Lois & Clark?

[Kalel x2x2]

Hmmm maybe this is that season =] holding hands and what not ;)

[cotton candy girl]

I saw Clois.

[shaula luthor]

I want clois............

[thehenry89]

totaly saw it

[RamonaE]

I though the hand hold was cute. They had a nice moment. However, I don't think it was anything more than what it was, we shouldn't read anymore into it.

[cotton candy girl]

Originally posted by RamonaE
I though the hand hold was cute. They had a nice moment. However, I don't think it was anything more than what it was, we shouldn't read anymore into it.

I think it's foreshadowing.

[Xsmallville_obsessedX]

I loved that moment! Bring on the Clois! :)

[Aloof]

That was SO adorable. XD

[F-Stop Blues]

It was sweet. And we know from the promo poster with her Clark and Ollie that thats the triangle that they are playing up this season.

[katt12]

It was so cute! That is offically my favorite part of the episode.

[thehenry89]

for reals finaly tptb got somethin right

[lilkoolmaria]

Aww, I loved that scene. Their eye contact was so cute!

[ShadowSpectre]

Yeah that was great forshadowing. It shows that despite what he might say Clark genuinely cares alot for Lois.

[ChaaBreh]

Tom and Erica have so much more chemistry than Tom and Kristen did. You can tell that T & E are friends in real life, there's a real spark between them, and the way Tom looked when he was holding her hand....he's already in love with her and doesn't know it yet!

[Deana]

I enjoyed it.

I like the fact that she told him she thought she'd went to heaven and in fact she was in his FOS.

I told my brother that Lois was spitting game and didn't even know it.

[D.M.A.]

ha I thought it was funny when she was like I think I saw heaven,I almost died laughin.But that holdin hands scene was too funny

[cotton candy girl]

Originally posted by Deana
I enjoyed it.

I like the fact that she told him she thought she'd went to heaven and in fact she was in his FOS.

I told my brother that Lois was spitting game and didn't even know it.

:lol:

[MBCorp]

I liked it too. Clark would totally have kept right on holding her hand if Lois hadn't made that little face.

[imafan411]

OOOHH! I totally loved the hand holding part! So cute! Definetly see more progress this season with Lois and Clark! Bring on the love!:p

[FiveForFighting09]

saw it , want it , and need it........it was aweosme.....i hope that they continue with Clois.........i like it.

[thehenry89]

you know it

[VisionGirl]

I enjoy how I had the same reaction as Lois. "umm, since when do you hold her hand?"

I think Clark will begin to give his relationship with Lois a closer look this season.

About time.

[katt12]

I know! But it was still so cute. They almost reminded me of those times when Clark and Lana had those awkward moments in the earlier season.

[Ireallylikethisshow]

It was adorable! But... I think it was one-sided. Which I would love to see! I wanna see Clark chase Lois.

(IMO it went sorta like this)

Clark took her hand because he was happy she was okay, and sort of went deeper then that. Lois was happy at first until she asked herself "since when do we hold hands?" and Clark realized that it was kind of unusual, and embarassed took his hand back.


I also thought it was cute that she thought of the FOS as heaven! And Martha saving her was so sweet. OMG! I love SV!

[RamonaE]

Originally posted by ChaaBreh
Tom and Erica have so much more chemistry than Tom and Kristen did. You can tell that T & E are friends in real life, there's a real spark between them, and the way Tom looked when he was holding her hand....he's already in love with her and doesn't know it yet!

Ok, I think you're reading a little too much into it. They shared a moment when they both put there guards down. It may be foreshadowing but he's not in love with her yet.

[sassy_reporter]

I loved the annoyed eyeroll/smirk ("good lord" look) that clark had right after lois gave him that look and he realized why she was looking at him funny!

Bring on the Clois!

[cotton candy girl]

Originally posted by Ireallylikethisshow
(IMO it went sorta like this)

Clark took her hand because he was happy she was okay, and sort of went deeper then that. Lois was happy at first until she asked herself "since when do we hold hands?" and Clark realized that it was kind of unusual, and embarassed took his hand back.



I think you hit the nail on the head with the analysis.

[thehenry89]

Originally posted by Ireallylikethisshow
It was adorable! But... I think it was one-sided. Which I would love to see! I wanna see Clark chase Lois.

(IMO it went sorta like this)

Clark took her hand because he was happy she was okay, and sort of went deeper then that. Lois was happy at first until she asked herself "since when do we hold hands?" and Clark realized that it was kind of unusual, and embarassed took his hand back.


I also thought it was cute that she thought of the FOS as heaven! And Martha saving her was so sweet. OMG! I love SV!

i think it was two sided lois was alittle uncofortable but not to much. i want clois so bad my head hurts why can't tptb get there heads out of there areses and put these two together.

[muffinpeddler]

I liked the scene, but it felt really forced. And I think it's kinda early for Clois.


Originally posted by thehenry89
i think it was two sided lois was alittle uncofortable but not to much. i want clois so bad my head hurts why can't tptb get there heads out of there areses and put these two together.

Because of DC Comics!:D

[attitudejc]

yeah..i hope we don't get clois...and i didn't really think it was too big of a deal...they have had more akward moments than that..i think maybe the writers were just trying to add a little bit of amusement from all the depressing stuff going on lol

[imafan411]

I really hope this season they can bring Lois and Clark together more and the afct that there is going to be sort of a love triangle with Lois, Clark and the green arrow makes it so much better!

Usually with Lois and Clark history we see Clark chasing after Lois a little and that would be cute...

All in All...Season six premiere was awesome! Love, can't get enough!:D

[angelfire east]

I loved it:D The hand holding, the "I think was died and gone to heven", the loving looks, it was all just too cute:D

[jimmyolsenblues]

I think the hand holding is a sign of things to come. That was no accident.

[F-Stop Blues]

Imo this is the type of the thing that they should be doing the whole season and just progress it slightly each time.

[Closet Cloiser]

The hand holding is only the beginning!!!!:D :D :D (or so i hope:p )

[cotton candy girl]

Originally posted by jimmyolsenblues
I think the hand holding is a sign of things to come. That was no accident.

I so agree.

[myankskent]

This all started at the end of Oracle when Lois and Clark spoke in the loft. That scene was very genuine by both Clark and Lois in the hospital and I love how both suddenly realized after a bit that they were holding hands and then pulled away. They were caught in the moment and then they snapped out of it, great execution in that scene.

[Ireallylikethisshow]

I HOPE!

[beatles4]

Don't forget they have hugged before and I was kind of expecting Clark to do that when he walked in, actually. The hand holding bit was so funny and cute! I love Clois, but of course it's too soon for this relationship to really go any where just yet. Perhaps near the end of Smallville, will they push it further. Right now, it makes for more interesting interaction if they aren't in love right away. Even Erica mentioned that in an interview and was hoping that the writers wouldn't put them together just yet. Makes sense to me and it's more interesting for the viewers!

[thehenry89]

it kinda reminds me of season three buffy with willow and xander so cute

[VisionGirl]

Yeah - let's not forget that this is the premiere. They tend to tuck as many of the season's themes in as possible. For the episode itself, the scene was seemingly unnecessary - nice, but didn't serve a real function (except maybe establish Lois wasn't dead. But logic would dictate that the scene may have played more naturally if it had been between her and Martha) -- what I'm getting at is they went out of their way a bit for the scene. So it shouldn't be taken lightly.

[Ireallylikethisshow]

I agree... but I have my clois blinders on very tightly right now.

[kryptofreak662]

well Clark seemed more into chloe until shot down like he did so many times to her. Chloe was jealous of lois at first in the episode it hink it was with scabby abby but yu can see scorn in chloe's eye's as she see's clark flirting with lois in a dunk tank, so we'll hav to wait a while before we see anything to hapen between clark and lois cuz the interest is only a spark in lois's mind but now clark has virtually no love in his life no Lana no Chloe, no lois (for now) so we'll see

[RedKalEL]

i was happy when i saw this but thne my clois dreams came tumpling down when i saw what looked like clark likes chloe

[Ireallylikethisshow]

btw- he visited Lois first.... I'm thinking that might be a sign also.

[Wildfire]

I think we have seen a tease but remember for a real Clois realtionship happen it will take alot of work. It will take time with little moments becoming more and more tell dunder(ie Clark) head wakes up. But that is a long way off yet.

[cotton candy girl]

Originally posted by Ireallylikethisshow
btw- he visited Lois first.... I'm thinking that might be a sign also.

You reminded me; I was thinking the same thing. He visited Lois first-not Chloe.

[sassy_reporter]

I dont' think clark wanted to start anything with chloe, but he's so used to have chloe around so to have her so quickly say she wasn't interested and run off with jimmy is a blow to him, especially now that he literally has no one (no dad, no jor-el, no lex, no lana). I think it's really more of a dislike of the times changing and also a natural jealousy that someone who used to be totally in love and obsessed with you who suddenly isn't!

It seems at least from the ads floating around that they're pimping the CLois this season! Or at least that one of them will have feelings for the other. I think it's too early for them to have a serious relationship--I'll settle for some subconcious like of each other!

[Cat_Atak]

When I saw Clark in the hospital I knew who he was going to see. And when I saw Lois I was like YES! Then he held her hand and it was so cute. However it did seem he was into Chloe more which was cool also. So we'll see what happens :D

[liana]

I think they give both ships something. They gave chlarkers the "Clark would have gone with a relationship with Chloe" at the same time that they broke it, because now, Chloe is not interested any more. (Thank heaven! It was really time for her to move on!) And they gave the Cloisers the hand holding, as a sign of things to come or possibly another foreshadowing moment.

[kris10]

didnt he just happen to be in smallville at the end of the episode because thats where Zod was? so he drops by to see Lois that doesnt prove anything.

[cotton candy girl]

Originally posted by liana
I think they give both ships something. They gave chlarkers the "Clark would have gone with a relationship with Chloe" at the same time that they broke it, because now, Chloe is not interested any more. (Thank heaven! It was really time for her to move on!) And they gave the Cloisers the hand holding, as a sign of things to come or possibly another foreshadowing moment.

I agree. Chloe being in love with Clark was tiring; she seemed convincingly over Clark tonight. As for Clois, it seemed like foreshadowing to me.

[sassy_reporter]

I also think the thing with chloe is that he sees he could potentially be with her but I think if she were really eager, I'm not sure he's at a point in his life where he COULD have a relationship. he just got over lana! I think it's understandable that he'd be thrown off and jealous by her sudden lack of interest in him after all these years and running of with jimmy! We all get that way after someone who's followed us and adored us gets a new crush!

I don't think this proves anything, but I'm hoping to see Lois/Clark banter like the beginning of season 4. Bring that back! :-)

[RedKalEL]

But we can all toast on one thing I think he's finally over lana *raises wine glass*

[mortalclark]

I think that it was also foreshadowing to Clois, and that it won't go farther, than that, depending on the introduction of Ollie. Clark cares about Lois, as a friend, we have seen that in previous episodes. I think that he is starting to move on from Lana, this whole situation has changed his perspective, on his past, his future, and what he has to do. The Clark/Lois/Ollie triangle, as well as the Clark/Chloe/Jimmy triangle, will NOT affect Clark in the slightest, because he now knows, that Jor-El sacrificed everything that he could to prevent the destruction of Krypton (and Earth) I got off topic, there, but, I think this was a great scene, well shot, and well written. The look of disbelief on Lois' face, followed by the reaction of Clark (looking off screen) definately gave, all of us Clois folk, hope...

[smallville86]

Didn't anyone else think that Lois was not interested in the hand holding from the minute he grabbed her hand? Maybe I saw it wrong but it looked like she was completely not interested

[mortalclark]

Originally posted by RedKalEL
But we can all toast on one thing I think he's finally over lana *raises wine glass*


Cheers to that, definately.

*raises his glass*

[cotton candy girl]

Originally posted by RedKalEL
But we can all toast on one thing I think he's finally over lana *raises wine glass*

Please leave Clana out of this. The show has revolved around them from the beginning. Sorry to break my own request. :\ :D

[thehenry89]

hells yes

[cotton candy girl]

This is not about Clana.

[mortalclark]

I have more faith in Smallville now than ever. I think it was a great premiere, and that as long as the Green Arrow arc and whatever else is in hold for this season could hold the ratings and give us Season 7. Here's hoping.

*crosses fingers*

One major thing I want to know: is the piece of WHATEVER Zod put on the laptop, the black box that we've read about? What is it? The ship? Please answer!

[Ireallylikethisshow]

I think she was a little into it at first, but then was like "hmm... what are we doing?"

[sassy_reporter]

The nature of lois and clark relationships has always been about denial, especially on Lois's side! I heart Clois!

[jazel]

Originally posted by ChaaBreh
Tom and Erica have so much more chemistry than Tom and Kristen did. You can tell that T & E are friends in real life, there's a real spark between them, and the way Tom looked when he was holding her hand....he's already in love with her and doesn't know it yet! AGREE 100%

[Superman_Beyond]

Originally posted by kris10
didnt he just happen to be in smallville at the end of the episode because thats where Zod was? so he drops by to see Lois that doesnt prove anything.

Someone posted on TWOP that he went to see Lois first and waited until the next day to see Chloe.

[jazel]

he was wearing different clothes

[Superman_Beyond]

I know cuz it was the next day.

[liana]

Originally posted by RedKalEL
But we can all toast on one thing I think he's finally over lana *raises wine glass*

Well... I would like to think so, but I doubt it. Actually I see the whole thing with Chloe as an attempt to be over Lana, if you know what I mean. Chloe is the easy answer: she had always liked him, she knows his secret and he trusts her. Clark has a history of pursuing relationships with girls who already knew his secret (Kyla, Alicia) without really loving them. I think he told Lex, when Lex asked him about his love for Lana and why he was in a relationship with Kyla, "It is a whole different thing when the person loves you back." And we all know that he never really loved Kyla or Alicia. He told Lana that, and I believe it. I mean, if he did, he wouldn't have got over their deaths that quickly...

