Clark VS Zod

[Pal-El]

Was it everything you expected?
More importantly, was it better than the fight in Arrival?

[superhippie2000]

i havent seen it cause it didnt air only 2 more days yay. but based on the trialers it looks alot better then arrival. i mean zod throws clark down into a rock thats more action right there.

[Kalel x2x2]

When the show airs i think i might know =]

[Pal-El]

^^ Well THATS when you post in this thread then, comprende?:\

[superhippie2000]

no you have to post before hand so you can be first to comment so you need a time machine and then come back and then spill the beans and bla bla bla

[vyperman7]

I am sorry, but I am MAJORLY skeptical about the fight between Clark and Lod.

They only have 40-42 minutes to work with in the episode, and everything has to be wrapped by the end of it. There won't be a multi-episode arc. So that means that they have to fit in Clark escaping from the PZ and defeating Zod, along with JO, Chloe/Lionel's safety, Lois/Martha in the plane, and everything with Lod and Lana all in one episode. That is a lot to fit in.

So taking that into consideration, how much time is there really going to be, to give us a good solid fight?

Unfortunately, I have to predict that we will get another fight that is five minutes or less. With the acception of the Chloe/Lana fight in Delete, I have never really been that satisfied with the fights on Smallville. The fight that had the most potential was Clark vs The Duke in Phoenix, but that was too damn short.

[superhippie2000]

my guess is that the clark gets out in the first half and the interaction with zod will be between 30 minutes in and 45 minutes in

[Kryptonian-Ronin]

The fight will last as long as Clark's love life, about 30 seconds.

[Pal-El]

I personally thought the Clark vs JK was about right in length. Wouldnt complain if it was a little longer..;)

If we get a similar length fight - Clark and Zod, but with more action, (plus Zod probably HATES Clark so that should make things interesting) Ill be satisfied.

But I am preparing to be disappointed Arrival style:(

[superhippie2000]

there is more fighting in the previews then there was in arrival lol

[vyperman7]

Originally posted by Kryptonian-Ronin
The fight will last as long as Clark's love life, about 30 seconds.

:lol:

HOLY CRAP that was hilarious!!!!

"Faster than a speeding bullet".. :lol:

But seriously though, it will be a short fight just like all the other fights have been.

[Pal-El]

Originally posted by superhippie2000
there is more fighting in the previews then there was in arrival lol
I dont know, I remember some big spoilers about the fight in Arrival.

Clark had a supposed new move, and there was some throwing around of army equipment supposed to happen...

[D.M.A.]

Originally posted by Kryptonian-Ronin
The fight will last as long as Clark's love life, about 30 seconds.
:lol: funny


Originally posted by vyperman7
:lol:

HOLY CRAP that was hilarious!!!!

"Faster than a speeding bullet".. :lol:

But seriously though, it will be a short fight just like all the other fights have been.
Even funnier :rotfl:

[warriorrenegade]

I saw a little teaser of the Lexod/Clark fight on the TV guide channel this morning. From what was shown, it looks good. I think we may actually get the "Superfight" some of us have been waiting for.

[Pal-El]

Ooooh excited for the big showdown!

[Kalel x2x2]

Dayum!!!!!

[Altephor]

*Cry* I wanna watch ittttttttt! But I missed the first half hour (damn lab!) and I won't watch until I can see the whole thing.

[AnimeJoe]

Zod literally punched his face in :D, I was soo cheering Zod on :D

[Remus]

Heh. Zod pwning Clark makes good TV. XDD

But the ending was just like: o_______o;

[DarkKnight32]

That was a Bad A$$ fight scene..was it the best...aww...well...not too sure...but indeed very good. I too, for a split second was cheering for the bad guy.

[D.M.A.]

I can honestly say Lex made me proud today,I've always wanted him bad(Even if it was Zod).And that fight was cool he manhandled clark lol

[MBCorp]

That fight was a whole lot better than I thought it was going to be. I was expecting something kind of lame but instead it was actually pretty cool.

