View Full Version : Who Do YOU Think Clark Should End Up With?
Kryptonian_unforgiven
05-10-2006, 01:40 PM
Hey guys.The season finale is upon on us & there's a good chance that next season will be the last season,so i figured i'd get your opinion on this before then.When it comes to who Clark ends up with,who do YOU think it should be? Yes,i know that he'll probably end up with Lois,but not everything from the Superman mythos has been followed to the letter,right?Even though i think it was stated that of course he'll end up with her,i don't see it happening unless they really kick it up a notch between the two of them next season.They've tried to put a rush on it with the last two episodes with Clark telling Lois something along the lines of"We're so close,i feel like i can tell you anything." Come on! they can't just go from making shots at eachother all season to suddenly having it seem as though they're of the Clark & Chloe status. As someone previously posted,we're not gullible enough to fall for it when we watch every episode,you can't just sneak that in & not expect us to remark.
It takes time to develop something like that,a good example being Clark & Lana.That took time,and even though it didin't work out,they had built a strong bond between the two of them that had gotten stronger as the seasons went on.They made a nice couple & i must admit that i was sort of rooting for them after everything that has happened,but it was not meant to be.
Then we have Chloe,the go-to girl,at least in Clarks eyes.They might have had something going if not for Clarks maddening affixation with everything that is Lana.She is smart,pretty, deeply cared for Clark & remained his friend even after the quick love triangle she was in with Lana over Clark.Her affection & loyalty to Clark shone though as she bowed out to Lana & still remained Clarks friend.This was also proven when she found out Clarks secret but instead of confronting him she decided to let him tell her in his own time.This shows how great a friend Chloe really is.Clark doesn't know how lucky he is to have her in his life.
Finally,my favourite girl & my pick for who he should have ended up with,Alicia.When they tried to make it work as a couple they were really great together,since they shared no secrets between them & this being the first girl that Clark let in on his secret,intentionally or not.I was really pissed when they killed her off,i mean,couldn't they have at least had her to a temporary so long to Smallville?That was a low blow,& i expected better from the writers on that one.Alicia may have been responsible for Chloe finding out about Clark,tricking him into marrying her(Alicia) with Red K & trying to kill Lana(i think) but she really did care about him through it all & him for her.
Well,thats my rant for today,i can't wait to see the results & enjoy the finale.I know i will.
FallenStar
05-10-2006, 01:47 PM
Not Lana. . .:lol:
Uhh I voted Lois cuz I love Clois, but I think Chlark is more likely considering the alleged "chlark" kiss in the clip that I have yet to see. But Chlark would make me sad, cuz it's likely that Chloe bites the dust if they start dating. How would you explain it otherwise (besides Chlois, which would mean that Lois dies :( ) that they dont end up together???
Donnie Brasco
05-10-2006, 01:59 PM
Lois for the 20 billionth time :)
Ketchup
05-10-2006, 02:13 PM
Chloe!
Iowa_Gent
05-10-2006, 02:50 PM
Lois it is time to start their relationship. They been building up to it slowly but time to let them be involved.
Pal-El
05-10-2006, 03:26 PM
Chloe, if anyone at all. Its too early to start with Clois, and Allison Mack and Tom Welling have more on screen chemistry than any of the others.;)
Donnie Brasco
05-10-2006, 03:30 PM
I disagree. Sure they have chemistry. Chloe with the wisecracks and computer skills , that doesn't seem forced at all. I think Clark and Lois have the best chemistry. I have always enjoyed their banter.
Ofcourse we are all entitled to our own opinion. I'm sure many of you will disagree :)
Pal-El
05-10-2006, 03:32 PM
Originally posted by Donnie Brasco
I disagree. Sure they have chemistry. Chloe with the wisecracks and computer skills , that doesn't seem forced at all. I think Clark and Lois have the best chemistry. I have always enjoyed their banter.
