Chlark crapped on

[Welling_is_pretty]

I was sitting there, watching the Chlark reunion scene and watching Chloe blow off Clark (who was SO obviously hoping for something to happen between them; c'mon he looked so expectant and then so crushed!) and thinking, wow I wish I could smack both of them upside the head--with shovels!

Anyone remember back in Season 1 when Clark fell for Chloe when he found out she liked him? Boy, is that boy suceptible! Now Chloe showed him that she liked him again and he was all "yay! Lana and I are over but here's another girl who will love me and who I can love in return" because, let's face it, CLark is the type who has to have someone to love, and then she shoots him down and goes off with James Olsen!
Sheesh!

I do think that maybe Chloe said that line about the kiss being because of the end of the world like that because she probably thought Clark was going to say that to her and she wanted to beat him to the punch, as it were. She was likely trying to spare herself pain.
Still, wanted to smack them both.

And then the SV writers.

And AlandMiles.

;)

[EllenF]

Turns out I may have made the right decision. Guess which side is agonizing over Chloe dumping on Clark yet again? It's the Chlark/Chlois fans. But the ones who've been skeptical and the EDLois fans are the ones prevailing. The winds are at their backs and against the Chloisers.

Grin. I'm not agonizing, personally. The show has at least one season left, and possibly two, and I would hardly have expected them to resolve *any* romance at this point. I've said it before and I'll say it again: No conflict, no plot. Happy characters are boring characters. Especially on "Smallville," where the writers don't know how to write happy characters.

I'm not at all upset by "Chloe dumping on Clark." Now if Clark had been the one to say, "Sorry, not interested," that would have likely spelled the end of Chlark. But he didn't, and he was clearly VERY happy to see her (<<<-----). And Chloe was the one to reject *him*. That's a reversal, and that happens in shows and movies with a romantic element *all the time*. Now Clark gets to pine for Chloe (although hopefully not to excess-- we've seen quite enough of MopeyClark, thank you). It's a typical romance setup, and pretty much what most of us were expecting, honestly. And it was almost necessary-- the man has ignored her for several years now, and if she just jumped for him the minute he looked in her direction, it would come across as kind of pitiful.

And I've said this elsewhere, but I'll say it here, too: IMO, the Clark/Chloe/Jimmy scene wasn't a resolution. It was a setup for the rest of the season.

[lastdaughterofkrypton]

Originally posted by MBCorp
I'm not a Chlarker, and I'm going to get kicked out of the anti-Chlark fanclub for saying this, but like I said the night of the premiere, the way that scene was handled practically screamed a future romantic set up. Look at the way it was framed, the expressions on the faces of the actors, the dialogue, etc. Who knows, maybe they will end up dropping it (you never know with SV writers) but as it stands now it gives the impression that more will be done with this Clark & Chloe situation. Oh yes, indeed. I've seen this setup in tons of movies, tv shows, books, etc.

Of course, it could just be the show toying with all of the shippers by giving everyone false hopes. Guess we'll just have to wait and see.
Hey I'm a Chlaker and I admit the Clois foreshadowing wich is getting on my nerves because at this point I just want resolution. If they go Chlois I cna start to save to buy the DVDs and if they go Clois I can go and watch Ugly Betty (Wich I skiped for thsi freaking show!) and go on to better stories but in this case we just gonna watch anvils for both girls in the same episode...damn you, TPTB! :mad:

[All about Clark]

I prefer to be pleased by both. Clois is way behind Chlark for now. By end of the season there will be Chlark and by end of season 7 there will be Clois. I'm going to enjoy the ride TPTB are taking me with both girls.

[lastdaughterofkrypton]

Originally posted by Lobby4Chloe
So what's supposed to be the 'gun'? Clark wanting something to happen? Or Jimmy's introduction? You lost me.
The gun is Clark he didn't get to talk to Chloe about his feelings so there must be a time for it again the point is that Chloe has had feeligns for Clark for 5 years for no reaso so in the end it must hook up with him or die because of them
Since i'm a good sports I might say that there is two guns in the premiere in the shipping department Clois is foreshadowed as well is less leaborate and more ambiguous but is there never the less but someone pointed out that they could had foreshadowed EDlois death as well so we need to wait and see ;)


Originally posted by Krypto/DQ/
And it seems its gonna continu that way:


http://www.allisonmackonline.com/modules/xcgal/albums/smallville/season6/newpromos/2006-s602-01.jpg

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This is from the episode 3, Wither.

It really seems like a Chlark scene to me.(but yes its jsut pictures)

Interesting that Jimmy is the one interrupting Chloe and Clark this tell us who is the person in the middle of the triangle ;)....
OK for the ones that can't read between lines Jimmy is in the way of Chlark :p

[Spirit Detective]

Does anyone get the feeling that Clark was going to hook up with Chloe if Jimmy never appeared? It's weird because Chloe has always wanted Clark and now Clark feels the same way about her. Why she chose Jimmy is beyond me, especially after that kiss in Vessel.

[RemDiamond]

And it was almost necessary-- the man has ignored her for several years now, and if she just jumped for him the minute he looked in her direction, it would come across as kind of pitiful.

ITA! I think it was important to show that Chloe isn't Clark's rebound and to prove to Chloe and the audience that he truly is interested in her and isn't just falling back on their relationship because he doesn't want to be alone and he knows she has feelings for him.

[MBCorp]

Originally posted by cotton candy girl
As an anti-Chlark person I admit that it looked like Clark was interested in Chloe, but I was left confused by that scene vis-a-vis the Clois scene. I don't know what to think.

Yeah, that's why I also said this:


Of course, it could just be the show toying with all of the shippers by giving everyone false hopes. Guess we'll just have to wait and see.

They threw in both a Chlark and Clois moment so it's hard to figure out what their game is. Maybe they're setting up Chlark to happen later this season and the Clois moment was just foreshadowing their future romance? Or maybe we'll get Chlark/Clois tension throughout the season, with tptb trying to keep all of the shippers happy? I really have no idea! IMO the Jimmy/Chloe/Clark scene was such a blatant setup though that I just can't write it off.

[Spirit Detective]

Originally posted by RemDiamond
ITA! I think it was important to show that Chloe isn't Clark's rebound and to prove to Chloe and the audience that he truly is interested in her and isn't just falling back on their relationship because he doesn't want to be alone and he knows she has feelings for him.

You're right! See shouldn't be Clark's rebound.

[TalkinMac]

Originally posted by DorothyFan1
It's clear Al/Miles don't want to dip into the controversial idea of "remaking" Lois Lane at this late stage. For Chloe to dump on Clark like that yet AGAIN...proves she's not for him. Not now...not ever. This means she's not Lois Lane.




It is called bad writing. And I am not really all for the Chlois theory as I doubt the writers would ever do something unpredictable for once. I don't get how Chloe was dumping on Clark. I found Chloe's behavior towards Clark totally unchloe like. She practically ignored Clark. I guess we are to assume that Clark suddenly has feelings for Chloe now. They will never feel the same way for each other at the same time, Chlark is doomed never to happen.

[Spirit Detective]

It's like Clana, it wasn't meant to be, which is sad because Clark really has no one left (excluding female guest stars).

[TalkinMac]

Atleast Clana were actually together romantically for more than ten seconds, le sigh.

[Farm_Girl]

IMHO:

Clark tried to hook up with Chloe in Tempest, when he didn’t see any future with Lana. But with a slightest glimpse of hope, he left Chloe in the middle.

In S5, his hopes of being with Lana are finally over, and he is single now, so Chloe's kiss was an opening for him. He trusts her and she is her best friend, so he thought, why not, give it a shot!

When he brings up the kiss, he expects Chloe to fully respond and pine for him like she always does, but the result.. TOTALLY UNEXPECTED for Clark!!

So definitely he is shocked to see Jimmy and to learn the fact that Chloe can prefer someone else over him. For Clark, Chloe is his best friend and the one who is always there when he “needs” her. Finding out that she has someone special in her life too, definitely made him jealous for a moment.

However, I don’t think that’ll develop into some serious rivalry because, one, Clark never had a rift with JO, and that too, over a girl, no way!! Secondly, I think Clark will realize that his feelings were a spur of moment, and in this case, even if Chloe had responded to Clark, she would once again end up getting hurt!!

It is a good thing they have showed her growing up and moving on.

[Spirit Detective]

Originally posted by Farm_Girl
IMHO:

Clark tried to hook up with Chloe in Tempest, when he didn’t see any future with Lana. But with a slightest glimpse of hope, he left Chloe in the middle.

In S5, his hopes of being with Lana are finally over, and he is single now, so Chloe's kiss was an opening for him. He trusts her and she is her best friend, so he thought, why not, give it a shot!

When he brings up the kiss, he expects Chloe to fully respond and pine for him like she always does, but the result.. TOTALLY UNEXPECTED for Clark!!

So definitely he is shocked to see Jimmy and to learn the fact that Chloe can prefer someone else over him. For Clark, Chloe is his best friend and the one who is always there when he “needs” her. Finding out that she has someone special in her life too, definitely made him jealous for a moment.

However, I don’t think that’ll develop into some serious rivalry because, one, Clark never had a rift with JO, and that too, over a girl, no way!! Secondly, I think Clark will realize that his feelings were a spur of moment, and in this case, even if Chloe had responded to Clark, she would once again end up getting hurt!!

It is a good thing they have showed her growing up and moving on.

Spur of the moment sounds good. Especially after he escaped the Zone. Seeing Chloe's face again after witnessing Phantoms must have caused him to react differently.

[cotton candy girl]

Originally posted by MBCorp
IMO the Jimmy/Chloe/Clark scene was such a blatant setup though that I just can't write it off.

I'm not ready to say that yet, but maybe it's the hope in me that Clark and Chloe will never date. I'm sorry if to some that sounds mean (not trying to be mean), but I see no reason for Clark and Chloe to date. It seems superfluous for him to date all the female leads on Smallville. He has other things to do like prepare himself to save the world. I'm not saying that he'll definitely date Lois on Smallville (but we know he'll marry her one day), but I only think he should date Chloe if Chlois is going to happen because otherwise it's excessive, imo.

[Khyla]

Originally posted by lastdaughterofkrypton
The only thing that I want to happen is that Chloe can be the insensitve one this time talking to Clark about her relationship with Jimmy... take that Alien Boy! :D OOOO! Do u think that she might tell Clark that Jimmy's the guy she lost her virginity to? I'd love to see that! :eek:

[lastdaughterofkrypton]

Originally posted by Khyla
OOOO! Do u think that she might tell Clark that Jimmy's the guy she lost her virginity to? I'd love to see that! :eek:

Who knows the way they are chating in wither made them looks like discussing something very intimate and Jimmy interrupted them maybe she is asking Clark if she and Jimmy should have a full relationship ;)
I like the way Clark look at Chloe at the couch I think the time passed may have make him feel more certain about the how he feels about her and Jimmy gets in the way again. :lol:

[Kal-El 2005]

OMG OMG OMG! I just saw the episode, my cable was out and my firend taped it for me.... I can't believe it.. I wanted to die!! He finally wanted her :'( why oh why God!? I started bawling like a little baby.... why can't they give them a break and let them hook up already... even if its just for a little bit. Tis a sad time for Chlark fans :( I don't think it was her moving on though.. I think she thought Clark was bringing the kiss up to make sure there was nothing there so she backed out quickly.... what a time to be wrong!!!!!!!!!!!!
Maybe it wasn't a rebound... he realised she's stuck with him through thick and thin and just being through such a life changing experience he just had an epiphany and best he'd give her it a shot.... remebering the kiss and him going off was such a lovely moment...
Why is she even still on good terms with Jimmy!
I loved how she asked clark to play 3rd wheel though and the awkward moment clark had that followed... serves him right a bit too for taking so damn long!
I hope from here it doesn't happen in the normal crappy smallville way (ie he forgets about it like nothing ever happened by next episode.) They should atleast continue it a little for the show's sake until we know where they both stand... I hope he pursues her in the following episodes... although it being Smallville I highly doubt it will happen.
Come on Clark time to break out the Shakespeare! Woo her godammit!