[Deana]

Clark got his butt beat this episode. I look at it as my frustrations with him being manifested on the screen.

After all that, I'd take some self-defense classes. <.<

[F-Stop Blues]

I'm glad Zod actually threw a punch. We always get these 30 feet chucks which bore the hell out of me.

[thehenry89]

it was alittle anti-climatic

[Ireallylikethisshow]

I LOVED IT! *freaks out and jumps excited*

[Coyote]

It was great. Zod owned Clark. KNEEL BEFORE ZOD, BOY!!! Only problem is that it was too short. I hope Zod comes back and does it again.

[vyperman7]

Thought I would resurrect this to get more discussion on the fight going. I haven't seen it yet, but from what I have heard it was short and one sided.

[savingpeoplething]

I was MAJORLY disappointed in the Clark vs. Zod fight.

Don't get me wrong, the fact that they were fighting while flying was pretty cool, but it was pretty much one-sided.
Zod was puttin' the hurt on Clark and all Clark did in response was put the S shield in his hand?

I was REALLY hoping Clark would fight back...

It just seemed WAY too short and not enough Clark fighting for himself.

[smallville86]

Did anyone notice when Zod was punching Clark in the face how after a few punches Clark spits ALOT of blood out onto his cheek. After he finally gets up their is less blood and he wipes it away. I thought Clark couldn't bleed!?

[thehenry89]

sure he can if he's gettin a kryptonian ass whoopin

[WangTang]

if a superpowered Kryptonian is hit hard enough buy somebody with equal or superior strength, they will bleed and or if they are hit fatally they will die.

[freddielm]

That's what I thought too, but he can bleed if he gets beat by a Kryptonian, look @ what happened when Raya kicked him.

[Ticket2theMoon]

He's not completely invulnerable, just REALLY resistant. But Zod, obviously, is a match for him. So he drew blood. Clark healed almost immediately, though, you'll notice.

[MBCorp]

I guess I had low expectations because I was pleasantly surprised by how much I enjoyed the Clark vs. Zod fight. It was alot better than I was expecting.

[Coyote]

Zod totally humiliated Clark. It was a man against a boy, basically. I very much enjoyed seeing Clark get his butt beat, but I do wish it had lasted longer. The FX were really good quality though, so if it had lasted 15 or 20 minutes the whole years budget would probably have been shot. KNEEL BEFORE ZOD, CLARKY!!! And Clark actually did it. Zod rules!

[vyperman7]

It is fights like these that make me appreciate Buffy the Vampre Slayer even more. For those that have seen the show look back on the fight between Buffy/Faith in Graduation. If only Smallville could put on fights like that one. I haven't seen the fight yet, but from what I have been hearing it seems like it was basically just a one man show of Zod beating Clark down. Oh well. :(

[smallville86]

I agree it was a good fight but it would be nice if Clark could actually fight back for once. Whenever he fights kryptonians he sucks the entire time and then he tricks them somehow...

[mortalclark]

I think that the Clark/Zod fight was AWESOME given what time they had to wrap up everything. It was spaced out perfectly.

Think about it, Clark knew he had to fix things, FAST, or there would be no world to save.

He tracked Zod down and they fought, he knew how he had to get that crystal on Zod, he did it. It was a great fight and poor Clark got the $*%$&U%^ knocked out of him.

Now, who else thinks that when Zod knocked Clark out the window and they were in mid-air, that he wasn't the only one trying to control the flight???

[jimmyolsenblues]

it was the greatest fight ever on smallville, but i wish there was more.

zod punching clark and the rock breaking was a fantastic fight scene.

[thehenry89]

Originally posted by Kryptonian-Ronin
The fight will last as long as Clark's love life, about 30 seconds.

how right you were which proves in a fight and in other situations clarks a one minute man.

