Hey Lana people are dying, lets save the relationship talk for later

[angelfire east]

Gees how can Lana stand there and talk about her relaionsihp with Lex when she just ran through 100s of people hurting each other, most likely killing snd raping each other.

There are more important thing then her love life like I dunno people dying!:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[auxvis]

Because she is selfish and only cares for herself?

[TrevorH]

CLARK TRAPPED! TOO BE CONTINUED! ahh!

[sstray72]

That's what I was thinking!! There world is coming to an end, and Lex is looking over it like he's pleased, and all whe can think about is "I wuv you Lex!" So crazy.

[F-Stop Blues]

I feel bad for Kristin.

[alienkinfolk]

Yess Lana exposed for the self centered tyrant she really is...spitting hate and love in one day!
To clark first with the I don't know how i ever loved you & then i love you to lex while the city burns.And to hell with Chloe and poor Nell.
is lana kryptonian?she heartless!

[angelfire east]

All it'd take is "Lex I'm here, I want to be with you but right now people are dying, you have to help them. I'll be waiting."

I feel bad for KK too, She gets the worse written character.

[tankypanky]

I did find it weird that after running through the world freakin coming to an end and all the people dying and Chloe down the street being attacked and everythng, she goes up to lex and decides to talk about -"do YOU want to see how our relationship ends?"-like screw all the dying people, I haven't kissed you in a while-lets talk about that-wth?--It sucks that Kristen has to play the character that the audience is gonna hate-but I'm interested to see where they take the Lana/Lex thing next season

[Wildfire]

Yeah Im very angry what they just did to her character. . I swear and I know shes not real and its the writers but I wanted to knock some sense into her.

[Summers]

Great backdrop with the clouds and such(even though WTH why did they put Spike's coat on Zod :lol: ). But geez that was just bad. Does she not see what is going on. There are things more important.

[jimmyolsenblues]

hahahahah .

can we save the relationship talk for later
thank you anglefire, i needed that laugh.

[clarksmuse]

Originally posted by Summers
Great backdrop with the clouds and such(even though WTH why did they put Spike's coat on Zod :lol: ). But geez that was just bad. Does she not see what is going on. There are things more important.

You know, I thought that coat looked vaguely familiar! :lol:
Seriously, though, I am extremely disappointed in Lana's character. She's just proven how incredibly self-centered she really is. Clark was right to not trust her: she's proven she cannot be trusted. I felt like I was being slapped in the face, seeing her talking to Lex, who's actually Zod and looking at her like "who ARE you?", while below is chaos, mayhem, horror, etc... *sighing* I just cannot believe how the writers did this to her character.

[angelfire east]

Originally posted by Summers
Great backdrop with the clouds and such(even though WTH why did they put Spike's coat on Zod :lol: ). But geez that was just bad. Does she not see what is going on. There are things more important.

It was a great looking scene, actully the episode had some really great looking scene, it's just the story.....

LOL I thought the same thing; did they ask JM if they could use his old jacket from the old days for a scene :lol:

It was really bad. Really bad. I don't know how anyone could say she not self-centered after this.

[Batman/Superman#1]

I cant stand Lana now. her sniching on Clark. I hope next season she get hurt by Lex and realizies it was a mistake for getting involved with him and when she tries apologizies to Clark I hope her turns the other cheek because she deserves it.

[angelfire east]

Even if Lana told/asked [watever you get the point] Lex after the kiss to go save the people it's too late. At least for me, she wasted to much time with her "me me me" already

[firefly01]

Okay, but what was Lana supposed to do about the "dying people?" There's no way she could stop a riot. She'd only get herself raped. Really, it's a heck of a lot safer to be with someone else, than to be alone in that mess.

[paolinki25]

Yeah, I don't think she had much choice. I think we're gonna see a totally different Lana next season. A darker Lana, which I think can be interesting. God knows I don't want more innocent, angsty, Lana- in- pink crap. lol

[myankskent]

The problem is not Lana, the problem is Clark and Lex in this episode. Clark gets told by JorEl that he needs to destroy the vessel and that Brainiac cannot be destroyed, so what does he do? He tries to kill Brainiac.

Clark walks into the mansion, Lana wants an explanation about Lex, Clark stands there like a moron. Let's analyze this situation. Lana is dating Lex, Lana knows Lex has powers, Clark knows Lex has powers, Clark knows that Lana knows that Lex has powers, and Clark cannot tell Lana the truth about what is going on with Lex because..........because.......because...........

When Lex was talking to Clark in the barn, I was saying throughout that entire scene, you know what Lex, you're right. All Clark ever does do is lie and push people away that care about him the most. But that wasn't the problem with that scene. The problem with that scene is that Lex wasn't evil, Zod is evil, and now Zod is Lex. Can someone please tell me why in the world a season that is supposed to give us everything that we've waited to see ends with Lex not even being in the picture?!!!!!

And Lana, running through streets while people are bashing each other's heads in all to run up and tell Lex that she's willing to stick around to see where their relationship goes is a little much. Let me break out the violin. Give me a break. And how the hell does Zod know that Lex has to be up on the roof at night and why does he need Lana? He's Zod, start destroying the world right there. What the hell is going on with this show?

[shirkie]

True, nothing Lana could do to stop the riot... But do you notice she didn't even express any concern whatsoever about the people? Not even a, "Damn, Lex, do you see what's going on in the streets?! I can't believe it! It's so scary!" Just... "Lex... Snooglypants!" <SMOOCH> Give me a freaking break.
shirkie

[BadToad]

I don't think I've ever had such a burning, seething hatred of a character ever before in my tv viewing life. And I started this season as someone who liked Lana. What a difference a season makes, eh?

Clark, do me a favor when you pop yourself out of the P-Zone...never, ever save this girl again. Ever.

[smallville86]

Hey Lana, remember your friends Chloe and Lois and Clark... she isn't at all concerned about them now that the entire world is in riot mode.

[paolinki25]

Originally posted by myankskent
And how the hell does Zod know that Lex has to be up on the roof at night and why does he need Lana? He's Zod, start destroying the world right there. What the hell is going on with this show? [/B]

That's my question as well. Why would Zod give a rat's ass about Lana? That's why I don't quite understand if that wa all Zod in that scene, or there was some Lex...

[shirkie]

"Ahhh, me, Zod, supreme dictator and destroyer of worlds... Free after thousands of years of imprisonment! Must take control of new world and mold it into Kryptonian utopia-- Hello... Hot girl...? Ooooo! Schaaa-wiiiiing! Glad to see that still works after all these years! Come and KNEEL BEFORE ZOD!" :D
shirkie

[myankskent]

Originally posted by paolinki25
That's my question as well. Why would Zod give a rat's ass about Lana? That's why I don't quite understand if that wa all Zod in that scene, or there was some Lex...

I can't see there being any Lex in there. The point was to have Zod released, he can't be released and then disappear. He should have full control of Lex's body.

[clarksmuse]

Originally posted by myankskent
The problem is not Lana, the problem is Clark and Lex in this episode. Clark gets told by JorEl that he needs to destroy the vessel and that Brainiac cannot be destroyed, so what does he do? He tries to kill Brainiac.

Clark walks into the mansion, Lana wants an explanation about Lex, Clark stands there like a moron. Let's analyze this situation. Lana is dating Lex, Lana knows Lex has powers, Clark knows Lex has powers, Clark knows that Lana knows that Lex has powers, and Clark cannot tell Lana the truth about what is going on with Lex because..........because.......because...........


.... because Lana isn't worthy to know Clark's secret, especially after this episode. And I can only hope that Clark learns a valuable lesson from being trapped in the PZ: listen to Jor-El for heaven's sake!!!!

[muffinpeddler]

I love the title of this thread! LOL!

[LuckyKrypto]

Originally posted by myankskent
The problem is not Lana, the problem is Clark and Lex in this episode. Clark gets told by JorEl that he needs to destroy the vessel and that Brainiac cannot be destroyed, so what does he do? He tries to kill Brainiac.

Clark walks into the mansion, Lana wants an explanation about Lex, Clark stands there like a moron. Let's analyze this situation. Lana is dating Lex, Lana knows Lex has powers, Clark knows Lex has powers, Clark knows that Lana knows that Lex has powers, and Clark cannot tell Lana the truth about what is going on with Lex because..........because.......because...........


.....because Lana was right, he doesn't trust her. He has too much guilt about causing the death of her parents that he can't believe that she would really accept him.

[paolinki25]

Originally posted by shirkie
"Ahhh, me, Zod, supreme dictator and destroyer of worlds... Free after thousands of years of imprisonment! Must take control of new world and mold it into Kryptonian utopia-- Hello... Hot girl...? Ooooo! Schaaa-wiiiiing! Glad to see that still works after all these years! Come and KNEEL BEFORE ZOD!" :D
shirkie

:lol: That's the only possible explanation right now. lol

[TheSupaMan]

Lana always wants to hang with the big boys, until she gets her a$$ hurt then she says "You know, you were right..... maybe being around you is more dangerous than I realized'

[myankskent]

Originally posted by LuckyKrypto
.....because Lana was right, he doesn't trust her. He has too much guilt about causing the death of her parents that he can't believe that she would really accept him.

Well I agree, but if you aren't going to tell her at that point, then you can't expect Lana to stand by your side, not after Lex told her the truth about his powers literally minutes after he received them.

[angelfire east]

Originally posted by firefly01
Okay, but what was Lana supposed to do about the "dying people?" There's no way she could stop a riot. She'd only get herself raped. Really, it's a heck of a lot safer to be with someone else, than to be alone in that mess.

I'm not saying she should have stayed or go back to the roit to stop the riot and save people.

I'm saying how about asking Mr. super speed/bulletproof to go save people rather then go on about love life.