[AM4lois]

Originally posted by Spirit Detective
Does anyone get the feeling that Clark was going to hook up with Chloe if Jimmy never appeared? It's weird because Chloe has always wanted Clark and now Clark feels the same way about her. Why she chose Jimmy is beyond me, especially after that kiss in Vessel.

Yes, and this is exactly why they brought Jimmy on the picture: "let's hold Chlark a little longer, because after the Vessel kiss was kinda inevitable, so who can we bring to delay the inevitable? We can flash the Lana card, but this is getting old and he's supposed to be geting over Lana by now, so what can we do about Chloe? Well, that's tough because she's in love with him from day one and until now, so what can we do with her? Maybe bring back someone from her past: that's right, Jimmy Olsen (he is the ONLY guy that could get in between Chlark, anyone else wouldn't be believable...), and with that we also get as bonus: a male friend to Clark and another important caracther from the mythos... :D Yey!! So, it's good all around... Clark can have his "moving on from Lana"-time and also his "I'm starting to have feelings for Chloe"-time, he gets jealous over Chimmy, realises Chloe is the one for him all along, shows his feelings, Chimmy doesn't work out, because let's face it, Chloe may try to move on, but Clark is the love of her life and if she realises he's interested, she would go for it, and we have Chlark by the end of the season...

*sighs...* I do believe this is the fourth time I've written all of that... Is a very tiresome thing... :D

The triangle is set, now all we have to do is watch... :D

[DorothyFan1]

Originally posted by EllenF
Grin. I'm not agonizing, personally. The show has at least one season left, and possibly two, and I would hardly have expected them to resolve *any* romance at this point. I've said it before and I'll say it again: No conflict, no plot. Happy characters are boring characters. Especially on "Smallville," where the writers don't know how to write happy characters.

I'm not at all upset by "Chloe dumping on Clark." Now if Clark had been the one to say, "Sorry, not interested," that would have likely spelled the end of Chlark. But he didn't, and he was clearly VERY happy to see her (<<<-----). And Chloe was the one to reject *him*. That's a reversal, and that happens in shows and movies with a romantic element *all the time*. Now Clark gets to pine for Chloe (although hopefully not to excess-- we've seen quite enough of MopeyClark, thank you). It's a typical romance setup, and pretty much what most of us were expecting, honestly. And it was almost necessary-- the man has ignored her for several years now, and if she just jumped for him the minute he looked in her direction, it would come across as kind of pitiful.

And I've said this elsewhere, but I'll say it here, too: IMO, the Clark/Chloe/Jimmy scene wasn't a resolution. It was a setup for the rest of the season.

Long time no see, EllenF. Haven't seen you post in quite a while. :) It's probably me. I haven't been paying that much attention to Kryptonsite...after all...I've been engrossed with the adventures of Chloe's long lost sister Veronica Mars. Catching up on those DVD sets has kept me busy.

I think that may be the best way to enjoy a series. Resist watching streaming videos on Youtube, etc and just waiting for those DVD sets. You can quietly catch up without "distractions".

In any case, I think (my opinion) that ED has been applying pressure to Al/Miles on the Lois Lane score and it's beginning to pay off. I don't think it's a coincidence that you have that huge scene in Vessel suddenly blown off by Chloe...for no apparent reason. Sparing herself the pain by beating Clark to the punch? C'mon. Chloe is far more mature than that and she can definitely "take it" on the chin when the need arises.

This would have been an excellent opportunity to show a little Chlark romance. No dice. Al/Miles kicked it to the curb.

[Farm_Girl]

All those who have seen the show and are aware of the mythos, knew from S1 that Lana and Chloe are both his highschool friends and that Lois Lane will finally be the one he'll love and marry.

As long as Lois's character wasn't introduced, the Lana/Clark/Chloe triangle was interesting, but since she has already been introduced and established as a regular, I don't see a point in shipper fights any more, Lois has to gradually become the main character in this story, like she is in the comics.

They can go around and even show a little Clark/Chloe action just to make the shippers happy, but ultimately, the course to Clark/Lois will be taken.


Originally posted by DorothyFan1 In any case, I think (my opinion) that ED has been applying pressure to Al/Miles on the Lois Lane score and it's beginning to pay off.

My God!! you are actually saying that ED has "pressurised" the producers to enhance her role in the series.. Isn't it taking it a bit too far? I don't think such serious actor bashing is healthy for the show itself...

Have you read/seen this somewhere that ED did this? Can you provide me the link or the name of the magazine/newspaper/show you read/watched it on?

I am a die hard ED fan but don't go this far and say something like this for AM.. No way!!

[MartaDolo]

I don't see a point in shipper fights any more, Lois has to gradually become the main character in this story, like she is in the comics.

Like it or not, she's not a main character on Smallville. There's a reason she's been largely kept away from the show's main themes and storylines for two seasons, and it's because she's not supposed to be a part of this story. She's for later. That's why the most consistent trait for her thus far has been the anvils regarding her future.

I understand wanting the end game for Lois and Clois, but when it comes to the actual run of the series she'll remain a supporting player.


Have you read/seen this somewhere that ED did this? Can you provide me the link or the name of the magazine/newspaper/show you read/watched it on?

Don't worry, I sincerely doubt this is true. And even if ED did try to "pressure" AlMiles into giving her a more important role, who on Earth thinks they'd listen to her? They're the show runners, they're not going to cater to the actors' wishes. They'll do what they want to do.

[Farm_Girl]

Originally posted by MartaDolo
Like it or not, she's not a main character on Smallville. There's a reason she's been largely kept away from the show's main themes and storylines for two seasons, and it's because she's not supposed to be a part of this story. She's for later. That's why the most consistent trait for her thus far has been the anvils regarding her future.

I understand wanting the end game for Lois and Clois, but when it comes to the actual run of the series she'll remain a supporting player.



Don't worry, I sincerely doubt this is true. And even if ED did try to "pressure" AlMiles into giving her a more important role, who on Earth thinks they'd listen to her? They're the show runners, they're not going to cater to the actors' wishes. They'll do what they want to do.

One: Agreed. ED has never been the main character on the show. She was introduced in the fourth season, one wouldn't even expect her Lois to suddenly be in the front seat.

Reason: In mythos, Lois is never in Clark's Smallville life, she meets her in Metropolis. But then, since when was Lex Clark's best friend in Smallville either? Like Lex, Lois is also introduced at an earlier stage, that is all, that doesn't still change the fact that she is the future woman in Clark's life, if she is there, then her relationship with Clark should move in that direction...

TWO: About ED bashing!! Without doubt it is untrue. But I was only hurt to see that fans go to the lenght of saying things like that for an actor just because they don't like the character he/she is playing!!

As fans, we can all have our point of views and differences on how the story progresses but to say things like this for actors is disturbing and unhealthy atleast in my opinion..

[shy175223]

Originally posted by Farm_Girl
Lois is never in Clark's Smallville life, she meets her in Metropolis. But then, since when was Lex Clark's best friend in Smallville either? Like Lex, Lois is also introduced at an earlier stage, that is all, that doesn't still change the fact that she is the future woman in Clark's life, if she is there, then her relationship with Clark should move in that direction..

sure, but I don' think it should/will happen in SV but like Marta Dolo, has stated this SV not Metrpolois and right now at this stage is the Clex trianlge so to speak and since ED is only slated for 13 episodes, Lana is stll the main lady of the show . As for the Clois relationship, If the relationship DOES go in THAT direction, than it would be Clark that has those feelings, never Lois since Lois falls for Superman first. But I think he will fall for her when the series ends and not before hopefully.

And also there were some comic books that have Lex and Clark as boyhood chums in the pre-crisis era.


Originally posted by MartaDolo
Like it or not, she's not a main character on Smallville. There's a reason she's been largely kept away from the show's main themes and storylines for two seasons, and it's because she's not supposed to be a part of this story. She's for later. That's why the most consistent trait for her thus far has been the anvils regarding her future.

I understand wanting the end game for Lois and Clois, but when it comes to the actual run of the series she'll remain a supporting player.

Right, exaclty, If the show was called 'Metropolis', Lois would definitley be the main lady. And she would have alot more episodes.

[Farm_Girl]

I am not even debating on whether Lois should become the 'main player' so to speak. Just this, Clark's love life should stop revolving around Lana and gradually move towards Lois.

The other issue, is offcourse directly bashing ED which is not a good thing to do at all!! Not good to say things like this for any actor for that matter..

[shy175223]

Originally posted by DorothyFan1

This would have been an excellent opportunity to show a little Chlark romance. No dice. Al/Miles kicked it to the curb.

I think you right about that. AM did say that Chloe wasn't waiting anymore and she is moving on.


Originally posted by Farm_Girl
I am not even debating on whether Lois should become the 'main player' so to speak. Just this, Clark's love life should stop revolving around Lana and gradually move towards Lois.

I think he will gradually move to Lois, he will probably have those feelings by the end of series since it is so close to him finally reaching his destiny.


The other issue, is offcourse directly bashing ED which is not a good thing to do at all!! Not good to say things like this for any actor for that matter..

Hey, can't argue with you there. I kinda like ED myself.

[D.M.A.]

Originally posted by shy175223
I think you right about that. AM did say that Chloe wasn't waiting anymore and she is moving on.
Well to be fair AM didn't say she would move on just that chloe might not wait around this season and we kno she'll date jimmy.The thing now is clark obviously had feelings and whether or not he decides to tell her any this season is up to tptb.Even Am laughed and said she thinks she knows why they always slide in a kiss,which imo means even if they don't go full chlark they may share another this season.Which imo can't be avoided as far as a relationship goes if she is involved.But I do think the possibility is there more now than ever after the premiere.She'll try to move on but only because she thinks clark isn't interested and jimmy is.The tension between clark/jimmy will speak volumes to her over the season,if she ever picks up on clark's reactions maybe she'll have to choose between the 2,who knows.But I think sum anti r jumpin too far ahead and sayin she's moved on already when that's not set in stone yet.

[shy175223]

Originally posted by D.M.A.
Well to be fair AM didn't say she would move on just that chloe might not wait around this season and we kno she'll date jimmy..

sept/oct issue SMALLVILLE MAG

Column : RIGHT HERE WAITING?

" Chloe is not over him. She wouldn't be spending so much time with him If she was. She is just tired of waiting for him '

She didn't say this season or next season, just that she IS tired of waiting for him. Meaning that she has moved on to Jimmy. :D

to be fair of coarse.

[D.M.A.]

Originally posted by shy175223
sept/oct issue SMALLVILLE MAG

Column : RIGHT HERE WAITING?