[mortalclark]

Also, I hope they didn't put too much budget into that, that we'll get robbed around mid-season.

[freddielm]

I thought it was rather good, mind you it was short, but every second was worth it.

[warriorrenegade]

Originally posted by vyperman7
It is fights like these that make me appreciate Buffy the Vampre Slayer even more. For those that have seen the show look back on the fight between Buffy/Faith in Graduation. If only Smallville could put on fights like that one. I haven't seen the fight yet, but from what I have been hearing it seems like it was basically just a one man show of Zod beating Clark down. Oh well. :(

Its really dissapointing. I so wanted to see a fight and the teaser I referred to earlier today ... that pretty much showed the whole fight. It was all one sided. Clark just got his ass-kicked. It really shouldn't be called a fight, I mean what do you call a "fight" thats one sided?

[Rosa76]

I also wished Clark would fight back more. But it was still a cool fight scene.

[zonofzod]

Originally posted by savingpeoplething
I was MAJORLY disappointed in the Clark vs. Zod fight.

Don't get me wrong, the fact that they were fighting while flying was pretty cool, but it was pretty much one-sided.
Zod was puttin' the hurt on Clark and all Clark did in response was put the S shield in his hand?

I was REALLY hoping Clark would fight back...

It just seemed WAY too short and not enough Clark fighting for himself.

I loved this episode! Remember Jor-El telling Martha that Lex had powers of a true Kryptonian? Clark isn't Superman yet, of course he was going to get his butt kicked!

Anywho, this was great, it had more action than Superman Returns! I kid, I kid! Great episode, hopefully the rest of the season is this great!

[LexLuv180]

I thought the fight was pretty good myself. I was never crazy about the one in Arrival. It was a little short and would have been cool to see Clark get more punches in, but the special effects were amazing.

[Theshadow129x]

im sick of the half assed fights scenes to be honest it would be better if they BOTH actually throw punches not just one of them.

[D.M.A.]

Zod owned clark this episode I was glad tho,usually clark gets hit once or twice by sumone wit powers then he just grabs em and toss em.This time tho he didn't even get a lick in,the funny part to me was when Zod punched him thru that bolder and thru him cross the field smh.Clark needs to step his fightin game up for real now haha,if this is any sign of the fights he'll have wit PZ freaks this yr then I'm ready.The fight was short but much better than I expected,I thought it would be like arrival but was obviously wrong.

[AlphaSigmaOne]

I thought the fight was lame and a huge let-down.

[Coyote]

It makes sense for Clark to have no chance against Zod. Clark hasn't matured and got his full powers yet, while Zod is supposed to be one of the greatest warriors of Krypton. Later on when Clark grows into Superman it will be a more even match up.

[smallvillecrazygurl04]

Originally posted by D.M.A.
Zod owned clark this episode I was glad tho,usually clark gets hit once or twice by sumone wit powers then he just grabs em and toss em.This time tho he didn't even get a lick in,the funny part to me was when Zod punched him thru that bolder and thru him cross the field smh.Clark needs to step his fightin game up for real now haha,if this is any sign of the fights he'll have wit PZ freaks this yr then I'm ready.The fight was short but much better than I expected,I thought it would be like arrival but was obviously wrong.

I agree, i have to say that Zod was completly, taking Clark apart in this episode, I was hoping that the fight lasted alot longer but it was so worth it. I enjoyed the fight scene alot, It was one of my favorite scenes in the Premire, this was way better than the Arrival episode..Hands Down better.

[gbrewer83]

The fight was awful. I mean c'mon even Zod in Lex's body couldn't beat Clark. To one sided and very disappointed in the result. Ohhh, I'll take a beating and then use this shiny piece of metal to thwart you. I use to really enjoy Smallville(all five seasons) but it seems like there is less an less of Clark and no more obvious than tonights fight. Hated it every second.

