Lexana sex will ruin the show along with Lana's character. Her great friend Chloe talked her into it. I'm done with Smallville. I can't believe I have wasted 5 years watching a show that is ruining all of its characters and turned into a soap opera. Clark's character is worst than Lana's. Clark is barely on the show and when he is he is weak and/or stupid and must be saved for Chloe.

[muffinpeddler]

First off, I found this very funny! Nice rant! I have to agree with most of it, now that it's been pointed out.

[Khyla]

I got quite a kick out of your rant :lol:

very whitty. You're probably a better writer than they are too! :)

[xionice]

This episode was simply abysmal! The only thing good in this episode was Green Arrow, and he was barely in it! That was not a Phantom Zone escapee, just a freak of the week with a gimmicky name, and at that a poor man's Poison Ivy!!! Jimmy? Why is he even here? They did nothing with him! He's like Pete, but white and not cool! Why is Clark acting like Spiderman? Superman does not mope and pout, he does not KILL!!! He does not need Chloe to solve a problem for him, and he doesn't get knocked out like a punk. Lexana... its bs! We lost the Duke for this???? I think this whole time Jor-El was trying to save Clark from the woman that is a vampire, a witch, an angel/wh*re, and a general b!ch! Seriously, I love Smallville, but this episode... they didn't even try! At least last seasons 3rd episode had one of my favorite moments of Smallville ever: THE NUKE JUMP! But here, we get EVIL DEAD f/x (not special) and utter crap. "Arrow" next week should put it back on track, but if this is the third episode in and it sucks, what does that hold for this season? I am immensly geeked for "JUSTICE" but right now, it's hard to look that far ahead. I am immensly disappointed.

[RRayeW]

I loved it! :)

[muffinpeddler]

I'd say a third of us would be better writers than SV's staff.:rolleyes:

[loistickyfingerz]

I thought this was a breath of fresh air. This episode was way better than last week, that's for sure.

I'm so glad I avoid most spoilers because I think they really ruin the viewing experience sometimes.

I thought it flowed well, was entertaining, and stuck to the important storyline without neglecting the other. I sense a lot more continuity and plants for future shows these days and I really, really like that. It's a major improvment.

[thehenry89]

the writers this year are awful. poision ivy ripoff anyone...anyone.

[buddy232]

The show is over! I can't help but wonder if everyone associated with this show is just waiting patiently for it to end, with the possible exception of Allison, who seems to be the real hero they want to write about. There is no excitement exhibited by anyone. I think that Al/Miles have moved on. They don't want to be bothered with truly telling the story of Clark Kent. They keep bringing in other heroes, hoping it bring in the audience. I'm sure they are much more focused on heroes than Smallville.

The main three characters have become people we no longer recognize. Clark, worst of all, has become a weak, frightened shell of who he was in the start of the show. As a matter of fact, everyone is so flawed, that we don't care about them anymore. Lana, poor Lana. I can't even imagine how Kristin must cringe every time she reads her next script. I bet, if there is a way, she will leave this show before the end of it.

Lex is supposed to be evil not a lover acting like a pedophile or sympathetic idiot. Stop making him the hero, he is not. I am sick of the villain getting everything he wants, especially Lana. We all know Lex has always wanted her, the pedophile. To have Lana reciprocate is too painful to watch. There are some messed up scenarios that just shouldn't happen. Lana Lang ever choosing Lex is one of them.

The fact is, they were on the right path, and left it. Now it's our turn. Watch, or don't watch. This is not the same show we fell in love with, so if you choose to watch, be prepared to be disappointed. The path you choose is up to you.

[paolinki25]

I agree. Come on, she's not a slut. She slept with her boyfriend. Nothing slutty about that.

[buddy232]

The show is over! I can't help but wonder if everyone associated with this show is just waiting patiently for it to end, with the possible exception of Allison, who seems to be the real hero they want to write about. There is no excitement exhibited by anyone. I think that Al/Miles have moved on. They don't want to be bothered with truly telling the story of Clark Kent. They keep bringing in other heroes, hoping it bring in the audience. I'm sure they are much more focused on heroes than Smallville.

The main three characters have become people we no longer recognize. Clark, worst of all, has become a weak, frightened shell of who he was in the start of the show. As a matter of fact, everyone is so flawed, that we don't care about them anymore. Lana, poor Lana. I can't even imagine how Kristin must cringe every time she reads her next script. I bet, if there is a way, she will leave this show before the end of it.

Lex is supposed to be evil not a lover acting like a pedophile or sympathetic idiot. Stop making him the hero, he is not. I am sick of the villain getting everything he wants, especially Lana. We all know Lex has always wanted her, the pedophile. To have Lana reciprocate is too painful to watch. There are some messed up scenarios that just shouldn't happen. Lana Lang ever choosing Lex is one of them.

The fact is, they were on the right path, and left it. Now it's our turn. Watch, or don't watch. This is not the same show we fell in love with, so if you choose to watch, be prepared to be disappointed. The path you choose is up to you.

[STFanatic]

My daughter (eleven year old) was watching the part of the episode, where Clark was tied and impaled in the tree, she said to me, "He is supposed to be Superman right?", "So why don't he break the tree limbs & vines?".
I told her five simple words as an answer.
"Cause it is Smallville, that's why."
I am glad I didn't let her watch the whole episode.

[Shadowlord367]

Guys. They are inching closer towards superman everyday. I mean bringing in the heroes, forming the justice league. Chloe wont be around forever. Superman dont have a sidekick. The lexana at the end, without giving away spoilers, will set up the drive for the second half of the season. These past two episodes weren't quite Mortal or Hidden, but give the season time to play everything out.

And did you see that Clark and Lex thing in the greenhouse? It was cool. And would you wanna go back to the Chloe that whines from s3?

[8SMALLFAN8]

Personally, (putting my sad Clark/Chlark feelings aside) I loved it. On so many levels...

Hope they continue on with the same path... :p

[jazzylg]

It looks like the only way to save the show is:RED KRYPTONITE it seems to be the only time clark gets a pair of balls to use, and not just mope around the barn playing with em'!
Smallville is in danger of losing its loyal fans with this crap. I didn't get a dvr for this!

[Shadowlord367]

I actually was happy lana's gettign independent and knowing what she wants. Di dyou see that scene in the talon?

[tokenblackguy]

I am not going to say I will stop watching smallville cause I am not going to lie, but I will admit Lana getting with Lex then Sleeping with him was lets say a little xtreme. It took clark 5 years to get it in with Lana. It took lex a few months. Idk but lexana is NOOB. Wheres Pete he would know what to do

[clarksmuse]

Overall, I was pleased with this episode. Aside from the Lexana sex, which I can't think about without twitching... *twitch twitch* ...I enjoyed seeing the relationship blossom between Chloe and Jimmy. Jimmy is just CUTE. And very possessive of Chloe, which I think she likes...

And I can't believe I'm gonna say this, but I actually liked Lois and Oliver! I'm very curious to see what's going to happen between these two.

Again, I saw a more mature Clark, not brooding over Lana, more amused by Chloe's infatuation with Jimmy than jealous... not hesitating to do what he needs to do to get the job done. I hope I see more of the Clark I've seen since the start of the season. This wasn't the best episode I've seen, but it was good. :D

[paolinki25]

Originally posted by Shadowlord367
I actually was happy lana's gettign independent and knowing what she wants. Di dyou see that scene in the talon?

Yeah, I agree. That was a good scene

[ginnyfan]

Originally posted by lilkoolmaria
I thought it was great. Not spectacular or anything, but still pretty good.

This is what I thought too. I can't stop admiring the High Definition... I'm like a baby with a shiny object. LOL! It was just complete eye candy.

The things I liked:

Chimmy. The Vancouver woods. I had wonderful X-files flashbacks when Jimmy and Chloe were investigating. Lex confronting Lana. Lana claiming her mistakes and fears. Lollie. Lana's entrance at the costume party. Clark and Phantom Zone Freak of the Weak having an alien heart to heart. Clark and Lex hating each other's guts. Chloe "paddles" Jimmy. Lana grows fins and jumps into...Lex's arms... Oliver misses...almost. Clark plays with his ball. LOL! :D

Things I didn't like...
Phantom-Zone-Escapee-of-the-Week. I ALMOST rolled my eyes. But then she had a cool alien chat with Clark and I enjoyed her.
I don't get why Clark was so into her when he first met her though... ???


Originally posted by Damali
I liked tonight's episode, special effects aside.

Amen to that! The cartoon vines were ridiculously funny!!! LOL! Not when they were going down Jimmy's throat but...

The classic Smallville super-fast ending. It's goofy but funny. ZZZZZTTTT! She's dust!

Yeah. I enjoyed this episode! IMO three hits no misses. So far this season :)

[tmkfan]

lana being INDEPENDENT?! Did you get the whole freaking point of her having sex with Lex?! She only did it cuz she didnt want to lose him as pathetic as it sounds!! She came to Chloe for advice just like she did with Jason! did she ask her any advice when she slept with Clark?! no she didnt!

gah anyone thinks what lana did tonight was right is seriously nuts, she didnt do it cuz she wanted to, she did it cuz shes trying to keep lex since hes so freaking "honest" with her

[VisionGirl]

That was a pretty fricken awesome breakdown, Brainiac 13.

ETA: Why are people latching on to the one-sentence Lana blurb?
This summary was dead on.

[Dania]

Originally posted by Shadowlord367
The lexana at the end, without giving away spoilers, will set up the drive for the second half of the season.




**Spoiler**












Please don't tell me you mean the whole Lexana baby thing?
Because if the season's going to concentrate on that then it'll be a nightmare. You'd never think it was a story about Superman with all the romance/triangles and now babies. (well one baby but still) :(
I was looking forward to what they meant about the secrets being revealed in Hydro that the second half of the season will be all about. I really hope it's not the baby.

Sorry. I haven't seen the episode but I just had to comment on that.

[squall7]

Ending ticked me off....shes kryptonian..she should of put up a bigger fight then that. Meteor freaks who know nothing about their powers have beat up Clark worse. Hell...non meteor freaks have beaten up Clark worse.

But it was a good episode , Im not too big on sex scenes, this was the first one with Lex (aside from Bound), but since it had Lana in it too it kind of made me want to vomit. I dont know why. I mean...think back to 1st season...Lana was 14...Lex was practically an adult. Still bothers me.

Hmmm....OQ has went up in my book. Great scene with the Arrow...favorite scene of the episode.

Chloe and Jimmy...how depressing. I loved Chloe because she never really had a serious relationship....aside from her love for Clark, Ive always seen her as a non drama character...but now she is involved. I do think Jimmy is a dork though....hahaha best line "Your my girl right?" He is trying to act big and bad in front of Clark, but his insecurities always tackle him in the end....Jimmy Olsen heh.

No Lionel and not enough Martha....I was sad by that.

It was good...not great by any means. Clark learned Superbreath last episode...didnt bother to use it the episode after...they better not wait too long...we might forget he learned it.

[AndiGirl]

I have to agree with the Jimmy/Chloe makeout! haha....the sound effects were over the top. At times they wouldn't even be touching and you could hear the spit sounds...and Chloe moaning. It was very over the top.

[SmallvilleFan2001]

Originally posted by tmkfan
lana being INDEPENDENT?! Did you get the whole freaking point of her having sex with Lex?! She only did it cuz she didnt want to lose him as pathetic as it sounds!! She came to Chloe for advice just like she did with Jason! did she ask her any advice when she slept with Clark?! no she didnt!

gah anyone thinks what lana did tonight was right is seriously nuts, she didnt do it cuz she wanted to, she did it cuz shes trying to keep lex since hes so freaking "honest" with her


Exactly, she didn't know what to do and went to Chloe for advice. Chloe gave her the best advise she could and Lana just went with it. She hasn't decided anything and will be in an even worse position when SH** hits the fan in a few episodes. She will end up doubting herself more than before because the idea that she is taking "independent" steps and "trusting herself" is just a guise.

[smallvillereporter27]

I enjoyed this episode, but it had some flaws and some pointless things going on. I didn't really enjoy the freak of the week part (though I am glad they updated them from meteor freaks to phantom zone escapees) and it was just bleh.
The rest of the episode seemed to be focusing on establishing the ships that we are going to see through out the season. I don't mind the ships, but the only problem is Clark seems to be in three different love triangles at once and it's pretty ridiculus. For one, he shouldn't even be in the Lex-Lana-Clark triangle. Clana is over and done. As for the other two, the writers need to pick one or else it's going to come across that Clark likes both Chloe and Lois which would be pretty selfish and lame. Triangles aside, I really like the ships this season. Chloe and Jimmy are really adorable and I enjoyed their scenes together. I also liked Lois and Oliver together. Lexana...erm...
Well, overall this episode was ok. Nothing really special or anything. Poor Clark at the end...I felt sorry for the guy.
I give the episode a 7/10

[Khyla]

I got the impression that they must have cut scenes and rushed through stuff.

[manofstevie]

I would rather get drink my own pee then watch this episode again. I defended lana for the first three four seasons but i know a whore when i see one. Lets start a pool on who she's gonna do next. Any takers? This epsiode was funny for a bit but it wasn't worth it. What happened to this show?

There's my rant......i feel better. Really =)

[moviefan2k4]

OK, that was disgusting; most of the episode and manofstevie's initial comment. Count 'em, alright?

1) Chloe & Jimmy
2) Lex & Lana
3) Lois & Mr. Clean...er, Queen.
4) Lionel & Martha

Ther are way too many soapy pairings in this episode, and for that matter, some of the past shows too. The milestone of Chloe's appeal was that she wasn't sleeping around. Jimmy's back in town for a month or so, after being away from Chloe for 2 years...then in an instant, she practically jumps him in the car? WTH is up with that?