[firefly01]

Originally posted by shirkie
True, nothing Lana could do to stop the riot... But do you notice she didn't even express any concern whatsoever about the people? Not even a, "Damn, Lex, do you see what's going on in the streets?! I can't believe it! It's so scary!" Just... "Lex... Snooglypants!" <SMOOCH> Give me a freaking break.
shirkie

:lol: True that Shirkie! The scene was pretty quick though. who's to say that Lana isn't concerned and just hasn't had time to express it yet? Nah, I didn't see anything that Lana could, or should have done differently there.

[angelfire east]

myankskent my probelm is with all three of them, Clark, Lex and Lana. Clark is a idoit, Lana's idoit and I don't think it was fully Lex after he was taken.

btw love the avatar, what episode is the scene from?

[shirkie]

Well, the "Everyone is an idiot!" explanation would be fair (and works in a variety of situations), but Lana's complete disregard for what was happening-- not even a casual MENTION of the suffering of others because of the carnage going on around her (let's not forget she had to literally kick someone in the face to get to the building)-- and KNOWING Lex had powers and could potentially save everyone and not even bothering to ask him to do so? ICK. Icky, icky, icky.
shirkie

[angelfire east]

Originally posted by shirkie
Well, the "Everyone is an idiot!" explanation would be fair (and works in a variety of situations), but Lana's complete disregard for what was happening-- not even a casual MENTION of the suffering of others because of the carnage going on around her (let's not forget she had to literally kick someone in the face to get to the building)-- and KNOWING Lex had powers and could potentially save everyone and not even bothering to ask him to do so? ICK. Icky, icky, icky.
shirkie

That's what I'm saying. ^ She was attacked herself seconds before getting into the building and she still doesn't say anything.

[myankskent]

Originally posted by angelfire east
myankskent my probelm is with all three of them, Clark, Lex and Lana. Clark is a idoit, Lana's idoit and I don't think it was fully Lex after he was taken.

btw love the avatar, what episode is the scene from?

It's from hidden. And I agree that the problem is with the three of them, but Clark and Lex are supposed to run this show. When you have Clark lying to everyone and not listening to JorEl and Lex still not acting evil, they take the rest of the characters down as well. In this case, Lana is the main character being destroyed. But outside of her stupidity, I hate the way this season has ended with Clark, plus Lex isn't even a factor anymore.

[angelfire east]

Originally posted by myankskent
It's from hidden. And I agree that the problem is with the three of them, but Clark and Lex are supposed to run this show. When you have Clark lying to everyone and not listening to JorEl and Lex still not acting evil, they take the rest of the characters down as well. In this case, Lana is the main character being destroyed. But outside of her stupidity, I hate the way this season has ended with Clark, plus Lex isn't even a factor anymore.

Cool:)

Lex was out of it since the start of the episode for me. Clark is just so stupid but it's nothing new nor suprising.

[shinedown]

the whole element of lexana utterly ruined this episode for me so when lana was whining about her relationship with an evil villian while the world was coming to an end it was just the last straw. this episode cemented how much i hate her (character). she can never be worthy of clark now.

[myankskent]

Well Clark's not really worthy of much right now himself. He just put the whole planet at risk because he failed to listen to the advice given to him by his father. Now someone else is going to have to clean up the mess that Clark made, probably either JorEl or Lionel.

[shinedown]

yeah, clark was really stupid this episode. he should have killed lex once and for all but i think we could all tell it wasnt in him to do such a thing.

[sstray72]

Originally posted by shirkie
"Ahhh, me, Zod, supreme dictator and destroyer of worlds... Free after thousands of years of imprisonment! Must take control of new world and mold it into Kryptonian utopia-- Hello... Hot girl...? Ooooo! Schaaa-wiiiiing! Glad to see that still works after all these years! Come and KNEEL BEFORE ZOD!" :D
shirkie

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :lol: :lol: :lol:

aaaawwww yeah... Kneel before Zod, baby.

[aqua]

Lana is so awful, I'm not even thinking what's going on in that hollow little thing she calls a head.

[xrayvision]

Did I see correctly? Did Lana just walk past Chloe who looked like she was about to be raped? First of all, I find it impossible to believe she would escape the crowd when Lionel, Chloe and the driver of the limo who were all in the limo couldn't get out. But she did, and ignored a friend who has helped her out on so many occasions.

Walking away from Chloe was inexcusable. Ignoring any previous thing she may have done, this alone is reason not to forgive her. I can't believe how badly they screwed her character. Lana is a complete disgrace after Vessel. I am just totally disgusted. I just hope that next episode, Lion-El returns and gets Chloe the hell out of there. I think many people will abandon this show if Chloe gets raped. I still don't understand why she didn't have Clark take her to Smallville and wait by the cave with the key in case she needed Jor-El's help in the FOS.

[myankskent]

Originally posted by xrayvision
Did I see correctly? Did Lana just walk past Chloe who looked like she was about to be raped? First of all, I find it impossible to believe she would escape the crowd when Lionel, Chloe and the driver of the limo who were all in the limo couldn't get out. But she did, and ignored a friend who has helped her out on so many occasions.

Walking away from Chloe was inexcusable. Ignoring any previous thing she may have done, this alone is reason not to forgive her. I can't believe how badly they screwed her character. Lana is a complete disgrace after Vessel. I am just totally disgusted. I just hope that next episode, Lion-El returns and gets Chloe the hell out of there. I think many people will abandon this show if Chloe gets raped. I still don't understand why she didn't have Clark take her to Smallville and wait by the cave with the key in case she needed Jor-El's help in the FOS.

Lana never saw Chloe. She never even ran past the limo. What she was looking at was random people beating each other up.

[Wildfire]

Originally posted by xrayvision
Did I see correctly? Did Lana just walk past Chloe who looked like she was about to be raped? First of all, I find it impossible to believe she would escape the crowd when Lionel, Chloe and the driver of the limo who were all in the limo couldn't get out. But she did, and ignored a friend who has helped her out on so many occasions.

Walking away from Chloe was inexcusable. Ignoring any previous thing she may have done, this alone is reason not to forgive her. I can't believe how badly they screwed her character. Lana is a complete disgrace after Vessel. I am just totally disgusted. I just hope that next episode, Lion-El returns and gets Chloe the hell out of there. I think many people will abandon this show if Chloe gets raped. I still don't understand why she didn't have Clark take her to Smallville and wait by the cave with the key in case she needed Jor-El's help in the FOS.

You know the point about Lana walking by Chole who was by looks of it about to be raped is a bit unaccpetable. Sorry Myaskent but I have to say it. I cant belive she walked by looking at everything and everyone and no see chole like than and not help her. I said if she stayed with lex out of loyality to him when Zod came she would be ruined. It has come and what she has done is disgusting. She let her best freind be attacked just so she could be near Lex.

These writers need to go back to school.

[angelfire east]

It didn't look like Lana saw or heard Chloe. She wasn't looking at others being hurt all she was doing was trying to get to Luthor Corp building as fast as she could.

Chloe couldn't make it across the steet but Lana could make it all the way to the Luthor Corp building, it's aamazing what Lana Fu can do when the writters remember she has it.

[myankskent]

Originally posted by Wildfire
You know the point about Lana walking by Chole who was by looks of it about to be raped is a bit unaccpetable. Sorry Myaskent but I have to say it. I cant belive she walked by looking at everything and everyone and no see chole like than and not help her. I said if she stayed with lex out of loyality to him when Zod came she would be ruined. It has come and what she has done is disgusting. She let her best freind be attacked just so she could be near Lex.

These writers need to go back to school.

She never ran past the limo. Plus there were too many people around for Lana to see Chloe. Here's the problem with that scene, it was probably shot on a stage so it looked really small. But Lana hopped over a couple of cars and then gave a kick to that one guy and entered the building. The limo was not near her.

[Rafael122]

I'm still trying to figure out if Lana actually saw what was happening. She was just randomly walking past people, then someone grabs her shoulder and then she all of a sudden goes into Jackie Chan mode, finishes him off, and then keeps on running like if nothing happened.

[Ephrils]

Plus we didn't even see her view from there. It was total chaos. She likely didn't see anything around her but rioters everywhere. And again, if she did, what could she do? She fought off one attack, but she could have been raped trying to help Chloe as well.

We didn't see her see it though, so in TV land, that amounts to her not seeing it, or even being somewhere else in town.

[cotton candy girl]

Originally posted by BadToad
I don't think I've ever had such a burning, seething hatred of a character ever before in my tv viewing life.

It's just a show. Why waste time hating a character? (Just a question)

[Rafael122]

We don't hate the character, just the way its written.

Actually check that, we do hate the character because it is written poorly.

[cotton candy girl]

Who is we? I was talking to the person I quoted.

[TalkinMac]

Yes we have distinguished Lana is self centered and annoying...
We are supposed to assume she is naive and doesnt know better, I call bull.

[svsabbiesv]

ya i seen her n she was kickin some butt..n i was like oh lana's savin the day for a change thinkin she was gonna help chloe..n then they showed lex..n i was oooooooooooooooh no thats right she must run to lex ....she is selfish! but hey maybe its a game she is playin...we'll see in season 6

[dhacker615]

Originally posted by angelfire east
It didn't look like Lana saw or heard Chloe. She wasn't looking at others being hurt all she was doing was trying to get to Luthor Corp building as fast as she could.

Chloe couldn't make it across the steet but Lana could make it all the way to the Luthor Corp building, it's aamazing what Lana Fu can do when the writters remember she has it.

It was a deliberate cross-cut. They wanted to put some emphasis on exactly what a self-obssesed twit Lana has become. It certainly worked.

[cotton candy girl]

I don't think she's a twit. I don't understand her sometimes, but I don't hate her.

[Rafael122]

Lana's too uhm...how should I say, obsessed with having someone with her.

[myankskent]

To me, people can hate Lana all they want, but in my opinion, when the two characters that have these big futures in the superman mythology, Clark and Lex, are an absolute mess, particularly this season, it is a waste of time bashing Lana. Clark didn't listen to JorEl in this episode not because of Lana. And Lex not even having a role to play in the final scenes of the finale has nothing to do with Lana.