[jazzylg]

Clark used more brain than brawn to beat Zod. This is our thinking Superman, not some foolhardy idiot that rushes into battle. Remember, Clark said he would die to stop him, then Zod threatened to kill everyone clark loves, when clark pulls the superman 2 trick up his sleeve to beat Zod.

[gj430]

Well yeah it makes sense for Clark to be outmatched by Zod but they should have had him at least get one punch in. I thought the flying and the rock and tree part were good but I was just really hoping CLakr would at least punch once, I've been waiting all summer for that and they didn't even have him punch once.

[Routh]

Oddly, this fight really reminded me of the battle between Clark and Jeremiah in "Talisman". I think it was when Zod threw Clark into the tree that was uprooted.

[Backward Galaxy]

Zod kicked Clark's butt. As it should be. It was farmboy versus soldier/warlord.

[metropolis]

hey, I just thought this would be a fun little topic because you know, you can tell a lot about a person by the fight songs he or she likes to play with grand battles.

[lost in smallville]

John Williams score. Not sure which one exactly. . .

[maryjanewatson]

omigosh, no joke, i imediately thought about eye of the tiger when i read the title to this thread! thats too funny that it was in the poll! :lol:

[GatorTex]

* haha...this is a great topic and your "He's a pirate" choice was a great one, but I will have to go with the cheesy as ever "Fighter" from Christina Aguilera ... Zod just took it to Clark and he got slapped around...very much like that song.

[metropolis]

well, I was thinking He's a Pirate during the fight and the Jack Sparrow theme (look it up on iTunes) while Clark is sucking Zod out of Lex's body

[Ares]

Lame

[enamored]

Yes, everyone wanted Clark to throw some punches but as someone else on this thread said, Clark was being the thinking man's Superman. Maybe Clark already realized that he was not yet, as a teenaged Kryptonian, at full superstrength when compared to Zod and trying to use brute strength to beat Zod was not going to work. Instead he let Zod believe that he had conquered Clark only to have the last laugh in the end. Brains over brawn. I think that is pretty cool.

[Lightning Flash]

Originally posted by freddielm
That's what I thought too, but he can bleed if he gets beat by a Kryptonian, look @ what happened when Raya kicked him.

Technically, Raya and Clark both didn't have any powers, so it was normal.

I thought the fight scene was pretty short, but sweet. Lexod owned Clark... it was like he couldn't even fight back.

[lanaslover]

man did he get his @$$ handed to him! That was the funniest, most pathetic display of a "fight" I've ever seen. There was no contest. If Clark didn't have the "S" then he would have died or become Zod's beotch.

[Lightning Flash]

Close this thread... now!

[Rozq]

I think he did it for purpose, he knew about the crystal and wanted to discract his attention I guess

[lanaslover]

lol dont get me wrong im not trying to bash the show in any way. i love the show but I just thought the fight was weak. but yeah maybe you're right, Rozq.

[Lightning Flash]

What I meant was is that this thread is useless since people are talking about the same exact things in other threads...

[lanaslover]

oh lol sorry. ok you can close it i dont care.... :p

[scififan]

Clark was not really fighting back so it was not much of a fight. So he really didn't lose the fight. He did not want to kill Lex. If they really had fought both were of the same strength so no one would win.

He had a plan to expel Zod out of Lex and it worked.

[Lastsunofkrypton]

I am not so sure. It was evident when lex barely flicked his wrist and his father ending up doing his bug on a windshield impersonation that the power in lex's body was all charged up beyond the strength and abilities of clark.

[warriorrenegade]

Originally posted by enamored
Yes, everyone wanted Clark to throw some punches but as someone else on this thread said, Clark was being the thinking man's Superman. Maybe Clark already realized that he was not yet, as a teenaged Kryptonian, at full superstrength when compared to Zod and trying to use brute strength to beat Zod was not going to work. Instead he let Zod believe that he had conquered Clark only to have the last laugh in the end. Brains over brawn. I think that is pretty cool.

