Episode Wars - Best of All Seasons

[smallvillefreak24]

Episode 16 - Fever

Episode 17 - Rosetta

Episode 18 - Apocalypse

I know I'm in the minority but I love Fever. One of s2's finest. All of the character interactions really great. The chlark letter is a definite highlight. Descent is good too. i thought they should have made the episode more about lionel's death and less about lex's symbolically killing the goodness inside him. Promise and Stray were also very much in the running. Stray had ryan, who was one of the best guest stars. I always thought it was weird that clark acted like he was so much older than him when clark was only 15ish himself. O well that's life in smallville. Promise had the wedding and some heartbreaking clana moments. Then would come crisis. When I first saw crisis i thought it was so suspenseful. I really enjoy it. the whole thing is just not as quality concentrated as teh rest though. then turbulence. I really liked the tess stuff but the davis stuff kind of overshadowed it. Jimmy was surprisingly harsh. I did not like lucy. I did enjoy learnign more about lois but i thought the whole thing was pretty boring. Hypnotic was crap -nuff said.

Rosetta in my mind is kind of like shattered. I may not choose that episode to watch over the rest on a random night, but it is very well done so i feel it should get props. Rosetta has an epic feel that is not easily duplicated. It is an important episode which is why it gets my vote. Tied for 2nd would be hex and onyx. I love both of them. Onyx is one of the best lex-centric episodes. MR kicks butt and so does the lines (i am the villain of the story). Hex was just fun and enjoyable to watch. I also liked the guest star. I don't know why but i always seem to forget about legacy. I do enjoy it though so it gets 4th. Next combat. I liked clark in it and the fight was sweet. Void was good. Lana was a little possessed in it but i like the flashbacks. Reaper wasn't terrible but just fine. Sleeper was a bit of a sleeper itself (why is it called sleeper?)

This is the hardest category. Apocalypse gets it because it was my favorite of s7. I love au episodes and this was top notch. It had stellar iconic moments. Coming in a close second is truth and spirit. Spirit, like hex, was just fun. It was one of the funniest episodes of the series and very enjoyable to watch. Truth was also fun to watch. the pete kiss was classic and i really like chloe episodes. Eternal would be a solid fourth. It was good, but retcons bug me to no end. Progeny next. I thought chloe was great in it but that episode was a wasted opportunity and a huge plothole in itself. Drone was entertaining so i'll give it the next slot. Visitor was ok and fragile was iffy except for the lois moments and clark-maddie? interactions.

[deathwish2120]

Episode 16 - Descent
Episode 17 - Combat - Titan fight - Awsome
Episode 18 - Spirit - "thats my crown, *****" Funny as.

[Clark/Lois-fan]

Episode 16: Descent
Episode 17: Rosetta
Episode 18: Apocalypse

[Jaderoyale]

Episode 16 - Descent
Episode 17 - Hex
Episode 18 - Apocalypse

I agree with Ryan. Up until S7 Stray would have been my 17 episode choice. It was wonderful. However, Descent was A LONG time coming and it didn't disappoint, like other episodes of S7.

Hard. Hard. Hard. Hard.
Rosetta is just so... iconic. So why have i chosen Hex? I'm a sucker for the comedy. The lighthearted yet seriousness of the episode. Clark as a carefree reporter, fliratious yet into his job. Thats what i've always wanted. It JUST knocked Rosetta, but only just. I'm still wondering whether i made the right choice.

IMO by far the best 18th episode and TW's best directed episode.

[marcella]

Episode 16 - Descent
Episode 17 - Hex
Episode 18 - Apocalypse

[vyperman7]

Man.. To be honest I am a bit suprised at the amount of votes that Hex is getting. Was it an enjoyable episode? Yes. Zatanna was played to perfection and there were some great scenes. However, the best episode of the category?

[Jlvsclrk]

Man.. To be honest I am a bit suprised at the amount of votes that Hex is getting. Was it an enjoyable episode? Yes. Zatanna was played to perfection and there were some great scenes. However, the best episode of the category?

I assume you mean compared to Rosetta, and I can kind of see that. However, Rosetta is a tad overrated for me because of the Christopher Reeves appearance. A big part of my problem in voting for Rosetta though is the "Rule with strength" message at the end, which for me at the time was enormously exciting - a new take on Jor-El! Something else for Clark to fight against! But frankly, everything to do with the ship/cave/fortress has been presented so inconsistently that I wind up hating most everything to do with the topic. THAT'S why I hate retcons - they interfere with your rewatching of previous episodes.

[Lex Dance]

Episode 16 - Promise
Episode 17 - Rosetta
Episode 18 - Truth

This time last year I hadn't seen Descent or Apocalypse and I remember thinking that my vote would change in a year's time (due to the wave of popular opinion). However, as much as I like both episodes, they didn't do enough to sway me. Descent in particular wasn't as good as I wanted it to be. As a huge Lex fan I'd been waiting a long time for Lex to kill his father and assume the mantel, but in the end pushing him out of a window because he wouldn't give him something just didn't seem fitting enough. That said, Descent has some truly gripping moments: Lex finding the key in Chloe's drawer (pure menace!), and the funeral stare-down (the hatred!)

It might not be fashionable to like Promise, but there you go. A very creative episode, excellent choices of music, and a last hurrah from the MB. That scene between Lionel and Lex (and then Lana) is Smallville gold.

Rosetta is an iconic episode and I'd find it sacrilegious to change my mind now - even though Hex is a great episode. Mind you, so are Onyx and Legacy. Tough round!

And Truth will always remain a favourite - one of the reasons why I love S3 so much. Chloe knowing Clark's secret at that point seemed a very dangerous idea. The episode had real tension and I don't think the writing in Smallville achieves that very much anymore. Plus JG was magnificent in that scene with Chloe in the hospital.

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For me though, a big part of the problem in voting for Rosetta is the "Rule with strength" message at the end, which for me at the time was enormously exciting - a new take on Jor-El! Something else for Clark to fight against! But frankly, everything to do with the ship/cave/fortress has been presented so inconsistently that I wind up hating most everything to do with the topic. THAT'S why I hate retcons - they interfere with your rewatching of previous episodes.
Yeah I hate how a retcon does that. I find it almost impossible to watch the excellent scene between JG and CR in Legacy and truly believe that they have already met. Regardless of the Veritas arc, I want this to be the first time they have crossed paths, and it annoys me that now it's not supposed to be.
But as for the "rule with strength" message, as much as I wanted that to be maintained throughout the series, it doesn't offend me too much because it was suggested in S2 that the message was open to interpretation.

[costas22]

Rosetta is not rated highly just for the Christopher Reeve appearance(although it's the biggest guest star appearance the show will ever have). It's also the episode in which Clark finds out his real name and the planet he is from. It was the most pivotal episode at the time. Hex was a fun episode, but it wasn't pivotal about too much. I think that even if it wasn't Rosetta, for me it would have been Onyx.

[Lex Dance]

^^^^^ I agree Costas - it's more than just an appearance from CR. In fact my favourite scene is the one between Jonathon and Clark at the end. One of JS's best moments. It was yet another moment that carried such threat. Like I said earlier, Smallville just doesn't provide that kind of tension anymore. Doomsday? As in the creature that cannot be stopped? As in the end of the world? There just wasn't any tension or threat in that storyline. And as for what you would choose after Rosetta, I agree too. After Onyx I'd maybe go for Legacy, but I'd find it difficult to choose between that and Hex. What about you?

[Supsfan]

Man.. To be honest I am a bit suprised at the amount of votes that Hex is getting. Was it an enjoyable episode? Yes. Zatanna was played to perfection and there were some great scenes. However, the best episode of the category?

I think one of the problems on the show is I don't particularly find there mythology the greatest thing. I much prefer the one shot episodes of Clark actually doing hero stuff, or episodes that have a lighter fun feel to them. I also am not a huge fan of tyranical jackass Jor-El making Clark feel like crap, and although he wasn't in this episode his presence was felt.

Beyond that Lana declaring her and Chloe were sisters on a school project was much better left to an afterschool special, so the b-plot in Hex much more entertaining(although I usually make my choices purely on a-plot stuff)

Don't get me wrong very good episode, jsut not as great as some make it out to be

[Dr. Walden]

Episode 16-Promise-This one is kind of tough. Descent was good, but I felt it spoiled a moment I'd been waiting seven seasons for (Lex killing Lionel). And I felt Lex's "descent" in Season 7 was a bit obtuse and overdone, whereas in Season 6 it retained the subtlety that made Lex such a great character. That, and Lionel slapping Lex and telling him he couldn't pull off a successful murder, is why I chose Promise. And I kind of enjoyed the episode structure, and it made Lana kind of likable for a while.

Episode 17-Onyx-Ugh. If Hex wins over one of the best episodes of the series, I'll be a tad disappointed. Best Lex episode outside of Shattered. Lex beating up Clark in the barn and then shooting Jonathan is maybe my favorite scene of the entire series. Just a great Lex-centric episode. I think Hex is extremely overrated, personally. The biggest endorsement I really see of it is "fun." Which can be rare on SV, and I do appreciate it. But it doesn't trump the brilliance of MR.

Episode 18-Apocalypse-A solid episode that just edges out Truth. Not as good as Labyrinth's AU, but it was a very important episode. I almost chose Truth just for the John Glover-Allison Mack interactions. Their interactions are always fantastic and they bring the best out in each other as actors.

[costas22]

^^^^^ I agree Costas - it's more than just an appearance from CR. In fact my favourite scene is the one between Jonathon and Clark at the end. One of JS's best moments. It was yet another moment that carried such threat. Like I said earlier, Smallville just doesn't provide that kind of tension anymore. Doomsday? As in the creature that cannot be stopped? As in the end of the world? There just wasn't any tension or threat in that storyline. And as for what you would choose after Rosetta, I agree too. After Onyx I'd maybe go for Legacy, but I'd find it difficult to choose between that and Hex. What about you?

In regards to the final scene you mentioned, i agree that it's one of John Schneider's best moments. That scene had a tough act to follow. You think that the climax of the episode is the Clark-Swann meeting, and then they pull this on you. As you said. It was a very realistic tense moment.

It's tough to choose. I think that Hex deserve a lot of credit for being an oasis among all the darkness we got in the second half of season 8. But i still can't see where all of that led us. Chloe was WatchTower just for that episode. I haven't seen Legacy in a while, but i remember that it was maybe a bit too dramatic. I think it would be a tie. But when you get a Glover-Reeve scene, you have to feel richly rewarded.

[rockyshadow]

Isn't Hex the episode where Chloe decides that she's going to be Watchtower? I know that Chloe leaving journalism behind is very controvercial, but I think her revelation about where she belongs at this point in her life. It also showed that Clark likes being a reporter and he only thinks about being normal once in a while and unlike before it isn't what he wants to be anymore. Zatanna's spell is what made him forget, but that's because that's what he was thinking about at the time. Same with Chloe being envious of Lois for not having as dramatic of life changes all thrown at her at once. That's what I liked about it, "fun" moments aside.

[SparkleforSmallville]

Episode 16 ~ Descent
Episode 17 ~ Hex
Episode 18 ~ Apocalypse

[costas22]

Isn't Hex the episode where Chloe decides that she's going to be Watchtower? I know that Chloe leaving journalism behind is very controvercial, but I think her revelation about where she belongs at this point in her life. It also showed that Clark likes being a reporter and he only thinks about being normal once in a while and unlike before it isn't what he wants to be anymore. Zatanna's spell is what made him forget, but that's because that's what he was thinking about at the time. Same with Chloe being envious of Lois for not having as dramatic of life changes all thrown at her at once. That's what I liked about it, "fun" moments aside.

First and foremost, welcome to the site. :)

I am not denying that Hex had some important moments. I think that a lot of those things were dealt with anyway. For one thing, i think Clark had already found the balance he was looking for before Hex. As far as Chloe is concerned, she already had been WatchTower before Hex and had pretty much buried her journalistic aspirations for close to a year. So again, there was nothing too ground breaking there. And even though Chloe becoming officially Watchtower was a significant moment, it was something that wasn't explored afterwards. That's what i meant when i said that Hex didn't shape things for the rest of the season.

For me, the problem doesn't lie with Hex as an episode. It was one of the best of Season 8 and one that really made me laugh. I just don't think it can be considered better than Rosetta. That's the problem we are going to have in this type of a competition. For example, Beast, which wasn't one of my favorites has much easier competition than Hex.

[Supsfan]

For example, Beast, which wasn't one of my favorites has much easier competition than Hex.

Wrong thread for Beast being considered a front runner. :P

[Spirit Detective]

EP16- Descent
EP17- Onyx
EP18- Apocalypse

If it comes down to sudden death between Hex and Rosetta, I'm going to vote for Hex. Rosetta is definitely overrated. Hex was overall a more consistently enjoyable episode.

[Glove]

I'm jumping into this thread a bit late, but it's better than never.

I'll choose:
Episode #16 - Descent
Episode #17 - Rosetta
Episode #18 - Apocalypse

The death of Lionel Luthor, Christopher Reeve, and President
Lex Luthor with K-gun. I wouldn't have it any other way.:)

[HeroesUnlimited]

Episode 16: Crisis (time travel geek here)

Episode 17: Rosetta (an absolute classic)

Episode 18: Apocalypse (those "what if" episodes are fun)

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Man.. To be honest I am a bit suprised at the amount of votes that Hex is getting. Was it an enjoyable episode? Yes. Zatanna was played to perfection and there were some great scenes. However, the best episode of the category?

I suspect "shiny new toy" syndrome. ;)

[SGuthrie27]

Hehe, I think you two may be right. I mean, I loved "Hex" a lot, myself, but... man... it's putting up some major competition against an episode I thought was going to win by a landslide ("Rosetta")!

--SGuthrie ><>' :)--

[vyperman7]

Usually the outcomes of the rounds don't really affect me all that much. I am happy when an episode I voted for wins, and slightly dissapointed when one of my choices loses. However, it isn't that big of a deal to me and I usually move on quite quickly. However, for some reason, this is a round I am having a hard time coming to terms with.

Now Hex is a fun episode, and Zantana was played to perfection. Still though, it is a light hearted, stand alone episode. Not really all that important. Just enjoyable filler. Rosetta gets to the heart of the whole series by delving deeper into flight, introducing Clark to his origins, bringing in Christopher Reeve with the Superman score, and giving us an ending that features one of the best Clark/Johnathan interactions of the show. How can an episode like that, lose to an episode like Hex?

Now I will be the first one to admit that Rosetta is overrated. I was blown away when it originally aired on TV because of how much impact it had at that point in the series. However, with repeated viewings Rosetta loses some of its luster. The episode moves at a slow pace and tends to be a little boring at times. After you have seen it a few times, you just want him to meet Swann already..LOL Still though, the impact that certain moments bring definitely means more to the show than Hex does. If Rosetta was going to lose, I would want it to be to Onyx. At least that episode is on a grander scale and lets us get a look at the type of person Lex would be down the road. It is an important episode and MR rocks the house in it.

[Supsfan]

and giving us an ending that features one of the best Clark/Johnathan interactions of the show.

You mean the ending?

Clark: Dad I am a freak and my life sucks
Jonathan: Shut up you Dumbass and learn to lighten up a bit
Clark: look dad I got a key lets use it, oh no my tryanical jackass of a Dad wants me to control the world, guess it's time for me to be even more depressed, you have any idea of what kind of contrieved plot full of angst they can throw me into now?

(note: this is before Exile and I already expressed my feeling on that)

There is something to be said when you watch an episode and they leave you on a happy note. As I said before Rosseta is a good episode despite my dislike for anything Jor-El related on this show, but after years of angst and depression you learn to enjoy the times you can come out of an episode feeling happy for the characters. Clark finding out about his heritage should be a happy moment, but in typical Smallville fashion they drama it up

On my list of stuff I don't care for on this show Jor-El might crack the top 10, so anytime he rears his ugly head into an episode it knocks it down a point or so.


Still though, it is a light hearted, stand alone episode.

Perry and Run were light hearted stand alone episodes as well, I don't see that being used as a knock against either of them. It's my belief that Smallville usually gets things right when they stay away from storyarcs full of "drama" and just focus on an episode as an identity as itself.

[vyperman7]

You mean the ending?