[xrayvision]

Lex & Lana deserve each other. Lana has deserted any/all morals or sense of right/wrong (good/bad) she had by stubbornly staying with Lex. Does she really think nothing happened to him after being sucked into the ship? C'mon, gimme a break.

If you really look at it, Clark's lies have been for protection while Lana's have hurt many people. It all goes back to how she set up her apartment as if it was ransacked so she could hide the stone Jason got her from China and have a cover story to tell Jason. She is talking about Clark not being able to trust her, yet she did the same with her previous boyfriend. Her stubborn foolishness to mess with things she doesn't understand (the stone from China) mirrors Lex's (all those kryptonite experiments he does). And people have gotten hurt from both of them. She said she somehow believed the stone was for Clark, yet kept it until the damage was done. That damage resulted in getting blood on the stone which caused the Kryptonians & Fine to arrive on Earth and kill many people and cause chaos. Even though she was possessed at the time Genevieve was killed, Lana should have had the brains to know what people would do for the stone & how dangerous it was. She saw it herself in Sacred. She trusted Clark to accompany her to China, yet told him nothing about it after not being able to trust Jason or Lex.

I think TPTB made monumental mistakes with Lana, and killed her once precious innocence. Clark has done bad stuff as well, but what he did never caused the widespread havoc that is still happening all because of blood getting on the stone. And no, Clark couldn't tell her the secret in S4, because he knew that she had that tattoo and that whatever he told her could be used against him if Isabel returned. At this point, I'm glad he didn't tell her. Lois, who has been had much less to do with the events in Smallville has an instinct or gut feeling where she can sense who is good and who is bad. Lana doesn't have this, and can't be trusted with the secret.

[WriteAngel1]

lana is poorly written and im not suprised by what the writers had her do in this episode....*sigh*

[Kal-El1978]

Originally posted by angelfire east
Gees how can Lana stand there and talk about her relaionsihp with Lex when she just ran through 100s of people hurting each other, most likely killing snd raping each other.

There are more important thing then her love life like I dunno people dying!:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Holy Moly....I could not agree more. The writers should all be fired. They have messed up Smallville. It's completely stupid now. They don't give a rats ass about the fans.

It could not have been a worst episode. I don't know what else to say.

[Ephrils]

Harshness to Lana is everywhere on this forum too. With as big as it is I guess it's to be expected though, to a point.

I think its easy to sit back and critisize her decisions, but when you look at it through her eyes, they're often very understandable. Time to walk in someone else's shoes besides Clark's for a change...

[xrayvision]

Originally posted by angelfire east
Chloe couldn't make it across the steet but Lana could make it all the way to the Luthor Corp building, it's aamazing what Lana Fu can do when the writters remember she has it.

That scene lacked all credibility. If a freakin' limo couldn't get out, Lana would have no chance of getting past the rioters.

[Kal-El1978]

Originally posted by F-Stop Blues
I feel bad for Kristin.

Me too...Basically they don't care about Smallville anymore. It's just going to go down the tubes now. Nothing absolutely nothing is working on the show right now. I feel like scrapping my dvds because basically what the show is demonstrating that Lana and the characters never had character. She must have always been a selfish person from day one. Guess we were fooled too.

I tell you they are just using fans for some stupid experiment. I could not be more dissapointed tonight. Guess lots of fans saw it coming.

[cotton candy girl]

Originally posted by Ephrils
Harshness to Lana is everywhere on this forum too. With as big as it is I guess it's to be expected though, to a point.

I think its easy to sit back and critisize her decisions, but when you look at it through her eyes, they're often very understandable. Time to walk in someone else's shoes besides Clark's for a change...

I think a lot of the people who bash Lana are disillusioned Chlark fans, but that's just my theory.

[Kal-El1978]

Originally posted by Wildfire
Yeah Im very angry what they just did to her character. . I swear and I know shes not real and its the writers but I wanted to knock some sense into her.

Its a disgrace.
It really really does not fit into anything in Smallville. Have some corporate lackies taken over the Smallville show. Maybe Zod infiltrated the writers. The aliens have truly come. Arg

[WriteAngel1]

Originally posted by cotton candy girl
I think a lot of the people who bash Lana are disillusioned Chlark fans, but that's just my theory.

I feel the same way about most clana fans....its hard, like you cant like both girls. though i dont see why anyone would 'willingly' like lana :p - i believe both clana and chlark fans are crazy and dillusional :rotfl: and i do feel sorry for KK, the way they have written her character. :(

[canon]

OMG, here we go again.....Lana bashing. I bet there'll be some 280+ posts on this thread just like the one in the Oracle thread. :-)

[xrayvision]

Originally posted by cotton candy girl
I think a lot of the people who bash Lana are disillusioned Chlark fans, but that's just my theory.

I could care less about Chlark. What they did with Lana is outright disgusting. I can't stand her tunnel vision for Lex and how she is ignoring things a 6 year old would be able to catch. All characters have faults, but this is just too much. Well, if being the devil's girlfriend is OK with her, then good for her.

I do feel bad for Kristin. I hope this madness ends soon, otherwise I don't understand how she would like to remain on the show.

[myankskent]

Originally posted by xrayvision
Lex & Lana deserve each other. Lana has deserted any/all morals or sense of right/wrong (good/bad) she had by stubbornly staying with Lex. Does she really think nothing happened to him after being sucked into the ship? C'mon, gimme a break.

Of course Lana knew something happened to Lex after he was sucked into the ship. Lex told her that he got powers, remember? Plus she told Chloe that she knew Lex was getting in over his head with Fine but after Lex talked to her at the mansion, her mind was put at ease because Lex was still the same person with the powers.



If you really look at it, Clark's lies have been for protection while Lana's have hurt many people. It all goes back to how she set up her apartment as if it was ransacked so she could hide the stone Jason got her from China and have a cover story to tell Jason. She is talking about Clark not being able to trust her, yet she did the same with her previous boyfriend. Her stubborn foolishness to mess with things she doesn't understand (the stone from China) mirrors Lex's (all those kryptonite experiments he does). And people have gotten hurt from both of them. She said she somehow believed the stone was for Clark, yet kept it until the damage was done. That damage resulted in getting blood on the stone which caused the Kryptonians & Fine to arrive on Earth and kill many people and cause chaos. Even though she was possessed at the time Genevieve was killed, Lana should have had the brains to know what people would do for the stone & how dangerous it was. She saw it herself in Sacred. She trusted Clark to accompany her to China, yet told him nothing about it after not being able to trust Jason or Lex.


Actually, it was Clark who ended up screwing things up with the stones. Had he listened to JorEl at the beginning of season 4, the stones would never have ended up in the hands of humans. Plus, Jason was crazier about the stones than Lana was. Lana may have lied to Jason in the relationship, but the stones being in her hands would've been a lot safer than if they were in his, and the stone never would've ended up with Clark. And again, comparing Lex's evilness to Lana is ridiculous. Last I looked, Lana hasn't strapped people down to a table and tortured them to get her answers. She is misguided, yes, and she is stupid, but she is only as smart as she can be at this point based on the fact that she has no facts compared to just about every other character on this show.



I think TPTB made monumental mistakes with Lana, and killed her once precious innocence. Clark has done bad stuff as well, but what he did never caused the widespread havoc that is still happening all because of blood getting on the stone. And no, Clark couldn't tell her the secret in S4, because he knew that she had that tattoo and that whatever he told her could be used against him if Isabel returned. At this point, I'm glad he didn't tell her. Lois, who has been had much less to do with the events in Smallville has an instinct or gut feeling where she can sense who is good and who is bad. Lana doesn't have this, and can't be trusted with the secret.

No one can be trusted with the secret. That's why Clark hasn't told anyone himself. Maybe Lana can't be trusted with the secret, but I'm not going to make an opinion on that based on a poorly written plothole filled Reckoning episode where we are not even sure the extent to how much Clark even told her about himself.


Originally posted by angelfire east
It didn't look like Lana saw or heard Chloe. She wasn't looking at others being hurt all she was doing was trying to get to Luthor Corp building as fast as she could.

Chloe couldn't make it across the steet but Lana could make it all the way to the Luthor Corp building, it's aamazing what Lana Fu can do when the writters remember she has it.

Yet Chloe had no problem running all that way through the streets before getting into the limo. It was her getting into the limo that did her in because she was pulled out of there. But she was moving around just as well as Lana on her two feet.

[Kal-El1978]

Originally posted by BadToad
I don't think I've ever had such a burning, seething hatred of a character ever before in my tv viewing life. And I started this season as someone who liked Lana. What a difference a season makes, eh?

Clark, do me a favor when you pop yourself out of the P-Zone...never, ever save this girl again. Ever.

I feel the same. Lana is dead. I'm sorry to say. Smallville is dead. It's turning into....well not even worth tuning in. This is just a bad version of when Superman was young. Not going to watch more...thats how I feel right now.

[myankskent]

Originally posted by Kal-El1978
I feel the same. Lana is dead. I'm sorry to say. Smallville is dead. It's turning into....well not even worth tuning in. This is just a bad version of when Superman was young. Not going to watch more...thats how I feel right now.

So what you are saying is that because Lana is dead, Smallville is dead? Lana isn't Smallville. Her character is annoying, yes, but Clark and Lex are the two biggest characters on this show and they are being screwed up by things that go way beyond Lana's presence on this show.

[xrayvision]

Originally posted by myankskent
Actually, it was Clark who ended up screwing things up with the stones. Had he listened to JorEl at the beginning of season 4, the stones would never have ended up in the hands of humans. Plus, Jason was crazier about the stones than Lana was. Lana may have lied to Jason in the relationship, but the stones being in her hands would've been a lot safer than if they were in his, and the stone never would've ended up with Clark. And again, comparing Lex's evilness to Lana is ridiculous. Last I looked, Lana hasn't strapped people down to a table and tortured them to get her answers. She is misguided, yes, and she is stupid, but she is only as smart as she can be at this point based on the fact that she has no facts compared to just about every other character on this show.