The way I see it, Clark would have entered in a relationship with Chloe because he wanted to get over Lana and because he didn't want to be alone.

Oh, I was replying the quote and I didn't see cottoncandy asking to keep clana out. So, sorry...

[kris10]

Who cares?

[imafan411]

I think Lois think's Chloe might still have some hiding feelings for Clark so I think she might have convinced herself that Clark is off limit's because she doesn't want to hurt her cousin.

I just have to say the look on both their faces were acted out perfectly and they were just priceless moments! I def. see something this season...not anything like big but enough to get the ball rolling, I think the hand thing was a sign givin to us. Hinting at something yet to come! Bring on the CLOIS!:D :D :D ;)

[cotton candy girl]

Originally posted by liana
Oh, I was replying the quote and I didn't see cottoncandy asking to keep clana out. So, sorry...

Oh I wasn't trying to mod. I was requesting. Of course no one has to listen to me. :p :)

[RedKalEL]

Originally posted by cotton candy girl
Please leave Clana out of this. The show has revolved around them from the beginning. Sorry to break my own request. :\ :D

oh don't worry i can defintly keep clana out lol

[cotton candy girl]

Originally posted by RedKalEL
oh don't worry i can defintly keep clana out lol

Yeah, disillusioned Clana person here! :p :)

But I digress; I saw Clois foreshadowing tonight, and I'm happy about that.

[liana]

Originally posted by imafan411
I think Lois think's Chloe might still have some hiding feelings for Clark so I think she might have convinced herself that Clark is off limit's because she doesn't want to hurt her cousin.

I just have to say the look on both their faces were acted out perfectly and they were just priceless moments! I def. see something this season...not anything like big but enough to get the ball rolling, I think the hand thing was a sign givin to us. Hinting at something yet to come! Bring on the CLOIS!:D :D :D ;)

I don't think Lois has any feelings towards Clark right now. :\ That scene makes you wonder that Clark may have some feelings towards her. If anything, they are one sided, not mutual, and I'm perfect fine with that. For now, Clark has to be alone, so he could grow up. Besides, I love that Clark always falls for Lois first. ;)


Originally posted by cotton candy girl
Oh I wasn't trying to mod. I was requesting. Of course no one has to listen to me. :p :)

Hey, I heard you and I wasn't attacking clana in any way. But I will stop comenting on it. :( Please, forgive me. You know I have always respected your feelings concerning clana.:\

[sassy_reporter]

Yeah I'm totally for Clark falling for Lois first. However, season 5 was totally like Clark REALLY dislikes lois. He cares about her but he's totally irritated by her. We saw a lot more of Lois being like "I'd be lucky to be with someone like clark" blah blah. However, this seen totally seemed that Lois was like ermm...ew and clark was more like "oh lois" in an affectionate way when she made that face about them holding hands.

[RamonaE]

Originally posted by Ireallylikethisshow
btw- he visited Lois first.... I'm thinking that might be a sign also.

There have been plenty of times in which he visited Chloe first. I don't think him visiting Lois in the hospital 1st is significant, particularly since he was already in Smallville, it would be logical for him to first go to the Smallville Medical Center and then travel to Metropolis.

[cotton candy girl]

Originally posted by liana

Hey, I heard you and I wasn't attacking clana in any way. But I will stop comenting on it. :( Please, forgive me. You know I have always respected your feelings concerning clana.:\

No, I wasn't even directing it specifically towards you when I said it, Liana. I saw some Clana-bashing on the horizon, but you're reasonable about Clana even though you're not a Clana shipper.

Anyway, we should get back on topic. :)

[clarksmuse]

Originally posted by Ireallylikethisshow
I think she was a little into it at first, but then was like "hmm... what are we doing?"


Yeah, I thought that whole scene was precious! I LOVED the look on Lois's face! :lol:

[D.M.A.]

Originally posted by RamonaE
There have been plenty of times in which he visited Chloe first. I don't think him visiting Lois in the hospital 1st is significant, particularly since he was already in Smallville, it would be logical for him to first go to the Smallville Medical Center and then travel to Metropolis.
True that's what I thought too,no need to look too much into him goin to check on lois first.But the scene was good tho,just like any bro/sis relationship they looked awkward and the scene was funny.Lois line about heaven had me crackin up,hope the keep up sumhow this season.Those 2 r fun to watch just to see bicker if nothin else

[Tomsgurl88]

I was LOVING it was Fabulous!! LOL

[RedKalEL]

Originally posted by cotton candy girl
Yeah, disillusioned Clana person here! :p :)

But I digress; I saw Clois foreshadowing tonight, and I'm happy about that.

same here. but now we have to deal with Ollie. So it looks like us clois people will hate ollie, "The forbiddien ship" will hate lex and chlark will hate jimmy

[Ghost963]

Hehe, that scene was awesome! I started whooping and stuff until my mom told me to shut up.

I'm seeing some awesome potential foreshadowing of the two of them in this season! Happy dance!!!

[imafan411]

Can't wait for the next episode and the next after that and after that! I hope that there are more Clois moments! Little moments like that are the moments a rewind on my TiVo to watch over and over again! The premieres always show as much of what to come this season! Hopefully Clois is one of them.

Originally posted by Liana


I don't think Lois has any feelings towards Clark right now. That scene makes you wonder that Clark may have some feelings towards her. If anything, they are one sided, not mutual, and I'm perfect fine with that. For now, Clark has to be alone, so he could grow up. Besides, I love that Clark always falls for Lois first.

I was thinking the same thing! Clark falling for Lois always makes there history better. I Love it!:D :) :D :)

[RedKalEL]

yeah at least they will give us some awkard moments and flirting

[liana]

It was a cute scene. Clark was sweet and anyone could see he was really concerned about her. And the way he started to explain that she should have been alucinating kind of reminded me of LnC and all the poor excuses he kept giving her all the time. :rotfl: I was laughing so hard at this point...

[cotton candy girl]

Originally posted by liana
It was a cute scene. Clark was sweet and anyone could see he was really concerned about her. And the way he started to explain that she should have been alucinating kind of reminded me of LnC and all the poor excuses he kept giving her all the time. :rotfl: I was laughing so hard at this point...

That's true. I didn't even make the connection.

[FreddyO]

Wow, it's amazing how people can see what they want to see in a scene. So many of you here are obviously big EDlois fans and want Clois so bad that you can taste it and see it where it isn't.

The scene was probably foreshadowing, but that's it! There were no sparks, no pining, no nothing. In fact, other than the general, family like care that Clark showed for Lois in the scene (gave me more of a brother sister vibe) there was nothing there. Lois clearly felt funny and a little uncomfortable about how strongly Clark was squeezing her hand, and once she made eye contact with Clark, he realized what she was thinking (that this is "weird") and he immediately let go and gave a little bit of an eye roll. That indicated to me that he was only showing brother/sister type concern to Lois, and nothing else. There's no way the scene was meant to indicate that either of them was feeling anything sexual or even romantic toward each other. It just wasn't there folks. Sorry.

On the other hand, it's clear that Clark was ready to open his heart to Chloe and she blind-sided him with her new found LI, Jimmy. Clark was so ready to explore a relationship with her!

[ma200]

Originally posted by liana
I see the whole thing with Chloe as an attempt to be over Lana, if you know what I mean.

Definitely.

[cotton candy girl]

Originally posted by FreddyO
Wow, it's amazing how people can see what they want to see in a scene. So many of you here are obviously big EDlois fans and want Clois so bad that you can taste it and see it where it isn't.

The scene was probably foreshadowing, but that's it! There were no sparks, no pining, no nothing. In fact, other than the general, family like care that Clark showed for Lois in the scene (gave me more of a brother sister vibe) there was nothing there.

But that's just it. I think everyone's shipper biases can get in the way. It's a matter of perception. I clearly felt that something was different; but that's subjective.

[Superman_Beyond]

Yes it is amazing how people see what they want to see in a scene. There was no brother/sister vibe in that scene.

[cotton candy girl]

:lol:

[RamonaE]

Originally posted by cotton candy girl
But that's just it. I think everyone's shipper biases can get in the way. It's a matter of perception. It wasn't brothely to me; but that's subjective.

I agree. I think we all have biases that get in the way with our perceptions.

But from my perspective, Clark & Lois did share a moment. I didn't necessarily think it was a romantic moment.

On the other hand I thought Chloe & Clark also had a moment.

But you're right it's all about your perception.

[Tomsgurl88]

Hell no there was no brother/sister vibe!!!, what the hell are people thinking??? It was hot!!! LOL

[Superman_Beyond]

Originally posted by RamonaE
I agree. I think we all have biases that get in the way with our perceptions.

But from my perspective, Clark & Lois did share a moment. I didn't necessarily think it was a romantic moment.

On the other hand I thought Chloe & Clark also had a moment.

But you're right it's all about your perception.

Yeh i thought both shared a moment. I even posted on another thread that i was scared AlMiles might do a CLark/Lois/Chloe triangle.

[myankskent]

Originally posted by FreddyO
Wow, it's amazing how people can see what they want to see in a scene. So many of you here are obviously big EDlois fans and want Clois so bad that you can taste it and see it where it isn't.

The scene was probably foreshadowing, but that's it! There were no sparks, no pining, no nothing. In fact, other than the general, family like care that Clark showed for Lois in the scene (gave me more of a brother sister vibe) there was nothing there. Lois clearly felt funny and a little uncomfortable about how strongly Clark was squeezing her hand, and once she made eye contact with Clark, he realized what she was thinking (that this is "weird") and he immediately let go and gave a little bit of an eye roll. That indicated to me that he was only showing brother/sister type concern to Lois, and nothing else. There's no way the scene was meant to indicate that either of them was feeling anything sexual or even romantic toward each other. It just wasn't there folks. Sorry.


You know, it is possible for a romance to play out in different ways on this show. We already got the magical, staring into your eyes type of stuff with Clana. With Clois, you can tell that it's going to be a bit "tougher". It's probably not going to be as sappy as other romances. I thought that this was a great moment between the two of them and they clearly got lost in the moment when they were holding hands until they both realized what they were doing. And I think that they got lost in the moment because it felt natural. That's just my opinion.



On the other hand, it's clear that Clark was ready to open his heart to Chloe and she blind-sided him with her new found LI, Jimmy. Clark was so ready to explore a relationship with her!

Love to comment on this but we have been warned already not to have shipper wars in the Chlark and Clois threads, so I'll hold back for now.

[newfan]

Oh my god that was my favorite part in the whole episode..that hand holding...I saw it...I saw the look on both their faces...*keeps fingers crossed for Clois this season*

[cotton candy girl]

Originally posted by RamonaE
I agree. I think we all have biases that get in the way with our perceptions.

But from my perspective, Clark & Lois did share a moment. I didn't necessarily think it was a romantic moment.

On the other hand I thought Chloe & Clark also had a moment.

But you're right it's all about your perception.

Ok I do admit that Clark seemed to be interested in Chloe, but I just don't think Al/ Miles will have him date cousins. But we know my record with what I think will happen, huh Ramona, lol.

So to get back on topic, I think tptb were making a point that something is different about Clois now.

[RamonaE]

Originally posted by myankskent
You know, it is possible for a romance to play out in different ways on this show. We already got the magical, staring into your eyes type of stuff with Clana. With Clois, you can tell that it's going to be a bit "tougher". It's probably not going to be as sappy as other romances. I thought that this was a great moment between the two of them and they clearly got lost in the moment when they were holding hands until they both realized what they were doing. And I think that they got lost in the moment because it felt natural. That's just my opinion.

[B]

Love to comment on this but we have been warned already not to have shipper wars in the Chlark and Clois threads, so I'll hold back for now.

You know for someone who attempts to come across even stephen you are so biased, come on bud?

[liana]

Originally posted by RamonaE
I agree. I think we all have biases that get in the way with our perceptions.

But from my perspective, Clark & Lois did share a moment. I didn't necessarily think it was a romantic moment.

On the other hand I thought Chloe & Clark also had a moment.

But you're right it's all about your perception.

I agree with you. It was the writer's way to give both ships something. It doesn't mean that Clark really has any strong feelings towards either of them. In fact, right now, he is still in the process of getting over his feelings for Lana. Any thing we say about him, right now, is premature. But the PTB left the door open for both ships.

On the other hand, maybe Clark doesn't know what he wants... :rolleyes: It wouldn't really surprise me if that was the case.

[RamonaE]

Originally posted by cotton candy girl
Ok I do admit that Clark seemed to be interested in Chloe, but I just don't think Al/ Miles will have him date cousins. But we know my record with what I think will happen, huh Ramona, lol.

Oh...come on, I understand. You were really upset about Lexana. I understand. It wasn't my favorite thing at first. When they finally brought it about (even though they had hinted at it), I admit I was still surprised too.

[Wildfire]

Guys this season or at least till mid way of it Clark doesnt need to pineing over yet another girl. I mean techanically hes still in the aftermath of Lana (not picking on Clana fan Im just saying his head is a bit still to fresh from pining for her) any girl now that he takes out will be just a rebound.

It will be a while before he can fall for or have those kinds of feelings for anyone else. Clana no matter what we think of it was a five year realtionship, hes not going to be able to start any other road till he deals with than.

Now I have not see the episode yet we dont get CW with out cable at college. My brother taped it I'll look over, but if what the producers say are correct we will see more Clois moments this year ending with possible a realiztinon Clark likes Lois.

But no real sparks or any such realiztion of love should be out now, its just too early.