Clark: Dad I am a freak and my life sucks
Jonathan: Shut up you Dumbass and learn to lighten up a bit
Clark: look dad I got a key lets use it, oh no my tryanical jackass of a Dad wants me to control the world, guess it's time for me to be even more depressed, you have any idea of what kind of contrieved plot full of angst they can throw me into now?

(note: this is before Exile and I already expressed my feeling on that)

There is something to be said when you watch an episode and they leave you on a happy note. As I said before Rosseta is a good episode despite my dislike for anything Jor-El related on this show, but after years of angst and depression you learn to enjoy the times you can come out of an episode feeling happy for the characters. Clark finding out about his heritage should be a happy moment, but in typical Smallville fashion they drama it up

On my list of stuff I don't care for on this show Jor-El might crack the top 10, so anytime he rears his ugly head into an episode it knocks it down a point or so.

That was hilarious man. It was like the Mystery Science Theater version of Rosetta's ending. Classic.

[Jlvsclrk]

You mean the ending?

Clark: Dad I am a freak and my life sucks
Jonathan: Shut up you Dumbass and learn to lighten up a bit
Clark: look dad I got a key lets use it, oh no my tryanical jackass of a Dad wants me to control the world, guess it's time for me to be even more depressed, you have any idea of what kind of contrieved plot full of angst they can throw me into now?

:rotfl:


On my list of stuff I don't care for on this show Jor-El might crack the top 10, so anytime he rears his ugly head into an episode it knocks it down a point or so.

:D Exactly!!!! The only appearance of Jor-El I ever really enjoyed was Abyss, where they basically asked us as viewers to forget all the dodgy stuff the AI had done over the years and started fresh. Even then though, I was secretly seething at the idea of Clark apologizing to that hunk of junk. Oh vay, retcon upon retcon there.

[costas22]

Wrong thread for Beast being considered a front runner. :P

I am just saying that categories vary when it comes to hard competition. The 8th and 17th episodes have a lot of good episodes while the 13th and 20th ones don't. The nature of the game.

[Dr. Walden]

I think there's been quite a bit of "shiny new toy" syndrome this time. I can't believe how many votes some of these Season 8 episodes are racking up. The only one I would even consider is Bride. And I actually greatly disliked Legion and Infamous (though I suppose I'm in the minority there). I think the current season always gets a bit of a bump, because it hasn't had to withstand the passing of time yet. But I could be wrong. We'll see.

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I am just saying that categories vary when it comes to hard competition. The 8th and 17th episodes have a lot of good episodes while the 13th and 20th ones don't. The nature of the game.

20th really is weak. I don't even like Talisman much, but it's always been the winner. I don't think Beast will really challenge it either.

[costas22]

I think there's been quite a bit of "shiny new toy" syndrome this time. I can't believe how many votes some of these Season 8 episodes are racking up. The only one I would even consider is Bride. And I actually greatly disliked Legion and Infamous (though I suppose I'm in the minority there). I think the current season always gets a bit of a bump, because it hasn't had to withstand the passing of time yet. But I could be wrong. We'll see.

I think you are making a very valid point. Hex has a lot of momentum because it was the last enjoyable episode we saw this season. But like you, i would like to see how it stands out in people's minds in a year. From Season 8, i liked Identity, Bloodline and Bride. There were some very good episodes, but compared to the last 3 seasons. I don't know how they compare to Season 2-4 top episodes. It's been a while between the two periods and the show has evolved a lot.

[rockyshadow]

I agree with Dr. Walden, the 20th episodes are usually very weak and I don't know what I'm going to vote for, I've never really been a fan of Talisman either.

[vyperman7]

Dr. Walden,

I will agree with you on Infamous. I found it to be average at best. I thought it was far too rushed and predictable. For example, instead of getting a sitdown interview with Clark and Lois where he goes into detail, it just cuts to the newspaper article. To be quite honest, I wasn't even excited going into the episode. Legion on the other hand, I did enjoy. I didn't really care for Bride all that much myself. The Clois scenes were great. However, other than that, it was an average episode for me. Now personally, I felt like the opening of the episode took suspense away. I would have saved showing the actual wedding, Doomsday, etc until the very end. I would have started the episode with Davis dealing with his inner beast, and then I would have kept going back to him through out the episode showing him getting closer and closer. This would have built up a lot more suspense.

[Spirit Detective]

I'm definitely not going to vote for Beast. I think that episode falls under "Shiny New Toy" syndrome.

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Dr. Walden,

I will agree with you on Infamous. I found it to be average at best. I thought it was far too rushed and predictable. For example, instead of getting a sitdown interview with Clark and Lois where he goes into detail, it just cuts to the newspaper article. To be quite honest, I wasn't even excited going into the episode.

I lost excitement going into Infamous as well. It makes no sense that a hack reporter like Linda Lake could turn the whole world against Clark. Where's the proof that Clark killed Lex? Where's the evidence that Clark is the first in a wave of alien invasion?

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The only reason Clark destroyed the Legion ring was that it was a Deus Ex Machina.

Clark: Oh look, Davis Bloome is Doomsday! Well, I can just go back in time to stop that.

[Supsfan]

I'm definitely not going to vote for Beast. I think that episode falls under "Shiny New Toy" syndrome.

I would vote Beast for worst episode but unfortunately Ageless was #20 as well.


I will agree with you on Infamous.

I personally am not a fan of time reversals where they do something to please a shipper fanbase only to take it away. Beyond that I thought Clark looked incredibly bad in the episode. Chloe tells him he is stupid to go public and she was right

[BadToad]

I will agree with you on Infamous. I found it to be average at best. I thought it was far too rushed and predictable.

ITA. I was really disappointed it won its round. Yes, the Clois stuff was nice in the episode, but the script was a disaster. And while a decent concept for an episode, the execution was really lacking, IMO

[Spirit Detective]

ITA. I was really disappointed it won its round. Yes, the Clois stuff was nice in the episode, but the script was a disaster. And while a decent concept for an episode, the execution was really lacking, IMO

Not to mention Tori Spelling didn't help

[HeroesUnlimited]

Usually the outcomes of the rounds don't really affect me all that much. I am happy when an episode I voted for wins, and slightly dissapointed when one of my choices loses. However, it isn't that big of a deal to me and I usually move on quite quickly. However, for some reason, this is a round I am having a hard time coming to terms with.

Now Hex is a fun episode, and Zantana was played to perfection. Still though, it is a light hearted, stand alone episode. Not really all that important. Just enjoyable filler. Rosetta gets to the heart of the whole series by delving deeper into flight, introducing Clark to his origins, bringing in Christopher Reeve with the Superman score, and giving us an ending that features one of the best Clark/Johnathan interactions of the show. How can an episode like that, lose to an episode like Hex?

Now I will be the first one to admit that Rosetta is overrated. I was blown away when it originally aired on TV because of how much impact it had at that point in the series. However, with repeated viewings Rosetta loses some of its luster. The episode moves at a slow pace and tends to be a little boring at times. After you have seen it a few times, you just want him to meet Swann already..LOL Still though, the impact that certain moments bring definitely means more to the show than Hex does. If Rosetta was going to lose, I would want it to be to Onyx. At least that episode is on a grander scale and lets us get a look at the type of person Lex would be down the road. It is an important episode and MR rocks the house in it.

Agreed. That one was a no-brainer for me. I think some of the Hex "love" will wear off with time. I wouldn't surprised if Rosetta wins this category again NEXT year. It's shiny new toy syndrome.

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I think there's been quite a bit of "shiny new toy" syndrome this time. I can't believe how many votes some of these Season 8 episodes are racking up. The only one I would even consider is Bride. And I actually greatly disliked Legion and Infamous (though I suppose I'm in the minority there). I think the current season always gets a bit of a bump, because it hasn't had to withstand the passing of time yet. But I could be wrong. We'll see.

Bride and Legion were probably two favorite season 8 epis (Identity was OK too). But none of those three were good enough for me to vote for them in their respective categories.

[Supsfan]

Agreed. That one was a no-brainer for me. I think some of the Hex "love" will wear off with time. I wouldn't surprised if Rosetta wins this category again NEXT year. It's shiny new toy syndrome.

If I didn't go with Hex, I probably would have picked either Onyx or Combat myself. For the most part #17s are a very strong bunch, and while Rosetta was a very good episode, I just ain't caught up in all the hype that surrounds it as others.

[HeroesUnlimited]

I'm a little surprised that Apocalypse is so popular and Infamous isn't. The premise really isn't all that different IMO.

[Supsfan]

I'm a little surprised that Apocalypse is so popular and Infamous isn't. The premise really isn't all that different IMO.

For starters I am not a fan of AU/time reversals and I voted neither. Of the 2 though I enjoyed Apocalypse way more, I thought Clark looked bad in Infamous(although I was not a fan of the way Apocalyspe ended with Clark getting shot, the beginning was weak as well with Chloe having to give Clark a pep talk). Both episodes lose points(to different degrees) for "I hate my life/It's my fault" Clark rearing his ugly head

All that being said it looks like Infamous won and Apocalypse is on it's way to winning

[rockyshadow]

The reasons I didn't go with "Rosetta" are because I didn't enjoy that Jor-el sounded like he wanted Clark to rule, and the side story between Lana and Chloe didn't interest me. I loved all the scenes between the Kents and the two scenes with Christopher Reeve's Dr. Swann though.

"Hex" showed IMO that both Clark and Chloe had made their final decisions about their lives and what they were going to do with them. It may not sound like it's as important as Clark learning of his origins, but it was when he decided where his place really is on Smallville and his life.

[Dr. Walden]

I'm a little surprised that Apocalypse is so popular and Infamous isn't. The premise really isn't all that different IMO.

I think Apocalypse is only so "popular" because it's in a weaker episode slot. And Infamous did win its spot.

rockyshadow, maybe the reason I didn't like Hex then is because it may seem like he "decided where is place is" is that we've seen that type of thing time and time again, and he ends up not really doing that much differently.

vyperman, I totally agree about Bride. If the ending wasn't shown at the beginning, I think I would have been blown away by the ending.

[CKWannabe]

i CANNOT believe i've missed this much of Episode Wars!!! i've done EW every yr since season 5. Angry at myself 4 not keeping tabs...kept thinking it was after the 4th of July. oh well, no one to blame but me, here goes...

Episode 16: FEVER - Every year I look for Eps that will knock off some of the fav's from the early days of SV, but I always seem to come back to what i tend regard as the 'glory days' of Smallville, basically the first 3-4 seasons. So my choices seem to be dominated by 'em. Fever is in the middle of one of the great storylines of the early days...the season long pursuit of the Octagonal Disc that changed hands so many times ( some of which were not even explained HOW it changed hands ). This ep also has a great scene w/ Chloe reading the love letter to a semi-unconcscious Clark. misty-eyed everytime i see it. lol

Episode 17: ROSETTA - Always a tough call between this one & Legacy, but CK's mythos really takes a step forward in this one.


Episode 18: SPIRIT - Goofy at times ( i.e. Martha's kitchen dance) but the Jason subplot w/ Lex and the combination of the Clark/Lana romance w/ my favorite band Lifehouse makes this a favorite of mine always.

[Supsfan]

This ep also has a great scene w/ Chloe reading the love letter to a semi-unconcscious Clark. misty-eyed everytime i see it.

You mean that isn't ment as comedy? I always get a good chuckle when TW says in his best Rocky impression "Lana"

[CKWannabe]

You mean that isn't ment as comedy? I always get a good chuckle when TW says in his best Rocky impression "Lana"

oooh that's cold :rotfl:

[Jaderoyale]

I'm a little surprised that Apocalypse is so popular and Infamous isn't. The premise really isn't all that different IMO.

Well IMO, Apocalypse was one of the ONLY episodes of S7 that they got right (bar Descent and Gemini) - I'm pretty much a sucker for AU episodes (i voted for Labyrinth as well), mainly because i'm interested on what the writers take is on certain different universe that they choose and mostly how the actors adapt to it.

For me, Apocalypse was pretty much, everything i know we probably won't get in the show; fully evil Lex (yes he killed Lionel in Descent, but they weren't going to take him down the whole mythos shebang and have him with his whole "the world is mine, i am powerful" vendetta), lets not forget the black glove and being president, Lois at the DP as a pulitzer winning reporter; i'll be one of the Lois fans to stand up and say i'm annoyed at the way they handled her admission into the DP, its cause ALOT of backlash and arguing between fangroups. In this episode, she really seemed in her element (which they didn't really show her to be as much during the episodes she was in during S7, IMO they wasted ALOT of her screentime in S7 on pointless scenes, Wrath for example). Then there was Clark taking things in his own stride, being proactive. Lets not forget for the majority of episodes before he was being outshone by Kara and trying to play house on the farm with Lana.
And then there was Jimmy. Camera, bow tie and all -sigh-

I actually thought i wouldn't be as happy with it this year, considering the retcon in Doomsday. But i will agree, that its against weaker episodes in its category.

In regards to Infamous, it just disappointed me. From the word go, we all guessed there would be time reversal, so i couldn't find myself getting exicted when Clark decided to out himself to the world; as i knew it would go wrong. He was proved to be wrong, which i really despise; Chloe was made out to be right about what would happen when he revealed his secret. Plus, i really can't stand Linda Lake. Thats probably cause she was played by Tori Spelling though.

[vyperman7]

i CANNOT believe i've missed this much of Episode Wars!!! i've done EW every yr since season 5. Angry at myself 4 not keeping tabs...kept thinking it was after the 4th of July. oh well, no one to blame but me, here goes.

It is funny because there was a heated debate going about Rosetta vs Hex, and you were the deciding vote that gave Rosetta the win 13-12. So your vote definitely made a difference. This is the perfect example for the saying "better late than never".

Round 6 completed. Results posted on first page...

Round 7 : Episodes 19-21 Ends July 6th @ 8pm PST

Episode 19

S1-Crush
S2-Precipice
S3-Memoria
S4-Blank
S5-Mercy
S6-Nemesis
S7-Quest
S8-Stilleto

Episode 20

S1-Obscura
S2-Witness
S3-Talisman
S4-Ageless
S5-Fade
S6-Noir
S7-Arctic (S7 Finale)
S8-Beast

Episode 21 *No 21st episode for S7

S1-Tempest
S2-Accelerate
S3-Forsaken
S4-Forever
S5-Oracle
S6-Prototype
S8-Injustice

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My Choices :

Episode 19- Nemesis

Episode 20- Talisman

Episode 21- Tempest

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None of the S8 episodes this year for episodes 19-21 were good enough to effect the outcome of my votes in this round.

Episode 19 - Last year I went with Memoria. However, overtime Nemesis has really grown on me. One of the best Clex episodes of the show. Memoria is still a great episode. Extremely well done. However, like Rosetta I tend to find it a tad slow at times and overrated. It is still a close second to Nemesis though. The one episode I think gets too much credit in this round is Blank. Not a terrible episode. Enjoyable actually. However, it still upsets me to this day that Clark did not find out about Chloe knowing the truth in this episode. If that wasn't the ultimate goal, why even use Chloe at all? Why not just have it be the Kents? The episode should have unfolded with Chloe helping Clark regain his memory and once Clark got his memory back he discovers what Chloe knows. Why wait to Arrival? For this reason, I can't vote for the episode. It just bugged me too much.

Episode 20 - It seems like Arctic should be voted for because it is a season finale, given the past record of season finales like Tempest, Calling, Covenant, Commencement, etc.. However, Arctic was just terrible. Somehow it managed to be even worse than Vessel. Sure it had the one great scene with Clark and Lex, but that was it. Talisman has become one of my favorite episodes of the show over the years. I know that some people don't like it. However, I found it to be really great. It had mythos, fantastic dialogue and great action/suspense. I also really like the episode Witness from S2 which I feel has gotten a bad rap. Definitely an underrated episode. Ageless is without a doubt the worst episode of the series hands down, and I didn't care for Noir either.

Episode 21 - Oracle vs Tempest. Oracle is a fantastic episode. One of the series' best. But I just have a soft spot for Tempest which makes me give it the slight edge. The opening of the episode with Lionel firing everyone, the bit with Lex on the hellipad, the Chlark dance moment, the cliffhanger with Clark running into the tornado, Lex debating whether or not he should let Lionel live, etc.. Just an awesome episode.