And puh-leeze don't get me started on lana & Lex...can anyone just say "eeeeeww!" Lana has spent most of the series pining after Clark, and then to top it all off, she sleeps with Lex? That is so messed up...

Lionel was notably absent, and Martha had maybe 2 or 3 scenes. The only pairing that I actually respected was between Lois and Mr. Sharpshooter, since they are clearly light-years away from the proverbial "sack", as it were. Next week's ep willl have to be 5000% better for me to regain my fan status...this one was even worse than "Magnetic".

[kuang]

I think wither is a good episode...get me strong impression.
I like the thread of season 6

[STRANGELIFE]

Crap Show.. They setup the Phantom Zone plot to have more people for Clark to fight in upcoming episodes. Knowing that these episodes have to go through 50 some odd people before they get approved - You'd think someone would say - THIS FREAKIN' SUCKS>> And does anyone think Chloe would choose Jimmy over Superman? I mean come on.. The writing flip flops around, and it's a jumbled mess. Characters are introduced purely for ratings, and the stories suffer. I don't think Smallville can ever rebound. It's obvious they're trying to save money on the production. The FX are way down in quality. What happened to Marsters? Gone? Totally written out of the show. What a freakin' mess..

[ChaaBreh]

The Phantom Zone had criminals from the "28 known galaxies", not just Krypton. The FOTW wasn't from Krypton.

I wish they had shown Clark realizing that perhaps others had escaped as well when he did.

I'm waiting for Clark to realize he has feelings for Lois. That may bring the show back around.

Lex and Lana -ugh! I'm not a CLana shipper by any means, but....I just don't see the two of them together. I really hope that if they have a baby angle, they're going to throw it out the window and go in another direction. The show is about Clark becoming Superman.

In the latest Superman comics, Lana Lang, formerly the first lady after Peter Ross became President after Luthor was thrown out of office, becomes CEO of LexCorp. Other than that, there is no connection between Lex and Lana. Lex was always attracted to Lois Lane.....not Lana.

Oh well...better luck next week!

[SuperFan85]

What I liked in this episode is how authorative I guess you could say, Clark's voice sounded. Like he was really taking charge in certain scenes with the tone of his voice...very hero-like. like the scene where he asked the paramedic if he could identify the body in the bag, when Clark demanded for Gloria to go back to where she came from, and his final confrontation with her where he's like, "You can't go back home, and I can't let you stay...what do we do about this..." I dunno, it sounded as though he's becoming more Superman-like IMO. Also, I think IMO this season is starting to seem more light-hearted than Season 5, which was pretty dark. Alot of comedy and heart in this episode. Very good acting too, especially on Rosenbaums part; luved him where he told Clark to leave his property, and where he put Lana in her place. Pretty cool to also see Lex at the ball as Alexander the Great. Did anyone else notice the brief moment in the episode at the beginning where Lex is on the phone with I guess it was a scientist, telling him to inform him of what the black ship device is?

[sassy_reporter]

I really liked the first half, and it was funny, and I loved the Clark/Lex confrontation in the green house. The dialogue was witty and the freak of the week thing pretty creepy! After clark got speared by the plant though, I thought it went downhill. It felt rushed, Ithink and I'm not sure it was necessary to have that long of a lana/lex sex scene. I don't know, I think after the middle it was just weak whether it was rushed or just the length of all the ending relationship content...something about the pacing was off.

[seraphim]

All I can say is I hope next week's episode is better.

[Brainiac_13]

I don't think Lex is quite a child molester. There's only about a 4-year age difference, right? She's 19, he's 23, something like that.

[thehenry89]

yeah but he's had those feelings for years. at least since season 2 possibley even 1.

[Yuui]

I am not liking this actor as Ollie, as the actor has not a drop of charisma or... emotion. I thoroughly enjoyed the cleavage provided by this episode ("Wither"), and the goriness increasing with every episode (Lana's hand, Roots through Chest, etc.).

Decent episode, but it felt like filler.

[Spirit Detective]

Justin Hartley played a better performance in this episode than in Sneeze. Clark learns of the Phantom Zone escapees, his relationship with Lex dissolves, and he accepts "Chimmy". Good episode dispite the absence of Lionel and Lexana sex at end. The ending was kind of sad though with Clark doing a repeat of throwing the ball just as he did in "Pariah".

[mariolegosu]

Originally posted by Brainiac_13
I don't think Lex is quite a child molester. There's only about a 4-year age difference, right? She's 19, he's 23, something like that.
I think Lex is currently 26 or 27. He was 9 nine years old in 1989.

[future-reporter]

lana was acting pretty slutty,i mean she looked like she was about to jump him at the part-e

[PKII]

Well at least the worst episode of the year is over. :\

[Kal EL2380]

I think everyone is just pissed that the show didnt go the way you wanted it to. This is someone elses story, so getting upset doesnt help. It just causes stress. Yes i find it a little creapy that Lex and Lana are together, but its not my story. So I can either choose not to watch or just go along for the ride. As for Clark being upset. I believe Jor-El said it best, "The lessons that we learn from pain are what make us the strongest". He has to go through this to realize there are more important things to do right now than sitting around moping over a girl. Everyone on this board Complains that he isnt like Superman. How can he embrace his destiny if hes crying over some chick that is obsessed with people keeping secrets from her. Yes it seems the show is going in a different direction. They probably ended the Brainiac storyline, because Marsters didnt want to join the cast of Smallville perminatly. Relax, comic books are just like this. One week Superman is fighting a red eyed bounty hunter, and the next hes getting married to Lois. Man I ranted a lot.

I am sorry if i offended anyone, but this is just my opinion.

[Lostfan588]

i thought this episode was...ok...but not great.

i dont know i really wish sv could go back to the way it was in the first 3 or 4 seasons with less focus on triangles all the time and more excitement. the only really interesting part of this episode was the chlarkimmy interaction. i think they are setting up that triangle very well so far...

chimmy is very cute but yeah it was a little weird how after not seeing each other for two years chloe just jumps him in the car lol. but yeah clark and chloe both officially still have feelings for each other...chloe j doesnt realize how clark feels but if she knew i bet chimmy would be out the door iin an instant.

i think the sexana scene officially cemented lanas role as whore of the smallville universe...yeah he's her bf so what? they havent been going out that long and she basically tries to do it with every guy she lays hands on. although i will say lexana is not half as annoying as clana was.

well...if the rumors are true lanas probably the one to get pregnant sometime this season....doesnt it kinda seem like "lexmas" is beginning to unfold in a slightly distorted way? anyone? someone else mentioned this in another thread that, well we see a kent is still senator nowits just that its martha not jonathon, lex and lana are a couple-though not quite in the happy marriage relationship we saw (yet? i dont know) and it is appearing very likely they will have a child, now it will be lionel rather than lex to give chloe the expose on luthorcorp for her book, we are seeing settup for a future chlark relationship much like what was portrayed in lexmas. (any why wasnt chloes name mentioned at all when we see her w clark? and where was lois in this future?)....i dont know just speculating its interesting to think about.


ok the fight between clark and plant girl was pretty lame i thought... i dont really get exactly what he did that killed her..but i guess i am kinda slow at these things LOL.

i liked the chlarkimmy investigating...this episode had some good humor in it.

Lollie was adorable. hahaha and damn Green Arrow gots sum nice abs!wow

umm and that ending...i felt so bad for clark...poor guy...he need sum lovin...i dont like mopey clark. :(

...and where the heck was Lionel??!

[Red K 5]

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: Clark got beat by a girl and Chloe had to save him:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: ... even though the bad guy was defeated way too easily it was a pretty good episode... I liked when Clark got impaled

[Brainiac_13]

Originally posted by Kal EL2380
I think everyone is just pissed that the show didnt go the way you wanted it to. This is someone elses story, so getting upset doesnt help.


1. Folks around here tend to mistake energetic rants with extreme emotion.

2. The way I want the story to go is whichever direction 'high quality' is presently located. There's a BIIIIG difference between 'oh no! characters are doing things that shock me!' and 'oh no, somebody hired mongoloids to write this episode...'

3. Somebody's got to say something, otherwise, other folks will think they should just keep doing what they're doing the way they're doing it.

[PKII]

What would Clark do without Chloe? I know Lana wouldn't have been out in the woods looking for him. :lol:

[RMF]

The second disappointing episode in a row. It was nice that kudzu girl was a PZ escapee, and I liked her alien-to-alien confrontation with Clark, but otherwise the FOTW was pretty bad. No explanation why she looks like a human if she's a vine, bad special effects, and killing the vines with a teeny little stun gun didn't make any sense. It's not as if I can go out in the yard and kill my grapevine with a stun gun. And the ending with Chloe zapping Jimmy to save him? Painfully dumb. She probably would have stopped his heart.

Chloe and Jimmy were okay, but a bit rushed. The opening was only the second scene we've seen with them, and what started out kind of cute seemed forced when she swooped in and kissed him. We know almost nothing about their relationship, so it's kind of hard to appreciate that moment. As for Jimmy being "adorable" as advertised? Not really living up to expectation. I just wanted to hand him a valium in the hospital scene. Clark does seem to be hurt by their getting together, but he covered it quickly, so it appears this triangle lives another episode.

I thought Lois and Oliver had more chemistry, although OQ is kind of a d*ck. He was arrogant in asking her to the ball and having her costume already made, and the line he delivered to Lex in his own home was completely tasteless. Hartley's performance as OQ was more successful than last week, but at times the lines they're giving him seemed over-elaborate and incongrous coming from him.

The fact that the FOTW was so weak kind of hurt Clark in this episode. It appeared they were saving money and didn't want him to make use of his powers (notice how in the woods he peers for several seconds before brief X-ray effect actually kicks in), and that made him at times ineffectual. They also didn't think through the ending, because he basically killed her, whether he intended to or not.

I had mixed feelings about the confrontation between Clark and Lex. I was glad to see them finally interact, but they barely scratched the surface. Maybe Clark was paranoid in suspecting Lex had something to do with the vines, but in any other episode, his suspicions would have proved correct, so it felt kind of arbitrary that they didn't. And Clark? The pink princess looks like she fits in just fine in Lex's world. :rolleyes:

And *sigh* Lexana. Way too much catering to Lana in this episode. "Your skin is even more radiant than it looks in the pictures"? Oh, WTF. *gag* She tries her passive-aggressive BS on Lex, and he calls her on it, but I'm sure this won't be the last of the "Clark's ghost" stuff. She makes a token effort to own up to her bad decisions and insecurity (which will be forgotten next week) and is inexplicably advised by Chloe to just jump in to her relationship with Lex. Talk about your WTF moments. Isn't Chloe the same person who last season warned Lana off Lex and threatened Lex if he harmed Lana? Why on earth would she give Lana this kind of advice now? Then we top if off with Lana's "runway" scene when everyting stops, and Lex gawks at her like he's never seen a pretty woman before. Hah. At least the Sexana was mercifully brief.

Next week's episode looks much more promising. Back to heroes and action and so forth. And GA gets tossed across the room. :)

[hassenmorad]

Great rant Braniac 13. Your points are spot on. Storylines like these make me wonder why I even like Smallville, because they're so predictable and lack the depth that great shows like Lost and Heroes have. I just hope we can see some better episodes in the future, with the same quality as season 5's Hidden- I miss eps. like that.

[love_smallville]

RMF, you pretty much summed it up.

The last scene had me nearly in tears seeing Clark bouncing that ball...poor guy!

[Sparrow]

I loved it. Things are moving.

I liked the music scene at the ball with Lex and Lana. I had missed the musical moments smallville always has.

[hassenmorad]

Originally posted by Colossal
The trailer for next's week episode for Green Arrow full out splash.

Agreed. Wither was pretty bad, but next week's ep. looks great. I can't wait to see the interaction between Oliver and Clark.

[Spirit Detective]

Wither was slightly betterthan Sneeze.

[Spirit Detective]

No Lionel and Clark saying Jor-El is gone made this episode less enjoyable.

[Nospam]

I don't why I didn't like Wither. It's hard to put my finger on it, but the weak battle between Clark and Gloria was part of it and so was the seemingly endless romantic plots that played out during the episode. I did enjoy the numerous character interactions and the Clark/Chloe/Jimmy Scoobying, but the episode just felt flat. Definitely needed some Lionel, although there really wasn't a place for him in this episode.

[hassenmorad]

10= Excellent 1= Awful

How do you rate this episode? I was pretty disappointed, and rate it at about a 7. Just hoping to finally see a good ep. this season, because it's all been poor IMO.

[GabbieW]

I really enjoyed this episode, i `m a chlarker but i have to accept that i did like the Jimmy and Chloe ship (they were adorable) but honestly i don`t like it to last long!! i loved Clark and Lex scene they had a great interaction... i wasn`t a great fan of the lexana thing but i have to admit that the showed great chemistry at the end of the epi and Lex really seem to be in love with her. Clark seemed to be weak but more mature at the same time... and the last scene with Clark all alone mmm...

[smallvillerocks45]

That was a funny rant! I kinda liked the episode, but I thought there was a lot of "dead air". I mean, did anyone notice Lex's slow motion double take when Lana walked into the ball room? I can understand the double take - he didn't expect her to show - but why slow motion? How about the little conversation Lana had with Lex, after they're done talking, we see them turn and walk towards the center of the room - okay, that's fine...then suddenly, we get an overhead shot of them still walking...what's the deal, did they have so little dialogue and/or story that they had to draw scenes out and make them longer than necessary? Maybe it's just me, but I didn't like that.