[RamonaE]

Originally posted by liana
I agree with you. It was the writer's way to give both ships something. It doesn't mean that Clark really has any strong feelings towards either of them. In fact, right now, he is still in the process of getting over his feelings for Lana. Any thing we say about him, right now, is premature. But the PTB left the door open for both ships.

On the other hand, maybe Clark doesn't know what he wants... :rolleyes: It wouldn't really surprise me if that was the case.

I really agree with this post. I think they were throwing bones at both ships. Clark is a slut and he had moment with both Chloe & Lois. :D

[liana]

Originally posted by Wildfire
Guys this season or at least till mid way of it Clark doesnt need to pineing over yet another girl. I mean techanically hes still in the aftermath of Lana (not picking on Clana fan Im just saying his head is a bit still to fresh from pining for her) any girl now that he takes out will be just a rebound.

It will be a while before he can fall for or have those kinds of feelings for anyone else. Clana no matter what we think of it was a five year realtionship, hes not going to be able to start any other road till he deals with than.

Now I have not see the episode yet we dont get CW with out cable at college. My brother taped it I'll look over, but if what the producers say are correct we will see more Clois moments this year ending with possible a realiztinon Clark likes Lois.

But no real sparks or any such realiztion of love should be out now, its just too early.

I agree. He is just too messed up right now.

[myankskent]

Originally posted by RamonaE
You know for someone who attempts to come across even stephen you are so biased, come on bud?

How am I even stephen?

[wb-superman]

Well everyone sure enjoyed that holding hand of Clark and Lois. Now there is a new feeling growing between them which will have Clois's moment.

[RamonaE]

Originally posted by myankskent
How am I even stephen?

You seem to attempt to come across as the voice of reason but in reality you're just as biased as the rest of us.

[FreddyO]

Originally posted by Tomsgurl88
Hell no there was no brother/sister vibe!!!, what the hell are people thinking??? It was hot!!! LOL

We'll just have to agree to disagree then. It sure as heck wasn't "hot", by any stretch of the imagination. Again, I didn't pick up on anything more than foreshadowing a future romance. I don't think it was more than a "moment", and that can mean a lot of things to a lot of people. But it wasn't romantic, and it certainly wasn't filled with sexual tension, IMHO. Sweet perhaps, but that's as far as I'd take it.

And yea, I've got my personal preferences too. But I did watch the show with a completely unbiased person who displayed zero reaction to the scene. I asked my friend if he thought there was anything between Clark and Lois in the scene and he said no. Just a sweet scene between two friends. Nothing more. And that's how I saw it to.

[myankskent]

Originally posted by RamonaE
You seem to attempt to come across as the voice of reason but in reality you're just as biased as the rest of us.

Well maybe that's how you interpret my posts but I think that I have made it pretty darn clear that I don't like Chlark and lexana and I do like Clois. There's nothing even stephen about that. I'm not hiding what I want to see, but I do try to be fair about what I post, perhaps that's why you think that I am being "even stephen".

[imafan411]

Wow, it's amazing how people can see what they want to see in a scene. So many of you here are obviously big EDlois fans and want Clois so bad that you can taste it and see it where it isn't.

The scene was probably foreshadowing, but that's it! There were no sparks, no pining, no nothing. In fact, other than the general, family like care that Clark showed for Lois in the scene (gave me more of a brother sister vibe) there was nothing there. Lois clearly felt funny and a little uncomfortable about how strongly Clark was squeezing her hand, and once she made eye contact with Clark, he realized what she was thinking (that this is "weird") and he immediately let go and gave a little bit of an eye roll. That indicated to me that he was only showing brother/sister type concern to Lois, and nothing else. There's no way the scene was meant to indicate that either of them was feeling anything sexual or even romantic toward each other. It just wasn't there folks. Sorry.

On the other hand, it's clear that Clark was ready to open his heart to Chloe and she blind-sided him with her new found LI, Jimmy. Clark was so ready to explore a relationship with her!


Well I think it's obvious you are a Chloe and Clark fan and thats fine. I just think that the reason it was sort of awkward is because there has always been this heavy attraction but neither of them have said anything about it because it's sort of put into the forbidden pile. It's not suppost to be awkward if your bro and sis and your holding hands after an accident. It's awkward because they both know somethings there and they both know they know somethings there and both know neither will confront each other. DENILE. They will not admit the attraction!;)

[RamonaE]

Originally posted by myankskent
Well maybe that's how you interpret my posts but I think that I have made it pretty darn clear that I don't like Chlark and lexana and I do like Clois. There's nothing even stephen about that. I'm not hiding what I want to see, but I do try to be fair about what I post, perhaps that's why you think that I am being "even stephen".

It just seems like you attempt to come up with convoluded explanations to back up your own biases. It may not be puruposeful, perhaps that's just how you explain things.

IMO

[Wildfire]

Guys Im wondering why we have to have a vibe for one girl or the other right now. . . Geez hes just breaking up Lana! There shouldnt be any sparks with anyone. . . .

Oh well I dont understand why everyone is rushing for imporperly devloped realtionships but oh well. . . .

[Zod in my pocket]

NO NO NO Clois cannot happen in Smallville it undermines the primary dynamic of their adult relationship (at least in it's early stages)
Clois people keep dreaming

[cotton candy girl]

Originally posted by Wildfire
Guys Im wondering why we have to have a vibe for one girl or the other right now. . . Geez hes just breaking up Lana! There shouldnt be any sparks with anyone. . . .

Oh well I dont understand why everyone is rushing for imporperly devloped realtionships but oh well. . . .

This is Al/ Miles. Do you really think they are capable of writing good relationship development?

[RamonaE]

Originally posted by cotton candy girl
This is Al/ Miles. Do you really think they are capable of writing good relationship development?

Nope!

[imafan411]

but if what the producers say are correct we will see more Clois moments this year ending with possible a realiztinon Clark likes Lois.

Oh man I hope so!! More moments of Clois just make me want to watch Smallville more and more! And if we end the season with Clark thinking he might like Lois or does like Lois than I think I will die of pure happiness!!!!!!!!! :p

[paolinki25]

I thought the Clois scene was pretty sweet. If you ask me, I rather see this type of scenes between them then the annoying brother-sister banter.

[cotton candy girl]

Originally posted by Zod in my pocket
NO NO NO Clois cannot happen in Smallville it undermines the primary dynamic of their adult relationship (at least in it's early stages)
Clois people keep dreaming

I think Clark will clearly have feelings for Lois, and I think that's what tptb were trying to portray tonight. I'm not saying they'll be married soon, but I think there was a point to him holding her hand for the first time.


Originally posted by RamonaE
Nope!

Word.

[King of all Media]

Originally posted by Wildfire
Guys Im wondering why we have to have a vibe for one girl or the other right now. . . Geez hes just breaking up Lana! There shouldnt be any sparks with anyone. . . .

Oh well I dont understand why everyone is rushing for imporperly devloped realtionships but oh well. . . .

Really? Rushing? :confused:

So he needs to pine over Lana for another year or two? Is that really what you want? Clark is obviously very vulnerable now and just plain lost with his relationships. He hasn't been there since he hit puberty. He's reaching out, almost desperate right now.

[Coyote]

I would like to see them get married and have a triplets before the series ends, so they'll have to get going.

[myankskent]

Originally posted by RamonaE
It just seems like you attempt to come up with convoluded explanations to back up your own biases. It may not be puruposeful, perhaps that's just how you explain things.

IMO

Well, you're going to have to give me examples of what I do because I really don't see what you are referring to. Maybe you don't like the way I explain myself, but that is something that I cannot change because it is the way that I am.

Let's just drop this because this thread is not about me and the way that I make my points.

[Wildfire]

Originally posted by cotton candy girl
This is Al/ Miles. Do you really think they are capable of writing good relationship development?

And that is what terrifies me about a Clois in smallville. I dont think it can be done right by this writer, and half of what makes them Clois is the good sl developemnt.

Likewise I really wish we could all get off of who he should be with this season and let things progress. 1 They are not going to listen to us any way, and 2 it really is too early for Chlark or Clois at his point.

Honestly at this point he could have a slight realtion with either girl toward the end of the season not before. Sorry but he needs to grow a brain before he starts to date again. Likewise for once I am glad to hear Chole may and I said have a chance for a sl that not involve Clark or her pineing for him 24/7. I really do hope they do something with this Jimmy thing before they kill it, Chole deserves to shine on her own and not as computer or groupie for Clark, shes just too good for that.

Oh and for King of media I hope his pining for Lana never returns but he does need to take a good long look and work on his issues before starting a new realtionship.

[RamonaE]

Originally posted by myankskent
Well, you're going to have to give me examples of what I do because I really don't see what you are referring to. Maybe you don't like the way I explain myself, but that is something that I cannot change because it is the way that I am.

Let's just drop this because this thread is not about me and the way that I make my points.

I wasn't trying to make this a referendum on you. It was just an observation about some of your explanations regarding Clois & Chlark.

And yes, we can drop it.

[liana]

Originally posted by cotton candy girl
I think Clark will clearly have feelings for Lois, and I think that's what tptb were trying to portray tonight. I'm not saying they'll be married soon, but I think there was a point to him holding her hand for the first time.

Of course there is a point: foreshadowing or he is developping feelings towards her. I would say, considering the promos and that ED's interview ago, when she said something about Clark asking himself why he feels that way about the Olliver/Lois relationship, that there is a strong possibility that he will develop feelings for her this season. But, still, it is too early to say anything.

[chole_fan]

Originally posted by Zod in my pocket
NO NO NO Clois cannot happen in Smallville it undermines the primary dynamic of their adult relationship (at least in it's early stages)
Clois people keep dreaming

I completely agree, Clois cannot be fully realized on Smallville.

That said, I do think there will be and should be alot of foreshadowing and, IMO, that is what we saw tonight. They need to stick to playfull banter for now and maybe, at the end of the series, drop larger, more obvious hints at whats to come.

[liana]

Originally posted by Wildfire
And that is what terrifies me about a Clois in smallville. I dont think it can be done right by this writer, and half of what makes them Clois is the good sl developemnt.

Likewise I really wish we could all get off of who he should be with this season and let things progress. 1 They are not going to listen to us any way, and 2 it really is too early for Chlark or Clois at his point.

Honestly at this point he could have a slight realtion with either girl toward the end of the season not before. Sorry but he needs to grow a brain before he starts to date again. Likewise for once I am glad to hear Chole may and I said have a chance for a sl that not involve Clark or her pineing for him 24/7. I really do hope they do something with this Jimmy thing before they kill it, Chole deserves to shine on her own and not as computer or groupie for Clark, shes just too good for that.

Oh and for King of media I hope his pining for Lana never returns but he does need to take a good long look and work on his issues before starting a new realtionship.

I couldn't agree with you more. It is not about him pinning for Lana, but him being alone to grow up. Finding someone will not fix him. Learning to accept himself and his destiny will do the trick.

Then, he will be able to be in a healthy relationship.

[Hugo]

Bring on the Clois foreshawdowing, it's more than welcome sometimes. I don't want to be hit over the head with the fact that they will get together every episode (i.e. Season 4).

[dreamscometrue]

Totally a moment going on in the hospital when Clark takes Lois's hand. He didn't think anything of it, but Lois seemed uncomfortable. I think Lois was comfortable because she has feelings for clark too, only she's afraid to act on them.
Anyone else share my thoughts, or not?

[smallvillecrazygurl04]

It was a cute moment between the both of them, Holding Hands, of course they shrugged it off as if it wasn't nothing.

[liana]

Originally posted by dreamscometrue
Totally a moment going on in the hospital when Clark takes Lois's hand. He didn't think anything of it, but Lois seemed uncomfortable. I think Lois was comfortable because she has feelings for clark too, only she's afraid to act on them.
Anyone else share my thoughts, or not?

No, I don't think so. She was surprised and uncomfortable because Lois is never comfortable about someone invading her personal space.

[newfan]

Originally posted by dreamscometrue
Totally a moment going on in the hospital when Clark takes Lois's hand. He didn't think anything of it, but Lois seemed uncomfortable. I think Lois was comfortable because she has feelings for clark too, only she's afraid to act on them.
Anyone else share my thoughts, or not?

I agree with you 100% on that comment..

[F-Stop Blues]

I'm not worried about Amlies screwing up anything about this show anymore since they pretty much dont run it anymore. Yes they still give the ok on the plot lines but the day to day operations is run by other people now.

[Polomontana]

I think Clark and Lois have very little chemistry. Clark and Chloe have way more chemistry. This is why the Lois character gets so little airtime.

[dreamscometrue]

Originally posted by liana
No, I don't think so. She was surprised and uncomfortable because Lois is never comfortable about someone invading her personal space.

She was comfortable with AC, and Graham. But suddenly when Clark gets close, which wasn't even close if you ask me, she is uncomfortable.

[angelfire east]

She was uncomfortable becuase there are those kinds of feelings there (somewhere) with in her and holding his hand brigns those feelings to the surface more. Other wise why be so uncomfortable at holding you guy friend's hand? Lois doesn't act like she someoen who would be uncomfortable at holding a guy-friends hand. ;):D

[KristinIsAwesome]

I must admit.. they did that rather nicely. They held hands and at first they were both very comfortable with it... even happy to see that they each had compassion for one another.. and then it hit that akward phase as they pulled away.. humorous and yet it was still able to set up a potential romance. I kinda hope they go for it sometime before the show ends. I want to see them get out of the "Sibling" stage where they argue like they are related, and to a place where they actually start liking each other in the relationship sense, even if it never gets there.. I just wanna see them start to entertain the idea somewhat

What are some thoughts?