I don't blame Clark since it was not his doing that caused his Kal-El re-programming to take a back seat to his Clark Kent half. Plus, between Clark's passiveness not to act on getting the stones vs. Lex's/Jason's/Lana's/Genevieve's active search for the stones, I blame those who had bad intentions or lack of understanding over those who just didn't search for them.

[Kal-El1978]

Originally posted by LuckyKrypto
.....because Lana was right, he doesn't trust her. He has too much guilt about causing the death of her parents that he can't believe that she would really accept him.

Clark trust her.
Clark does not want to tell her because she died the last time.

The writers have done the rest to kill Lana.

It's not about he does not trust her.

[InMyPlace]

I can't believe how annoying they have made Lana. Hell, she's more than annoying. I wanted to see Clark smack her against the wall like he did Fine.

It's so ridiculous. 'I can't believe I ever loved you.'

I'm sooo sick of Clark just standing there like a punk too! Say something!

I've already watched too much of Smallville to stop watching, but next season hopefully she pays the price for being such an idiot.

[cotton candy girl]

Clark is a punk. Fine told him it was his fault.

[xrayvision]

I seriously hope that upon his return from the Phantom Zone, Clark is a much different person. Much less forgiving, much more pro-active, and on a mission.

I would like Jor-El to release him from the PZ, and for him to make a stop on the Moon where those meteors crashed in Commencement and turn green-k to black-k and fly back to Earth with his Kal-El half released and whoop some major ass.

[InMyPlace]

Originally posted by Kal-El1978
Clark trust her.
Clark does not want to tell her because she died the last time.

The writers have done the rest to kill Lana.

It's not about he does not trust her.


If Clark tells her now, she won't die. She almost died because it was his fathers whole plan. Since Johnathan died, it's safe now.

She doesn't have to tell anyone that she knows. That whole thing is stupid.

When they had Martha tell Clark that maybe she wasn't 'the one,' that was basically telling us this. They didn't stick that in there for nothing.

How come no one is trying to kill Chloe? lol

[myankskent]

Originally posted by xrayvision
I don't blame Clark since it was not his doing that caused his Kal-El re-programming to take a back seat to his Clark Kent half. Plus, between Clark's passiveness not to act on getting the stones vs. Lex's/Jason's/Lana's/Genevieve's active search for the stones, I blame those who had bad intentions or lack of understanding over those who just didn't search for them.

Clark knew he had to search for them and he knew that they were meant for him. But he denied his heritage. The stone would've been safe had Lionel not told Genevieve that Lana had it. But if we are going to blame a possessed Lana on the Brainiac and the ships coming to earth, then I have every right to blame Clark's lazy approach all 4th season, especially since he had the proper knowledge about the stones given to him by JorEl. There was a special section of the cave designed just for him to collect the stones and yet he chose not to. Just like this season, when Clark found out that Brainiac was back after Chloe showed him the picture of him in Honduras, Clark ran down to Honduras, never found fine, and gave up on it instead of running to JorEl for help. In standing around and doing nothing, he allowed Brainiac to get a foot hold on Lex and the earth and Clark put the finishing touches on the massacre by choosing to ignore JorEl YET AGAIN literally minutes after he spoke with him as he tried to destroy Brainiac, a computer that cannot be destroyed.

[cotton candy girl]

Originally posted by xrayvision
I could care less about Chlark. What they did with Lana is outright disgusting. I can't stand her tunnel vision for Lex and how she is ignoring things a 6 year old would be able to catch. All characters have faults, but this is just too much. Well, if being the devil's girlfriend is OK with her, then good for her.

I do feel bad for Kristin. I hope this madness ends soon, otherwise I don't understand how she would like to remain on the show.

With all due respect, if that's not you, then I wasn't referring to you. But anyways, If she's guilty, then so is the BDA.

[myankskent]

Originally posted by InMyPlace
I can't believe how annoying they have made Lana. Hell, she's more than annoying. I wanted to see Clark smack her against the wall like he did Fine.

It's so ridiculous. 'I can't believe I ever loved you.'

I'm sooo sick of Clark just standing there like a punk too! Say something!

I've already watched too much of Smallville to stop watching, but next season hopefully she pays the price for being such an idiot.

He had his chance to say something when she asked him what was really wrong with Lex, he chose not to say anything and give up his secret to her. So a punk he will remain if he keeps hiding the truth from people.

[Batman_Beyonder]

I want Lana dead before the end of season 6 whose with me? Sorry kristen i love you, but your selfish character has got ta go.

[angelfire east]

Originally posted by myankskent
Of course Lana knew something happened to Lex after he was sucked into the ship. Lex told her that he got powers, remember? Plus she told Chloe that she knew Lex was getting in over his head with Fine but after Lex talked to her at the mansion, her mind was put at ease because Lex was still the same person with the powers.

Actually, it was Clark who ended up screwing things up with the stones.

Yet Chloe had no problem running all that way through the streets before getting into the limo. It was her getting into the limo that did her in because she was pulled out of there. But she was moving around just as well as Lana on her two feet.

I think she was really foolish to think that's all that happened to Lex at the beginning of hte episode. She proberly was so scared with everything that happened she wanted to believe all they did was give him powers so she didn't have to face more of it all.


Clark was the one who messed up with the stones, Lana's not blameless but if Clark had actully do what he should have Lana won't have been in that place.

Actully in season 2 the Daily Panet was shown to be rihgt across the steet from Luthor Corp so she didn't reall run that far.

[Dangerous George]

Have to chime in here. Me.

What a pathetic episode!

severely disappointed, the last episode of a given season was supposed to entice one to wait with great anticipation.

One does not really even care to look at Smallville anymore. Crap! Crap! Crap! This show is not supposed to be about Superman, and all the scenes tonight primarily dealt with Superman issues. This show is all over the place-they do not, repeat, do not know what in the name of common sense they are doing! I am certain that they succeeded in turning off a ton of folk, yours included.

Unfortunately, this show is on its last leg and limping at that. Can you imagine with all the fertile materials that they can draw upon, they come up with this? An obvious inexperienced teenager, pathological liar who is afraid of his shadow at times is supposed to save this world? Hell, he can’t even follow the basic instructions that his poppa gave him in earnest. This is a major problem with the introduction of FOS - he should have long time `go got his hindquarters up there to get the needed training to be able to deal with this mess. Now that he’s in the “zone” he ain’t getting out of there on his lonesome, but wait....this is Smallville the land of illogical scriptings, madcap writings, unintelligible plotlines, miscast characters, and implausible relationships.

About the only redeeming element of this episode is that they for sure put the final nail in the “clanacoffin,” that’s clana-coffin. Why? because if bdb (that’s big dumb bunny) ever takes that misguided tramp back, I’ll start vomiting. What a succubus Lana has become. They for sure have set out to destroy that character, you have to wonder why for pity sake? They made a giant mistake in the beginning of this show putting TW and KK together - the chemistry is too strong. The only two females that ever had a chance of competing with Lana regarding Clark’s affection were Kyla? and Alicia and these yo-yos bumped both of them off. Lana and Lex together is, how shall one say this? A nauseating joke! Bad joke at that! What an unconscionable script! Folks dying right before yuh. “Say, are you prepared to take what we have to the next level, cus, I sho am?” lol. “Though all hell assail yuh, baby I’m here for yuh!” “Folks, can die in the streets, but fo you I’ll still be sweet.” Horrible! Lana no longer has any redeeming value. They trashed this character horribly. I thought I would never say this, but bump that skant! And Do it NOW!

TPTB obviously wanted to kill clana and they succeeded in actually killing Lana and it is probably unsalvageable now. There are many faithful viewers on this show and they for sure deserve better than what has passed for entertainment on SV since about reckoning. I don’t think I’ll be up for it anymore. Boy. A good thing it’s in summer mode, but I don’t think that they can recover from this. Time will tell.

Peace.

[sstray72]

Ugh. Clark doesn't tell her because she hates aliens, she hates the meteor shower because it killed her parents, and she hates the beings that the meteor shower spawned because they stalk her and attempt to murder her. Its canon and it was realistic, I freaking hate Reckoning for erasing 4 years of WHY Clark never told Lana. Even in this episode she was disgusted at Lex when she thought that he had been turned into an alien. It was only when he clarified that he was still Lex that she seemed okay with it. I don't think that Lana should've had to have been out there in a riot looking for Chloe, but damn at least show that your "loved ones" are at least a concern! She had no concern over a burning city. She had no concern of the death and destruction. All she cared about was making out with Lex.

[xrayvision]

Lana wasn't possessed when she hid the stone. But she knew that she still had the tattoo and could become possessed again at any time. She knew enough about Isobel's thirst for getting the stones to make her realize how dangerous they were, and that there was a possibility that Isobel could have taken over her body forever.

Yes Clark was inactive, but I think after what happened during that summer, he may have had good reason to. I think Sacred was the first episode where he could have realized that Jor-El was on his side, but still at that time, there was too much perceived ill-will that was done by Jor-El. And don't forget, when Clark went after the Transference stone, he almost died in Lionel's body.

My synopsis is that Clark should have gone looking for the stones far more after Sacred. But between that and conciously knowing that people were willing to kill for the stone and still hiding it (and lying about it), I think the more culpable choice is the latter. Lana knew that the 1st 2 times Isobel possessed her, it was Clark who was around and happened to break the possession. If she had that gut instinct, it would have made her give the stone to Clark, something she wound up doing after the damage was done anyway.

[Kal-El1978]

Originally posted by myankskent
So what you are saying is that because Lana is dead, Smallville is dead? Lana isn't Smallville. Her character is annoying, yes, but Clark and Lex are the two biggest characters on this show and they are being screwed up by things that go way beyond Lana's presence on this show.

No no

it's the writing

I saw a thread earlier about Lana Bashing.
Let smake that Smallville Writer Bashing.

A good point was brought up thou, it is just a show. Oh well i'm sure there will be a new audience for this show. Heck lots of people watch American Idol. :)

[beefywellingtom]

Originally posted by cotton candy girl
Clark is a punk. Fine told him it was his fault.