[All about Clark]

Wither was definitely flat and a disappointment to me, I felt Zod was great, Sneeze was good, but Wither, at the bottom.

My only favorite scene was Chloe saving Clark and telling she can't lose him twice. That showed she cares deeply for him.

[thedarknight]

Lana is a f'ing slut, I definately agree with you there. Lex is a manipulative b'tard, and she says she knows Lex. He has a history and she knows.

I can't wait till she gets burned in the end.

[Nospam]

Originally posted by All about Clark
My only favorite scene was Chloe saving Clark and telling she can't lose him twice. That showed she cares deeply for him.

Notice that Hidden and Wither are both the third episode of their respective seasons. And you are so right that Chloe cares deeply for Clark. She shows it in so many ways, but so does Clark care for Chloe, although he is such a dunderhead it's not obvious at times.

[TheOriginalKal-el]

The only good thing about this episode to me? The fact that it's over.

[TheOriginalKal-el]

Originally posted by tokenblackguy
I am not going to say I will stop watching smallville cause I am not going to lie, but I will admit Lana getting with Lex then Sleeping with him was lets say a little xtreme. It took clark 5 years to get it in with Lana. It took lex a few months. Idk but lexana is NOOB.

Exactly. Was it just me or did everyone look bored in this episode?

[TheOriginalKal-el]

RMF, I concur on all fronts.

[Son of Kal-El20]

The people that made this episode a winner were Clark, Chloe, and Jimmy. Their side of the story was great. At first I thought this episode was going to be the usual FotW thing. But it did something different: it stuck to continuety. The revelation of where the FotW came from surprised me. Really it did.

That's what made this episode better than most FotW eps. Instead of this female being the typical kryptonite infected mutant, she was in fact an alien from another planet other than Krypton and she had been emprisoned inside the Phantom Zone. It was cool watching Clark take on another extraterrestrial. In fact, this makes me excited to see what will be the next alien villian.

Speaking of Clark, he was awesome in this. He's starting to use intelligence in beating these enemies and I'm loving it. I also liked his dialogue in this and I thought Welling did a superbe acting job.

Chloe and Jimmy were cool. I'm not sure what I think of them as a couple yet. I have to see them together in more episodes to make a judgement. But overall, those two were great in this episode.

Now here comes the flaws of episode. The couples. Green Arrow is actually a pretty cool character but him and Lois together just makes me gag. And Lexana.....omg. This is awful. Lex has been reduced from a great, interesting character to some lovesick idiot who's only purpose on the show is to be in love with Lana. And Lana is even more pointless. Both Lex and Lana just took up unnecessary screen time and sadly, so did Lois and GA. Just watching either Lex and Lana get all mushy or lois and Green Arrow made me role my eyes.

Everytime those couples came on the screen, I kept saying to myself 'who cares!?'. I don't care about GA and Lex all lovesick and crap over two gals. I want to see more Clark and this situation with the released alien convicts. And I'm actually glad Clark isn't with a girl. He doesn't need to get sucked into this soap operish web. I'm glad he's alone and beginning his journey in becoming the franchise character that he really is.

I swear, I'd take more minutes of watching Clark thinking to himself or even doing some job hunting than seeing those two couples on the screen.

But luckily, the good scenes were so great that they outweighed the bad scenes. So all in all, I give 'Wither' a 9/10.

[ChuckZod]

Lana isn't a slut for sleeping with Lex given that they are dating. She's just a hideous waste of screen time and oxygen. I put the mute on her last scene with Lex just so I didn't have to hear her attempts at being "sexy." Though as much as I am no fan of Lexana copulating, I'd rather see that then another angry Clana scene. I need those like I need hemroids.

Lois on the other hand is a bit of a globetrotter (been around the globe and back again?) if you know what I mean. Its seems that the Goughlar are obsessed with making her go into slut mode for each and every superpowered male to breeze through Smallville. Anyone wanna bet in the upcoming Justice League episode that Flash, Aquaman, Green Arrow and Cyborg are all gonna play a nice game of "Pass around Lois?"

I did like how this episode addressed Chloe and Lana drifting apart. Though of course instead of asking how Chloe had been and what happened to her friend during Dark Thursday, Princess Lana made it all about her stupid problems with Lex. Ugh, I wish Zod had aimed a little higher and more to the left when he impaled her whiny ass.

Speaking of impaling, notice how Lana's hand is all nice and healed now?

Just out of curiosity, why do people on this forum and the TWoP forums call Lana a squirrel or chipmunk?

[Son of Kal-El20]

Only good thing about this episode was Clark's storyline. I can understand why some would hate this episode because of the couples but not the fight. Everyone was raving over the quick one sided Zod/Clark thing but hated when Clark took down a villian quickly showing that his power is more powerful than some alien's plant ability.

[terk]

she likes nuts? Ok that was inappropriate. I apologize.

[vikingjedi]

I've liked all 3 episodes so far. This one was a little darker but as far as the story goes I liked it. IMO Season 6 has been way better than Season 5 up to this point. JMO.

[don johns]

I can see the more and more of the audience checking out. They have lost the emotional connection to the audience. There is not much that will bring back the audience. They victimization of Lana by Chloe, Clark and Lex is no fun to watch. There is little appeal left of the series.

This is no longer the Smallville that viewers come to support since the pilot. It is really too disgusting to watch the characters being ruined week after week since the last half of Season 5. The series is no longer worth my time. I can't imagine there will be many viewers who have supported the series from the beginning willing to watch how the characters are being ruined weekly. The Lana and Lex storyline is a very sad victimization of a central character. It makes no sense that Clark and Chloe would turn their backs on Lana. Clark is pathetic, Lana is a victim, Chloe is feckless and her cheering Lana to get involve with Lex makes no sense. I am sorry I have supported this show for five years....for what? Smallville was a well written drama for at least 4 and half years. I am done.

[Kii]

I gave it a 7. The teaser was just absolutely horrible, but afterwards it started to pick up. I enjoyed the fact that TPTB added some continuity by making the vine chick a PZ escapee. But..bugged the hell out of me when I saw Lana without a bandage on her hand, oh wells.

[hassenmorad]

^^^ The whole storyline was lame to me, and it seems the writers tried to sneak this poor writing past us by somehow making this chick a phantom, and by not including kryptonite, but I think it's clear that they did not succeed.

[bigv]

I think the writing is getting better- the character development is strong in Clark, Chloe, and Lana. The triangles are a fresh new twist also- its a good combo of old characters changing and developing with new characters entering the story. I was all around positive about it except everything about Gloria was lame.

[Autumn]

Here’s what I honestly think about this episode:

I think it is up there with “Ageless” in being one of the worst episodes of Smallville ever created. There were so many problems with it that I don’t even know where to start. That said; I did like some things about it. But first, the problems:

1) Jimmy and Chloe in the beginning. Okay, what the heck was this opening scene? I felt like I was watching a completely different show than Smallville. Did the writer of this episode know the characters at all? The Chloe and Jimmy kiss was the furthest thing from romantic than I can imagine. No chemistry whatsoever. Suddenly I felt like I was watching the Superman’s version of the OC. I guess they should advertise this as the season of the light switch. Why in the world would Chloe have been so quick to be in a relationship with Jimmy? And the setting? The plot? Yuck!

2) Lois working as chief of staff to Martha Kent and working free-lance for the Inquisitor. There were some implied moments going off with this in the first scene with Oliver and Lois. “Do you want the job?” on the laptop. I support the notion of suspension of disbelief, but this plotline steps over that boundary IMO. In real life, no one could work as chief of staff to a senator (with no college degree mind you), and work for a Tabloid at the same time. Your credibility, as well as the Senator’s would be diminished. Whoever came up with this plot line knows nothing about politics and nothing about journalism.

3) The dialogue: The dialogue in this episode felt really off to me. Almost as if the writer had not watched the previous seasons. I didn’t feel as if the writer(s) knew the characters very well. IE: Lex telling Lana she’s always been too trusting. Um hello? Lana has never been trusting. Oh and what about the line where Lex tells Lana he’d never asked anyone to move in with him before? Uh, what about Helen? It’s not like Lex was just telling a lie to get Lana to sleep with him. Lana KNOWS that Helen lived there. It was just an inconsistency. The writer didn’t do her research. Plus, the usual snappiness of the dialogue seemed to be gone in this episode.

4) The Jimmy and Chloe dynamic: I’m sorry, but their relationship feels forced and not likeable IMO. He was scared to go in the woods for goodness sake. Somehow I don’t see Chloe’s character being attracted to a weenie. She’s saved him at least twice now. Their whole relationship feels very pre-teen and immature. The writers could have made Chloe and Jimmy interesting, but instead they made it soapy and well, just plain dumb and almost un-watchable. I can’t count how many times I cringed in this episode.

5) Clark; I didn’t feel as if he was the main focus in this episode. Actually, I didn’t feel like anyone was. The episode had no direction. I almost felt as if the character of Clark was slipping away. And Oliver Queen was moving in to take his place.

6) Lois and Oliver; The scene when Lois goes to see Oliver at his condo was ridiculous. Don’t get me wrong, I loved Oliver’s interpretation of the character, but I didn’t get why he had already bought her a “gift.” It was like he was already, after a brief minute with her, head over heels. It felt like another light switch, and another moment where Lois uses her body to get something. She went on a date to get Jonathan Kent some air time on television. And she went on a date with Oliver to help out Martha as Senator. I felt there should have been a better build up.

7) The Phantom Zone plant person; And just when I thought FOTW’s were gone! Now, they’re just going to be alien FOTW’s. Plus, she was another predatory female that Clark finds attractive. GAG me with a spoon! I knew she was the villain in the first second she walked on screen. And the whole plant procreating thing? One of the WORST plot lines I have ever heard of. I mean are Al/Miles trying to make the show bad on purpose? And what was with the Jimmy, kind of rape, scene? I laughed at the absurdity of it. I felt like I was watching an Ed Wood film.

8) The costume ball! This could have been great and interesting in so many ways. But it only lasted like two minutes. It felt choppy, forced and wasn’t even a main part of the story. I would have gotten rid of the plant girl, and built a mystery into the ball. Maybe like something is stolen at the benefit. And Chloe and Clark try to figure out who stole it. Or maybe someone gets kidnapped. The ideas are limitless, but they didn’t do ANYTHING with it. They didn’t even have an interesting Lex/Oliver interaction. Lex seemed strangely calm in this episode. Almost out of character. I also would have liked to have seen Clark, Chloe and Lionel at the ball. I kept waiting for Lionel to show up to dance with Martha. Plus, why is it that Chloe never goes to these things? Nor is she ever invited. Do the writers not think she’s good enough to get all dolled up? She wasn’t even invited to Lex’s wedding. It’s starting to grate IMO. The only events I’ve seen her at were at the high school. (And those didn’t turn out so well for her. Also “Thirst,” where she almost gets killed by Lana). Enough already!

9) What was with Clark being stuck in the plant? Why didn’t he break out of it? Does he have another weakness I’m not aware of?

10) The family dynamic is gone. One of the great things about Smallville has been the family dynamic. And this season, with no Jonathan Kent it’s almost as if that dynamic has been completely tossed out the window. A lot of families used to tune in together to watch the show, because they idealized the Kent family. But now, that’s gone. A lot of people accuse the Lexana duo to be the cause of the loss in ratings. But I think it might be more related to the loss of Jonathan Kent. Without him around, a certain magic to the show has been lost. They probably should have waited to kill him off in the last episode of the entire series IMO.

11) The anvils; They were cool in the first few seasons, but now they’re beginning to grate. They’re too over the top now. Instead of believably developing characters, they focus on anvils. They light switch the characters, and try to make their destinies believable by giving them a line out of nowhere hinting toward their future destiny. Please make it stop! (There were a definite few in the mix in this ep)

12) The overall feel of the episode: Basically I felt as if they tried to completely revamp the show, so as to trap new viewers. But I believe this is a huge mistake. What people at the heads of these companies need to realize is that they need to focus on their fan base, and build upon that. I think Dawn Ostroff (head of CW) has no clue what she’s doing. She axes “Everwood” and keeps “Seventh Heaven.” She has shows compete against other shows with similar types of viewers. Plus, she advertises, not what the loyal fans want to see, but what she “thinks” new viewers might want to see. So what does the CW do? They revamp popular shows, thinking that by doing so, they’ll get new viewers. IE: 1) Smallville comes closer to being about Superman without proper development; Lex is almost the villain, Lois is almost with Clark, etc… But what about resolving Chlark? What about developing Lois’s journalist career believably? 2) Gilmore Girls has new writers as well as a new feel. They break up Luke and Lorelai and start a Christopher/Lorelai relationship. The exact opposite of what the fans want to see. 3) Veronica Mars; Instead of having one big mystery, they have a few little ones. The show is still fantastic, but it does feel like something’s missing from it. IMO, I think it’s the big mystery that keeps you tuned in all season. Well anyway, the list could go on. I really think the feel of Smallville has changed, and that to be saved it needs to change back real quickly. It’s okay to grow as a show, but I don’t think it’s okay to become a completely different show, therefore alienating its fans in the process of gaining maybe a few new viewers. Everything about this episode was off. The music, the editing, the sound, the writing, the characterization, the plot line, the colors, the acting, the directing, the cinematography, etc… I felt like I was watching a different show, and a mediocre one at that.

Well okay, now for the positive:

1) Oliver Queen. I loved JH in the role. He’s interesting, mysterious, intriguing, and not to mention easy on the eyes. I did enjoy the scene at the end with Lois and Oliver with the arrow. It was clever. Lois is a lot like me, so I guess I wouldn’t mind being with a guy like that. You see, I do like Lois, just not as “the” Lois. The way she’s developed anyway.