" Chloe is not over him. She wouldn't be spending so much time with him If she was. She is just tired of waiting for him '

She didn't say this season or next season, just that she IS tired of waiting for him. Meaning that she has moved on to Jimmy. :D

to be fair of coarse.
well she says she is tired of waitin on him yes and we knew she would date jimmy,but to say she's moved on after 1 episode come on.She doesn't even know what clark was goin to say,u mean to tell me that if he would have spoken up that she would have shot him down like she did.What I'm sayin is sum r so against it/givin excuses over the yrs that he's never shown interest now that he has they r like o she's moved on.But I can't see that,atleast not now.Now if they go the whole season without anymore chlark avils like in the premiere/she still is wit jimmy then maybe but not yet.Ur sayin she's moved on not tryin to move on and that's what AM says is that she's not over him she's just tired of waitin.Which imo means that she doesn't kno clark likes her so she's stickin around cause she luvs him but she's goin to date the one that does show he likes her(Which is jimmy).That's tryin to move on not actually movin,that's what I'm sayin...Sum anti r so against it that they don't wanna admit that chlark even shared a moment/has potential.I don't kno if tptb will go that route late in the season but if not atleast give chlimmy a chance first.So yea she said she's tired of waitin on him but also says she's not over him meanin she hasn't moved yet.Just tryin ya kno to be fair :D

Don't worry shy ur Lori still may come :D ,but for now chlark or atleast a triangle looks to be in the works sumway(Maybe not strong like clexana was but sumway)

[RamonaE]

Originally posted by All about Clark
I prefer to be pleased by both. Clois is way behind Chlark for now. By end of the season there will be Chlark and by end of season 7 there will be Clois. I'm going to enjoy the ride TPTB are taking me with both girls.

I think that's a good way to look at it.


Originally posted by Spirit Detective
Does anyone get the feeling that Clark was going to hook up with Chloe if Jimmy never appeared? It's weird because Chloe has always wanted Clark and now Clark feels the same way about her. Why she chose Jimmy is beyond me, especially after that kiss in Vessel.

I won't be as brash to say that Chloe is over Clark but I think that Chloe has, in some aspect, given up on the idea of them being together. After all the years as friends and the Clana years, perhaps she didn't want to trust in just a fleeting moment. B/c even if they shared a moment or two together, she may not know where Clark stands. Heck, we the audience don't know exactly where Clark stands.

Clark will have to give Chloe more than a few long looks to indicate his interest. I don't think Chloe wants to read anything into it. She's made that mistake before.

There's another issue we may not be considering. The Lana factor. Lana and Chloe are still best friends. Chloe may not want to go there with Clark right now until things simmer down. The vessel kiss was, in her mind, brought on b/c the world was ending.


Originally posted by cotton candy girl
I'm not ready to say that yet, but maybe it's the hope in me that Clark and Chloe will never date. I'm sorry if to some that sounds mean (not trying to be mean), but I see no reason for Clark and Chloe to date. It seems superfluous for him to date all the female leads on Smallville. He has other things to do like prepare himself to save the world. I'm not saying that he'll definitely date Lois on Smallville (but we know he'll marry her one day), but I only think he should date Chloe if Chlois is going to happen because otherwise it's excessive, imo.

I think I would agree with that in most circumstances. I hate Melrose Place-like shows. But I think in this show, romance takes such a long freaking time to come to fruition. That I'm open to Chlark.

Not just b/c I like Chloe (although I do like her a lot) but b/c I have felt so unsatisfied with the romance and resolution of Clana (which was my favorite ship until recently).


Originally posted by DorothyFan1

This would have been an excellent opportunity to show a little Chlark romance. No dice. Al/Miles kicked it to the curb.

I highly doubt it has been kicked to the curb, if just for the sake of keeping people in suspense.

I agree with MBCorp. It was a classic tv drama setup. It was in no way kicked to the curb. TPTB have a tendency to draw things out, Chlark will be no exception.


Originally posted by Farm_Girl


I am a die hard ED fan but don't go this far and say something like this for AM.. No way!!

DorthyFan is a die-hard ED fan too.


Originally posted by Farm_Girl
One: Reason: In mythos, Lois is never in Clark's Smallville life, she meets her in Metropolis. But then, since when was Lex Clark's best friend in Smallville either?



Actually from what I remember of the comics Lex did live in Smallville at some point. I don't know if it was an elseworld or if it was in Superboy.

[chlarkfan333]

It's truly baffling how any reasonable individual could observe the Chlark scene (assuming no bias) and infer that Chlark is officially over. I can see how from the scene one might infer that Chloe's decided to move on, but Clark's expression really left things open. No way does a person react like that if he/she were satisfied/relieved with 'friend' status.

Now, I think what we're going to see over the next few episodes is a friendly Chlark with a few hints dropped here and there pertaining to Clark-Jimmy-Chloe. Do I think this means there will eventually be Chlark? I honestly don't know, never have, and it seems that's the way TPTB like it. AM even said they like to yank our chains (to paraphrase).

At the same time, I think we will see major Clois foreshadowing.

In a sense Chlark will be paralleling Clois similar to Chlois paralleling EDLois.

[RamonaE]

Originally posted by shy175223


Hey, can't argue with you there. I kinda like ED myself.

Dorthy Fan was not bashing ED. Farmgirl misinterpreted her. Dorthy is a big ED-Lois fan and not an AM fan.

[lastdaughterofkrypton]

Originally posted by chlarkfan333
It's truly baffling how any reasonable individual could observe the Chlark scene (assuming no bias) and infer that Chlark is officially over. I can see how from the scene one might infer that Chloe's decided to move on, but Clark's expression really left things open. No way does a person react like that if he/she were satisfied/relieved with 'friend' status.

I will like to add that Clark kept embracing Chloe when asking about the kiss a typical uninterested Clark would had let her go ASAP and probably put his hands in his pockets, he talked to her in a matter that will be easier to kiss her if the Jimmy factor wouldn't had walked in...and I imagine that Clark wanted to make sure if she was in the same page than him was, we must remember that Chloe keeps his sad looks for herself and EDlois so he is not that aware of her strong feelings so is only natural that things got interrupted the way they were.


Now, I think what we're going to see over the next few episodes is a friendly Chlark with a few hints dropped here and there pertaining to Clark-Jimmy-Chloe. Do I think this means there will eventually be Chlark? I honestly don't know, never have, and it seems that's the way TPTB like it. AM even said they like to yank our chains (to paraphrase).

Like I posted before Chlark is a gun waiting to be fired and it will or she will die for him :(


At the same time, I think we will see major Clois foreshadowing.

I think we going to need a bottle of aspirins because we will have twice the anvils this season I just hope the alternate them and don't do it in the same episode like this time because that might be way too much...


In a sense Chlark will be paralleling Clois similar to Chlois paralleling EDLois..

As a Chloiser I think we are going to see why ILL was so unwilling to give a chance in love to Clark is not because she thinks he is inferior to her but because she knows for sure he is a BDA ;)
I mean after all the hurt she has gone trough I'm sure he is going to need to move the earth backwards to convince her that he wouldn't go back running to Lana as soon she stomps her tiny foot.

[khufu]

A few random points to add...

1) Chloe did NOT "shoot Clark down", because Clark never explicitely stated that he wanted anything. Rather, he said "there was this moment...." and then he just stared at her nervously hoping that she would do all the hard work. Obviously, he DID want something to happen between them, but he didn't have the balls to actually come out and say it. So really, he wasn't brave enough to put himself out there, and instead was hoping that Chloe would. And it was in this moment of ambiguity that Chloe took control and determined which direction it would go. But Clark wasn't brave enough to protest, and he just went alone with it unwillingly (which of course will bite him on the ass when he sees her dating Jimmy).

2) I'm niether upset nor suprised by the way this turned out, since I predicted after Vessel that it would go down exactly like it did. From one of my earlier posts...
Posted by khufu long, long ago...

Season 6 will begin by addressing the Vessel kiss, they (mostly Chloe) will decide that it was heat of the moment, and to just remain friends. However, despite this agreement, we will see the beginning of Clark's romantic feelings for Chloe. For this first time [in a long time] he will start to see her as more than just a friend. But... it's too late Clark, because half way through season 6 she will get a boyfriend. Of course, this magnifies Clark's desire for her. In the meantime, Clark will be without a girlfriend for the season (good) and they can focus on his (long overdue) character development. They may revisit Clana, but not romanticly, more for closure as there are many unresolved issues there. Season 6 ends with the 6th annual kiss, and sets up the final Chlois transition in season 7.Which is exactly how it looks to be going down now (ignore the Chlois part, that was from a different debate). As for Clark's developing feelings for Chloe and being jealous of Jimmy...

Posted by khufu long, long ago...

I think this is where Jimmy comes in. But first let me lay a little background.... I just watched Oracle/Vessel again tonight, and the "Harley" comment really stood out this time. When Oracle first aired, we did not yet know about the upcoming Vessel kiss. And so at the time, we were debating whether or not it was referring to EDLois or Chloe. BUT... having seen Vessel - and realizing that TPTB already knew the Vessel kiss would happen in the very next episode at the time they wrote the Harley line - there is no doubt that it was meant to refer to Chloe. What's interesting though, is that there was obviously something about that comment that really struck a cord with Clark - as if Lois had just hit the nail on the head. His reaction is undeniably that of a lightbulb going off! So what was it that he suddenly realized? Those two facts lead me to believe that Clark had already started to reexamine his feelings towards Chloe before that kiss even took place. In which case, his embracing her and reciprocating the kiss makes perfect sense. And in this light, the look on his face afterwards also makes perfect sense. He sees now what has been in front of him the entire time (insert Fever letter here).

So.... Clark will no doubt come back with Chloe on his mind. But now this darned Jimmy fellow is going to be in the way, and this will worry Clark a bit, thereby serving as kindling to ignite the "pining for AMLois" that heretofore has been missing.So really, "Zod" just confirmed to me that I was right on several things about this situation: how Clark would interpret the Vessel kiss; what he was really thinking after the "Harley" line; and how Chloe would respond to it all. And all of it is VERY GOOD for Chlark in the next 2 seasons. And one last interesting quote from Allison Mack that I also think is great for Chlark....

TVGuide.com: Let's talk about The Kiss, the scorching lip-lock Chloe planted on Clark in the season finale. Do they talk about it as the new season begins [on Sept. 28]?
Allison Mack: It's mentioned in the first episode, but Chloe is pretty determined to not be in a relationship with Clark right now, just because of the dynamic of their friendship. If they tried to mix romance in with all of the other heaviness that they have going on in their relationship, it wouldn't be sustainable.So, if Clois is the real relationship on this show, then why does it matter that Chlark would not be sustainable? In fact, if Chlark was not meant to be anything special, then I would think that TPTB would intentionally set it up to fail! It gives them an easy "out" - a way to finish the series with the "real" relationship, Clois. But NO, they have taken a route that allows for a Chlark romance that is more believable, more anticipated, and more sustainable in the long run!!! With only 2 years remaining, and Chlark looking to be setup throughout this year and set to bloom in the beginning of the last year of the series, where is there room for Clois? There isn't! Good things come to those who wait, and based on the last 5 years of buildup for Chlark, the momentous epiphany that Clark has recently had in Oracle/Vessel/Zod, and the remaining timeline, it looks like Chlark will be thee romance of the series. So I don't think Chlark got crapped on - don't be fooled by the hospital scene, that was Clark caring for a friend who clearly misinterpreted his intentions (...again). And don't be fooled by Chloe's having brushed it off, because it sets up the relationship to be something much stronger than it could have been if they had just jumped right into it.