Yes I was one of those who thought that Clark should've thrown a punch but you guys have convinced me. Clark was just rope-a-doping Zod. Its cool finally Clark uses his brains how un-BDA of him:D.

[D.M.A.]

yea it was cool to see him finally think and not rely on his power,but I can't front for a moment I forgot how the story is to end lol.I was cheerin Zod on cause that beatin was bad,plus I can see lex bein that evil in the future(Took me back to the onxy beatin he gave clark).Now if only tptb can bring Zod back 1 more time this season,maybe after clark has defeated all the PZ freaks and is alil more prepared.Maybe then we'll see more than a 1 sided fight but I liked it nonetheless

[I am the Superman]

What fight? In order for a fight to occur 2 people have to intend to either mentally or physically hurt one another. Clark didnt even try to punch him once, LAME LAME LAME JUST LIKE THE ONE ON ARRIVAL

[Kal-ed]

NOT ONE PUNCH, NOT ONE. It would have been awsome if they punched eachother at the same time in Lex´s libray, with such streght that the glass shatters, just one punch thats all..

[Kal El, Hero]

It was pretty pathetic of the BDA. How did he even know the little Shield from Jor-El would do that to Zod. What if it was vice versa and Zod's power destroyed the shield.
Why is Jor-El's gadget (or whoever the good guy that gives Clark help) always more powerful than the bad guy!? Lionel channelling Jor-El defeated Fine just by TOUCHING him, Jor-El's shield kicked Zod's ass just because he was holding it...Clark is useless really, forget Superman and just leave a bunch of Jor-El's relics scattered across the world, for the future bad guys to touch mid-evilness and they'd be defeated.

[glitchbit]

Nah what would have been cooler would have been to see Clark jump back up in the air after skidding across acres of land with the S jewel in his right hand winding back as Zod is flying up into the air towards him readying his punch to send Clark into space. And then Wham Clarks hand slaps the S jewel on his shinny bald forehead as his hand grips his head! Then we can watching him scream in agony as Clark says that line "My father sends his regards!" Then they fall back to earth with Lex have a big Superman S on his head for the rest of the season lol.

And then we can see Lex later meeting with plastic surgeons to get it removed =).

Now that would have been a premiere episode that would have satisfied me!

[Kal-ed]

Originally posted by Kal El, Hero
It was pretty pathetic of the BDA. How did he even know the little Shield from Jor-El would do that to Zod. What if it was vice versa and Zod's power destroyed the shield.
Why is Jor-El's gadget (or whoever the good guy that gives helps Clark) always more powerful than the bad guy!? Lionel channelling Jor-El defeated Fine just by TOUCHING him, Jor-El's shield kicked Zod's ass just because he was holding it...Clark is useless really, forget Superman and just leave a bunch of Jor-El's relics scattered across the world, for the future bad guys to touch mid-evilness and they'd be defeated.

There´s even one Jor el relic that can help you cook better, if you dont belive me ask martha, why her pies are so famous.

[Son of Kal-El20]

The fight was horrible. Probably the most poorly done supervillian/hero fight ever. Lately Superman has been having some really bad action sequences. First, SR's action scenes were terrible and now in SV, the action scene was horrible.

The best fight on the show so far was the Clark/Johnathan fight in Season 3. This fight was beyond bad.

Whatever happened to the George Reeves's Superman that actually fought for his life. *sigh*

[magoo]

I thought the fight was probably the best there's been on the show so far.

It gave you a good look at what would happen to the surrounding elements if two superpowered people fought. From the earth gathering up as if a meteor had landed to Zod pummelling Clarks head as he was on the rock with the rock becoming gradually more broken apart from the force of the blows. Brilliant!

I'm glad that Clark didn't physically fight back and just outsmarted Zod. That is what Superman would have done and that's the difference between a Superhero and a Supervillain.