2) Clark and Chloe investigating together. This is always an interesting dynamic, and I like when they work together to solve mysteries. I also liked how Chloe came in to save the day.

3) Lexana; I’ll be honest I enjoyed them in this episode. I really don’t think Lana’s as much of a victim as everyone believes her to be. (See my Lexana is not a lightswitch thread in the spoilers and theories section) My favorite scene in the whole episode was when Lex was dressed in his Alexander the Great costume and Lana was dressed as the queen Cleopatra. I loved the way he looked at her. I thought Lex could have been feistier in this episode. His dialogue was a bit off, but I did like this moment. And I like them together. They have an interesting dynamic. And great chemistry as actors. I also don’t think Lex was giving Lana an ultimatum. I just think he was trying to figure out where they were in the relationship. I think that’s fair enough. Lana can be whiny and she does have issues.

Well, there you have it. My review of “Wither”

[AlwaysAround]

Gotta love that show stopper of an ending.
Clark in the loft brooding. How awesome!

[superman2001]

i thought the Episode was great, can,t wait to see next weeks Episode, it is going to be a good one, i also can,t wait to see Clark meeting Green Arrow for the first time that is going to be great, it,s going to be a great Season.

[iuqiddis]

I feel like this show is going downhill. I mean i thought this episode was better than the first two episodes (mostly because of GA...im curious if they wont ruin his arc), but overall it was still a let down.
I just feel like the writers/ producers aren't paying enough attention to the viewers. The arcs start off with good potential but they are finished abrubtly. Or some thing is brought up in an episode and then completely forgotten (the cameras in lex's mansion perhaps?). And there seems to be an utter lack of continuity. I just feel like they are treating the viewers like idiots.

Coming back to today's episode, its like the Zod thing was a distant memory and has no consequences...life in smallville is back to normal. I mean Clark needs to get more proactive, and start using his brain. And he needs to quit moping around and become a ....hero. If this clark kent is going to be superman, the world would be screwed.

[InLove_with_Chloe]

My first thought after 10-20 minutes was: 'this is a joke, right?' I need some more time to think if I will change my mind now that I've seen the whole thing... Rating: 2.0

[Absolute Kingdom]

Except for Ollie/Lois and Clark/Lex scenes everything was completely ridicilous in this episode.

[InLove_with_Chloe]

Originally posted by Absolute Kingdom
Except for Ollie/Lois and Clark/Lex scenes everything was completely ridicilous in this episode.

I agree.
If Jimmy had said 'she's my girl' one more time, I would have lost it, seriously...

[Absolute Kingdom]

I found that to be odd, because he said it in front of Clark. I guess Jimmy's not the romance kind a guy.

[InLove_with_Chloe]

Originally posted by Autumn
1) Jimmy and Chloe in the beginning. Okay, what the heck was this opening scene? I felt like I was watching a completely different show than Smallville. Did the writer of this episode know the characters at all? The Chloe and Jimmy kiss was the furthest thing from romantic than I can imagine. No chemistry whatsoever. Suddenly I felt like I was watching the Superman’s version of the OC. I guess they should advertise this as the season of the light switch. Why in the world would Chloe have been so quick to be in a relationship with Jimmy? And the setting? The plot? Yuck!

Totally agree. I said many times, last week, that it would be difficult to write Jimmy back into the story, after 'sneeze'. And what did they do?!? You are right, the person who wrote this epissode obviously didn't know what show he/she was working for...

[InLove_with_Chloe]

Originally posted by Absolute Kingdom
I found that to be odd, because he said it in front of Clark. I guess Jimmy's not the romance kind a guy.

The only interesting thing about Jimmy is that he is obviously going to be of the jealous kind ('my girl'). Therefore, Chloe is going to have to decide at some point between being girlfriend or superhero-sidekick...
Let's hope she will take the right decision, either way I sense trouble...

[Absolute Kingdom]

I know what you mean, but from this episode, I got the feeling that Clark is the sidekick, not the other way around :D

[InLove_with_Chloe]

Originally posted by Absolute Kingdom
I know what you mean, but from this episode, I got the feeling that Clark is the sidekick, not the other way around :D

Yeah, when both he and Jimmy were knocked out I was like, OK who is gonna help'em now? <commercial break.> And who comes a runnin'? Chloe. That was super-weak... <sigh.> So much to complain about today...:(

[InLove_with_Chloe]

Originally posted by Brainiac_13
...would be deleted by the fascist sycophants for describing acts of cartoon violence perpetrated upon idiot writers, so...

I sooooooooooo agree with you.
Makes me sad, though...
:(

[Absolute Kingdom]

I think there's so much they can do with the characters, but apparently the writers just can't get enough of sacrificing character development to the plot. The first two episodes were great and I thought this is season is off to a great start, but the last episode installed my old doubts again.

[InLove_with_Chloe]

Originally posted by Absolute Kingdom
I think there's so much they can do with the characters, but apparently the writers just can't get enough of sacrificing character development to the plot. The first two episodes were great and I thought this is season is off to a great start, but the last episode installed my old doubts again.

This episode somehow just didn't seem to fit with the first two, I think...
I was like: where did that one come from?!? I expected more from them, too...

[thmallville]

I would give this disgusting episode a -1000 out of 10, but the lowest option was a 1. UGH!!!!!! I literally almost puked. It was SO bad..

[thmallville]

This was totally the BEST RANT EVER and I agree with you 100%!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[InLove_with_Chloe]

Originally posted by thmallville
I would give this disgusting episode a -1000 out of 10, but the lowest option was a 1. UGH!!!!!! I literally almost puked. It was SO bad..

Let's see the bright side: it can only get better from here...
Yay!!!
:lol:

[azi]

Originally posted by Brainiac_13
I don't think Lex is quite a child molester. There's only about a 4-year age difference, right? She's 19, he's 23, something like that. Lana is 20 and Lex is 25/26. So that’s ok. I remember TB said they were waiting for
the time when “everything” would be legal.


Originally posted by thehenry89
yeah but he's had those feelings for years. at least since season 2 possibley even 1.
He might have like her ( she is beautiful it’s difficult not to see that) but he encouraged Clark to make a right move in season 1 and 2. Even tried to help him. And to be honest he didn’t make a move as long as he was a friend with Clark ( except Onyx but then ,he wasn’t himself).Would he try to steal Lana from Clark if they were still friends ,I honestly don’t know . I think no.

If Lex wasn't on Smallville, Clark and Lana still wouldn't be/end it up together. Clark lost Lana all by himself.
Do I understand the direction the show took? No

Back on topic: the ratings :I’m lost, can't make up my mind.

[superpal1]

The episode tonight was good in my opinion. I thought the first two episodes of Season six were great. This episode seemed like a filler episode to me. I'm not arguing continuity. In my opinion it got that done. I'm not worried about the cameras right now. They are not going to go back to that right away, but it gots things done, such as, letting Clark know that others escaped the Zone with him, hooked up Lexana, and started the Jimmy/Chloe triangle, but it didn't feel cohesive to me. The discovery, encounter, and final fight with the alien felt to rushed, so that everything else could be introduced. I would rate it 6/10.

[earth-2 kal-el]

This was the worst episode i have seen to this point. The villian was HORRIBLE! To think that all powerful Clark couldnt break that vine that was choking him. Yes he was stabbed ok ill give you that, but if you noticed when Chole saved him (like always) his shirt wasnt even ripped but the sence before had a flipping vine stabbed through his stomach. Also the fight sence was again HORRIBLE! 2 little heat blast at the water to get the lights to shock the villian and BOOM shes gone. COME ON SMALLVILLE!

And not to mention that the CGI for the Jimmy Olsen meeting with the villian was WEAK! I thought i was watching the end of Blade 2 or a low budget sci-fi movie.

I voted 1 all the way.

[Memphisreigns]

Brainiac 13, you have just stated everything that I have felt for the past few months. I used to love Smallville and like most of the people on this site used to look forward to the next episode.
Lately I have found myself just watching the show because I have seen every episode so far. It's not something that I enjoy anymore.
The Lana character has me tired. She goes from doubting Lex in the beginning and not trusting him, to being intimate with him after a little pep talk from Chloe. Man, people do move along fast in Smallville. I guess she will have a copy of the tape since Lex films everything in the mansion.
I think Lois has a goal in Smallville, be attracted or get with the whole JLA. First Aquaman, then Green Arrow, who is next......Green Lantern? If the writters have nothing more original to come up with, don't have her in the episode. Her character sucks on the show and besides the cool interaction between her and Clark, her character is pointless.
I feel like with the addition of Oliver Queen/Green Arrow, the show should be renaimed. This show focuses more and more on other characters than on Clark. The main reason why I can't stand this show any longer. Also, can we please get a super powered alien that is not going to be dispatched with some thing as minimal as that. It happened with Zod, the poison Ivy rip-off and it will probably happen with the other Kryptonians. It seems that Clarks powers are less than they are. I was wondering why he didn't use his heat vision in the first place when they were in the woods.
The only light side of this episode was the interaction between Chloe/Jimmy/Clark. That was nice and a much neede help to an episode that was in ways boring. The writters need better ideas or this show will not go beyong this season. I kind of wish this was it. They keep up messing the show up with these pointless episodes that focus away from the development Clark (which is what the show is supposed to be about).
I think the ratings speak for themselfs. This show has lost a big fan base, including me. Brainiac 13 hit it right in the botton.

These are my feelings and you are intittled to yours. What ever happened to the show that I loved?

[InLove_with_Chloe]

Originally posted by earth-2 kal-el
Yes he was stabbed ok ill give you that, but if you noticed when Chole saved him (like always) his shirt wasnt even ripped but the sence before had a flipping vine stabbed through his stomach.

...just a stupid question: if Clark somehow gets stabbed through the chest, shouldn't he die like everyone else? I mean, usually he's inpenetrable, but there... After all he must have organs in that handsome chest of his. That episode was crap.

[Brainiac_13]

Originally posted by smallvillerocks45
That was a funny rant! I kinda liked the episode, but I thought there was a lot of "dead air". I mean, did anyone notice Lex's slow motion double take when Lana walked into the ball room? I can understand the double take - he didn't expect her to show - but why slow motion? How about the little conversation Lana had with Lex, after they're done talking, we see them turn and walk towards the center of the room - okay, that's fine...then suddenly, we get an overhead shot of them still walking...what's the deal, did they have so little dialogue and/or story that they had to draw scenes out and make them longer than necessary? Maybe it's just me, but I didn't like that.

The best part about that sequence was the alignment of the lyrics the band were singing. As they made soulful eye contact, the lyrics went something like "I look at you with disdain..."

[jimmyolsenblues]

I think its very interesting that a lot of people considered this episode moderate to inferior in quality; ordinary.

I thought the last scene with Clark alone was good, because Clark cannot always be with someone. It has to be lonely at time to be clark. I am sure Clark loves Chloe but I am not 100% is more then just great friends.

Even Superman gets lonely.

[Pantalaimon]

Wasn't his heart. Too much to the right I think.

As for everything else. Are you guys expecting fireworks every episode? So it was plain. You need that sometimes as well.

Besides, I think they're moving the story along quite deftly. No lingering so far.

[kmichals]

I liked the feel of this episode it seemed more focus on the charectors and less on the freak of the week. I liked that. It had more of a feel of a Buffy espiode where they do not get into the villain of the week until later.

The only thing I did not like was the Lex and Lana interaction. It was a little weak weird but for what they wanted to acomplish I not sure what else they could have done.


Am I the only one that likes the Jimmy charector.

[jimmyolsenblues]

Brainiac_13 is an excellent writer , but I do not think it is a bad as awful.
There has to be some filler episodes.
There has to be times when Clark ain't so super.
I have seen worse episodes of smallville trust me.
I would like to less lex/lana time.
I would like to see clark using his brain more.
I would like to see less of a date tv show, smallville does not always have to be the 90120 of Kansas.
But overall this is still my favorite tv show. (csi, monk, rescue me, the shield all in far 2nd place)

[Luthor5339]

8.

Great and interesting character interactions.

Ok- the figh and the villain weren't good. So, lost two points.

But, other than that- I liked the episode and can't find anything wrong with it other than the real lack of action. Everything else though was great.

So, 8/10

Every episode can't be 'fireworks' and looks like next week's episode is going to deliver all the action.

[InLove_with_Chloe]

Originally posted by jimmyolsenblues
Even Superman gets lonely.

Yes. Only when alone he is, then grow he will... In fact, I thought that his lonelines was going to be the theme of S6.
Instead we got 3 triangles...

[bad3appels]

the best thing about this episode was OLIVERR :lol:

[InLove_with_Chloe]

Originally posted by jimmyolsenblues

I have seen worse episodes of smallville

Really?
Which ones? I would be curious...
I pretty much hated 'wither'...

[jimmyolsenblues]

Really?
Which ones? I would be curious...
I pretty much hated 'wither'..

Anyone where lana is a witch
Anyone where lana talks to her father.
Anyone where lana is on screen a lot.
Okay, I lost my own argument. I know.
But I did like the scenes with Clark.

[vouge09]

Also, Lana will pretend she's not a slut for the first part of the episode, pretend to be a girl with a dilemma in the middle and then just get naked at the end because as we all know, Lana *is* a slut after all.

ahahhahahahaha Thats funny stuff!!!!

I have to say this is by far the most boring season I have watched yet. I think worse than season 4. All the storylines are all talk talk talk nothin goes on but the same old, ( Lana whining , chloe doing things for clark then clark taking the credit later, lois hooking up with the futre hero, martha being too busy to talk to clark...)