[RamonaE]

Originally posted by khufu
Season 6 will begin by addressing the Vessel kiss, they (mostly Chloe) will decide that it was heat of the moment, and to just remain friends. However, despite this agreement, we will see the beginning of Clark's romantic feelings for Chloe. For this first time [in a long time] he will start to see her as more than just a friend. But... it's too late Clark, because half way through season 6 she will get a boyfriend. Of course, this magnifies Clark's desire for her. In the meantime, Clark will be without a girlfriend for the season (good) and they can focus on his (long overdue) character development. They may revisit Clana, but not romanticly, more for closure as there are many unresolved issues there. Season 6 ends with the 6th annual kiss, and sets up the final Chlois transition in season 7.

I agree with this part. I think we will see jealous Clark and the culmination of Chloe and Jimmy. At the same time I think we will have closure with Clark & Lana. I totally agree that the scene with Chloe/Jimmy/Clark was a setup for future endeavors btw Clark & Chloe. Whether or not the PTB will act on it, is a different story.

[chlarkfan333]

khufu you were right - Clark's the one feeling awkward. :D I stand corrected!

[EllenF]

In any case, I think (my opinion) that ED has been applying pressure to Al/Miles on the Lois Lane score and it's beginning to pay off.

I agree, this doesn't seem at all likely. I don't think this statement was intended as bashing of the actress, just the opinion that she's been trying to get the producers to give her more to do. But I honestly doubt a supporting actress who's only in a few more than half the episodes in any given season has this kind of clout. The star of the show could possibly put some pressure on the producers. Supporting actors-- not so much. They could always just send her character off to school and out of the show if they wanted to. So if Al/Miles are changing direction (and I don't know that this is the case), it's either because they want to, or because the *network* is pressuring them. The actors probably have nothing whatsoever to do with it.


Rather, he said "there was this moment...." and then he just stared at her nervously hoping that she would do all the hard work. Obviously, he DID want something to happen between them, but he didn't have the balls to actually come out and say it. So really, he wasn't brave enough to put himself out there, and instead was hoping that Chloe would.

And honestly, this is an area in which we need to see Clark grow. Chloe put herself out there by kissing him. We need to see Clark really grab hold of his romantic life (not necessarily with Chloe-- even if he decides to go with EDLois, he still needs to show some nerve). Stumbling lamely into a relationship with Chloe won't do it. He needs to really KNOW what he wants. I don't think the character has evolved to that point yet, hence the delay in resolving the whole issue.


In fact, if Chlark was not meant to be anything special, then I would think that TPTB would intentionally set it up to fail! It gives them an easy "out" - a way to finish the series with the "real" relationship, Clois. But NO, they have taken a route that allows for a Chlark romance that is more believable, more anticipated, and more sustainable in the long run!!!

I think this is a good point. If they really wanted to resolve Chlark, it'd be easy enough to do-- have them date, have them discover they really don't feel that way about one another, and have the relationship end amicably. Instead they keep dragging it out and never really resolving it. Why? Maybe they're just trying to keep the audience happy by never resolving anything, but I'm not sure how much longer they can keep juggling and keeping all their balls in the air that way. Sooner or later they have to decide what they're doing, and it seems like this would have been a perfect time to go forward with romantic Chlark and then dispense with it, if that's really what they wanted to do.


With only 2 years remaining, and Chlark looking to be setup throughout this year and set to bloom in the beginning of the last year of the series, where is there room for Clois?

I honestly don't know at this point if they're going to wrap up the show with Chlark or Clois, or even if THEY know. But they really need to make a decision soon. Because they *are* running out of time to believably set up Clois.

[chlarkfan333]

Chlarkers who haven't done so already may want to check out the Chloe/Clark pic thread under Smallville Relationships/Characters for some Chlark pics from 'Wither.'

[cotton candy girl]

Originally posted by khufu
if Chlark was not meant to be anything special, then I would think that TPTB would intentionally set it up to fail! It gives them an easy "out" - a way to finish the series with the "real" relationship, Clois. But NO, they have taken a route that allows for a Chlark romance that is more believable, more anticipated, and more sustainable in the long run!!! With only 2 years remaining, and Chlark looking to be setup throughout this year and set to bloom in the beginning of the last year of the series, where is there room for Clois? There isn't! Good things come to those who wait, and based on the last 5 years of buildup for Chlark, the momentous epiphany that Clark has recently had in Oracle/Vessel/Zod, and the remaining timeline, it looks like Chlark will be thee romance of the series. So I don't think Chlark got crapped on - don't be fooled by the hospital scene, that was Clark caring for a friend who clearly misinterpreted his intentions (...again). And don't be fooled by Chloe's having brushed it off, because it sets up the relationship to be something much stronger than it could have been if they had just jumped right into it.


I think the only way Chlark would be the relationship of the series is if Chlois happens, because if Chlois doesn't happen, it would just be weird for Clark to date Chloe and them be happily ever after and then date and marry Lois if the future. I think if Clark were to date Chloe, something bad would happen to her to move her out of the way somehow. Nevertheless, I really don't think TPTB care so much about Chlark. Do they care about keeping all kinds of shippers tuned in? Yes. But let's face it, Al/ Miles don't seem to be able to write their way out of a paper bag when it comes to romance. How are they possibly setting up this beautiful, wonderful Chlark romance when their storytelling abilities seem to fall short so often?

[RamonaE]

Originally posted by cotton candy girl
I think the only way Chlark would be the relationship of the series is if Chlois happens, because if Chlois doesn't happen, it would just be weird for Clark to date Chloe and them be happily ever after and then date and marry Lois if the future. I think if Clark were to date Chloe, something bad would happen to her to move her out of the way somehow. Nevertheless, I really don't think TPTB care so much about Chlark. Do they care about keeping all kinds of shippers tuned in? Yes. But let's face it, Al/ Miles don't seem to be able to write their way out of a paper bag when it comes to romance. How are they possibly setting up this beautiful, wonderful Chlark romance when their storytelling abilities seem to fall short so often?

I agree that the PTB can't write their way out of a paper bag. The way that they handled Clana is indicative of that.

However, I don't think Chlark would hurt the show. If anything I think it would tie up loose ends. Even MB Corp, your fellow anti-Chlarker, agreed that they seemed to have created a classic tv-drama setup for Chlark with the Jimmy/Chloe/Clark scene.

But you are correct the PTB don't know how to handle romance correctly and they will probably just muck it up.

[cotton candy girl]

I'm not saying Clark won't date Chloe. I'm saying that if he does, something bad will probably happen to her unless she becomes Lois. :\ So I don't expect some beautiful, wonderfully set-up romance, ya know.

[RamonaE]

Originally posted by cotton candy girl
I'm not saying Clark won't date Chloe. I'm saying that if he does, something bad will probably happen to her unless she becomes Lois. :\

Oh, yeah. I totally agree with you there. Chloe is a non-canonical character. After Clark surpasses Smallville, there is no need for her character to exist.

I will probably have to turn in my Chlarker card after this one.

[cotton candy girl]

Originally posted by RamonaE
Oh, yeah. I totally agree with you there. Chloe is a non-canonical character. After Clark surpasses Smallville, there is no need for her character to exist.

I will probably have to turn in my Chlarker card after this one.

Nah, you have a right to your opinion. I don't think the Chlarker club will kick you out. But if they do, there's always room in the Anti-Chlark club. :D :p

[RamonaE]

Originally posted by cotton candy girl
Nah, you have a right to your opinion. I don't think the Chlarker club will kick you out. But if they do, there's always room in the Anti-Chlark club. :D :p

Now, I'm really out of the club. :rotfl:

[cotton candy girl]

:lol:

[khufu]

Originally posted by cotton candy girl
I think the only way Chlark would be the relationship of the series is if Chlois happens, because if Chlois doesn't happen, it would just be weird for Clark to date Chloe and them be happily ever after and then date and marry Lois if the future.You might be right. But that's a discussion for a different thread ;) Although, hypothetically speaking, IF that was the case, then it certainly makes sense that Chlark would be the climactic relationship of the series and would come near the end.


I think if Clark were to date Chloe, something bad would happen to her to move her out of the way somehow. Nevertheless, I really don't think TPTB care so much about Chlark. Do they care about keeping all kinds of shippers tuned in? Yes. But let's face it, Al/ Miles don't seem to be able to write their way out of a paper bag when it comes to romance. How are they possibly setting up this beautiful, wonderful Chlark romance when their storytelling abilities seem to fall short so often? I agree with you about them not being the best romance writers, and I'm guessing they probabaly would admit that themselves. But there are two factors at play here. The first being that Al/Miles really don't do much writing anymore, and the second is that even if he though the writing crew, in general, was incapable of writing good romance, then that's all the more reason to have the relationship that you care about the most come at the end of the series, when there's not much left to write. It's the Moonlighting principle, where once the "one true pairing" gets together it becomes increasingly difficult to write compelling stories.

[Kal-El 2005]

Originally posted by khufu
[/B]
So, if Clois is the real relationship on this show, then why does it matter that Chlark would not be sustainable? In fact, if Chlark was not meant to be anything special, then I would think that TPTB would intentionally set it up to fail! It gives them an easy "out" - a way to finish the series with the "real" relationship, Clois. But NO, they have taken a route that allows for a Chlark romance that is more believable, more anticipated, and more sustainable in the long run!!! With only 2 years remaining, and Chlark looking to be setup throughout this year and set to bloom in the beginning of the last year of the series, where is there room for Clois? There isn't! Good things come to those who wait, and based on the last 5 years of buildup for Chlark, the momentous epiphany that Clark has recently had in Oracle/Vessel/Zod, and the remaining timeline, it looks like Chlark will be thee romance of the series. So I don't think Chlark got crapped on - don't be fooled by the hospital scene, that was Clark caring for a friend who clearly misinterpreted his intentions (...again). And don't be fooled by Chloe's having brushed it off, because it sets up the relationship to be something much stronger than it could have been if they had just jumped right into it. [/B]

Well said.. the wisdom of some the fans amazes me sometimes..
I can almost cry of joy when i hear such things, it gives me hope... I hope it works out for them it would be perfect... ever since the end of season one I've been hoping more than anything... I don't think I've ever been as involved into a tv series as I've been into this one lol :D

[Joe Bob]

There were some romantic vibes going on btw Chloe & Clark in that scene period.

I'm sorry to the anti-Chlarkers to agree with the Chlarkers but it was so obvious. The way Clark looked at Chloe the whole time told me that he was interested in her. I don't look at girls like that I'm not interested in.

Whether or not Chloe will reciprocate is another story. She looks like she'll have her hands full with JO. But from the way that scene was setup, it looks like jealous Clark will come out to play.

[D.M.A.]

Originally posted by khufu
A few random points to add...

1) Chloe did NOT "shoot Clark down", because Clark never explicitely stated that he wanted anything. Rather, he said "there was this moment...." and then he just stared at her nervously hoping that she would do all the hard work. Obviously, he DID want something to happen between them, but he didn't have the balls to actually come out and say it. So really, he wasn't brave enough to put himself out there, and instead was hoping that Chloe would. And it was in this moment of ambiguity that Chloe took control and determined which direction it would go. But Clark wasn't brave enough to protest, and he just went alone with it unwillingly (which of course will bite him on the ass when he sees her dating Jimmy).