[HeroesUnlimited]

Episode 19: Quest - One of my favorite episodes of the entire series (top 5 for sure) and maybe the ONLY episode I really liked in season 7. Although sadly, I fear it has no chance given all of the love for Memoria, which is something I just don't get.
Episode 20: Talisman - a good Kwatche Cave mythology episode.
Episode 21: Accelerate - not a real strong group of episodes in this group IMO. But I do enjoy the characters with superspeed. I thought the graveyard scene with the frozen raindrops was pretty cool.

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In regards to Infamous, it just disappointed me. From the word go, we all guessed there would be time reversal, so i couldn't find myself getting exicted when Clark decided to out himself to the world; as i knew it would go wrong. He was proved to be wrong, which i really despise; Chloe was made out to be right about what would happen when he revealed his secret. Plus, i really can't stand Linda Lake. Thats probably cause she was played by Tori Spelling though.

You knew the Apocalypse episode would get "reveresed" too though. And I don't think you're SUPPOSED to like Linda Lake/Tori Spelling.

[Nanda Lane]

Episode 19- Nemesis
Episode 20- Talisman
Episode 21- Oracle

[rockyshadow]

I think my choices may start up another debate, but here they are.

Episode 19 - Stiletto
Episode 20 - Noir
Episode 21 - Prototype

[tyson08]

Episode 19: Blank
Episode 20: Talisman
Episode 21: Oracle

[Jlvsclrk]

Episode 19 - Memoria or Blank, Memoria or Blank. Agh, its like having to choose between children. But for the epic moments, especially the glimpse of baby Kal-El being placed in the ship, I have to say Memoria.

Episode 20 - can I put Blank in here? Pretty please?? No? Then I guess it has to go to Arctic, which has some good moments revolving around Kara/Brainiac, then the Clex confrontation in the FOS. That disappointed though me for being so short, and I hated the proposal scene for Chimmy - well, I generally dislike all things Chimmy. Agh, I hate having to chose one of these to go on a "best of" list. This is certainly a candidate for worst slot of the series.

Episode 21 - Tempest. I feel like I should handicap it since it is a big budget season finale, but then again it is a wonderfully episode and not rushed like all too many finales would wind up being. Once that wondrous tease is over, the pace slows right down and then slowly gains momentum as the winds pick up outside. Loved the dance, the Luthor infighting, even the Whitney send off. AlMiles certainly knew how to write when they put their minds to it. (Pilot, Rosetta, Memoria...)

I have to say that even though I didn't vote for it and could go on for weeks about why, I still am glad Rosetta won.

[BadToad]

Episode 19 - Nemesis
Episode 20 - Talisman (but really, none totally thrilled me)
Episode 21 -Tempest

[Supsfan]

Episode 19:Stilleto

Yet another fun episode that doesn't take itself to seriously. Great ending scene.

Episode 20: Talisman

This should be fun on the worst episode thread(Noir, Ageless and Beast are all sub par in my books) but Talisman definantly stands out above the rest that are average to very poor. On the subject of Artic, while I liked the episode it sort of dissapointing it can't beat out a 20th episode, as good as Talisman was.

Episode 21: Tempest

Sort of sucks that Tempest is unfairly going up against non season enders(I liked both Prototype and Oracle) but still it was heads and shoulders above the others on the list. In all fairness it might be better putting all season enders against eachother and maybe you can double up for S2 on E21 with Calling

[lana 9]

episode 19 nemesis
episode 20obscura
episode 21 accelerate

[Supsfan]

episode 21 accelerate

I personally found the Lana stalker in this episode a wee bit over the top. I actually didn't mind the second time she came back though. I thought they should have brought a 90 year old Emily back for Lana's season 8 storyline (stalking her) for a good laugh

[Dr. Walden]

Episode 19-Nemesis-Memoria and Nemesis are both so spectacular. Nemesis was just such a turning point in the Clex relationship. Memoria was a turning point in the Lex-Lionel relationship. Memoria may have had the bigger impact the first time when Lex confronted Lionel, but overall I think Nemesis was just a much more entertaining episode beginning to end.

Episode 20-Talisman-Uh, none of the above? This was one of my least favorite of Season 3. I never much liked the Native American aspect of the caves storyline. Obscura was okay. Noir has grown on me a little bit, but it is just way too cheesy, and Jimmy can't be the lead in an episode.

Episode 21-Tempest-One of Season 1's strongest efforts. So much going on, but it never felt too fast-paced or rushed (something Season 1 does better than most other seasons). Accelerate is a personal favorite of mine too, but it doesn't touch Tempest.

[HeroesUnlimited]

Episode 19: Stilleto

Yet another fun episode that doesn't take itself to seriously. Great ending scene.

Stilleto is arguably one of the worst episodes of the entire series. I can't believe it got a vote. I hated so many things about that episode. Lois faking news stories. The cheesy Stiletto alter ego. No consequences whatsoever to Lois. Ugh. What a train wreck.

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I personally found the Lana stalker in this episode a wee bit over the top. I actually didn't mind the second time she came back though. I thought they should have brought a 90 year old Emily back for Lana's season 8 storyline (stalking her) for a good laugh

Yeah, Emily and Tina Greer need to fight it out for dibs on Lana, lol

[Supsfan]

Stilleto is arguably one of the worst episodes of the entire series. I can't believe it got a vote. I hated so many things about that episode. Lois faking news stories. The cheesy Stiletto alter ego. No consequences whatsoever to Lois. Ugh. What a train wreck.

I will admit it was somewhat cheesy, but I find the more the show strays away from all the "drama" the better off it is. Just going on the second half of S8, I found epsiodes like Eternal and Beast to be much worse then Stilleto trying to retcon previous stuff on the show and/or having a very dark angsty storylines. In general I enjoy the "angst free" episodes more then other stuff(as seen in me picking Heat, Perry, Hydro, Krypto, Lucy, Hex and Spirit for instance in the previous rounds, if I could I would also add Committed and Run to that list)

In the case of Stiletto, we have Lois going out to try get a story, and Clark saving the day in the end, with a nice touching scene to finish it off where we actually see Clark happy for a change.


Yeah, Emily and Tina Greer need to fight it out for dibs on Lana, lol

Along with Bug Boy and the guard from Trespass

[SGuthrie27]

Episode 19 - There are actually more interesting episodes in this group than I thought there were... "Crush" and "Mercy" are two that I like a lot for various reasons, but they're hardly #1 material. I did like "Stiletto" this season -- it had a good blend of humor, iconic moments, and menace, while helping Lois win a lesson, but it still doesn't surpass my favorite... "Nemesis" was also really good, defining Clark and Lex's friend/enemyship as it used to be and as it now is, while putting Lana in an interesting predicament... but it's still not quite good enough for me. "Memoria" had some incredible Lex AND Clark flashbacks in it, while returning to Summerholt, but it still falls slightly short of my favorite... which is going to be... "Blank!" I absolutely adore "Blank!" It's one of my all-time favorite episodes. It has the perfect mix of all the characters, it was a great way of having Clark reevaluate everything in his life from a "blank slate" perspective, and had some great Chlark moments... especially the "You trusted me" line at the end. It'd take something pretty spectacular to knock this episode off its pedestal for me.

Episode 20 - I actually had the order of all my episodes already picked out and ranked, but I'm changing my vote again... I had originally chosen "Arctic" for this spot, but as I look back on it, it wasn't as strong a season finale as it could've been. Having Lana booted out offscreen with a break-up video (that we later found out was forced by Tess) was lame. Kara getting shunted into the Phantom Zone without any fanfare was also pretty sad. And, the last climactic scene between Clark and Lex could've gone on much longer and maybe even included some sort of fight. It was still great, but I have to go with a different one this time... For me, it's all about "Obscura." Now, I know some people think this episode is either overrated or lame, but it was a nice twist on the FOTW plot stereotype, with Lana getting the powers for an episode, and a criminal having no powers at all, with great Chlark moments abounding throughout it! It also set things up very well for the finale. So, I am definitely sticking with my vote on "Obscura!"

Episode 21 - There's no contest for me here. Many of the penultimate episodes of seasons were not put together very well for me... sorry. "Oracle" probably comes closest to being at the top spot, but nothing can touch the awe-inspiring greatness of "Tempest!" I loved everything about it -- Clark had meaningful interactions with pretty much every character on the show, Lex and Lana both had to make really tough choices, the threat level of Roger Nixon ratched up a few notches, the tornado parts were breathtaking, the ship glowing and opening was amazing, and I don't think you'd have any trouble guessing how I feel about the Chlarky goodness of the Spring Formal. :D "Tempest" rocks the house!

--SGuthrie ><>' :)--

[Dr. Walden]

I will admit it was somewhat cheesy, but I find the more the show strays away from all the "drama" the better off it is. Just going on the second half of S8, I found epsiodes like Eternal and Beast to be much worse then Stilleto trying to retcon previous stuff on the show and/or having a very dark angsty storylines. In general I enjoy the "angst free" episodes more then other stuff(as seen in me picking Heat, Perry, Hydro, Krypto, Lucy, Hex and Spirit for instance in the previous rounds, if I could I would also add Committed and Run to that list)

In the case of Stiletto, we have Lois going out to try get a story, and Clark saving the day in the end, with a nice touching scene to finish it off where we actually see Clark happy for a change.



Along with Bug Boy and the guard from Trespass

It's funny, because I always find the fun to be very forced (like in Lucy, Spirit, most of season 4), with a few exceptions (Heat, Hex, Krypto). I think the show naturally tends towards drama. I do enjoy when little moments of fun are mixed in with the drama though (such as in Nicodemus and Crimson).

[Supsfan]

It's funny, because I always find the fun to be very forced (like in Lucy, Spirit, most of season 4), with a few exceptions (Heat, Hex, Krypto). I think the show naturally tends towards drama. I do enjoy when little moments of fun are mixed in with the drama though (such as in Nicodemus and Crimson).

I would disagree, I find when the show is trying to give us these heavy dramatic storylines(Clexana, Chlavis, etc) it just feels forced then(usually in the sense they need to somehow shoehorn there female lead into a storyline that has absolutely nothing to do with a Superman based show but is full of romantic angst)

I said it before and will say it again, but the main reason I like Lois is most of the episodes she is in with alot Clark, they cut out all the "drama" crap and have episodes were Clark comes off well adjusted and for the most part happy with his life. I know episodes like Lucy, Facade, Devoted, Stiletto, Exposed, etc. might not be everbody's cup of tea but I find them more entertaining then alot of the depressing crap the show tries shoveling at us.

[skully]

Episode 19 - Nemesis - Pretty strong field, but this epi just shades Blank and Memoria.

Episode 20 - Noir - IMHO a much underrated episode, as opposed to the much overrated Talisman.

Episode 21 - Oracle - led nicely into the Finale and just shades Tempest.

[marcella]

Episode 19: Stilletto
Episode 20: Obscura
Episode 21: Tempest

[Jaderoyale]

Episode 19 - Nemesis
Episode 20 - Talisman
Episode 21 - Oracle

Finally! Clark and Lex can somehow talk about their differences (ie; Lana :\). What i liked about this episode, is it was the most screentime TW and MR got together during S6 and they really nailed it. Those two just bounce right off each other and its a joy to watch.
The episode as a whole was pretty solid (except for Lana ready to let Lex die till she found out Clark was down there -rolls eyes-)
Last year i think i voted for Blank, yes the episode is enjoyable, but thinking more about it Nemesis tips it for me.

AH. Talisman. When we were convinced Lex was Sageeth -shakes fist at Tess in Eternal-
This episode had GREAT mythology from the caves coming together, at least they brought the mythology back and didn't let it get swallowed in a plothole. There was great action and suspense. Jonathon healing Clark particularly was great IMO.

Its a shame Tempest is in with the 21st episodes, as it really is a great Season finale. HOWEVER, Oracle was just fantastic. I LOVE John Glover as it is, so any episode with him centred or playing a larger part is a better off episode. Throughout the season, after Lionel had the videotape of Clark, it was always wondered if he was there to help him or hurt him, and all was revealed. It was nice to see Pa Kent again, but sad in the circumstances that it wasn't him. "I wrote it" - line delievered so powerfuly by JG. Not to mention TW was great as Clark. The scene where "Jonathon" is telling him to kill Lionel in the barn is great, you can see how torn/confused he is.

[costas22]

Episode 19 - Memoria
Episode 20 - Arctic
Episode 21 - Oracle


- 19 is a good bunch of episodes. Crush was a good outing that set in motion the short Chlark romance. To be honest, i don't remember much from Precipice. I do remember Lex teaching Lana to fight though. Memoria is one of the best episodes i
have seen on Smallville. A top 3 in my book. The last 2 scenes are fantastic. Blank is also a favorite of mine. I liked the Chlark scenes.Mercy was a good idea as an episode(even though i believe it was influened from a certain brand). It was ok. Nemesis is a wonderful episode as well. One of the last Clex heavy episodes we had. Their scenes together were great. I love Clark being heroic without his powers. Quest was another episode influenced by a movie, but it was also very well pulled off. The last Lex heavy episode we had. I didn't like Stiletto much. I recognise the iconic moments of it, but it was a bit cheesy and too dark for my liking. Not one of Dries' best efforts. Poor Shelby. On that note, the scene with Clark taking the bullet was great. The last Clark-Lois-Jimmy in action scene we will get. :( My pick: Memoria.

- 20 doesn't have a lot of good episodes. Obscura was ok. Witness was good and i liked the determination of Clark in that. Talisman was a fine episode. Ageless wasn't my ideal storyline. Fade could have been a lot better, but it focused too much on Clexana. Noir is a unique episode. The directing and the conversion into the black and white scenes were fantastic. The problem was that it was a bit out of touch with the build up to the season finale. But i do see it in a different light after the recent Jimmy developments. Arctic was one of the worst season finales. It had a lot going for it, but in the end it was very disjointed. Maybe they should have left some stuff for Quest. Not the ideal way for Lex to go out. Beast wasn't good in my opinion. While Eternal had a purpose behind it, this one didn't. Like a lot of fans, i hated the scene in the FOS. It was pretty simple what should have happened, yet they opted to make Chloe look bad and Clark look helpless. And things got worse 2 episodes later. My pick: Arctic (just beat Noir).

- Tempest was a good finale. Accellerate had an interesting plot, but it wasn't anything special. Forsaken was a very good episode that helped shape Covenant. I love Lionel's creepy last line. Forever was a filler, but it cracks me up everytime i see Lana hitting that guy from behind with the wooden crate. Oracle was one of Dries' best efforts. It had to deal with a lot of stuff and it was very well balanced. Prototype was a very good episode. It set up Phantom well. Injustice is a very good episode. It was also very dark, but it was nicely structured by Septien/Meyer. Loved the Clark-Tess final scene. Still waiting to see what the orb is about. My pick: Oracle.

[avisray1992]

Episode 19 - Nemesis
Episode 20 - Obscura
Episode 21 - Forever

[Saph]

Episode 19: Blank
Episode 20: Obscura
Episode 21: Tempest

[LordOnox]

Episode 19 - Nemesis
Episode 20 - Talisman
Episode 21 - Tempest

[smallvillefreak24]

Episode 19 - Nemesis

Episode 20 - Obscura

Episode 21 - Tempest

Ep 19 is a toughie. There are so many great episodes in this category. Nemesis gets the #1 spot. It is probably the best of s6. We got to revisit the clex friendship and hash out issues. Whole thing was very enjoyable. Memoria would probably take 2nd. The episode is overrated and can be slow at times, but the last two scenes are some of the best of the series. A look in to lex's past was awesome. 3rd would be blank. I adore this episode. The chlark moments and even clana moments were spot on. The characters interacted nicely. The fotw parts were a little slow for me which is the reason its not 1 or 2. Stiletto and Mercy would probably tie for 4th. I really liked stiletto. There were some kinks to it and it certainly wasnt great, but overall it was a good ep. It was funny and i loved clark taking the bullet. Mercy has great lionel - martha stuff. I always thought there was something there and I'm surprised they never really explored it further. (i wish martha went to the funeral). Crush and Precipice tie for 6th. I also liked both of these episodes. Crush had good chlark and i like adam brody. I love lex in precipice and the teaching lana to fight stuff. Lastly Quest. I just really didn't care for this ep. I hated the veritas storyline and this was just one more nail in the coffin. great bunch of eps.