[xrayvision]

*Eye of the Tiger?....I heard Pie of the Martha. That dude is in no shape to fight anyone. His career ended before it began.

[Kal-ed]

Originally posted by magoo

I'm glad that Clark didn't physically fight back and just outsmarted Zod. That is what Superman would have done and that's the difference between a Superhero and a Supervillain.

In the comics and cartoons even in the movie (Superman vs Zod in Superman II), Clark does punch back, and some great fights have come out of a fight based on raw force punching, if your not a comic fan (if you are sorry for the needless clarification) Im sure you have heard and probably even read or seen something about the Death of Superman, where he fights Doomsday, and he didnt outsmart Doomsday it was brute stregt that brought the beast down.

He does use his intelect, and tries to avoid confrontation, but if it comes to it, like it did in Zod, he can put one hell of a fight. Besides I didnt want a Rocky vs. Apollo fight, just one or two punches out of Clark, and then he could go back to outsmarting Zod.


Originally posted by Son of Kal-El20

The best fight on the show so far was the Clark/Johnathan fight in Season 3. This fight was beyond bad.


I would put that Pa Kent/Clark fight in second, the best one was Chloe/Lana. They both threw punches and kicks like there was no tomorrow, instead of the grabing and throwing, grabing and throwing when Clark is involved.

[magoo]

Originally posted by Kal-ed
In the comics and cartoons even in the movie (Superman vs Zod in Superman II), Clark does punch back, and some great fights have come out of a fight based on raw force punching, if your not a comic fan (if you are sorry for the needless clarification) Im sure you have heard and probably even read or seen something about the Death of Superman, where he fights Doomsday, and he didnt outsmart Doomsday it was brute stregt that brought the beast down.

He does use his intelect, and tries to avoid confrontation, but if it comes to it, like it did in Zod, he can put one hell of a fight. Besides I didnt want a Rocky vs. Apollo fight, just one or two punches out of Clark, and then he could go back to outsmarting Zod.

Yea thanks I was aware that he has actually fought blow for blow with adversaries. However the thought of a pacifist Superman that outwits his opponents rather than beats them into submission appeals to me. As long as they are beating up on him until he can find a non-violent way to subdue them they aren't harming anyone else. Doesn't make for exciting veiwing I know, but personally I think this is what being a Super man should be about. Raising yourself above the wrong-doer and using your powers positively rather than negatively.

[Kal-ed]

Well, I know, peace is one of supes traits, but cmon, indulge us action fans. :D

[Mach2Infinity]

Surely the next season should feature Clark attempting to fly or considering it?

He's developed super breath, now all he needs is ice cool mentos power and the knack to fly!

First Lex as Zod flew off with Lana in tow, which was witnessed by Chloe and Lionel. Surely Chloe would bring it up with Clark? Also when Clark and Zod were tussling in the air, whilst Zod shot out at great speed it did seem they were 'flying'. Plus when Zod smacks Clark out of the woods he appears in front of him by flying then floating to the ground. Clark doesn't seem surprised. So either a) he's remembered something from being Kal-El; b) he's had a feeling he can but is scared due to heights or c) just didn't pop into the mind of the shows creators.

[Lex Dance]

^^^^^^ I haven't seen Crusade for a while but I don't remember Clark forgetting about his time as Kal-el. Doesn't he talk about flying with Martha and come to the conclusion that it is something he will be able to do?
This is why I get confused at the start of Reckoning - before proposing to Lana he floats to the top of the FOS. Hang on - how did that happen?!
As for Clark v Zod, I was happy with the fight - punches or no punches. I've come to expect brief sequences so I wasn't disappointed at all, especially as Clark overcame his enemy with cunning. He showed he's not the BDA that many people think.
Soundtrack? How about I Lost My Heart To A Starship Trooper.....

[Bane]

Zod beat the crap out of Clark, it was pretty awesome to see. So, I'd say it was a pretty good picture.