2) I'm niether upset nor suprised by the way this turned out, since I predicted after Vessel that it would go down exactly like it did. From one of my earlier posts...Which is exactly how it looks to be going down now (ignore the Chlois part, that was from a different debate). As for Clark's developing feelings for Chloe and being jealous of Jimmy...
So really, "Zod" just confirmed to me that I was right on several things about this situation: how Clark would interpret the Vessel kiss; what he was really thinking after the "Harley" line; and how Chloe would respond to it all. And all of it is VERY GOOD for Chlark in the next 2 seasons. And one last interesting quote from Allison Mack that I also think is great for Chlark....
[/i]So, if Clois is the real relationship on this show, then why does it matter that Chlark would not be sustainable? In fact, if Chlark was not meant to be anything special, then I would think that TPTB would intentionally set it up to fail! It gives them an easy "out" - a way to finish the series with the "real" relationship, Clois. But NO, they have taken a route that allows for a Chlark romance that is more believable, more anticipated, and more sustainable in the long run!!! With only 2 years remaining, and Chlark looking to be setup throughout this year and set to bloom in the beginning of the last year of the series, where is there room for Clois? There isn't! Good things come to those who wait, and based on the last 5 years of buildup for Chlark, the momentous epiphany that Clark has recently had in Oracle/Vessel/Zod, and the remaining timeline, it looks like Chlark will be thee romance of the series. So I don't think Chlark got crapped on - don't be fooled by the hospital scene, that was Clark caring for a friend who clearly misinterpreted his intentions (...again). And don't be fooled by Chloe's having brushed it off, because it sets up the relationship to be something much stronger than it could have been if they had just jumped right into it.
hha khufu bout time u spoke on this topic,now that we've seen the full scene from that promo.good theory tho,I can see why u'd think that,don't kno how I quite feel yet about chlois but chlark I'm wit u all the way.If the premiere wasn't the perfect setup I don't kno what was.Plus I stated my theory months ago back wit the finale aired yet,and I see from ur post u stated one too.Seems as tho those r sumwhat comin true,but we'll see tho


Originally posted by RamonaE
Now, I'm really out of the club. :rotfl:
naw we not lettin u leave the chlark side that easy :D ,once ur in its for life haha :lol: naw just kiddin

[Rosey]

The Chlark side is the right side. :D

We want the Chlark. :)

[Krypto/DQ/]

Originally posted by Rosey
The Chlark side is the right side. :D

We want the Chlark. :)

AMEN. :p

[Cat_Atak]

Originally posted by sstray72
Hmm. Maybe the next episode will have Clark talk to Lex in the cave and Lex will ask Clark if being a third wheel is time consuming? :lol: :lol:

[lastdaughterofkrypton]

Ha ha ha :lol:

[BeldarofRemulak]

Originally posted by Rosey
The Chlark side is the right side. :D

We want the Chlark. :)

I second that Rosey!!!!:D :D

[InLove_with_Chloe]

Originally posted by Rosey
The Chlark side is the right side. :D

We want the Chlark. :)

me too.
:)

[chlarkfan333]

Originally posted by Rosey
The Chlark side is the right side. :D

We want the Chlark. :)

I believe that's my cue.....

RESISTANCE IS FUTILE......YOU WILL BE ASSIMILATED

:D

Sorry, couldn't resist. :p

[AlwaysAround]

Jealous Clark? Nope not according to Allison Mack.
She said that nothing will come out of it and that is was just a moment of discomfort and nothing more. Clark and Choe will not be a romantic couple. There are always fanfics though. That's something I guess.

[D.M.A.]

Originally posted by AlwaysAround
Jealous Clark? Nope not according to Allison Mack.
She said that nothing will come out of it and that is was just a moment of discomfort and nothing more. Clark and Choe will not be a romantic couple. There are always fanfics though. That's something I guess.
when did she say that she only stated that she would be in a relationship wit jimmy at season start(But she has no idea for the whole season).Plus she did say sumone would be awkward which we now kno is clark,so the possibility is there.No one is sayin they'll hook up soon,just that its a possible setup for a triangle.Ur puttin things in her mouth if I'm not mistaken where did she say that nothin will come of it.Yea its been brushed off but we don't kno yet if clark will ever speakup and tell her what he felt.So the possibility is there,don't fight it :D

[chunkeymonkey1981]

Jealous Clark? Nope not according to Allison Mack.
She said that nothing will come out of it and that is was just a moment of discomfort and nothing more. Clark and Choe will not be a romantic couple. There are always fanfics though. That's something I guess.


And of course you do have PROOF of this like an exact quote and a link to where I can see this supposed quote?

[BeldarofRemulak]

Did she say that one of them werent going to let the Kiss go..or agonize over it for a bit..I cant remember....but I think that Clark is not going to love Chimmy all too well

[chlarkfan333]

Here's an excerpt from the TV guide interview:
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TVGuide.com: Let's talk about The Kiss, the scorching lip-lock Chloe planted on Clark in the season finale. Do they talk about it as the new season begins [on Sept. 28]?
Allison Mack: It's mentioned in the first episode, but Chloe is pretty determined to not be in a relationship with Clark right now, just because of the dynamic of their friendship. If they tried to mix romance in with all of the other heaviness that they have going on in their relationship, it wouldn't be sustainable.

TVGuide.com: So is there awkwardness? Does anyone go back for seconds?
Mack: No, no, no one goes back for seconds. [Laughs] There definitely is, though, an awkwardness to their relationship for quite some time after — but it's just on one side.

TVGuide.com: Are you and Tom Welling like, "Why do they tease the fans so, with these annual kisses?"
Mack: Oh, I think we know why they do it! [Laughs] It's exciting to see things like that happen.

TVGuide.com: From Chloe's perspective, what sort of changes do we see in Clark when he returns from the Phantom Zone?
Mack: He's got a different sense of responsibility now because he opened up a portal to this whole other world when he came back. So he's dealing not only with the fact that he was part of the meteor shower, but also the fact that some sort of really bad people from other worlds are now coming to Earth and trying to take over, all because of him. There's this huge sense of guilt riding on him. He's also growing up, getting more powers and discovering more abilities.


TVGuide.com: So Chloe's role as his confidante must become even more important.
Mack: Huge. We always have our three or four scenes in the "Daily Planet," sort of wrapping up what's happened in the episode.

[D.M.A.]

Originally posted by chlarkfan333
TVGuide.com: So is there awkwardness? Does anyone go back for seconds?
Mack: No, no, no one goes back for seconds. [Laughs] There definitely is, though, an awkwardness to their relationship for quite some time after — but it's just on one side.

TVGuide.com: Are you and Tom Welling like, "Why do they tease the fans so, with these annual kisses?"
Mack: Oh, I think we know why they do it! [Laughs] It's exciting to see things like that happen.
these 2 parts stick out to me,the first indicates that sumone will still feel awkward now we kno its clark for sum time(which may be half the season may be the whole season),and that its 1 sided.Imo meanin that he still doesn't speakup about his feelings so chloe doesn't kno he likes her but may see a jealous side to clark tho(Maybe nothin set in stone).I kno she can only speak for maybe the first half of the season right now but imo that lets me kno that the tension between the 3 won't just be in the premiere.And clark may eventually let them have their run like he did lana/jason but he still will have sum feelings.The only question remainin is will he ever man up to her.As for the 2nd part of that quote I see her slyway sayin they kno its a potiental setup for chlark and wit the premiere I can see this happenin too.Nothin is finally but the possibility is there,she can only speak for the few episodes they've shot,and so far atleast from her interview it looks like a potential triangle between the 3.That's my take on her interview but nothin on movin on tho as sum anti r tryin to jump on so quick.Things can change by the season end and maybe clark will grow a pair and tell her how he feels but we'll see.

[khufu]

WOW! I just realized another reason why that scene was so Chlarky!!! Ok, first, check out this promo pic from Zod

http://www.kryptonsite.com/zodgallery2.htm

This is the wide ange of the reunion scene between Chloe and Clark after they hug. Notice that Clark's hands are around Chloe's waist. Now, sometimes they change things between the promo still and the actual episode, but in the final version that we saw last Thursday, they are still in this same posture - they hug, and Clark has his hands around Chloe's waist. But because they needed to zoom in on the actors' facial expressions, we don't get a wide shot of that scene like we did in the promo still. However, if you watch the scene again, you'll notice that Clark has his hands around her waist for the entire conversation (for 50 seconds to be exact)! When he finally says "Um, yeah. Me... me niether", only then does he finally let go of her waist (you can see his eyes look down at his hands as he lets go). We don't really have the benefit of seeing it that clearly because of the zoom-in, but when you realize that he never lets her go the entire time the scene is definitely making it clear that he was hoping for something to happen.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evIONcuHAbk

[chlarkfan333]

^^ Clark's withdrawal from Chloe after she brushed off the kiss is something I have been harping now for a while now in response to people concluding that Clark felt nothing but surprise in that scene. In fact, that scene (even though it's not immediately obvious) really sells the Chlark-vibe, IMO.

[RamonaE]

Originally posted by AlwaysAround
Jealous Clark? Nope not according to Allison Mack.
She said that nothing will come out of it and that is was just a moment of discomfort and nothing more. Clark and Choe will not be a romantic couple. There are always fanfics though. That's something I guess.

We'll see. That scene btw Jimmy/Chloe/Clark was classic tv drama- romance setup.

If it doesn't happen, oh well. But if it does, will you eat your hat. Good day sir. :p

[chlarkfan333]

Originally posted by AlwaysAround
Jealous Clark? Nope not according to Allison Mack.
She said that nothing will come out of it and that is was just a moment of discomfort and nothing more.

You are clearly misinformed and I direct you to the previous page where I posted AM's actual comments.

[shirkie]

Wow... After watching that scene again... that is some Chlarky, Chlarky goodness. Hooray!
shirkie

[chlarkfan333]

Originally posted by shirkie
Wow... After watching that scene again... that is some Chlarky, Chlarky goodness. Hooray!
shirkie

Exactly! I watch it several times a day to get my Chlark fix (until Sneeze).

[RamonaE]

That was classic Chlark angst. Classic. I'm hoping that now Clark has had his Lana glasses removed, he will finally make a move.

Note: Lana glasses is not a negative term to Lana, as I am a Lana fan. I loved Clana! Now I've shifted to Chlark.

[D.M.A.]

Originally posted by RamonaE
Note: Lana glasses is not a negative term to Lana, as I am a Lana fan. I loved Clana! Now I've shifted to Chlark.
yea feels good dont it hahaha naw j/k :D :lol:.yea that side got me last season,I was wit u on the clana tip til s5 so yea I feel ya

[khufu]

Wow, so even the CW is acknowledging the Chlarky goodness: http://www.kryptonsite.com/trianglepromos2.htm

[myankskent]

well now I take nothing out of the promotional campaigns. Clark is in three different triangles, that is just ridiculous.

[D.M.A.]