Clark is most definitely a punk. When Lex said "Well at least I walked away with the part you loved the most" (meaning Lana) Clark should've knocked the unholy Zod out of baldy. But alas with all his emerged abilities, his "balloons" remain unseen. Maybe those Kryptonians lack man-junk...That could be why Zod was able to destroy Krypton in the first place.:rotfl: :rotfl:

[angelfire east]

Originally posted by cotton candy girl
With all due respect, if that's not you, then I wasn't referring to you. But anyways, If she's guilty, then so is the BDA.

He is guilt and so is she. He's a competely idoit and she a fool, well not she a self-centred fool.

[SmallvilleMan]

AE, why do you keep bring this Lana topics up? I understand you don't like what she does, but I think we all know by now they've destroyed her character to death, so what's the point? She could do anything and it wouldn't surprise me, they killed her!!

[Kal-El1978]

Originally posted by InMyPlace
If Clark tells her now, she won't die. She almost died because it was his fathers whole plan. Since Johnathan died, it's safe now.

She doesn't have to tell anyone that she knows. That whole thing is stupid.

When they had Martha tell Clark that maybe she wasn't 'the one,' that was basically telling us this. They didn't stick that in there for nothing.

How come no one is trying to kill Chloe? lol

Great Point

Under the circumstance from the time that he told her. Some one close to Clark would die and also Lana was visiting Lex which is it's own mystery. My point is that Clark does not want to tell her based on those events because he did decide to tell her once. You are correct.

[Batman_Beyonder]

ATTENTION EVERYONE...KNELL BEFORE YOUR NEW KING... Together we can take down the one called Lana.

[Nightvision]

Maybe it's showing signs that the writers are turning Lana's character into an evil one.

If that's the case. Good for them. A evil Lana is so much better than a goody good boring one.

[SmallvilleMan]

Evil Lana? According to some people she's always been evil and after this season, she might as well be.

[myankskent]

Originally posted by xrayvision
Lana wasn't possessed when she hid the stone. But she knew that she still had the tattoo and could become possessed again at any time. She knew enough about Isobel's thirst for getting the stones to make her realize how dangerous they were, and that there was a possibility that Isobel could have taken over her body forever.

Yes Clark was inactive, but I think after what happened during that summer, he may have had good reason to. I think Sacred was the first episode where he could have realized that Jor-El was on his side, but still at that time, there was too much perceived ill-will that was done by Jor-El. And don't forget, when Clark went after the Transference stone, he almost died in Lionel's body.

My synopsis is that Clark should have gone looking for the stones far more after Sacred. But between that and conciously knowing that people were willing to kill for the stone and still hiding it (and lying about it), I think the more culpable choice is the latter. Lana knew that the 1st 2 times Isobel possessed her, it was Clark who was around and happened to break the possession. If she had that gut instinct, it would have made her give the stone to Clark, something she wound up doing after the damage was done anyway.

Regardless of how it went down in season 4, Clark still sat on his butt and allowed all of this to happen. Putting that aside, his decision making in this episode is absolutely atrocious. Clark has learned nothing over the years. JorEl even told him that he knows that Clark was still getting over Jonathan's death, he gave Clark advice and he flat out rejected it. No excuses anymore for Clark, and my main point is, if Clark, a man/alien who has all of the information about everything in this show, makes stupid decisions and mistakes with all of this knowledge, why in the world would we bash Lana, a character clearly designed to be the least informed character on this show regarding anything supernatural related/Lex related? Couple that with her being stupid just like Clark, and that is what you get from Lana.

[Kal-El1978]

Originally posted by Dangerous George
Have to chime in here. Me.

What a pathetic episode!

severely disappointed, the last episode of a given season was supposed to entice one to wait with great anticipation.

One does not really even care to look at Smallville anymore. Crap! Crap! Crap! This show is not supposed to be about Superman, and all the scenes tonight primarily dealt with Superman issues. This show is all over the place-they do not, repeat, do not know what in the name of common sense they are doing! I am certain that they succeeded in turning off a ton of folk, yours included.

Unfortunately, this show is on its last leg and limping at that. Can you imagine with all the fertile materials that they can draw upon, they come up with this? An obvious inexperienced teenager, pathological liar who is afraid of his shadow at times is supposed to save this world? Hell, he can’t even follow the basic instructions that his poppa gave him in earnest. This is a major problem with the introduction of FOS - he should have long time `go got his hindquarters up there to get the needed training to be able to deal with this mess. Now that he’s in the “zone” he ain’t getting out of there on his lonesome, but wait....this is Smallville the land of illogical scriptings, madcap writings, unintelligible plotlines, miscast characters, and implausible relationships.

About the only redeeming element of this episode is that they for sure put the final nail in the “clanacoffin,” that’s clana-coffin. Why? because if bdb (that’s big dumb bunny) ever takes that misguided tramp back, I’ll start vomiting. What a succubus Lana has become. They for sure have set out to destroy that character, you have to wonder why for pity sake? They made a giant mistake in the beginning of this show putting TW and KK together - the chemistry is too strong. The only two females that ever had a chance of competing with Lana regarding Clark’s affection were Kyla? and Alicia and these yo-yos bumped both of them off. Lana and Lex together is, how shall one say this? A nauseating joke! Bad joke at that! What an unconscionable script! Folks dying right before yuh. “Say, are you prepared to take what we have to the next level, cus, I sho am?” lol. “Though all hell assail yuh, baby I’m here for yuh!” “Folks, can die in the streets, but fo you I’ll still be sweet.” Horrible! Lana no longer has any redeeming value. They trashed this character horribly. I thought I would never say this, but bump that skant! And Do it NOW!

TPTB obviously wanted to kill clana and they succeeded in actually killing Lana and it is probably unsalvageable now. There are many faithful viewers on this show and they for sure deserve better than what has passed for entertainment on SV since about reckoning. I don’t think I’ll be up for it anymore. Boy. A good thing it’s in summer mode, but I don’t think that they can recover from this. Time will tell.

Peace.

exactly exactly exactly

I will be spending my time at the beach and when Season 6 come around, screw Smallville. I would rather watch Dawson Creek and that will never happen.

The writers have destroyed Smallville.

Peace

[xrayvision]

Originally posted by myankskent
Regardless of how it went down in season 4, Clark still sat on his butt and allowed all of this to happen. Putting that aside, his decision making in this episode is absolutely atrocious. Clark has learned nothing over the years. JorEl even told him that he knows that Clark was still getting over Jonathan's death, he gave Clark advice and he flat out rejected it. No excuses anymore for Clark, and my main point is, if Clark, a man/alien who has all of the information about everything in this show, makes stupid decisions and mistakes with all of this knowledge, why in the world would be bash Lana, a character clearly designed to be the least informed character on this show regarding anything supernatural related/Lex related? Couple that with her being stupid just like Clark, and that is what you get from Lana.

Which decision was atrocious? The one not to kill Lex and throw the knife at Fine? If I were him, I would think that would destroy Fine (maybe the ship too since Fine is an extension of it) and end the coming of Zod. Clark is not a killer, and I'm glad he didn't kill Lex (he obviously wouldn't). But I find it hard to believe how easily he was trapped in the PZ when in Arrival, he easily overpowered its suction vortex (the portal was much further away than in Arrival, where he escaped).

[SmallvilleMan]

Regardless of how it went down in season 4, Clark still sat on his butt and allowed all of this to happen. Putting that aside, his decision making in this episode is absolutely atrocious. Clark has learned nothing over the years. JorEl even told him that he knows that Clark was still getting over Jonathan's death, he gave Clark advice and he flat out rejected it. No excuses anymore for Clark, and my main point is, if Clark, a man/alien who has all of the information about everything in this show, makes stupid decisions and mistakes with all of this knowledge, why in the world would we bash Lana, a character clearly designed to be the least informed character on this show regarding anything supernatural related/Lex related? Couple that with her being stupid just like Clark, and that is what you get from Lana.

Lana is the less informed character. HOWEVER, her actions after reckoning were inexcusable to say the least. She FINALLY deserves to get bashed.

[Wildfire]

Originally posted by myankskent
Regardless of how it went down in season 4, Clark still sat on his butt and allowed all of this to happen. Putting that aside, his decision making in this episode is absolutely atrocious. Clark has learned nothing over the years. JorEl even told him that he knows that Clark was still getting over Jonathan's death, he gave Clark advice and he flat out rejected it. No excuses anymore for Clark, and my main point is, if Clark, a man/alien who has all of the information about everything in this show, makes stupid decisions and mistakes with all of this knowledge, why in the world would we bash Lana, a character clearly designed to be the least informed character on this show regarding anything supernatural related/Lex related? Couple that with her being stupid just like Clark, and that is what you get from Lana.

This is the problem with Lana I though the entire eppy even the sene wehre Chole is being attacked was by design to make her look uncaring and flat out idotic. I really feel sorry for Kristen like dark or not this is pure ruination of Lana Lang, what do we get next season a Zexana baby name Clark Luthod?

Geez why dont someone throw the writers in the PZ please.

[myankskent]

Originally posted by xrayvision
Which decision was atrocious? The one not to kill Lex and throw the knife at Fine? If I were him, I would think that would destroy Fine (maybe the ship too since Fine is an extension of it) and end the coming of Zod. Clark is not a killer, and I'm glad he didn't kill Lex (he obviously wouldn't). But I find it hard to believe how easily he was trapped in the PZ when in Arrival, he easily overpowered its suction vortex (the portal was much further away than in Arrival, where he escaped).

JorEl told him at the fortress that Brainiac cannot be destroyed and the only way to end everything is to kill the vessel with the dagger. So deciding to throw the dagger at Fine is a terrible decision to make based on what JorEl told Clark. He might as well have left things alone and had Lionel just continually erase all of the brainiacs.

I think he got sucked in because it was Zod who created the phantom zone, maybe it was more powerful because he created this particular one. I really don't know. There wasn't really anything to grab a hold of either. The barn was weak.

