Lois and Journalism?

[chlarkfan333]

Here's where you can discuss Lois Lane and the first milestone in her journey toward being Lois Lane, investigative reporter for the Daily Planet.

[i luv tom welling]

It's finally happening. Happy? or not? I think it's kinda weird.

[cotton candy girl]

I'm happy; 'bout time.

[F-Stop Blues]

Im happy. Its kinda lightswitch but I can deal with that.

[shaula luthor]

Why wierd?....
I´m very happy.
Wooooooo!!! It has to be!!!

[Damali]

Kinda weird, but I'm glad she's finally doing it. I'm surpised there was no reference to the whole "seeing heaven" while she was in the FOS in 'Zod'.

[Spyderwalk]

I'm just glad her spelling is horrible.

[shy175223]

at least THAT didn;t change.

[Hurricain]

Lightswitch. Plain and simple.

[HowardFilms]

Yeah, good thing they kept the spelling thing in there, it mad ethe transition ok with me

[myankskent]

Even though it's sort of a lightswitch, her article was pure trash which is what the inquisitor is. Newspapers like that will print anything.

[jimmyolsenblues]

very happy to see lois taking her first steps toward her future.

[Superman_Beyond]

Well I loved it.

[F-Stop Blues]

It is lightswitch but atleast she's doing something proactive and moving towards her destiny.

[MBCorp]

I'm happy about it. I really liked the scenes between the two cousins in this episode also, the highpoint of the episode for me.

[VisionGirl]

They couldn't have handled that Lois thing any worse. I can hear 'lightswitch' being bellowed from Chlark Valley already.
I'm pro-Lois and even I didn't buy it. It would be one thing if she hadn't played investigative journalist before... but she HAD - in Facade. So her sudden epiphany seemed nonsensical.
Also - she wrote a ridiculous article, for a cheap rag paper, AND Chloe laughed at her twice!
Ugh. I am not pleased.

[Superman_Beyond]

And she was published. YAH!!

[Ireallylikethisshow]

Lol. I loved it. It was funny, I sort of got the vibe that she had been pushing herself to write an article about it ever since it happened. She seemed to be pushing the subject. And I think she just gave in and decided she wanted to write it. Then she just wanted to get it published. Just because it were 'her' story. Maybe not the issue itself.

It was also funny how she decided to go to the daily planet even after "Dark Thursday". Lol

[Ireallylikethisshow]

Yeah!!! she's reporting!

Now she just needs to find article on subjects more interesting then weather...

[khufu]

It was definitely a lightswitch. But why did they do it that way? In one episode she's found her calling??? They could just as easily have taken like 2 or 3 eps to really develop it, and in the long run it would have been so much better for her character. But this was just so rushed.

Not to mention, out of all the wierd things she's seen, why now? Her first (2nd? I forget) episode had a guy whose hand was a metal sword.... now THAT is weird! Oh well, I was ready for it, and it still took me by suprised. I'll admit that I'm not a Lois fan, but honestly I don't even think Lois fans will appreciate how this was done.

[Deana]

Originally posted by Ireallylikethisshow
Lol. I loved it. It was funny, I sort of got the vibe that she had been pushing herself to write an article about it ever since it happened. She seemed to be pushing the subject. And I think she just gave in and decided she wanted to write it. Then she just wanted to get it published. Just because it were 'her' story. Maybe not the issue itself.

It was also funny how she decided to go to the daily planet even after "Dark Thursday". Lol

I found it funny too.

I also like the fact that her article is about Clark and she doesn't even know it.

[muffinpeddler]

Damn it. A lightswitch move. Gradual, Al & Miles, Gradual!

[Jess4302]

Well I have read fanfics that handled that a lot better but I guess 2 positives from this would be that Lois is finally getting into her destiny and that Clark was kind of the reason as to why...

[muffinpeddler]

what a lightswitch move. That should have been played out over at least three episodes.

[biaaly]

K, well, I'm totally a Lois gal, but I think they definitely could have handled her foray into Journalism ALOT better than they did. But nonetheless shes in it now, and yes it did seem like a huge lightswitch but it can only get better...

[lastdaughterofkrypton]

Originally posted by khufu
I'll admit that I'm not a Lois fan, but honestly I don't even think Lois fans will appreciate how this was done.

You are naive don't you? :confused:

[Jess4302]

Hopefully they will at least develop it more...she said she thought she found her calling plus let's not forget she is only writting for the Inquisitor, to me this is kind of her first step especially since it seems she is still Martha's COS.

I loved Clark's quote early in the episode though "You know Lois, she won't stop digging until she hits China!"

[biaaly]

Yeah they definitely could have handled it alot better, and maybe oh say, have her cousin NOT laugh at her! But anyway, it'll only move her forward, so keep positive and watch out for the Chlarker and Chloisers who I'm sure have so MANY good things to say about Lois! LOL *Sigh*

[Hurricain]

Think about it though. Of all the things that Lois has seen or been a part of, she never wrote a story about them (other then a school thing once.)

Yet a barn door flys into a field, granted thats odd but this is her inspiration to go into journalism. HAHA. Lois Lane's first story, about aliens. Wow and I thought they couldn't do anymore damage to Lois Lane, I was wrong.

She has also stated once or twice that she would rather die than to write Journalism, but now thats her life ambition. Please, lame, lame, lame.

To make matterns even more unbelievable, she decides to go into journalism in one episode. One episode. That is a lightswitch.

I'm ready for next weeks lightswitch. Clark and Lois attraction. Just a guess.

[MBCorp]

I'm just glad that they've finally taken the plunge!

[HowardFilms]

Originally posted by lastdaughterofkrypton
You are naive don't you? :confused:

To quote superman.

"That is possibly the worst grammar I have ever heard. Possibly."

[F-Stop Blues]

Originally posted by MBCorp
I'm just glad that they've finally taken the plunge!

Word. Its about time.

[RamonaE]

I think it happened way too quickly for my taste. I think she should have mentioned that she wanted to start writing for a few episodes and then nail a job at the inquisitor.

I'm happy that she's writing but it happened way too fast. They should have had her get interested in writing last season when she said "she couldn't let go of things," and Chloe said that's usually how it starts (meaning the desire for journalism).

[F-Stop Blues]

Well she only has 13 episodes so you dont want to wait on a story arc for her.

[VisionGirl]

Originally posted by khufu
I'll admit that I'm not a Lois fan, but honestly I don't even think Lois fans will appreciate how this was done.

You can cite me on this one, because I am most definately NOT happy (for reasons I have previously stated).

Hey! I think that's the first time we've ever agreed on something!

[Jess4302]

Originally posted by Hurricain
Lois Lane's first story, about aliens. Wow and I thought they couldn't do anymore damage to Lois Lane, I was wrong. I don't really find this all that bad since when you think about it some of her biggest stories in the future will be about aliens and Superman himself.

Just the whole story itself (the barn door) was weird to me. Definitely not the best way they could have written this.

[biaaly]

Hmm that is true... good point!

[myankskent]

It was rushed with Lois, no doubt about it. I can understand how people are upset. Unfortunately, TPTB love creating lightswitches on this show. As a Lois fan, I'm just glad that she is not at the Daily Planet and that she is writing trashy stories. Now I want to see her battle her way to the top. I don't want to see her become the top reporter at the Inquisitor by next episode. She needs to face struggle.

[biaaly]

Isn't anyone else upset that when she went to Chloe, Chloe practically laughed at her?

[HowardFilms]

No...how dare she even expect Chloe to tolerate her presence...er, I mean...

[Jess4302]

Originally posted by myankskent
As a Lois fan, I'm just glad that she is not at the Daily Planet and that she is writing trashy stories. Now I want to see her battle her way to the top. I don't want to see her become the top reporter at the Inquisitor by next episode. She needs to face struggle. Same here. Although they lightswitched the interest in journalism I find it good to see that she is going to have to work her way up to the top.

[Deana]

Her journalism instinct has been ignited. It was alreadly slightly kindled with the missions she had with her cousin in the previous seasons.
Does that mean she's suddenly Jane Pauly? No.

Small step in the right direction? Yes.

Could it have been handled better? We are talking about Smallville, of course YES.

Your really smoking something if you think I'm disappointed in Lois. That's my girl.

Let them laugh Lois. We know you will prove yourself! ^_~

[MBCorp]

Originally posted by RamonaE
I think it happened way too quickly for my taste. I think she should have mentioned that she wanted to start writing for a few episodes and then nail a job at the inquisitor.

I'm happy that she's writing but it happened way too fast. They should have had her get interested in writing last season when she said "she couldn't let go of things," and Chloe said that's usually how it starts (meaning the desire for journalism).

It was definitely rushed and lightswitchy, but I'm just happy that they've started it. I don't know, I guess I just don't expect much when it comes to the writing of this show so wasn't all that surprised by the way Lois' interest in journalism was handled. :\

[biaaly]

Thats true, how many times did she go with Chloe or Clark to investigate something? So, really it doesn't seem like a lightswitch but then it does now that she is physically writing her own.. I don't know it just seemed fast, then again this IS smallville like you said lol

[Deana]

Originally posted by biaaly
Isn't anyone else upset that when she went to Chloe, Chloe practically laughed at her?

I was surprised, but just let it have been the other way around. You would not hear the end of it.

The Chloe/Lois isn't being handled that well this season. I mean, I would've like the see Chloe go see Lois in the hospital in the season opener, but I don't think she mentions Lois being hurt at all.

[Jess4302]

I didn't mind the laughing that much mostly because she didn't read it past the title.....

[biaaly]

Yeah I so miss the Chlo-Lo dynamic. I really hope they bring the cousins love back. And hopefully as Lois gets further into Journalism Chloe will take her more seriously

[khufu]

Originally posted by biaaly
Isn't anyone else upset that when she went to Chloe, Chloe practically laughed at her? Well, Chlo-Lo have a great relationship. So the way that came off to me was 1) obviously, Chloe has to put up a smoke screen to protect the secret and 2) I don't think Chloe was really taking her serious anyway, just based on previous statements about journalism that Lois has made in the past. That's why at the end when she talked about finding her calling, both Clark and Chloe were looking at her like they didn't believe her.... actually, I think the entire audience had that same reaction :\

They should have had her say something like "you know, I really started getting into it once I got going. I think I might just write a few more articles and see where it takes me." Then 2/3 episodes later she can realize that she's found her calling. I mean, either way she's still be starting at the same time, there's just no need to have her go from 0 to full speed in one episode, it does no one any good really. That's not to say TPTB can't fix it by evening out things from here on, but the start of it was just.... geez.

[biaaly]

Yeah its bad when even us Lois fans are like wtf?

[cotton candy girl]

Originally posted by MBCorp
It was definitely rushed and lightswitchy, but I'm just happy that they've started it. I don't know, I guess I just don't expect much when it comes to the writing of this show so wasn't all that surprised by the way Lois' interest in journalism was handled. :\

Exactly. I'm like, "what do people expect from Al/ Miles?".

[biaaly]

HAHA its sad that were not supposed to expect anything good out of the creators lol

[Superman_Beyond]

I see it this way. Lois sees this barn door come out of nowhere fall and almost kill her. She tells CLark and Martha about it and they dismiss it as nothing. Then goes to her cousin who is always talking about paranormal things and even she dismisses it also. So this event keeps going through her head and she wants someone to listen her and take her serious so she writes an article about it. In that process she really gets into it and realizes that she does like it. Even though i do like it i don't like that it was rushed. I think its because of the last minute script changes cuz i believe Craig said that she wasnt even in sneeze at first.

[Naomi]

Lightswitch!

[mayumi]

i think the writers were aiming to make the whole situation funny and the jump into writing a funny situation caused by clark's sneezing. not just that, the fact that both clark and chloe were trying to persuade her from not digging more into the whole flying barn door story by covering it up with weather and barometric pressure etc.

so its basically chole and clark that gave her that story. she had a story just no evidence to prove anything since well her cousin to whom she is very loyal to said that there was nothing interesting in what happened so instead we get global warming vs aliens story perfect for her new newspaper she is writing for.

without evidence we can only make up theories and thats exactly the fun loving lois did.

[lastdaughterofkrypton]

Originally posted by HowardFilms
To quote superman.

"That is possibly the worst grammar I have ever heard. Possibly."

Sorry :( English is not my first language...Can you write it right for me to learn? :)

[SnarkMasterJ]

How about this...they're giving "Iconic Lois Lane" a lightswitch, writing for a questionable and often trashy newspaper. If the fans aren't pissed, they should be.

[cotton candy girl]

Originally posted by Naomi
Lightswitch!

TPTB! :p :) :lol:

[chlarklove]

I can't believe people aren't mentioning the fact that "Lois Lane" called The DAILY PLANET a "stuffy, pseudo-intellectual rag"!!! HELLO!! She totally dissed her future place of work! That's one of the many reasons she's not Lois Lane.

And she was not only turned down by first, The Ledger, but then The Daily Planet, so she had to go to the only other option she could find.... The Inquisitor. Which has been proven on this show to be the lowest of all lows in the journalism world.

Also, she didn't even INVESTIGATE the barn door story anyways. She just accepted Chloe's story at face value and then wrote a story about it, coupled with an undertone of "look what almost happened to ME.. it could've KILLED me!!!" That's not a real investigative reporter.

"Lois" also said Chloe was jealous of her. And where does she get off saying that? What exactly should Chloe be jealous of??

I'm not even gonna get into the last scene because there was so much ridiculous in it I don't even know where to start.

This was the lightswitchiest lightswitch to end all lightswitches.

[dreamscometrue]

I think it's awesome.
I loved how she can't spell anything, that part didn't change.
One step closer to her destiny

[myankskent]

Originally posted by SnarkMasterJ
How about this...they're giving "Iconic Lois Lane" a lightswitch, writing for a questionable and often trashy newspaper. If the fans aren't pissed, they should be.

How about this...they make "The Iconic Clark Kent" a complete moron most of the time, he dropped out of school, thinks his powers are a curse and who refuses to accept his destiny. Fans are pissed about that but they are still watching. Lois' transition to journalism is just as bad as the character development for every other character on this show, IMO.

[Naomi]

Originally posted by chlarklove
"Lois" also said Chloe was jealous of her. And where does she get off saying that? What exactly should Chloe be jealous of??

Absolutely nothing

[chunkeymonkey1981]

Ok by no means am I a EDLois fan..but if I was I would be pissed. I would want more development than that and to have the moment she realizes her destiny to be treated as more than comic relief and so light and fluffy and lightswitchy..even chloe and clark gave her wtf? looks....It just seems so...off.

If I was a EDLois fan I would be pissed bc I would think that as ILL she deserves more--a better more realistc way to transition into her destiny.

Also the whole calling the DP a "pseudo intellectual rag" is not cool...I wouldnt want a Lois Lane that bad mouths her dream paper...

[dreamscometrue]

I'm glad she finally taken that step.

[Slytherin Princess]

eh at least she's writing something... `=P

[SnarkMasterJ]

Originally posted by myankskent
How about this...they make "The Iconic Clark Kent" a complete moron most of the time, he dropped out of school, thinks his powers are a curse and who refuses to accept his destiny. Fans are pissed about that but they are still watching. Lois' transition to journalism is just as bad as the character development for every other character on this show, IMO.

And yet...we weren't talking about every other character on this show. We're talking about Lois. That's some mighty powerful deflection.

[Jess4302]

Originally posted by myankskent
How about this...they make "The Iconic Clark Kent" a complete moron most of the time, he dropped out of school, thinks his powers are a curse and who refuses to accept his destiny. Fans are pissed about that but they are still watching. Lois' transition to journalism is just as bad as the character development for every other character on this show, IMO. Amen. They have done far worse for 5 seasons with Iconic Clark Kent/Superman who is by far the most important character.

The point is if they give that kind of development for the most vital character what can we except from the secondary characters?

[boywithbluehanger]

I think that the journalism transition was handled so poorly that it made ED look like she didnt know her own role!

Bad writing VERY lightswitchy, it made her seem like she had a writing passion all this time. I was upset about that, rushed doesnt even begin to explain it.

Oh well....I guess i'll just be happy that she's a poor speller and a dream stealer :)

[biaaly]

Well, she doesn't know it's her future paper yet. Remember, shes just starting out! Thats what people need to see. Shes not the Lois Lane at the DP YET.

[Deana]

This Iconic Lois Lane fan realizes you have to crawl before you can walk. I would've hated it more if that article was suddenly on the front page of the Daily Planet where it didn't deserve to be.

This Iconoic Lois Lane fan enjoys the irony of her insulting the Daily Planet, as much as she is insulting by the supposed Iconic Clark Kent's stupidity.

[Superman_Beyond]

Originally posted by chunkeymonkey1981
Ok by no means am I a EDLois fan..but if I was I would be pissed. I would want more development than that and to have the moment she realizes her destiny to be treated as more than comic relief and so light and fluffy and lightswitchy..even chloe and clark gave her wtf? looks....It just seems so...off.

If I was a EDLois fan I would be pissed bc I would think that as ILL she deserves more--a better more realistc way to transition into her destiny.

Also the whole calling the DP a "pseudo intellectual rag" is not cool...I wouldnt want a Lois Lane that bad mouths her dream paper...