One more unfair thing about the episode wars, i would have voted most of the 19s and top if it was in teh 20 spot. I didn't love any of these episodes. Obscura was the most enjoyable imo. Beast was not the best of s8, but i thought it was good. The final scene was great and i liked most of the ep. I almost wanted to vote for ageless. Partly to spite all those who have such hatred for it and partly because i really like the episode. clark and lana with the baby was so cute. Talisman is fine but i don't know why it is so overrated. Given, i do love when jonathan heals clark. But jeremiah was just creepy. Witness was also fine. Arctic should have been better. I feel like that sums up my feelings toward it. I loved when brainiac came after chloe and lois comforting clark. overall it is pretty good, but it is demoted because as a season finale it should have been great. MR final episode :(. Noir's ok but pretty boring. Fade i didn't like at all.

I feel like Tempest and Arctic should be in the season finale category and calling should be in the 21 category because its the penultimate episode but w/e floats your boat i guess. Tempest is the best of s1 and was great from front to back. I don't know where i rate the others so i'll just comment. I thought injustice was kind of a letdown and i didn't really care for it. Prototype was o.k. but where did that storyline go anyway. Lex was building an army and then just dropped it? w/e anyway Forsaken was fine. The older emily was pretty creepy though. I liked accelerate a lot and the effects were good. younger emily also creepy but less. I never liked oracle as much as everyone else but it was a pretty good episode i guess. Forever was a good farewell to smallville high

[vyperman7]

***Is there a gliche on K-Site? I tried accessing this page a few minutes ago and it said that the thread was closed!

I closed it temporarily, because the round had ended and I wanted to tally all the votes and start the next round without having to worry about somebody coming in and making a vote after the round ended.


Sort of sucks that Tempest is unfairly going up against non season enders(I liked both Prototype and Oracle) but still it was heads and shoulders above the others on the list. In all fairness it might be better putting all season enders against eachother and maybe you can double up for S2 on E21 with Calling

In all honesty, the fact that Tempest is a S1 finale is purely irrelevant based on the concept of the game. The game is based solely on episode number. I have never liked it when people say "It is unfair to put a finale in with regular episodes because other episodes get overshadowed". You aren't forced to automatically vote for a finale, just because it is a finale. You vote for the episode you like best. It is simple. If you like an episode more than Tempest, vote for it..LOL It is the way that it has always been set up, and that is the way that it is staying.


I think my choices may start up another debate, but here they are.

Episode 19 - Stiletto

Personally, I think that fans of Lois would hate Stiletto because of how bad it made her look. Lois Lane is supposed to have journalistic integrity. However, I guess the only thing that matters on Smallville is that her name is Lois Lane, and that she becomes a reporter in the end. It doesn't really matter what happens in between. I mean, isn't that the attitude they have taken with basically all the main mythology characters?

I wish the writers had more respect for her character as a whole. They spent so much time on pointless storylines for her, instead of spending the time developing her as a reporter in training (which they should have done). They spend two years having her do everything but reporting (including dropping out of college and serving coffee), and even she says she hates reporting many times and that she has no desire to be one. Then in the flick of a "lightswitch", she becomes one. Then after only a year at the Inquisitor, she gets hired at the DP on a whim with no real experience or degree, and then proceeds to sleep with her editor. To make matters even worse, she proceeds to act like she is some veteran big shot that knows everything about reporting. This bugs me the most about her. She is still green herself. Then for the straw that broke the camel's back, she eventually makes up a story out of thin air to get ahead. The writers really haven't done much to paint her in a positive light. Coming in, I wanted to like this version of Lois. I have always really liked Lois Lane in every other Superman medium and Clois was always my favorite pairing. I will say this though, S8 was the first season to actually get me into Clois. I still don't really like Lois though.

[Supsfan]

Personally, I think that fans of Lois would hate Stiletto because of how bad it made her look. Lois Lane is supposed to have journalistic integrity. However, I guess the only thing that matters on Smallville is that her name is Lois Lane, and that she becomes a reporter in the end. It doesn't really matter what happens in between. I mean, isn't that the attitude they have taken with basically all the main mythology characters?

The Stiletto article is more of an ends to a means(ie hunting down the Red Blue Blur) then an actual article. Many other Lois' have gone to extreme to try hunt down Superman in other media and if you look at quoting yourself as lack of journalistic integrity then how many other media have Clark quoting Superman?


I wish the writers had more respect for her character as a whole.

While I can agree with that, I wish the writers would have more respect for Clark myself, still doesn't make me not like him in the big picture. I think nobody on this show gets trashed more then how they should be then Clark. I can make the same statement at times on how they treat Lex as well. Lana also is nothing like I would expect her comic counterpart either.


They spent so much time on pointless storylines for her, instead of spending the time developing her as a reporter in training (which they should have done).

Can't really say I am a fan of anything in Season 7 reguards Lois. But hey the writers got there "drama" with the ill concieved Grois relationship. I never personally understood why they didn't throw Lois a bone for instance in Descent and show her and Jimmy actually getting an article(what was the point of Veritas basically)


Then after only a year at the Inquisitor, she gets hired at the DP on a whim with no real experience or degree, and then proceeds to sleep with her editor.

I don't think anybody's introduction to the DP has been that wonderful(let's face it Lois, Clark and Chloe all don't have degrees yet they somehow managed to get a job there, which makes you have to suspend belief about the importance of a College education on the show), especially the star of the show Clark Kents. I am guessing the producers are to busy thinking up storylines involving Lana to care about anybody else.

[HeroesUnlimited]

I closed it temporarily, because the round had ended and I wanted to tally all the votes and start the next round without having to worry about somebody coming in and making a vote after the round ended.

Oh wow! I didn't know you could do that. I figured once it was closed, it was closed. I got worried!

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Then after only a year at the Inquisitor, she gets hired at the DP on a whim with no real experience or degree, and then proceeds to sleep with her editor. To make matters even worse, she proceeds to act like she is some veteran big shot that knows everything about reporting.

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

[MrsK]

Episode 19- Blank - just edges out Nemesis and Memoria
Episode 20- Arctic - not a great finale, but it was still a good episode. I also like Noir, Obsucura, and Talisman
Episode 21- Oracle

[Lex Dance]

Episode 19: Memoria
Episode 20: Talisman
Episode 21: Tempest


Although sadly, I fear [Quest] has no chance given all of the love for Memoria, which is something I just don't get.
I highly doubt any votes for Memoria will affect the outcome! :lol: In fact Nemesis has beaten Memoria for the last two years and looks like doing so again. Although it's interesting that some still consider Memoria a close second in this round. A lot of people on this thread have used the word overrated to describe it, and it certainly seems that there's been a sea change in terms of popular opinion towards the episode. Some seem to accuse it of being slow-paced and lacking action, but I guess it depends on what you want out of an episode of Smallville. Personally I'm not bothered by the "never had a decent fight scene" tag that the show gets labelled with. One of the things that first got me interested in Smallville was the look of the show, the use of colour and light, as well as the excellent interaction between Lex and Lionel. So for me, Memoria ticks all the boxes. And that's before you even start going into the plot with its incredible revelation, as well as the way it echoed Clark's relationship with his two mothers and the revelation of sorts we get with the memory of Krypton and Clark's first word. In my opinion it's the perfect episode of Smallville; not a line of dialogue is wasted and every scene has something of worth, narratively and visually. In fact I rate it as my favourite episode of any tv show of any genre.

As for Talisman, it easily wins in a poor category. However I love the episode for the final scene alone. The Lex/Clark conversation captures one of my favourite ideas in the Superman mythology - that Lex's raison d'etre is to keep Superman in check. And as for the "retcon" in Eternal, I still think Tess' misinterpretation is just a red herring to make Clark accept his fate. Whether or not Tess knew that she was misinterpreting the myth remains to be seen......

Ah, Tempest. I've been watching a lot of S1 recently. It's such a great episode. That first scene at the LuthorCorps plant sets the tone brilliantly, and the ending is still one of my favourite cliff-hangers of the entire series. That howling wind before the credits left me feeling punched in the stomach.

You aren't forced to automatically vote for a finale, just because it is a finale. You vote for the episode you like best. It is simple. If you like an episode more than Tempest, vote for it..LOL It is the way that it has always been set up, and that is the way that it is staying.
True true! I've never prescribed to the notion that season premieres and finales should be any more special than any other episode (in this game or in general). As good as some premieres and finales are, more often than not they are flawed in some way.

[rockyshadow]

Episode 19: Memoria
Episode 20: Talisman
Episode 21: Tempest


I highly doubt any votes for Memoria will affect the outcome! :lol: In fact Nemesis has beaten Memoria for the last two years and looks like doing so again. Although it's interesting that some still consider Memoria a close second in this round. A lot of people on this thread have used the word overrated to describe it, and it certainly seems that there's been a sea change in terms of popular opinion towards the episode. Some seem to accuse it of being slow-paced and lacking action, but I guess it depends on what you want out of an episode of Smallville. Personally I'm not bothered by the "never had a decent fight scene" tag that the show gets labelled with. One of the things that first got me interested in Smallville was the look of the show, the use of colour and light, as well as the excellent interaction between Lex and Lionel. So for me, Memoria ticks all the boxes. And that's before you even start going into the plot with its incredible revelation, as well as the way it echoed Clark's relationship with his two mothers and the revelation of sorts we get with the memory of Krypton and Clark's first word. In my opinion it's the perfect episode of Smallville; not a line of dialogue is wasted and every scene has something of worth, narratively and visually. In fact I rate it as my favourite episode of any tv show of any genre.

As for Talisman, it easily wins in a poor category. However I love the episode for the final scene alone. The Lex/Clark conversation captures one of my favourite ideas in the Superman mythology - that Lex's raison d'etre is to keep Superman in check. And as for the "retcon" in Eternal, I still think Tess' misinterpretation is just a red herring to make Clark accept his fate. Whether or not Tess knew that she was misinterpreting the myth remains to be seen......

Ah, Tempest. I've been watching a lot of S1 recently. It's such a great episode. That first scene at the LuthorCorps plant sets the tone brilliantly, and the ending is still one of my favourite cliff-hangers of the entire series. That howling wind before the credits left me feeling punched in the stomach.

True true! I've never prescribed to the notion that season premieres and finales should be any more special than any other episode (in this game or in general). As good as some premieres and finales are, more often than not they are flawed in some way.

I agree about Smallville cinematography. Memoria is a beautifully shot episode and I still enjoy it to this day for that as well as the story.

[vyperman7]

Ah, Tempest. I've been watching a lot of S1 recently. It's such a great episode. That first scene at the LuthorCorps plant sets the tone brilliantly, and the ending is still one of my favourite cliff-hangers of the entire series. That howling wind before the credits left me feeling punched in the stomach.

S1 is my second favorite season after S3. It is extremely underrated. I know that it was more of a stand alone season. However, the dialogue and characterization of the characters are amazing. Clark was more like Superman in S1 then has been through out the rest of the show, and Lana was written as a secondary character behind Clark and Lex. They had her as the love interest and girl next door. That is who Lana Lang is supposed to be. Lex was a great character as well because you could see small shades of grey, mixed in with his good guy exterior. The first season represents what the show was supposed to be. A look at how Clark and Lex develop into who they will become during the period before Metropolis. Somehow now we have Clark and Lois working at the DP, we have seen two different Jimmy Olsen's, along with Zod, Bizarro, Green Arrow/JLA, and a countless number of other characters who aren't supposed to be around in Clark's life yet. How they can still call the show Smallville is beyond me.

[Supsfan]

Somehow now we have Clark and Lois working at the DP, we have seen two different Jimmy Olsen's, along with Zod, Bizarro, Green Arrow/JLA, and a countless number of other characters who aren't supposed to be around in Clark's life yet. How they can still call the show Smallville is beyond me.

I can sort of understand what you are saying but at the same time we had a Young Clark Kent who is friends with Lex Luthor at the same time. I know you can find some comics with that storyline but it usually not considered official canon. You could also find comics with Young Clark and Young Lois being in the same place

[Spirit Detective]

Episode 19 - Nemesis
Episode 20 - Talisman
Episode 21 - Oracle

[Devoted2CK]

19. Memoria
20. Talisman
21. Tempest

[Dr. Walden]

One of the things I love most about Season 1, which I may have already mentioned (rewatching right now and it keeps proving to be true) is how great the pacing is. Though FOTW made for lots of standalone episodes and some clunkers (if the FOTW just didn't work), it left plenty of time in each episode to focus on smaller details of Clark's life and his relationships that I feel go by the wayside in the later, more plot-driven seasons. And that's what really endeared me to the show in the first place.

[Jlvsclrk]

One of the things I love most about Season 1, which I may have already mentioned (rewatching right now and it keeps proving to be true) is how great the pacing is. Though FOTW made for lots of standalone episodes and some clunkers (if the FOTW just didn't work), it left plenty of time in each episode to focus on smaller details of Clark's life and his relationships that I feel go by the wayside in the later, more plot-driven seasons. And that's what really endeared me to the show in the first place.

I agree about the relationships in S1: they were a lot more charming back then, and done with a much lighter hand. I was just watching Cool, and the freak bit is quite ho-hum, but the lead up to the not-date with Lana was so amusing - especially watching Clark snatch the tickets away from Lex, everyone teasing him about his good spirits, and Chloe's advice to "burn this" in reference to one of his god awful shirts.

[Lex Dance]

S1 is my second favorite season after S3. It is extremely underrated. I know that it was more of a stand alone season. However, the dialogue and characterization of the characters are amazing. Clark was more like Superman in S1 then has been through out the rest of the show, and Lana was written as a secondary character behind Clark and Lex. They had her as the love interest and girl next door. That is who Lana Lang is supposed to be. Lex was a great character as well because you could see small shades of grey, mixed in with his good guy exterior. The first season represents what the show was supposed to be. A look at how Clark and Lex develop into who they will become during the period before Metropolis. Somehow now we have Clark and Lois working at the DP, we have seen two different Jimmy Olsen's, along with Zod, Bizarro, Green Arrow/JLA, and a countless number of other characters who aren't supposed to be around in Clark's life yet. How they can still call the show Smallville is beyond me.
It seems a lot of people are watching S1 at the moment - maybe we're looking for a bit of solace after the turmoil of Doomsday? :) I even watched Craving yesterday expecting it to be lame after the comments I often read on here (I haven't seen it for something like 5 years), but actually I really enjoyed it. It's like Dr Walden is saying, all those episodes had something of real value even if the FOTW was a bit hackneyed. I actually like all the freaks in their own way because they lent a real Twilight Zone feel to the show (I love all that B-movie kind of stuff), and I thought that meteor rocks allowed the writers license to play around with some schlock but to also infuse it with some real eeriness at times. It only really got tiring the more and more they got obsessed with Lana (see Trespass! :lol:)
So for instance, in Craving there's some really good stuff between Lex and Dr Hamilton - I love the way that we see snippets of Lex's ruthlessness when he threatens Dr Hamilton with his dodgy relationships with University students. I watched Rogue (an excellent episode for a whole load of reasons) but I loved how we got glimpses of the future - "Tell me what you have on Clark!" is such a great line. Up until that point we know that Lex is intrigued by Clark, but that line to the dying Phaelon really indicates the obsession that's starting to eat away at him. Wonderful stuff.
Smallville in that first 3 seasons just got better and better for me.