[Kal-El1978]

Originally posted by Wildfire
This is the problem with Lana I though the entire eppy even the sene wehre Chole is being attacked was by design to make her look uncaring and flat out idotic. I really feel sorry for Kristen like dark or not this is pure ruination of Lana Lang, what do we get next season a Zexana baby name Clark Luthod?

Geez why dont someone throw the writers in the PZ please.

Agreed

I hope there reading.

To understand why the fans are screaming. Get the writers to watch the other Seasons of Smallville and do some research on what Superman is about.

Don't let a writer write until they have done this.

It's too late I think thou. :(

[myankskent]

Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
Lana is the less informed character. HOWEVER, her actions after reckoning were inexcusable to say the least. She FINALLY deserves to get bashed.

Lana does deserve to be bashed but again, I can't see how she can stand by someone who lies to her. I think the problem is that Lex has become the hero of the show because he tells the truth more these days than Clark. Literally minutes after Lex gets the powers he tells Lana. How's that for irony? Clark may have saved Lana in the past, but just go back to Phoenix when Clark told Lana that how he acted in Metropolis is a part of him that he can never escape. If we use continuity, Lana remembers those moments with Clark especially after he broke up with her by lying to her just like he did in season 3. She needs an explanation and Clark's not saying a word. I mean the least he can do is make something up rather than standing there looking like he is lying.

[xrayvision]

Originally posted by myankskent
JorEl told him at the fortress that Brainiac cannot be destroyed and the only way to end everything is to kill the vessel with the dagger. So deciding to throw the dagger at Fine is a terrible decision to make based on what JorEl told Clark. He might as well have left things alone and had Lionel just continually erase all of the brainiacs.

I think he got sucked in because it was Zod who created the phantom zone, maybe it was more powerful because he created this particular one. I really don't know. There wasn't really anything to grab a hold of either. The barn was weak.

Well, Clark is not a killer. I think he will ultimately destroy the ship in order to restore the technology and kill the virus that Fine unleashed on the internet. He will probably stab it with a crystal, which may destroy all Brainiacs, or just leave them without their regenerating abilities.

As far as not having anything to grab, the force of the PZ (the way it pulled him into it in this episode) would be too strong even if he held onto something. Last time, his superspeed/flying was stronger than the pull of the PZ. But since Jor-El can open the PZ, I'd say he will be released without too much trouble.

[myankskent]

Originally posted by xrayvision
Well, Clark is not a killer. I think he will ultimately destroy the ship in order to restore the technology and kill the virus that Fine unleashed on the internet. He will probably stab it with a crystal, which may destroy all Brainiacs, or just leave them without their regenerating abilities.

As far as not having anything to grab, the force of the PZ (the way it pulled him into it in this episode) would be too strong even if he held onto something. Last time, his superspeed/flying was stronger than the pull of the PZ. But since Jor-El can open the PZ, I'd say he will be released without too much trouble.

I think it has to do more with the fact that the effects team made it look stronger this time. They might have wanted it to be stronger in the premier but weren't able to figure out a way or just didn't have the budget to do it. It's just like the phantom Zone iteself, it looked much better in this episode than it did in Arrival. Over time, they always look to improve the effects to make them look more realistic.

[SmallvilleMan]

Lana does deserve to be bashed but again, I can't see how she can stand by someone who lies to her. I think the problem is that Lex has become the hero of the show because he tells the truth more these days than Clark. Literally minutes after Lex gets the powers he tells Lana. How's that for irony? Clark may have saved Lana in the past, but just go back to Phoenix when Clark told Lana that how he acted in Metropolis is a part of him that he can never escape. If we use continuity, Lana remembers those moments with Clark especially after he broke up with her by lying to her just like he did in season 3. She needs an explanation and Clark's not saying a word. I mean the least he can do is make something up rather than standing there looking like he is lying.

Telling the truth doesn't make you a hero. First off, Lana should know why Clark does it. Does it make what he's doing right? No, but she KNOWS LEX. Lex can tell her the truth all he wants, but what he did in commencement should have sealed the deal. Someone does that to you and you go into a relationship with him? Even Clark in his DARKEST hours never did anything like that. I'll sum up in two reasons why she should have still stayed loyal to clark, besides what lex did in commencement:

1. He's saved her a million times. So obviously he knows what he's talking about when it comes to danger.

2. She's suppose to love him with all her heart.

She quit on him, just like he quit on her.

[angelfire east]

Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
AE, why do you keep bring this Lana topics up? I understand you don't like what she does, but I think we all know by now they've destroyed her character to death, so what's the point? She could do anything and it wouldn't surprise me, they killed her!!

Because this time I was actully suprised with Lana. On the roof top I thought she'd say something to Lex right away. I thought better of her character, I don't know why I still did but I did.

We've seen her act selhishly before but this time it was different too me, so many people, she ran throw it, felt it and still she desides to go on about her love life.

[destiny calls]

Lana sure showed her true colors this season. i knew the true her had to show sooner or later.... of couse she's shown bits of it since S2.

please Zod, zap Lana up into your spaceship and take her away forever.

[xrayvision]

Originally posted by myankskent
Lana does deserve to be bashed but again, I can't see how she can stand by someone who lies to her. I think the problem is that Lex has become the hero of the show because he tells the truth more these days than Clark. Literally minutes after Lex gets the powers he tells Lana. How's that for irony? Clark may have saved Lana in the past, but just go back to Phoenix when Clark told Lana that how he acted in Metropolis is a part of him that he can never escape. If we use continuity, Lana remembers those moments with Clark especially after he broke up with her by lying to her just like he did in season 3. She needs an explanation and Clark's not saying a word. I mean the least he can do is make something up rather than standing there looking like he is lying.

Basically, Lana was uncomfortable around a person who lied to her but always cared for her well-being. And she is comfortable around a guy who tells the truth about his latent powers, when right after he gets those powers, the world goes to disarray.

Any villian can tell the truth. IIRC, Hitler told the "truth" of his future plans in his book, and we all know what happened after that. If the truth is so important to Lana that she is blind to everything else, then I have nothing else to say. Lex messed with very dangerous viruses & beings, and if the aftermath isn't obvious to Lana, then she is beyond help.

[SmallvilleMan]

Because this time I was actully suprised with Lana. On the roof top I thought she'd say something to Lex right away. I thought better of her character, I don't know why I still did but I did.

AE, I'm not at all. Trust me, you know how big I was on Lana. The truth is, once they have her doing drugs and kissing the villian of the story, it's all over!!!! There's nothing they won't make her do, NOTHING!!

[Wildfire]

Originally posted by myankskent
Lana does deserve to be bashed but again, I can't see how she can stand by someone who lies to her. I think the problem is that Lex has become the hero of the show because he tells the truth more these days than Clark. Literally minutes after Lex gets the powers he tells Lana. How's that for irony? Clark may have saved Lana in the past, but just go back to Phoenix when Clark told Lana that how he acted in Metropolis is a part of him that he can never escape. If we use continuity, Lana remembers those moments with Clark especially after he broke up with her by lying to her just like he did in season 3. She needs an explanation and Clark's not saying a word. I mean the least he can do is make something up rather than standing there looking like he is lying.

I dont think Lana needs to stand by Clark when hes lied to her. Thats not what my anger is about, its about moronic shes seemingly gotten. I swear her and Clark need to grow a brain (or have the writers allow them to grow a brain) and quickly before they ruin their lives.

Not sure if you realize this but we are on the possible threshold of a Zexana child. Please stop the stupidity now smallville writers.

[F-Stop Blues]

I've come to the conclusion that Lana cant and wont die because nobody would care. Thats why she didnt stay dead in Reckoning.

[xrayvision]

The drugs wasn't as bad as everything after that. At least with those, it showed her as a very troubled girl. Lately, her actions make her seem remorseless.

[myankskent]

Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
Telling the truth doesn't make you a hero. First off, Lana should know why Clark does it. Does it make what he's doing right? No, but she KNOWS LEX. Lex can tell her the truth all he wants, but what he did in commencement should have sealed the deal. Someone does that to you and you go into a relationship with him? Even Clark in his DARKEST hours never did anything like that. I'll sum up in two reasons why she should have still stayed loyal to clark, besides what lex did in commencement:

1. He's saved her a million times. So obviously he knows what he's talking about when it comes to danger.

2. She's suppose to love him with all her heart.

She quit on him, just like he quit on her.

I don't think Lana knows why Clark lies. If she did, she wouldn't ask for explanations. Lex just saved her life in Fade, or so she thinks. So if you want to go by the amount of times Clark has saved Lana's life and compare it to Lex, then I guess you have a point. But I don't see how Lex's actions in Commencement were that much worse than Clark's in Exile. Clark got in her face at the club and told her off. Lex wanted the stone, but still let Lana go, a vast difference compared to what he did with Chloe. I agree that Lana has now given up on Clark, but I think that is something that she has to do. Clark pushed her away.

[SmallvilleMan]

I've come to the conclusion that Lana cant and wont die because nobody would care. Thats why she didnt stay dead in Reckoning.

Yeah they would have cared in Reckoning. Because there were still plently of clana fans then.

[Kal-El1978]

Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
AE, I'm not at all. Trust me, you know how big I was on Lana. The truth is, once they have her doing drugs and kissing the villian of the story, it's all over!!!! There's nothing they won't make her do, NOTHING!!

I agree completely.

It's not her character that is the problem, its the writing.

Maybe she can hook up with Lionel next.

[xrayvision]

I'm also somewhat pissed at Clark. He should have started giving Zod a beatdown to stop him from unleashing anything like the PZ. Zod has never had powers on Krypton due to the red sun, therefore Clark would have MUCH more experience in using them.

[JasonsLea]

Taking up donations to hire new Smallville writers!