Ofcourse we are all entitled to our own opinion. I'm sure many of you will disagree :)
Im not too keen on the super hacker chloe weve seen in recent episodes, but the chemistry aspect is there for me.;)
SteveS
05-10-2006, 03:33 PM
I went with Chloe and though I have missed the last two episodes, I doubt that the personality of Lois has changed and that personality would be a curse to live with for anything longer than maybe 15 minutes.
Chloe on the other hand, is the kind of girl that ClarkMan should grow into appreciating her for her inner character. And her outer form ain't that bad either.
Donnie Brasco
05-10-2006, 03:36 PM
Originally posted by SteveS
I went with Chloe and though I have missed the last two episodes, I doubt that the personality of Lois has changed and that personality would be a curse to live with for anything longer than maybe 15 minutes.
Chloe on the other hand, is the kind of girl that ClarkMan should grow into appreciating her for her inner character. And her outer form ain't that bad either.
You would be surprised how many guys would go for someone with the personality of Lois .
I'd have Lois over Chloe anyday
Carry on.
FallenStar
05-10-2006, 03:37 PM
OK, I love Chloe as much as the next person, and think that the girl needs some love, but we all know that Chlark will end badly. . . I don't want Chloe to suffer MORE (and she seems to be getting over Clark) if they break up, or if she dies.
Might as well start Clois now. . .
anything to stop the onslaught of anvils :lol:
Donnie Brasco
05-10-2006, 03:38 PM
Thats exactly why Chlark won't work. Chloe will suffer again in the end.
Pal-El
05-10-2006, 03:46 PM
Unless she dies....
Ok she may suffer a bit if she dies...
But Im with SteveS.
Lois is not my type lol
TomWellingLover122
05-10-2006, 03:57 PM
Chloe, if anyone at all. Its too early to start with Clois, and Allison Mack and Tom Welling have more on screen chemistry than any of the others.
I agree with Pal-lel.........
photogirl
05-10-2006, 04:24 PM
CHLOE!! CHLOE!! CHLOE!!! If TPTB don't give us Chlark for at least ten episodes I will be so dissapointed...yeah, sorry, Chlark gets me carried away!!
FallenStar
05-10-2006, 05:19 PM
It's ok, photogirl. . .deep, even breaths :lol:
uhh I doubt we'll get 10 chlark eppys. We barely got 10 dating Clana eppys (and I ain't complaining :D) so I doubt that Chlark will be given as much focus. . .
Krypton935
05-10-2006, 05:34 PM
CHLOE!!!!! I am all for Chlark that would be so perfect they are like made for each other! LONG LIVE THE CHLARK!!!!!!!!!
Donnie Brasco
05-10-2006, 05:34 PM
Hell will freeze over first .
photogirl
05-10-2006, 05:36 PM
^^^^ *let's out long sorrowful cries, because everyone that says Chlark won't happen is probably right*
I am going to be sad if we don't even get our annual Chlark kiss! It's tradition; tradition should never be forsaken!!
smallvillecrazygurl04
05-10-2006, 05:53 PM
well I was going to chose chloe, but then I changed my mind! I voted for Lois because she and clark are so cute together and plus they will probably end up together anyway:)
Hurricain
05-10-2006, 08:16 PM
Well, generally I'm all about Lois and Clark but...I can't stand smallville's version of Lois, nor do I care for ED. No chemistry there for me.
Chloe however, seems way more like how lois should be and I can't forget about the 5 seasons she has been like that, even if the writers push a Clois more next season.
So I voted all for Chloe.
Slytherin Princess
05-10-2006, 08:21 PM
Lois, duh!
Liriel
05-10-2006, 08:33 PM
Chloe, but with Chlois.
RedPhoenix23
05-10-2006, 09:43 PM
Lois....uh, anvils aplenty support that. Sorry Chloe = Lois lovers. :p
Liriel
05-10-2006, 09:51 PM
I know there are Lois anvils. I'm not debating, just clarifying my preference for Clark's ship (because I do not want Chlark without Chlois - it spells doom for Chloe and makes Clois look even worse). Any debate can go to the other thread.