. Hey is it just me or did lionel ever show up in the episode?


Originally posted by jimmyolsenblues
Anyone where lana is a witch
Anyone where lana talks to her father.
Anyone where lana is on screen a lot.
Okay, I lost my own argument. I know.
But I did like the scenes with Clark.

I liked spell, i thought it was funny , that they put lana in the name I have been calling her for years only with a B .

what about the one where the guy was trying to shoot lana and she like runs around forveer screaming, where clark got the phone call in the futrure or something? I hated that one;

[Krypton935]

I thought it was good except the fight at the end should have been longer.

[AshyLarry]

This episode was great just for that Lex/Clark moment in the Luthor greenhouse! By the way, Lana is a total whore. How come it takes Clark 5 years to seal the deal with her, but it only takes Lex like 6 episodes?

[InLove_with_Chloe]

Originally posted by AshyLarry
This episode was great just for that Lex/Clark moment in the Luthor greenhouse! By the way, Lana is a total whore. How come it takes Clark 5 years to seal the deal with her, but it only takes Lex like 6 episodes?

Because 'his evil plan' has worked perfectly. He even said it himself...
And Clark, well he's a little slow in the lady's department, no?

[udtiger]

Disjointed at best. Did like the PZ twist. 3.5 out of 5. Sort of like a TV dinner...you are satisfied after you eat it, but it was nothing special.

As an aside, you'd have to think there's some pretty high turnover among the medical staff at Smallvile Medical Center. All the freaky things that happen there would clerly lead to some stress.

[aft06]

Seriously why do some of you people even watch this show?

Anyhow I liked this episode. The only thing I didn't like was the the final fight between Clark and Gloria was about as lame as the fight in the Pilot episode.

A big focus of this episode was on the three relationships but this served a big purpose and that was to show how Clark is learning that being a hero has a price.

Clark kills the alien that was on her way to kill everybody at that party and nobody knows about it and he ends up alone at the end.

This episode was filler in some ways but in others it serves to further Clark's development along this season.

Clark knows now that other people made it out of the P.Z. with him and we'll see what he plans on doing about now.

[tw190]

I voted 7.

[earth-2 kal-el]

Originally posted by InLove_with_Chloe
...just a stupid question: if Clark somehow gets stabbed through the chest, shouldn't he die like everyone else? I mean, usually he's inpenetrable, but there... After all he must have organs in that handsome chest of his. That episode was crap.


I think he should die. And come to think about it how was that vine even able to stab THE MAN OF STEEL!

[TheOriginalKal-el]

Brainaic13 - If I were wearing a cap, I'd doff it. I couldn't have phrased better what you had said. It's funny because episodes like yesterday have me wondering why I still watch this garbage. So, I come on here to get it out of my system and discover somoeone already has. Nice to not be alone so to speak.

I hestitate to offer this theory on the Smallville universe, and if it's already been mentioned, I haven't seen the thread. But given TPTB's love of super hero guest stars and basic abuse of the mythology(other than the bloody anvils) perhaps their ending will be completely different. For some reason, I can see Lana never breaking up with Lex; never learning his secret; them raising a family or their definition of one and Clark forever moping in his barn watching the young super hero guest stars save the world.

[Fly by guy]

I recorded the show so My favorite part was where I fast forward thru Lexana and immediately erased the episode after the previews for next week.
While ABC is showing McDreamy and McSteamy, we get McBaldy and McWoody. I find the Arrow nearly impossible to watch.
This weeks freak was lame. Clark letting her get the drop on him Twice was laughable and having Chloe save him AGAIN is beyond repetitive. Fans should be screaming for her to don the tights and cape.
0 of 5 stars. Wither is a synonym for SV ratings.

Strap my stupid butt to a table beside Lex and let them run a 24/7 Ageless and Thirst marathon. :\

[chlarkfan333]

This episode falls into the 'BLAH!' category for me. Boring, poorly developed plot, and disjointed.

[savingpeoplething]

I gave it about a 4...

It had some good parts: the Chlarkimmy, the somewhat jealous Clark, Chloe saving the day...

But, overall, even though I was entertained, it didn't come off to me as a stellar episode.
I've seen better :)

[Fly by guy]

Where is the bagel. I would vote 0 (zero). Maybe Clark should go back to the Zone and hide until they give him something to do that doesn't make him look stupid.

[Billy Jor-El]

I'm in the camp of "I liked it!". Gave it an 8.

Yes, Jimmy with the "my girl" comment got to be a bit much, but I think he'll push that to the point of driving Chloe away anyhow. He's just a diversion in that Clark ain't making any moves on her, and I'm sure she's darn well pleased to have SOMEONE'S attention (hey, she can always park in my roadster up in the hills :D ).

The various romantic threads were OK, and further isolate our BDA to the point where he's becoming more of his own Fortress of Solitude (he's doing it to himself).

The corner that I still see the writers painting themselves into is at what point is the BDA going to actually BECOME Superman? I don't see any of it in Clark, other that the powers, of course. There's none of the mental capacity of the Man Of Steel. I doubt he's going to wake up one morning and say, "damn, I'm really an idiot!"

And those that question the storyline of the vines, I mentioned on another thread that it instantly reminded me of a 1960s ep of The Avengers with Steed & Mrs. Peel (Diana Rigg was so hot then) about a space plant trying to take over the world and enslaving people to do its bidding. So....everything copies from somewhere, I guess, imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

[Red K 5]

I thought it was good exacpt for the lame fight... Clark got beat by a girl twice... good thing he has Chloe and heat vision or he would have died

[smallvillecrazygurl04]

I gave it a 8, because I did like the episode. But I wish there could of been alot more to it.

[Shadowlord367]

Originally posted by Dania
**Spoiler**












Please don't tell me you mean the whole Lexana baby thing?
Because if the season's going to concentrate on that then it'll be a nightmare. You'd never think it was a story about Superman with all the romance/triangles and now babies. (well one baby but still) :(
I was looking forward to what they meant about the secrets being revealed in Hydro that the second half of the season will be all about. I really hope it's not the baby.

Sorry. I haven't seen the episode but I just had to comment on that.

No thats not just it, secret(s) will be revealed. It cant focus on the baby. Lexana has enough attention in the show. Theres somethign bigger Im certain that hasnt been revealed yet.

[shadow4486]

Originally posted by Krypton935
I thought it was good except the fight at the end should have been longer.

I agree the fight should have been longer. And, Yes, the alien got the better of Clark mainly because he has never had to deal with any other alien powers before, not that caused him physical harm sans Kryptonite. He'll live and Learn for the next PZ baddie.

This episode was kinda so-so for me. Reading on here about how Clark is getting less and less face time was on my mind when I watched this episode. but then I thought about past seasons. Clark never really gets that much time. The show is about the relationships. Usually only in the "new Power" episodes does he get time cause they need to utilize their FX budget.

I don't know about anyone else, but I am so psyched about Green Arrow. Didnt' know that much about him before, but I guess it's like my jones for Batman. I like the regular guy with no superpowers but extraordinary abilities. the soda ring stunt was AWESOME!!! I cannot wait till the next episode where his archery abilities are on full display.

I really liked the Jimmy/Chloe interaction. Jimmy is a good comic relief for the show.

Overall, not one of the best episodes of this short lived season, I"m sure there'll be better. I'm just holding my breath for the "Justice" episode. I love the Flash!!!

[Chesay]

While it wasn't one of my favorite episodes, Wither had some interesting moments. Being a Lex fan I absolutely loved the greenhouse scene where he unequivocally told Clark he was no longer welcome. Now I wonder how they will plausibly have future scenes with the two unless something happens to make them need each other enough to put aside their differences and work together.

The Jimmy Olsen character is perfectly cast and I enjoyed seeing the resemblance to what I remember from the comics. I do believe he is visually the closest to the original comic Jimmy than any other actor who has portrayed him. I am mildly troubled by him being a peer of Clark's rather than a protege but I can live with that. He works as Chloe's boyfriend and it is fun to see her have a working relationship with someone instead of pining and wistfully watching other couples.

Even though I am not a Lexana fan, I felt their love scene worked better than the one with Clark and Lana. As usual, I don't think sufficient time was given to develop the relationship and make it believeable, but given the circumstances I thought it was fairly well executed. However, there was an awful flaw in Lex saying he had never asked anyone to move in with him. Does anyone else remember the present of a key to the mansion he gave Helen? Helen also was bothered by the press handling of their relationship which cheapened this Lana and Lex relationship because theirs was not freshly written and unique. He says Lana is different from anyone else he has been involved with and then they let him treat her with less regard than others he has known...poor writing! There is so much gold to work with and the writers seem content with pyrite.

The Green Arrow character is interesting and I like the actor. He seems to be doing better and is not as stilted as he was previously. Perhaps he is getting his stride and will get better as time goes on. Lois being attracted to him makes a nice storyline and utilizes her better than she has been used lately. I didn't think the resolution of the "dilemma" regarding Martha was very well written but it got them where they wanted to go and for Smnallville that is usually all that counts. I would have liked the lights to be up at the party so the costumes could have been appreciated. Was Lex Alexander the Great (probably as it would fit his character) or Anthony for Lana's Cleopatra? I don't know what female equivalent would have gone with Alexander but wonder if Helen of Troy might not have been a better choice, although not as easily recognizeable. It would have been fun if Lex had worn the jeweled breastplate of Alexander that Phelan tried to steal. That would have been continuity to applaud.

Clark isolated and alone with everyone else paired up was most poignant and touching.

Kudzu girl-what a wonderful moniker! Such an inventive way to have a nemesis affected by something other than Kryptonite. I appreciate who said it was a prisoner from one of the other planets because I had had trouble understanding how she could be so easily defeated and why her powers were so restricted to plant systems. Again the time was not available to explore her character very well. How many more of these released spirit forms are there now? Three? I like this inventive writing and feel it shows promise.

Guess I found the episode more entertaining than I tought.

[Nerial]

Didn't like it. There were too many weird things, besides the PZ girl (which felt more like a FOTW than an alien here to destroy mankind). There are only a few of those PZ villains to play with, and I feel like they wasted one here. Points for attempting something w/o kryptonite, but it was the introduction to PZ villains, and that needed more attention than a normal freak.

And, Clark getting stabbed? And, then Chloe has to save him??? How many times is this woman going to save the hero? She's saved him more in the last two seasons than he has her. That's crazy. If something works--great, use it. But don't overdo it. The stabbing was unneccasary, and will not seem as dramatic when it happens for a more important episode. And, Clark should have been able to free himself. He's freakin' Superman (or close to). It's not a kryptonite mine-field; it's greenery.

Oh, and my most-dreaded scene. Clark mopping in the barn with his bouncy-ball. Okay, not a bad scene, except for a minor detail--HE JUST FOUND OUT PZ CRIMINALS ARE ON EARTH!!! Does he run around, looking for more that could have come with him? Does he google headlines for strange activities around the globe? No, he bounces a ball around the barn. Yep, I guess the reactive Clark is back, and the proactive is comatose once again.

Some scenes I liked. Costume balls are always fun. Everyone looked great. Chloe finally getting some action was cool. Jimmy was cute, but I still don't like the idea of him being there.

Overall, it was weird, anit-climatic (oh, Lordy, yes), and a step backwards. They got it right the first two episodes, so here's hoping this was just a clunker and that's it.

Also, who did the promotion for this episode? False advertisement to the core!!! Green Arrow never made an appearance at all.

[newfan251]

Hey - We had bad wether last night and cable was out - I MISSED LAST NIGHT"S EPISODE!!! Please, soemone tell me what happened.

[smallvillecrazygurl04]

Originally posted by Autumn


3)Lexana; I’ll be honest I enjoyed them in this episode. I really don’t think Lana’s as much of a victim as everyone believes her to be. (See my Lexana is not a lightswitch thread in the spoilers and theories section) My favorite scene in the whole episode was when Lex was dressed in his Alexander the Great costume and Lana was dressed as the queen Cleopatra. I loved the way he looked at her. I thought Lex could have been feistier in this episode. His dialogue was a bit off, but I did like this moment. And I like them together. They have an interesting dynamic. And great chemistry as actors. I also don’t think Lex was giving Lana an ultimatum. I just think he was trying to figure out where they were in the relationship. I think that’s fair enough. Lana can be whiny and she does have issues.



I agree 100% with everything you mentioned

[Kryptonian-Ronin]

I would have been much happier if at the end, Clark gets pissed at bouncing the ball, whips it through the barn wall and it goes through Lex's mansion, hits him on the head and knocks him out.

[thehenry89]

Originally posted by ChuckZod


Lois on the other hand is a bit of a globetrotter (been around the globe and back again?) if you know what I mean. Its seems that the Goughlar are obsessed with making her go into slut mode for each and every superpowered male to breeze through Smallville. Anyone wanna bet in the upcoming Justice League episode that Flash, Aquaman, Green Arrow and Cyborg are all gonna play a nice game of "Pass around Lois?"



lois has only been with two guys that doesn't make her a slut. she didn't even sleep with either of them, and i don't think she's gonna sleep with ollie. another thing, lois has no idea that these guys have special abilities so i doubt she's seeking them out becuase of that. maybe (and i know this thought is way out there) she's just lonely and doesn't want to sit at home every saturday night like clark and play with her telescope. she's not a slut and she defintly hasn't been around the globe as far as we know she's only had one sexual relationship like chloe.

[Viking415]

It was really a continuation of the fight they had before where Clark had been dominated by plant-girl. As in, his stomach was impaled by a massive thorny vine. This time, he knew what to do to beat her, and he did it. If he'd sat around wasting his time letting the plant overpower him, he would have been an idiot.