[InLove_with_Chloe]

Didn't like it.
:mad:

[ginnyfan]

Loved it! I agree with you KristinIsAwesome that it was well done. It was touching and romantic and funny all at the same time. :)

[All about Clark]

Actually I loved it. I may want a short time Chlark, but Clois is much more interesting and entertaining. It's great that she always makes him laugh. I think that Clark was just being warm and caring, but Lois obviously took it a little different. I'm telling you, she is very interested in him or she wouldn't make such obvious reactions. Seems like her questioning her own reactions gets him doing the same thing.

[AlwaysAround]

I absolutely loved it!

Perfect way to set the triangle up. If they have to have those triangles then they might as well do a good job, and it was great!

You could definitely see something there. It's not head over heels "I love you" yet but there is definitely some deep down emotions forming, on both parts I think, but especially on Clark's part. I do think Lois was feeling it as well though.;)

That one scene made the whole episode worth while for me. :D

[j-kent]

Originally posted by All about Clark
Actually I loved it. I may want a short time Chlark, but Clois is much more interesting and entertaining. It's great that she always makes him laugh. I think that Clark was just being warm and caring, but Lois obviously took it a little different. I'm telling you, she is very interested in him or she wouldn't make such obvious reactions. Seems like her questioning her own reactions gets him doing the same thing.


You know 'All about Clark',

that was exactly WHAT I WAS THINKING!

oh, also...we get a few direct quotes from Lois hinting in favor of Clark- not to mention (Lois to Lana on the subject of Clark)- "Someday I hope to marry someone as honorable as Clark". She knows it! ahha

[KristinIsAwesome]

Well im glad to see Im not the only one who enjoyed it.. lets hope they explore this more.. I mean Im sure they will, but hopefully they will take it further than just a hint of things to come...

[Phantazma]

It was a cute moment signaling that the shark is coming closer.

[Khyla]

i thought it was cute and funny, But i thought it was weird that he went and checked up on her first when she was safe in a hospital, rather than going to find out if Chloe was OK first.

[KristinIsAwesome]

He may not have known the extent of her injuries.. maybe Chloe called with details and told him she was ok... maybe.. he is beginning to care for her alittle more than we realize.. I hope that the reason.

[AlwaysAround]

Yeah. After he saved Martha he did go right to her hospital room first didn't he?

HMMMM. Verrrry Interesting.
As far as "the shark" goes . . . I welcome it!

Come here sharky shark. Lois and Clark are ready to go fishing now! :D I'm just getting silly.:p

[shirkie]

That was *the* cutest thing ever... Especially how it took so long for Clark to catch on to Lois' "what the...?" expression!
shirkie

[AlwaysAround]

Originally posted by angelfire east
She was uncomfortable becuase there are those kinds of feelings there (somewhere) with in her and holding his hand brigns those feelings to the surface more. Other wise why be so uncomfortable at holding you guy friend's hand? Lois doesn't act like she someoen who would be uncomfortable at holding a guy-friends hand. ;):D
Exactly.
I couldn't have said it better Angelfire.
;)

[Ghost963]

Originally posted by dreamscometrue
Totally a moment going on in the hospital when Clark takes Lois's hand. He didn't think anything of it, but Lois seemed uncomfortable. I think Lois was comfortable because she has feelings for clark too, only she's afraid to act on them.
Anyone else share my thoughts, or not?
I don't think I would call it 'uncomfortable,' but more 'caught off guard.' Clark showing affection towards her is something that, well, has never happened in a true form. They obviously care about each other in a 'I want to break your neck' sort of way, but to have that same person turn around and show that they truly care about your well being can be a little weird.

I thought that it was a very well done moment for the writers to throw it in. I think that as the season progresses, Clark's attraction for her will develop more into protective first. That would probably be the best way to ease into it.

Great scene though!

[Antithesis]

I liked it, but the Chloe moment after was a bit confusing since he seems to want them both now.

[Jephael]

I was very happy with that scene myself, especially when Lois said that she thought she died and went to heaven.

You can just imagine the potential for a scene in the future where Superman takes her to see the Fortress and she goes "Oh my God, I feel like I've been here before!" You can just imagine the look on his face in a scene like that. Of course the show will never progress that far into the future so we'll just have to use our imaginations.

[Ares]

its fine - idc

[Ares]

No thanks

[CallMeClark]

LOVED IT! want Clois over Chlark now. Chloe didn't go for it at the end. :(

[eas]

Absolutely loved it. It totally seemed like he was happy she was okay and it felt natural for him to grasp her hand. And then (in typical Lois Lane fashion) she glanced down and thought, "what? since when do we do this?" His expression when he looked away from her was priceless. If this is the way "SV" is going to progress with Clois, then it's totally cool with me. I want to them to take it slow & cute. Non-angst is the way to go. And I want Clark to be alone for a bit before he even realizes he has feelings for Lois. This little hints are good for the time-being.

Alternatively, the Chloe/Jimmy/Clark scenes seemed to be a huge "let's discuss the kiss, get it over with, and make it clear that Chloe is with Jimmy." Now I'm not a Chlark shipper, but I do have to say that even I thought that was rather abrupt. Since when does Chloe want to hang out with a guy rather than sit down and get all the details of the PZ from Clark? It seemed natural to me that Clark would feel odd about Chloe's behavior, because she was totally acting out of character. His looks didn't really seem like jealousy to me, but more like, "um...who the hell is Jimmy and since when do you have a life outside of me? And are you giggling? Since when do you giggle?"

At least I hope so -- because I definitely do not want a Clark/Chloe/Lois triangle. That is just wrong on so many levels. Clark cannot fall for both cousins.

[Nerial]

It was cute.

It also gave a hint about how Lois is never freaked out with Clark/Superman. She's always been amazed by his alien origins, never afraid or weirded out. Her reaction to seeing this 'crystal heaven' is a little foreshadowing, I think.

[jimmyolsenblues]

"I Actually Enjoyed The Clark/Lois Moment"

I enjoyed it also. If Jimmy can really love Chloe and Chloe be happy, then I am 100% behind Clois.

[Cage]

I hope that the writers will take into account that the audience does expect Clois eventually -

Green Arrow - will be a hot looking guy but if you remember in season 4 when Lois Lane was introduced, some people wanted Lana out of the way - the way they had to bring Lana along was good though

I hope people don't start "hating" ED for not falling for Clark - if that's what Clark wants.

Cage

[supes0]

Originally posted by eas
His looks didn't really seem like jealousy to me, but more like, "um...who the hell is Jimmy and since when do you have a life outside of me?

That is what I thought too. I thought he was shocked and a little unnerved. He's so used to Chloe loving him from afar, now it looks like that is over. I don't think he's happy about it because it was one thing he could always count on. Now she's moving away from him.

Chloe & Jimmy were great together though, mho.

I liked the Clois moment, it was a sweet way to start the story. :lol:

[amberdawn]

I loved it. And it sorta felt like not only Clark felt something for her, but Lois did too.

[TheOrganizer]

What a great moment!

[F-Stop Blues]

Originally posted by jimmyolsenblues
"I Actually Enjoyed The Clark/Lois Moment"

I enjoyed it also. If Jimmy can really love Chloe and Chloe be happy, then I am 100% behind Clois.

Word, Chloe should be happy for a change.

[eas]

Originally posted by Cage
I hope that the writers will take into account that the audience does expect Clois eventually -

[...]

I hope people don't start "hating" ED for not falling for Clark - if that's what Clark wants.

They shouldn't hate on Lois for not falling for Clark. In fact, I hope that's how it works for a little while. It's the way it's always been in Superman stories -- Clark Kent falls for Lois Lane before she falls for him. I don't think it'll make sense for Lois to fall for Clark until she clears up that Chloe doesn't like him, anymore. She's too loyal to her cousin to let herself feel anything for Clark.

And I do think the writers are taking the "end game" of Clois into account. I think that's actually the only reason that scene was stuck in there. If you think it about it, it made more sense for Lois to have a scene with Martha (like, "thanks for saving my life") or with Chloe ("oh my God, I'm so glad you're okay...") rather than Clark.

But, instead, they went out of the way to show that Clark went to visit her in the hospital. And I do think it should be noted that he went to see Lois before visiting Chloe & completely ignored that Lana was at the hospital at the same time. He does care for Lois and he probably got freaked out when he heard from his mom that Lois almost died.

At least, that was the sense I got from what he says to her after she says she died and came back to life. He grabs her hand and says, with a smile, "well, I'm glad you're back." Then the camera zooms in on the hand-holding and then a shot of them looking confused. It was intentionally shot that way, so the audience couldn't miss that they were having a moment.

And, to me, this isn't foreshadowing for a future relationship. This, imo, is the teeny, tiny step in the right direction for their relationship as it exists within the "SV" verse today. This seems to be the way their relationship developing on the show -- one cute moment at a time! :)


Originally posted by supes0
That is what I thought too. I thought he was shocked and a little unnerved. He's so used to Chloe loving him from afar, now it looks like that is over. I don't think he's happy about it because it was one thing he could always count on. Now she's moving away from him.

Yeah, I kind of felt like this talk with Martha at the end should have had "Chloe" stuck in it, instead of "Lana". I mean, in a way, losing Chloe's focused friendship is a much more of a big deal than losing Lana's love. It'll have a greater impact on his life, because Chloe knew his secret. He could always take Chloe's time and love for granted. For Chloe to go out of the way to brush Clark off should hit Clark hard. If he's jealous (as a friend) of the time Chloe is spending with Jimmy, it makes sense to me. He's never not had Chloe to fall back on.

I do think that this was a clear, definitive, end to Chlark. It doesn't seem like Chloe's going to be pining after him anymore. Yay for Chloe!! She definitely deserves happiness & it seems like the Jimmy/Chloe ship is going to be cute and angst-free. Can't wait to see more.

[wildcat]

I don't know, I didn't like it much. They could have held hands and had that moment of relief WITHOUT the discomfort. What happened was a big deal, the world was falling apart, so they could have just let them connect as friends instead of doing that awkward thing at the end. THat part felt a little forced and silly. His scene with Chloe felt more authentic and fit better into seam of the show/plot.

[D.M.A.]

Originally posted by eas
But, instead, they went out of the way to show that Clark went to visit her in the hospital. And I do think it should be noted that he went to see Lois before visiting Chloe & completely ignored that Lana was at the hospital at the same time. He does care for Lois and he probably got freaked out when he heard from his mom that Lois almost died.

At least, that was the sense I got from what he says to her after she says she died and came back to life. He grabs her hand and says, with a smile, "well, I'm glad you're back." Then the camera zooms in on the hand-holding and then a shot of them looking confused. It was intentionally shot that way, so the audience couldn't miss that they were having a moment.

And, to me, this isn't foreshadowing for a future relationship. This, imo, is the teeny, tiny step in the right direction for their relationship as it exists within the "SV" verse today. This seems to be the way their relationship developing on the show -- one cute moment at a time! :)



Yeah, I kind of felt like this talk with Martha at the end should have had "Chloe" stuck in it, instead of "Lana". I mean, in a way, losing Chloe's focused friendship is a much more of a big deal than losing Lana's love. It'll have a greater impact on his life, because Chloe knew his secret. He could always take Chloe's time and love for granted. For Chloe to go out of the way to brush Clark off should hit Clark hard. If he's jealous (as a friend) of the time Chloe is spending with Jimmy, it makes sense to me. He's never not had Chloe to fall back on.

I do think that this was a clear, definitive, end to Chlark. It doesn't seem like Chloe's going to be pining after him anymore. Yay for Chloe!! She definitely deserves happiness & it seems like the Jimmy/Chloe ship is going to be cute and angst-free. Can't wait to see more.
I assumed he went to lois first since he was in Sv,that's why I thought he went to visit her first.Didn't take it any other way but ur right it was weird he checked on her and lana was there too(Atleast by the convo he had wit martha,he made it sound like lana was still on the brain sumway).As for chlark I don't think it was an end but more of a beginnin,clark has to open his eyes now.Yea he'll notice that he doesn't have chloe to fallback on like before but he'll miss more than just her talks,just like it can be argued that he would miss lois bickerin if sumthin happen to her.I think tptb r playin both sides evenly just in diff wayz,to please both fans of chlark/clois.As for Chlimmy not bein angst what were u seein,I saw jimmy bein intimadated by clark and clark lookin jealous.The only one lookin sumwhat comfortabe was chloe but why wouldn't she,she has 2 guys in her life(She wants 1 and has another right infront of her).It'll be alil angst just not bad as clana,and may be cool to watch.But it definitely won't be a smooth ride if jimmy knows how chloe feels.Plus its goin to take more than 7 episodes from him to convince me chloe moved on and lois has a greenlight.This yr we may get a potential setup of clois,but may get a full on chlark by the end of the season.We'll see tho

[chlarkfan333]

What I found incredibly endearing about the Clois scene is Lois' conclusion that she had died and gone to heaven and Clark's expression following her remark. It was thoroughly enjoyable and very Lois Lane, I think. What I didn't quite get is why Lois looked pointedly at his affectionate gesture? I understand that Clois is being foreshadowed, but that doesn't mean it should be forced. This is just my opinion, btw. Yes, I am and always will be a Chlarker, but I am open to Clois as long as it doesn't seem contrived/forced. I would like to see a very slow and subtle build-up if Clois is where they want to ultimately take it.

[eas]

^^ I think the reason Lois looked pointedly at his affectionate gesture was because it was out of the ordinary for them. Under normal circumstances, Clark would have made fun of her about her time in heaven in an ice palace.

My take is that Lois was thinking, "he's holding my hand. Since when does Smallville hold my hand?" They are definitely not the hand-holding type of friends. And I think she felt something.

I think she is attracted to him & he's attracted to her. And when they touch, because of that attraction, they feel something. So they became uncomfortable because of the feeling. For them to just sit there and hold hands with no change in expression would have felt more forced, to me.