[Supsfan]

It seems a lot of people are watching S1 at the moment - maybe we're looking for a bit of solace after the turmoil of Doomsday? :) I even watched Craving yesterday expecting it to be lame after the comments I often read on here (I haven't seen it for something like 5 years), but actually I really enjoyed it. It's like Dr Walden is saying, all those episodes had something of real value even if the FOTW was a bit hackneyed. I actually like all the freaks in their own way because they lent a real Twilight Zone feel to the show (I love all that B-movie kind of stuff), and I thought that meteor rocks allowed the writers license to play around with some schlock but to also infuse it with some real eeriness at times. It only really got tiring the more and more they got obsessed with Lana (see Trespass! :lol:)

There were some sub par episodes in S1, but if I had to pick the first episode of the series that was complete nonsense it would be S2E05: Nocturne

[Lex Dance]

There were some sub par episodes in S1, but if I had to pick the first episode of the series that was complete nonsense it would be S2E05: Nocturne
For me, the first episode that made me feel that way was Ageless. I actually couldn't believe what I was watching - it just didn't seem like Smallville! Despite there being episodes that were obviously not as good as others, I can honestly say I enjoyed every episode - like I said before, maybe it's the B-movie fan in me! :lol:

[Supsfan]

For me, the first episode that made me feel that way was Ageless. I actually couldn't believe what I was watching - it just didn't seem like Smallville! Despite there being episodes that were obviously not as good as others, I can honestly say I enjoyed every episode - like I said before, maybe it's the B-movie fan in me! :lol:

I just rewatched Ageless, terrible episode other then a couple good unintentional laughs. I didn't care for the "kid who Clark gets close to" dieing storyline in Ryan, and it's even worse when it's an exploding teenager who teaches Clark and Lana the joys of parenthood.

I am guessing they were trying to recreate Ryan, only this time with Clark and Lana and a windmill instead of a hot air balloon

[Clark/Lois-fan]

19. Memoria
20. Noir
21. Prototype

[Dr. Walden]

I just rewatched Ageless, terrible episode other then a couple good unintentional laughs. I didn't care for the "kid who Clark gets close to" dieing storyline in Ryan, and it's even worse when it's an exploding teenager who teaches Clark and Lana the joys of parenthood.

I am guessing they were trying to recreate Ryan, only this time with Clark and Lana and a windmill instead of a hot air balloon

I feel like after Stray and Ryan, they were desperate to try to recreate the Ryan magic, and their efforts consisted of Ageless, Fragile, and Subterranean. Look how that worked out.

[Glove]

19. Nemesis
20. Ageless
21. Tempest

[Lex Dance]

You have amazing comic timing, Glove! ;)

[Night_Hawk90]

Memoria- the last scenes between clark/martha and lex/lionel made this episode so special, it makes me miss the unique dynamic this show use to possess. The best written episode of the entire series.

Talisman

Forsaken

Nemesis was okay episode but it was basically clark and lex arguing about the same stuff they always argue about nothing special about this episode at all. I can't believe this episode has so many votes.

[Jlvsclrk]

Nemesis was okay episode but it was basically clark and lex arguing about the same stuff they always argue about nothing special about this episode at all. I can't believe this episode has so many votes.

I rank Nemesis 3rd of the 19s but that's not to say I didn't like it. I thought that perhaps the main problem of the show was that after Season 5, Clark and Lex never got to spend any time together other than squabbling over Lana. So I have to like an episode where they have to work together despite their problems. And it feels like such a poignant call back to the glory days of their relationship in S1 - the elevator shaft scene in particular reminds me of Jitters.

[Supsfan]

I feel like after Stray and Ryan, they were desperate to try to recreate the Ryan magic, and their efforts consisted of Ageless, Fragile, and Subterranean. Look how that worked out.

As I said I didn't really care for Ryan, the whole people dieing off in Clark's life who he gets close to is way overused on this show. I do agree the 3 episodes mentioned definantly tried to copy the formula of Stray/Ryan though and failed to different degrees

[Lex Dance]

Memoria- the last scenes between clark/martha and lex/lionel made this episode so special, it makes me miss the unique dynamic this show use to possess. The best written episode of the entire series.

Talisman

Forsaken

Nemesis was okay episode but it was basically clark and lex arguing about the same stuff they always argue about nothing special about this episode at all. I can't believe this episode has so many votes.
I've often said that, for me, Memoria is the creative high point of Smallville. Everything came together so beautifully and poignantly. Despite there being some excellent episodes after S3, I totally agree that afterwards the "unique dynamic" you refer to started to ebb away. However I also loved Nemesis, purely because it was a chance for TW and MR to have some screentime together. This was always going to be the problem once Clark and Lex began to fall out, especially over a girl - this truncating of one of Smallville's successful partnerships. I think the same could be argued of the Lex/Lionel dynamic once they started to change Lionel's personality.

[MrsK]

I just rewatched Ageless, terrible episode other then a couple good unintentional laughs. I didn't care for the "kid who Clark gets close to" dieing storyline in Ryan, and it's even worse when it's an exploding teenager who teaches Clark and Lana the joys of parenthood.


The Lionel/Genevieve parts of Ageless were quite good.

[Supsfan]

The Lionel/Genevieve parts of Ageless were quite good.

That was about all that was good on the episode though and that was what about 4 minutes? Ageless definantly fits into my worst 5 episodes ever list.

[MrsK]

Didn't we have this discussion on the Worst Episode thread yesterday? :p

I'm not a big Ageless fan - far from it! My point is that even in the worst episodes, there is always something worth watching.

[Supsfan]

I'm not a big Ageless fan - far from it! My point is that even in the worst episodes, there is always something worth watching.

Promise and Power prove you wrong :p

[CallMeClark]

Episode 19 - Blank

Episode 20 - Talisman (Sadly I really didn't like any!)

Episode 21 - Injustice

[MrsK]

Promise and Power prove you wrong :p
Well, you may be right. I'm having a hard time thinking of anything to like about Power...:\

[Supsfan]

Well, you may be right. I'm having a hard time thinking of anything to like about Power...:\

I guess is i was really grasping for straws, in Promise the Clark/Shelby scene was cute. Hardly enough to salvage the rest of the episode(I loathed Clexana and anything related to it)

[Night_Hawk90]

I guess is i was really grasping for straws, in Promise the Clark/Shelby scene was cute. Hardly enough to salvage the rest of the episode(I loathed Clexana and anything related to it)

im gonna be honest i actually liked promise lex killing that doctor was pretty intense scene all in all i enjoyed it. Obviously i hate seeing a weak clark kent but i understand where hes coming from.

[MrsK]

I didn't hate Promise either. I really enjoyed the 3 different perspectives. Just hated how pathetic Clark became at the end, though.

[HeroesUnlimited]

Well, you may be right. I'm having a hard time thinking of anything to like about Power...:\

The end credits weren't bad... ;)

[MrsK]

:lol:

[Dr. Walden]

Lucy is the one episode I have the hardest time picking out positives from. In the end my list reads:

1. Super jump

[Supsfan]

Lucy is the one episode I have the hardest time picking out positives from. In the end my list reads:

1. Super jump

1. Clark goes an entire episode without self pity or feeling depressed(sadly on SV this is considered a big point). We can add to the fact at the end of the episode Clark is happy

2. Clark puts the puzzle together and saves the day(a hero doing his own thinking and being proactive in reguards to to being a hero, sadly S5-S7 regressed bigtime from this)

On a personal preference

1. I enjoy the subtle humor in the episode
2. Great character building episode for Lois, background into her life
3. One of the better Lois & Clark scenes(barn) ever on the show
4. I thought overall it was a strong episode for Lois & Clark's relationship in general

[Dr. Walden]

Supsfan,

I think Season 4 is definitely just one of those love it or hate it type things. Clark and Lois made me gag in Season 4 (luckily they finally fixed it in Season 8), I don't enjoy the way Lois's character was built, I feel Clark was a spectator for most of the season, and I didn't appreciate the humor. Clark was less self-deprecating for a lot of the season, I will admit, but I couldn't really enjoy it because I didn't like all the things you put under "personal preferences."

That being said, I really do love much of Season 4, as I love all of the seasons. Some of the moments where the humor worked (like in Spirit for example), it really was much more fun than some of the very heavy seasons of 3, 5 and 6.

[RaniaLovesClois]

Episode 19 - Nemesis
Episode 20 - Obscura
Episode 21 - Tempest

[vyperman7]

Round 7 completed. See results first page.

FINAL ROUND - Episode 22 - Ends July 9th 8PM pst...

Thanks to everyone for participating in this year's Episode Wars. The final round is here. As in the past, Calling and Exodus have been combined into one choice since S2 had 23 episodes in it.

Episode 22

S2-Calling/Exodus
S3-Covenant
S4-Commencement
S5-Vessel
S6-Phantom
S8-Doomsday

My Choice :

Episode 22-Covenant

I think we can all agree that Doomsday was a letdown, so of course it wasn't good enough to change my vote. I know the fan favorite in terms of finales is Commencement. However, my favorite is still S3's Covenant. The final ten minutes, all the Clex tension, Clark finding out he will fly one day, etc.. Great, great episode. Commencement is one that I didn't care for at first when I initially saw it on TV. After repeated DVD viewings, it has grown on me a lot, and I actually enjoy it now. Still not my favorite finale though. Calling/Exodus ranks a close second to Covenant, and I would put Commencement third.

[tyson08]

Episode 22: Commencement

[Night_Hawk90]

covenant- the ending montage just makes this episode the tops for me, i love clark finding the room that lex had dedicated to him, just an all around great episode.

close second phantom

[rockyshadow]

22. Phantom

[Supsfan]

Covenant

I personally am not a fan of (Smallville's) Jor-El, but he wasn't as terrible in the Covenant episode as say Calling/Exodus where it ruined the entire story.

In Commencement it wasn't a big annoyance but still took it down slightly and that was the deciding factor(for me picking Covenant). As much as I loved Season 4 in general when viewing each episode as a seperate identity, Commencement brought out the fact that the stones storyline had it's issues since Clark comes off looking bad for not really being involved in finding them.

[BadToad]

Episode 22 Covenant

[MrsK]

Calling/Exodus

[SGuthrie27]

Episode 22 - Commencement! No question about this one, here. I couldn't vote for anything else. Sure, the ending sequence of "Covenant" was amazing. Yes, the twists and turns of "Exodus" threw me for a loop. And sure, "Vessel" gave me the SWEET Chlark kiss I'd been waiting seasons for. But honestly, "Commencement" blows them all out of the water. It's so action-packed, exciting, and I'm a sucker for longer episodes when you're expecting the normal 60-minute variety. "Commencement" had it all, and then some!

--SGuthrie ><>' :)--

[Devoted2CK]

22. Commencement

[Dr. Walden]

Calling/Exodus

[Canary]

Commencement

[Jlvsclrk]

22. Commencement

Boy, this is hard. For me, except for the clearly infererior Doomsday, its almost a dead heat. They all have great moments that are countered by some elements that really bug me. Exodus hurts too badly knowing what will come - the more I watch this episode, the angrier I get at Jonathan for serving up platitudes at the beginning, then blaming Clark for taking action at the end. And then there's Covenant, with Kara systematically working to break Clark's connections to humanity. It's all very cruel, and creepy when she offers herself up as a sort of reward. Knowing Jor-El used an ordinary girl and seeing the way he turned her into a cold-blooded murderer makes me shudder. Commencement is an obvious pick for the spectacle of the second meteor shower and the wonderful save of the little boy, but I hated the stones story line so much and Jor-El's blame game rings false. Vessel I like as an episode but I take off a lot of points for plot illogic - I can never understand why stabbing Brainiac should open a portal for Zod - and I HATE it when the show punishes Clark for doing the right thing. Phantom is kinda ruined for me by the flip-flop of Lionel to good guy and the illogic of having all these people withhold vital information from Clark. So I've talked myself in circles at least twice now. I'll go with my gut instinct and say Commencement.

[skully]

Commencement.

[Devoted2CK]

22. Commencement

Boy, this is hard. For me, except for the clearly infererior Doomsday, its almost a dead heat. They all have great moments that are countered by some elements that really bug me. Exodus hurts too badly knowing what will come - the more I watch this episode, the angrier I get at Jonathan for serving up platitudes at the beginning, then blaming Clark for taking action at the end. And then there's Covenant, with Kara systematically working to break Clark's connections to humanity. It's all very cruel, and creepy when she offers herself up as a sort of reward. Knowing Jor-El used an ordinary girl and seeing the way he turned her into a cold-blooded murderer makes me shudder. Commencement is an obvious pick for the spectacle of the second meteor shower and the wonderful save of the little boy, but I hated the stones story line so much and Jor-El's blame game rings false. Vessel I like as an episode but I take off a lot of points for plot illogic - I can never understand why stabbing Brainiac should open a portal for Zod - and I HATE it when the show punishes Clark for doing the right thing. Phantom is kinda ruined for me by the flip-flop of Lionel to good guy and the illogic of having all these people withhold vital information from Clark. So I've talked myself in circles at least twice now. I'll go with my gut instinct and say Commencement.

Agreed. Every time Clark tries to find a way of solving a problem without having to take someone's life, they find a way to make matters worse and blame him for the outcome. Do they WANT to kill without remorse?

[costas22]

This isn't going to be easy. Smallville finales tend to be fantastic episodes. The Calling/Exodus combination is great finale that touches upon some issues for the first time and that's why it feels fresh. But i didn't like how much guilt was piled on Clark at the end and the way Jor-El was written there. Covenant was a good finale, but i have never rated it too high. Commencement is probably the best episode they have ever put together in terms of effects and excitement. Not too much that i find wrong with it, apart from the fact that again Clark has full responsibility for everything that's happening. Not a fan of ships, but the Chlark kiss made Vessel better for me. It was the culmination of a year's relationship that kept getting tighter. Unfortunately, it went down hill after that. Vessel as an episode is not my favorite. Once again, too much pressure on Clark and another unenviable situation for him. Lexana made things even worse. Phantom was a great finale. It had a lot of material and i think they found the perfect balance for it. Something that they failed to do a year later with Arctic. And Doomsday? Well, all i will say is that even before the Jimmy fiasco, i thought it was nothing more than ok. My pick:

Episode 22 - Commencement

[RaniaLovesClois]

Episode 22 - Commencement

[Glove]

22. Phantom

[marcella]

Episode 22: Commencement

[Night_Hawk90]

commencement would have been my vote if it was the series finale as i found that episode that perfect segway to end the show

[LordOnox]

Episode 22 - Commencement

[avisray1992]

Commencement

[smallvillefreak24]

Commencement

[Clark/Lois-fan]

Episode 22: Commencement

close second is Phantom, then Doomsday, Calling/Exodus, Covenant and then my least favorite Vessel

[Jaderoyale]

Commencement

[Lex Dance]

Episode 22: Calling/Exodus

I've always loved these 2 episodes, especially the Jor-el aspect. Maybe it's because I especially love Terence Stamp's delivery, but I really enjoy any scene that involves his character. Once that idea of Jor-el's domineering personality was introduced I was very much taken by the ambiguity which surrounded his intentions. I think there has been a fair bit of backtracking on those intentions over the years, but back then in S2 I loved the 'threat' he essentially held for Clark's future. "It is time, Kal-el" and "You will obey me, Kal-el" are two of my favourite closing lines. Hearing Clark being called by his Kryptonian name sent shivers down my spine.

[Supsfan]

Episode 22: Calling/Exodus

I've always loved these 2 episodes, especially the Jor-el aspect. Maybe it's because I especially love Terence Stamp's delivery, but I really enjoy any scene that involves his character. Once that idea of Jor-el's domineering personality was introduced I was very much taken by the ambiguity which surrounded his intentions. I think there has been a fair bit of backtracking on those intentions over the years, but back then in S2 I loved the 'threat' he essentially held for Clark's future. "It is time, Kal-el" and "You will obey me, Kal-el" are two of my favourite closing lines. Hearing Clark being called by his Kryptonian name sent shivers down my spine.

from my rant in the worst episode thread why I didn't care for Calling/Exodus

Let's see everything is going great in Clark's life. After 2 seasons(where we see them use every plot device to keep them apart) Clark finally hooks up with Lana but.......... Jackass Jor-El comes calling for Clark(if only Clark took that as a sign from his dad what he thinks of Lana, I might be more forgiving, ironically in Reckoning Clark proposes to Lana and Jor-El kills her, you think he would learn) and all of a sudden he hates his life(it's all his fault don't you know). Well we at least had a good 10 minutes of Clark being happy there.

In these 2 episodes Clark does absolutely nothing in terms of the heroics department. Chloe also backstabs Clark because she is an emotional basketcase. Clark puts on a red K ring as the season cliff hanger(only to lead us to the terrible Exile which is character assassination beyond belief). Helen Bryce who up to this point was made to look like a good person gets turned into some evil ***** because that's how they do stuff on Smallville, nobody can leave this show with there head held up morally high if they a 1 season character, they need to make them do something completely stupid because it gives us even more "drama".

