The hard disk

[xrayvision]

Do you think Lex will try to put the pieces of the hard disk into the octagonal keyhole in the cave wall since it looks like it may fit?

[GottaLoveHotSuperHeros]

I don't think it would fit, but he'll mess with it some

[DECKASTYLE]

there's no way it will fit, its too big... but, thats what lana said last night.

[scoutbb]

Bwahahaha!

[xrayvision]

Lana: Are you the Keymaster?

[warriorrenegade]

No. Im sure he'll screw around with it some. Why else would they show him holding it.

No Lionel is the keymaster:lol:

[xrayvision]

So Lana + Lionel = the coming of Gozer/Staypuft Marshmellow Man.

[Spirit Detective]

I think the hard disk serves as a storyline for future episodes. It will probably drive Lex mad like the Black Ship and producing the vaccine both did.

[Liriel]

Well, I hope it doesn't turn out to be forgotten about like the newspaper clipping from "Arrival"

[thehenry89]

Originally posted by DECKASTYLE
there's no way it will fit, its too big... but, thats what lana said last night.

omg wtf :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

[xrayvision]

I wonder if he gets it cut down to fit the dimensions of the keyhole, if it would do anything, like allow the disk to be read.

[Lightning Flash]

He might think of it... but he sure will do something.

[xrayvision]

The first thing I noticed about it was the shape and how similar it was to Clark's key.

[SmallvilleFan2001]

I haven't seen the hard drive since the episode aired. But when I saw it I thought it resembled the table in the cave more than the key itself. It looked like it had symbols around the outside and cutting across it diagonally. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

[warriorrenegade]

Originally posted by SmallvilleFan2001
I haven't seen the hard drive since the episode aired. But when I saw it I thought it resembled the table in the cave more than the key itself. It looked like it had symbols around the outside and cutting across it diagonally. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

I think you're right, it does look similar to the table in the cave. But Lex would't be able to use it on the table, cause I believe the disk is made of kryptonian metal and nothing on earth could heat it enough to make it malleable, except Clark.

[Spirit Detective]

The hard disk is MUCH bigger than the Clark's Key. Maybe if Lex goes to the south pole and he throw the hardrive into the antartic, he'll unleash the Black Ship hidden under the snow.

[Poweranimals]

Originally posted by Liriel
Well, I hope it doesn't turn out to be forgotten about like the newspaper clipping from "Arrival" What newspaper clipping?

[SmallvilleFan2001]

Originally posted by Poweranimals
What newspaper clipping?

The one reporting the deaths of Jason and his mother during the second meteor shower. Lex wrote that Lana owed him one for taking care of it for her.

[Poweranimals]

Originally posted by SmallvilleFan2001
The one reporting the deaths of Jason and his mother during the second meteor shower. Lex wrote that Lana owed him one for taking care of it for her. I don't get what was so forgotten about it.

[xrayvision]

Well...if they're smart, that will be used as a leveraging (blackmail) tool by Lex once he notices that Lana is pulling away from him. Now that would make for a very interesting plot. I want to see that badly. And I want Chloe to neutralize his threat (blackmail) by countering it with her own blackmail scheme involving Lex's participation in the Brigette Crosby murder cover-up. It would be cool if she, Clark, and Pete (who should be brought back as Lex's political advisor) all work together to find clues and evidence of Crosby's remains and existence and Lex's involvement.


Originally posted by Spirit Detective
The hard disk is MUCH bigger than the Clark's Key. Maybe if Lex goes to the south pole and he throw the hardrive into the antartic, he'll unleash the Black Ship hidden under the snow.

Or perhaps Zod's anti-FOS? That would be an interesting angle. What if Jor-El's essence has been transferred to that disk? Maybe that's something Zod did to prevent him from occupying the FOS and stopping his plans.


Originally posted by SmallvilleFan2001
I haven't seen the hard drive since the episode aired. But when I saw it I thought it resembled the table in the cave more than the key itself. It looked like it had symbols around the outside and cutting across it diagonally. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Well, shape-wise, all 3 (the altar/table, key, and hard disk are all octagonal). So they all look similar. The key does have some symbols on it, but not as many as the table does (those symbols probably tell which stone is to be placed in which spot).