Its obvious she really doesnt feel that way considering the DP is the first place she went to publish her article.

[VisionGirl]

"Lois" also said Chloe was jealous of her. And where does she get off saying that? What exactly should Chloe be jealous of??

Actually - that brings up a semi-related part that struck me. Now, first, I'm pretty sure Lois was just being facetious. BUT Chloe's response was odd. She said "I am jealous of you Lois but not for your writing abilities" - or something to that effect.

THAT made me do a double take.


And I agree with all that say Chlo-Lo is off this season. It's my favorite part of the show so I find it depressing.

[cotton candy girl]

Originally posted by Superman_Beyond
Its obvious she really doesnt feel that way considering the DP is the first place she went to publish her article.

Good point. She was probably lashing out a little when she realized she didn't have a chance of getting published at the DP.

[biaaly]

Yeah, thats what I was wondering.. what is Chloe jealous of?

[myankskent]

Originally posted by SnarkMasterJ
And yet...we weren't talking about every other character on this show. We're talking about Lois. That's some mighty powerful deflection.

Well I think it's unfair to judge one character without taking the other characters into consideration. You can call it a deflection, I call it looking at the show as a whole and realizing what I am watching week after week. But if they can't get Clark right, the star character of this show, I'm not going to go nuts on Lois.

[biaaly]

Originally posted by cotton candy girl
Good point. She was probably lashing out a little when she realized she didn't have a chance of getting published at the DP.

Her future self will :D

[Slytherin Princess]

Originally posted by VisionGirl
Actually - that brings up a semi-related part that struck me. Now, first, I'm pretty sure Lois was just being facetious. BUT Chloe's response was odd. She said "I am jealous of you Lois but not for your writing abilities" - or something to that effect.

THAT made me do a double take.

yes! i did notice that line. what was that about?

[cotton candy girl]

Originally posted by biaaly
Her future self will :D

I know. ;)

[RedDwarfette]

Definite lightswitch. I am really surprised they made it happen in one episode rather than developing it over two or three. Reminds one of Lana sudden urge to be an artist and study art in Paris in one episode. Admittedly, Lois has written an article [or was that two?] for a high school paper and been exposed to reporting via Chloe and Clark... If they continue along canon lines, obviously she has to begin writing at some point but after all the times she said she didn't like journalism, it seems a complete 180. Also, the story? As a previous poster pointed out Ginsu boy was way more weird and newsworthy than a falling door. Oh well.

[RamonaE]

Originally posted by biaaly
Isn't anyone else upset that when she went to Chloe, Chloe practically laughed at her?

That was written a little weird? I've never seen Chloe be mean to Lois. That was kind of mean.

[cotton candy girl]

Originally posted by myankskent
Well I think it's unfair to judge one character without taking the other characters into consideration. You can call it a deflection, I call it looking at the show as a whole and realizing what I am watching week after week. But if they can't get Clark right, the star character of this show, I'm not going to go nuts on Lois.

Word.

[SnarkMasterJ]

Originally posted by myankskent
Well I think it's unfair to judge one character without taking the other characters into consideration. You can call it a deflection, I call it looking at the show as a whole and realizing what I am watching week after week. But if they can't get Clark right, the star character of this show, I'm not going to go nuts on Lois.

No one's saying we're all supposed to turn a blind eye to what goes on in the show as a whole. No one was even talking about that. But the thread indicates that there's going to be discussion about Lois. So it shouldn't surprise you that maybe...there's discussion about Lois. You don't have to agree with someone's opinion, but trying to discredit other people for doing what the thread indicates in their own way is bad tact and no way to debate.

[Slytherin Princess]

Originally posted by myankskent
Well I think it's unfair to judge one character without taking the other characters into consideration. You can call it a deflection, I call it looking at the show as a whole and realizing what I am watching week after week. But if they can't get Clark right, the star character of this show, I'm not going to go nuts on Lois.

WORD!

[chunkeymonkey1981]

Its obvious she really doesnt feel that way considering the DP is the first place she went to publish her article.

It seemed to me that she only went there bc Chloe worked there--oh and it wasn't her first place. If you listen to her speech she saysd the Ledger had already turned her down bc they were *too small minded*

[Jess4302]

Originally posted by cotton candy girl
Good point. She was probably lashing out a little when she realized she didn't have a chance of getting published at the DP. Exactly. I would kind of expect any Lois to do that, if someone said to her what she did wasn't good enough for something I could hear her saying something like "the hell with it then I am too good for this anyway" which is what she did. Of course once she improves and goes more into journalism (She is still Martha's COS) I think her dream paper will become the Daily Planet and hopefully by then a certain Perry White will be editor in chief

[VisionGirl]

It was only two seasons ago that Chloe was salivating at the idea of her big cousin joining her in the bullpen.

How do we get from there to Dream Crusher Sullivan?

Chloe doesn't have to stroke Lois' ego, but I mean come on.

Maybe that's what seems off about the cousins. Chloe's unfaltering loyalty is appearing to ... falter. It's screwing up the dynamic.

[chlarklove]

Its obvious she really doesnt feel that way considering the DP is the first place she went to publish her article.

No it wasn't. She was initially turned down by The Ledger.


Yeah, thats what I was wondering.. what is Chloe jealous of?

I thought maybe it was her boobs/body. IMO, Chloe seems to not have very much self-esteem in the area of her appearance.

[myankskent]

Originally posted by SnarkMasterJ
No one's saying we're all supposed to turn a blind eye to what goes on in the show as a whole. No one was even talking about that. But the thread indicates that there's going to be discussion about Lois. So it shouldn't surprise you that maybe...there's discussion about Lois. You don't have to agree with someone's opinion, but trying to discredit other people for doing what the thread indicates in their own way is bad tact and no way to debate.

I'm not debating anything. I said that I thought that it was a lightswitch. Mentioning the bad writing when it comes to the characters who are even more important to this show than Lois is a fair thing to do, IMO.

[Superman_Beyond]

I thought she said she didnt want to go to the Ledger?

[Deana]

Originally posted by VisionGirl
It was only two seasons ago that Chloe was salivating at the idea of her big cousin joining her in the bullpen.

How do we get from there to Dream Crusher Sullivan?

Chloe doesn't have to stroke Lois' ego, but I mean come on.

Maybe that's what seems off about the cousins. Chloe's unfaltering loyalty is appearing to ... falter. It's screwing up the dynamic.

I agree. Chloe/Lois scenes used to make episodes sometimes. I can't lose those moments.

[Coyote]

Lois is of course supposed to become a reporter, but for this version of the character it seems kind of forced and contrived.

The Chloe character is a lot more like what you would expect a younger version of the traditional Lois character to be. Chloe is basically a Lois Junior. Erica Durant's character is something else. I like Erica's character, but since she isn't the old Lois character at all, it doesn't quite fit to force her to suddenly become a journalist. It would be more interesting if the Smallville Lois never became a reporter at all.

[SnarkMasterJ]

Originally posted by myankskent
I'm not debating anything. I said that I thought that it was a lightswitch. Mentioning the bad writing when it comes to the characters who are even more important to this show than Lois is a fair thing to do, IMO.

Well that's your perrogative. But like I said...no one was talking about Clark. He's due plenty of speculation, but this thread isn't about Clark or anyone else.

[VisionGirl]

Originally posted by Coyote
Lois is of course supposed to become a reporter, but for this version of the character it seems kind of forced and contrived.

The Chloe character is a lot more like what you would expect a younger version of the traditional Lois character to be. Chloe is basically a Lois Junior. Erica Durant's character is something else. I like Erica's character, but since she isn't the old Lois character at all, it doesn't quite fit to force her to suddenly become a journalist. It would be more interesting if the Smallville Lois never became a reporter at all.

Not entirely true. In LnC Lois had zero interest in journalism when she was younger and eventually got into the field solely to spite her father. She later discovered she loved it. So it's not w/o precedent.

[lexs&os]

It was very lightswitchy and amusingly appropriate that the next time EDLois is seen is after the clouds are blown away and *it's light outside, the sun is now shining* just like a lightswitch....off and now it's on.

[star999]

Like Chloe and Clark said "So much for journalistic integrity"

Can we assume that her editor did a major revamp of that article as it was turned into an "alien expose" because I'm assuming that Lois wouldn't have too much to say on that subject.

As it's been pointed out, Lois didn't really investigate anything as she pretty much just spun what Chloe told her into a story. The very next day, it's published - I cannot exactly see Lois coming up with something to add to her article about aliens in that short amount of time. It's realistic to assume that her editor would have had to do a lot of revamping to come up with the final product of that article as its tone would have completely changed from what EDLois originally came to them with.

I have issue with a Lois Lane who lets her work be used to forward the agenda of a tabloid, with no regard for truth. It's a gross misconduct in terms of her personal integrity and ethics! When Chloe investigated weird things when she was in Smallville, she looked for evidence to back her story up.

And a bad speller? That does not make a Lois Lane IMO, especially with spell check. Maybe that was cute back in the days of Margot Kidder when they used typewriters and had to rely soley on their own spelling skills - but now there's technology to avoid errors such as that better left to the days of grade school or online chat. When you're presenting a piece of your work - you try your hardest to ensure that it's up to par! Another point to show that her editor would have needed to work A LOT on her story - which is fine if it was stylistic editing (which we have no evidence for/against) but small technicalities as such should be able to be handled by a reporter. It shows that one cares for their work.

If Lois really feels like this is her calling, I think she should be showing a bit more ownership over it as well.

Obviously I thought this ep was a HUGE lightswitch as it gave NO reason for her sudden interest in journalism when she's already been exposed to it for 2 years. If EDLois is truly ILL - I wish they would have stretched this out and built it slowly. Of course, if she's not ILL - it makes much more sense :)

[Jess4302]

Originally posted by VisionGirl
Not entirely true. In LnC Lois had zero interest in journalism when she was younger and eventually got into the field solely to spite her father. She later discovered she loved it. So it's not w/o precedent. Plus everything on this show seems to start at the polar opposite of what it will be in the future:

Clark hates to fly

Clark and Lex were the best of friends

Lex was basically a "good guy" at first

Clark thinks his powers are a curse

Clark also doesn't have much of an interest in journalism

Clark and Lois are not found of each other at first

And there are probably more examples. I guess they just love the irony.

[khufu]

Originally posted by VisionGirl
It was only two seasons ago that Chloe was salivating at the idea of her big cousin joining her in the bullpen.

How do we get from there to Dream Crusher Sullivan?

Chloe doesn't have to stroke Lois' ego, but I mean come on.

Maybe that's what seems off about the cousins. Chloe's unfaltering loyalty is appearing to ... falter. It's screwing up the dynamic. I honestly don't think that had anything to do with Chloe not wanting Lois to be in journalism, I think that was all about her not wanting Lois to pursue that story just because it centers around the Kent farm. After Zod, the last thing they need is paranormal publicity at the Kent's place.

[chunkeymonkey1981]

I thought she said she didnt want to go to the Ledger

No...she says how she is turned down by the Ledger bc they are "small minded"

[VisionGirl]

Originally posted by khufu
I honestly don't think that had anything to do with Chloe not wanting Lois to be in journalism, I think that was all about her not wanting Lois to pursue that story just because it centers around the Kent farm. After Zod, the last thing they need is paranormal publicity at the Kent's place.

Let's go two for two today...

Okay, I will grant you that Chloe had a vested interest in keeping the story out of the papers and that it was pretty flight of fancy for Lois to barge into the DP and assume her article would be published... but weren't you getting a dismissive tone from Chloe that we previously haven't seen? It's largely reactionary and hard to define but it just felt... chilly.

I went back and rewatched that scene and it just gave me a bad feeling.

And if we draw a parallel to Facade --- Lois is reading her work, and scoffs and her own typo, at which Chloe laughs and tells her she loves it and excitedly welcomes Lois to the world of investigative journalism.

Here we have Chloe pointing out the flaws. And instead of encouraging her to pursue it - but maybe with a better story - she's dismissive. Where was the knowing smile? The "I KNEW you liked it!" that you would expect from her?

Am I totally off base here?

[D.M.A.]

Originally posted by khufu
I honestly don't think that had anything to do with Chloe not wanting Lois to be in journalism, I think that was all about her not wanting Lois to pursue that story just because it centers around the Kent farm. After Zod, the last thing they need is paranormal publicity at the Kent's place.
agree clark said they had a prob wit lois wantin answers and chloe said she'd handle it.I think she was happy lois did an article but she was also tryin to sway her away from the kent farm.Clark has enough probs wit ppl snoopin around,so I wouldn't look at chloe reactions as a negative thing.She was just tryin to help clark out...As for her sudden interest its funny she's seens sum crazy things happen in sv yet she all of a sudden wants answers,didn't like that part.But I am glad she is headin in her iconic way,so her reason is my only downplay to it but the rest was fine wit me.no matter what paper she writes for,if her reason would have been better I would have luved it.Instead I'll settle for it,her scenes tho were amusin nonetheless

[Superman_Beyond]

I agree VisionGirl.

[RedKalEL]

i think it's great ot see her get into her future carrerr get out of this politcal stuff i never understood what was the point of that other then to see her look hot as usual

[D.M.A.]

Originally posted by biaaly
Yeah its bad when even us Lois fans are like wtf?
haha now this comment had me rollin,cause I was wonderin what sum lois fans were thinkin.I think her reasons were off but just seein her lean towards journalism is cool.Jus wished they slowly pushed her to it,maybe they'll slow down by the next few episodes wit more articles.But it was definitely rushed,I agree wit MBCorp tho,nowadayz I dont expect much from AlMiles wit development.So I'm happy wit what I get,even if it was lightswitchy in sum way

[Hugo]

Well at least she is becoming a journalist now, that is the important thing. The story she got published might be a joke as well as the publication she works for, but it's a means to an end because she is becoming the Lois Lane who we all know. I think it will be fun to watch her starting to becoming more serious about journalism as the season continues. I can't wait. I'm waiting for Clark to follow suit, I've never even seen him pick up a pen.

[D.M.A.]

Originally posted by VisionGirl
Let's go two for two today...

Okay, I will grant you that Chloe had a vested interest in keeping the story out of the papers and that it was pretty flight of fancy for Lois to barge into the DP and assume her article would be published... but weren't you getting a dismissive tone from Chloe that we previously haven't seen? It's largely reactionary and hard to define but it just felt... chilly.

I went back and rewatched that scene and it just gave me a bad feeling.

And if we draw a parallel to Facade --- Lois is reading her work, and scoffs and her own typo, at which Chloe laughs and tells her she loves it and excitedly welcomes Lois to the world of investigative journalism.

Here we have Chloe pointing out the flaws. And instead of encouraging her to pursue it - but maybe with a better story - she's dismissive. Where was the knowing smile? The "I KNEW you liked it!" that you would expect from her?

Am I totally off base here?
well she did seem alil proud of lois at the end in the barn after it was published,her only downplay was the alien comment.But she seemd happy after she saw lois took it serious.So its not as bad as ur thinkin

[SnarkMasterJ]

Originally posted by star999
Like Chloe and Clark said "So much for journalistic integrity"

Can we assume that her editor did a major revamp of that article as it was turned into an "alien expose" because I'm assuming that Lois wouldn't have too much to say on that subject.

As it's been pointed out, Lois didn't really investigate anything as she pretty much just spun what Chloe told her into a story. The very next day, it's published - I cannot exactly see Lois coming up with something to add to her article about aliens in that short amount of time. It's realistic to assume that her editor would have had to do a lot of revamping to come up with the final product of that article as its tone would have completely changed from what EDLois originally came to them with.

I have issue with a Lois Lane who lets her work be used to forward the agenda of a tabloid, with no regard for truth. It's a gross misconduct in terms of her personal integrity and ethics! When Chloe investigated weird things when she was in Smallville, she looked for evidence to back her story up.

And a bad speller? That does not make a Lois Lane IMO, especially with spell check. Maybe that was cute back in the days of Margot Kidder when they used typewriters and had to rely soley on their own spelling skills - but now there's technology to avoid errors such as that better left to the days of grade school or online chat. When you're presenting a piece of your work - you try your hardest to ensure that it's up to par! Another point to show that her editor would have needed to work A LOT on her story - which is fine if it was stylistic editing (which we have no evidence for/against) but small technicalities as such should be able to be handled by a reporter. It shows that one cares for their work.

If Lois really feels like this is her calling, I think she should be showing a bit more ownership over it as well.

Obviously I thought this ep was a HUGE lightswitch as it gave NO reason for her sudden interest in journalism when she's already been exposed to it for 2 years. If EDLois is truly ILL - I wish they would have stretched this out and built it slowly. Of course, if she's not ILL - it makes much more sense :)

Can I get a word?

[D.M.A.]