Let's not forget in Calling we learn Martha is the worst mom in the world denying her son birthdays because heaven forbid they can send Clark to a public school without worrying but having a bunch of kids over at the house to celebrate his birthday might cause problems, but thankfully we get the Lana baking him a cake to save the day and show us how truly wonderful she is(unlike the Evil Wicked Step Mom from the West).

[HeroesUnlimited]

Episode 22 - This one is really a no-brainer for me. It has to be Commencement. One of the best episodes of the entire series (top 5). Almost felt like a big screen movie at times. Loved the conclusion to the stones of knowledge arc.

[Nanda Lane]

Episode 22: Commencement

[wickedwango]

Phantom - Lets do something different!

[Lex Dance]

You didn't like Exodus then, Supsfan? :)

Let's see everything is going great in Clark's life. After 2 seasons(where we see them use every plot device to keep them apart) Clark finally hooks up with Lana but.......... Jackass Jor-El comes calling for Clark(if only Clark took that as a sign from his dad what he thinks of Lana, I might be more forgiving, ironically in Reckoning Clark proposes to Lana and Jor-El kills her, you think he would learn) and all of a sudden he hates his life(it's all his fault don't you know).
To be fair, if you were responsible for an explosion that killed your adopted, and hitherto sterile, parents' unborn child, I think you'd pretty much hate your life - wouldn't you?

Clark puts on a red K ring as the season cliff hanger(only to lead us to the terrible Exile which is character assassination beyond belief).
I don't think it's beyond the realms of possibility that you might turn to something that would numb the pain and want to escape into anonymity. And besides, isn't Clark on Red K meant to be character assassination?

In these 2 episodes Clark does absolutely nothing in terms of the heroics department. In Memoria, Clark doesn't do anything heroic - that doesn't necessarily negate the episode and it's place in the Smallville story.

Helen Bryce who up to this point was made to look like a good person gets turned into some evil ***** because that's how they do stuff on Smallville, nobody can leave this show with there head held up morally high if they a 1 season character, they need to make them do something completely stupid because it gives us even more "drama".
The Helen Bryce storyline in S2 was, for me, a good plot twist. There was always the doubt that anyone with the knowledge that she had (of Clark's blood and genetic make-up) could be corrupted by one of the Luthors. In all honesty, I wish they hadn't finished off her story as they did - it all got a bit confused - and perhaps I would have liked to have seen her as an essentially good character, but I guess they wanted to show us that the Luthors will tarnish everyone in the end. Plus, let's not forget that she was the first in the line of 1-season characters that "do something completely stupid", so maybe that accusation of the episode is a little unfair.

[Supsfan]

You didn't like Exodus then, Supsfan?

In general I don't care for episodes where Clark starts loathing his life, feeling everything is his fault, then does something stupid. Calling-> Exile was the first major instance of this happening.

In defense of that 3 episode run, I didn't mind it when I first watched it, but over the years you see a constant repeating pattern of stuff like this happening to Clark and I don't feel the episodes hold up over well over time(since it seems like Clark basically learned nothing from this)


I don't think it's beyond the realms of possibility that you might turn to something that would numb the pain and want to escape into anonymity. And besides, isn't Clark on Red K meant to be character assassination?

The idea that Clark went 3 months on Red K without breaking the pattern is terrible. What even made it worse was the scene of Clark in the phone booth taking off the ring then putting it back on. The events of Exile should have been a 1 shot episode that Clark learns his lesson at the end of the episode, not a 3 part Season Cliffhanger.

Every other Red K episode it wasn't Clark's fault he went on the Red K, the idea of Clark running away from his problems and doing stupid stuff is what I am not a fan of.


In Memoria, Clark doesn't do anything heroic - that doesn't necessarily negate the episode and it's place in the Smallville story.

Fair enough but Clark tried to go help Lex, that could be somewhat heroic. In the case of Calling Exodus you can't even stretch it that far.

In general I don't care when the show tries to rev up the "drama". It usually involves storylines full of angst or are depressing/dark which I don't feel really fit a typical Superman storyline. If you look at most the episodes I picked in this game, I usually pick ones that have a more positive or fun feel to them

[Spirit Detective]

I think we can all agree that Doomsday was a letdown, so of course it wasn't good enough to change my vote.

Doomsday was a major letdown. It is even worse than Vessel.

S4-Commencement

This is what a high school graduation should be!

[CKWannabe]

EPISODE 22: COMMENCEMENT

Tough call on this one. Every year i struggle with 3 choices: Covenant, Calling/Exodus, & Commencement. It could be that I just have an affection for what I refer to as the Golden Age of Smallville, the 1st 4 seasons ( or it could be that every finale since then just hasn't been as good! )
I don't think you can go wrong w/ any of these, and I'd have to say that Tempest is right there in the running also, but I come back to one point that puts Commencement over the edge for me and that is it's significance it has in the entire saga of Smallville. With there being 8 seasons now, Commencement is the exact halfway point of the story so far. It also ushered in great changes to the show. It brought about the end of high school & the beginning of their college/professional lives, the end of the Torch & the beginning of Daily Planet, the end of the Caves & the beginning of The Fortress, less meteor freaks & more aliens (Braniac, Bizzaro, Zod, etc.), and sadly the end of the family dynamic w/ the death of Jonathon Kent soon after (due to events from Commencement). Looking back, this episode was a swing point for the series. Besides also being very entertaining it was also significant...just not sure if all the changes were for the best tho

[lana 9]

episode 22phanton
this is hard pick for me but as lana fan i love that clark told lana the secret in phanton i wait six season for it and i love clark and bizarro fight too

[vyperman7]

One thing that bugs me a bit about Commencement is that Chloe could not even get her high school diploma at the ceremony. Would it have been so hard to have the meteor warning and army hit the scene after Chloe's name was called? For the show's run, it seems like Chloe has been the one that the writers constantly like to screw over. Even down to little things like not getting her diploma at the ceremony. In high school she spends all four years pining for a guy she will never get, despite a few close calls and she can't even get her name called at graduation. Then despite all her experience and hard work at the DP, she never gets promoted, and her cousin gets hired at a whim and rises up higher in the ranks. Finally, she gets dumped by her husband and the first guy she ends up falling for other than Clark turns out to be a serial killer. Not to mention what happened with her mother. You have got to feel for the girl.

The funny thing however, is that even though Chloe used to be one of my favorite characters, I have found myself liking her less and less with each passing season. Especially the last few. I think what happened is that so many fans on the internet started rooting for her because she was the show's underdog, and now Allison Mack has too big a fanbase for her to get taken off the show. So they kind of just have to keep Chloe on the show, despite the fact that there really isn't much use for her anymore.

[Shadowlord367]

Episode 22 - Phantom

While big, flashy finales (Commencement, Vessel) are nice, I always prefer more character driven episodes. Don't get me wrong, the big, epic, eye-catching stuff has a place in sci-fi series, but I love the way that "Phantom" revolved around the characters. Something cool about "Phantom" is that it put the four leads all in extreme peril. Except for Lex. Did anyone actually view him getting arrested as a cliffhanger? Arrest is so cavalier on Smallville. I think we all knew every one would survive, but it was still well done. Between Martha leaving, the Lexana confrontation, the Clana goodbye, Lana's explosion, The manifestation of Chloe's meteor powers, Clark confronting Lana with the secret, and Bizarro's arrival, it was quite an episode and vastly underrated. The only thing that gets me is that between the time Chloe died and when she was pulled out of the morgue, her hair grew like three inches. I don't think people's hair grow when they're dead ;).

Close seconds are Tempest, because of the beautiful simplicity of it, and Exodus because of its incredible foreboding tone and build up.

[Supsfan]

One thing that bugs me a bit about Commencement is that Chloe could not even get her high school diploma at the ceremony. Would it have been so hard to have the meteor warning and army hit the scene after Chloe's name was called? For the show's run, it seems like Chloe has been the one that the writers constantly like to screw over. Even down to little things like not getting her diploma at the ceremony. In high school she spends all four years pining for a guy she will never get, despite a few close calls and she can't even get her name called at graduation. Then despite all her experience and hard work at the DP, she never gets promoted, and her cousin gets hired at a whim and rises up higher in the ranks. Finally, she gets dumped by her husband and the first guy she ends up falling for other than Clark turns out to be a serial killer. Not to mention what happened with her mother. You have got to feel for the girl.

If I remember correctly Chloe was supposed to be the valedictorian as well but that scene never made it past the writers room. I always guess it came down to either that or the Lois/Clark loft scene and I am happy they went with L&C because that is one of my fav L&C moments on the show plus I feel to often the show lacks scenes of Clark just living a normal life for a change.

If it worth anything Caroline Dries and Holly Harold both recieved there diplomas. I assume the rest of the people recieving Diplomas were somehow staff members of the show as well.

Not that it would have been a huge problem but the names they were announcing were in order, so to go from Kent to Sullivan would take at least an extra minute. I also think it was great timing that the sirens happened right after they said Lana Lang because it's yet another time Clark should realize Lana not ment for him(In Calling when they first start dating, Jor-El comes and wants to take Clark away, Commencement and in Reckoning when Clark proposes to Lana, Jor-El kills her. Fate it's a *****)

[Spirit Detective]

Vessel I like as an episode but I take off a lot of points for plot illogic - I can never understand why stabbing Brainiac should open a portal for Zod - and I HATE it when the show punishes Clark for doing the right thing.

Yeah, it really ticks me off when Clark is faced with these no win scenarios. If he killed Lex, he would be punished with guilt. If he let Lex live, he would still be punished.

Blue and Doomsday are more examples of the show punishing Clark for doing the right thing.

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The funny thing however, is that even though Chloe used to be one of my favorite characters, I have found myself liking her less and less with each passing season. Especially the last few. I think what happened is that so many fans on the internet started rooting for her because she was the show's underdog, and now Allison Mack has too big a fanbase for her to get taken off the show. So they kind of just have to keep Chloe on the show, despite the fact that there really isn't much use for her anymore.

Chloe was awesome in the earlier seasons. However, I really despised her role in the Davis Bloome situation.

[Supsfan]

Chloe was awesome in the earlier seasons. However, I really despised her role in the Davis Bloome situation.

S5 for me is when her character really started to go down the drain. Once she found out the secret to many times the producers used her as a cheap plot device to help Clark in some fashion.

[Dr. Walden]

S5 for me is when her character really started to go down the drain. Once she found out the secret to many times the producers used her as a cheap plot device to help Clark in some fashion.

Weird. I think that's when her character was raised to favorite status amongst many fans (when she was Clark's sidekick). Personally, I didn't like her the first four seasons whenever she was whiny over Clark (she was even more annoying than Lana when she was pining over Clark), but her character was much more developed. Then in Season 5 when she was basically Clark's sidekick, and I found she had very little story of her own. This continued into Seasons 6-7, but she also had the Jimmy relationship (which I was bored to death by). Season 8 totally killed her character. Killing that guy (I forget his name), which was worsened by the fact that they never really addressed it afterwards, and the whole Davis storyline.

The one time I liked her the most was her "freak" storyline in the middle of Season 6.

[Spirit Detective]

S5 for me is when her character really started to go down the drain. Once she found out the secret to many times the producers used her as a cheap plot device to help Clark in some fashion.

*Cough* Solitude *Cough*

[Supsfan]

*Cough* Solitude *Cough*

lol don't even get me started. I have been rewatching episodes since the season ended and I watched that one tonight. They definantly could have found a better way to have Clark figure out Brainiac was bad and then defeat him


Weird. I think that's when her character was raised to favorite status amongst many fans (when she was Clark's sidekick). Personally, I didn't like her the first four seasons whenever she was whiny over Clark (she was even more annoying than Lana when she was pining over Clark), but her character was much more developed. Then in Season 5 when she was basically Clark's sidekick, and I found she had very little story of her own. This continued into Seasons 6-7, but she also had the Jimmy relationship (which I was bored to death by). Season 8 totally killed her character. Killing that guy (I forget his name), which was worsened by the fact that they never really addressed it afterwards, and the whole Davis storyline.

The one time I liked her the most was her "freak" storyline in the middle of Season 6.

Whiny Chloe was mostly Season 2, in Seasons 1, 3 and 4 her character was enjoyable(although in S4 I did find it minorly annoying at times that in every episode she would drop a hint that she knows Clark's secret(after Pariah)

[Jlvsclrk]

Enough on the Chloe hate in a thread about the best of all seasons. There's nothing wrong with Clark needing to be saved every once in a while. Fine played him like a flute in Solitude (thanks I don't doubt to gunk it extracted from him in Splinter), and I also blame the Fortress itself for not being more forthcoming when Clark visited the first time. I also wonder why Lionel didn't talk to Clark directly or even Martha, but that's him being Machievellian even when he doesn't need to be.

[Supsfan]

Enough on the Chloe hate in a thread about the best of all seasons. There's nothing wrong with Clark needing to be saved every once in a while. Fine played him like a flute in Solitude (thanks I don't doubt to gunk it extracted from him in Splinter), and I also blame the Fortress itself for not being more forthcoming when Clark visited the first time. I also wonder why Lionel didn't talk to Clark directly or even Martha, but that's him being Machievellian even when he doesn't need to be.

All valid points(well except Clark needing to be saved once in a while:P) with issues I had with Solitude. I always wonder what goes through the writers heads when they come up with scenerios that put Clark in bad situations that can be easily resolved other ways and make Clark look good.

I wish they wrote more characters like Brainiac on this show. Fine was decisive in everything he did without waivering in his decisions. If he lied to you he wouldn't come out and give some half truth(after he pondered it for 5 seconds) he would just lie convincingly. By far the best villian on the show because there was no ambiguity about where he stood on stuff(ie is he good or bad and all that tragic mumbo jumbo)

[smallvillefreak24]

I realize this whole thing has gotten off topic but I think that Chloe learning the secret improved her character ten fold

o and since we are supposed to be talking about the finales= i do not like when there are cliff hangers that are just not very exciting. Like lex getting arrested as someone said earlier, or lana in the truck exploding for example. I don't think Commencement has any of that.

[vyperman7]

Enough on the Chloe hate in a thread about the best of all seasons. There's nothing wrong with Clark needing to be saved every once in a while. Fine played him like a flute in Solitude (thanks I don't doubt to gunk it extracted from him in Splinter), and I also blame the Fortress itself for not being more forthcoming when Clark visited the first time. I also wonder why Lionel didn't talk to Clark directly or even Martha, but that's him being Machievellian even when he doesn't need to be.

I don't see a problem with some discussion on Chloe in this thread. When a character's name is mentioned in correlation with an episode (my post that sparked the discussion) it is only natural that the character is going to be discussed in general. Some of the discussion will be positive, and some negative depending on people's point of view. You have to remember that opposing viewpoints are to be expected and that it doesn't mean that there is character bashing or hating going on. When a person doesn't like a character or a character's actions, their thoughts aren't going to come out sounding overly positive for the character.

Most of your post was good. Except for the part telling people how to post. In the future, I would ask that you don't make comments about how people should and shouldn't post. That is for the moderators to do. If the discussion gets too out of hand or uncivil, then I put a stop to it. So far though, it just seems like a lively discussion.

[HeroesUnlimited]

Didn't Lana miss the graduation ceremony as well?

[Lex Dance]

I don't think people's hair grow when they're dead ;).
Actually it does, Shadowlord. And so do your fingernails. But you're right, not that quickly! :lol:

Close seconds are Tempest, because of the beautiful simplicity of it, and Exodus because of its incredible foreboding tone and build up.
I agree with you. For me, the perilous situations that seem to involve most cast members in later season finales just seem OTT. It's like they feel they have to keep raising the bar each time, but actually all that happens is that the episode seems rushed and the characters only end up being tucked up in their beds all safe and sound by the end of the following premiere. If I was a Smallville character I'd simply stay in bed once the Summer started approaching! :)
Tempest and Exodus build tension without resorting to an overload of cliff-hangers. Essentially Clark jumping into a tornado is not really that dangerous, and yet it left me the most breathless. Similarly, Exodus is infused with such a pervasive sense of foreboding that I was left thinking about what would happen to Clark in Metropolis for a long time afterwards.

[vyperman7]

Episode Wars has officially come to a close...

Thanks for playing everyone. It was fun this year. Especially considering the fact that some new episodes were chosen. It was cool to get some variety. As always the results are posted on the first page. I think this year's winning season turned out to be very well-rounded and it is probably my favorite winning season yet. Well until that time next year...