Please don't tell me what will or will not happen - the poll asks about "should" not "will," and, of course, is a matter of opinion.
FTR, I'm a Chlois-supporter, not a Chlois-believer. I fully expect a lightswitch.
dhacker615
05-10-2006, 10:04 PM
Originally posted by FallenStar
I doubt we'll get 10 chlark eppys. We barely got 10 dating Clana eppys (and I ain't complaining :D) so I doubt that Chlark will be given as much focus. . .
The brevity of the two periods when Clark and Lana were a full-blown couple was actually a big mistake IMO. Had TPTB left them as a semi-happy couple for 10-12 episodes in Season 3 it would've been more of a shock when they broke up. More to the point, it would've been 10-12 fewer episodes of Lana complaining about Secrets & Lies. I think that everyone would be grateful for that.
Here's what I think: the show just works better when Clark has a love interest. I don't know why, but it just does. I was all for them giving Lana & Clark another go at it. It was in general a bit better the second time around, since TPTB let the relationship develop for a while.
That said, it is over. The events of 'Reckoning' and 'Hypnotic' ended it. I wish they could have found a better way to resolve it, but those are the writers that the show has. I am not ready to stop watching, but those two episodes brought me closer to it than I thought was possible. However they did it, the Clana is in the past. It should stay there.
I get the sentiment for Lois. TW and ED have pretty great chemsitry. You believe that they annoy each other, but that they are covering up an attratction. It works on that level. The problem is this: it would probably take two years to set up properly. It took two years to set-up Lana & Clark. "Lois & Clark" took two years to set-up their main couple. TPTB have really done none of the ground work. This season was all about Lana for Clark. Last season was all about football. I really don't think this show has much more than another season, or two, in it. That is short of hitting the 'refresh' button, moving a lot the action to Metropolis, brining back Michael McKean as a regular in the role of Perry White and, say, Seth Green as Jimmy Olsen.
A lot of the dynamics are a bit played out.
Maybe they could rush the Clois along, but it would feel rushed. I think that would alienate more people than it would please, quite frankly. After five years of Clark fixated on Lana, it would seem odd if he suddenly jumped to the Love of his Life. So, Lois is out as the S6 love interest IMO.
Alicia would have been fun and very different, but she is dead. TW had a better chemistry with Sarah Carter than anyone on the show, so it seems like a shame. Maybe they'll make a horror movie together.
That really leaves two options: Chloe or a new character. To me, Chloe is a pretty good choice. For one thing, she already knows his secret. No long talks about secrets and lies. For another, it would keep her involved without having to be such a Mary Sue. Finally, it would give her a chance to talk about herself for once. Chloe is always listening to everyone else. Unless the show decides to totally ignore the comics, Chloe is not a member of the Daily Planet cast. Ummmm ... that is a huge deal, given what we know about her. If she decides to something else with her life, it would be nice if they set it up more than five minutes ahead of time.
Therefore, my vote is Chloe. We are going to get plenty of Lois & Clark this summer anyway.
overman504
05-11-2006, 12:21 AM
The great love story that is Romeo and Juliet or MaryJane and Peter Parker is all but too familiar when it comes to Clark Kent and Louis Lane. In the end, we are given reassurance that the two end up with each other. That is why I vote Chloe. Allison Mack plays her so well and yes, it would break the mold. But I think the reason why people so much want for clark and chloe to happen deals alot with relatablity. Give the people what they want (Love). My one and only plea for chlark.
amberdawn
05-11-2006, 12:56 AM
Lois is and always will be my choice.
Slytherin Princess
05-11-2006, 01:46 AM
it's been Lois and it will always be Lois.
Krypton935
05-11-2006, 04:57 AM
Chloe that is for sure. It is way too early for Clois. we all know it will happen but let us have some Chlark first!!!
SnarkMasterJ
05-11-2006, 06:49 AM
Chloe. I have no canonical reasons to believe that Clark should and will end up with anyone else. There's just no back up for it.