Originally posted by Hugo
Well at least she is becoming a journalist now, that is the important thing. The story she got published might be a joke as well as the publication she works for, but it's a means to an end because she is becoming the Lois Lane who we all know. I think it will be fun to watch her starting to becoming more serious about journalism as the season continues. I can't wait. I'm waiting for Clark to follow suit, I've never even seen him pick up a pen.
true the story may have been a joke but that doesn't bother me since chloe story for the DP was pretty much the same.I just had a small prob wit her intentions to chase it because of the weirdness of sv,as if bein choked by super ken&barbie last season wasn't enough.Or a guy wit memory repo as she stated,the guy in forever.She's seen freakin things in that town but when she stated her reasons at the DP about pursuin it I saw a prob.Ur right its good she's leanin towards journalism but tptb could have gave a better reason than the weirdness in sv.Other than that I thought it was fine

[biaaly]

Originally posted by Hugo
Well at least she is becoming a journalist now, that is the important thing. The story she got published might be a joke as well as the publication she works for, but it's a means to an end because she is becoming the Lois Lane who we all know. I think it will be fun to watch her starting to becoming more serious about journalism as the season continues. I can't wait. I'm waiting for Clark to follow suit, I've never even seen him pick up a pen.

WORD. People talk about Lois all the time. They forget Clark also becomes a reporter AND her partner no less, yet I haven't seen him get into it either since the Torch.

[VisionGirl]

Err...watch the reaction Chloe gives her after she says "I think I've finally found my calling."

[savingpeoplething]

My thoughts on the "journalistic" turn with EDLois:

- I absolutely HATE that if ED's Lois is the real thing that a) she gets into it because SHE almost gets killed...not truth and justice, just self-protection b) she doesn't stand up for ethics / integrity by having her editor change it just because it might be more likely to sell papers
- Yeah, yeah, we get it...she can't spell...I know it's cute because it goes back to MKLois, but really, it just makes her seem really stupid.
- Who the heck does EDLois think she is? Waltzes in there and wants to present her article to Pauline when CHLOE (with journalism in her blood, an internship at The DP, a high school education and is now in college, and five years paper experience) even got a hard time presenting an article that had eyewitness accounts and CDC reports...just ridiculous, and it's funny because you can tell that Chloe KNOWS it. :) "Whoa...That's a lot of words..." Heh.
- Chloe is SO superior to EDLois in this episode in terms of journalistic ability, it's just awesome. I love that Chloe says, "You're right, I might be jealous of you, but words have nothing to do with it." Oh man, that's awesome.
- EDLois calls The Planet, "a stuffy, pseudo-intellectual rag"...DON'T EVEN call my DP that.

It's sad, really.
"Lois Lane" getting into journalism because of self-centered reasons, not writing a good article, not able to sell it to any papers except for a tabloid rag, and then doesn't care about writing the truth, as long as the exaggerated story sells papers and gets her name published on the front page.

Not any Lois Lane I know.

[VisionGirl]

Chloe is SO superior to EDLois in this episode in terms of journalistic ability, it's just awesome. I love that Chloe says, "You're right, I might be jealous of you, but words have nothing to do with it." Oh man, that's awesome.

How is that awesome? It's catty. And completely un Chlo-Lo

[biaaly]

Originally posted by savingpeoplething
My thoughts on the "journalistic" turn with EDLois:

- I absolutely HATE that if ED's Lois is the real thing that a) she gets into it because SHE almost gets killed...not truth and justice, just self-protection b) she doesn't stand up for ethics / integrity by having her editor change it just because it might be more likely to sell papers
- Yeah, yeah, we get it...she can't spell...I know it's cute because it goes back to MKLois, but really, it just makes her seem really stupid.
- Who the heck does EDLois think she is? Waltzes in there and wants to present her article to Pauline when CHLOE even got a hard time presenting an article that had eyewitness accounts and CDC reports...just ridiculous, and it's funny because you can tell that Chloe KNOWS it. :) "Whoa...That's a lot of words..." Heh.
- Chloe is SO superior to EDLois in this episode in terms of journalistic ability, it's just awesome. I love that Chloe says, "You're right, I might be jealous of you, but words have nothing to do with it." Oh man, that's awesome.
- EDLois calls The Planet, "a stuffy, pseudo-intellectual rag"...DON'T EVEN call my DP that.

It's sad, really.
"Lois Lane" getting into journalism because of self-centered reasons, not writing a good article, not able to sell it to any papers except for a tabloid rag, and then doesn't care about writing the truth, as long as the exaggerated story sells papers and gets her name published on the front page.

Not any Lois Lane I know.

Not the Lois Lane you know BECAUSE shes NOT her iconic self yet! Helllo?? Shes just starting out! Just because it's like this now doesn't mean its going to stay that way! People always bash her for that stuff, but shes not going to be her Iconic self right away

[Ghost963]

i dunno, i personally am excited to see Lois stepping into her role of... well, Lois. There's many things that I am looking forward to when it comes to Lois and Clark's relationship, but at the same time, I forgot about many things that make Lois just Lois and the whole journalism thing is an excellent example of it. I'm happy for her.

As far as Chloe's reaction to her article, when I watched it I simply dismissed it as her wanting to take focus off the story since it involved Clark, but now that you mention it, she did seem a little dismissive in general.

Oh, and biaaly, it was never said that the article wasn't any good, she just can't spell. And as far as selling out her message with the aliens, no one would ever make it in this world if they didn't bend themselves slightly. You can't do great things without doing what other people want some of the time. You know?

[chlarklove]

Originally posted by savingpeoplething
It's sad, really.
"Lois Lane" getting into journalism because of self-centered reasons, not writing a good article, not able to sell it to any papers except for a tabloid rag, and then doesn't care about writing the truth, as long as the exaggerated story sells papers and gets her name published on the front page.

Not any Lois Lane I know.

Amen and Hallelujiah.


Originally posted by VisionGirl
How is that awesome? It's catty. And completely un Chlo-Lo

What about how catty it was of "Lois" to say Chloe was jealous of her? What's good for the goose...

IMO, I think they're pitting the girls against each other.

[Jess4302]

Originally posted by biaaly
Not the Lois Lane you know BECAUSE shes NOT her iconic self yet! Helllo?? Shes just starting out! Just because it's like this now doesn't mean its going to stay that way! People always bash her for that stuff, but shes not going to be her Iconic self right away I guess it all comes down to opinion. To some Chloe is Lois to others Lois is Lois. To me ED is my Lois. But then again if I was really that critical of these teenage versions of the characters than Jonathan Kent would have been my Superman and Lionel Luthor would have been my Lex Luthor....

[savingpeoplething]

Originally posted by VisionGirl
How is that awesome? It's catty. And completely un Chlo-Lo

I just happen to think it's awesome because as someone who used to work in TV News, I know real journalistic skills when I see it and Chloe just represented it like nobody's business in "Sneeze".
I just happened to think it was awesome that we saw the real deal vs. the wannabe version.

If it's catty, so be it :)

I hate that we see Chloe's progression as a writer and investigative journalist, see her struggles and her triumphs and then in one lazy effort, EDLois gets her name on the frontpage of a tabloid rag.

I cheer for the hard-working, educated, and truthseeker over the other option any day of the week.

I DID, however, like the Chloe/EDLois scenes because they're close and it's obvious, but I think it's a little arrogant for EDLois to think she's the next big thing when really, she knows nothing.

[VisionGirl]

On the Chlo-Lo front though - this episode ushered in an imporant Fanon-becomes-Canon element: Chloe calls Lois "Lo"

Lois has refered to herself as "Lo" on messages to Chloe (Krypto).
Lois has called Chloe "Chlo" (Gone)

And finally - much to the delight of fan fic writers' everywhere - "Lo" is now legit

ETA:


What about how catty it was of "Lois" to say Chloe was jealous of her? What's good for the goose...

Trust me, I wasn't a fan of that line either. I wasn't attempting to villify Chloe -- it just seemed like SHE was more obviously different.

If that makes sense.

[RedDwarfette]

Posted by VisionGirl: Here we have Chloe pointing out the flaws. And instead of encouraging her to pursue it - but maybe with a better story - she's dismissive. Where was the knowing smile? The "I KNEW you liked it!" that you would expect from her? Am I totally off base here? The way I see it was that if Lois is seriously considering making journalism her career she is going to have to pull up her game. Just writing an article doesn't automatically make it good or newsworthy, so she needs more experience if she to interest other papers in her writing. Spelling mistakes are a big no. Chloe as the far more experience reporter [at least at this stage] should for her cousins sake be honest about the article. No need to be rude, but the best thing she can do is help Lois develop her writing and journalistic skills even if that means being brutually truthful.

[Ghost963]

But she doesn't think she's the big thing. She's just got a knack for, what was it? Oh yeah: "digging until she hits China."

:)

[biaaly]

Well there was an interview with ED that said she will be learning more from Chloe this year. I don't recall exactly what she said, but there it is.

[VisionGirl]

Originally posted by savingpeoplething
[B]I just happen to think it's awesome because as someone who used to work in TV News, I know real journalistic skills when I see it and Chloe just represented it like nobody's business in "Sneeze".
I just happened to think it was awesome that we saw the real deal vs. the wannabe version.

If it's catty, so be it :)


So someone who wrote for their highschool paper is an expert?

And BOTH Chloe and Clark have acknowledged that Lois is a talented writer. Heck, her one article for the Torch garnered fan mail.

And I don't think Chloe should be so critical of Lois' choice of subject matter - didn't she bring Kahn an article on vampires?

[chlarklove]

But she doesn't think she's the big thing. She's just got a knack for, what was it? Oh yeah: "digging until she hits China."

Okay. And when has she ever dug so much that she never quit?

Like when the door came off the hinges and landed across the yard in Blank and Chloe explained it then, why didn't she investigate THAT? Or what about in Exposed, why didn't she try to get the bad guy put away? Or how about when she wanted dirt on Lex, why didn't she try to investigate herself (instead giving it to Chloe), and then just... gave up?

Yeah... RETCON.


Well there was an interview with ED that said she will be learning more from Chloe this year. I don't recall exactly what she said, but there it is.

I believe Erica said in the interview that she would be USING Chloe for articles. Take that as you will.

Huh. She kinda already did with her first article.


And I don't think Chloe should be so critical of Lois' choice of subject matter - didn't she bring Kahn an article on vampires?

No. That was the HOOK. The article was about the DISEASE. And she had lots of proof.

[VisionGirl]

No. That was the HOOK. The article was about the DISEASE. And she had lots of proof

Ooookay. Then how about the billion articles she wrote for the Torch?

[RamonaE]

Originally posted by VisionGirl
Ooookay. Then how about the billion articles she wrote for the Torch?

From what I recall (and perhaps the dvd junkies can clarify) Lois wrote 1 article for the Torch.

[VisionGirl]

Originally posted by RamonaE
From what I recall (and perhaps the dvd junkies can clarify) Lois wrote 1 article for the Torch.

I was talking about Chloe.


And Clark said Lois wrote at least a couple for the Torch.

[RobynAdele0406]

Who over the age of 10 can't spell weather and tornado? Atleast MKLois misspelled BIG words. This just makes EDLois look dumb. I mean misspelled word in the TITLE of an article? That's worse than a misspelled word in the body of the article. "Wild Wheather Hits Freakville"?

And yes, it's a lightswitch. She's found her calling in one episode and has never been happier? I'm not buying.

[savingpeoplething]

Originally posted by VisionGirl
So someone who wrote for their highschool paper is an expert?

Was EDITOR of the high school newspaper, beat out hundreds of other applicants for an internship during her freshman year of high school, impressed Perry White and now, her current Editor-In-Chief of The DAILY PLANET.

Yeah, I'd say that Chloe knows what she's doing.

Does she have more to learn and more growing to do in her career path? Oh, sure. We all do. You never stop learning.

But, for a girl (EDLois) who wrote, what two articles 2 years ago and never really showed another interest in it, to all of a sudden get a frontpage byline is ridiculous.
The only thing that makes sense is that The Inquisitor is desperate and will take anything.

[RamonaE]

Originally posted by VisionGirl
I was talking about Chloe.


And Clark said Lois wrote at least a couple for the Torch.

Oh ok. I'm sure Chloe wrote a bunch.

But I only remember Lois writing 1 before she went back to college. I remember she started researching for the 2nd one and then got a collegiate reprieve. But perhaps someone who has the dvd's can clarify.

[VisionGirl]

Originally posted by RamonaE
Oh ok. I'm sure Chloe wrote a bunch.

But I only remember Lois writing 1 before she went back to college. I remember she started researching for the 2nd one and then got a collegiate reprieve. But perhaps someone who has the dvd's can clarify.

From Commencement:

Clark: Journalism. You ever thought about that? You wrote some half decent articles in your short lived career at the Torch.

Articles. Plural.


I just think the whole thing was poorly constructed - Lois looked like a giant joke. And they are tainting my Chlo-Lo. It's just bad all around.

[D.M.A.]

Originally posted by VisionGirl
From Commencement:

Clark: Journalism. You ever thought about that? You wrote some half decent articles in your short lived career at the Torch.

Articles. Plural.


I just think the whole thing was poorly constructed - Lois looked like a giant joke. And they are tainting my Chlo-Lo. It's just bad all around.
I took the articles line as just the report in fascade and the one in devoted where she actually was on her way out.So it was never stated that she finished the article or if chloe did it after she snapped out of the pom pom juice intil commencement.So yea I agree its plural,but obviously no more than 2 articles,which imo isn't quite enough just yet.Maybe after she starts chasin the Ga story she'll get better.

[khufu]

Originally posted by VisionGirl
Here we have Chloe pointing out the flaws. And instead of encouraging her to pursue it - but maybe with a better story - she's dismissive. Where was the knowing smile? The "I KNEW you liked it!" that you would expect from her?

Am I totally off base here? No. I got a different interpretation from it, but I could see how it might come off the way you describe it. I think if Chloe thought that Lois was really genuinely interested in journalism - as opposed to a passing curiosity - then she would have been much more supportive. But I think Chloe had a lot of reasons to not take her seriously. 1) there's all the past comments she's made, and 2) the fact that she had two glaring spelling errors on the front page tends to indicate a lack of professionalism. Now, I understand about the whole Lois spelling thing, but this is not some article that she's typing up on the fly, it's the finished product which, if she was serious about it, should have been spell checked. Bascially, that article WAS Lois' resume, and you don't have a bunch of spelling errors on your resume if you want people to take you seriously.


Err...watch the reaction Chloe gives her after she says "I think I've finally found my calling."I think it just sounded as out of character to Chloe as it did to the rest of us :\

[BadToad]

I was very, very open to Lois becoming interested in journalism, but the way they did it in this episode was very badly handled. Lois has surely seen things more incredible then a flying barn door, so the motivation was weak. Her pushiness with Chloe at the Planet seemed naive (not something I associate with Lois), and annoyingly egotistical. And then allowing her article to get mangled by the paper? I just didn't enjoy any aspect of it, and that depressed me, because I really wanted to like it and believe in it and embrace it. IMO

[ginnyfan]

Finally! Of all the things I thought when I thought about the spoilers for this episode... I didn't think it would be like this. It was funny. Really funny. And I liked it. I like that the just don't take themselves so seriously. There wasn't any magical music playing. Just Lois' determination and unquenchable enthusiasm. :) She was like a little girl. She was so proud of herself. I loved it. :) So unpredictable. IMHO. :D

She was full of joy! :D I'll bet she took the sudden sunshine as a good omen. LOL!

[sstray72]

I didn't get to see the episode, but from what I've read of it I'm saddened that Lois was lightswitched. I was hoping that the love for journalism would at least be gradual. But whatever.

[lastdaughterofkrypton]

Originally posted by BadToad
I was very, very open to Lois becoming interested in journalism, but the way they did it in this episode was very badly handled. Lois has surely seen things more incredible then a flying barn door, so the motivation was weak. Her pushiness with Chloe at the Planet seemed naive (not something I associate with Lois), and annoyingly egotistical. And then allowing her article to get mangled by the paper? I just didn't enjoy any aspect of it, and that depressed me, because I really wanted to like it and believe in it and embrace it. IMO

If it makes you feel better we all knew it was going to happen that way...Is like watching Titanic we all know is going to sink you just stay because you just need to see Leo dying with your own two eyes.
PS
I heard the bitterness thread on TWOP opens late tonight ;)

[Farm_Girl]

At this point, I haven't seen the episode, so I don't know what the expressions of the actors were and how the whole thing played out, but still based on your comments and the general setup of S6, IMHO:

When Lois came to Smallville, she had no intentions of stepping into journalism, though anvils were dropped here and there and she did some stuff in Facade and Devoted, she never took it seriously, Chloe knew this and even though she encouraged her, she never though Lois would step into journalism..

If now, Lois decides, for any reason, that she wants to be in journalism, we don't expect a writer with no prior experience and is a college dropout to get her article printed in DP.. so Inquisitor is her first step.. and if DP didn't print her article and she bashed it, it's only natural... Doesn't mean that she won't fall in love with DP in future.. which we know she will...

What's said about Chlo-Lo is sad.. I feel dissapointed already.. but the writers did say they'll have a friendly rivalry... May be for the first time, Chloe realized that Lois might step into journalism as a rival.. so she got a little threatened.. it is kind of a sibling rivalry..

I still hope they won't ruin the cousin's dynamic.. They can work as a team instead of rivals.. why not?