Hmmm.....those 3 items are all octagonal. An octagon has 8 sides, and 8 is the number that resembles the House of El symbol. Sounds too coincidental. I wonder....

[Pal-El]

^Pete should not be brought back as lex's political advisor!! :eek:

[Kal El, Hero]

SmallvilleFan2001...BINGO! I started a thread earlier commenting that the crystal from the season 4 Finale was engraved in the centre of the disc, but never thought of the whole disc representing the table itself, which would fit my theory perfectly. The crystal originally went in the middle of the table, and now it does again for the disc...reckon TPTB are going to give us a good storyline here, or are we going to be real pi*sed off when they completely ignore it?!

[Billyk]

Well, shape-wise, all 3 (the altar/table, key, and hard disk are all octagonal). So they all look similar. The key does have some symbols on it, but not as many as the table does (those symbols probably tell which stone is to be placed in which spot).
Hmmm.....those 3 items are all octagonal. An octagon has 8 sides, and 8 is the number that resembles the House of El symbol. Sounds too coincidental. I wonder....

here is the hard disc/table comparison shot:

click here (http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/9184/tableanddiscvv6.jpg)

[Pal-El]

Originally posted by Kal El, Hero
SmallvilleFan2001...BINGO! I started a thread earlier commenting that the crystal from the season 4 Finale was engraved in the centre of the disc, but never thought of the whole disc representing the table itself, which would fit my theory perfectly. The crystal originally went in the middle of the table, and now it does again for the disc...reckon TPTB are going to give us a good storyline here, or are we going to be real pi*sed off when they completely ignore it?!

What crystal goes in the centre of the disk?

[un--predictable]

i dont think it would even fit in one of the cave holes....didint he get the hard disk from the black ship?..

[xrayvision]

Yeah. But there may be an undiscovered part of the cave that has a Kryptonian hard disk reader. I'm assuming that hard disks on Krypton are pretty much standard and not custom. Or if they are custom, then maybe both Jor-El and Zod used the same type. We know Jor-El took part in the Kryptonian government (according to usual mythos and maybe even Smallville mythos since he created the PZ, which is used by the Kryptonian govt to imprison criminals) along with science/technology experiments (hence the ship he created for Kal-El/Clark). Zod must have also been a 1-time good guy involved with the government. After all, his name is General Zod (refers to a military position). So they likely both had access to the type of hard disk seen in Zod.

So since Jor-El had input into the Kawatche cave technology, and if he also had access to the type of disk Zod used, then it may be possible that one of the cave walls has a hard disk reader for Clark or himself (while on Earth to download info to the cave) to use. Maybe the keyhole has the ability to expand to fit the hard disk. That wall did download the Kryptonian language to Clark, so it does have data transfer capability. The keyhole also disappeared (or got altered) various times, so that may be another clue that it can adapt to fit the hard disk.


Originally posted by Billyk
here is the hard disc/table comparison shot:

click here (http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/9184/tableanddiscvv6.jpg)

I didn't get a good glimpse of it when I watched it, but your capture shows that they are very similar (maybe the hard disk was technology created by Jor-El and stolen by Zod).

But besides the table and Zod's hard disk, Clark's ship key (though having different symbols on it and in a different pattern), is also octaganal. I wonder if the fact that the disk, table and key are all octagonal means anything (since octagons have 8 sides, and the figure 8 Kryptonian symbol is the El Family crest). If it does mean something, then there are 2 possibilities:

1. Zod may be a member of the El family, since all El family members use octagonal disks, since 8 (referring to the sides of an octagon) is their family symbol.

2. Zod is not a member of the El family, but stole the disk, which was a prototype of Jor-El's. This may mean that the Brain Interactive Construct is also Jor-El's invention, and stolen by Zod.

I'm guessing the fact that the El family crest is the same as the # of sides the table, key, and disk have is most likely a coincidence done by TPTB to create a buzz or speculation amongst fans, but at the end may not mean anything.

Another thought is that if the thickness is the same as Clark's key, then it may fit into the slot in the table. It would be awesome if Clark gets his hands on that fragmented hard disk and puts them together in that slot and instead of getting teleported to the FOS, he gets teleported into the black ship (wherever Zod sent it).

