View Full Version : Not going the right way...sorry
jesustlife
10-12-2006, 07:12 PM
I don't know if we are always supposed to say good things about the show, but I just can't say anything good about the last two. I feel like the producers already believe that this is the end, they are just giving us really bad episodes, or at least "low level". Is like Smallville is under new management. And a bad one. Special effects, plot, everything is getting worst. We saw today the first of the " creatures" that got out of the PZ and it sucked. What is going on? The only good thing about this last episode was the romance and the music, felt very "Classic Smallville". Well there, I got it out of my system.
JWooten15
10-12-2006, 07:19 PM
yeah i totally agree with that. so far, everything is smallville is a major step down as compared to the previous 5 seasons. special effects, storyline, everything. the producers need to step it up big time!
myankskent
10-12-2006, 07:22 PM
This was probably one of the worst shows that I have seen. At least thirst had Brainiac, this was just terrible. The whole damn episode was about relationships and the Clark/Lana/Lex triangle more specifically. Just terrible.
F-Stop Blues
10-12-2006, 07:23 PM
It wasnt the best.
thehenry89
10-12-2006, 07:25 PM
i thought i was watchin the green arrow show for a while. but the ep was'nt that bad.
Kreukie
10-12-2006, 07:26 PM
I honestly don't think TPTB care anymore... if they lose the show or continue.
And I believe if not all but most of the actors feel that way as well.
Hence why it feels like most of them are mailing in their scenes.
D.M.A.
10-12-2006, 07:27 PM
Originally posted by myankskent
This was probably one of the worst shows that I have seen. At least thirst had Brainiac, this was just terrible. The whole damn episode was about relationships and the Clark/Lana/Lex triangle more specifically. Just terrible.
yea it was...it was like they were tryin to show us who would be datin who this season all in 1 episode,it seemed rushed at sum points to me.Espcially since last weeks episode but I agree,the story didn't really focus on gloria like I thought.She was in what 3 scenes smh,and died alil too quick.Plus this episode imo just like sneeze was more about lexana than anyone even clark,clark to me the past 2 episodes has become secondary.Tptb started off great and the episode isn't bad but not as good as the last 2,and sneeze wasn't even that great but good.So tptb imo tried to force every relationship on us alil too quick and it took away from the real plot of the episode,but I'm learnin to expect this from AlMiles lol
BeldarofRemulak
10-12-2006, 07:28 PM
I admit that the effects were horrible and the ending was too quick (the bad guy part), but I like the episode. The scenes were pretty good and the had some humor mixed well in with drama.
Luthor5339
10-12-2006, 07:30 PM
I liked the episode. Sure, the action and effects weren't that great. But, everything else I really liked- the character interactions. It was hard watching the last scene between Lex and Lana, knowing who Lex is going to become- guess that's a bambino.
Anyways, I liked the episode. Not as great action and effects. But good character interactions.
gbrewer83
10-12-2006, 07:31 PM
Yeah, the past 3 episodes have stunk. They all seemed to be very low on the writing, special effects, and acting. I mean it's like this show is just going down the tube. Not to mention that its more like Lexanaville with optional DC characters, and no Clark Kent. I think this may be the end. By the way, I've said this many many times, I do not hate Smallville and it has been my favorite show for 5 years, and I usually don't complain about the show, but I found myself cussing and despising Smallville now. Still just hopping it will get better.
P.S. Sorry for the ranting and being a punk, this season has just made me angry. I apologize.
jazzylg
10-12-2006, 07:31 PM
I have to reiterate this quote I made on another thread, cause its classic: No Flights..No tights.. And no punches( at least none from clark this season)
It looks like the CW is trying to turn smallville into "Lois & Clark". A lot of romance and soap opera mish mash, mixed in with a lame dose of generic action w.extremely low budget effects.I f things don't improve, the end may be near!
jesustlife
10-12-2006, 07:34 PM
Originally posted by jazzylg
I have to reiterate this quote I made on another thread, cause its classic: No Flights..No tights.. And no punches( at least none from clark this season)
It looks like the CW is trying to turn smallville into "Lois & Clark". A lot of romance and soap opera mish mash, mixed in with a lame dose of generic action w.extremely low budget effects.I f things don't improve, the end may be near!
I hope the end is not as near as "cancelled".