[Lostfan588]

i thought it was kinda amusing the way they lightswitched lois and made her all interested in reporting all of a sudden when shes been surrounded by abnormal events all this time and never really done a thing about it...im not too worried about it though...i think its good tptb are playing up both clois and chlois...it makes the show all that more interesting to watch and keeps, me at least, in suspense...lois just sounded very scripted tonight and the way she announced to clark and chloe "well i think i've finally found my calling" haha...i dunno the way she said it was amusing and not very convincing and even clark and chloe were laughing at her

....i like Lois though, i just think somethings obviously quite off w her character when it comes to being the ILL of this show...and after 5 years of chlark build up every season there is no way they can believably hook up this Lois with clark when every one knows her cousin chloe sullivan has been in love with Clark Kent since episode one...unless they kill off chloe...which they will not do because that would make no sense and kill the shows ratings ...plus that would make lois look really bad because she would always b living in chloes shadow

[chlarked_foever89]

I really dont like the way she gets into journalism though, over a damn door that falls out of the sky. and plus she suks, i mean the alien title!!!!what????

[God-Man]

I think it's great that Lois is really interested in journalism now, and she has Clark and his super sneezes to thank for it.

[TalkinMac]

It was so contrived. I mean I think it would have been more interesting since Lois was involved in all that political stuff that maybe could lead to an intrest in corrupt politicians and exposing them for the villians they are ala journalism.

But a tabloid about aliens which wasn't even her idea?

Also she just walked in their with her article and got a job, is that how it works even for tabs I thought there was a process or something. I just hope that she writes more stories and slowly makes her way up the ladder.

And actually I was a bit surprised by both Clarks and Chloes reactions maybe they were nervous about it because of the whole Clark has powers thing. And I definitely think Chloe meant she was jealous of Lois's looks.

[Farm_Girl]

I smell Clark/Lois/Chloe...

[lastdaughterofkrypton]

Originally posted by Farm_Girl
I smell Clark/Lois/Chloe...
Well every triangle has three sides...I heard ;)

[Jess4302]

I too found it kind of stupid a barn door of all things got her journalism interest going compared to all the other weird things that have happened in Smallville but then I thought about it and I realized unlike the other weird things that happen in Smallville no one believed her on this one because of Clark. Normally Chloe would jump at any weird thing happening but of course this time she couldn't because it dealt with Clark's secret, so really she wrote this article because no one would believe her...which is essentially why I would think someone would start writting.

[Krypto/DQ/]

I hate lightswitch.

[Khyla]

In Season 1 Ep. 4 "X-ray" :

Roger: "What do you want from me?"

Lex: "Your help. My father's obsessed with the Daily Planet. But I know the Inquisitor is read by the people. They're the ones I'm interested in. I will feed you stories and you will print them. Any negative stories about me you will kill. You'll be at my disposal 24/7."
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As someone else also mentioned here, I am surprised that Clark or Chloe isn't going to be worried that Lois's article's going to be published ANYWHERE. Especially since it mentions aliens. Maybe more will be covered about it in another ep. ???
:confused:

[Farm_Girl]

If Chloe hadn't known Clark's secret, she would be the first one to jump.. but since she discarded it in front of Lois.. that is what got Lois more curious.. I see Teri's 'Mad Dog Lane' already...

Lois might finally take shape.. don't pay attention to beginning guys.. since when has TPTB done anything sensibly..

Lois is in journalism.. YAY!!

[Naman is 1#]

Originally posted by biaaly
Isn't anyone else upset that when she went to Chloe, Chloe practically laughed at her?

Yeah, then she told Chloe she was jealous and maybe she was a bit.;) Everybody look out her comes Lois Lane on her way to conquer to journalism world. ;) :D


Originally posted by Farm_Girl
Lois might finally take shape.. don't pay attention to beginning guys.. since when has TPTB done anything sensibly..

Lois is in journalism.. YAY!!

It nice to see that were getting some charater development in Lois. The TBTP has been dragging the last a bit with their stories lately nice to see them move forward here.:D


Originally posted by lastdaughterofkrypton
Well every triangle has three sides...I heard ;)

Oh please noooooooooo triangles ! ! !

[khufu]

How do you have a spelling error in the title.... I mean, the TITLE??? Did she just write the article and then run out the door? Proofread? Spellcheck? Seriously, you don't have to be smart, microsoft can take care of that for you. That article is essentially her resume - she's approaching businesses and asking them for a job based soley on that paper. You don't submit a resume with spelling errors in it. They just keep making her worse and worse...

[Naman is 1#]

It's just a show dude everybody knows that you dont submit a resume with spelling errors. The TPTB just had throw that in just to remind us all the Lois cant spell. :p

[Chloe82]

Absolutely ridiculous.

No self-respecting Lois Lane would ever be caught reporting for something like The Inquisitor. But since she's never acted like a real Lois Lane in the first place, I guess that's not terribly surprising.

The only difference between before tonight and tonight? Now the characters (Clark and Chloe) are laughing at her, along with the audience. I'd say we've come full circle.

[Katarite]

I haven't seen the episode yet and I am already upset with how this is happening... But, I have been watching Smallville for years and I know that the writers are constantly pulling stuff like this. I'm glad I have a good imagination, because I am going to pretend that her entrance into journalism was more profound and that it didn't have anything to do with a barn door falling out of the sky :-P. I just hope they handle it better in future episodes. If they show her digging for the truth, arguing over the truth, and growing in the field, maybe it will be easier to push aside what happened in Sneeze.

[CountBoobu]

Doesn't bother me all that much of the hows and whys that Lois got into journalism. So as long as she's on the path.

Perhaps if we get a series finale that skips ahead a couple of years, Lois can look back on her time at the Inquisitor and think:

"Oh, God, what was I thinking?" Hehehee...

[savingpeoplething]

Originally posted by Chloe82
The only difference between before tonight and tonight? Now the characters (Clark and Chloe) are laughing at her, along with the audience. I'd say we've come full circle.

:)

[lastdaughterofkrypton]

Originally posted by Chloe82
Absolutely ridiculous.

No self-respecting Lois Lane would ever be caught reporting for something like The Inquisitor. But since she's never acted like a real Lois Lane in the first place, I guess that's not terribly surprising.

The only difference between before tonight and tonight? Now the characters (Clark and Chloe) are laughing at her, along with the audience. I'd say we've come full circle.

I think it was a way to make more easier for us to get this LS and not hit our heads against the wall...too hard.
Is like hey don't take her seriously nobody does :p
I think last night was the real Dark Thursday...what a waste :mad:
But I think this is a good thing for Chlois in the long run the best reporter will be at the top of DP at the end. :D

[boywithbluehanger]

I just went back to watch the season 1 X-Ray episode. And Lex said something about controlling the stories written in the Inquisitor after media guy thretened to release the mysterious story of what Lex did in Club Zero (which will probably finally be told this season)

I'm thinking this will have ties to Lois later this season

[InLove_with_Chloe]

...finally an episode where the Lois character got some development towards her future self.

Thank you.

What a wait...

[chlarkfan333]

I have mixed feelings about the way Lois was introduced to journalism in this episode. On the one hand, it wouldn't have been a big surprise if something major had motivated her into writing but perhaps TPTB didn't want to go with the predictable and so they took a more humourous approach. Having done that, I think what we will see is EDLois start to REALLY get into journalism...sort of see her slowly shape into the ILL.

Oh, but I'm with others here in that I could have done without her claim that she had found her true calling (yet) and the bit about her not being able to spell.

[biaaly]

Yeah and it was a total lightswitch, but hey they got her into it, now they just have to make it plausible from here on out. I thought it was cute at the end when she took the paper to Clark and Chloe, she seemed so excited for herself.

[Nerial]

I thought they pushed that a little fast. I didn't mind so much her wanting to write an article, but why did she have to declare that she's found her calling? That was unneccesary.

However, I do think it's funny that she is writing for a crappy paper, and that her story wouldn't have been there if it weren't for one of Clark's life-outtakes. Also, the headline talked about an alien invastion--that was a great inside joke.

Ah, well. At least she's taken a step in the right direction.

[s_q]

i fail to believe that why people arent ready to accept lois and her destiny? Heck Clark has taken over some of his powers in a lightswitch mode too. For instance the season 4 JUMPS. Everyone gets a calling anytime in their life, I know i have had my shares of lightswitch moments, so why so hard to accept lois, a fictional COMIC character, to have her calling like this? And about thigns like she coudlve exposed the man with the metal sword thigny so why does the door thing strike the chord? journalism=proof, and lois actually took the pictures of that door, she had concrete proof to print an article. No one will take notice of her article about a man with sword arms without any proof.

Besides, if someone has followed the Lois & Clark series, this is the real lois in the making. Same personality, same annoyance at times, same "all about me" nature. And besides, Lois has alwyas been on this show the nosey kinda girl, she wants to dig deep and find things on her own. Heck the first ever appearance of Lois n this show was to find chloe and she does heck of a job.

[jaybyrd28]

Almost made me throw my TV out the window. The possiblity of Chlois was one of the few things keeping me watching this show. The statements ED made + the spelling thing, however, pretty much sealed the proverbial deal in my mind.

Worst lightswitch ever. Sorry!!!

[Supergirl Jam]

Originally posted by s_q
i fail to believe that why people arent ready to accept lois and her destiny? Heck Clark has taken over some of his powers in a lightswitch mode too. For instance the season 4 JUMPS. Everyone gets a calling anytime in their life, I know i have had my shares of lightswitch moments, so why so hard to accept lois, a fictional COMIC character, to have her calling like this? And about thigns like she coudlve exposed the man with the metal sword thigny so why does the door thing strike the chord? journalism=proof, and lois actually took the pictures of that door, she had concrete proof to print an article. No one will take notice of her article about a man with sword arms without any proof.

Besides, if someone has followed the Lois & Clark series, this is the real lois in the making. Same personality, same annoyance at times, same "all about me" nature. And besides, Lois has alwyas been on this show the nosey kinda girl, she wants to dig deep and find things on her own. Heck the first ever appearance of Lois n this show was to find chloe and she does heck of a job.

Thank You! Well said! Yeah i didn't like it very much either how the barn door got her into journalism but in a way i did like it. Lois saw a barn door fall from the sky almost hitting her and no one seems to think that is strange. Not even Chloe (of course since she knows about Clark). And Lois seeing how no one is taking it seriously than it should be, did something about it by writing about what happend. And there she figured out how much she liked writting things she believed in and wanted the whole world to know about it which basically is Journalism! I think the most important thing here is how no one took Lois seriously on what she thought, so she did something about it and that's how she found her calling. What i didn't like was the face Chloe gaved her when she said finding her true calling. She should've been happy for her but instead it was lilke "Yeah whatever Lois" Oh i can't wait to see Chloe's face when she finds out Lois ends up being the big shot reporter in the Daily Planet. Of course i don't think we will ever see that happing in Smallville. But yeah i didn't like how Chloe was with Lois in this episode.

[SnarkMasterJ]

Originally posted by Chloe82
Absolutely ridiculous.

No self-respecting Lois Lane would ever be caught reporting for something like The Inquisitor. But since she's never acted like a real Lois Lane in the first place, I guess that's not terribly surprising.

The only difference between before tonight and tonight? Now the characters (Clark and Chloe) are laughing at her, along with the audience. I'd say we've come full circle.

:lol: So I wasn't the only one who noticed the scoffing.

God, even Chloe rolled her eyes when Lois showed up at the barn. Between the two of them (Chloe and Nois), I'd lean more on the side of Chloe as far as knowing how to read people is concerned. But that's just me.

[lilkoolmaria]

I think poor Lois was feeling left out cuz of the Clark and Chloe journalism thing.

[biaaly]

What Clark and Chloe journalism thing? Clark hasn't done anything to prove he's into journalism except when Chloe is involved with some story. And usually Lois is involved as well.

[s_q]

Exactly, Lois is more involved in finding stuff out without the powers she has than Clark. Chloe is a character made strictly for smallville(ofcourse she got her own name in the comic after this show) but chloe could be made into anything, heck even better than lois and clark combined. but when it comes to lois and clark, lois alwyas has the smarts and wits which match up or exceed a lil better than clarks. She does get into dailyplanet before clark does. she does write before clark does. and she has started it already.

[khufu]

Originally posted by s_q
And about thigns like she coudlve exposed the man with the metal sword thigny so why does the door thing strike the chord? journalism=proof, and lois actually took the pictures of that door, she had concrete proof to print an article. No one will take notice of her article about a man with sword arms without any proof. No man, read what I said again. I wasn't saying she could have actually exposed the guy (especially since he exploded): I'm saying that the incredibly bizzare nature of it (and all the other wierd things she's seen) failed to even catch her interest. Whether or not she would be successful in finding the truth is, to me, irrelevent really. All I care about is that she be curious enough about what she's seen to even try. And by the way, how is a picture of the barn door proof of anything? There are a million and 1 ways to fake that.

And what makes this barn door story even more ridiculous... this isn't even the first door she's seen mysteriously removed at the Kent farm!!! Am I the only one who saw Blank??? She comes home and the front door has been ripped off it's hinges and is laying 75 feet away!

Lois: "What the hell happened to the door?"
Clark: "You know, I tried to open it...."
Chloe: "Yeah and then some freak wind came in and just blew it right off!"
Lois: "Right."

Where was her journalistic curiosity then? She even sounded like she didn't really believe them, and yet she just completely ignored the issue. That's just one among dozens of examples of why her turnaround in Sneeze was a ridiculous lightswitch.


Besides, if someone has followed the Lois & Clark series, this is the real lois in the making. Same personality, same annoyance at times, same "all about me" nature. And besides, Lois has alwyas been on this show the nosey kinda girl, she wants to dig deep and find things on her own. Heck the first ever appearance of Lois n this show was to find chloe and she does heck of a job. That was all Clark. Clark was the one who even realized she was still alive. Clark was the one would realized that "Nellie Bly" was a codename for Chloe.

[biaaly]

Well no one said Lois was perfect. Clark can do certain things that Lois can't do. There were certain times that Lois was ahead of the game as well, I like when they work together. Hmmm, partners!

[jaybyrd28]

Originally posted by khufu
No man, read what I said again. I wasn't saying she could have actually exposed the guy (especially since he exploded): I'm saying that the incredibly bizzare nature of it (and all the other wierd things she's seen) failed to even catch her interest. Whether or not she would be successful in finding the truth is, to me, irrelevent really. All I care about is that she be curious enough about what she's seen to even try. And by the way, how is a picture of the barn door proof of anything? There are a million and 1 ways to fake that.

And what makes this barn door story even more ridiculous... this isn't even the first door she's seen mysteriously removed at the Kent farm!!! Am I the only one who saw Blank??? She comes home and the front door has been ripped off it's hinges and is laying 75 feet away!

[b]Lois: "What the hell happened to the door?"
Clark: "You know, I tried to open it...."
Chloe: "Yeah and then some freak wind came in and just blew it right off!"
Lois: "Right."

Where was her journalistic curiosity then? She even sounded like she didn't really believe them, and yet she just completely ignored the issue. That's just one among dozens of examples of why her turnaround in Sneeze was a ridiculous lightswitch.

That was all Clark. Clark was the one who even realized she was still alive. Clark was the one would realized that "Nellie Bly" was a codename for Chloe.

Yup I agree completely.

In S4 when she wrote the article about plastic surgery she treated it as more of a sentence that she had to do for a grade instead of a calling.

[s_q]

the door story and a million ways to prove it bit is absolutely right from your side, and thats why chloe tells lois that forget about daily planet. that is why the inquisitor(spelling) publishes her article, coz thats the kind of newspaper it is. she will groom and start writing more polished stuff and eventually land a job in daily planet. about clark finding out if chloe was alive, yeah i did mention that clark has superpowers and lois doesnt, she still managed to dig deep into her death, whether she was alive or not that was another story. Lois did her own research and was there before Clark in Generals office to find some clues. Heck shes the one who saves Clark from that guy who explodes. She has her own ways to find the truth and she proves it by getting to that place where chloe was held captive. Her powers lie within her, her instincts her curiousity is way over any of the other reporters, ofcourse chloe being an exception and somewhat perry white ofcourse. So in journalism she has found something she feels comfortable with because call it a personality flaw or trait, she likes to dig deep into mysteries. And as far as Clark findin out nellie bly was a codename for choe, big deal, clark is smart, i mean he is superhuman, and have to give him credit for being future best reporter ALONGSIDE lois in dailyplanet. they both need each other and in that epidosde your discussing, lois proves it by helping clark out right in the end.

[boywithbluehanger]

Well I think its sort of funny that tptb chose to do a lightswitch with Lois's character. I think its fine for the most part. I just wish she would have said something like "I'm tired and bored being around here and the Talon, Clark. I'm moving on to something new, and I have your magical flying barn door to thank!" I wouldve bought into that.

It clearly shows that AlMiles didnt have sufficient time to fit Lois's journalism angle in S4 and S5. - Solidifying many fan claims that Lois was only brought to the show in S4 in an attempt to raise ratings. All has worked out though, so no hard feelings AlMiles
:D

[biaaly]

Well it wasn't about sufficient time, they COULDN'T let Lois write, work at the DP, etc. There were restrictions on her character.

[boywithbluehanger]

Oh yeah I completely forgot about the limitations they had! All the more reason that adding Lois to the show was only for ratings.

ehh no biggie, shows do it all the time I guess.