BadToad
05-11-2006, 08:09 AM
I'm firmly in the ABLA camp (AnyoneButLana), and I consider myself open to all other possibilities. But if asked who I think the right woman for Clark is, right now in this story, in this SV universe, I have to go with Chloe.
DorkMatter
05-11-2006, 08:40 AM
Chloe--the real Lois and the real Lana, all in one impossibly cute package! Why compromise? :D
Sweetie
05-11-2006, 08:48 AM
I think Clark should with Chloé in Smallville anyway.I'm effraid that if Clark & Lois become a couple,Lois will be suspicious of Clark for not knowing the secret and it will be Clana all over again...It's not Clois time yet...
Or may be,Diana Prince(wonder woman) could become a subtitute teacher at the college to investigate on Lex Luthor and Clark would have a crush on her.In case,Chloé has another love interest next season than Clark.
superhippie2000
05-11-2006, 10:37 AM
clark should wind up with shelby.
Silent Kal
05-11-2006, 12:23 PM
Clark *should* end up with Chloe (more "Lois" than the muffin-peddler ever dared to be!)
Clark *will* end up with Nois.
but I'm still holding out hope. ChLois-ers, never say die!
Slytherin Princess
05-11-2006, 01:34 PM
this is a "Who Do YOU Think Clark Should End Up With?" thread not a Chlois thread. please stay on topic people. :D
ClLaLeChFAN01
05-11-2006, 01:49 PM
Well...I voted for Chole only because it is way too soon for Lois and I cant take anymore of Clana. :P I do believe 5 years of it is enough in my opinion. But if Chole and Clark just stay friend I will be happy with that. I think I rather have them just be friends.
Chloe fan1988
05-11-2006, 02:10 PM
Originally posted by Donnie Brasco
I disagree. Sure they have chemistry. Chloe with the wisecracks and computer skills , that doesn't seem forced at all. I think Clark and Lois have the best chemistry. I have always enjoyed their banter.
Ofcourse we are all entitled to our own opinion. I'm sure many of you will disagree :)
Ha! Lois is the one who can't make it through one episode without making the silly wisecracks. That's the only thing the character has going for it on Smallville. Develop Lois or get her the heck out of there, I say.
Donnie Brasco
05-11-2006, 02:17 PM
Yeah its natural when Lois makes her wisecracks. I'm used to it. She has always been that way in smallville. Nothing seems forced
I just hate the way every week same routine in the daily planet. Chloe solves a mystery, no computer is unhackable. Its bs imo.
Clois all the way :p
Tom's Chick
05-11-2006, 08:09 PM
Chloe
LastingChlarker
05-11-2006, 08:11 PM
If it was up to me, it'd be Chloe.
RamonaE
05-11-2006, 08:24 PM
In the comics Lois never met Clark until he was in Metropolis working for the Planet.
Lois never came to Smallville. Clark should not get involved with her until Smallville ends. Then Clark should start his destiny with Lois.
muffinpeddler
05-11-2006, 08:34 PM
I'd love for it to be Chloe, but Clark and Lois has been written in the sky since 1938.
WangTang
05-11-2006, 08:38 PM
Lois Lane, Superman always ends up with her in some form another. especially with superman returns comeing out, it will only be more solid to everyone else.
8SMALLFAN8
05-11-2006, 08:42 PM
Chloe....and as much as I know the whole Lois and Clark mythology and destiny, Smallville hasn't exactly kept with the entire storyline...perhaps a change? Or the never ending quetion of: Is Chloe....Lois?
That would explain everything.. I do hope there's Chlark in the next season though...
Skywalker
05-11-2006, 08:48 PM
Originally posted by Slytherin Princess
it's been Lois and it will always be Lois.
Word.