(Feel free to disagree, anyone, because I admit it's the interpretation of a completely biased Clois-shipper.) :)

[wildcat]

Originally posted by D.M.A.
I assumed he went to lois first since he was in Sv,that's why I thought he went to visit her first.Didn't take it any other way but ur right it was weird he checked on her and lana was there too(Atleast by the convo he had wit martha,he made it sound like lana was still on the brain sumway).As for chlark I don't think it was an end but more of a beginnin,clark has to open his eyes now.Yea he'll notice that he doesn't have chloe to fallback on like before but he'll miss more than just her talks,just like it can be argued that he would miss lois bickerin if sumthin happen to her.I think tptb r playin both sides evenly just in diff wayz,to please both fans of chlark/clois.As for Chlimmy not bein angst what were u seein,I saw jimmy bein intimadated by clark and clark lookin jealous.The only one lookin sumwhat comfortabe was chloe but why wouldn't she,she has 2 guys in her life(She wants 1 and has another right infront of her).It'll be alil angst just not bad as clana,and may be cool to watch.But it definitely won't be a smooth ride if jimmy knows how chloe feels.Plus its goin to take more than 7 episodes from him to convince me chloe moved on and lois has a greenlight.This yr we may get a potential setup of clois,but may get a full on chlark by the end of the season.We'll see tho

Exactly how I saw it.

The thing with the Clois foreshadowing is, Superman is the most recognized superhero. EVERYONE knows he ends up with lois, so why do the writers keep dropping anvils/hints? Do they think we're stupid? (I've asked myself this question so many times!)I think it makes the show more bush league, which it shouldn' t be since its the sixth season.


Originally posted by chlarkfan333
What I found incredibly endearing about the Clois scene is Lois' conclusion that she had died and gone to heaven and Clark's expression following her remark. It was thoroughly enjoyable and very Lois Lane, I think. What I didn't quite get is why Lois looked pointedly at his affectionate gesture? I understand that Clois is being foreshadowed, but that doesn't mean it should be forced. This is just my opinion, btw. Yes, I am and always will be a Chlarker, but I am open to Clois as long as it doesn't seem contrived/forced. I would like to see a very slow and subtle build-up if Clois is where they want to ultimately take it.

Again, I totally agree with this too. I thought Clarks reaction was cute and funny too.

I'm not against them having little moments like this. I think its more natural for them esp. considering the circumstances. Everyone almost lost everthing, and I think adding that awkwardness was unrealistic. If I almost died and a friend came to see me I wouldn't look like that if they held my hand. The writers don't have to make them get awkward every single time they have a genuine interaction.

[chlarkfan333]

Originally posted by eas
^^ I think the reason Lois looked pointedly at his affectionate gesture was because it was out of the ordinary for them. Under normal circumstances, Clark would have made fun of her about her time in heaven in an ice palace.

My take is that Lois was thinking, "he's holding my hand. Since when does Smallville hold my hand?" They are definitely not the hand-holding type of friends. And I think she felt something.

I think she is attracted to him & he's attracted to her. And when they touch, because of that attraction, they feel something. So they became uncomfortable because of the feeling. For them to just sit there and hold hands with no change in expression would have felt more forced, to me.

(Feel free to disagree, anyone, because I admit it's the interpretation of a completely biased Clois-shipper.) :)

I like your reasoning as you have outlined in your first two paragraphs. It certainly lends more credibility to that shot. I do however take issue (in a non-confrontational way :) ) with your view that they are attracted to each other. They have been in far more awkward situations (Lois seeing Clark naked, Clark seeing Lois naked, Lois giving Lois a lap-dance) and neither one of them has been anything more than just awkward. Awkwardness doesn't necessarily mean two people are attracted to each other. Many times awkward is just that - awkward. In fact, if we didn't already know that Lois and Clark end up with each other, I'm not so sure as many people would be quick to infer that they are attracted to each other.

I hope people don't dismiss my views right away just based on my shipping preferences. I like to keep an open mind, and really can separate my personal opinions and desires from fact. I'm a scientist in training - it's what I do!

[eas]

Originally posted by D.M.A.
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As for chlark I don't think it was an end but more of a beginnin,clark has to open his eyes now.Yea he'll notice that he doesn't have chloe to fallback on like before but he'll miss more than just her talks,

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As for Chlimmy not bein angst what were u seein,I saw jimmy bein intimadated by clark and clark lookin jealous.

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This yr we may get a potential setup of clois,but may get a full on chlark by the end of the season.We'll see tho

I think that Jimmy/Chloe will definitely make Clark sit up and realize that he can't take Chloe for granted anymore. It'll also force him to start resolving some things on his own and not see Chloe as his "personal research assistant" whenever something goes wrong. At least, I hope so. I think that Clark needs this kick -- not for Chlark to happen -- but, rather, for him to become Superman. It's not even about the ships -- I think he needs to be alone to realize his full potential. And I got that sense from his talk with Martha at the end. That's why I thought he should have said Chloe's name and not Lana.

While I didn't see angst, I can definitely agree that Clark's expressions can be interpreted as 'jealous'. Personally, I thought he was confused more than anything, but I can see how people would read it as a little jealousy. But I thought the scene, as a whole, was cute and funny. "Call me James"... "since when?" "since...um...now-ish." That was funny and cute. The look he gave Clark when Chloe asked Clark was hungry... it was a total, "please don't come with us. I just asked her out on a vending machine date..." I thought it was sweet that Clark picked up on it and sent them along. It was, imo, a cute and lighthearted moment & I sincerely hope it doesn't travel down the angsty path. I would love to have C.K. befriend Jimmy Olsen.

And, finally, yes -- you're right. Chloe could very well end things with Jimmy by mid-season & hook up with Clark at the end of season 7. But I don't think they can set up "seeds" of Clois while having Chlark going on. They really do need to choose one or the other. (Or maybe neither!! :) ) Because that just makes Clark look really confused and out of it. He can't fall for both cousins at the same time.

[Crispin Glover]

It was a great sutle moment of what is to come this season, and beyond. Thankfully it wasn't some crappy cliche, like "I could only hope to in up with someone as kind as Clark."

[D.M.A.]

Originally posted by eas
I think that Jimmy/Chloe will definitely make Clark sit up and realize that he can't take Chloe for granted anymore. It'll also force him to start resolving some things on his own and not see Chloe as his "personal research assistant" whenever something goes wrong. At least, I hope so. I think that Clark needs this kick -- not for Chlark to happen -- but, rather, for him to become Superman. It's not even about the ships -- I think he needs to be alone to realize his full potential. And I got that sense from his talk with Martha at the end. That's why I thought he should have said Chloe's name and not Lana.

While I didn't see angst, I can definitely agree that Clark's expressions can be interpreted as 'jealous'. Personally, I thought he was confused more than anything, but I can see how people would read it as a little jealousy. But I thought the scene, as a whole, was cute and funny. "Call me James"... "since when?" "since...um...now-ish." That was funny and cute. The look he gave Clark when Chloe asked Clark was hungry... it was a total, "please don't come with us. I just asked her out on a vending machine date..." I thought it was sweet that Clark picked up on it and sent them along. It was, imo, a cute and lighthearted moment & I sincerely hope it doesn't travel down the angsty path. I would love to have C.K. befriend Jimmy Olsen.

And, finally, yes -- you're right. Chloe could very well end things with Jimmy by mid-season & hook up with Clark at the end of season 7. But I don't think they can set up "seeds" of Clois while having Chlark going on. They really do need to choose one or the other. (Or maybe neither!! :) ) Because that just makes Clark look really confused and out of it. He can't fall for both cousins at the same time.
Naw I think its cool to play both girls evenly this season,it makes clois more believable when it happens late s7 and makes chlark believable after 5 seasons.Plus its been stated a few times that lois sumwhat looks up to chloe(Tho she's older than her)so maybe chloe will push them together late in the season if she dies in s7.But I don't think its bad that tptb r playin both girls evenly I think they r havin fun wit fans arguin over who's the real lois.As for chlark/jimmy I think it'll angst but the kind like pete/chloe or like jason/lana it'll be a cool relationship for awhile but jimmy will notice how chloe feels for clark.Plus I think the moment clark pulls away from chloe to give chlimmy space she'll want him around more(Yea she's his sidekick but she doesn't want what happen to make things weird either).So yea I think clark will handle things on his own to give chlimmy a real chance but if things don't work out and chloe still wants him I think clark will give it a try late in the season.As for jimmy and clark I think that tension will turn to a friendship,jimmy will always be intimadated but they'll get along.I doubt tptb will have angst and still not have clark befriend him,he's always steppin aside while the women in his life date others.This time will be no diff,he'll try his best to hide his feelings and let them be(Just like jason/lana)but it'll be jimmy that calls things off late in the season.Watch lol,I'm callin it now just like I did the brush off.At that point tho clark/jimmy will be friends and chlark will have the greenlight to explore their feelings.As for clois it'll get closer by the hints but we won't see too much til next s7.Right now tptb r playin things smart imo but I have to see how Oliver intro creates tension first to comment further.Right now it seems fun and harmless but if we'll see once the other triangle comes into play next week.

[eas]

Originally posted by chlarkfan333
I do however take issue (in a non-confrontational way :) ) with your view that they are attracted to each other. They have been in far more awkward situations (Lois seeing Clark naked, Clark seeing Lois naked, Lois giving Lois a lap-dance) and neither one of them has been anything more than just awkward. Awkwardness doesn't necessarily mean two people are attracted to each other.

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I hope people don't dismiss my views right away just based on my shipping preferences. I like to keep an open mind...

:D Thanks for the non-confrontational stance in regards to disagreeing. It's cool. And I'm far from dismissing your views -- in fact, I'm giving them serious thought.

You're right -- Clark/Lois have definitely been in more awkward situations than this & one would think that seeing each other naked (and the lap dance) would factor way higher on the "awkward scale".

The attractions I feel that comes out in their interaction, though, doesn't stem from those "awkward" moments. It stems more from their "genuine" moments and their flirtatious banter. Which, I readily admit, was handled much better in season 4 than in season 5.

The scenes between them in "Spirit" and "Krypto"... or the way Clark gazed at her when she wore the prom gown & he gulped. I've always seen a latent heat in their interactions & the way they look each other. They slide up close to each other when they're talking and the way Lois punches his arm. The glances they exchange and the way Clark laughs when he's around her. And, of course, the infamous dunking scene with the hair ruffle.

I think that since Clois has been handled so poorly in season 5 that sometimes we forget about those little moments between them. But those scenes are there and those are the moments where I feel the heat between them. And this hand holding scene, to me, seemed like an organic "next step" from the sweet scenes we seen between them in the past. I didn't really put this in the same category as the lap dance/naked scenes.


Originally posted by D.M.A.
Right now tptb r playin things smart imo but I have to see how Oliver intro creates tension first to comment further.Right now it seems fun and harmless but if we'll see once the other triangle comes into play next week.

I totally agree with you there. We need to wait to see how Clark reacts to the Lois/Oliver hook up. And we definitely need to see more of Chloe/Clark/Jimmy interaction before we can judge what Chloe and Clark are thinking.

[SmallvilleGirlC]

I loved every second of it... whether it was akward or not...

They are always going back and forth at each other... it was nice to see them hold hands.....

It made me smile....

The whole "I died and went to heaven" was just priceless.....

Just like the whole Clois moment "Oh, and about the lapdance. If you decide to tell anyone about it, your Elmer Fudd nightlight will make a very public appearance!"

How can you NOT laugh...How could you NOT enjoy that Clois moment!

I'm a Clois Fan For Life! I can't wait to see the new love triangle though... it should be exciting!

[eas]

Originally posted by SmallvilleGirlC
The whole "I died and went to heaven" was just priceless.....

Just like the whole Clois moment "Oh, and about the lapdance. If you decide to tell anyone about it, your Elmer Fudd nightlight will make a very public appearance!"

How can you NOT laugh...How could you NOT enjoy that Clois moment!

Agreed. It was exactly like the "Elmer Fudd" night comment... with Clark responding, "aye, aye... sailor." This was a Clois moment that was just like that.

And, yeah, let's bring on the triangle... I'm ready to see where this Clois-hand holding takes us. :)

[Rhoda123]

Clark and Lois moment.. GAG!!! Not feeling it.. although I don't feel those two together either so..

Clark and Chloe moment rocked.. now maybe Clark will see what has been staring him in the face for years... dumba$$ alien..

[chlarkfan333]

Originally posted by eas
:D Thanks for the non-confrontational stance in regards to disagreeing. It's cool. And I'm far from dismissing your views -- in fact, I'm giving them serious thought.

You're right -- Clark/Lois have definitely been in more awkward situations than this & one would think that seeing each other naked (and the lap dance) would factor way higher on the "awkward scale".

The attractions I feel that comes out in their interaction, though, doesn't stem from those "awkward" moments. It stems more from their "genuine" moments and their flirtatious banter. Which, I readily admit, was handled much better in season 4 than in season 5.

The scenes between them in "Spirit" and "Krypto"... or the way Clark gazed at her when she wore the prom gown & he gulped. I've always seen a latent heat in their interactions & the way they look each other. They slide up close to each other when they're talking and the way Lois punches his arm. The glances they exchange and the way Clark laughs when he's around her. And, of course, the infamous dunking scene with the hair ruffle.

I think that since Clois has been handled so poorly in season 5 that sometimes we forget about those little moments between them. But those scenes are there and those are the moments where I feel the heat between them. And this hand holding scene, to me, seemed like an organic "next step" from the sweet scenes we seen between them in the past. I didn't really put this in the same category as the lap dance/naked scenes.