BeldarofRemulak
10-12-2006, 07:39 PM
I dont think the CW would cancel Smallville..they get the highest ratings.
STFanatic
10-12-2006, 07:45 PM
They took time to build up a fairly good "bad guy" and with one shot of heat vision at a sprinkler (which Chole solved BTW), "Zap" it was over.
And, where was the "Lumberjack" from the spoilers?
I think they need to cut some characters and quit adding more.
More story, less "touchie feelie".
(No, I wouldn't want to choose who should leave, but I can think of two or three.)
Khyla
10-12-2006, 07:46 PM
I get the impression that they had episodes planned out for 2 more seasons, and then decided to squish them into one by cutting scenes and rushing through stuff. I had really hoped there would be 2 more seasons, AT LEAST! it makes me sad. :(
thehenry89
10-12-2006, 07:47 PM
personaly i think the show has become more about the green arrow and lexana then anyone else.
KEakaCK
10-12-2006, 07:49 PM
Originally posted by STFanatic
They took time to build up a fairly good "bad guy" and with one shot of heat vision at a sprinkler (which Chole solved BTW), "Zap" it was over.
And, where was the "Lumberjack" from the spoilers?
I think they need to cut some characters and quit adding more.
More story, less "touchie feelie".
(No, I wouldn't want to choose who should leave, but I can think of two or three.)
I'd cut Lana...She's just getting annoying and tiredsome to watch.
Theshadow129x
10-12-2006, 07:58 PM
i think this was a good episode and honestly i expected the girl to be a freak of the week than someone from the PZ. but i also thought they are trying too hard with the lex and lana thing, seems like their main focus is dating relationships than the main story of lex and clark being enemies. i mean we got a real lex and clark moment once so far this season and it was really brief. i feel like they want this show to end sooner than later.
BrokenHero
10-12-2006, 08:30 PM
I don't know what everyone's problem is with this episode is. Sure the freak of the week from the PZ is a tad weak, but whatever. The episode offered a lot of classic Smallville moments. I like all the relationships they are developing. There is good chemistry between the couples (minus Lexana IMO). Clark is moving away from all the emo stuff. (sure he feels alone, but he's not pining over every girl. Part of Superman is feeling alone. He's not spying on Lexana, which is a step toward being a man.) I love OQ and JO. All the acting was really good. Nobody was "mailing it in." Jimmy and Chloe in the opening. Oliver's sarcasm. Clark mimicking Chloe by whispering in the apartment. I thought it was very creative.
I have to admit the plant special effects sucked at times. But are people seriously saying that the special effects in Zod sucked? Are you kidding me? Let's criticize when its needed, not just to be negative. Sneeze was also weak at points, but there were bright spots too. It's nice that he got a new power. Let's not get down on the season just yet. For those that don't like the romance, Green Arrow is coming! I, for one, am excited!
buddy232
10-12-2006, 08:31 PM
The show is over! I can't help but wonder if everyone associated with this show is just waiting patiently for it to end, with the possible exception of Allison, who seems to be the real hero they want to write about. There is no excitement exhibited by anyone. I think that Al/Miles have moved on. They don't want to be bothered with truly telling the story of Clark Kent. They keep bringing in other heroes, hoping it bring in the audience. I'm sure they are much more focused on heroes than Smallville.
The main three characters have become people we no longer recognize. Clark, worst of all, has become a weak, frightened shell of who he was in the start of the show. As a matter of fact, everyone is so flawed, that we don't care about them anymore. Lana, poor Lana. I can't even imagine how Kristin must cringe every time she reads her next script. I bet, if there is a way, she will leave this show before the end of it.
Lex is supposed to be evil not a lover acting like a pedophile or sympathetic idiot. Stop making him the hero, he is not. I am sick of the villain getting everything he wants, especially Lana. We all know Lex has always wanted her, the pedophile. To have Lana reciprocate is too painful to watch. There are some messed up scenarios that just shouldn't happen. Lana Lang ever choosing Lex is one of them.