Happy Random
05-11-2006, 08:51 PM
Lois. Duh :p :D
Ketchup
05-11-2006, 08:53 PM
I went with Chloe, because her and Clark have the best chemistry. Lois on the other hand has the most annoying personality of any character on any show on all of cable. Now, some guys might find her personality attractive, but Clark and her? Are you kidding me? Not until she grows up from that rebelious teenager she still is. She's so immature.
RamonaE
05-11-2006, 08:56 PM
Originally posted by WangTang
Lois Lane, Superman always ends up with her in some form another. especially with superman returns comeing out, it will only be more solid to everyone else.
From the previews I'm not so sure it's going to be all that good. I'm hoping for the best but I'm a little scared about the film not being good or doing well at the box office.
The 1st preview with Marlon Brando's voiceover was awesome but I saw a 2nd preview that depicted Lois Lane as a single mom? And lastly....Brandon Routh (the new superman) is NO TOM WELLING!
Hence, my fear that the movie actually won't affect our little Smallville realm.
http://www.apple.com/trailers/wb/supermanreturns/trailer2/
PaulNeb
05-11-2006, 10:23 PM
I voted for Chloe.
Lana and Clark. Yawn. Too many lies. Too much baggage. Time to move on.
Lois and Clark. Mythos aside, there is chemistry and real potential for a relationship there, BUT Smallville's Lois isn't the Lois of the comics. That person is Chloe and I've been racking my brain for months trying to figure out how TPTB are going to solve that dilemma. Of course, this is Smallville. Wierd things happen all the time.
Alicia and Clark. The big attraction for Clark was that he didn't have to hide who he was from her. Who's got that position right now?
Chloe and Clark. Chloe's been very, VERY cool about her feelings for Clark. She's grown into a confidant and close friend. Does than equal romance? No, but she did let Clark know how she felt in the most direct way possible. Will he reciprocate? He did kiss her back, but that's a long way from a relationship.
A lot of how this develops is going to depend on how much the PZ messes with Clark's head.
As for sticking to the Mythos, remember:
In the comics, Lana's a redhead, Lois is a brunette and ace reporter for the Daily Planet, and Chloe doesn't even exist. Also, Clark could fly before he left Smallville.
In Smallville, Lana's a brunette, Lois is a blond, and Chloe is the ace reporter for the Daily Planet. To top it off, Clark is afraid of heights, never mind flying.
I think TPTB will take their own path, and hopefully Chloe will be the one that catches Clark.
TalkinMac
05-11-2006, 10:25 PM
Well the most logical female is Chloe because it is too soon for Lois but who knows I just dont want to see a romantic Lois and Clark.
Or maybe he wont have anyone or someone new.
Zungas
05-11-2006, 10:32 PM
ALICIA
SmallvilleMan
05-11-2006, 11:20 PM
Chloe and Lois look too much like sisters to Clark to me. I would have said Lana up until reckoning, but not anymore. They should bring someone else in.
destiny calls
05-11-2006, 11:24 PM
Chloe is the girl Clark has been searching for. They complete each other.
SmallvilleMan
05-11-2006, 11:30 PM
I don't think Chloe is. Not when he hasn't felt something, i mean anything for her in five years together. But she does know his secret and Lana couldn't compete there, so.....
charmedchick
05-11-2006, 11:47 PM
I see a bright future with chloe ahead :D That would be the greatest ever.
Chiriru
05-11-2006, 11:49 PM
Definately Chloe to me. The kiss confirmed for me that they are Chloising (Superman Horns AND the DP logo) and yeah. I think this season made it really clear whom his equal and Girl Friday is. :)
khufu
05-12-2006, 12:01 AM
My biggest problem with Clois is that their relationship seems too... childish. I can't really put my finger on it, it just reminds me of the 3rd grade, when you tease the person you like because... well, you have absolutely no idea how to express your feelings. Lois is a grown woman - and she flirts like a grown woman with other guys, so if she likes Clark then she should just aproach it on that level. But as it is right now, it just seems childish between them. Only very recently have they actually had a few mature conversations.