I totally agree with you there. We need to wait to see how Clark reacts to the Lois/Oliver hook up. And we definitely need to see more of Chloe/Clark/Jimmy interaction before we can judge what Chloe and Clark are thinking.

It's such a pleasure when people are respectful and actually consider other people's opinions. Thanks :)

I see your point about Clois not being handled well and therefore moments (like the ones you pointed out) are forgotten. I'm speculating that that's because of the DC restrictions on Clois until SR was released. We're already seeing major hints of Clois.

I'm going to chew over what you said and may be rewatch some of those old episodes with an eye for those scenes. :)

[thehenry89]

now that you've seen what could become of clois does it change your opinon on a lois and clark romance in smallville.

[Daspoo]

They (the writers) have LONG strides left to all of a sudden make a romance between Lois (who is SMOKIN' HOT btw) and Clark believable, considering the way in which they've shaped the characters thus far. IMO

[xrayvision]

This is something that should never happen in this show. Lois is into Superman, not Clark (well not until she finds out that they are 1 and the same). I would like to see them becoming better friends (without being annoying to one another) since it seems like Chloe will be in her own world from now on.

[margroks]

Clark was being compassionate but that's it. There is no precedence for any romance or even much liking between them as they continue to have this annoying brother-sister vibe. ANy romance, besides being forced and the actors having no chemistry at all, would be completly without any build-up and very creepy like incest. Ick.

[~*Lois & Clark Fan*~]

I loved it, best scene of the whole show IMO :D

I love how comfortable they're becoming with each other

[monarchy06]

It was like my fav. part!!! SOOO funny. JUst perfect. What was really cool is the if you think about it, in the season 5 premiere it was lana and clark in the hospital. BUt NOWWWW its lois. Only it was still weird but i think it might be symbolic sorta. Like now clark will be at lois's side not lana's. I also sensed some jealousy form Clark with Chloe. DId anyone else? He started to address the topic but he never said no or yes. SOOO you don't really know how he felt about it. I think he might have some feelings for chloe.
Anyone else??

[AlwaysAround]

Originally posted by margroks
Clark was being compassionate but that's it. There is no precedence for any romance or even much liking between them as they continue to have this annoying brother-sister vibe. ANy romance, besides being forced and the actors having no chemistry at all, would be completly without any build-up and very creepy like incest. Ick.

You have got to be blind not to see the attraction.
I have never held my sisters hand like that and we've never gazed into eachothers eyes like Clark and Lois were.
There is a very clear attraction there and it's definitely not a bother/sister vibe. You have got to be kidding!:rotfl:
It's clearly alot stronger than that.

[~*Lois & Clark Fan*~]

Originally posted by AlwaysAround
You have got to be blind not to see the attraction.
I have never held my sisters hand like that and we've never gazed into eachothers eyes like Clark and Lois were.
There is a very clear attraction there and it's definitely not a bother/sister one. You have got to be kidding!:rotfl:

LOL if I held my brother's hand like that it would be too incesty and just too gross ;) :lol:

[eas]

Originally posted by margroks
Clark was being compassionate but that's it. There is no precedence for any romance or even much liking between them as they continue to have this annoying brother-sister vibe. ANy romance, besides being forced and the actors having no chemistry at all, would be completly without any build-up and very creepy like incest. Ick.

Honestly, I don't see the brother-sister vibe at all. I see two attractive, young adults who know that the other person is attractive. I also see two young adults who no reason to enter into a relationship with each other at this stage. The way they look at each other, the way that Lois punches his arm, the way they smirk and check each other out... well... I don't get the brother-sister vibe. I've got an older brother & I've never acted like that around him. And if my brother ever caught me naked, he'd look away. He would not keep glancing down & then up and then back down again.

And, with this scene, if they were truly feeling like brother/sister than it wouldn't have been weird for Clark to hold her hand. Because that would have been natural for them if she's like his sister. It would have been relief in seeing each other safe. (Although, more than likely, they would have started making fun of each other.) Their discomfort stemmed from them not knowing how to show to each other how they really view each other. It stemmed from them feeling something when they held hands & it gave them pause. And because they just don't do that -- they don't show physical affection for each other. But, now, Clark felt like he could (for some reason, hopefully because Clois is coming.)

At least, that's how I saw it. To each their own. :)

[chlarkfan333]

Originally posted by monarchy06
It was like my fav. part!!! SOOO funny. JUst perfect. What was really cool is the if you think about it, in the season 5 premiere it was lana and clark in the hospital. BUt NOWWWW its lois. Only it was still weird but i think it might be symbolic sorta. Like now clark will be at lois's side not lana's. I also sensed some jealousy form Clark with Chloe. DId anyone else? He started to address the topic but he never said no or yes. SOOO you don't really know how he felt about it. I think he might have some feelings for chloe.
Anyone else??

The similarity b/w the Clana scene you mention and the Chlark scene in Zod is even more striking. Season4-5: Lana gives Clark an end-of-the-world kiss and says she loves him, Clark asks her about it, Lana says she meant it and then he says he does too. In Season5-6: Chloe 'plants one on him', he asks her about it, she dismisses it, and then he dismisses it as well (although clearly not happy about it, or at the least, a little confused).

[eas]

Originally posted by AlwaysAround
You have got to be blind not to see the attraction.
I have never held my sisters hand like that and we've never gazed into eachothers eyes like Clark and Lois were.
There is a very clear attraction there and it's definitely not a bother/sister vibe. You have got to be kidding!:rotfl:
It's clearly alot stronger than that.

Very true -- the eye gazing and the looks they were giving each other is huge. And the look when Clark realized what he was doing and he looked away. He definitely wasn't thinking brotherly thoughts!


Originally posted by chlarkfan333
It's such a pleasure when people are respectful and actually consider other people's opinions. Thanks :)

I see your point about Clois not being handled well and therefore moments (like the ones you pointed out) are forgotten. I'm speculating that that's because of the DC restrictions on Clois until SR was released. We're already seeing major hints of Clois.

Your'e welcome -- and thank you, too.

Yes, I think that they definitely took a giant step back with Lois/Clois because of the DC restrictions. We can only hope that we won't get a re-hash of that in this season. I'm hoping that we'll have a proper build-up and development of Clois over the next two seasons. I don't think that the two of them need to making out in a closet next week -- but I do think that Clark needs to grow up and when he does fall for someone, it should be Lois. I love Chloe, but I don't want her to be with Clark when he's destined to be with her cousin.

[AlwaysAround]

I actually like that Clark has a true friendship in Chloe and not one that can be complicated or messed up like the Clark/Lana relationship has. It's nice that Clark can confide in her without feeling uncomfortable like he would now with Lana.

Why mess up one of the best aspects of the show? Just let them be close friends and leave it at that before it's messed up beyond repair. Leave the romantic vibe and the "feelings" for Clois. We all know it'll happen eventually anyway so why fight it? This is Smallville, a whole new take on the legend were just about anything can happen. :D

[eas]

^^

Agreed!! A huge part of the "SV" world is Chloe/Clark's friendship. I think that Clark needs Chloe as a friend & going anywhere romantic will ruin it. Let's leave the romance for Clois (which is what I think they're going to do).

[chlarkfan333]

It will be very tricky pulling off Clois unless they show that Chloe has moved on for good and is ok with it.

[Naomi]

It's not supposed to happen yet

[EricN68]

"Ships" don't matter a whit to me. All of the relationships are important, and how they ebb and flow over time is the most rewarding part of the show. Any particular one -- no vested interest in a particular outcome.

[LovelyLoisLane]

Originally posted by Antithesis
I liked it, but the Chloe moment after was a bit confusing since he seems to want them both now.

This is what I got from it too.

What was funny is that I also got in both scenes that it was Clark catching something while both ladies were like "meh" It might be a hint that Clark is going to be left odd man out.

Then again maybe not. I never know what the hell is going on with this show. Which is something I have in common with Clark's character, because he never has a clue what is going on either.

One thing . . well okay TWO things I loved about this scene. Clark was actually, truly PLEASANT. For once in about forever he was nice and I had to pick my jaw up off the floor in the sheer shock of it. Not one single snotty comment from him, or Lois either for that matter. The second thing I loved that had zero to do with Clark was Lois' description of her moment at the Fortress and how it was so beautiful and that she thought it was heaven. It made me smile. I do love Lois dearly.

My older sister who I never realised was a HUGE SV Cloiser almost had a heart attack and died during this hand holding scene though, so it scared me, lol. :P

Another thing I agree on is that it was odd, not upleasant but just . . .odd, that he went to go see Lois at the hospital. He must have known that she was okay and was there for treatment, and based on Chloe's reaction to Clark showing up at the Planet later she didn't call him so he had no clue about Chloe. Shouldn't he have maybe gone to see if Chloe was still alive before checking on his former house mate who was just recovering?

Something I forgot to mention that I think a few others in this thread have said . . .this hospital scene seemed very similar in certain ways to the Clana hospital scene in last season "Arrival" which was also a premiere episode.

It felt so similar at first I thought Clark was going to see Lana just as he did in Arrival. This time around he was visiting a different LL though.

Clana had much more romance but the set up of the scene (NOT the dialogue) seemed much a like. Of course it is Smallville Medical Center, not like there's much possibility of a change in scenery. :p However it did feel like "That feeling you can only say in French" ;)


Originally posted by Nerial
It was cute.

It also gave a hint about how Lois is never freaked out with Clark/Superman. She's always been amazed by his alien origins, never afraid or weirded out. Her reaction to seeing this 'crystal heaven' is a little foreshadowing, I think.

I never thought about it but you're right. Previous Lois' have always reacted to Superman with awestruck wonder. Even in LnC Lois referred to him as looking god like. Lois in the movies faints.

Anyway, I loved how romantically she described it. While there wasn't a lot of romance in the scene itself her descriptions certainly were.


Originally posted by eas
^^ I think the reason Lois looked pointedly at his affectionate gesture was because it was out of the ordinary for them. Under normal circumstances, Clark would have made fun of her about her time in heaven in an ice palace.


I don't think Lois' was secretly harboring feelings for Clark. I didn't see her smiling back at him. I think SV's Lois is uncomfortable with displays of affection. She's given hugs before, but they are brief and not all that deep either.

There was a scene that was supposed to air way back in 'Gone" where Clark touched her hand and she jerked it away. (It was in the spoilers at the time but didn't make it to the aired show or a deleted scene) While she didn't jerk it away this time I feel that it was a similar reaction.

I interpreteted her look as "What are you doing?" It was only after he let go that she looked as if she was awkward about it at all.
I don't know, it's hard for me to tell where they are going with this. They change things back and forth so much I feel my head rotating like I'm a stunt actress on a remake of the Exorcist.


Originally posted by chlarkfan333
I hope people don't dismiss my views right away just based on my shipping preferences. I like to keep an open mind, and really can separate my personal opinions and desires from fact. I'm a scientist in training - it's what I do!

I'm a novelist in training, our brains compile in a similar fashion I think. ;)

Personally I LOVE your posts. They aren't nasty, and despite what you like I never feel that you allow that to cloud your view on things. I strive to be that way but know that my dislike for Clark CAN get in the way of my views on his scenes. (I am however proud of myself for seeing past that and enjoying his presence and even *gasp* rooting for him to defeat Zod in this episode)

When people post things like "so and so would be sooooo icky together" or similar things that smack of nothing but bias then I'm more inclined to dismiss them but when they are well thought out like yours and honest without being nasty (not saying things like "You have to be freaking kidding me!") I take them very seriously and I don't know about others but I also enjoy those kinds of posts. :)

Cheers.

[AlwaysAround]

I just think they both realized that they were holding hands and were both kinda surprised is all, and after a minute it felt kinda out of the ordinary for both of them. Sometimes you can be aprehensive towards new things and I think that was what htey both ended up feeling. I thought the pulling away was completely mutual on both parts, but that Clark was kinda hoping for it to last a little longer. I think he definitely wanted to hold her hand a lot longer but even he started feeling a little odd about it when he saw her notice the way he was looking at her with that loving look.

[LovelyLoisLane]

In the words of the Oracle (Would you have still broken the vase if I hadn't said anything?)

Would Clark have let go if Lois hadn't looked at him like that?

[Autumn]

Originally posted by KristinIsAwesome
I must admit.. they did that rather nicely. They held hands and at first they were both very comfortable with it... even happy to see that they each had compassion for one another.. and then it hit that akward phase as they pulled away.. humorous and yet it was still able to set up a potential romance. I kinda hope they go for it sometime before the show ends. I want to see them get out of the "Sibling" stage where they argue like they are related, and to a place where they actually start liking each other in the relationship sense, even if it never gets there.. I just wanna see them start to entertain the idea somewhat

What are some thoughts?

I wasn't a fan of the scene at all actually. I like Lois and Clark, just not as a couple. They have this whole brother/sister vibe.

I also didn't like the scene because I thought the dialogue was dreadful. The whole heaven thing, sorry but I just thought it was bad. It felt like a bit of a lightswitch scene to me. (And generally, any scenes where they point to Lois's future destiny feels like a lightswitch scene)

But I'm glad other people liked it. I didn't.

[Joelito]

As not-fanatic-but-know-at-the-end-is-Clois, I like the scene, but it was too soft to me.

[Autumn]

Originally posted by LovelyLoisLane



When people post things like "so and so would be sooooo icky together" or similar things that smack of nothing but bias then I'm more inclined to dismiss them but when they are well thought out like yours and honest without being nasty (not saying things like "You have to be freaking kidding me!") I take them very seriously and I don't know about others but I also enjoy those kinds of posts. :)

Cheers.

I completely agree with your sentiments. I think we can all disagree respectfully.

I also think it's nicer to read posts that have been well thought out. I hope no one thinks I only dislike the Lois and Clark hand holding scene because I prefer Chlark. I'm also a budding novelist:) and felt the dialogue just wasn't that good.