[s-caper]

Originally posted by InLove_with_Chloe
I thought that his lonelines was going to be the theme of S6.
Instead we got 3 triangles...

Ah, but these 2 are intertwined -- Clark's loneliness is hilighted by the 3 triangles. Despite what happens in the future, he currently is the proverbial 5th wheel in each of these relationships -- bringing this out was one of the only redeeming points of this epi. I gave it a 4.

[juicey1]

Okay I gave this episode a 2, I attempted a rewatch, but found myself FF through most of it just due to the fact that I couldn't put myself through the misery twice.

I gave it a 2 because I like Justin Hartley's performance of Ollie Queen and how he totally dissed Lex at his own party. It was for the most part anti climatic as was stated already in other posts.

The hospital scene with the rent an actor nurse was so cheesy I thought well I won't tell you what I thought, oh and what the **** is Chloe doing in the back of an ambulance ok I know smallville stretches but give us a freakin break! So that scene was totally stupid and then some.

The only couple other than Clark and Chloe's few little moments were Lois and Oliver Queen's. I am still trying to wrap my brain around Lex and Lana, but it must be working a little cause it isn't totally grossing me out anymore, maybe cause Lana seems darker and more suited for Lex than she did before.

I hope this is was there crash and burn episode for the year, that way we can get on with better character development and really see where Clark is going this year as far as taking on bigger challenges and becoming the man we all know he will be.



Where was Lionel? I miss Lionel...

[coco#1]

Originally posted by therip
i'm sorry, but so far this is the lamest thing i've ever seen, AND the effects are crap...great start to season six with 3 consecutively bad episodes..oh, and jimmy...thought i'd like the character, but too many characters to follow story-wise

get out:eek: :eek: :rotfl: the first 2 episodes were really good and wither wasent quite as good as those but what was really good was that it seemed to point out just how much lax and clark dont like each other


Originally posted by smallvillecrazygurl04
I loved tonights Episode. It was everything I expected.

I loved tonight's episode, It's everything I expected

THATS BECAUSE SMALLVILLE IS AWESOME :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :lol: :lol: :lol: :eek: :D :D :lol: :rotfl: :lol: :p :p :p :D :eek: :eek: :rotfl: :lol: :rotfl: :cool: :D :p :p :p :)

[Red K 5]

CLARK IS LAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[coco#1]

Originally posted by Fly by guy
I recorded the show so My favorite part was where I fast forward thru Lexana and immediately erased the episode after the previews for next week.
While ABC is showing McDreamy and McSteamy, we get McBaldy and McWoody. I find the Arrow nearly impossible to watch.
This weeks freak was lame. Clark letting her get the drop on him Twice was laughable and having Chloe save him AGAIN is beyond repetitive. Fans should be screaming for her to don the tights and cape.
0 of 5 stars. Wither is a synonym for SV ratings.

Strap my stupid butt to a table beside Lex and let them run a 24/7 Ageless and Thirst marathon. :\

thirst was a great episode, one of my favorites..Kristin Kruek`s performance was perfect. not one flaw in her performance. i loved the way she backed up into the window.

[Crazy4Smallville]

Crazy4Smallville’s Weekly Review – 5:3 Whither


While I probably won’t be listing this episode in my top twenty favorites, I plan on focusing on its positives. I don’t want to whine and groan about how lame the battle was with Ms. Vicious Vine, but come on… I expected a little more than that little whimper. Perhaps that should have been the name of the episode, instead of whither. I suppose they didn’t have enough time to do a good battle scene because they had several minutes to fill with Lex and Lana’s sexcapade.

So, that’s all the ranting I’m going to do… the rest of the review will accentuate the positives… at least TRY to anyway.

I’ll start with Chloe and Jimmy, since that’s where the episode started. While I know that Jimmy and Chloe has had a ‘history’, the chemistry just doesn’t seem to be there. They ‘seemed’ like two high-school kids going on their first ‘parking’ expedition. While, they are a little wet behind the ears – Chloe only having the one experience with Jimmy a few years ago, and never having had a steady boyfriend – I think they could have worked a little more on the awkwardness. Also, the sucking and moaning sounds during the make-out session was a little on the gross side. (Oh darn… and I said I wasn’t going to groan.) On the bright side – I do like the idea of them having a relationship. I just wish they’d be a little more mature about it.

It was great seeing Jimmy with his camera. I like Aaron Ashmore’s portrayal of Jimmy, especially his jealousy and possessiveness. It was a great scene when he called Chloe his ‘girl’ and Chloe corrected him. Seeing the perplexed look on Clark’s face was priceless. Welling really ‘showed’ how conflicted Clark feels about this relationship. He wants to be happy for Chloe, but he also wants to be happy WITH Chloe and thus the conflict.

Clark took some really huge steps when it comes to him ‘getting over’ Lana. While he showed concern for her during his argument with Lex, he didn’t whine about her. He even took interest in Ms. Vicious Vine when he first saw her – showing that the Lana blinders are falling off and that other ‘women’ actually roam the earth (they just don’t all happen to be human.)

Ah, the confrontation with Lex was awesome. It was the best scene in the episode. When Lex told Clark that his days of showing up unannounced were over – I found myself really excited and wanted to scream for Clark to punch him across his nose. I love to hate Lex… and I’m glad Lex is finally giving me the ammunition to do it. Yet, a few scenes later he gives me just the opposite… he makes me hate to love him, but I can’t help it. When he spoke about being young and finding out about his mother’s death from a microphone being shoved in his face by nosy reporters, it broke my heart and I found myself rooting for Lex. Rosenbaum does an excellent job with this character and he doesn’t look back doing it either. That Alexander the Great outfit looked HOT!!!

I loved the whole Lois and Oliver exchange. Her first treating him like a delivery boy, then apologizing, then eating crow, then going out with him…etc. … it was great. When she told him to ‘aim higher’ when he was aiming at the can, that was a very subtle, yet awesome touch… because I think she meant that both physically and metaphorically. Oliver looked good in that green outfit and when he’s pulling back that bow… something changes his appearance and he projects that superhero image. While as plain ol’ billionaire Oliver Queen – he looks a little dorky. But, I think that is what’s going to make his character so great. The super part is played up more than the young rich heir.

Martha looked very beautiful and I loved how she rebuked Lois and her ‘quick to make judgment actions’.

Lana – okay – some of you better copy this review because this will probably be one of only a few times I’m going to say this. I actually liked Lana tonight. I liked the fact that she stood up to Lex about becoming one of his ‘kept women’…. I liked how she tried to come up with an excuse to see Chloe, because it showed that she feels bad about the predicament she’s in and shows a little respect for the position that Chloe’s in, but that she really needed a friend’s advice. Also, Chloe was the one who gave her the advice the first time – when she thought about sleeping with Jason – and now with Lex. I loved her Cleopatra outfit – I thought she looked beautiful. I think has been the strongest showing of Lana’s character. I even liked the fact that she ‘took the lead’ when she decided to be intimate with Lex. I’m one that doesn’t believe in sex outside of marriage, but knowing that’s not her belief, I’m glad to see her taking charge of her own decisions.

I missed seeing Lionel, but I’m sure I’ll see him soon enough.

The whole “Phantom Zone Freak of the Week” plot could have been skipped as far as I’m concerned, so I won’t bother to write about it.

Till next time,
~Crazy4Smallville

[Rozq]

There was ONE time when I had the same feeling like today, that the episode was totally lame. What the hell was that?! Clark super speeds in front of 10 people - twice!. Girl from PZ with some idiot powers. This episode was really stupid. I only enjoyed Lois and Olivier moments. Everything else was just ^$^&#&%$*

;/

[ajfinn]

Absolutely, right. I liked Chloe/Jimmy and that was it!!!!!!!!!!!! The Lexana still has me shaking. I HATED IT!

[superhippie2000]

i think if they fouces more on the phantom zone escapee and less on everyones love life the episode would have been better. i liked how they started using the phantom zone escapees and not fotws. it was also cool how she wasnt from earth or krypton and she was from some other plant life planet. i wish they spent more time explaining that tho cause it would have made the episode better. i liked oliver in it but they didnt need to spend all that time having lois and him fall inlove with each other. i liked the part with the soda can how he just made it look like he missed. the lex and lana stuff was like ok we get it she is going to sleep with him even tho she doesnt trust him. and lana and clark all over agian.

[<<S>>]

One thing that bothers me is the way he is reckless with his powers.. In one of the episodes Lionel caught him on camera using his powers in front of the Alien ship, and than yesterday in the hospital he uses his superspeed, in front of people, and also, what if Lex had video in his greenhouse, and caught clark, and the evil plant lady fighting..

[ShySoul]

The episode wasn't intended to be a blockbuster. It was intended to move the story along casually so we can get to the big events including next weeks Clark/Green Arrow confrontation. The writers have placed much of the emphasis in promos towards the Justice League. This episode fit right in with that. Clark is now separated from everyone he cares about. Lex treated him with contempt in their scene, that relationship is way over. Lana is with Lex, and them sleeping together cements that. Lois has Oliver, Chloe with Jimmy (Was that Clark who saw them in the ambulance?). Even Martha has Lionel. He is basically alone and now finds out he is responsible for unleashing evil criminal aliens on Earth.

Poor guy.

Ultimately Whither was to set up Clarks isolation so that Oliver and the other Justice league guys can fill that spot and convince him that he is not alone and that he should start fighting and becoming the hero he is suppose to be. Clark has shown all of them to stand up for good, now they are going to help him see that again when he feels like no one understands.

Whither isn't going to go down as one of the best, but it served its purpose.

[chloewannabe]

Okay I loved this episode...I personally think it was more than a space filler...I do agree that it did show how Clark is going to have to move on and get over the whole Lana thing.

Another great factor was the coming of age of the Jimmy/Chloe relationship and there attraction towards eachother...which personally I dont think made Clark too happy...

The Lois mistake was funny and classic and loved the whole beginning of the relationship of yet another relationship with a justice league character to be...

One last comment is that I loved the way they picked The all-american rejects new single... It ends tonight to prove once and for all that since Lex and Lana slept together that Clark and Lana are truly over...

Overall loved this episode

[Gothabilly13]

I cannot post my felings on ksite...the langauge is too strong ....if anyone is really interested my rant is on LJ
Please read it only if you can take adult content

http://gothabilly13.livejournal.com/5630.html

But all I will say is...the producers of this crap should hang their heads in shame.....

[chloewannabe]

Originally posted by Red K 5
CLARK IS LAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

if you don't like Clark how can you even like Smallville

[Usaghy_7]

I am new to posting to this forum but I have been an observer lurking the shadows for a while now. Finally decided that it was time to throw my two cents here about this episode:

All in all this was not the best smallville episode I have seen but it still advances the story and I got to see one of my favorites characters ( Chloe) therefore I am happy with it and not utterly disappointed.

I didn't mind the kiss between Chloe and Jimmy because even I have not seen them on screen that much we know from an earlier season and there converstation that these two have done more than kiss in the past - I do think this was the same Jimmy she lost her virginity to, so jumping him and making out with him is like nothing compared to that. He wants to rekindle, she is all for it, as long as they take it slow ( or IMO in her own terms and time)

Information on the baddie of the week was a little rush but I think that she was introduced to advance the story line and remind us that Clark brought back a few nasties with him from the PZ, just in case we had forgotten the lights that had appeared right before his appearance on that field

The Lana and Lex thing did not bother me at all. I don't really think of him a pedophile ( like some have mentioned) he was 21 when she was 14 - now she is a college student possibly in her early 20's he is in his late 20 there is nothing wrong with that and this relationship is the first mature one depicted in the show other than the already adults. For some they still see Lana as the High School girl that Clark but that is no longer the case. So if she decides to sleep with Lex go ahead. I liked that she went for Chloe for advice, I was getting the feeling that they possibly weren't friends anymore and I didn't feel like Chloe told Lana to have sex with Lex but more like there are consequences to anything that you do but you can't let the fear of making the wrong decision or holding out for a future that may not come true guide the rest of your life - I think she was giving an insight on herself - Chloe deciding to pursue dating Jimmy for example was that she was tired for waiting around in hopes that she would be the girl Clark would grow into.

Oliver and Lois were cute - though sometimes her facial expressions did disturb me a little but they were cute.

I thought Martha Looked great though I wish I had seen more of her costumes.

I feel that we have a lot of clues in this episore of things to come hopefully people picked up on them .

Well that was my two cents

[thmallville]

Originally posted by ajfinn
Absolutely, right. I liked Chloe/Jimmy and that was it!!!!!!!!!!!! The Lexana still has me shaking. I HATED IT!

My stomach has been hurting all day, and I'm all nauseous BECUASE OF L****A!!! I am not kidding, it is the only reason! I think I'm allergic. It's so GROSS!!!!! This is one of the suckiest episodes ever, not just because of the L****a but because of the horrendous plot. I wish I had a time machine so I could go back in time and tell myself 2 days ago NOT TO WATCH IT. This sucked beyone belief. I even had a dream last night that I killed myself because of the L****a!!!!! The only thing I liked about it was....... oh wait, nothing.

[silverfist]

It was a great epsiode, I give it 7.

[silverfist]

I fully disagree with topic creator. loved this episode, and thought it was great. Well, sue me. ;)

[thmallville]

Fine!!!!!!!!!! I'm suing you for 1,000,000,000,000 million billion dollars!!!!! :p


Originally posted by ImInVinceible
I was gagging through the whole thing. The entire episode seemed to revolve around shallow teeny bopper sex scenes and completely unrelated pop culture. For example the entirely out of place AAR song..!? I'm a big fan really but the song just didn't fit. You can't just toss in this song or that song because its high up on the charts and you can't out of nowhere decide to make Lex's mansion the new Talon. It quite simply DOES NOT WORK and it'll have a harder time flying than good old CK.