[chlarklove]

Originally posted by biaaly
Well it wasn't about sufficient time, they COULDN'T let Lois write, work at the DP, etc. There were restrictions on her character.

Show me proof that there was a restriction on her writing. Cause uh, she WROTE FOR THE TORCH in early season 4. I think that counts as some journalistic experience, no?

The only thing we know of is SDK saying he "thinks" there's a restriction about her not being able to work at The DP but "he's not really sure." Now, that's kinda weird for someone who's the HEAD WRITER and CO-PRODUCER. Don't you think?

And if we're talking restrictions, why not have her show some drive and ambition and earn jobs on her own or when she got into Met U... STAY THERE and work hard?

This is such a pathetic excuse for an iconic character. That's why I don't buy it.

[Timester]

I would wrote better lightswitch than a flying barn door, but Smallville had way worst lightswitches. Now, AlMiles, can we move on?

And, oh, about the lightswitch, I told you so, like one and half ago. :p

[ginnyfan]

Originally posted by Deana
This Iconic Lois Lane fan realizes you have to crawl before you can walk. I would've hated it more if that article was suddenly on the front page of the Daily Planet where it didn't deserve to be.


I agree! Even when I first read the spoilers for this episode I was glad Lois was starting off at the Inquisitor for this reason.

Why didn't Lois start out loving Journalism and working at the daily planet?

I think that we already have Chloe. She 's writing at the daily planet, she has had the ambition to be a writer from the beginning. So with Lois, it would be repetitious to do that again, and also, Lois has had a more tumultuous adolescence than Chloe.

I'm not saying Chloe's life has been a walk in the park... but she's had lots of stable relationships while in Smallville that helped nurture her... including a really cool dad.

As for Lois... I think it would make sense that because of her various family dysfunctions and instability while growing up that Lois would not have it all figured out. Her first two seasons she's still suffering from her own dysfunctional tendencies and figuring out what she wants. I think this works from a writing standpoint because it sort of gives us a window into her past. By showing us self-sabotage now we can then assume oh this is the pattern Lois has been on for a while.

With the other characters on Smallville we've been growing up with them... we don't really need windows into thier pasts... They also did this with Lex. He was introduced as not much of a serious business man... and they often alluded to his wild days in Metropolis... Anyways...

Now... I don't think that this means Chloe must turn into Lois LOL! I just think that Chloe has a background that is very similar to Lois' endpoint from a distance. In bare facts Chloe loves Journalism and works at the Daily Planet and Lois loves journalism and works at the Daily Planet... later in life. I'm sure there are lots of other people who love journalism and work at the daily planet. LOL! Chloe and Lois are still two very different people. IMHO... But this isn't the Chlois thread. :) Anyway, I greatly dislike the idea that certain facts = Chloe and certain facts = Lois. People aren't a culmination of facts all strung together....

The way that Lois has been bitten by the Journalism bug was not what I thought it would be. I thought she would see some huge injustice and be driven to uncover it and thus driven to Journalism as the best method with which to do so. However now that I've seen the way she's been introduced to Journalism in Sneeze I think that my way was flawed. And I really like what they've done in Sneeze (I'm probably in the minority LOL!)

1. Lois is going into Journalism on her own steam. She decides to write about her experience. Why? Because she was profoundly effected by it. From the outside it is hilarious (which I also like) but for Lois she was almost hit by a barn door... miles away from any farm... and no one else was chomping at the bit to find out why.

2. Lois goes into gear when no one else will. I think several things brought this silliness to the breaking point. One thing was Chloe's reaction. Any other time Chloe would be on board and I think Lois would have let it go. But Chloe trying to dissuade her really made her even more tenacious about it. Luckily though... Chloe successfully directed Lois toward weather phenomenon rather than leaving her to dig for an explanation closer to home.

3. Comic Relief. So often we take ourselves SOOOO seriously on these boards. I'm glad to see the writers having fun with a momentous moment in Lois' journey. It reminds me of the events that got Perry back on track. Why go heavy when you can go light? Just because Lois starts in on Journalism on a light, crazy silly note... doesn't mean her love for Journalism isn't real and that she won't be able to get serious if need be.

IMO they accomplished the most important part of Lois and journalism. Lois falls in love! She was giddy and happy like a little girl. I don't remember ever seeing Lois this happy on Smallville. Journalism makes her sunshine-glowing happy. It may not gel on a super intellectual level... But it's better. IMO.

And the end... When the sun comes out. I thought that (along with being a symbol of Chlark possibility) was symbolic of the sunshine coming into Lois' life. Journalism. :) I loved it. It threw me for a loop. I didn't expect it. I knew Chloisers would have a field day... But I LOVED it!!!

About the door in Blank... Chloe was on top of the situation and Lois only saw the aftermath. A door laying on the ground on the Kent property... and a gaping hole in the door frame... there are viable explanations that Lois could reach... even if she didn't buy Chloe's... But a barn door blowing miles away from the Kent farm to almost kill Lois... a little different. :D


Originally posted by Superman_Beyond
I see it this way. Lois sees this barn door come out of nowhere fall and almost kill her. She tells CLark and Martha about it and they dismiss it as nothing. Then goes to her cousin who is always talking about paranormal things and even she dismisses it also. So this event keeps going through her head and she wants someone to listen her and take her serious so she writes an article about it. In that process she really gets into it and realizes that she does like it. Even though i do like it i don't like that it was rushed. I think its because of the last minute script changes cuz i believe Craig said that she wasnt even in sneeze at first.

This is the perfect explanation IMO. Lois was encouraged by all the discouraging from the people around her.

[Phantazma]

Lois is to journalism what a fish is to water. It's about bloody time! My only complaint was that it happened too fast. It would've been nice to see the process of Lois struggling to get the article printed. That way the audience could root for her to succeed, instead of her suddenly getting the article printed at the Inquisitor.

I loved the foreshadowing of Lois writing about aliens since she will spend a considerable portion of her career writing about the world's most famous alien ... ET! Just kidding! :D No, of course I mean Superman!

[ginnyfan]

I'll grudgingly admit that it was a lightswitch... with the footnote that Lois has shown skills for investigating long before this...

But for her love of Journalism...

Lightswitch.

But I liked it. :)

[s_q]

but it goes to show that inquistor(watever the F the sp.) will hire anyone as long as it an out of the box story. And alien invasion/Barn door thingy just sells. Point is, she'll start realizing that its DP she needs to aim for and she is way too good for thepaper she is currently writing for. This move is certainly a lightswitch but def. wayyyy far behind her destiny: DP. This season will show us Lois excel in her journalisitc skills, they cant do show that without putting Lois in any sort of writing environment, and inqusitor is the best way to start her off.

[chlarklove]

Originally posted by s_q
Point is, she'll start realizing that its DP she needs to aim for and she is way too good for thepaper she is currently writing for. This move is certainly a lightswitch but def. wayyyy far behind her destiny: DP.

Hmm. But in this episode it showed her calling The Daily Planet a "stuffy pseudo-intellectual rag." That sounded to me like she thought she was TOO GOOD for The DP so she decided to take her story some place that would print it.

How would she go from having that opinion, to suddenly realizing that she's too good for The Inquisitor (the only place that DID take her story) to The DP is her destiny, a paper she previously insulted?

[s_q]

she jsut said to put dp down because no one was takign her seriously, ofcourse chloe wasnt. so she said that to take her stuff anywhere else and prove chloe wrong by getting her aticle published regardless of all the chaos the world is facing. besides lois's character is like that, she likes to put anything/everything down, regardless of waht she truly feels. example: her encounter with aquaman? then again i can name so many other examples from her other show "lois & clark" but because we are only sticking to smallville...y'all know the obvious lois's examples.

[lastdaughterofkrypton]

Originally posted by chlarklove
Hmm. But in this episode it showed her calling The Daily Planet a "stuffy pseudo-intellectual rag." That sounded to me like she thought she was TOO GOOD for The DP so she decided to take her story some place that would print it.

How would she go from having that opinion, to suddenly realizing that she's too good for The Inquisitor (the only place that DID take her story) to The DP is her destiny, a paper she previously insulted?

You don't get it don't you?
EDlois is Lana 2.0 when they need her in the planet she is just going to go there and her story is going to get published for whatever reason, it doesn't matter anymore how she goes there she is EDlois and she is a plot device Lana found her place at Lex side so she don't need to be cheerleader,horseback rider,painter,business woman and astronomist so EDlois is filling that place now she loves journalism and diss the planet but by a few episodes it will be her dream job place... You can be sure of that.

[nzs]

How sad that the trait most associated with iconic Lois Lane is her bad spelling (Spell Check anyone).

How sad that iconic Lois Lane would be so naive as to think The Daily Planet would care about a freak weather incident (after the events of "Black Thursday").

How sad that iconic Lois Lane would write an article having done no real investigation (blindly writing Chloe's explanation; "Digging to China" indeed).

How sad that iconic Lois Lane would make fun of The Daily Planet - *the* place to be if you're an investigative reporter.

How sad that iconic Lois Lane would tell her cousin that she's just jealous of her for writing an article.

How sad that iconic Lois Lane would allow a rag paper to change her story just to get it published.

How sad that Smallville writers want us to swallow hook, line and sinker that this is iconic Lois Lane.

*This* is the woman Superman will eventually marry? How sad.

[laurelnola]

This amount of lightswitching had better be a joke. Lois is so far from the path of iconic Lois that even a GPS couldn't save her at this point.
I still hope the show will utilize Chloe, the person who HAS been the intrepid reporter and love interest for Clark on the show for five years already. Dye her hair and change her name, whatever, but underneath, Chloe is the one who embodies iconic Lois for me.

[biaaly]

Originally posted by laurelnola
This amount of lightswitching had better be a joke. Lois is so far from the path of iconic Lois that even a GPS couldn't save her at this point.
I still hope the show will utilize Chloe, the person who HAS been the intrepid reporter and love interest for Clark on the show for five years already. Dye her hair and change her name, whatever, but underneath, Chloe is the one who embodies iconic Lois for me.

Yeah but this is a thread for Lois and Journalism, not Chloe turning into Lois, so take it to the Chlois thread :)

[Ares]

Yeah.. Not sure exactly what this thread is about .. didnt want to read.. So um.. Episode was lame.

Oh right.. .. Yeah.. Yay lois

[Lostfan588]

It is a joke...hahaha...there was no way tptb could have written this "lightswitch" and expected the majority of the loyal SV audience to swallow it...i almost feel bad for "Lois" :as the the sudden reason for her beginning this writing career this article made her character seem totally lame and unbelievable, she cant even spell the title of the article right before taking it to b published?? "wheather"...lol???? i mean even the easiest words!!, she stole all her "info" from what chloe had told her without actually doing any actual investigating of her own, she didnt show any real drive or determination to get her article published after she visited chloe at the DP and she allowed the editor of the inquisitor to basically change her whole story for her, she doesnt care for the actual truth as shes working for a tabloid paper, after alll the things that have been happening in Smallville and the chaos in Metropolis she couldnt find anything better to write write about??? come on!!! even clark and chloe were laughing at her at not taking her seriously why should we?? so....its j so sad for poor Lois but yeah i think none of this should b taken to seriously.

[sassy_reporter]

I dont' think it's supposed to be taken seriously. I love Lois on this show in some ways BECAUSE she's got the spunk and the determination, but she makes a lot of mistakes and is bumbling in a lot of ways. We all know that's not where she ends. I'm glad she doesn't lightswitch suddenly into this serious and professional journalist. She's naive here (expect the Planet to be interested in her schmaltzy article)--as she should be. She knows nothing about journalism--for her right now, it's a bit of a game! That doesn't mean that one day it won't change for her into something a lot more serious. And BTW, Lois is notorious for not being able to spell! :-)

People do change. Um...look at Lana on the show. It's hard to imagine the sweet naive girl who talks to her dead parent's grave stone to the often mean, sex-kitten, thing they got going for her. I really do love where Lois ends up in the Superman mythos, but I really don't mind that they're taking this journey with her. It's more interesting t have character arc than Lois arriving in smallville already armed and ready to do some intrepid reporting! This lois lends a taint of screwball comedy to the show that the show really benefits from, in my opinion.

[Katarite]

Yay, now that I have finally seen the episode, I can add my two cents to this debate. I, like many here, am a bit upset with how the writers handled Lois' entrance into journalism, but it wasn't nearly as bad as I had imagined it. First of all, I agree with everyone who believes that Lois' motivation was the fact that no one would listen to her. She knows what she saw, and that there is never a simple explanation in Smallville. There was nothing out of the ordinary in Clark and Martha dismissing her speculations on the paranormal, but I think she was a little lost when Chloe, queen of the paranormal, gave her a less than plausible explanation involving extreme weather on a sunny day. Whenever something like this has happened before, Chloe has been right there to help her figure it out, or at the very least listen to her. So, Lois decides that there is only one way left to get people to listen, she writes an article. I actually doubt the idea would have seemed viable if Chloe wasn't already successful in the field.

It was a bit pretentious for Lois to believe she could be printed in the DP, but that is just Lois, especially EDLois. One can only assume that she picked this behavior up from her father who can walk into almost any room, bark a few commands, and get whatever he wants. EDLois is actually a lot like how I imagine THLois would be like as a teenager.

Now, there is a lot of speculation about the article Lois wrote and how much work she put into it. I am going to go with the assumption that is was actually pretty good despite the ridiculous spelling errors, and I have reasons. The first reason is that the Inquisitor has its own reporters. There was an entire arc about on of them in the first season. These reporters have to be decent writers that don’t need a ton of editing because the paper sells, and it is not cost effective to have the editor re-writing articles on a regular basis. Lois’ article, with an addition to make it more acceptable to the paper’s target audience, was good enough to land a byline above the regular reporters, and a job with the paper. It wasn’t good enough for the Planet or the Ledger because it wasn’t a mainstream story. It was an expose on the paranormal. I am not saying that she would have landed a front page byline at the Planet if her article were about something else, but there is no reason why she might not have made page 75, or something like that, if she fixed her spelling. I also don’t think that she just went with Chloe’s idea throughout the article. It may have started that way, but it wouldn’t be an “exposé on the paranormal” if it were just about a microburst in Smallville. Also, since we only get to see the first paragraph of her article on screen (I paused my copy of the episode so I could read it ^_^;; ) there is no telling what research she did or who she contacted. Lois, as daughter of a three star general and Chief of Staff to a U.S. senator, is not a woman without contacts. She probably knows someone in the science field, or at least knows someone who knows someone and owes her a favor :-P.

Finally, I agree with a lot of people here that Chloe was acting a bit cold towards Lois, and that the loft scene was definately a lightswitch moment. On the first point, I thought Lana was also acting strange this episode, so I am not going to think much about it, and on the latter, I expected a lightswitch but part of me was hoping that it would involve Lois' near death experience showing her that she needed to make changes in her life. Her sudden love of journalism would only have made sense if she hadn't written before :-/. It would have even sounded better if she said she loved having her name in print on a paper that was read by the masses, not just the students of Smallville High. But, oh well.

I guess all that really matters now is that Lois is in fact in journalism, and that she is on the path to becoming ILL. I have seen arguments that there is no way ED Lois can become her Iconic self, but as I mentioned before, I see her acting a lot like I would have imagined THLois to act as a teenager. Lois is already beginning to work through her personal issues, and I think she is definately in a position to slowly become the hero behind the superhero.

[Farm_Girl]

It is unfortunate that all the time SV's Lois is being compared to the ILL without realizing that she has not reached the destination yet.. she is on a journey.. just like Clark.. is he the costume donned iconic Superman flying around? No.. and niether is Lois..

She is shown as a 19-20 year old girl with a crippled relationship with her dad and her sister.. and her dad happens to be a three star general.. how would she be.. exactly the way she is shown..

Her take on journalism is linked to her upbringing.. she doesn't give up.. no one believed her over the barn door thing.. it only made her more determined.. for she is raised like that.. a soldier..

I think that the upcoming episodes will shape up her future into journalism and we may see how it slowly grows on her more and more..

[khufu]

Originally posted by Katarite
It was a bit pretentious for Lois to believe she could be printed in the DP, but that is just Lois, especially EDLois. One can only assume that she picked this behavior up from her father who can walk into almost any room, bark a few commands, and get whatever he wants. EDLois is actually a lot like how I imagine THLois would be like as a teenager.That's not pretentious, that's naive and just plain stupid. She's seen Chloe working her ass off to be where she is, and she's witnessed first hand just how long it takes. When Chloe got her first byline, that was a big deal and represented a very long journey and Lois knew that. And yet, she thought she could just walk in off the steets with no resume, not even a high school degree, and hand in a paper that she didn't even spell check or proofread and expect that it would get published? Naive and stupid is the only way to describe it.

[RedBullet]

She thought it was weird everyone thought nothing of it but herself so she wrote about it. She also is a bit jealous that Chloe is at the Planet so Lois insults it. She just needs something to do (Oliver Queen)....