I didn't mind the hand holding thing. I liked Lois's reaction, because it was more of a "why in the heck is he holding my hand?" kind of look. I agree with the whole idea that she is uncomfortable with phsyical contact.

I don't mind Lois and Clark getting together as long as they don't try and force it too quickly, and as long as they find a way out of the whole brother/sister vibe that's been presented so far. Did anyone else watch that deleted scene where Lois calls Clark her "pseudo-step brother?"

Well anyway, I think we can all agree or disagree and still get along. I don't think we need to personally attack each other for having different reactions or feelings toward something!

[dreamscometrue]

Originally posted by eas
They shouldn't hate on Lois for not falling for Clark. In fact, I hope that's how it works for a little while. It's the way it's always been in Superman stories -- Clark Kent falls for Lois Lane before she falls for him. I don't think it'll make sense for Lois to fall for Clark until she clears up that Chloe doesn't like him, anymore. She's too loyal to her cousin to let herself feel anything for Clark.

And I do think the writers are taking the "end game" of Clois into account. I think that's actually the only reason that scene was stuck in there. If you think it about it, it made more sense for Lois to have a scene with Martha (like, "thanks for saving my life") or with Chloe ("oh my God, I'm so glad you're okay...") rather than Clark.

But, instead, they went out of the way to show that Clark went to visit her in the hospital. And I do think it should be noted that he went to see Lois before visiting Chloe & completely ignored that Lana was at the hospital at the same time. He does care for Lois and he probably got freaked out when he heard from his mom that Lois almost died.

At least, that was the sense I got from what he says to her after she says she died and came back to life. He grabs her hand and says, with a smile, "well, I'm glad you're back." Then the camera zooms in on the hand-holding and then a shot of them looking confused. It was intentionally shot that way, so the audience couldn't miss that they were having a moment.

And, to me, this isn't foreshadowing for a future relationship. This, imo, is the teeny, tiny step in the right direction for their relationship as it exists within the "SV" verse today. This seems to be the way their relationship developing on the show -- one cute moment at a time! :)



Yeah, I kind of felt like this talk with Martha at the end should have had "Chloe" stuck in it, instead of "Lana". I mean, in a way, losing Chloe's focused friendship is a much more of a big deal than losing Lana's love. It'll have a greater impact on his life, because Chloe knew his secret. He could always take Chloe's time and love for granted. For Chloe to go out of the way to brush Clark off should hit Clark hard. If he's jealous (as a friend) of the time Chloe is spending with Jimmy, it makes sense to me. He's never not had Chloe to fall back on.

I do think that this was a clear, definitive, end to Chlark. It doesn't seem like Chloe's going to be pining after him anymore. Yay for Chloe!! She definitely deserves happiness & it seems like the Jimmy/Chloe ship is going to be cute and angst-free. Can't wait to see more.

Totally agree with you there.

[angelfire east]

Originally posted by eas
They shouldn't hate on Lois for not falling for Clark. In fact, I hope that's how it works for a little while. It's the way it's always been in Superman stories -- Clark Kent falls for Lois Lane before she falls for him. I don't think it'll make sense for Lois to fall for Clark until she clears up that Chloe doesn't like him, anymore. She's too loyal to her cousin to let herself feel anything for Clark.

And I do think the writers are taking the "end game" of Clois into account. I think that's actually the only reason that scene was stuck in there. If you think it about it, it made more sense for Lois to have a scene with Martha (like, "thanks for saving my life") or with Chloe ("oh my God, I'm so glad you're okay...") rather than Clark.

But, instead, they went out of the way to show that Clark went to visit her in the hospital. And I do think it should be noted that he went to see Lois before visiting Chloe & completely ignored that Lana was at the hospital at the same time. He does care for Lois and he probably got freaked out when he heard from his mom that Lois almost died.

At least, that was the sense I got from what he says to her after she says she died and came back to life. He grabs her hand and says, with a smile, "well, I'm glad you're back." Then the camera zooms in on the hand-holding and then a shot of them looking confused. It was intentionally shot that way, so the audience couldn't miss that they were having a moment.

And, to me, this isn't foreshadowing for a future relationship. This, imo, is the teeny, tiny step in the right direction for their relationship as it exists within the "SV" verse today. This seems to be the way their relationship developing on the show -- one cute moment at a time! :)



Yeah, I kind of felt like this talk with Martha at the end should have had "Chloe" stuck in it, instead of "Lana". I mean, in a way, losing Chloe's focused friendship is a much more of a big deal than losing Lana's love. It'll have a greater impact on his life, because Chloe knew his secret. He could always take Chloe's time and love for granted. For Chloe to go out of the way to brush Clark off should hit Clark hard. If he's jealous (as a friend) of the time Chloe is spending with Jimmy, it makes sense to me. He's never not had Chloe to fall back on.

I do think that this was a clear, definitive, end to Chlark. It doesn't seem like Chloe's going to be pining after him anymore. Yay for Chloe!! She definitely deserves happiness & it seems like the Jimmy/Chloe ship is going to be cute and angst-free. Can't wait to see more.

I agree ^

[chlarkfan333]

eas and lovelyloislane thank you so much. :)

I could really come around to Clois, if it's done tastefully, of that I'm confident. Chlark will always be the ship I want to see most, true, but Clois holds much promise, IMO.

Truth be told, posters like you help keep that reflexive gag response Clois used to elicit (for me) at bay. :) You know how it can be......

BTW, I didn't start shipping Chlark until after 'Vessel', would you believe it? I was ship neutral till then though I always liked friendly Chlark (kinda of, I'm tired of Clana, truly).

Here's hoping at least one of our ships sees some fullfilling progression!

[SlickBlonde]

I honestly haven't felt the brother/sister vibe between Clark and Lois in a long time. They flirt with each other. They look at each other just that few seconds longer than platonic friends do. Both Chloe and Lana have taken obvious notice of the vibe between them. Lana when she first got back from Paris and commented on how quickly she AND Clark had moved on, and Chloe in the dunking scene. Yeh they bust each other chops like siblings do, but the flirtation is too much to be ignored.

And as far as the awkwardness in the bedside scene. I disagree that Lois is afraid of physical affection. She seemed fine with it in Aqua, and in any other scene where someone male or female has affectionately touched her. I think that awkwardness is specific to Clark. And bottom line she wouldn't feel uncomfortable with him touching her if she really felt like a sister to him. If anything the awkwardness is a result of the dissonance she feels between THINKING that he should be like a brother and FEELING that he is probably much more.

[demongene]

I loved it,hope they hook up Im tired of the clana!

[dreamscometrue]

Originally posted by angelfire east
She was uncomfortable becuase there are those kinds of feelings there (somewhere) with in her and holding his hand brigns those feelings to the surface more. Other wise why be so uncomfortable at holding you guy friend's hand? Lois doesn't act like she someoen who would be uncomfortable at holding a guy-friends hand. ;):D

Totally agree with you.

[Ireallylikethisshow]

I liked it. It was funny, and kind of sweet.

[smallvillecrazygurl04]

I loved it, I liked how Clark held onto her hand, and Lois realized what he was doing and gave him alittle look. Then he realized what he was doing & Pulled away, I thought that was such a tender moment they shared.

[Lostfan588]

Originally posted by FreddyO
Wow, it's amazing how people can see what they want to see in a scene. So many of you here are obviously big EDlois fans and want Clois so bad that you can taste it and see it where it isn't.

The scene was probably foreshadowing, but that's it! There were no sparks, no pining, no nothing. In fact, other than the general, family like care that Clark showed for Lois in the scene (gave me more of a brother sister vibe) there was nothing there. Lois clearly felt funny and a little uncomfortable about how strongly Clark was squeezing her hand, and once she made eye contact with Clark, he realized what she was thinking (that this is "weird") and he immediately let go and gave a little bit of an eye roll. That indicated to me that he was only showing brother/sister type concern to Lois, and nothing else. There's no way the scene was meant to indicate that either of them was feeling anything sexual or even romantic toward each other. It just wasn't there folks. Sorry.

On the other hand, it's clear that Clark was ready to open his heart to Chloe and she blind-sided him with her new found LI, Jimmy. Clark was so ready to explore a relationship with her!

Tru dat! lol...i think the clois scene was funny its always fun to watch those 2 together - but i def get a brother sister vibe from the two of them and i think they just throw in these little lines and stuff j to appeal to both sides and keep up the chlois vs. clois debate... it seems kinda obvious clark was j trying to b a good friend to her and she didnt show any interest at all in him more like disgust really, the look on her face looked more like he was crushing her hand w his superstrength or something i sense no sexual tension lol....on the other hand in the clark/chloe/jimmy scene there was def some tension, clark looked really hurt and def surprised when he realized about jimmy and chloe...the way he responded after she said "its not like im expecting us to hook up"...its obvious he was disappointed the tone in his voice gave it all away ...this is def setting up for a chark/chloe/jimmy love triangle later in the season its gonna b really entertaing watching theyre scenes together...although i think the writers are going to keep us wondering who the real Lois Lane of smallville is up to the very end of the series

[Tomsgurl88]

I was LOVING it and i would LOVE some more Clois loving baby!!!

[last man of krypton]

Originally posted by EricN68
"Ships" don't matter a whit to me. All of the relationships are important, and how they ebb and flow over time is the most rewarding part of the show. Any particular one -- no vested interest in a particular outcome.

Ditto. Given the suspense, action and drama of this episode without any of the angst I'm happy to never see another 'ship again.

[ajfinn]

I find it interesting that so many Smallville fans don't want Clois to happen in Smallville. I know the powers that be won't listen to us though. Clark and Lois just don't jive together, romantically, on Smallville. IMO. They are like brother and sister to me, so hello ........ didn't know I was watching THAT kind of show.

[Cardinal]

First off, I'll identify my bias. I ship Clana. Always have, always will.

Next, on to what I have to say. A bomb factory in Iraq has more chemistry than the Smallville version of Clark and Lois. I LOVED Clois on the TV show Lois and Clark, and even liked it in Superman 1 and 2.

But here, in Smallville, it doesn't work. Never has, never will.

[thehenry89]

i have to disagree ed and tw have really great chemistery. not as good as tw and am but it's deffintly there. for the record i don't really want to see clark and lois make out or nothin but i would like to see some feelings develope this season. im sick of the "your annoying smalliville" crap it's really old. in the begging of season 4 it was enjoyable but now its redundant.

[eas]

Originally posted by chlarkfan333
eas and lovelyloislane thank you so much. :)

[...]

Truth be told, posters like you help keep that reflexive gag response Clois used to elicit (for me) at bay. :) You know how it can be......

You're welcome. And, honestly, it's posters like you that makes a tiny part of me wish that Chlark does happen. Because I think you all are right -- it has been 5 years of jerking around with the annual kiss. You guys deserve to see something come of it. So I can understand the frustration as far as Chlark is concerned. (Cloisers have a lot of frustration, too, but it's for different reasons. It's 'cuz they never give us a kiss. :lol: )


Originally posted by chlarkfan333
Here's hoping at least one of our ships sees some fullfilling progression!

Amen to that!! :)


Originally posted by Autumn
I didn't mind the hand holding thing. I liked Lois's reaction, because it was more of a "why in the heck is he holding my hand?" kind of look. I agree with the whole idea that she is uncomfortable with phsyical contact.

Did anyone else watch that deleted scene where Lois calls Clark her "pseudo-step brother?"

Yes, I definitely got that sense from her. I really saw her thinking, "why is Clark holding my hand? Since when do we do that??" But I don't know if it was only because she doesn't like physical contact. She didn't have that same reaction when he touched her on the shoulder in "Aqua". She was cool with that. So there was something more to her whole, "let go of my hand, Smallville!" attitude, I think.

I do think that he wouldn't have let go if she hadn't given him that look. Imo, he looked quite comfortable holding her hand until she gave him the look.

I did see that deleted scene. I know that she used the term "pseudo-step brother" but I didn't see it as, "I see him as my brother" kind of reference. She was talking to Martha about how great it was to have a mom again. Within that scenario, Martha's son would be like her step-brother. And, in true Lois fashion, she was the one who brought Clark up in the conversation. I saw it more as an example of how she can't help but talk about him, even when he's not there.

It kind of reminded me of a little girl having a crush on a guy & wanting to talk about him to his mom -- but she can't reveal that she likes him, so she makes a sardonic comment, instead. At least, that's what I got out of it. But, I admit, I'm completely biased, so I could have been projecting something onto it that makes no sense.

Honestly, I do think that if she didn't care about him or was unaware then she just wouldn't have mentioned him at all. She does the same thing in the other deleted scene with Martha -- from "Fade". Lois brings up Clark and tells Martha that Clark needs to get over Lana. Like the scene from "Vessel" it's Lois that brings up Clark, not Martha.

[Lobby4Chloe]

At least once in the series before it ends, I want Clark to ask her out and have her shoot him down. To be really funny, they should start doing it alot. That would be funny. They wouldn't even have to get them together and I would be happy. I'm a traditional Lois and Clark fan outside of the SV universe.

[Chokito]

yeah i thought it was funny too

[dreamscometrue]

Agreed

[Lostfan588]

NO WAY... im still rooting for a chlark ending...nothing against lois at all i think her and clark have some great scenes together always really funny to see them bicker at each other...but i dont see the chemistry between them really def a siblinglike vibe and there hasnt been much buildup for sexual tension at all between the two except for the occassional random lines they throw in every so often to keep up the debate and confusion, as compared to 5 years of chlark tension- chloe being in love w clark all this time and clark not being able to get over lana, and now that chloe has finally decided she cant wait on clark forever, we are finally starting to see things turn around and clark realize he has some feelings for chloe too so i think thats def a sign of things to come i think im gonna like the charkimmy triangle or watevr the heck its called lol

[Phantazma]

The spark of love was there in the hand holding moment.