[xrayvision]

Originally posted by myankskent
I don't think Lana knows why Clark lies. If she did, she wouldn't ask for explanations. Lex just saved her life in Fade, or so she thinks. So if you want to go by the amount of times Clark has saved Lana's life and compare it to Lex, then I guess you have a point. But I don't see how Lex's actions in Commencement were that much worse than Clark's in Exile. Clark got in her face at the club and told her off. Lex wanted the stone, but still let Lana go, a vast difference compared to what he did with Chloe. I agree that Lana has now given up on Clark, but I think that is something that she has to do. Clark pushed her away.

I can't compare what Clark did in Exile to what Lex did in Commencement because Clark only got in her face. Lex stalled her with questions regarding the stone rather than immediately flying her out of Smallville before the meteors struck. He risked her life by doing that, and at 1 point (in Mortal) she understood it. She no longer does.

[myankskent]

Originally posted by xrayvision
Basically, Lana was uncomfortable around a person who lied to her but always cared for her well-being. And she is comfortable around a guy who tells the truth about his latent powers, when right after he gets those powers, the world goes to disarray.

Any villian can tell the truth. IIRC, Hitler told the "truth" of his future plans in his book, and we all know what happened after that. If the truth is so important to Lana that she is blind to everything else, then I have nothing else to say. Lex messed with very dangerous viruses & beings, and if the aftermath isn't obvious to Lana, then she is beyond help.

But then again, what has Lex done that is so bad? Did he cause the computers to shut down? Did he cause the chaos? I don't think he did, I think that was Brainiac. I think it is logical for Lana to think that Lex has changed physically but is still the same on the outside. There was no personality change this episode with him. We have yet to see in this string of episodes Lana witness a truly dark Lex moment and continue to stand by him. Lex has just been much softer since hooking up with Lana. That is what is nauseating.

[SmallvilleMan]

I don't think Lana knows why Clark lies. If she did, she wouldn't ask for explanations. Lex just saved her life in Fade, or so she thinks. So if you want to go by the amount of times Clark has saved Lana's life and compare it to Lex, then I guess you have a point. But I don't see how Lex's actions in Commencement were that much worse than Clark's in Exile. Clark got in her face at the club and told her off. Lex wanted the stone, but still let Lana go, a vast difference compared to what he did with Chloe. I agree that Lana has now given up on Clark, but I think that is something that she has to do. Clark pushed her away

Lana knows Clark lies to protect her, she doesn't know exactly why. If she doesn't know Clark lies to protect her, then she is dumbing than a pile of rocks, which may be true right now. You don't see how Lex's actions were worse than Clark's in exile?:eek: Lex almost KILLED Lana. The only reason Lana survived was pure luck. Lex kept Lana at the mansion even though he knew of the meteor shower, because he wanted the stone. He let Lana go EVENTUALLY and because she didn't have the stone. Lana told him so. All Clark told her was she betrayed him, because of calling his parents. And how the hell could lex have saved her life in Fade, unless he's bullet proof? Lana can't be that stupid?

[dhacker615]

Originally posted by xrayvision
I could care less about Chlark. What they did with Lana is outright disgusting. I can't stand her tunnel vision for Lex and how she is ignoring things a 6 year old would be able to catch. All characters have faults, but this is just too much. Well, if being the devil's girlfriend is OK with her, then good for her.

I do feel bad for Kristin. I hope this madness ends soon, otherwise I don't understand how she would like to remain on the show.

Actually, Lana hasn't been that poorly written if this was the direction they were taking her. Stop and think about it:
- Clark trusted Chloe and Pete, but never Lana. Based on "Reckoning" and "Vessel" that was a pretty good instinct.
- Lana has always been totally blind when it comes to the other men in her life (Whitney, Adam, Jason + Lex). The blindness is getting ready to cost her.
- Lana has always been extremely needy. This got to the point that it was annoying and then, in 'Void', dangerous. We saw that again tonight.
- Lana has always become more and more of hypocrite about honesty. Tonight, she hid and listened to conversation between Clark and Chloe, then ran to Lex with its contents. Even then, she demanded Clark tell her the truth about his nature.

I think that those of us who wanted to see Lana's character 'fixed' got our wish, just not in a positive way. She is in a situation that plays to all her worst flaws as a person. I don't feel badly for Kristen at all. The irony is that of the 'Big 3', it turns out that her character was the best written in the final 9 episodes of the season. Who knew?

[Crispin Glover]

Yeah, she was pretty determined to get to the devil. She even used her patented kung fu along the way.

[myankskent]

Originally posted by xrayvision
I can't compare what Clark did in Exile to what Lex did in Commencement because Clark only got in her face. Lex stalled her with questions regarding the stone rather than immediately flying her out of Smallville before the meteors struck. He risked her life by doing that, and at 1 point (in Mortal) she understood it. She no longer does.

I disagree, putting her in danger would be asking her questions while the meteors were falling, like he did with Chloe. He let Lana go immediately. He showed a bad side, but nothing compared to what Chloe had a look at.

[angelfire east]

Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
AE, I'm not at all. Trust me, you know how big I was on Lana. The truth is, once they have her doing drugs and kissing the villian of the story, it's all over!!!! There's nothing they won't make her do, NOTHING!!

It's scary I'm suppose to be the one who isn't suprised and your supose to be shocked. I always knew Lana was self-involved and stupid (dating Lex) but I really didn't think it was to this point. Well to be corrent I didn't think the writters would take it to this point. They've always grossed over the bad things wiht Lana. (like having no one call Lana on being a idoit for dating Lex or not coming to them and turning to drugs).

Of course the writters could be being stupid again (like they did with Clark) and not relize what the character is coming off as.

[myankskent]

Originally posted by dhacker615
Actually, Lana hasn't been that poorly written if this was the direction they were taking her. Stop and think about it:
- Clark trusted Chloe and Pete, but never Lana. Based on "Reckoning" and "Vessel" that was a pretty good instinct.
- Lana has always been totally blind when it comes to the other men in her life (Whitney, Adam, Jason + Lex). The blindness is getting ready to cost her.
- Lana has always been extremely needy. This got to the point that it was annoying and then, in 'Void', dangerous. We saw that again tonight.
- Lana has always become more and more of hypocrite about honesty. Tonight, she hid and listened to conversation between Clark and Chloe, then ran to Lex with its contents. Even then, she demanded Clark tell her the truth about his nature.

I think that those of us who wanted to see Lana's character 'fixed' got our wish, just not in a positive way. She is in a situation that plays to all her worst flaws as a person. I don't feel badly for Kristen at all. The irony is that of the 'Big 3', it turns out that her character was the best written in the final 9 episodes of the season. Who knew?

I'm not going to argue with this whole post, just your very first point, a point that many people continue to make time and time again and I don't understand it. Clark never trusted Chloe and Pete, he never told them the secret. He told Pete because he had to and he never told Chloe. So saying that he trusted Chloe and Pete is not right.

[cotton candy girl]

Originally posted by Batman_Beyonder
I want Lana dead before the end of season 6 whose with me? Sorry kristen i love you, but your selfish character has got ta go.

Let he or she who is without selfishness, cast the first stone.

Oh, where'd they go?

[SmallvilleMan]

It's scary I'm suppose to be the one who isn't suprised and your supose to be shocked. I always knew Lana was self-involved and stupid (dating Lex) but I really didn't think it was to this point. Well to be corrent I didn't think the writters would take it to this point. They've always grossed over the bad things wiht Lana. (like having no one call Lana on being a idoit for dating Lex or not coming to them and turning to drugs).

Yeah, they took away every good quality I liked about her. Which took away the bad ones.


Clark trusted Chloe and Pete, but never Lana. Based on "Reckoning" and "Vessel" that was a pretty good instinct

Lana did nothing wrong in Reckoning and Clark did trust Lana. Clark trusted Lana more than Pete and Chloe, because Clark told Lana straight out about his secret.

[FatedOne]

You know what the PTB are doing right, there trying to make Smallville so bad that we're forced to watch SEA-MAN...I mean Aqua-Duuuude when it comes out.

[xrayvision]

Originally posted by myankskent
I disagree, putting her in danger would be asking her questions while the meteors were falling, like he did with Chloe. He let Lana go immediately. He showed a bad side, but nothing compared to what Chloe had a look at.

I can't agree, since the warning of the meteor shower was given with well enough time for the helicopter to leave and reach its destination without flying through the shower as they came crashing down.

[SmallvilleMan]

I disagree, putting her in danger would be asking her questions while the meteors were falling, like he did with Chloe. He let Lana go immediately. He showed a bad side, but nothing compared to what Chloe had a look at.

He has no reason to keep Lana and he still could have gotten her out of there hours before that.

[xrayvision]

Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
Lana did nothing wrong in Reckoning and Clark did trust Lana. Clark trusted Lana more than Pete and Chloe, because Clark told Lana straight out about his secret.

The thing she did wrong was going to Lex. If she knew his secret and how Lex was trying to get the medical file (he told her in Hidden), then she should have backed off and made a gameplan with Clark before ever encountering Lex. At worst, she could have called Lex rather than visit.

Also, Clark only told her since he knew she was slipping away and towards Lex.

[myankskent]

Originally posted by xrayvision
I can't agree, since the warning of the meteor shower was given with well enough time for the helicopter to leave and reach its destination without flying through the shower as they came crashing down.

Lex didn't delay her departure. He bugged out for about 20 seconds and then she left. Even if he hadn't said anything to her, the helicopter still would've been up in the air with the meteors.

[Wildfire]

Originally posted by cotton candy girl
Let he or she who is without selfishness, cast the first stone. Oh, where'd they go?

See I love her used to love Lana but this eppy made her look moronic and heartless. . but I digress heres what my biggest fear is. . .

We know these writers love have kk making out with every guy there point case tonight Zod. My problem comes in soon in cannon Lana should be getting preggers with Pets kid only no Pet. But there is a Lexod. My deepest fear is with these writers well get a Zexana child (Zod-Lex-Lana) name Clark (becasue he was named that in the comics) Luthod (Mix of luthor and Zod). As much as I hate Lexana this would be barf. But with these writers I am afraid to say I would not put it past them.