The fact is, they were on the right path, and left it. Now it's our turn. Watch, or don't watch. This is not the same show we fell in love with, so if you choose to watch, be prepared to be disappointed. The path you choose is up to you.
gj430
10-12-2006, 08:47 PM
it's the beginning of the season Lex is getting what he wants now but things will change. People have to have some patience. If Lex was "Snap" Evil then everyone would ***** about lightswitching. It's suppose to be tragic he is getting everything he wants while Clark doesn't. People seem to not understand you are suppose to feel bad for Clark. Thats why they show that everyone else is moving and he's alone at the end. He feels sad. It's only the third episode I mean people either say too much or not enough happens in these episodes. It's takes awhile for things to happen. Things will start happening in the next few episodes and I think Clark will start to move foward. Things are probably going to lead to Justice and then there is the whole second half of the season after that. Things are going to progress over the course of the whole season. They can't already have them in the place they are going to be by the end of the season. What would do the rest of the season. Wouldn't everybody be all blah blah blah if CLark and Lex were lightswitched all of a sudden during the course of one episode, only the third at the beginning of the season.
MarvelAtTheMoon
10-12-2006, 09:55 PM
I don't know why they had Clark act so attracted to Gloria the park ranger when he already has his hands full with all the other love triangles.
Dangerous George
10-13-2006, 01:34 AM
Originally posted by myankskent
This was probably one of the worst shows that I have seen. At least thirst had Brainiac, this was just terrible. The whole damn episode was about relationships and the Clark/Lana/Lex triangle more specifically. Just terrible.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: and yet you keep going back for more :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: gluttons for punishment -
my word or in a word . . . (pssst. . . it's over with except for the shouting. . . pass the word ;)
if one didn't know any better it looks like the show as been sabotaged from about reckoning onward
peace
Originally posted by gj430
it's the beginning of the season Lex is getting what he wants now but things will change. People have to have some patience. If Lex was "Snap" Evil then everyone would ***** about lightswitching. It's suppose to be tragic he is getting everything he wants while Clark doesn't. People seem to not understand you are suppose to feel bad for Clark. Thats why they show that everyone else is moving and he's alone at the end. He feels sad. It's only the third episode I mean people either say too much or not enough happens in these episodes. It's takes awhile for things to happen. Things will start happening in the next few episodes and I think Clark will start to move foward. Things are probably going to lead to Justice and then there is the whole second half of the season after that. Things are going to progress over the course of the whole season. They can't already have them in the place they are going to be by the end of the season. What would do the rest of the season. Wouldn't everybody be all blah blah blah if CLark and Lex were lightswitched all of a sudden during the course of one episode, only the third at the beginning of the season.
well what happens if the show is cancelled say episode 5 or 6? then just about non of what you speak to will be of any use. The problem here seems to me . . . that these first few episodes have to bring in the numbers or the dance will be short. personally I believe it's already over and done with except for the shouting. Which is sad for those who still view it for alleged entertainment value? Go figure.
peace
TheUnforgiven512
10-13-2006, 03:41 AM
Um could it be that they are trying to save up for the justice league appearance? They will need a lot of effects for that, better have them use it on the big stuff.
InLove_with_Chloe
10-13-2006, 03:45 AM
Not only are they developing the show into the WRONG direction, but the last two episodes even went into OPPOSITE directions. How is that even possible?!?
ajfinn
10-13-2006, 10:44 AM
I had creepy flashbacks of REALLY BAD Freak of the Week episodes, and then they tacked on the worst scene in Smallville history at the end.
This is beyond unbearable now! :mad:
last man of krypton
10-13-2006, 11:02 AM
Originally posted by jesustlife
Is like Smallville is under new management.
For the love of Pete Ross, I want Smallville under new management. Get the show away from those hacks.
Originally posted by BrokenHero
The episode offered a lot of classic Smallville moments.
If I wanted to see the classic moments, I'd watch my boxsets. Repeating the same thing (and badly, no less) for no reason is just bad writing.
During that first scene I honestly thought to myself for the first time since I started watching six years ago, "am I actually watching Smallville?".
Kel-El
10-13-2006, 11:05 AM
In season 5, I thought Clark was seriously starting to become to the man we all know and love. By the end of the season, he was just so "supermanly." Now, Clark just seems to be moping a lot. He seems to be almost a different person this season, and he only cares about relationships with Lana/Chloe/Lois (take your pick.) This does make me sad after how amazing season 5 was, and tptb don't seem to want to follow up on that.