Originally posted by khufu
Wow, so even the CW is acknowledging the Chlarky goodness: http://www.kryptonsite.com/trianglepromos2.htm
haha I knew it was a matter of time,they first showed clexana,then loiliver/clark now chlark/jimmy.The phrase every triangle has 3 sides imo gave it away,I knew they would show all 3 couples together even if they r pasted together.It seems the CW is goin their own route,cause all that's been confirms is clexana by tptb but so far we haven't seen that just the opposite.I think tptb will play both girls relationships close this yr wit clark cause he doesn't have lana now.Plus feedin off the chlois theory which I think tptb love just to have it EDLois at the end,but I feel as tho they will have clark close to all of the relationships in sum way.And this photo is the start of it,plus kills sum of those in the anti who say they only show pics of clark/lois/oliver or cleaxana,now its even.But I think both chloe and lois will be played out evenly from here on out for suspense.But the possibility of chlark was so obvious that now the CW is pimpin it(Like anti's were sayin they were pimpin clois :D )


Originally posted by myankskent
well now I take nothing out of the promotional campaigns. Clark is in three different triangles, that is just ridiculous.
yea it is but alot of anti have thrown in that they r pimpin the clark/lois/Oliver triangle but tptb never said it.Only the CW so seein this should kill that argument since we see now that the CW is pimpin every relationship on here

[myankskent]

Originally posted by D.M.A.


yea it is but alot of anti have thrown in that they r pimpin the clark/lois/Oliver triangle but tptb never said it.Only the CW so seein this should kill that argument since we see now that the CW is pimpin every relationship on here

It kills the argument that these promotional images are indicators for what is going to happen in the future. They certainly are not given the fact that all three have been shown.

[MeLoveYouLongTime]

There is a moment when she says 'don't worry,it's not like i'm expecting us to hook up'.He gives her a look,and it's almost like despite what his mouth is saying his eyes are saying otherwise,and Chloe recognises it...but then they get interrupted.I think she knows that its on....I'm glad Clark may have to work for it this time round.

[D.M.A.]

Originally posted by myankskent
It kills the argument that these promotional images are indicators for what is going to happen in the future. They certainly are not given the fact that all three have been shown.
true which is why I never took the other 2 photo that serious cause I figured they'd do it for all the ships.

[Krypto/DQ/]

Originally posted by khufu
Wow, so even the CW is acknowledging the Chlarky goodness: http://www.kryptonsite.com/trianglepromos2.htm


WOWOWOWWOW!! Go Chlark! :P

[Joe Bob]

Originally posted by myankskent
well now I take nothing out of the promotional campaigns. Clark is in three different triangles, that is just ridiculous.

Agreed. They're promoting three freaking triangles. It's a nightmare geometry session.

[Phantazma]

If these "triangles" aren't supposed to be alluding to "romantic" possibilities, how come there doesn't seem to be a Lionel/Martha/Clark promo? Or is that particular promo photo supposed to be released soon? :confused:

[8SMALLFAN8]

I personally hope that (if they SHOULD have a triangle) they go with the Chloe/Clark/Jimmy one...

But that's just me...

[InLove_with_Chloe]

Originally posted by MeLoveYouLongTime
There is a moment when she says 'don't worry,it's not like i'm expecting us to hook up'.He gives her a look,and it's almost like despite what his mouth is saying his eyes are saying otherwise,and Chloe recognises it...but then they get interrupted.I think she knows that its on....I'm glad Clark may have to work for it this time round.

Chlarkers. I hope we will still be so confident once the GA and therefore last triangle is introduced. To me, the hospital scene was like a dark foreshadowing of what might be. Let's hope that the TPTB didn't start the season with the triangle that is going to be crapped on...

[Nospam]

Originally posted by Phantazma
If these "triangles" aren't supposed to be alluding to "romantic" possibilities, how come there doesn't seem to be a Lionel/Martha/Clark promo? Or is that particular promo photo supposed to be released soon? :confused:

They couldn't find a dress that would fit Lionel (John Glover). :)

Seriously, even without the poster I think it was obvious in the DP reunion that they are going to play up the Clark/Chloe/Jimmy triangle. To what end, though, is the real question.

[Spirit Detective]

Chloe is rebound for Clark, but if they were to become a couple, it would be very interesting considering that she knows his secret.
Chloe needs to get exposed to Nicodimus and Red K Clark needs to make a return for this "Chlark" ship to work.

[Ayanne]

Originally posted by 8SMALLFAN8
I personally hope that (if they SHOULD have a triangle) they go with the Chloe/Clark/Jimmy one...

But that's just me...

Actually, I see one triangle as part of Clark's past Clark/Lana/Lex, & one triangle the present Clark/Chloe/Jimmy, & Lois is the future ( in whatever manner, but no way should Clark be romantic with Lois at this point in time, it doesn't work)

[TalkinMac]

They are promoting all three for ratings plus they are probably confused as I don't think there was closure on Clana, Chlark has been brewing on the surface forever, and they are stuck with Lois plus all that SR stuff.

[BeldarofRemulak]

I find it interesting that clark is smirking in the chloe/jimmy one and not in the others..as well as...He is in his Adult Clark Kent position at the DP with his Jimmy the Photographer and "Chloe" his partner...;)...maybe I am just having some wishful thinking here

[TheOriginalKal-el]

It's going to be a LONG season.

[chlarkfan333]

Originally posted by TheOriginalKal-el
It's going to be a LONG season.

Let's hope it's as good as it is long :)

[tjpw fanatic]

Originally posted by TheOriginalKal-el
It's going to be a LONG season.

Do you mean that in a good way?

[All about Clark]

Originally posted by Spirit Detective
Chloe needs to get exposed to Nicodimus and Red K Clark needs to make a return for this "Chlark" ship to work.

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

[RamonaE]

Originally posted by Spirit Detective
Chloe is rebound for Clark, but if they were to become a couple, it would be very interesting considering that she knows his secret.
Chloe needs to get exposed to Nicodimus and Red K Clark needs to make a return for this "Chlark" ship to work.

Oh my, that would be wild!

[Phantazma]

Originally posted by Nospam
They couldn't find a dress that would fit Lionel (John Glover). :)

:rotfl:

I would be surprised if Clark didn't stick his nose into the Lionel/Martha affair. But I guess the promo staff figured that referring to the situation as a "triangle" might give viewers the heebie-jeebies.


Seriously, even without the poster I think it was obvious in the DP reunion that they are going to play up the Clark/Chloe/Jimmy triangle. To what end, though, is the real question.

I really wasn't expecting the Clark/Chloe/Jimmy triangle. At least, it's a sign of hope that Chlark might not be completely destroyed this season. But it's a "wait and see" game. :\

[Nospam]

Originally posted by Phantazma
:rotfl:

I would be surprised if Clark didn't stick his nose into the Lionel/Martha affair. But I guess the promo staff figured that referring to the situation as a "triangle" might give viewers the heebie-jeebies.



I really wasn't expecting the Clark/Chloe/Jimmy triangle. At least, it's a sign of hope that Chlark might not be completely destroyed this season. But it's a "wait and see" game. :\

Yes, and the critical question is what is the intent of the triangle? Romance? Jealousy? What? We also have to keep in mind that TPTB love to start out on a particular storyline only to let it peter out or never be referenced again.

[Krypto/DQ/]

Hey Chlarkers go vote there!! http://blogs.trb.com/network/cwsource/2006/10/smallville_new_characters_new.html

Chlark is leading the pool! :D

Go Chlark :P

[D.M.A.]

Originally posted by RamonaE
Oh my, that would be wild!
naw what would be wild is if that lil creature from rush got into chloe again and clark was on red k now that would be funny to watch now that they r so close :lol:

[lastdaughterofkrypton]

Originally posted by D.M.A.
naw what would be wild is if that lil creature from rush got into chloe again and clark was on red k now that would be funny to watch now that they r so close :lol:

For the Buffy fans...do you remember Spike and Buffy first time:eek:
I think they should hang a warning to people to got a safe 2 km perimeter ratio of them ;)


Originally posted by Krypto/DQ/
Hey Chlarkers go vote there!! http://blogs.trb.com/network/cwsource/2006/10/smallville_new_characters_new.html

Chlark is leading the pool! :D

Go Chlark :P

About time the CW at the begining looked like and unfriendly Chlark site....GO CHLARK!!!!!

[Ayanne]

About time the CW at the begining looked like and unfriendly Chlark site....GO CHLARK!!!!!

ICAM! It's smart to go with your most popular female!!

[InLove_with_Chloe]

Originally posted by Krypto/DQ/
Hey Chlarkers go vote there!! http://blogs.trb.com/network/cwsource/2006/10/smallville_new_characters_new.html

Chlark is leading the pool! :D

Go Chlark :P

Wow, Chlarkers. We are getting more and more powerful...
That's a clear lead.
:)

[TruthSeeker<S>]

Go Chlark!:D

[BeldarofRemulak]

I am glad that Chlark is getting some recognition!

[Krypto/DQ/]

WE WANT CHLARK! Thats what the tptb need to hear!!

[RamonaE]

Originally posted by InLove_with_Chloe
Wow, Chlarkers. We are getting more and more powerful...
That's a clear lead.
:)


Wow, the Chlarkers are voting with a vengenance. Go Chlark!

[Nospam]

There are an impressive number of Chlark geeks out there. By the way, you cannot vote twice, or at least, you cannot vote twice from the same computer I gather. Still, I am surprised the Clanarchists haven't marshalled their forces. Perhaps they're done for good?

While I am happy that Chlark is showing much love in the polls, I doubt that it will translate to anything meaningful on screen.

And check the the stats for "Martha and Lionel" as one of the couples that will come together sometime this season.

[RamonaE]

Originally posted by Nospam
There are an impressive number of Chlark geeks out there. By the way, you cannot vote twice, or at least, you cannot vote twice from the same computer I gather. Still, I am surprised the Clanarchists haven't marshalled their forces. Perhaps they're done for good?

While I am happy that Chlark is showing much love in the polls, I doubt that it will translate to anything meaningful on screen.

And check the the stats for "Martha and Lionel" as one of the couples that will come together sometime this season.

I'm staying positive, but you're absolutely right, we will have to wait and see. But I think the Chlark presence (at least online) says something.

[cotton candy girl]

Originally posted by Krypto/DQ/
WE WANT CHLARK! Thats what the tptb need to hear!!

Gosh no.

[Nospam]

Originally posted by cotton candy girl
Gosh no.

OK, how about we compromise and instead of scenes of romantic Chlark we save those for the DVD and in the meantime we replace them with scenes of a candle lit loft and the latest James Blunt song playing while Clark gently pets a contented Shelby? :p

[RamonaE]

Originally posted by Nospam
OK, how about we compromise and instead of scenes of romantic Chlark we save those for the DVD and in the meantime we replace them with scenes of a candle lit loft and the latest James Blunt song playing while Clark gently pets a contented Shelby? :p

Cotton Candy will not compromise on Chlark. I've tried. She's a woman of her convictions. :)

[Nospam]

Originally posted by RamonaE
Cotton Candy will not compromise on Chlark. I've tried. She's a woman of her convictions. :)

Believe me I know. Still love her though. I hope she is over her Clana grieving process by now and not stuck in the Oreo ice cream stage. It's always so fattening! :)

[cotton candy girl]

Originally posted by Nospam
Believe me I know. Still love her though. I hope she is over her Clana grieving process by now and not stuck in the Oreo ice cream stage. It's always so fattening! :)

You're sweet; I guess Ben and Jerry have to find another sucker to keep buying their delectable coffee heath bar crunch ice cream, because I'm just about done grieving! :mad: I'm moving on, but I don't know if I'll ever be able to accept Clark dating Chloe. :\ Nevertheless, the graciousness of people like you and Ramona make me want Clark to date Chloe (just for a while) so you guys can be happy.