[angelfire east]

Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
Lana did nothing wrong in Reckoning and Clark did trust Lana. Clark trusted Lana more than Pete and Chloe, because Clark told Lana straight out about his secret.

I still think he told her more out of jealousy then love and respect.

[SmallvilleMan]

The thing she did wrong was going to Lex. If she knew his secret and how Lex was trying to get the medical file (he told her in Hidden), then she should have backed off and made a gameplan with Clark before ever encountering Lex. At worst, she could have called Lex rather than visit.

Lex was her friend! Lex had no one else and she was going to console him. She had no idea he would try to hurt her like that and go nuts. She was being a good friend, calling someone to console usually isn't the best way. Anyways, that has nothing to do with trust. She was trying to be a good friend as anyone would!


Also, Clark only told her since he knew she was slipping away and towards Lex.

As opposed to telling Pete because Pete found his ship or opposed to telling Chloe because she knew his powers. Hmmmm, I wonder which one shows more trust? Clark had a choice to tell Lana, he had NO CHOICE to tell chloe or pete.

[Admiral_N8]

Lana is the most selfish and emotionally unstable person I have ever seen on TV. Whats her problem? She is such a needy person, right after one boyfriend that she "loves" she goes to a new boyfriend...telling the other "I dont know how I could ever love you"

Terrible writing.

[SmallvilleMan]

I still think he told her more out of jealousy then love and respect.

Even if you do, you have still can't take away the fact he told her straight out. He didn't have to tell her and he never told anyone before. If he didn't love her, he wouldn't have told her, period IMO.

[xrayvision]

Clark didn't tell Chloe. Plus, he felt he had to tell Lana after seeing her so close to Lex in the hospital. He loved her and didn't want her to get hurt by Lex, while at the same time wanted to be with her. But by changing the events and not telling her, he kept her in the dark like everyone else. So it doesn't really matter what happened in the 1st half. It's now irrelevant.

[SmallvilleMan]

Clark didn't tell Chloe. Plus, he felt he had to tell Lana after seeing her so close to Lex in the hospital. He loved her and didn't want her to get hurt by Lex, while at the same time wanted to be with her. But by changing the events and not telling her, he kept her in the dark like everyone else. So it doesn't really matter what happened in the 1st half. It's now irrelevant

It isn't irrvelevant at all.

[angelfire east]

Originally posted by cotton candy girl
Let he or she who is without selfishness, cast the first stone.

Oh, where'd they go?

No one is without selfishness but Lana in this episode was beyond normal everyday selfiness.

[myankskent]

Yeah, Clark told Lana in Reckoning because he saw that Lana was close with Lex, yet in Reckoning, he seemed to forget to tell Lana the truth about Lex. I guess in Clark's head, telling Lana the truth about himself has subliminal messages that are supposed to give Lana the warning about Lex. I still can't figure that one out.

[Ephrils]

Aside from her own Freak of the Week stalker type people Lana has been kept in the dark with virtually all things dealing with the meteor shower.

Probably one of her motivations for getting involved withthe black ship and Lex. The girl wanted answers. Noone would tell her anything. So she found aw ay to get some answers herself.

[mr lane]

when lex told lana about his new found powers he told her he was given a gift

i thought it stupid that instead of asking lex to use his new "gift" to help the city she talks about their relationship

the hell is going on!? lol

[myankskent]

Originally posted by mr lane
when lex told lana about his new found powers he told her he was given a gift

i thought it stupid that instead of asking lex to use his new "gift" to help the city she talks about their relationship

the hell is going on!? lol

Well there is a To Be Continued at the end of this episode. My guess is that the premier might start off with them still on the roof so perhaps that will be addressed. Let's keep in mind that we are assuming things will pick up right from where they left off in the finale.

[angelfire east]

Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
Even if you do, you have still can't take away the fact he told her straight out. He didn't have to tell her and he never told anyone before. If he didn't love her, he wouldn't have told her, period IMO.

It does take any from the fact he told her in my eyes becuase he did it for the wrong reasons.

Clark has always told people his secret becuase he felt he had too, Pete saw the ship, Lex saw him use his powes, so did Alicia, Chloe saw the FoS and his powers, he was jealous and felt like he was losing Lana.

He's never truely told anyone because he loved them, trusted them and repected them enough to know the turth. He's never looked at another character and gone "I love this person, I want to share every part of me with this person so we can be closer. I want to take this relaionship to another level"

After Rackoning Clark could have told Lana he had secret and he wasn't ready to tell her and might never be and given her the choice of being with him like that rather then lie to her and hurt her. Also he could have told her that Lex is bad and into really bad thigns but he couldn't give her details becuase he's not ready to open up about his secret and asked her to trust him.

[myankskent]

Originally posted by angelfire east
It does take any from the fact he told her in my eyes becuase he did it for the wrong reasons.

Clark has always told people hsi secret becuase he felt he had too, pete saw the ship, lex saw him use his powes, so did Alicia Chloe saw the FoS and his powers, he jealous and feel like he was losing Lana.

He's never turnly told anyone because he loved them, trusted them and repected them enough to know the turth. He's never looked at another character and gone "I love this person, I want to share every part of me with this person so we can be closer. I want to take this relaionship to another level"

After Rackoning Clark could have told Lana he had secret and he wasn't ready to tell her and might never be and given her the choice of being with him like that rather then lie to her and hurt her. Also he could have told her that Lex is bad and into really bad thigns but he couldn't give her details becuase he's not ready to open up about his secret and asked her to trust him.

I hate to disagree with you here, but are you telling me that Clark didn't tell Lana because he loved her? Who gives an engagement ring to a girl after you tell them the secret and not say that you told them because you love them?

[SmallvilleMan]

After Rackoning Clark could have told Lana he had secret and he wasn't ready to tell her and might never be and given her the choice of being with him like that rather then lie to her and hurt her. Also he could have told her that Lex is bad and into really bad thigns but he couldn't give her details becuase he's not ready to open up about his secret and asked her to trust him.

He's too busy feeling guilty to do that. That's Clark does, feel guilty and surpress the guilt inside of him.

Secondly, if Clark didn't love her, he wouldn't have told her. Why?

1. Clark has never told anyone before, he wouldn't tell someone just to keep a relationship that he didn't want to last.

2 He was prepared to marry her.

[xrayvision]

Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
It isn't irrvelevant at all.

Well, if Clark never found out about Lex & Lana researching the ship even though they were doing it or if Lana never got involved with Lex at all with the ship, do you really think he would have told her and proposed to her after years of not telling her? I don't think so. I think if he would ever told her without any pressure, it would have been when he lost his powers in Mortal. After that, it was just not going to happen.

[angelfire east]

Originally posted by mr lane
i thought it stupid that instead of asking lex to use his new "gift" to help the city she talks about their relationship

Agreed

[xrayvision]

Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
2 He was prepared to marry her.

Prepared? It was a spur of the moment thing. If it was prepared, it would have all been planned out (I'm sure he would have told Chloe or we would have seen him making initial arrangements or asking his parents about advice).

[myankskent]

Originally posted by xrayvision
Prepared? It was a spur of the moment thing. If it was prepared, it would have all been planned out (I'm sure he would have told Chloe or we would have seen him making initial arrangements or asking his parents about advice).

It evidently wasn't planned out because he never said a word about Lex in Reckoning after he knew that Lana was close with him. I'm just going to keep bringing this up because it makes no sense to me that Clark would tell Lana because she was close to Lex and then not give Lana the appropriate warning about him.

[angelfire east]

Originally posted by myankskent
I hate to disagree with you here, but are you telling me that Clark didn't tell Lana because he loved her? Who gives an engagement ring to a girl after you tell them the secret and not say that you told them because you love them?

I'm not saying he didn't love her I'm just saying he didn't tell her purely out of love and has never told a person purely out of love.

[xrayvision]

Originally posted by angelfire east
I'm not saying he didn't love her I'm just saying he didn't tell her purely out of love and has never told a person purely out of love.

I agree. Had the circumstances not been what they were, I don't honestly see how anyone would think he would have told her.

[angelfire east]

Originally posted by myankskent
It evidently wasn't planned out because he never said a word about Lex in Reckoning after he knew that Lana was close with him. I'm just going to keep bringing this up because it makes no sense to me that Clark would tell Lana because she was close to Lex and then not give Lana the appropriate warning about him.

Because Clark is stupid and he doesn't think "Well Lex is still her firend with or wihtout knowing my secret and I actully have to tell her the whole truth becuase that changes." rolleyes:

Also Clark proberly thought he'd have more time, that Lana won't need to go to Lex now she knows the truth. Still he should have told her everything!

[mag]

I think a lot of the people who bash Lana are disillusioned Chlark fans, but that's just my theory.

As far as I am concerned, you are wrong. I don't care about Clark and Chloe. Honestly.

But still, I think Lana, in this episode, just proved how right I was to hate this girl. Yep, this is all a test for her devotion and she wants to talk about her relationship while the world is in chaos !

[angelfire east]

Originally posted by xrayvision
I agree. Had the circumstances not been what they were, I don't honestly see how anyone would think he would have told her.

I agree.

About the whole "a lot of the people who bash Lana are disillusioned Chlark fans" thing, I'm not a chlark fan, more of a anit-chlark. I don't really ship anythign but clois, and I don't want clois to happen on the show.

I'm just a viewer sick of everything that's been happening on SV.

[bobser]

Good post angelfire.

I've actually heard Lana referred to as "Stormcloud" over the last few seasons, as she's always moping over relationships in light of more important situations. They are giving her too much of a negative feel, imo, in making her dwell too much on things. It's like they are writing her as Eeyore from Winnie the Pooh.

[SmallvilleMan]

Also Clark proberly thought he'd have more time, that Lana won't need to go to Lex now she knows the truth. Still he should have told her everything!

He didn't want to mess anything up, which is why he didn't tell her before.

[Dangerous George]

well said Smallville Man

it's over except for the shoutings