UGH! I know!!!! "It Ends Tonight" could only be meant in one way:

All the love I ever had for the show has ENDED that night. Seriously, L****a sex?!?!? Why don't they just shove an agitated porcupine up all the viewer's asses?! That would be more bearable.

[vyperman7]

Well Wither was not only the weakest episode of the season, but one of the weaker episodes of the series. It didn't really feel like it served that much of a purpose. Once again, the focus seems to be coming back to Lex and Lana, instead of on Clark where it deserves. While it was nice to see a little bit of continuity with Zod, I found the plant girl villain to be boring. It just seems weird to see Chloe with feelings for anyone other than Clark. When she grabbed Jimmy and started kissing him I thought it was because the couple was coming towards the woods. But she was still kissing him when they went into the woods. So I guess it is really legit.

Overall this episode just seemed like a pointless waste.

What did it really accomplish?

- Lex and Lana sleep together
- Lois gets a new love interest
- The Chloe/Jimmy relationship is established

I am hoping next week's episode is better.

[manofsteel30]

This was the most horrible episode of Smallville to date. I ahve no idea why they keep doing stupid things on this show. It had such potential and I still say it can be saved, but not if they keep doing eps like this. It was poorly concieved, poorly written, poorly executed, poorly edited, poorly directed and just downright bad. There were even some bad actors, I mean horrible, at the hospital the nurse who ran out of the room. The effects were abysmal and the whole plant lady storyline was just insane. I would advise people to avoid this episode and just tell them the horrible things that happened between character that will inevitably be revisited in later eps. Lex has NO REASON WHATSOEVER to be interested in Lana. She adds nothing to his life and acts hugely immature and overly nasty to everyone she meets. She's pretty, we get it. Do we really need yet another unknown female character to see her(in the Lex checks out costumes scene) and say "Wow, you're even more beautiful than in the magazines." It's just insane. Furthermore, even if you think she's the hottest thing ever, just listen to her or watch her actions in just about any episode and you'll be forced to despise her pretty quick. She's completely self-absorbed, does nothing for anyone else and thinks everyone owes her something becaue she's pretty.

Anyway, this episode was so bad and so unconnected to anything else, including scenes within ITSELF, that it never should have aired. That writers and producers are getting PAID to write and create and air crap like this when there are plenty of artists out there that can do so much better and would treat these characters with so much more reverence is sickening and an insult to Superman fans and television viewers. If this show wasn't loosely based on Superman, there's no way I'd still be watching it. Look to shows like 24 or Lost or Rescue Me for how to write good, thoughtful, creative drama. Look to the comics to come up with your storylines about Superman and his supporting cast; from there you'll actually learn how these people should act Al and Miles, and it's certainly not the way YOU have them act. This goes for Singer and Donner as well !!!

I don't hate Smallville or the Supes movies (with the exception of 3 and 4, but I hate the way these creators and writers find the need to change things and mess things up.)

Thems my thoughts and I'm stickin to em.

[hassenmorad]

None of the eps. so far have been up to par, and I'm certain that if the quality doesn't improve soon, many viewers will simply stop watching. Season 6 has been very disappointing so far. :(


Originally posted by manofsteel30
...Lex has NO REASON WHATSOEVER to be interested in Lana...

I think the only reason Lex is with Lana is because he envied Clark's relationship with her for all those years. Just as Lana said, Lex strives to get what he can't have, and one of those things was Lana.

[fresh prince]

wow this episode sucked major time I hated it deffintley a candidate for worst episode ever I gave it a two only cause the park ranger chick was hot.

[Valterra]

Suprisingly bad episode and I'm some one that liked almost every other episode of the show :( .

The whole evil plant lady thing was A crap idea for a villian. Then the way that lark killed her was just boring there wasn't even a battle he just killed her :mad: .

The preview for next weeks episode looks very promising. But we can only wait and see right.

[MachiavellianLex]

Originally posted by Gothabilly13
I cannot post my felings on ksite...the langauge is too strong ....if anyone is really interested my rant is on LJ
Please read it only if you can take adult content

http://gothabilly13.livejournal.com/5630.html

But all I will say is...the producers of this crap should hang their heads in shame.....


Ditto. I replied to Goths LJ. Easier than editing it my thoughts.

[2shae]

I think it great that they put the background music back again and that they removed the darkness of the show.

They're really getting that classic Smallville feeling back!

[MidgardDragon]

A comparison to Ageless is not something to do lightly. That's just wrong on so many levels. Chlimmy and Chlark moments were awesome, Lollie moments were great, Clark vs. POTW was fun, even though the last fight was probably the quickest of Smallville's quick fight scenes. I didn't even mind the Lexana sex, since Kristin was looking nice tonight. The only thing that bugged me was no Lionel, and no superbreath.

[BeldarofRemulak]

Originally posted by Autumn

1) Jimmy and Chloe in the beginning. Okay, what the heck was this opening scene? I felt like I was watching a completely different show than Smallville. Did the writer of this episode know the characters at all? The Chloe and Jimmy kiss was the furthest thing from romantic than I can imagine. No chemistry whatsoever. Suddenly I felt like I was watching the Superman’s version of the OC. I guess they should advertise this as the season of the light switch. Why in the world would Chloe have been so quick to be in a relationship with Jimmy? And the setting? The plot? Yuck!


I have to 100% disagree with this...I see major sparks between these two characters. When Jimmy said he'll be real slow you wont even see him move.. Iwanted to Kiss him, so I understand why Chloe did. IMO they click together very well and it doesnt seemed forced at all. Chloe is "quick" because she hasnt had ANY since Jimmy...and she already was with Jimmy before so its not like she is jumping right into it..plus not sure how the whole transition from summer to now affected SV timeline Wise.

I know why most chlarkers think they don't look good together..because they are such die hard Chlarkers that Chloe can only be with clark which I am a chlarker too, but I am a chloe fan more and I like to see her happy and Jimmy seems to make her happy :)!

[manofsteel30]

The new music on the last two episodes has been way too cheesy and silly. Some of that darkness was what made for good drama. This show is not supposed to be a cheesy sex comedy and generally, they don't even do comedy really well.

[Fly by guy]

Originally posted by thmallville
My stomach has been hurting all day, and I'm all nauseous BECUASE OF L****A!!! I am not kidding, it is the only reason! I think I'm allergic. It's so GROSS!!!!! This is one of the suckiest episodes ever, not just because of the L****a but because of the horrendous plot. I wish I had a time machine so I could go back in time and tell myself 2 days ago NOT TO WATCH IT. This sucked beyone belief. I even had a dream last night that I killed myself because of the L****a!!!!! The only thing I liked about it was....... oh wait, nothing.

Come on, don't hold back, tell us how you REALLY feel.:D

I could not possibly agree with you more. That's why I tape the show then I can fast forward thru what I perceive to be a forthcoming steaming pile of buffalo chips.
I think it's episodes like this that drive people to adopt a new show like Heroes as their new sci fi favorite.
Smallville. Where the hell have you gone?????:mad:

[clarkandlana2]

My Review:

WORST EPPISODE EVER. It was horrible, and I'm never watching this show again. Ever.


Oh, and for those of you who didnt mind the Lexana sex because Kristin looked so great... sorry to disapoint you, but it was a body double.

[DoomsDay15]

9) What was with Clark being stuck in the plant? Why didn’t he break out of it? Does he have another weakness I’m not aware of?
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Clark wasn't just "stuck" in the plant, if you would have noticed he was impaled through the chest by a giant branch. And "no" he couldn't break out of it because the plant was alien just like him. This was explained during the conversation between clark and the Alien before he was impaled.

Since the plant was of alien origin it was able to injure Clark, despite his fast regenerative abilities;Hence, the cuts on his hands he also recieved towards the beginning when he tried to remove the vines from the guy they found.

No offense, but it seems to me you did a little bit more nit-picking, and a little less paying attention.

[2shae]

I don't understand why so many people here hate this episode.

I thought it was putting the classic Smallville feeling back from the first couple of Seasons. The seasons that made me start watching Smallville in the first place!

Till now the only season that I didn't really like was season 5, because it was so dark and chaotic and had no background music.
I really noticed that they were trying to move away from the previous season 5.

Actually I normally don't like the romantic, jealousy and stalling thing (except for the movie Hitch), but Smallville does do it right + it has a lot of cool special effects ;)


PS: One more thing....there was one tiny little thing I accidentally saw when I pressed pause to get something to get a drink.

When they were at the Smallville medical center, Chloe looked at the medical record of the guy laying in bed.
It had a date...10/14/06!!! Kinda weird, here in Holland that is tomorrow.

Look @ the printscreen (sorry the fullscreen didn't work)

http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/3571/lookatthedate1sf6.png

[Joekur]

I kinda kept waiting for Batman to show up - I started getting confused about which franchise I was watching!

I liked Much of the show and someone shysoul -made some good points about how this story served it's purpose for the needs of the seaon. Not ALL of them can be blockbusters - but still - hated the weakling Clark - but Loved the two Lex-Parts. (Tells Clark he's no longer welcome - and being right-on with Lana)

I understood the whole Clark feeling alone thing - we've been warned this season we're going to see the cost of being a hero. But I liked ShySoul's additional information - really made me see the point.

I'm geeking out for the Justice ep.

OH, and the whole - save the forest rant by the villian.... BLECH!

[Autumn]

Originally posted by DoomsDay15
9) What was with Clark being stuck in the plant? Why didn’t he break out of it? Does he have another weakness I’m not aware of?
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Clark wasn't just "stuck" in the plant, if you would have noticed he was impaled through the chest by a giant branch. And "no" he couldn't break out of it because the plant was alien just like him. This was explained during the conversation between clark and the Alien before he was impaled.

Since the plant was of alien origin it was able to injure Clark, despite his fast regenerative abilities;Hence, the cuts on his hands he also recieved towards the beginning when he tried to remove the vines from the guy they found.

No offense, but it seems to me you did a little bit more nit-picking, and a little less paying attention.

Actually I did a lot of paying attention, so I don't appreciate being insulted. This was "my" review, so I can say whatever I want. As for the explanation of why Clark was effected by the plant, I did "get" that. I just thought it was lame. My response to it was sarcastic.

And BTW, to be able to nit-pick you have to be able to pay attention.


Originally posted by MidgardDragon
A comparison to Ageless is not something to do lightly. That's just wrong on so many levels. Chlimmy and Chlark moments were awesome, Lollie moments were great, Clark vs. POTW was fun, even though the last fight was probably the quickest of Smallville's quick fight scenes. I didn't even mind the Lexana sex, since Kristin was looking nice tonight. The only thing that bugged me was no Lionel, and no superbreath.

I happen to think that the plot of having a plant person using seeds in males to procreate is just as lame as an exploding baby. But hey, it's a free world. We can all disagree. In fact I could write a comparative essay of "Ageless" and "Wither," and the dialogue in "Ageless" would be stronger. From an artistic perspective, I thought this episode was weak.

And if you didn't notice I did like Lexana, Oliver and Lois, and Chlark in this episode. I just don't happen to like the way they've revamped the show. I felt as if this new writer did not do their research on what each character would really say.

I also didn't hate "Ageless" completely. I thought the exploding baby was ridiculous. But that was the B story line. I still loved the Genevieve and Lionel interaction.


Originally posted by BeldarofRemulak
I have to 100% disagree with this...I see major sparks between these two characters. When Jimmy said he'll be real slow you wont even see him move.. Iwanted to Kiss him, so I understand why Chloe did. IMO they click together very well and it doesnt seemed forced at all. Chloe is "quick" because she hasnt had ANY since Jimmy...and she already was with Jimmy before so its not like she is jumping right into it..plus not sure how the whole transition from summer to now affected SV timeline Wise.

I know why most chlarkers think they don't look good together..because they are such die hard Chlarkers that Chloe can only be with clark which I am a chlarker too, but I am a chloe fan more and I like to see her happy and Jimmy seems to make her happy :)!

We are all free to disagree I suppose. So, I'm glad you liked it. I, however, did not. I felt that the Chimmy thing felt like more of a pre-teen romance than a mature adult relationship. I like Jimmy's character, and I like Chloe's character, I just don't like them together. Whenever I watch Chloe and Jimmy together, I am reminded of Charlotte Lucas in "Pride and Prejudice." She marries Mr. Collins, because 1) she was lonely 2) she thought no one else would ever come along and 3) she was a burden to her parents. In other words, she settled. IMO, and that's all it is, I feel as if Chloe is settling with Jimmy. But perhaps it is like what Charlotte said, "Happiness in marriage is only a matter of chance." Maybe by chance, Chloe will find happiness with Jimmy, even though she loves Clark more. I also want to add, that I wouldn't be opposed to a Chlimmy romance if it was developed in a better way. But they made it pre-teenish instead. I would have had Chloe be a "little" angrier that the guy she lost her virginity to never called her back. Heck, I'd have a little bit of a chip on my shoulder. And would not be ready to jump right back in, after a few years absence on his part. I think he should have had to work just a "bit" harder. But hey, that's just me.

Also, I am a fan of Chlark. But I'm not a die hard person who can't imagine Clark or Chloe with anyone other than each other. I think Chloe with Bruce Wayne would be "very" interesting.

I just hope Smallville doesn't turn into the OC.