See what you've done to me? :p :)

[lastdaughterofkrypton]

Originally posted by cotton candy girl
You're sweet; I guess Ben and Jerry have to find another sucker to keep buying their delectable coffee heath bar crunch ice cream, because I'm just about done grieving! :mad: I'm moving on, but I don't know if I'll ever be able to accept Clark dating Chloe. :\ Nevertheless, the graciousness of people like you and Ramona make me want Clark to date Chloe (just for a while) so you guys can be happy.

See what you've done to me? :p :)

If it makes you feel better I come from not caring about Chloe getting Clark to want her dead to want her move the hell on to Chloe is Clark soulmate and the BDA is so going to chase her till she falls again...So in a shortest time we will have you in our side:lol:...the process has begun ;)

[RamonaE]

Originally posted by cotton candy girl
You're sweet; I guess Ben and Jerry have to find another sucker to keep buying their delectable coffee heath bar crunch ice cream, because I'm just about done grieving! :mad: I'm moving on, but I don't know if I'll ever be able to accept Clark dating Chloe. :\ Nevertheless, the graciousness of people like you and Ramona make me want Clark to date Chloe (just for a while) so you guys can be happy.

See what you've done to me? :p :)

You're sweet. I'll be crossing my finger for one last Clana kiss.

Anywhoo, I really do think Clana needs some closure. I hope they don't leave Clark & Lana like this.

[Nospam]

Originally posted by cotton candy girl
You're sweet; I guess Ben and Jerry have to find another sucker to keep buying their delectable coffee heath bar crunch ice cream, because I'm just about done grieving! :mad: I'm moving on, but I don't know if I'll ever be able to accept Clark dating Chloe. :\ Nevertheless, the graciousness of people like you and Ramona make me want Clark to date Chloe (just for a while) so you guys can be happy.

See what you've done to me? :p :)

Our plan is working! I mean, what a lovely compromise. :) Unless they do Chlois, I know that Chlark won't be forever. Better it be short, sweet and tragic than never, I guess.

On a slightly different topic, I was very pleased with KK's performance in Zod. If they can keep the Lexana to a minimum I think I may like where Lana is going this season. In the end, I think it will all work out for Clark and Lana, at least as friends. This season has to be the one where she finds out the secret and then they can both move on. Chlarkers like to go on about how Chloe gets crapped on, but since the time Chloe has learned the secret her character has done very well. The same can't be said for Lana, though, and the way they ended Clark and Lana's relationship was atrocious. Let's hope they find a dignified way to reconcile the two.

[RamonaE]

The one thing I don't like about Lexana is how Lex purposely broke Clana up. I wonder when the "fit" will hit the "shan."

[RPMSDB]

Here are my original thoughts about what would happen when they were reunited.

It looked like Clark kissed back. I’m just not sure why he did. I do think it was left vague enough to keep people talking about it for a while.

Here’s what I think might happen. When Chloe and Clark reunite, she’s the one who will apologize for the kiss. She’ll make some comment on how the end of the world scenario made her realize just how short life is, and she shouldn’t waste any of it. She’ll say something about how Clark has made his feelings clear for her, and she shouldn’t have kissed him. Then she’ll brush it off by saying “I didn’t know if I would ever see you again. It was kind of a heat of the moment thing.” Clark starts to say something, but is interrupted when Jimmy walks in.

Thus, the kiss is brought up, leaving Chloe unhurt and Clark unsure of why he really kissed her back.

Until they completely nail the Chlark coffin shut like they have Clana, it’s going to be a possibility. That’s why when they shot Vessel, they did it to show it’s a possibility, as well as a heat of the moment thing.

Yes, it can be both.

The kiss was brought up, she brushed it off as a heat of the moment thing, and we weren’t given a chance to find out what Clark was really going to say because Jimmy walked in before they could discuss it any further. That still leaves Chlark as a possibility – just like TPTB said in their interview (we did that to show it’s always a possibility. Or maybe it was a heat of the moment thing).

Is it that big of a deal to show Chlark towards the end of the show and after Clark and Lois? I don’t think so. Most of the time you save your best and most important scenes towards the end. The kiss and its results has been one of the most talked about and debated things of the summer. There was no way they were going to address it until the show was closing out.

Think about it. They didn’t show Clark and Lana at the beginning of Season 5, but closer to the end. Was that important? Yes. Just as the scene with Chlark this year is important (despite what you may or may not think, TPTB and most everyone involved do things for a specific reason. They put a lot of thought and consideration into every detail).

Anyway, I wouldn’t be too upset that he saw Lois first. Nor would I let it bother me that he held her hand. They have to put Clark/Lois anvils in there, or it wouldn’t be Smallville.

When Clark walked into the DP and saw Chloe, he paused before going any further, locking his eyes onto Chloe. It was like a moment you would see when the hero has come back from battle and sees the one who sent him off into battle - he didn’t have to call her name or anything, she just looked up and there he was.

As for Chloe putting up her protective guard. I’m not sure. First of all, she didn’t kiss him so they could “hook up”. She kissed him in the heat of the moment because there was no way she was going to let Clark walk out of there without showing/telling him how she feels about him.

If I were Chloe, I wouldn’t expect to hook up either. That wasn’t her motivation behind the kiss.

As for Clark. I think this proves that he did indeed kiss her back. That he more than wanted to pursue it, and he does see Chloe differently than he ever has before. Although he didn’t say much verbally, his facial expressions spoke volumes (just like the kiss in vessel – no need for words).

When he brought up the kiss (still holding onto her), he was really searching her eyes in hopes that she would answer him differently (his whole face dropped when she didn’t). When she responded the way she did, he let go and took a step back.

Again, if you go back to Season 5, you’ll notice when he and Lana were discussing those three words, Clark wasn’t going to say anything until Lana said something first as far as the “did you mean it?”

Clark just seems to be that way. No matter how badly he cares for someone, he is not normally the one to pursue it unless he knows for a fact the other person wants it too. He’ll sit back and watch from the sidelines while some guy comes in and takes/keeps his girl.

Whether TPTB (including the CW) admit it or not, they have set up a triangle (this was written before the new Clark/Chloe/Jimmy ad). If you go back to the Season 1 commentary on the very first episode you will hear them talk about triangles and the placement of the characters. They walked you through the triangle, though not a love triangle, but a triangle, with Clark/Lex/Jonathan. They very purposely shoot scenes the way they do.

They did use the triangle with Clark/Chloe/Jimmy. And they did it on purpose.

As for the AM interview, we know Clark is going to feel awkward for quite some time (I can’t imagine why).

Back to JO, Clark was not glad to meet him in the least bit. And he didn’t seem too pleased with this nerdy little geek inviting Chloe to ‘dinner’. Matter of fact, both of them seemed to be giving the other looks about ‘their girl’.

When Chloe and Jimmy walked off, it reminded me of the many times Clark has walked away from Chloe. This time he was the one left hurt and bewildered. It looked like he may have been holding back tears.

True, Chloe seemed happy to see Jimmy again. I guess I would be too. He is after all the guy who helped Chloe though a very painful time. I’m sure they talked about it, maybe not mentioning any names, but talking just the same. He did fill a need for Chloe, and although he “took” her innocence (I’m pretty sure he didn’t steal it from her, it takes two to tango) he still meant something to her.

Maybe she didn’t fully understand just how much until she saw him again. Plus, he does call her Bright Eyes and he makes her feel special. He has given Chloe something Clark never has – himself, no strings attached (I’m not talking about sleeping with her). No wishy washy I’m-not-over-Lana-yet hogwash.

PLEASE stay with me.

I know there is still a possibility with Chlark. Until the show ends, or they very clearly show an ending to it, it will ALWAYS be a possibility, even with JO on the scene.

SDK and James Marshall (mostly SDK) mentioned something about Clark and Chloe in their commentary on Splinter.

It’s in the scene where Clark comes out of Lana’s room, and Chloe is waiting for him in the hall.

JM This was a really nice moment between these two. Um, there’s just such an emotional honesty with these two. And there’s always that undercurrent that everybody knows Chloe, even though she says she doesn’t, she still has feelings for Clark. Um . . .

SDK And you always think why. Why don’t they just get together?

JM Yes, especially since (SDK You know! She’s so great. Why don’t they} she knows his secret now. (Why can’t he just see what we all can see?) Yeah. (And at the end of this one she says “I will die for you.”)

JM Yeah, she does that so well. Actually a lot of the fans thought that was a hint in the 100th episode she was the one that would die. And they were outraged that we would even think about killing Chloe (smirking/giggling in the background). It’s like how can you even kill Chloe? Come on. She’s so good.

Silence for a few seconds.

James Masters comments, Yeah, you know, she’s able to play . . . It would be easy to get kind of love lorn and weak playing a character that’s unrequited. And she’s able to bring it dignity . (Yeah) I’m thinking kind of a heights character . I remember thinking about that when I was watching all the dvds I got early in the season trying to come up to speed.

Silence as they watch/listen to Chloe tell Clark “I’d die before I ever betray you.”

Now what TPTB do with it is anybody’s guess.

[TalkinMac]

The Clana is winning??

[InLove_with_Chloe]

Originally posted by Nospam
This season has to be the one where she finds out the secret and then they can both move on. Chlarkers like to go on about how Chloe gets crapped on, but since the time Chloe has learned the secret her character has done very well.

I actually think 'Chlark romance' and 'Lana NOT knowing Clark's secret' might be two sides of the same coin. I really think Lana should NEVER find out about Clark. It would make everything more complicated, I think. Won't she re-evaluate the past 5 years? How will she feel? She might actually understand and forgive Clark (for he was acting like a hero?), and then we're right back in the middle of Clana. If we argue that Chloe is perfect for Clark because she knows his secret (=angst-free!!!), then the same must be true for Lana, as soon as she finds out, no? Angst-free Clana. I think Lana can still move on, without finding out, maybe by focussing on something completely different, like a baby (there are rumors...).
I really do think the near future should be: Lana doesn't know, therefore no Clana, but friendship. Chloe DOES know, and therefore (potential) Chlark. As usual, Lois is awkwardly left aside in this scenario, but she is hanging around for later, of course...

[chlarkfan333]

I don't think that Lana finding out Clark's secret necessarily means they have to go back to romantic Clana. The main problem with their relationship was a lack of trust on both sides that doesn't suddenly disappear just b/c she knows. I know that fear for her life was also a major part of the reason why Clark didn't tell her toward the end of their relationship, so obviously that won't be an issue but here's the rub. To go back to romantic Clana, one is assuming that Clark will still have feelings for her and truth be told, I think we're going to see him move on. I also don't think Lana is going to be so naive as to believe that they can just pick up where they left off. Add to that, I don't think Clark is going to want to be with her once she's been in such an intimate relationship with Lex.

[lastdaughterofkrypton]

Actually I would LOVE for Lana to find out and to see how wrong she was about Clark then she can try to go back to him and I really want to see Clark rejecting her for good or telling her that now she only sees her as a sister I think till those words come out of Clark's mouth we still could have Clana.
So I want Clark to end it.

[Ayanne]

Originally posted by TalkinMac
The Clana is winning??