EDIT:

After seeing your photo, I remembered something, so I popped in my 6th CD from the season 2 set and took a screen capture from Calling. I added it to the same hosting service you did and it's linked below. You can see that after Dr. Walden messed around with it, the pattern of symbols also looks like those on the table and hard disk.

http://img167.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cap001dr1.jpg

[SmallvilleFan2001]

xrayvision, while I agree that the similarities are more than coincidental. I doubt the disk was stolen by Zod. That's more complicated than it needs to be. It's probably just common technology from Krypton.

***EDIT***
What I mean is that just because I have a house key (Clark's Ship Key) and you have a car key (the black ship drive), it doesn't mean you somehow stole your car key from me. They're just common pieces of our daily lives.


Has anyone tried to translate the kryptonian symbols from the screen captures, maybe they'll say something.

[Spirit Detective]

2. Zod is not a member of the El family, but stole the disk, which was a prototype of Jor-El's. This may mean that the Brain Interactive Construct is also Jor-El's invention, and stolen by Zod.

I think Jor-El and Zod worked on Brainiac, but Zod betrayed Jor-El with his facist views and reprogrammed Brainiac by destroying a crystal (like he destroyed a crystal in Superman 2).

So the hard disk could fit into some portion of the cave because it was a collaboration of both Jor-el and Zod.

[xrayvision]

Originally posted by Spirit Detective
I think Jor-El and Zod worked on Brainiac, but Zod betrayed Jor-El with his facist views and reprogrammed Brainiac by destroying a crystal (like he destroyed a crystal in Superman 2).

So the hard disk could fit into some portion of the cave because it was a collaboration of both Jor-el and Zod.

This sounds like a cool theory and is very similar to the main story behind Mega Man 3 on the NES that I played as a kid:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mega_Man_3#Story

[kal-el03]

I don't think it fits into the octagonal keyhole , it looked more like an octagonal/rectangular hardrive to me. But I'm sure he'll be working on it, and probably will recover some of its info.

[thehenry89]

it shall return.

[smallvillecrazygurl04]

he will try and manage some way to make it fit.

[Spirit Detective]

Lex isn't smart enough to remember continuity (like where his long lost brother Lucas is after "Prodigal"). Lex probably won't be involved with the caves anymore.

[xrayvision]

Originally posted by Spirit Detective
Lex isn't smart enough to remember continuity (like where his long lost brother Lucas is after "Prodigal"). Lex probably won't be involved with the caves anymore.

But from Reunion, it seems like Lionel is. Those pictures of the symbols he had looked like they had the background of the cave walls. Lionel must have discovered something.


Originally posted by SmallvilleFan2001
xrayvision, while I agree that the similarities are more than coincidental. I doubt the disk was stolen by Zod. That's more complicated than it needs to be. It's probably just common technology from Krypton.

***EDIT***
What I mean is that just because I have a house key (Clark's Ship Key) and you have a car key (the black ship drive), it doesn't mean you somehow stole your car key from me. They're just common pieces of our daily lives.


Has anyone tried to translate the kryptonian symbols from the screen captures, maybe they'll say something.

It's starting to seem like Zod did steal it. I just realized in Billyk's screenshot that the center of Zod's disk has an octagon with a shape that looks *exactly* like the crystal that formed the FOS. Zod had no role in the creation of the FOS, which is strictly created by and for the El family (which is why only Jor-El occupies it). So since the FOS is of the El family and the shape of the crystal that formed it appears on the disk, I'm pretty sure the disk is originally Jor-El's as well.

Remember in the comics mythos, Jor-El and the El family are/have been scientists and have done many experiments and a lot of research. I think they created that technology. I think members of the El family have been coming to Earth for a long time as seen in Relic (not all Kryptonians, but strictly El family members) and they were the ones who put the stones on Earth (not other Kryptonians). I think Jor-El's mission in Relic was to continue the experiments of his family and was part of a technology transfer from Krypton to Earth.

I really hope they have another flashback episode around the time Clark starts training that shows what Jor-El was actually doing before he left Earth during his visit that was shown in Relic. They did it with Lex, and doing it with Clark and his family is necessary.