[chlarkfan333]

The more I have been thinking about Lois' intro to journalism, the more I am baffled about just why TPTB would take such a flippant attitude toward it. They can't be so stupid as to not recognise that viewers would immediately pick up on the lightswitch as it is called. The fact that Clark and Chloe reacted the way they did attests to this. So, what were TPTB thinking? Why would they want to make such a mockery of such an important milestone? I keep coming back to the same answer: they wanted to just get it done and do so in an untraditional way. Now they figure, having gotten past that hurdle, they can start developing her character. It's certainly a backwards way to go about it, especially if one were to contrast it with their character development of Chloe. It's a more than a little disconcerting though, that they would have her say she's found her calling. That was over the top and not funny at all. Perhaps they want to make it clear that there's nothing to the Chlois theory? I don't know, that's just my opinion based not nothing but speculation. Don't intend to turn this into a Chlois thread by the way. :)

[ginnyfan]

I don't think TPTB are comparing and contrasting Lois and Chloe and by doing this in such a light and funny and silly way they completely stay out of the debate. I don't think they were ever in it. They were never going to please everyone so why not have a little fun. It reminds me of Perry. As far as tptb are concerned there is no Chloe/Lois contest. That's a fan creation IMO.

It threw me for a loop. For so long I've been anticipating and imagining how Lois would get into journalism. A barn door epiphany??? But my reaction was very like Chloe's when Clark pretended to sneeze. Thrown at first... maybe a little annoyed. But then I just had to laugh and... it's the perfect diffusion of tension. For me anyway. I mean you can't really scrutinize a barn door epiphany. LOL!

[biaaly]

It was kinda funny. But you know I'm just glad. I mean she had to start somewhere and she seemed really happy at the end and damn proud of herself, and hopefully now that the writers have crossed the Lois Journalism line, they will make it more believable. They HAVE TO! LOL

[Poweranimals]

I don't think it was lightswitchy at all. Lois has had the making to be a reporter from the start. Before everyone was encouraging her to go into journalism. I think it was mostly the fact that everyone was dismissing her views when she knew there was something more to it that pushed her to take matters into her own hands. Basically, she just wanted someone to listen to her.

If Clark and Chloe would've been supportive of looking deeper into it, she would've just dismissed it by the end.

[Mischael12]

The fact that she can't spell weather...well it kinda made me want to cry.

[Timester]

Originally posted by Mischael12
The fact that she can't spell weather...well it kinda made me want to cry.

Lois not knowing how to spell is something they took from the movies.

[lastdaughterofkrypton]

Originally posted by Mischael12
The fact that she can't spell weather...well it kinda made me want to cry.

Only that?! ...You must be a rock then ;) :D

[Christine C]

Well we all knew it was coming, Lois big L.S. , at least those of us who have been involved in the whole Lois/ Chlois debate. Now I never have hated Smallville Lois, just never have liked the way the TPTB have handled her as far as being like the real Lois Lane we all know and love which is clearly the part Chloe Sullivan is portraying. My question is, what happened to being Martha's Chief of staff, or representative, whatever her job was. She' suddenly going to stop doing that, give it up? I thought that's why she practically lives at the Kent's. There's no doubt she has always been great comic relief, and if she was'nt destined to be The Daily Plant's star reporter over C.S. I would have no problem with her, I just can't buy it thats all.

[Phantazma]

Originally posted by nzs
How sad that the trait most associated with iconic Lois Lane is her bad spelling (Spell Check anyone).

How sad that iconic Lois Lane would be so naive as to think The Daily Planet would care about a freak weather incident (after the events of "Black Thursday").

How sad that iconic Lois Lane would write an article having done no real investigation (blindly writing Chloe's explanation; "Digging to China" indeed).

How sad that iconic Lois Lane would make fun of The Daily Planet - *the* place to be if you're an investigative reporter.

How sad that iconic Lois Lane would tell her cousin that she's just jealous of her for writing an article.

How sad that iconic Lois Lane would allow a rag paper to change her story just to get it published.

How sad that Smallville writers want us to swallow hook, line and sinker that this is iconic Lois Lane.

*This* is the woman Superman will eventually marry? How sad.

Nzs, you brought up so many excellent points that I didn't want to whittle down your quote. :)

I pondered upon the points nzs made and it made me think of Smallville's Lois Lane in a new light. Perhaps, TPTB are aiming for an ironic Lois Lane as kind of an in-joke to longtime followers of the Superman mythos. :lol:

[LolaDane]

Originally posted by Jess4302
Plus everything on this show seems to start at the polar opposite of what it will be in the future:

Clark hates to fly

Clark and Lex were the best of friends

Lex was basically a "good guy" at first

Clark thinks his powers are a curse

Clark also doesn't have much of an interest in journalism

Clark and Lois are not found of each other at first

And there are probably more examples. I guess they just love the irony.

Very true. Perry White being another example, of course. *sigh* Irony is cute once in a while, but SV totally goes overboard with the Big 3 of the Superman mythos. Sadly, it seems like Clark, Lex, and Lois are subjected to irony overkill on this show.

[Chloe82]

The difference between a real Lois and an EDLois is that the real Lois has been a reporter all her life. She has lived and breathed it since she was very young. It never crossed EDLois' mind until two seconds ago. And don't get me started on how twisted around they do everything on SV, that's not the point. At their basest level, Clark and Lex are who they are. She isn't and never has been.

So that renders this entire scenario absolutely and utterly the most ridiculous thing the yahoos on the SV writing staff have ever written.

[nzs]

Thank you, Phantazma. I had to let out my frustration.

About the irony of Smallville. We need to remember that from day 1 Clark was saving people. He wanted to be normal/human but he never hesitated to help or save anyone. In "Leech" he showed that even without his powers he'd put his life on the line.

Lex has been shown to be ambiguous at best since day 1. He's been shown to manipulate people since he was 18 ("Zero"). Perform experiments with Kryptonite. Investigate Clark although Clark is supposedly his friend. Make deals with criminals.

EDLois has stated that she hates journalism ("Kill me now") and has shown by her actions that she is not interested in journalism. Her words and her actions align.

[LolaDane]

Originally posted by Chloe82
The difference between a real Lois and an EDLois is that the real Lois has been a reporter all her life. She has lived and breathed it since she was very young. It never crossed EDLois' mind until two seconds ago. And don't get me started on how twisted around they do everything on SV, that's not the point. At their basest level, Clark and Lex are who they are. She isn't and never has been.

So that renders this entire scenario absolutely and utterly the most ridiculous thing the yahoos on the SV writing staff have ever written.

Bwahahaha! This is THE most ridiculous thing ever written on SV?? Oh puhleeze. Talk about overkill. Vampires and witches come to mind when I think about the most ridiculous storylines. :lol:

[Farm_Girl]

Originally posted by biaaly
Yeah but this is a thread for Lois and Journalism, not Chloe turning into Lois

The ultimate goal for threads like this is always "Chlois" because supporters of this theory are the ones who usually start it.

Sorry to say, but right from the beginning, when the spoilers of S6 stating that Lois will enter journalism came out, Lois's fans were sure that no matter how they weave it into the story, Chloe fans will never take it positively.

Now we have arguments like Chloe is in DP and Lois is writing for a tabloid.. Chloe has a experience behind her which Lois lacks.. and she has been dropped out of college, so only a paper like Inquisitor will give her a start.. and that is all she needed..

And mind you, Chloe having more experience has nothing to do with making her "iconic".. Clark has zero experience in journalism too.. that doesn't mean he is not the real Clark.

Spelling errors are a mark of iconic Lois.. watch Lois and Clark and you'll know.. If you take out the shipper blinders for just a moment and watch SV's Lois closely.. she has all the traits of the iconic LL in the making.. and offcourse she will reach there..

I love Chloe/AM and will always will, most ED and Lois fans do.. I don't see why AM/Chloe fans cannot do the same..

Why do you endlessly compare Chloe with Lois when clearly both come from entirely different backgrounds, they are two entirely different people, and have entirely different take on the only one thing they have in common.. journalism..

Lois is the ultimate woman in Clark's life and it is not a shipper's theory.. it is a fact established since 1938.. In Smallville, Chloe also has a strong impact on Clark's life, no denying that.. but that does not by any means turn her "iconic" or make her equivalent to Lois..

[Chloe82]

Originally posted by Farm_Girl

Lois is the ultimate woman in Clark's life and it is not a shipper's theory.. it is a fact established since 1938.. In Smallville, Chloe also has a strong impact on Clark's life, no denying that.. but that does not by any means turn her "iconic" or make her equivalent to Lois..

The thought of Clark having to put up with this Lois forever makes me sad. It'll probably make him sad, too.

But then, you're also forgetting Lois never annoyed the crap out of Clark Kent, he was always in love with her. That's not what is going on here. It'll be like marrying his annoying older sister, poor thing.

She's so awful she almost makes Lana look palatable, and I've hated Lana since day one.

[angig]

yeah I loved that too

[AlwaysAround]

Originally posted by Chloe82
The thought of Clark having to put up with this Lois forever makes me sad. It'll probably make him sad, too.

But then, you're also forgetting Lois never annoyed the crap out of Clark Kent, he was always in love with her. That's not what is going on here. It'll be like marrying his annoying older sister, poor thing.

She's so awful she almost makes Lana look palatable, and I've hated Lana since day one.

She's only annoying to you (and other Lois haters). Given Clark's concern for her well being and the way they sometimes have those heart to heart chats, it's obvious that Lois is not that annoying to him. He knows that she's only teasing him and he teases her back in a playful mood. Flirting is often disguised as teasing. It's not in a brother sister way though. Why people want to try to continue to live in denial about their attraction is beyond me. There is a clear attraction there. Me and my sister never look at each other like they do.

There are some people in this world that can never be pleased though. If her character was completely changed to act a completely different way, some people would still find something to complain about. You can never win with some people.

I enjoy her interactions with Clark. They make the shows worth watching for me because I got sick of the lame plots, freak of the weeks, and hero of the weeks, a long time ago. I only watch it for Lois, Clark, and Chloe now and that's it.

[Katarite]

The difference between a real Lois and an EDLois is that the real Lois has been a reporter all her life. She has lived and breathed it since she was very young. It never crossed EDLois' mind until two seconds ago. And don't get me started on how twisted around they do everything on SV, that's not the point. At their basest level, Clark and Lex are who they are. She isn't and never has been.

In Lois and Clark, Lois never wanted to be a journalist. Her motivation was to annoy her father. She didn't even like it at first, but after a while, it grew on her. Lois doesn't have to like journalism at first. That said, they did drop EDLois into it too quickly, but Lois didn't have to like the idea of being a jounalist from the beginning.

I also disagree that EDLois is not Lois Lane at the basest level. All her personality traits are there, as well as many of the life skills that the future Lois Lane relies on. She is independent, brave, direct, and persistant. She will go through any lengths to get the information she needs (like going through her father's office on a military base), including going undercover (Facade and Exposed). Lois will get where she needs to be eventually. No one said it had to be an instant process.

[AlwaysAround]

Originally posted by Katarite
In Lois and Clark, Lois never wanted to be a journalist. Her motivation was to annoy her father. She didn't even like it at first, but after a while, it grew on her. Lois doesn't have to like journalism at first. That said, they did drop EDLois into it too quickly, but Lois didn't have to like the idea of being a jounalist from the beginning.

I also disagree that EDLois is not Lois Lane at the basest level. All her personality traits are there, as well as many of the life skills that the future Lois Lane relies on. She is independent, brave, direct, and persistant. She will go through any lengths to get the information she needs (like going through her father's office on a military base), including going undercover (Facade and Exposed). Lois will get where she needs to be eventually. No one said it had to be an instant process.

Exactly. It's nice to finally see someone that gets it. I still think she did have at least a little buld up to it though. She did help Chloe on the Torch. Even though we only got to see her do one article we can assume she did more that one for it. She also went undercover, and truth be known she did deserve most of the credit that Chloe got on that article. She did take all the risk involved, but it was good that Chloe was there for good support.;)

[sstray72]

I don't understand how any Lois fan can be happy with this. Wouldn't you want to see her go from "kill me now" to "I've found my calling" more gradually? I would. In fact, all they had to do was re-do her progression that they had her make in Facade and Devoted and there wouldn't be many complaints. Her love for journalism should've been taken seriously and not as an episode-long joke. Her scenes were hokey at best with a bumbling musical score with the surrounding characters not taking her seriously. How am I supposed to take her seriously when her love for journalism was intentioned to make me laugh??

[MBCorp]

Originally posted by sstray72
I don't understand how any Lois fan can be happy with this. Wouldn't you want to see her go from "kill me now" to "I've found my calling" more gradually? I would. In fact, all they had to do was re-do her progression that they had her make in Facade and Devoted and there wouldn't be many complaints. Her love for journalism should've been taken seriously and not as an episode-long joke. Her scenes were hokey at best with a bumbling musical score with the surrounding characters not taking her seriously. How am I supposed to take her seriously when her love for journalism was intentioned to make me laugh??

I'm not happy with the way it was handled, and I didn't like the fact that it was pretty much made into a big joke, but then again I don't like the way that Lex's character development has been handled either, so my disappointment with Lois' character development is just part of my all around disappointment with much of this show. I've just kind of resigned myself to the fact that the show isn't very well written, and not to expect anything too brilliant in regards to character development. I guess I've just lowered my expectations to the point where the Lois plotline was a bit disappointing but not totally unexpected and not anything to get angry or upset over. I was hoping that she'd get into journalism this season, and now she's got interested in journalism.

[SnarkMasterJ]

I think the point that a lot of people are missing is that no one was asking for a quick fix. I've never heard any poster (Chlois or anti-Chlois) suggest that EDLois should arrive on the doorsteps of greatness in the blink of an eye. She should have a lower level start; she should work her hardest and overcome adversity to get what she wants. I won't speak for anyone else, but I know that I've never debated that.

That being said, how are we seeing this from EDLois? Let's just break down the events of Sneeze:

First off, she hacked a two-bit story out of a freak accident that really had nothing directly to do with her -- she just happened to be the first witness. Then she goes on a seeming tirade about how screwy the whole scenario seems when, as others have mentioned before, she has openly dismissed or even ignored much more convincing happenings on the Smallville circuit in the way of obvious paranormal activity.

Next, she takes her typo-ridden article (and the typos weren't endearing...I'm sure they were meant as a shout-out to MK, but they ended up falling flat on their misspelled faces, IMO) to her cousin, who actually works at the DP, and hopes she'll get an easy in because of connections -- never mind the fact that her story doesn't really address anything socially important. Oh right, and she calls Chloe "jealous" because she didn't fall at Lois's feet and praise her for her keen journalistic instincts, and, to top it all off, she refers to the DP as a paraphrased "stuffy rag", which I'm sure was supposed to be taken as snark but ended up showing me a nasty, backbiting and self-centered side of EDLois that I didn't find attractive.

And lastly, when all is said and done, we get a handy token from the writers showing EDLois' finished product -- an article that she took to a notoriously subpar newspaper and that she, for all intents and purposes, didn't really write, since the added subject matter therein blatantly distorts the minimal truth that might've existed before her editor got her hands on it. Which she is completely fine with, by the way, since all she cared about was getting exposure (I think her words were something like "my editor thought it would sell more papers"). And whether or not this will be admitted, her character is being openly mocked and TPTB aren't trying to hide it or maybe even be subtle. The whole tone of the scene was "Okay Lois, you keep telling yourself that" and I honestly felt kind of bad for it.

Seriously though, all we have as proof for EDLois's journalistic prowess are easy words and shoddy script subtext. Why people want to cite random and often unlinked events in her character's history (Exposed, for example) as support for EDLois's investigative instincts I'll never understand, since the events in Season 5 concerning that are rendered virtually obselete due to the utter lack of follow-through from the writers.

And are we seriously talking about the restrictions thing again? There were no restrictions on showing her character having an interest in journalism, or even writing, for that matter, so I don't even want to hear that. Instead we got "kill me first" and a bunch of unconvincing, out-of-the-blue statements concerning her destiny.

I'm seriously with nzs on being hopelessly frustrated with what we're being spoonfed to believe about the woman who is supposed to be Iconic Lois Lane. Chlois or no Chlois, what the writers dished out to us last Thursday was crap on toast. Even being eternally optimistic as far as this show is concerned (and it takes optimism to put up with a lot of the stuff that goes on), all I left with from those events in Sneeze was "WTF?"

[Kal-ed]

I Love ED Lois, shes my favorite female character and I ship her with Clark, but I have to be objective about this, Her incursion in journalism was poorly handeled and rushed, not completely but somewhat Lightswitch, I liked it better when the spoilers said that she got into journalism cause of something relating safetec wrongdoings, I guess they decided against it, maybe cause an expose on a company´s felonies would be more of a DP story, and its too early for the DP, so they had her writte a story about some alleged supernatural event, and well although it was not serious press material, she was right on the money and her suspicions werent unfounded, I didnt mind that she got refused by the DP by Chloe, I wouldnt expect any less from Chloe, the DP is a serious news paper and Lois´s attempt to put her article there was ridiculous, thankfully she was rejected, which is exactly what should have happened.

And the line at the end of the epi, also didnt like it, What now she found her calling??? We know that IS her calling, but the fact that she found out so fast was not good.