Feel free to get some discussion going about the winning season results and what episodes you would have rather seen win, what suprised you this year, etc..

To start off, I am rather surprised that Rosetta almost lost to Hex. Only one vote decided it. Talk about close..LOL

[SGuthrie27]

Wow, it actually did end up being pretty well-rounded, vyperman7. I'm glad to see a few new episodes up there. I was surprised, though that "Hydro" ended up winning out over "Bride," which I thought would be a shoo-in... Still, I'm pretty happy with the results. I wish they would air these all day long at a movie theater, back-to-back, LOL! That'd be awesome... Thanks so much, Ryan, for organizing this game every year! It's awesome!

--SGuthrie ><>' :)--

[vyperman7]

Wow, it actually did end up being pretty well-rounded, vyperman7. I'm glad to see a few new episodes up there. I was surprised, though that "Hydro" ended up winning out over "Bride," which I thought would be a shoo-in... Still, I'm pretty happy with the results. I wish they would air these all day long at a movie theater, back-to-back, LOL! That'd be awesome... Thanks so much, Ryan, for organizing this game every year! It's awesome!

--SGuthrie ><>' :)--

It is funny because I was actually thinking of making an Episode Wars tribute video highlighting all the best moments from the winning episodes. Kind of as a shout out to the game and as a way to say thanks to the people who played. Editing work has been super slow for me in the past few months. I figure I might as well put all the professional editing software I have to good use..LOL

I am actually going out of town though in a week or so, so I will have to start the planning stages of the video after I get back. I will probably do a montage music video style highlight reel with some dialogue thrown in. The trick will be trying to fit in all the great moments, while keeping the video relatively short. Twenty-two different episodes is a lot of material to choose from.

If anyone has any song suggestions, let me know.

[SGuthrie27]

Wow, that would be incredible. Definitely post that when you're done, or a link to it, anyway. Great idea!

--SGuthrie ><>' :)--

[rockyshadow]

That sounds great Ryan. I would love to see it. Thanks for hosting this again I had a lot of fun participating.

[costas22]

Congrats on putting this together Ryan!

[HeroesUnlimited]

I second that. Thanks Ryan

[Jlvsclrk]

Thanks Ryan for organizing this.

As for a song, why not Help! by the Beatles, Learning to Fly, Tom Petty or Learn to Fly / Best of You by the Foo Fighters - I could suggest a hundred songs depending on what type of mood you want to capture.

[vyperman7]

Cool Jen. I appreciate any suggestions you can give me. I might get to start working on it sooner than expected. Since I was going on vacation with my family, I didn't think I would be able to start doing anything with it. However, I just found out that there will be a couple of days where everyone except me will be going to play golf. I love the driving range, but hate playing actual golf. So I will have a few days where I have hours and hours to myself. I have Final Cut Pro on an I-Mac which is a portable CPU. So I can just bring that along with me up there. Luckily I have every season of Smallville captured in .MOV format which is FCP's native format. If I had all of Smallville in a PC format, I could only edit on Avid (the software I was trained on at school) which is on my PC. My PC isn't portable..LOL

It sucks because I was trained at school for over two years on Avid because it was the industry standard when I started. Now almost two years later after I am out of school, Avid has basically become obsolete and everyone is using Final Cut Pro now. The software version of Avid "Avid Media Composer" which I use is a 5000 dollar piece of software. I have only had ONE paying gig on it. Everything else has been on FCP. So all that money and time I spent on learning Avid has basically come down to a waste of time. It is frustrating especially due to the fact that FCP jobs pay less because it is a cheaper piece of equipment. Sorry about the rant..LOL

[RaniaLovesClois]

When are the wars starting again?
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[vyperman7]

Hey everyone. It is almost time for another round of Episode Wars..

The next round will start June 1st. I am going be out of town starting the first week of July. So I want to make sure we finish before then.

[SGuthrie27]

AWESOME, Ryan! You know you can count me in for another round!!! :)

[skully]

Good News!!! :D

[vyperman7]

Help to spread the word because I have a feeling that it may not get as many people as it did in the past since it was moved to the games section.

[costas22]

Count me in too. :) Post season episode war games always attract me.

[skully]

Thread started in the General Discussion Forum to make people aware it's coming. :D

[vyperman7]

Thread started in the General Discussion Forum to make people aware it's coming. :D

Imagine if I had made the official thread way back when I first created the game back in S3. I tried it once in S3, it had a lot of success and then I didn't go back to it for years after. Now this will be the 5th year that it has gone on. It is a small KSite tradition that I am proud that I created.

Man, I can't believe that I have been a member of this site now for almost 7 years (signed up in Sept 03) That is crazy...

[LordOnox]

I'm very excited for this! There were some great episodes in season 9.

[Supsfan]

I'm very excited for this! There were some great episodes in season 9.

In all honesty I don't think there is an episode in S9 that will make either best or worst episode ever list for me

[skully]

Hehehe, Supsfan in "meh" mood. :D

[Supsfan]

Hehehe, Supsfan in "meh" mood. :D

I wouldn't go that far, I thought S9 was a good season overall, just nothing outstanding or terrible. It's sort of alot like S1 in that reguard. When I rated them during the season I just remembered alot falling in the 2-5 range, it just seems liek there always is a slightly better episode in another season basically. Maybe when i see the lists again if there is a weaker episode number and I really liekd the episode it will win.

ETA: I just did a quick check and I was wrong a S9 will might win a category(It's down to that and one episode from S1) but it's more based on an average set of episodes and it being the best of the bunch then it being a standout favorite(it probably was my 10-15th favorite of the season)

[skully]

Thing is, Sups, each person only get one vote in the Episode Wars. So no single person has much influence. It really is a great democratic way of the determining "The Best of All Seasons." :)

[vyperman7]

I wouldn't go that far, I thought S9 was a good season overall, just nothing outstanding or terrible. It's sort of alot like S1 in that reguard

I feel the same way about S9. Overall it was a solid season and there were only a few episodes I didn't really care for (Roulette and Hostage). However, none of the episodes really blew me away either. With the exception of the two I listed, the rest of them ranged from watchable to good. My main gripes with S9 were - Clois post-Pandora (so disappointing) and the Kandorians arc with the assimilation (so boring). I wish that it had just been Zod because the Kandorians didn't really add anything to the show IMO.

However, I did want to say that S1 is my second favorite season after S3.

[Supsfan]

I feel the same way about S9. Overall it was a solid season and there were only a few episodes I didn't really care for (Roulette and Hostage). However, none of the episodes really blew me away either. With the exception of the two I listed, the rest of them ranged from watchable to good. My main gripes with S9 were - Clois post-Pandora (so disappointing) and the Kandorians arc with the assimilation (so boring). I wish that it had just been Zod because the Kandorians didn't really add anything to the show IMO.

However, I did want to say that S1 is my second favorite season after S3.

My major complaints for S9 were

1. Clark to often shoved to the background for stories I could care less about(usually Ollie centric). This arguement can be made for every season though at times since S3.

2. Other then Lois Clark's storylines with other characters a little to dark and unneeded(ie the good old forced drama which has been litering this show since S2 and hit it's peek in S6)

3. Not enough verbalization from Clark at times(this is probably the main problem of the season in general for me, 1 and 2 are sort of expected at this point)

4. To much talk and not enough action(I would rate this higher but I realize the show is on a budget so I will cut them a little slack)

I think the episode that summed this season up perfectly for me would be Crossfire. If they nixed the Ollie storyline and came up with some story how a guy was trying to sabotage the blind date thing(even if it was average villian at best) I think that episode would have been one of the best of the series. Instead they try fit Ollie into the storyline into the blind dating one and it just doesn't feel complete when basically all Clark does at the end is run in to grab a bullet.

As for S1, it's my second favorite behind S4. In general I perfer episodes where Clark is not depressed, hating his life, blaming himself for everything or full of angst. Those 2 seasons more then any other you find Clark that way more often then not, and when he is in one of those states in those seasons it doesn't overtake the storyline.

The S9 comparions to S1 though for me is both the seasons don't have any episodes I truly despise or hate(although in the case of S1 there is a couple that have a chance of winning best episode)

[vyperman7]

Thread started in the General Discussion Forum to make people aware it's coming. :D

Skully,

Just saw the thread. Thanks for doing that man. Granted, I don't know how long it will be allowed to stay up, but thanks for doing it. By the way, is there anyway that you can edit your post and add the link to this thread. That way people can click on it and just go straight to the thread. Might makes things easier.

[skully]

Will see what I can do, v-man, :D

Done.

[vyperman7]

My major complaints for S9 were

1. Clark to often shoved to the background for stories I could care less about(usually Ollie centric). This arguement can be made for every season though at times since S3.

2. Other then Lois Clark's storylines with other characters a little to dark and unneeded(ie the good old forced drama which has been litering this show since S2 and hit it's peek in S6)

3. Not enough verbalization from Clark at times(this is probably the main problem of the season in general for me, 1 and 2 are sort of expected at this point)

4. To much talk and not enough action(I would rate this higher but I realize the show is on a budget so I will cut them a little slack)

I think the episode that summed this season up perfectly for me would be Crossfire. If they nixed the Ollie storyline and came up with some story how a guy was trying to sabotage the blind date thing(even if it was average villian at best) I think that episode would have been one of the best of the series. Instead they try fit Ollie into the storyline into the blind dating one and it just doesn't feel complete when basically all Clark does at the end is run in to grab a bullet.

As for S1, it's my second favorite behind S4. In general I perfer episodes where Clark is not depressed, hating his life, blaming himself for everything or full of angst. Those 2 seasons more then any other you find Clark that way more often then not, and when he is in one of those states in those seasons it doesn't overtake the storyline.

The S9 comparions to S1 though for me is both the seasons don't have any episodes I truly despise or hate(although in the case of S1 there is a couple that have a chance of winning best episode)

I haven't always agreed with you in the past, but I respect you because you have your views and you stick to them. I always look forward to your posts.

I see your point about liking seasons where Clark isn't depressed, and where it isn't wall to wall angst. However, when you consider the network (WB/CW) and the fact that Smallville has always been more of a dramatic type show, angst and self loathing are to be expected. In the past, the Smallville part of the story was always lighter, but when you are trying to make a show out of it, you have to create some type of drama and angst to get viewers to tune in. A show like Lois and Clark could be different because it was always billed as a romantic comedy with Superman thrown in so Clark could be more upbeat. I have a feeling that once the show starts coming to a close, Clark will finally be more secure with himself and the self loathing will stop. Unfortunately though, the angst will never go away. They need something to make the shipper fans happy..LOL

[skully]

Link works from the General Discussion page. :)

[vyperman7]

Link works from the General Discussion page. :)

Thanks man. I appreciate it.

[skully]

Pleasure, v-man. It's the least I can do for all your hard work in this thread. :D

[skully]

Bah, the General Discussion thread with a link to this thread has been locked. Oh well.

[RaniaLovesClois]

Yay, great! Count me in too! :D
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[vyperman7]

Episodes 1-3 - This round will last for three days going from June 1st -June 4th @ 8pm PST

* Please remember to highlight all choices in black so it makes it easier for me to see what your choices are. I appreciate it!

Episode 1
S1 - Pilot
S2 - Vortex
S3 - Exile
S4 - Crusade
S5 - Arrival
S6 - Zod
S7- Bizarro
S8 - Odyssey
S9 - Savior

Episode 2

S1 - Metamorphosis
S2 - Heat
S3 - Phoenix
S4 - Gone
S5 - Mortal
S6 - Sneeze
S7 - Kara
S8- Plastique
S9 - Metallo

Episode 3

S1- Hothead
S2- Duplicity
S3- Extinction
S4- Facade
S5- Hidden
S6- Wither
S7 - Fierce
S8 - Toxic
S9 - Rabid

My Choices :

Episode 1 - Exile
Episode 2 - Heat
Episode 3 - Hidden

- Overall, the premiere episodes have been enjoyable for the most part. I think the only one I didn't care for was S8's Odyssey. The rest have ranged from good to outstanding. Savior was a decent opener this year, but it didn't blow me away either. So I would still have to say that my favorite opener is Exile.

- Metallo was another good episode this year from S9. However, once again it didn't blow me away either. I would have to say that Heat is still my favorite second episode. I think an underrated episode in this category is S8's Plastique. I really enjoyed that episode last year.

- Rabid had one of the best Clois moments in the history of the show in the rain and was much more enjoyable than I thought it would be. However, as a whole it still isn't the best choice either. One episode that I feel is underrated in this category is Duplicity. I thought the episode was well done. Especially with how it examined Clark and Pete's friendship. The ending with the super dunk is one of my favorite scenes from the show. However, I still have to go with Hidden as the best third episode.

[super_j_man]

Episode 1: Crusade
Episode 2: Pheonix
Episode 3: Hothead

-Season 4 contains my most favorite premiere and finale. Crusade IMO contains the greatest scene in Smallville history: Clark's flight as Kal-El. Also the introduction of Lois Lane/Erica Durance. :D

-I really liked Pheonix for its fight scene on the docks between Morgan's and Lionel's goons. Everything from beginning to end was enjoyable.

-In this case an oldie but a goodie. Clark's first trial with football was really fun to see. Plus I miss the good-old Clark/Lana/Lex interactions where there wasn't anything in between them. I just kinda wish that didn't reopen the football path for Clark back up in Season 4.

[costas22]

We are underway. :D

Episode 1: Pilot
Episode 2: Mortal
Episode 3: Hidden

- I have enjoyed almost every premiere, but as I am looking at them today, my favorite is Pilot because it set everything into motion.

- I liked how Mortal showcased heroic Clark without his abilities.

- The list for 3rd episodes isn't a very strong one. Hidden gets it because it was the most loaded episode from the list.

[marcella]

Episode 1: Crusade
Episode 2: Metallo
Episode 3: Rabid

- This is a tough one, because the Pilot, Exile, Bizarro and Savior are in my top 30 of the series, but I choose this one because it was after I watched this episode that I've become Smallville addicted:p Clark flying and the introduction of Lois Lane were the big moments of this memorable series premiere

- It was an excellent continuation to Savior and it was one of the best introductions of a DC villain.

- I know, there are zombies and depressed Oliver, but it had ninja Tess and good Clois stuff (which is one of my biggest priorities on the show:D:p) And there aren't a lot of good 3rd episodes either:lol:

[LordOnox]

All I really need to do is copy and paste Marcella's list :D

Episode 1: Crusade
Episode 2: Metallo
Episode 3: Rabid

- There are a lot of great Smallville premieres, but I need to give it to Crusade. With flight, Lois Lane and a good start to the stones of power arc, it had a very epic feeling.

- Metallo was one of my favorite episodes from season 9. John Corben was done brilliantly and I could really feel all the emotions he was going through. The "fight" was also very well done, we got to see Clark using his brain more to find a way to stop Metallo.

- Before seeing the episode, I thought for sure that Rabid was going to be a weak episode. Well, I was wrong! From Tess slicing up zombies with a sword to Zod decapitating Coats, it was a great episode that exceeded all of my expectations.

[super_j_man]

I'll be a zombie's uncle if Rabid wins the episode 3 spot! :p JK

[Glove]

Episode 1: Arrival
Episode 2: Heat
Episode 3: Rabid

[marcella]

I'll be a zombie's uncle if Rabid wins the episode 3 spot! :p JK

:rotfl:I'm surprised it got 3 votes already(one was mine:lol::p)

[Shadowlord367]

1. Arrival
2. Mortal
3. Hidden

Now, I am almost opposed to myself picking three consecutive episodes from the same season, because it look like I have a biased to that season. However, there is something about this three episode arc that I just love. I think that the Clark and Lana was at its prime here, Clark and Chloe's relationship was perfect, and this was a time when Clark really got to experience humanity. It was also kind of the beginning of the end, at least at one point. Now, it is merely the middle of the series. I don't want to sound like I'm not judging the episodes individually, because I am, but I love the way these episodes incorporate so much of the Smallville and Kent Farm landscape, something that's definitely been lacking in recent seasons.