I just looked at that & supposedly 40k Clana fans all voted overnight? :eek: :\ Umm, probably more like 1 has figured out how to cheat the poll.

[D.M.A.]

Originally posted by Ayanne
I just looked at that & supposedly 40k Clana fans all voted overnight? :eek: :\ Umm, probably more like 1 has figured out how to cheat the poll.
I was thinkin that too cause yesterday chlark had a demandin lead.Was at 75% I think wit everyone else around 15-25%.So the BIG change is sayin sumthin.O well its jus a poll,funny that sumone wants clana to win so much.:lol: too bad they aren't together anymore :D jk

[khufu]

Yeah I happened to be up last night and noticed. When I hit refresh on my browser I could see that Clana was getting votes at the rate of about 10 per second!!! :lol: ... Gee, I had no idea 50,000 people liked to stay up at 4AM :D

[EllenF]

Hee. The fan (or fans) who "voted" overnight get an A for technological know-how... but an F for subtlety.:rotfl:

[Ayanne]

Originally posted by khufu
Yeah I happened to be up last night and noticed. When I hit refresh on my browser I could see that Clana was getting votes at the rate of about 10 per second!!! :lol: ... Gee, I had no idea 50,000 people liked to stay up at 4AM :D

I actually voted in this poll last night, right before bed & Chlark were up by over 78%.

[MBCorp]

I think everybody has been cheating on the poll (the numbers are all inflated to a ridiculous extent) but to be fair, I do think that if this had been a fair poll then Chlark would probably have won. It did win ksite's poll after all.

[jimmyolsenblues]

I am late to the party. Sorry.
What poll are you talking about?
Did the admin take down the poll?

[shirkie]

COTTON CANDY GIRL, STAY STRONG!!!! DO NOT CRUMBLE!!! Hehe. You know I love ya. :)

About the poll, though, I don't know how popular Chlark is outside of KSite. I don't know anyone who even watches "Smallville" sadly enough, and I don't visit any other fansites (why would I need to? KSite has everything!), so I really don't have any clue as to how "the general fan population" feels about Clana vs. Chlark.
shirkie

[lastdaughterofkrypton]

Originally posted by shirkie
COTTON CANDY GIRL, STAY STRONG!!!! DO NOT CRUMBLE!!! Hehe. You know I love ya. :)

About the poll, though, I don't know how popular Chlark is outside of KSite. I don't know anyone who even watches "Smallville" sadly enough, and I don't visit any other fansites (why would I need to? KSite has everything!), so I really don't have any clue as to how "the general fan population" feels about Clana vs. Chlark.
shirkie

Well I visit TWOP is really good and Chlark is strong there as well but the other major site Devoted to ... I "heard" it was Clanner (don't know where they stand though)... We need more info from other people that goes to other site to have the general feeling

[RPMSDB]

I was about about around 2:00 this morning, and the poll was about 78% Chlark. That's ahuge change in a very short time!

Anyway, here's some more things I noticed about the Chlark reunion.

Once Clark reluctantly said, “Yeah . . . me neither” and let go to step back, it looked like Chloe saw something in his eyes that made her wonder if he really meant what he said. She gave him a look (eyebrows kind of raised) as to say, “Clark, it’s me. If there is something you need to say, say it.”

This look only lasted for a second or two before JO walks in.

Also, when Clark brought up the “we had a moment”, he included himself. I find this quite interesting. The use of ‘we’ directly indicates that Clark, as well as Chloe, did have a moment, and the kiss was mutual.

What I also find interesting – he never tried to dismiss the moment, nor did he try to make up an excuse for it.

Another thing, when he told Chloe he had been in a place he never wanted to go again, Clark didn’t dwell on that and Chloe didn’t push him on it. What he did do – quickly got onto the most important things. 1) If Chloe was all right (I loved her answer). 2) Their moment.

Now, I know some are wondering why he wouldn’t/didn’t tell Chloe any more info. As I see it, the ‘where he had been and what had happened’ just wasn’t as important to him as Chloe’s well being and their kiss.

And about the bracelets, I have noticed them also. I’m not sure if that is a ‘in-your-face’ thing or not. I do know they are very tedious when it comes to details (as far as the set/colors/clothes, etc) . . . are concerned.

Could it be foreshadowing? Anything is possible.

What I find very ironic is the bracelet Chloe was wearing in Hidden. The style (Native American), and the stones ( turquoise) were close to the one Naman is supposed to give to his soulmate.

I looked up soulmate. According to the dictionary it means a person ideally suited to another.

Now whether or not that is what TPTB are trying to hint at, I don’t know. I just think it is ironic how similar the two bracelets are.

I have read the Chlois theory/debate. I do believe Chloe is the Lois Lane of Smallvile. Although she does not ‘technically’ hold the name of Lois, she certainly is a lot like her (I know, TPTB have already said she is a precursor).

I also think Chloe is ideally suited for Clark as far as the universe of SM is concerned. Maybe we are starting to see Clark really seeing that now. But will TPTB do anything about it or with it? It all depends on how Chlark fits into (or doesn’t fit into) the scheme of things.

[MBCorp]

Originally posted by lastdaughterofkrypton
Well I visit TWOP is really good and Chlark is strong there as well but the other major site Devoted to ... I "heard" it was Clanner (don't know where they stand though)... We need more info from other people that goes to other site to have the general feeling

Devoted (can we even mention that here?) from what I've seen is pretty big on Clois shipping, although it used to be a huge Clana haven. TWoP used to be big on the Clex but the few times that I've visited that msg board recently they've been strongly into Chlark with some Lexana/Clois. It's a bit too shippy though for my taste, which is my problem with Devoted too. Ksite of course is Chlark heavy but it's not as shippy as the other sites and there's plenty of people that aren't at all interested in ships and are more into the Superman aspect.


COTTON CANDY GIRL, STAY STRONG!!!! DO NOT CRUMBLE!!! Hehe. You know I love ya.

It would be sad if Cotton Candy Girl became a Chlarker and completely gave up on Clana. :( DO NOT GIVE IN TO THE CHLARK SIDE, COTTON CANDY GIRL!

[chlarkfan333]

Yes given in Cotton Candy Girl! RESISTANCE IS FUTILE.....YOU WILL BE ASSIMILATED!!

Lol, I'm so pathetic, I know. I get a kick out of it each time. :lol:

[photogirl]

Clark always realizes everything just a little too late...but I'm not giving up hope quite yet.

[lastdaughterofkrypton]

Originally posted by RPMSDB
I was about about around 2:00 this morning, and the poll was about 78% Chlark. That's ahuge change in a very short time!

Anyway, here's some more things I noticed about the Chlark reunion.

Once Clark reluctantly said, “Yeah . . . me neither” and let go to step back, it looked like Chloe saw something in his eyes that made her wonder if he really meant what he said. She gave him a look (eyebrows kind of raised) as to say, “Clark, it’s me. If there is something you need to say, say it.”

This look only lasted for a second or two before JO walks in.

Also, when Clark brought up the “we had a moment”, he included himself. I find this quite interesting. The use of ‘we’ directly indicates that Clark, as well as Chloe, did have a moment, and the kiss was mutual.

What I also find interesting – he never tried to dismiss the moment, nor did he try to make up an excuse for it.

Another thing, when he told Chloe he had been in a place he never wanted to go again, Clark didn’t dwell on that and Chloe didn’t push him on it. What he did do – quickly got onto the most important things. 1) If Chloe was all right (I loved her answer). 2) Their moment.

Now, I know some are wondering why he wouldn’t/didn’t tell Chloe any more info. As I see it, the ‘where he had been and what had happened’ just wasn’t as important to him as Chloe’s well being and their kiss.

And about the bracelets, I have noticed them also. I’m not sure if that is a ‘in-your-face’ thing or not. I do know they are very tedious when it comes to details (as far as the set/colors/clothes, etc) . . . are concerned.

Could it be foreshadowing? Anything is possible.

What I find very ironic is the bracelet Chloe was wearing in Hidden. The style (Native American), and the stones ( turquoise) were close to the one Naman is supposed to give to his soulmate.

I looked up soulmate. According to the dictionary it means a person ideally suited to another.

Now whether or not that is what TPTB are trying to hint at, I don’t know. I just think it is ironic how similar the two bracelets are.

I have read the Chlois theory/debate. I do believe Chloe is the Lois Lane of Smallvile. Although she does not ‘technically’ hold the name of Lois, she certainly is a lot like her (I know, TPTB have already said she is a precursor).

I also think Chloe is ideally suited for Clark as far as the universe of SM is concerned. Maybe we are starting to see Clark really seeing that now. But will TPTB do anything about it or with it? It all depends on how Chlark fits into (or doesn’t fit into) the scheme of things.

That is a great post :) You should take it to Chlois thread ;)


Originally posted by MBCorp
Devoted (can we even mention that here?) from what I've seen is pretty big on Clois shipping, although it used to be a huge Clana haven.

I always suspected that Devoted was more an antiChlark/Chloe site (I think they were the ones that say that Chloe was a fat mottor mouth an too uggly to be loved by Clark :mad: ) so is not a surprise that they switched to Clois after Clana...Well at least they are sticking to a wininng couple this time...

[shirkie]

No, we're not allowed to mention Devoted (which is why the word filter kicks in if you use the acronym, I believe). I forgot about TWoP. I visit that every week for Omar's hilarious recaps, but not for the actual message boards or anything. Like I said, KSite is the only message board for me. ;)

I don't know, I am just so freaking excited to see how the Chloe/Jimmy/Clark triangle turns out... Tee hee!!!!
shirkie

[D.M.A.]

Originally posted by MBCorp
It would be sad if Cotton Candy Girl became a Chlarker and completely gave up on Clana. :( DO NOT GIVE IN TO THE CHLARK SIDE, COTTON CANDY GIRL!
haha we got u last week next on the list CCG :lol: :rotfl:

[RamonaE]

Originally posted by EllenF
Hee. The fan (or fans) who "voted" overnight get an A for technological know-how... but an F for subtlety.:rotfl:

Oh man, you can totally cheat this poll. I voted already and it let me to vote again. This poll is so awful.


Originally posted by MBCorp
I think everybody has been cheating on the poll (the numbers are all inflated to a ridiculous extent) but to be fair, I do think that if this had been a fair poll then Chlark would probably have won. It did win ksite's poll after all.

I agree. There's probably been some cheating going on all around.

[cotton candy girl]

Originally posted by MBCorp
It would be sad if Cotton Candy Girl became a Chlarker and completely gave up on Clana. :( DO NOT GIVE IN TO THE CHLARK SIDE, COTTON CANDY GIRL!

Originally posted by shirkie
COTTON CANDY GIRL, STAY STRONG!!!! DO NOT CRUMBLE!!! Hehe. You know I love ya. :)


Wow, how funny. I know I have such a big mouth when it comes to being anti-Chlark. I just about have given up on Clana because I think I'd be a dummy if I didn't. But they're in my heart. :p Anyway yeah, I guess there would be (to be cliche) ice-skating in Hades before I "joined the Chlark side" :\ But hey, miracles sometimes happen. :\

Chlarkfan333, DMA, never....mwahahaha!

[D.M.A.]

Originally posted by cotton candy girl
DMA, never....mwahahaha!
for now,but soon u'll join us :lol: :lol:

[Zaine07]

I am so glad that lana broke it off with clark forever. Now chloe can swoop in and confess her lover for clark. And they will finally be together.