Originally posted by clarkandlana2
My Review:

WORST EPPISODE EVER. It was horrible, and I'm never watching this show again. Ever.


Oh, and for those of you who didnt mind the Lexana sex because Kristin looked so great... sorry to disapoint you, but it was a body double.

I agree that it was a bad episode, but I'm not sure if it's the worst episode. There were still some great moments in it I think. I loved the whole ball sequence, even though I think they should have done a lot more with it. Plus, I loved when Oliver said to Lois, "I find that very attractive." Hmmm, well I find him very attractive. :) Oliver and Lois together might grow on me. I just think it was a little rushed into.

I also loved all the Lexana stuff in this episode, despite a few moments of weak and inconsistent dialogue.

And let me just say, that just because I critiqued this episode, doesn't mean I didn't enjoy it. It was a fun episode. I just thought it was one of the weakest, and everything felt a little rushed. There were also a lot of things that felt off or unnatural about the episode. But, that's just my opinion.

[brother_of_krypton]

Many people "hated" this episode because it was more like classic smallville than what we'd expect from season 6. It's good to see that the writers are writing episodes like they did back in season one, but people want new.

I personally thought it was a great episode. FINALLY! A villain besides Zod who kicked the crap outa Clark!

[thehenry89]

i don't hate this episode i'm just extremly exasperated whith the way they've been writting all the charachters this year. clark can't get over lana and he can't have chloe so he's gonna mope in his loft and play with a ball. he could be doing a million other things far more becoming of a man who will one day be superman then siittin on his arse brooding. lex is just...he's supposed to be all evil and stuff but the only evil thing he's done so far is watching lana undress and that really wasn't all that evil but it was a gross invasion of privacy. lana seems to be having an identiy crisis and she's been having it since about episode 17 of season 5. it seems to me they want us to belive that she can't be self suffient or even remotly interesting person without the help of a man. she couldn't even make the descion to further her relationship with lex without chloe's help, i'm sorry but if you can't make up your own mind about what you want with you life when your 20 years old and have been living on your own since you were basically 15 it's never gonna happen. chloe...she's even more of a hero then clark and he's bloody superman. your tellin me that a 20 year old girl is supposed to be smarter then a kryptonian. the brillance of the kryptonians (jor-el specficaly) is something hearlded throughout the 28 known galaxy's. and yet with his "superior" alien intellegence he didn't know to use electricty on the vines or heck use his heat vison.

Lois's charachter has never been written to well and even now that the restricions were dropped on what could be written for her they still have no idea what to do. so instead of building her charachter more they shove her into a doomed relationship. i'm trying my best to like Oliver but Justin Hurtley's acting ability is way below par compared to all the others on the show. he's hot yeah but his Ineptitude when it comes to acting is seriously hurting any and all of his chances with me i can only hope he improves from here. Jimmy is pointless on the show and should be written off as quickly as possible. he's not even close to being good enough for chloe. he's a coward, an idiot and he presumtiously possesive of chloe. i love smallville and will countine to watch till the end but, come on the writters can do way better then this i know i've seen it.:)

[brother_of_krypton]

I thought it was a good episode. Sure, it had it's bad points and didn't have much of a focus, but at least it felt like (to me) the writers were reverting back to ye olde days of smallville.

Two: The relationship between Lex and Lana is beginning to get interesting! Honeslty, the last scene where the two of them were "alone" (cough cough) was prolly one of the most intimate scenes in the show, and shows Lex has an extremely sensitive side but, on the flip side, accentuates Lana's sluttiness...

The whole Chloe/Jimmy thing was random, and I hate them together. Period. It was fun, however, to see him get what he deserved...and to see him get shocked. (I get my kicks from Jimmy-Bashing)

But yeah, that's reasons why I fel the way I do about Wither.

[Lostfan588]

last night i thought this episode was pretty bad...i didnt really like the ending that much i thought the ball could have been done better and lexana sex well ew...but after watching it through again once more...i think i kinda like it actually...chloe /clark /jimmy investigating saved this episode from utter failure in my opinion. and hot green arrow too lol!....but anyways chlark is always there to save the day- they are totally the mulder and scully of smallville! i wish lionel were in this episode though too that woulda been interesting.

[superhippie2000]

i think people didnt like it cause tyhey didnt focus on the phantom zone villian and clark fighting her. if happened too fast and we didnt get to see the special effects that could have been used better. also there were like 5 plotlines going on at the same time and the main plotline was cut short.

[ajfinn]

Originally posted by 2shae
I don't understand why so many people here hate this episode.


One word:
LEXANA



*washes hands dripping in slime*

[MidgardDragon]

Originally posted by clarkandlana2
My Review:

WORST EPPISODE EVER. It was horrible, and I'm never watching this show again. Ever.


Oh, and for those of you who didnt mind the Lexana sex because Kristin looked so great... sorry to disapoint you, but it was a body double.

Actually I think we all know you're right, I should have said Lana looked great, not Kristin. Because body double or not, she was still playing Lana. But yeah, we are all pretty much aware of KK's prudishness about that by now. :) The Lexana scene still had a smoking looking naked female, and that's rarely disappointing. :lol:

[MidgardDragon]

I can't understand why people would be hating it for them going back to Season 1 and 2 storylines, hasn't their been a near constant upcry that this show has gone down hill since the early seasons from a group of fans? You know what I think, personally? I think the fans that were speaking the loudest got to TPTB and they went back to early season storylines, but that group of loud fans was a relatively small minority of the overall group. Personally, I've seen very few episodes of Smallville that truly dissappointed me, and this was not one of them. The overarcing storyline for the season seems to be going great, and despite the POTW, this turned out to be far more than filler.

[demongene]

I liked it.

[2shae]

Originally posted by MidgardDragon
Personally, I've seen very few episodes of Smallville that truly dissappointed me, and this was not one of them.

I agree.

[Lightning Flash]

I liked this episode. It many surprises and twists. The alien plant-like creature being from the PZ :eek: . I, personally don't think this epi was a filler b/c of the Kryptonian criminal.

When Lex found Clark snooping through his greenhouse... I automatically wanted Lex to use him as an example to show Lana how even worse of a person he is, too bad he didn't!

The fight scene, was lame, water just obliterated the creature? I mean she just went "ZAP," and disappeared out of thin air. Maybe an explanation could be that the water was actually a liquid blue kryptonite? Since we do know that Lex messes around with krpytonite all the time...

Ollie and Lois scene with the arrow was soooooo sweet! I was a little saddened when Ollie missed the can, but I knew he did it on purpose. Then I see the can's top was what he shot... that was so awesome!

I felt like the ball was supposed to be the main plot, but I saw it was only a subplot.

Unlike some people, I thought this episode was great.

[FOG]

It was ok...as i'm sure some people might roll their eyes, the Lexana ruined it for me. I gave it a 7.

[Lightning Flash]

I never hated episodes, and never really have... until I came to this forum. I'm the type of person that just loves Smallville for what it is... I didn't used to judge episodes. Well anyway, I'm a person who liked this epi, I thought it was great.

[i love u tom]

i thought this was an AWESOME episode, IMO. some people are comparing this to AGELESS. im sorry. but nothing will EVER come close to that epi. it sukked sooo bad. anyway, i loved every part of this eppy, although they made one OBVIOUS mistake (lex saying no one ever moved in with him... umm THE BLACK WIDOW RING A BELL?!) . but yeah. everything else was awesome! i dunno why everyone is bashing it. although i was disappointed when clark didnt show up at the costume party :(

[Flash_85]

I thought the episode was alright, on par with what they've been coming out with for the past two seasons.

After most episodes, I tell one of my friends to download it cause I thought he'd enjoy it, but I didn't recommend this one. It didn't seem like one a casual viewer would enjoy.

[smchic92]

Originally posted by 8SMALLFAN8
Personally, (putting my sad Clark/Chlark feelings aside) I loved it. On so many levels...

Hope they continue on with the same path... :p

Exactly! I LOVED this episode. I don't know why you all are saying how horrible it was. And someone said a few pages back about it being a breath of fresh air? Completly agree. It was refreshing. I loved the Chlimmy! They were soo cute. I have to at least admit that, even though I am a die hard Chlarker. ;) :p And I was surprised at how much I loved Lollie though. I actucally squeed at that last scene with them at the Talon. I squeed! Shocking ain't it? :) :\ LOL And I never really liked Lexana but tonight they weren't so bad. ABSOULTLY LOVED the Lex and Clark scene in the greenhouse. "You're not welcome here anymore." Wow, just wow.

Also, on a side note, Lana wasn't so bad in this episode. :p Seriously, I liked how she actucally saw the light and said she's been saying how she doesn't trust Clark or Lex(we all know that she has some serious trust issues! :lol: ) but she actucally doesn't trust herself. That was a nice way to put it, TPTB. I don't know, maybe it was just me, but I actucally liked Lana in this one. The only part I tuned her out was in her first scence with Lex and that lady with the outfits, so that's a big improvement for me compared to the usual times I tune her out in an episode, which is every scene she's in! :p :D :lol: Overall LOVED this episode. Awesome in my book. :)

[hassenmorad]

Originally posted by 2shae
I think it great that they put the background music back again and that they removed the darkness of the show.

They're really getting that classic Smallville feeling back!

Hopefully engaging storylines will also come back.

[BrokenHero]

What makes Smallville so great is that it is diverse. It has romance, destiny, action, special effects, family, friendship, sci-fi, adventure. Not all of these can or should be in EVERY episode. There are some episodes that are geared towards certain fans, others that are geared to other fans, and then still other episodes that are for everybody. The fact that the last episode or last couple episodes might be lacking for certain people's tastes doesn't mean the writers are awful or the show is going down hill. Because you don't like that Clark is moping for a while doesn't mean the show is bad, maybe he needs to work through issues to get to his destiny. If characters (read: Lana) didn't make awful mistakes, there would be no conflict. After a while I understand when a character just becomes too annoying from bad mistakes, but then there are other characters to enjoy. I enjoying seeing romance and relationships in one episode and crazy action in others. I'm lucky that Smallville is right for my taste probably 18 out of 22 episodes a season. That's a pretty good job from the writers IMO.

[lana&Clark4ever]

it wasn't a bad one it was an EXTREMELY bad one. with the vine plants...lex and lana craap...i was laughing all the way til i saw lex aka alexander the not so great in a skirt LMAO

[torfinho]

I liked it, only thing was that the kryptonian should have been much cooler, she seemed more like a krypto freak..

Now they have used one of these villains who could have been much more fun to watch.

[spideyfan]

Alright episode.

Good points:
-Dealing with Phantoms that got free from the PZ.
-Actually having a non-FOTW causing the damage.
-CK/Chloe interaction.

Bad points:
-Showing Lana/Lex getting ready to...um...yea I dont want to see that

Not much more to say than that.

7/10

[ISUZU]

First of all - reading the various posts - I cannot believe that some of you have compared the episode to Ageless. This episode was Classic 'Sad' Smallville. The only bad part of the current story that is evolving is the Lexana stuff which I totally think is out of character for Lana - not only because its just way of reality considering her character thus far in the show but also because on a personal level it kinda makes most of us sick knowing that Lex knew both Clark and Lana when they were much younger than him and in high school.

Apart from the Lexana - this story had a little humour with the Chimmy scenes, and Lois with Oliver. Yes the fight scene could have been more interesting but overall it was not a bad episode and it just a case of moving the story on. The ending with Clark alone and bored was quite moving in many ways - and it will be really interesting to see how he manages himself. I gave it a 7/10 and it seems to be the most popular rating thus far.

I think the way the episodes have developed now and the writers taking a bold step to the point where Lana does not know Clarks secret and in all superman myth this is something that is set in concrete - anything will now be possible - none of us can expect the story to be one that follows the myth - they ended that idea with the witches stuff in season 5. I would not be surprised if Lois found out about Clark before the show ends.

[SVSpector]

I think what was partically wrong is....I tune into a super hero show to get a rush when the hero does a super save that ony he can do....This episode left me flat in the end....thus feeling the show failed to deliver the desired effect.

[avidreader]

The fight scene, was lame, water just obliterated the creature? I mean she just went "ZAP," and disappeared out of thin air. Maybe an explanation could be that the water was actually a liquid blue kryptonite? Since we do know that Lex messes around with krpytonite all the time...



What happened was when the sprinklers went off they short circuited the overhanging lights which caused an electric shock and that is what obliterted her.

[gj430]

Originally posted by Lightning Flash
I liked this episode. It many surprises and twists. The alien plant-like creature being from the PZ :eek: . I, personally don't think this epi was a filler b/c of the Kryptonian criminal.

When Lex found Clark snooping through his greenhouse... I automatically wanted Lex to use him as an example to show Lana how even worse of a person he is, too bad he didn't!

The fight scene, was lame, water just obliterated the creature? I mean she just went "ZAP," and disappeared out of thin air. Maybe an explanation could be that the water was actually a liquid blue kryptonite? Since we do know that Lex messes around with krpytonite all the time...

Ollie and Lois scene with the arrow was soooooo sweet! I was a little saddened when Ollie missed the can, but I knew he did it on purpose. Then I see the can's top was what he shot... that was so awesome!

I felt like the ball was supposed to be the main plot, but I saw it was only a subplot.

Unlike some people, I thought this episode was great.



Like Avid said, I don't know if you missed it but it was the electricity that killed Gloria. The light fell down and Clark hit the sprinkler with heat vision and it electrocuted her. Chloe figured it out in the hospital witht the wall and then saved Clark with the tazer, in the woods.

[Luv Clana/Hate Lexana]

Flat out hated it. Lexana... ugh... gives me a weird feeling.