One thing I have to say though in defence of the writters, is that maybe given she has a lot less airtime as most main characters, they need to use the few epis they have with her to develope her and we know a romance is coming between her and OQ so I guess they wanted to get that journalism over with, and move on to the romance, which in SV always seems to be more important than any other thing.


Originally posted by sstray72
I don't understand how any Lois fan can be happy with this. Wouldn't you want to see her go from "kill me now" to "I've found my calling" more gradually? I would. In fact, all they had to do was re-do her progression that they had her make in Facade and Devoted and there wouldn't be many complaints. Her love for journalism should've been taken seriously and not as an episode-long joke. Her scenes were hokey at best with a bumbling musical score with the surrounding characters not taking her seriously. How am I supposed to take her seriously when her love for journalism was intentioned to make me laugh??

I know and Im a fan and im not happy the lack of seriousness it was handeled with.

But Im not completely surprised, tptb wanted to make her journalist a long time ago and couldnt wait to make her one as soon as the restrictions were lifted. Also sadly Lois has been the comic relief in the show, I say sad cause in Superman mythos she is one of the most important and solid characters. I like this Lois cause even though sometimes poorly written she resembles quite a bit the comic Lois. But TPTB should take her more seriously, Instead of stupid unnecesary romantic and journalistic restricctions, DC comics shoudl have put restricctions inturning Lois Lane in to the Class clown.

[LolaDane]

Originally posted by MBCorp
I'm not happy with the way it was handled, and I didn't like the fact that it was pretty much made into a big joke, but then again I don't like the way that Lex's character development has been handled either, so my disappointment with Lois' character development is just part of my all around disappointment with much of this show. I've just kind of resigned myself to the fact that the show isn't very well written, and not to expect anything too brilliant in regards to character development. I guess I've just lowered my expectations to the point where the Lois plotline was a bit disappointing but not totally unexpected and not anything to get angry or upset over. I was hoping that she'd get into journalism this season, and now she's got interested in journalism.

My sentiments exactly. I'm not fond of the way they kicked off the journalism storyline, but I'm just grateful they've finally put Lois on that path. I've stopped expecting great things from this show a long time ago...especially when it comes to utilizing Lois's limited screen time effectively. I don't have the energy to be morally outraged anymore whenever they mishandle characterization. With this show the way it is, I'd never get any sleep. :lol:

I've decided to just go with the flow and try to enjoy the scraps and pieces TPTB feeds me. Beggars can't be choosers and all that jazz. ;) Besides, I enjoy Erica's performances so that's a plus. I'll also enjoy rooting for Lois to succeed and prove the doubters wrong. She's become like the ultimate underdog. Sure the other characters can mock her now, but I have a feeling Lois will be the one laughing last.

[jimmyolsenblues]

They are sqeezing alot of plot in the first two episodes.
The zod story line should have been expanded over several episodes.
I am not surprised they are rushing the lois to super reporter plot line.
I hope this is not a sign of panic in TPTB for the show in struggling ratings to get some quick hits from the movie.

[Kal-ed]

Its budget problems, I guess, thats why they are squeezing so much in two episodes, this season is suposed to have a huge arc and well, i guess not enough episodes

[Katarite]

I think the point that a lot of people are missing is that no one was asking for a quick fix. I've never heard any poster (Chlois or anti-Chlois) suggest that EDLois should arrive on the doorsteps of greatness in the blink of an eye. She should have a lower level start; she should work her hardest and overcome adversity to get what she wants. I won't speak for anyone else, but I know that I've never debated that. ... Seriously though, all we have as proof for EDLois's journalistic prowess are easy words and shoddy script subtext. Why people want to cite random and often unlinked events in her character's history (Exposed, for example) as support for EDLois's investigative instincts I'll never understand, since the events in Season 5 concerning that are rendered virtually obselete due to the utter lack of follow-through from the writers.

I don't think many of us have implied that we like the way things were handled in Sneeze. In fact, most of us are upset. We are just doing our best to rationalize and accept what has been given to us. There is no sense in crying over spilt milk.

That said, there have been many people comparing EDLois to Iconic Lois Lane, and saying that there is no way she will ever reach that point. That is implying that she should already be on the path to greatness, which isn't true. Sometimes a person has to find the path first, and right now EDLois has a flashlight in her hand and is searching through the forest for it.

Despite a lack of follow-through from the writers (which would be difficult considering how little screentime ED actually gets), the events in past episodes do show us that Lois has the skills needed to be a journalist. There is no need to spell it out. In Exposed, she is willing to go undercover to help Chloe get answers. I don't see where follow-through is needed, or why it has to be connected to other events in her past. There is no prowess yet, there are only skills, and it is important that we see she has those skills.

[trusupagyrl]

I didn't like the way it happened. All of a sudden she writes one article and she is a journalist. Sorry, but I don't see it happening that way, but my opinion is biasest because I am a real journalist.

[cotton candy girl]

Yeah Smallville's not too realistic. :\

[khufu]

Originally posted by trusupagyrl
I didn't like the way it happened. All of a sudden she writes one article and she is a journalist. Sorry, but I don't see it happening that way, but my opinion is biasest because I am a real journalist. Lol yeah I would imagine someone in your position would probably be extra ticked off, because it completely undermines all the hard work that you've had to do to get where you are :\ You have my sympathies...

[cotton candy girl]

It's just a show though. I'm sure any real hacker would be offended that Chloe's hacking abilities are off the charts and none too believable.

[ShelbyKent]

I'm glad that Lois is finally into Journalism. Granted that her first article is in a tabloid, but hey, everyone has to start somewhere.

I must admit though that I her foray into journalism seemed a bit sudden/rushed. I wonder who we should blame:
- the writers
- or DC comics (coz they were the ones who imposed those restrictions on Lois' character thus tying the writers hands)

I guess once the restrictions were off, the writers had 2 seasons worth of character development to make-up for so voila! Lois has just published her first article in just one episode lol!

I also sensed that TPTB wanted to spark a bit of professional rivalry between Lois and Chloe. I like both Lois and Chloe so I hope it stays professional and not turn into anything nasty or overly dramatic.

[Chloe82]

Originally posted by trusupagyrl
I didn't like the way it happened. All of a sudden she writes one article and she is a journalist. Sorry, but I don't see it happening that way, but my opinion is biasest because I am a real journalist.

If you're a real journalist, then you know 'biasest' is not a word. Right? *is worried*

[poisonous_thorns]

Here I was ready to accept lois as the real lois lane and then what happens?....SNEEZE!!! What the bloody hell was that all about? I mean c'mon ppl is this supposed to be THE LOIS LANE of the future...I'm totally disgusted at how she was portrayed as a journalist (if you can call her that.) They've butchered the character!!!! I blame the writers for not developing her well...hell even fanfic writers can do better that that...MEGA LIGHTSWITCH!!!! BLEH! After seeing this episode, there can never be any redemption in my eyes even if they write her better in the comming episodes

[InLove_with_Chloe]

Originally posted by poisonous_thorns
Here I was ready to accept lois as the real lois lane and then what happens?....SNEEZE!!! What the bloody hell was that all about? I mean c'mon ppl is this supposed to be THE LOIS LANE of the future...I'm totally disgusted at how she was portrayed as a journalist (if you can call her that.) They've butchered the character!!!! I blame the writers for not developing her well...hell even fanfic writers can do better that that...MEGA LIGHTSWITCH!!!! BLEH! After seeing this episode, there can never be any redemption in my eyes even if they write her better in the comming episodes

Obviously, the writers want us to focus on the fourth dimension: time. Lois just embarked on a loooooooooooooong journey towards becoming the top-notch journalist she is once going to be. At least I hope so <crosses fingers>.

[ShelbyKent]

Originally posted by InLove_with_Chloe
Obviously, the writers want us to focus on the fourth dimension: time. Lois just embarked on a loooooooooooooong journey towards becoming the top-notch journalist she is once going to be. At least I hope so <crosses fingers>.

I agree. Cut Lois some slack and give her time to develop her journalist skills.

Look at Clark; it's been six seasons already and Clark is still nowhere near the great superhero he's going to be lol!

Lois has been on the show less than 2 seasons (because she's only in 13 eppies per season). So it's not fair or logical to expect her to suddenly become a flawless super journalist overnight (or in between her episode appearances!).

[RobynAdele0406]

Originally posted by ShelbyKent
Look at Clark; it's been six seasons already and Clark is still nowhere near the great superhero he's going to be lol!

Clark has been saving people since day one, episode one and hasn't stopped. It's your opinion that he's nowhere near becoming Superman. I don't think that way, so I'll have to disagree.


Originally posted by ShelbyKent
Lois has been on the show less than 2 seasons (because she's only in 13 eppies per season). So it's not fair or logical to expect her to suddenly become a flawless super journalist overnight (or in between her episode appearances!).

:confused: I think that's what we're all so upset about... no one's expecting her to become a journalist overnight, but that's what we got in "Sneeze". They could have made Lois a completely believable journalist in 26 episodes. But the writers chose to have her say "Kill me first" wrt journalism, then 2 years later, flick the switch.

[Farm_Girl]

I don't see a switch.

- Lois came to Smallville to investigate her cousin's death. Her instinct to find the truth.

- Entire episodes Gone, Facade and Devoted, showing her investigating and then directly involved in journalism, for grades or whatever reasons.

- Episodes like Recruit and Krypto where her instincts and curiosity to find truth leads her into trouble – classic Lois Lane trait.

- Exposed – where she involves herself into a dangerous and inappropriate situation to help out Chloe’s article.

- Solitude discussion between her and Chloe about finding Lex’s truth, and the future foreshadowing by showing her staring at the DP logo.

The timing and the odd situation in which the barn door fell in front of her, ignited her instincts to find out why it did, and the fact that it was Kent’s barn door and Chloe, Clark and Martha all acted as if it happens everyday, along with Chloe’s act of dissuading, aroused her more to find something and show them.

And her remark “Kill me first” was quite natural She had the instincts and natural talent but never thought of actually going there. Even at that I don’t think anyone thought that she is not the iconic Lois because she is saying no to journalism. We laughed at the irony when she said: “With my luck, I’d probably end up across the desk from the most bumbling reporter on the masthead”

The Clark which most of us agree is the ‘real’ Clark hates flying right now and despite of spending most of his time in the Daily Planet basement, he hasn’t written a word, but that doesn’t mean he never will.. Off course he will.. just like ‘Erica Durance’s "real" Lois Lane’ will become the Pulitzer winner journalist.

[son2380]

Why would the number 1 news paper in the world hire someone that used to work ata smut paper for extra terestrials and bigfoot. I really don't see the conversion here. Working at such a crappy paper would ruin your rep as a good reporter or as a reporter starting off.

The Writers are still screwing up the characters of Lois and Clark for Chloe.

[jimmyolsenblues]

lois of smallville does not even have a degree yet.
lois of the comics i believe has a degree.

[son2380]

What does that have to do with anything I have said.

[ShelbyKent]

Originally posted by RobynAdele0406
Clark has been saving people since day one, episode one and hasn't stopped. It's your opinion that he's nowhere near becoming Superman. I don't think that way, so I'll have to disagree.

I agree that Clark has been saving loads of people since Season one. No argument there.

When I said "nowhere near the great superhero he could be", I meant he still has not embraced his Kryptonian heritage, he still hasn't finished his training, oops! he let Zod out of the Phantom Zone and endangered Earth, he still would prefer a "normal" life (thus he does his Metropolis clean-up under the cover of darkness), and he has not mastered all his powers. In fact Clark is afraid of revealing his powers to the world. Clark hasn’t realized that he could do MORE with his powers to save and inspire people around the globe ; that he can do all that in the open ( wearing a costume of course) while still enjoying life as Clark Kent, Daily Planet reporter. Clark is nowhere near the being the guiding light for humanity that Jor-el wants him to be. Heck he doesn’t want humanity to know about him or his powers!

In short Clark hasn’t maximized his potential. That’s what I meant by nowhere near the great superhero he could be" the past 5 season. You can PM me if you want to discuss this further. We might get moderated coz this thread is supposed to be about Lois & journalism ;)


I think that's what we're all so upset about... no one's expecting her to become a journalist overnight, but that's what we got in "Sneeze". They could have made Lois a completely believable journalist in 26 episodes. But the writers chose to have her say "Kill me first" wrt journalism, then 2 years later, flick the switch

I’m a Lois fan but I also felt weird and rushed with the way Lois suddenly renewed her interest in news writing (and she was suddenly published within the episode, too!).

Note that I used the word “renewed”. TPTB already tried to show an involvement with journalism in Season 4 (Facade) when she wrote an article for the Torch about that lady plastic surgeon. And Lois did well with the article, showing that she had potential. So it’s not an “overnight” thing.

It would have been logical to slowly develop her interest from thereon, but for some reason or another TPTB dropped it. Maybe it also had something to do with DC’s character restrictions due to the Superman movie.

But TPTB have decided that Lois should now be involved with journalism again because perhaps it fits the Season’s story arc’s better. For whatever reason, from hereon let’s just give it time and see where this goes. There has to be a logical reason why the writers insisted on Lois’ reinvigorated interest in journalism the 2nd episode (again story arc perhaps?). We can only discern if this was a good idea or not when the entire season plays out.

So let’s give some time for this to develop. I just hope TPTB would be more consistent this season and not drop the journalism angle like they did in Season 4. That would be annoying and would do a disservice to the character .

[SnarkMasterJ]

Originally posted by Farm_Girl
I don't see a switch.

- Lois came to Smallville to investigate her cousin's death. Her instinct to find the truth.

- Entire episodes Gone, Facade and Devoted, showing her investigating and then directly involved in journalism, for grades or whatever reasons.

- Episodes like Recruit and Krypto where her instincts and curiosity to find truth leads her into trouble – classic Lois Lane trait.

- Exposed – where she involves herself into a dangerous and inappropriate situation to help out Chloe’s article.

- Solitude discussion between her and Chloe about finding Lex’s truth, and the future foreshadowing by showing her staring at the DP logo.

The timing and the odd situation in which the barn door fell in front of her, ignited her instincts to find out why it did, and the fact that it was Kent’s barn door and Chloe, Clark and Martha all acted as if it happens everyday, along with Chloe’s act of dissuading, aroused her more to find something and show them.

And her remark “Kill me first” was quite natural She had the instincts and natural talent but never thought of actually going there. Even at that I don’t think anyone thought that she is not the iconic Lois because she is saying no to journalism. We laughed at the irony when she said: “With my luck, I’d probably end up across the desk from the most bumbling reporter on the masthead”

The Clark which most of us agree is the ‘real’ Clark hates flying right now and despite of spending most of his time in the Daily Planet basement, he hasn’t written a word, but that doesn’t mean he never will.. Off course he will.. just like ‘Erica Durance’s "real" Lois Lane’ will become the Pulitzer winner journalist.

The difference is Clark has been shown season in and season out as a hero in the making. He hasn't arrived yet because the show isn't over. And citing his insecurities as reasons why it makes sense for EDLois to become what she's supposed to be is fallacious. The two don't apply. Yes, Clark will get where he's supposed to be eventually, but EDLois doesn't have the leeway Clark has -- her timeline is virtually expired. Frankly she was already supposed to be on the path two years ago when they had the bright idea to bring her on the show in the first place.

As for the isolated events where EDLois showed promise, well...they are just that. Isolated events. Random bursts of something recognizable among the sea of things that have nothing to do with accelerating her character toward what we all know she's supposed to be. She did all those things, and no one can debate that -- but what can be debated is the validity of it all. It's hard to invest stock in those events when the follow-through on what they were supposed to mean for her character are non-existant. Lois Lane isn't an occasional investigative reporter and journalist by trade -- it's a full time job. It's who she is, it's what she does, arguably 24/7, and she's damned good at it. Show me where that's true for EDLois and then we'll talk.

[khufu]

Originally posted by Farm_Girl
The Clark which most of us agree is the ‘real’ Clark hates flying right now and despite of spending most of his time in the Daily Planet basement, he hasn’t written a word, but that doesn’t mean he never will.. Off course he will.. just like ‘Erica Durance’s "real" Lois Lane’ will become the Pulitzer winner journalist. Clark is not supposed to enter journalism at the same time as Lois - he never has. When Clark arrives at the Daily Planet, Lois is already an established hot shot journalist. So trying to justify Lois' incredibly late entry into journalism by pointing towards Clark does not have any merit.