Arrival is so iconic. The rising of the fortress, Clark's secret reveal, Lionel becoming a Vessel and all of the Lex and Lana stuff with the aliens. It set so many things in motion, and I can watch it over and over again and never get sick of it. Exile is a nice episode, but I find it to bee merely a visual success, but not really Supermanly at all. Don't get me wrong, there are several moments that are very defining to Clark's journey, but I just feel like Arrival is much more mythology rooted. My next choice would probably be Zod.

Mortal is a great second episode, I love watching Clark use his brains rather than his powers, and I like the balance of the placement of Chloe and Lana in his life at this point. Really enjoyable episode. Next choice would be Heat.

Hidden was an emotionally intense episode, and every character went through so many different emotions and it was perfectly written, directed, acted, and shot. Watching all the characters react to Clark's death, Lana's amazing love confession at his deathbed, the heroic save, Chlark working together to stop the missle, the amazing teaser, everything made it so iconic and memorable. I loved that episode.

[Supsfan]

1. Crusade
2. Gone
3. Facade

Probably a Lois bias of mine but I thought she provided the perfect foil for Clark. Instead of episodes of him angry and hating his life, we got 3 epsiodes where he seemed happy and well adjusted for the most part. In the case of Gone and Facade, it was him and Lois investigating stuff while he saves the day looking rather heroic(sometimes simplier is better in my books, and hero investigates then saves the day is Superhero 101 writing). There basically was no stupid plots of Clark hating himself, or blaming himself for all the world's wrongs(ie typical Smallville "drama"). The ending scene in Facade with a happy Clark getting dunked is one of the best of the series(how many episodes do we get to see Clark end on a happy note).

HM
Pilot - top 5 of the series for me, Crusade is just better
Bizarro - great fight scene lifts it high on my list
Heat - I am a fan of Krista Allen's body of work, great episode beyond that :)

[MrsK]

This time around, I am going to try to do this without looking at my votes from past years, so my choices will be what strikes me today - we'll see if there are many changes... :)

My Choices :

Episode 1 - Arrival
Episode 2 - Metallo
Episode 3 - Hidden

Episode 1 - This is a hard call every year, because I actually like all of the season openers. The Pilot will always hold a special place in my heart, but I have to go with Arrival - the formation of the Fortress, the reveal scene in the Yukon with Chloe, and the final scene at the hospital with Lana, plus the introduction of Brainiac. Crusade had the introduction of Lois and, of course, flight; Exile was also great, and Bizarro is another favorite for the dual role that Tom played so well.

Episode 2 - This one comes down to Heat, Mortal, and Metallo. I might have to throw Phoenix in the mix as well. I love that Clark is happy in Mortal, and he manages to save the day even without powers. Heat has such great humor - the scarecrow scene is awesome, and I am pretty sure this is the one I've picked in the past, but I think I will change my vote to Metallo this year. The episode was suspenseful and unpredictable, and I loved what they did with John Corben's story and how what he went through mirrored Clark's struggles with turning his back on his humanity in a lot of ways. I also loved the scene at the end between Lois and Clark at the Daily Planet.

Episode 3 - Rabid actually gave Hidden a run for its money this year, much to my surprise. After reading that it was about zombies, I had no expectation of liking the episode as much as I did! I loved the way Clark was a hero in this one, and his scenes with Lois were so touching. It's nice to see her vulnerable side. Closing the book on Lana was handled well, too. Still, I don't think any episode will top Hidden for the emotional roller coaster from the beginning scene in Clark's bedroom, the awkwardness with Jonathan and Martha in the kitchen, Clark getting shot and actually dying, the ominous tome of the final scene in the loft, and of course the fantastic missile scene.

[rockyshadow]

Episode 1 Crusade
Episode 2 Metallo
Episode 3 Rabid

[SparkleforSmallville]

Episode 1 - Arrival
Episode 2 - Mortal
Episode 3 - Hidden

<------Arrival :)
Really loved Metallo, but had to give my vote to Mortal.
The Kent family scenes in Hidden put it on top for me.

[BadToad]

Episode 1- Exile

Episode 2- Phoenix

Episode 3 - Rabid

[Supsfan]

In the past, the Smallville part of the story was always lighter, but when you are trying to make a show out of it, you have to create some type of drama and angst to get viewers to tune in

Easy instead of "drama" of Clark being depressed an hating his life, have Kung Fu Creatures from Outer Space come and invade earth.

[super_j_man]

Easy instead of "drama" of Clark being depressed an hating his life, have Kung Fu Creatures from Outer Space come and invade earth.

:lol::rolleyes:

[SGuthrie27]

Episode 1: "Exile!" It just feels so cinematic, epic, and has always been one of the coolest season premieres I've seen, for pretty much any show. It was great seeing Clark super-speeding around Metropolis, and to view a totally different side of him. I know some people are not big fans of this darker version of his character, but it made for some excellent storytelling, and set up some amazing plots for the remainder of the season.

Episode 2: Actually, I'm going to have to go with "Metallo." He's one of my favorite Smallville villains, and I really liked this particular incarnation of John Corben, in both his appearance here and in "Upgrade." This was a VERY strong choice, in my humble opinion, compared to the bulk of the competition.

Episode 3: "Hidden," other than a little bit of the Clana, is still made of epic WIN for me. The super-jump... the Chlark scoobying... the scene between Clark and Jor-El-in-Lionel in the Fortress... there was just so much to love about this amazing episode. To me, it'll take a bite out of a zombie-infected episode any day. ;)

[skully]

Episode 1 - Arrival
Episode 2 - Mortal
Episode 3 - Hidden

[RaniaLovesClois]

Episode 1: Savior
Episode 2: Metallo
Episode 3: Rabid

[Degobunny]

Episode 1 - Exile -best red-k episode, I also loved Lex on the island.
Episode 2 - Phoenix - another good red-k epsiode and I love the Jonathan/Clark interaction.
Episode 3 - Hothead- A rather humerous krypto-freak episode, and one were I actually like Lana. I loved the ending scene were Lana and Clark scream. The Lex and Lionel moments were also quite entertaining.

[lana 9]

episode 1 zod

episode 2 mortal

episode 3 hidden

[super_j_man]

Episode 3 - Hothead- A rather humerous krypto-freak episode, and one were I actually like Lana. I loved the ending scene were Lana and Clark scream. The Lex and Lionel moments were also quite entertaining.

I'm glad I'm not the only one that loved this one! :D

[smallvillefreak24]

Episode 1 - Exile

Episode 2 - Mortal

Episode 3 - Hidden

[Nanda Lane]

Episode 1 - Crusade

Episode 2 - Metallo

Episode 3 - Rabid

[Pali]

Episode 1: Odyssey

Episode 2: Kara

Episode 3: Rabid

[immery]

episode 1 - Crusade
episode 2 - Metallo
episode 3 - Hidden

[vyperman7]

Thanks to everyone that has participated so far. I only wish we could get more people. :(

[SGuthrie27]

I know! Where are all the other K-Siters? I've been thinking the same thing over on my Anti-Episode Wars. It seems like the customers of the Gaming forum are rather sparse this week. :p

[Supsfan]

Thanks to everyone that has participated so far. I only wish we could get more people. :(

I was looking at the first contest a few years back you had 27 people then you down to 20 now(with time for more)

[skully]

Thanks to everyone that has participated so far. I only wish we could get more people. :(
I think the fact that this is now a separate sub-forum doesn't help. In the old days we were under General Discussion and highly visible.

I "advertised" in General Discussion but this is frowned upon and the thread was locked.

We used to get 25+ voters per round. :(

[BadToad]

Maybe those of us who participate sending a few PM's to a few other people that we're friendly with would help? I'll give it a try. :)

ETA: I'm posting the link for a few people. Hopefully we'll attract a few more players.

[wellinglover66]

Episode 1 - Exile
Episode 2 - Heat
Episode 3 - Rabid

[Supsfan]

Maybe those of us who participate sending a few PM's to a few other people that we're friendly with would help? I'll give it a try. :)

Just make sure the people you send it to don't like Exile :P

[BadToad]

No way, I'm only sending it to Exile lovers :p

[SGuthrie27]

No way, I'm only sending it to Exile lovers :p

Bwahaha, I like the way you think! :D

[vyperman7]

Episode 3 - Hothead- A rather humerous krypto-freak episode, and one were I actually like Lana. I loved the ending scene were Lana and Clark scream. The Lex and Lionel moments were also quite entertaining.

I actually really like Hothead. One of my favorite eps from S1. It has always been an underrated episode IMO. I don't think it is the best choice for episode three, but I was happy to see someone vote for it.

[Xanderman]

Episode 1: Pilot (S1)

The Pilot still edges out the series' other respectable premieres, those being 2's underrated Vortex followed by 3's Exile. The rest of the premieres ranged from ok to bad.

Episode 2: Heat (S2)

Heat for sure, just an all around great episode. Other good eps in this pack include the underrated Metamorphosis (S1), a well done episode that still had "origins magic" going for it carried on from the Pilot before it, and 3's Phoenix.

Episode 3: Duplicity (S2)

Very good episode, and best Pete episode by far. 3's Extinction and 9's Rabid also rank on my high list. 1's Hothead was decent as well. The rest could disappear into thin air and it wouldn't make a difference.

[wingster55]

Episode 1: Exile

Episode 2: Mortal

Episode 3: Duplicity

[hellokitty]

Ok, I'm new to this so bear with me guys...

First episode was REALLY hard for me to choose just one. REALLY. Hard.

But, I still have to go with my all-time favorite:

Episode 1: Crusade
Episode 2: Metallo
Episode 3: Rabid

[smallvillefreak24]

I was thinking that participation was low as well, maybe it will pick up as the wars go on during later rounds. Also i've been checking out the votes and this year's results are coming up different. Crusade is in the lead and it has usually been between exile and arrival. Rabid is giving Hidden competition when it usually wins easily and Heat usually wins easy but has hardly gotten any votes. S9 wacky year

[skully]

Ok, I'm new to this so bear with me guys...

First episode was REALLY hard for me to choose just one. REALLY. Hard.

But, I still have to go with my all-time favorite:

Episode 1: Crusade
Episode 2: Metallo
Episode 3: RabidCome on over to the Anti-Episode Wars - Worst of all Seasons thread as well, Jenn. :D

[liana]

Episode 1 Crusade
Episode 2 Phoenix
Episode 3 Rabid

First time player. :D That was hard.

[Exedore]

Tough choices.

Episode 1: Exile (very tough choice between this and Crusade and Pilot)
Episode 2: Phoenix
Episode 3: Facade

[BadToad]

Yay for some new blood!!!! :D

[Supsfan]

Episode 3: Facade

Wow and I thought I was the only one who had Facade on the best episodes thread(although you lose marks for Exile). lol

[BadToad]

Facade is a fun episode. Its not my fav, but its a good ep, IMO

[Exedore]

Hey Facade had a happy Clark trying out for the football team. That was fun. :D

Regarding Exile, I know they went overboard with Kal but I still love that arc.

[Supsfan]

Hey Facade had a happy Clark trying out for the football team. That was fun. :D

Exactly. Any episodes where Clark is happy throughout the entire episode usually score good marks in my book. Even better was it ending on a happy note for Clark was well.

[vyperman7]

Check the first page for round one results..

Round 2 : Episodes 4-6 - Ends 6/7 @ 8PM PST

EPISODE 4

S1 - X-Ray
S2 - Red
S3 - Slumber
S4 - Devoted
S5 - Aqua
S6 - Arrow
S7 - Cure
S8 - Instinct
S9 - Echo

EPISODE 5

S1- Cool
S2- Nocturne
S3- Perry
S4- Run
S5- Thirst
S6- Reunion
S7- Action
S8 - Committed
S9 - Roulette

EPISODE 6

S1 - Hourglass
S2 - Redux
S3 - Relic
S4 - Transference
S5 - Exposed
S6 - Fallout
S7 - Lara
S8 - Prey
S9 - Crossfire

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My choices :

Episode 4 -Red
Episode 5- Run
Episode 6 -Transference

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Same choices as last year for me. Crossfire was actually a pretty good episode, but it wasn't good enough to beat out Transference. Lionel and Clark switching bodies is still one of my favorite storylines ever. Also, I LOVE Perry. It is a fantastic episode. However, the ending to Run has to be one of my favorite Smallville moments ever and puts it over the top.

[MrsK]

Episode 4 -Red
Episode 5- Perry
Episode 6 -Transference

[skully]

Episode 4 - Instinct
Episode 5 - Committed
Episode 6 - Transference

[Supsfan]

EPISODE 4 - Devoted

Yet another fun episode from S4. Red, X-Ray and Instinct are also high on my list from this number.

EPISODE 5 - Perry

This may be the toughest choice of all numbers since I have 3 episodes ranked in the top 12. Perry edges out Run and Committed though.

EPISODE 6 - Exposed

Another in the long line of simplier is usually better for me. Lois gets in trouble, Clark investigates and saves the day. Add a little fun stripping scene, my fav episodes barely edging out the equally as great Transference.

[vyperman7]

Check out the winners for round one. Three brand new winners that all won by one vote. A very interesting first round...

[Supsfan]

Check out the winners for round one. Three brand new winners that all one by one vote. A very interesting first round...

Sweet Exile and Hidden both unseated(both made my worst of lists, although Hidden just a victim more of a bunch of episodes I prefer more)

[BadToad]

EPISODE 4 - Devoted

EPISODE 5 - Perry

EPISODE 6 - Transference

[vyperman7]

EPISODE 4 - Devoted

Yet another fun episode from S4. Red, X-Ray and Instinct are also high on my list from this number.

EPISODE 5 - Perry

This may be the toughest choice of all numbers since I have 3 episodes ranked in the top 12. Perry edges out Run and Committed though.

EPISODE 6 - Exposed

Another in the long line of simplier is usually better for me. Lois gets in trouble, Clark investigates and saves the day. Add a little fun stripping scene, my fav episodes barely edging out the equally as great Transference.

Exposed is a decent episode. I enjoyed it more than I thought I would. However, the acting and plot of Transference overtake Lois stripping and a Dukes reunion IMO.. :D Devoted is a fun episode. I laugh every time I see it. However, quality wise though, both X-Ray and Red are far better IMO. I do agree though that Perry vs Run is so freaking hard.

You always keep things interesting man. That's for sure..LOL

[wellinglover66]

Episode 4 - Red
Episode 5 - Perry
Episode 6 - Transference

[Supsfan]

Exposed is a decent episode. I enjoyed it more than I thought I would. However, the acting and plot of Transference overtake Lois stripping and a Dukes reunion IMO.. :D Devoted is a fun episode. I laugh every time I see it. However, quality wise though, both X-Ray and Red are far better IMO. I do agree though that Perry vs Run is so freaking hard.

Generally I will have a higher reguard for epsiodes that end on a happy note for Clark(even more so if it the final scene). All three episodes I picked fulfill that. In the case of Transference, that is a top 20 episode for me, just a case I liked Exposed slightly more.

[rockyshadow]

Episode 4 Echo
Episode 5 Committed
Episode 6 Crossfire

[SGuthrie27]

For me, two of these choices are super-easy and one is slightly harder...

Episode 4 - Gotta be Red. When compared to the others, this is like Shakespeare quality, LOL. Plus, it's the introduction of red kryptonite, and the Kal "bad boy" persona of Clark.

Episode 5 - Run. Perry is a close second, but it's hard to beat the introduction of Bart Allen, and yet it still focuses so much on Clark, his reactions to Bart, comparing and contrasting the two characters, etc. The Chlart is even kinda cute. ;)

Episode 6 - Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm............ Ah, just for kicks, even though it may just be an example of me getting caught up in "shiny new toy syndrome," I'll go with "Crossfire!" I really LOVE that episode. And I'm not even sure why, considering how Cloisy it gets by the end of it, but... it's just really cool. I liked all the different subplots, AND the main plot, AND Speedy, AND the TV show element, AND the relationships, AND the fact that the Chlark felt easy-going and actually FRIENDLY again. "Transference" would be an extremely close second... and I would not mind in the slightest if it won. :)

[RaniaLovesClois]

Episode 4 - Instinct
Episode 5 - Committed
Episode 6 - Crossfire

[costas22]

Seems like we had some close calls for the first 3 episodes.

Episode 4: Red
Episode 5: Run
Episode 6: Transference

[lana 9]

episode 4 slumber

episode 5 run

episode 6 transference