I guess I can uderstand to a point why Clark is so whiney and mopey all the time. As he said, he lost Lana, his dad, and Jor-el. And now, with Chloe preoccupied with Jimmy, he's sort of losing his best friend. But, come on. Clark can't be that depressed all the time.
Yeah, the freak of the week, even though she came from the Phantom Zone, wasn't very impressive. Lol. I laughed at the vines taking over that guy's hospital room. Whenever I saw the vines, I kept thinking of "Devil's Snare."
Okay. My rant's over. Don't get me wrong. I love this show. Smallville is just too much fun to watch and to talk about for me to ever stop watching it. I just had to get my few complaints off my chest.
Glyrion
10-13-2006, 11:14 AM
Why the heck was Clark vulnerable to the vines..Even if it's from another galaxy or if it came out of Godzilla's butt he shouldn't be vulnerable to it unless there's Kryptonite involved, magic or red sun rays.
Timester
10-13-2006, 11:18 AM
Originally posted by Glyrion
Why the heck was Clark vulnerable to the vines..Even if it's from another galaxy or if it came out of Godzilla's butt he shouldn't be vulnerable to it unless there's Kryptonite involved, magic or red sun rays.
Or different density.
Chloestheone
10-13-2006, 11:18 AM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Kel-El
[B]In season 5, I thought Clark was seriously starting to become to the man we all know and love. By the end of the season, he was just so "supermanly." Now, Clark just seems to be moping a lot. He seems to be almost a different person this season, and he only cares about relationships with Lana/Chloe/Lois (take your pick.) This does make me sad after how amazing season 5 was, and tptb don't seem to want to follow up on that.
ITA!! Clark is too old to be doing the 14 year-old "drag and sigh".
If the phantom zone freaks aren't any more powerful or awesome than the regular FOTW....then what's the purpose?
Crispin Glover
10-13-2006, 11:31 AM
You guys and girls are all correct. Smallville is weakening under new management. The CW has changed the show. That's why I think they wanted Bow Wow and Spelling on. They are a new network and they want to define themselves, but they should leave Smallville alone and let is become what it wants to. It was the same with Buffy going to UPN way back in the day. The show completely changed.
I hadn't really paid much attention but it does seem like the CW's schtick is Soap Opera like.
Dangerous George
10-13-2006, 11:34 AM
naw, the WB started the turn to Soap Opera or Sci-fi-opera back in S5 or even earlier if the truth be told,
Crispin Glover
10-13-2006, 11:52 AM
Dangerous George you might be on to something.
Dangerous George
10-13-2006, 12:19 PM
it's the only thing that makes sense of late. She's going down fast at a quickening pace which is unfortunate for those that still faithfully watch it. It will become more painful to watch from epi to epi for sure.
peace
superpal1
10-13-2006, 12:27 PM
Man you guys are dogging Smallville way to much. I happen to enjoy the show each week. I thought the last two episodes were great and Wither was good. The show has many new characters that need to be introduced and defined. They only have an hour. Even though I think the end fight was to quick, I am prepared to cut the writers some slack, because this episode allowed the other characters to get their arcs rolling. Lana and Lex get serious, we see the triangle start to form with Lois and Oliver, as well as Jimmy and Chloe. Clark also realizes that others have escaped with him. This episode laid a lot of ground work to build on.
Dangerous George
10-13-2006, 12:41 PM
Originally posted by superpal1
Man you guys are dogging Smallville way to much. I happen to enjoy the show each week. I thought the last two episodes were great and Wither was good. The show has many new characters that need to be introduced and defined. They only have an hour. Even though I think the end fight was to quick, I am prepared to cut the writers some slack, because this episode allowed the other characters to get their arcs rolling. Lana and Lex get serious, we see the triangle start to form with Lois and Oliver, as well as Jimmy and Chloe. Clark also realizes that others have escaped with him. This episode laid a lot of ground work to build on.
How long have you viewed the show? Were you there in the beginning? Just curious.
peace
Dor el
10-13-2006, 01:52 PM
Originally posted by STFanatic I think they need to cut some characters and quit adding more.
More story, less "touchie feelie".
(No, I wouldn't want to choose who should leave, but I can think of two or three.) [/B]
Yep. Too many characters to fully develop any of them. Unfortunately, it seems that Clark's development is the character development that is way too often sacrificed in order to show semi naked Lois, stupid Lana, Lex getting shot, etc.
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