Originally posted by ShelbyKent
When I said "nowhere near the great superhero he could be", I meant he still has not embraced his Kryptonian heritage, he still hasn't finished his training, oops! he let Zod out of the Phantom Zone and endangered Earth, he still would prefer a "normal" life (thus he does his Metropolis clean-up under the cover of darkness), and he has not mastered all his powers. In fact Clark is afraid of revealing his powers to the world. Clark hasn’t realized that he could do MORE with his powers to save and inspire people around the globe ; that he can do all that in the open ( wearing a costume of course) while still enjoying life as Clark Kent, Daily Planet reporter. Clark is nowhere near the being the guiding light for humanity that Jor-el wants him to be. Heck he doesn’t want humanity to know about him or his powers!
This is a huge logical fallacy which I keep seeing people use to justify Lois' lack of interest in journalism. In short: Clark isn't "Superman" yet, therefore Lois doesn't have to be a journalist yet. Now, I'm not saying that their shoud not be *any* parallels between Lois' journey and Clark's, Bu there is no reason whatsoever to suggest that the pace and length of their journies should be the same. It an general sense, they are both heros, and as such their journies will likely conform to a certain formula - similar types of experiences and trials and so forth. However, where they differ (and significantly so) is in the manner with which each person will ultimately come to accept and embrace their respective destinies, and it's because of this last point that we should not expect the timing to necessarily match up. The destinies of Clark and Lex (Naman and Sageeth) are linked together as defined in Skinwalker/Talisman. They each represent the reluctant hero and the reluctant villain respectively. Both have good reason to fight their destinies along the way. Lois Lane, however, does not! Her destiny does not warrant the same sense of reluctance that the world's greatest hero and the world's greatest villain do. So it really does not make sense for her to fight her destiny, and therefore we should not expect it to take as long as the others to accept and embrace that destiny. So while her journey (as a heroine) should parallel certain aspects of Clark's (the hero), there is nothing to support the notion that it should take the exact same amount of time.

Clark is an alien from another galaxy who is being called upon to be the saviour of planet Earth. Not to mention that initially, he was lead to believe that it was his destiny to [b]conquer[/i] Earth. So he has every reason to struggle against this enormous responsibility. The same can be said for Lex and his evil side - it makes sense for him to struggle against it. And in fact, that's really what Smallville is about. But what reason would Lois Lane have not to embrace her destiny much sooner? Ultimately, she will become the best because of her passion, so why does everyone think that she should not have embraced her destiny a long time ago? There is absolutely nothing to support the argument that "Lois doesn't have to be a journalist because Clark isn't Superman yet". It is an assumption without merit.

[MBCorp]

Originally posted by khufu
This is a huge logical fallacy which I keep seeing people use to justify Lois' lack of interest in journalism. In short: Clark isn't "Superman" yet, therefore Lois doesn't have to be a journalist yet. Now, I'm not saying that their shoud not be *any* parallels between Lois' journey and Clark's, Bu there is no reason whatsoever to suggest that the pace and length of their journies should be the same. It an general sense, they are both heros, and as such their journies will likely conform to a certain formula - similar types of experiences and trials and so forth. However, where they differ (and significantly so) is in the manner with which each person will ultimately come to accept and embrace their respective destinies, and it's because of this last point that we should not expect the timing to necessarily match up. The destinies of Clark and Lex (Naman and Sageeth) are linked together as defined in Skinwalker/Talisman. They each represent the reluctant hero and the reluctant villain respectively. Both have [b]good reason to fight their destinies along the way. Lois Lane, however, does not! Her destiny does not warrant the same sense of reluctance that the world's greatest hero and the world's greatest villain do. So it really does not make sense for her to fight her destiny, and therefore we should not expect it to take as long as the others to accept and embrace that destiny. So while her journey (as a heroine) should parallel certain aspects of Clark's (the hero), there is nothing to support the notion that it should take the exact same amount of time.

Clark is an alien from another galaxy who is being called upon to be the saviour of planet Earth. Not to mention that initially, he was lead to believe that it was his destiny to conquer[/i] Earth. So he has every reason to struggle against this enormous responsibility. The same can be said for Lex and his evil side - it makes sense for him to struggle against it. And in fact, that's really what Smallville is about. But what reason would Lois Lane have not to embrace her destiny much sooner? Ultimately, she will become the best because of her passion, so why does everyone think that she should not have embraced her destiny a long time ago? There is absolutely nothing to support the argument that "Lois doesn't have to be a journalist because Clark isn't Superman yet". It is an assumption without merit.

Well, obviously the writers of the show disagree with this viewpoint since they went the reluctant route with Lois for two seasons straight. You can't blame people for making this argument since the writers themselves have presented Lois this way.

[Khyla]

Well put khufu. ! I couldn;t agree more with what you've said!

[kiki39]

I dislike the way the writers have handled Lois' sudden interest into journalism. But I do realize that the writers were limited by the restrictions put on her character because of SR. Now that these restrictions have been listed they are suddenly - and ridciouly - moving at warp speed to make Lois a journalist. I mean a barn door is the catalyst? Not Jonathan's sudden death? The massive meteor shower and resulting devastation ? Or even her supposed near-death experience in 'Zod'? At the very least, through out season four and five we did get glimpses of the potential Lois had as a reporter.

As for Clark, I hope he grows more into the hero he becomes. Yes, he is always saving people but I'm talking about the characteristics that Clark Kent is supposed to embody. He relies way too much on Chloe. Clark has a brain, and Superman didn't have to discuss everything first with someone else. I'd like to see Clark starting to be more decisive and putting some things together himself. A stronger, self-confident and decisive Clark is someone I'd love to see this season.

Secondly, Clark needs to start thinking through the implications of his actions and behaviour. He shows glimpses of this but not nearly enough. He has these incredible powers but that should mean a degree of awareness of their consequences.

[son2380]

Originally posted by kiki39
I dislike the way the writers have handled Lois' sudden interest into journalism. But I do realize that the writers were limited by the restrictions put on her character because of SR. Now that these restrictions have been listed they are suddenly - and ridciouly - moving at warp speed to make Lois a journalist. I mean a barn door is the catalyst? Not Jonathan's sudden death? The massive meteor shower and resulting devastation ? Or even her supposed near-death experience in 'Zod'? At the very least, through out season four and five we did get glimpses of the potential Lois had as a reporter.

As for Clark, I hope he grows more into the hero he becomes. Yes, he is always saving people but I'm talking about the characteristics that Clark Kent is supposed to embody. He relies way too much on Chloe. Clark has a brain, and Superman didn't have to discuss everything first with someone else. I'd like to see Clark starting to be more decisive and putting some things together himself. A stronger, self-confident and decisive Clark is someone I'd love to see this season.

Secondly, Clark needs to start thinking through the implications of his actions and behaviour. He shows glimpses of this but not nearly enough. He has these incredible powers but that should mean a degree of awareness of their consequences.


I agree with everything you have said

[Wingz Of Steel]

I just wish it would have been handled with a little more creativity...I wouldn't say it was "lightswitching" since she has shown an investigative personality in seasons past, but when I think of the great Lois Lane (Arguably the greatest reporter in comicbook history) I don't see a mysterious barn-door story as her key into the door of Journalism..The fact the Inquisitor would even put that on the front page is idiotic at best and all the ammunition anti Lois/"lightswiching" fans needed...I don't see SV's Lois ever being better than Chloe Sullivan and while I'd like to just ignore that it's hard not to..

I think it would have been better if Lois finally went to college off-screen for some time than cameback inspired by some teacher, or story that gets her into Journalism...Or perhaps she had to write a speech or something for Martha and gets highly criticized to the point she gets serious about her craft...Chloe dying seems to be the best inspiration for her keeping the torch lit for journalism, but who knows if the SV writers have those type of guts...Unfortunatley her Inquistor subplot seems to be just a means to an end (Much like her TnA-shots)...

[boywithbluehanger]

Ok Im going to reword my original post:

When a guy from The Inquisitor (Mr. Nixon) tried to blackmail Lex in season 1's fourth episode X-Ray, Lex threatened to completely erase his identification records. So Nixon called for a truce but Lex stated that it was too late. And instead Lex agreed to allow Nixon to keep his identity at the cost of leaving Lex in charge of what gets printed by the Inquisitor.

*Originally it was hinted that Lex only wanted to control what was printed about himself in the paper but he didnt say just 'himself' but instead "what gets printed" *

Lois may be in for more than she bargained for...of course thats unless tptb chose not to follow their ever-so-perfect continuity streak ;)

[khufu]

Originally posted by ShelbyKent
I must admit though that I her foray into journalism seemed a bit sudden/rushed. I wonder who we should blame:
- the writers
- or DC comics (coz they were the ones who imposed those restrictions on Lois' character thus tying the writers hands)

I guess once the restrictions were off, the writers had 2 seasons worth of character development to make-up for so voila! Lois has just published her first article in just one episode lol!No one ever said at any time that Lois was not allowed to get into hournalism. FYI - that was never a restriction on her character. The restriction was that she could not be at the Daily Planet. Otherwise, she would not have been allowed to be at the Torch - since that's journalism. So they could have had her be a journalist for MetU's paper or have her gradually begin at The Ledger. Only the planet was off limits.


Originally posted by boywithbluehanger
*Originally it was hinted that Lex only wanted to control what was printed about himself in the paper but he didnt say just 'himself' but instead "what gets printed" *

Lois may be in for more than she bargained for...of course thats unless tptb chose not to follow their ever-so-perfect continuity streak ;) That's a very interesting statement you make about being in for more than she's bargained for, because I've been thinking that there might even be more to The Inquisitor hiring her so quickly. I wonder, since her story was about the Kent's barn door, if someone at the Iniquisitor might be using Lois to get closer to the Kent's. There are two reasons this might be the case - 1) the Kent farm has been in the press before and related to paranormal activity, and 2) she is close to Senator Kent. I wonder if someone might be planning to play Lois.

[kazek]

Yeah...now that's interesting..I love it when someone starts trying to dig into the Kents' life....
Keep it up Lois......am loving it

[boywithbluehanger]

Originally posted by khufu
That's a very interesting statement you make about being in for more than she's bargained for, because I've been thinking that there might even be more to The Inquisitor hiring her so quickly. I wonder, since her story was about the Kent's barn door, if someone at the Iniquisitor might be using Lois to get closer to the Kent's. There are two reasons this might be the case - 1) the Kent farm has been in the press before and related to paranormal activity, and 2) she is close to Senator Kent. I wonder if someone might be planning to play Lois.

Exactlty!! :D You should start a thread on the Smallville Spoilers and Speculation forum. This would be nice to explore deeper.

[Farm_Girl]

Originally posted by SnarkMasterJ
The difference is Clark has been shown season in and season out as a hero in the making. He hasn't arrived yet because the show isn't over. And citing his insecurities as reasons why it makes sense for EDLois to become what she's supposed to be is fallacious. The two don't apply. Yes, Clark will get where he's supposed to be eventually, but EDLois doesn't have the leeway Clark has -- her timeline is virtually expired. Frankly she was already supposed to be on the path two years ago when they had the bright idea to bring her on the show in the first place.

As for the isolated events where EDLois showed promise, well...they are just that. Isolated events. Random bursts of something recognizable among the sea of things that have nothing to do with accelerating her character toward what we all know she's supposed to be. She did all those things, and no one can debate that -- but what can be debated is the validity of it all. It's hard to invest stock in those events when the follow-through on what they were supposed to mean for her character are non-existant. Lois Lane isn't an occasional investigative reporter and journalist by trade -- it's a full time job. It's who she is, it's what she does, arguably 24/7, and she's damned good at it. Show me where that's true for EDLois and then we'll talk.

None of the above answers my question -- Do you believe Clark is the real Clark despite that he hates to fly and hasn't written a word?

If No, then I don't see why you are watching Smallville?

And If Yes, then you can also believe that Lois will become a successful journalist. There can be no problem with that except the fact that you cant stand Lois as she puts an end to all other shippers. Accept it, it's the only reason!!

Clark hasn't arrived there because the show isn't over? The show isn't over for Lois as well, that is why she hasn't arrived there either.. she will.. wait and watch!!

She should've arrived there two years ago and her time has expired??? What are you trying to say here? Hello are you even reading what you are writing?

What I said was based on the events shown on Smallville. What you replied is not even a theory. Give some valid points to prove me wrong, if you have!!!!

[boywithbluehanger]

I never understand all of the fuss. Sure, tptb did a quick, crappy job getting her into journalism. But why not talk about the comparisons to other Lois's that still ring true in EDLois. She came on the show overly spunky and with an annoying attitude problem - like other Lois's. And she came on the show overly nosey - like other Lois's. Like Jack said "Thats two outta three, and that aint bad!"

So what if journalism is her passion, she found her way into it by being possibly inspired by Chloe. And it all jumpstarted thanks to Clark nearly killing her! Its irony and quickly done, but it works. Now its even more interesting because if in the future she says she got to where she is all by herself (which she probably would say) Chloe and Clark would both know they had a hand in her becoming interested in journalism.

I could see if they made her the pushover, quiet type who hated journalism. But lets face it, character-wise the only thing missing from this Lois so far was motivation to become a journalist. Shes already proven that she can work hard, while being nosey and an annoyance.

[SnarkMasterJ]

Originally posted by Farm_Girl
None of the above answers my question -- Do you believe Clark is the real Clark despite that he hates to fly and hasn't written a word?

If No, then I don't see why you are watching Smallville?

And If Yes, then you can also believe that Lois will become a successful journalist. There can be no problem with that except the fact that you cant stand Lois as she puts an end to all other shippers. Accept it, it's the only reason!!
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Clark hasn't arrived there because the show isn't over? The show isn't over for Lois as well, that is why she hasn't arrived there either.. she will.. wait and watch!!

She should've arrived there two years ago and her time has expired??? What are you trying to say here? Hello are you even reading what you are writing?

What I said was based on the events shown on Smallville. What you replied is not even a theory. Give some valid points to prove me wrong, if you have!!!!

You didn't ask me if I believed Clark was the real Clark. In fact you didn't ask me anything. Clark is the real Clark, whether I believe it or not.

Puts an end to all shippers? Are you even reading what YOU are writing? And no, one does not follow the other. Me believing in Clark's validity as Superman does not equate me believing in EDLois's validity as the real Lois Lane. If you think that, fine. But it's not true for me, and it won't ever be so.

And the events you based your post on are your view of what qualifies EDLois of her iconic status. I don't aspire to your views. And I don't have to. My post said why.

[Kal-ed]

Originally posted by SnarkMasterJ
. Clark is the real Clark, whether I believe it or not.


Then its only fair that you do the same with Lois. Whether you belive it or not Lois is Lois. If you dont use the same criteria then your opinon (as much as your intitled to one) looses validity.

[SnarkMasterJ]

Originally posted by Kal-ed
Then its only fair that you do the same with Lois. Whether you belive it or not Lois is Lois. If you dont use the same criteria then your opinon (as much as your intitled to one) looses validity.

My opinion isn't any less valid because I don't like the same character you like. So you are wrong about that. You can say my argument loses validity (and that's YOUR opinion), but my point of view doesn't mean less because it doesn't align with yours.

And It's not about being fair. I see potential in Clark -- I don't see it in EDLois. That's my perrogative. So since I'm entitled to my own opinion, well...that's my opinion.

[Kal-ed]

Originally posted by khufu
No one ever said at any time that Lois was not allowed to get into hournalism. FYI - that was never a restriction on her character. The restriction was that she could not be at the Daily Planet. Otherwise, she would not have been allowed to be at the Torch

FYI, the restriction was on journalism and unless you got a contac in the SV´s or the CW´s legal departament, you couldnt know the specifics. AlMiles said that ther was a restriction on Journalism and romantic Clois because of the movie, we were never told more about it and there were never specifics about the journalism.

They had her in the torch cause the restrictions came right after, why do you think that romantic Clois started so big and then suddenly died: Lana was talking about Roma Clois by the 2 episode (in the caves in Gone) and Chloe noticing roma Clois by the 3rd one (pep ralley in Facade). Those scenes were not forshadowing, those scenes were of a present of an attraction. But then it got shut down, maybe a DC suit or an SR producer saw this could become an issue with the upcoming movie and sent out the restriction, I dont know all I know and is clear is that after Devoted the whole romantic Clois and Journalism, completely dissapeared. Since then nobody, not Chloe not Lana said or did anything concerning what they saw, the ones who previously had seen it so clear to the point that Lana simply asumed that Clark was with Lois, or at least falling for her (hence she said "I thought it would take US longer to get over it") and Chloe´s broken heart face during the dunk tank scene (plus the song), it showed tha Chloe realized that there was somethin big between Clark and Lois (and not friendly), something enough for her to feel threatend by it. And then poof, next epi, Chloe and Lana are oblivious to what they had clearly seen before; Lana never asked Clark about how things were going between him and Lois, Chloe never eyed them suspiciously (or jealously for that matter) or hinted that she saw something there in the pep ralley, it seems like it was all completely forgotten, buried and any PRESENT reference to romance was completely out of the question, and so was journalism, one day she wrote a pice for the Torch that got good reviews and then investigated the hormone thing and next time the journalism issue was adressed she says she would rather die (or something along those lines)????? See the contrast between the first 4 episodes and the rest of the 4th season and the whole 5th season???


Originally posted by SnarkMasterJ
My opinion isn't any less valid because I don't like the same character you like. So you are wrong about that. You can say my argument loses validity (and that's YOUR opinion), but my point of view doesn't mean less because it doesn't align with yours.


You didnt get what I said I never said your opinion wasnt valid cause you dont like a character I like, i said it became less valid if you are contradicting yourself using one criteria to aproach an issue of characters being their Iconic selves: Clark being Clark. And then u used a completely different criterea to aproach the same issue just with a different character: Lois.

You said Clark is Clark whether you belive it or not. So given your previous point it would be safe to asume that Lois is Lois whether you belive it or not. But thats the catch you argue that Lois is not Lois cause you dont belive it.

Your opinion is valid, it will always be, your point however can be less valid if its contradicting a previous point you made.