[imafan411]

I just hope that we see more progress with Lois and Clark. That always makes me happy! Even a little hand holding makes my heart float!!!:D

[lilkoolmaria]

Haha, well I've alwaysloved Clois, so...nothing has changed for me.

[SeanZo]

No because we'll see plenty of it in the Superman movies.

[Smallville is the best]

I think that it would be cool if Lois and Clark hook up together and then Clark can tell Lois everything because she would understand him and would never betray him. That would be awsome! Lois is hot!

[that girl]

I've been looking forward to Clois for a while, so I can't say Zod changed my mind in that respect but I am thinking it might be a possibility for S6 now, which I had pretty much given up on since I say the Jimmy/Chloe/Clark interaction in the trailer. So, I voted for "not really."

[smallvillerocks45]

Surprisingly, I liked it too. It was a well acted moment.

[Slytherin Princess]

i LOVED that scene. this episode was filled with a lot of couples, Clois/Lexana/Chimmy! oooh! let's have one big orgy. ^_^

[smallvillerocks45]

You know, it was kind of nice seeing someone that Chloe could actually be with. Chimmy could work for me....:D

[DorothyFan1]

Am I too late to join the fun? Chlark is dead...long live Clois. Why am I not surprised Al/Miles decided to pull the rug out from under the Chlarkers? The show is nearing the end and they have to disillusion the fantasy that Chloe is Lois Lane in waiting.

Now...if only Erica Durance' contract status could be upgraded from the 13 to the full 20 or 22 episode commitment...and then we're talking a loud hint from TPTB that EDLois is the real deal and not AMLois.

[MartaDolo]

The moment itself was fine, but it wasn't romantic and really wasn't a particularly big moment. If anything it emphasised that Clark and Lois still aren't at a place where they'll start to "notice" each other. But it was nice to hear Clark say he was glad she was okay.

The scene, short as it was, felt really rushed. ED was like, racing through her lines.

[smallvillerocks45]

...but that line about heaven was pretty nice....

Well, at least I thought so. I don't know if it's just me, but it kind of felt like this episode set a precedent (for lack of a better word). Even though emotionally Clark feels lost at the moment, the events that took place in this episode are really going to have a good effect on him in the long run (at least, I hope that is the case - Lois and Clark love connection included) .

[hedi sweet thighs]

I to think the writers are leading in the right direction (finally) now since Clark sees that Chole is moving on he knows that he needs some one in his life it was sad how when he was speaking to his mother how everyone that he has cared about is moving on.when he went to the hospital the way he held Lois hand was full of compassion,He should be sensing how much she cares for him she loved his family also ,she has risked her life for others also.By the way Is it me or did Lana look pregnant ?She had the jacket on and the cameras only showed waist up?

[chlarkfan333]

Originally posted by DorothyFan1
Am I too late to join the fun? Chlark is dead...long live Clois. Why am I not surprised Al/Miles decided to pull the rug out from under the Chlarkers? The show is nearing the end and they have to disillusion the fantasy that Chloe is Lois Lane in waiting.

Now...if only Erica Durance' contract status could be upgraded from the 13 to the full 20 or 22 episode commitment...and then we're talking a loud hint from TPTB that EDLois is the real deal and not AMLois.

With all due respect (and keep in mind I am not a Chloiser), Chlark is hardly dead and unless you are privy to what's going on inside TPTB's minds or are in some form clairvoyant or have travelled into the future, don't call Chloisers delusional. It's really quite unkind and a bit sneaky since chances are many of them don't visit Clois threads and can therefore not defend themselves.

If Chlark were dead, Clark would have been relieved when Chloe brushed off the kiss and he clearly wasn't.

So, as it stands, we now have Clois foreshadowing in addition to Chlarkers' chains being yanked.

eas I think you might get your Clois kiss yet, I really do. :) I'm guessing based on ED's comments that it won't be in the first half of the season, but I do think that it will happen sometime toward the end.

[chlarkfan333]

Lol, I think TPTB are going to milk Clois and Chlark for all their worth...and why not? They are both enjoyable ships to watch (as they stand now).

[Kal-ed]

The fact is I really didnt get the dissapointment everyone took from Clark when Chloe brushes him off, really I just saw shock and ok yeah a littly tiny glimps of WTH but IMO it doesnt mean that he wanted more, he was just shocked

I mean he knows the girl has been in love with him since like forever, and the kissed a couple of hours (maybe a day) before so, the fact that he thought he would have to have a conversation, explaining he didnt feel that way about her, yada yada yada, and then suddenly he gets hit by Chloe´s indiference to what had happened he was shocked and whats more, Im sure the feeling of loosing your safety net, is not at all a pleasent one.

Clark has always been scared to be alone probably his worst fear, and Im sure that in the back of his head, he was sort of counting on Chloe if he Lana didnt work out and he never found a nother girl, than he would have Chloe to fall back on, kind of that chapter in Friends, where they all, choose their safety net, that if by 35 both were unmarried (well I dont remember what age they said, im just guessing) than they would marry each other.

Plus theres the ego side of it all. I remember when I was in 9th grade there was this girl from 7th grade that had a huge crush on me, she used to have her driver drive by my house and she screamed my name and say I love you, I was flattered yes, but I had my own crush so never really gave her that much importance, anyway, that whent on for the better part of the school year, but by finals she started dating some guy from 7th grade as well, and needless to say, i was kind of dissapointed, not that I loved her, and not that I wanted her to have a crush on me and only me forever, its just how ego works. I think thats what was going on in Clarks mind.

I know I always come with some personal stories and well I know that nobody is thrilled of reading my life experiences, but when I want to use an example from real life, well the only life I know what really went on was mine, so I tend to use it, more than the usual, but I hope it at least helps make my point a lot more clear.

And sorry for the off topic, but had to address this Chlark issue. Cause the fact that they had that scene right after the hand holding in the hospital thing, just made the whole Clois thing less meaningful (not that it is not still meaningful, cause it is). they chose bad sequence, they could have had that scene next epi or something, Thank god the Clark/Chloe/Jimmy scene wasnt BEFORE the Clois scene, cause then it would just look rebound, Lois as a last resort.


I liked all 3 scenes (Clois hospital, Chlarkmmy, and Clark talking about Lana with Martha) but to be honest it is three consecutive Clark scenes that see him, having strong feelings for Lois (not love, but possibly romantica) strong feelings for Chloe (possibly romantical) and then again comes Lana (not over her) so I ask, what are us viewers are suposed to get from all this????

Its unethical or plain bad writting, the fact that they addressed his feelings for the 3 lead ladies in the last 10 minutes of the season premiere.

[thehenry89]

i have conflicted feelings on this issue as i really love chloe and clark as a couple but i'm also a hard core cloiser. i think that clark and chloe should work their feelings for each other out and either move on or hook up but the constan one step forward two steps back they seem to do on this show goes nowhere.

[Spirit Detective]

Clois is looking to be a long and bumby ride.

[Farm_Girl]

Clark's whole life is in transition in at this moment romance is not different. He is finally getting over his childhood crush and learning that his best friend may also have someone else in her life and she will no longer be there!

Now amidst all the argument about whether Lois should or shouldn't be on the show, Lois sucks, she is the obstacle between Clark/Chloe and the funniest of all, Chloe is Lois, the fact remains that in mythos and all incarnations, Clark ends up with Lois..

Clark is embracing his destiny in all respects, and since unfortunately for some, Lois already is on the show, I think Clark should now move towards the real relationship of his life, that is Lois..

[Theshadow129x]

thing is we all know how this story is going to end anyways and i think Clois is what the powers that be has been working up to since Clana ended last season. i think they want to establish the relationship that is Clark and Lois lane now instead of us filling the holes in after the show is over with.

[cotton candy girl]

Originally posted by TheOrganizer
What a great moment!

Agreed.

[supes0]

I think Clark should now move towards the real relationship of his life, that is Lois.. [/B]

I agree. Enough with the angst, the doom/gloom shipping. I'd like to see some movement towards joy, their final destination as a couple.

[Insight]

Good moment. But you have to feel for Clark. His life is in a transition and the ones he's been close to seem to be moving away from him.

[Kal-ed]

As much as I enjoyed the scene, they might as well not have put it in at all, if they were going to put that scene with Chloe and Clark.

It made the whole clois scene so less meaningful. It just shows a desperate Clark, trying to find a couple where ever he can.

If they are going the Clois path go for it, if they are not, then dont, but please I dont want Clois to become like Chlark, just a distant semi-posible relationship, that never gets nowhere but never really gets dissmised. In the show that is, we know how Clois ends up, but if SV is not going to do it, then just stick to the anvils but dont show hand holdings and stuff like that if they dont mean it. Its like the seasonal, Chlark kiss, what is the point of those kisses if things are never getting anywhere. Cause if its just to tease chlarkers than that´s just mean.

[Farm_Girl]

Originally posted by Kal-ed
As much as I enjoyed the scene, they might as well not have put it in at all, if they were going to put that scene with Chloe and Clark.

It made the whole clois scene so less meaningful. It just shows a desperate Clark, trying to find a couple where ever he can.

If they are going the Clois path go for it, if they are not, then dont, but please I dont want Clois to become like Chlark, just a distant semi-posible relationship, that never gets nowhere but never really gets dissmised. In the show that is, we know how Clois ends up, but if SV is not going to do it, then just stick to the anvils but dont show hand holdings and stuff like that if they dont mean it. Its like the seasonal, Chlark kiss, what is the point of those kisses if things are never getting anywhere. Cause if its just to tease chlarkers than that´s just mean.

I enjoyed this scene as well as the Chloe/Clark scene, and both were well written and natural, neither lessens the importance of the other one..

Because, Clark's caring for Lois and holding her hand came out of a subconsciousness, he himself wasn't aware that he was showing her this gesture of care, which is why the expressions that followed the hand holding were so befitting and hilarious.

His reaction to Chloe was that of a surprise, and didn't Chloe surprise us all, look at her expressions in that scene, she is not trying to make Clark jealous at all, she is just at ease with Jimmy, I love Allison in this scene, and no way does it ruin the Clark/Lois moment that happened earlier.

I don't think Clark is desperate to hook up with the first girl he sees. So much is going on in his life, that he doesn't even want to go there. It will just happen for him, without his knowing, just like he held Lois's hand without knowing or thinking...

Sorry for the long post :(

[Katarite]

I enjoyed the hand-holding scene and feel that it is a step in the right direction. I'm just starting to read the comics, but I have avidly watched every incarnation of Superman on the big and little screen save for the original, which I hope to watch soon. Lois is Clark's destined love in every version, and I don't think it should be any different on SV. However, I don't think they should have a full blown relationship either. I rekognize SV as an alternate universe beginnings series, like Teen Titans and X-Men: Evolution, so I don't mind the fact that Lois is there early and sort of helping Clark to realize his destiny, but I think that the series should bring them closer and then leave them at a level where they are more than friends, but far from lovers.

I did notice that in season four there was a lot of chemistry between the characters, but in season five it was toned waaaaaay down. I really hope that they bring it back in season six and show that these two characters have the potential to fall in love one day.

And finally, with Lois' comment about heaven I couldn't help but imagine a scene far in the future where Clark takes her to the fortress and she looks at him seriously and says "Oh my God, we're dead. This is my ice palace! That light in the cave, it killed us!"

Wow, thats's a lot to say in my first post! But, I had to talk to someone about Clois. My sister just rolls her eyes whenever I mention it and no one else will listen :-P.

[alienkinfolk]

Since S4 i've been trying to rationalize why Lois is even on the show. But since then, I've come to except her characters' presence in Smallville.
Just like I've would of never seen Zod coming last season, it goes to show ya that tptb are just going to throw the whole kitchen sink in, from the comics and movies and just jumble it all together.
I am not siked about a Clois ship yet but I am willing to see them get out of the junior high school phase of their friendship. I see potential to some good Clois heart to heart moments.

[Farm_Girl]

Originally posted by Katarite And finally, with Lois' comment about heaven I couldn't help but imagine a scene far in the future where Clark takes her to the fortress and she looks at him seriously and says "Oh my God, we're dead. This is my ice palace! That light in the cave, it killed us!"

Yes, absolutely right! Future Lois was forshawdowed in this scene.

Just wish they don't ruin it and bring on more Clark/Lois!!!

[Gwen]

I really liked it too, especially when Lois says its like she died and when to heaven and Clark smiles :) the hand holding was sincere but awkard but well, I guess its gonna take some time. I hope we get more Clois moments :D

[Farm_Girl]

^^^ Impatiently waiting Gwen..

[D.M.A.]

I like clois,not romantically but I like them wit their bro sis vibe.Its a comic relief imo,both lash out at each other but in a playful manner.If tptb wanna make them get closer be my guess,cause they aren't really friends in my book yet they just have to put up wit each other.So if tptb wanna get them alil closer to bein friends first before startin a relationship cool.Atleast from the premiere it looks like it would be funny to see them try to get along without arguin lol.Do I want to see them have a relationship on this show no,since I luv their sibiling type rival.Hopefully tho tptb don't go the clois route at the end and maybe give us sum chlark sumwhere.Cause after seein the premiere I can see that happenin first,but can't knock the clois moment tho.

[BeldarofRemulak]

I do love lois as a character, especially when she interacts with Chloe and Clark, but I can't see Clois right now...if Clois were to be (in Smallville) there would have to be some major event pushing them together and Chloe out, because right now Chloe is the "lois" of Smallville (not to say chlois is going to happen..which I do want lol)

[velocity]

I hate do admit it, but yes it had me smiling.