CK&CK
05-12-2006, 12:23 AM
Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
I don't think Chloe is. Not when he hasn't felt something, i mean anything for her in five years together. But she does know his secret and Lana couldn't compete there, so.....
Well, a lot of people see that he has, and a lot of people say he's never shown anything.......but then again.....here's what I see:
1. Elevator in "Bound"
2. Kiss in "Magnetic"
3. Clark in "Crush" (I think)....says to Lana "Like we could be more than friends"......and then at the in the Talon (same episode) when he reaches for her hand as if he's little kid. He even admits to Lex that he thinks he may have feelings for Chloe to. And please....no debate based on Clark only "thinking" he has feelings for Chloe......that would be a weak argument....at least to me.
4. "Obscura" when he's asking Chloe to the dance.....and his being nervous about asking a friend out....it does not apply........Because he sure seemed pretty happy when Chloe said yes. I'm sure there are a few others.....but I'm too Lazy to try to find them.
Now, I'll be the first to agree that his feelings for Lana were deeper....and probably still slightly are (he's had years of letting those feelings deepen).....but definitely not as much as before. Just as in life.....Things change.....otherwise.....Lois would have no destiny at all. I'm not saying he'll end up with Chloe in the end (although....I could live with that)......I just hope us Chlarker's get what you guys got.......minus the bad ending of course (meaning that they part in a good way.....or fate has them parting beyond their control). I guess we will just have to wait to find out.
On the plus side.....Lana didn't annoy me in tonight's episode....she was actually pretty entertaining. Someone had mentioned that there was too much Lana in the first half.....but I found it to be quite interesting in the context of the story.
Naman is 1#
05-12-2006, 12:26 AM
Ya'll need to get over it hes not going to end up with Chole, its Lois all the wayyyyyyyy ! ! ! ! ! !
Raul Rigel
05-12-2006, 12:30 AM
I hate Lana, anyone but her. Forthe longest time I been watching this show, and everyone including me hates her, and I find myself yelling at the screen more and more everytime she doesn something stupid or annoying. I don't even see why people find her attractive she looks like a rat to me :confused:
Lois is a godess but Chloe is cute too. Either one would make me happy.
wildcat
05-12-2006, 12:36 AM
Raul Rigel, saying she looks like a rat is uncalled for. I can understand hating a CHARACTER, but its crossing the line when you call a person out like that.
Perassolo
05-12-2006, 12:37 AM
I could think that cloe might die and since Lois is Cloes' cousin
This will bring Lois and Clark closer togehter and eventually have an emotional intimate relationship
Raul Rigel
05-12-2006, 12:39 AM
Originally posted by wildcat
Raul Rigel, saying she looks like a rat is uncalled for. I can understand hating a CHARACTER, but its crossing the line when you call a person out like that.
Lmao why?
Plz don't tell me you love Lana that much that it offends you I find her ugly lol
She really does remind me of a rat. And it's funny cuz I usualy go for the girls with darker features and hair and stuff like that. But I just can't stand her. Maybe it's her character thats made me dislike her so much.
Originally posted by Perassolo
I could think that cloe might die and since Lois is Cloes' cousin
This will bring Lois and Clark closer togehter and eventually have an emotional intimate relationship
Poor Chloe always ends up the worst lmao Always alone and always everyone speculating her death. I'd rather have Lana dead then cute little Chloe :(
Perassolo
05-12-2006, 12:40 AM
Death to Lana! Muahahahaha
But Lana is a B@$%$#
Raul Rigel
05-12-2006, 12:42 AM
nooooo don't she's just a poor girl nobody loves herrrrrr
*bites Queen*
wildcat
05-12-2006, 12:48 AM
Originally posted by Raul Rigel
Lmao why?
Plz don't tell me you love Lana that much that it offends you I find her ugly lol
Ummm, no. This has nothing to do with my feelings about ANY of the characters. The thing is, I realize that Lana is a fictional character who is PLAYED BY A REAL PERSON. And I find it offensive that you're calling her names. Especially about her physical features which she cannot help having.
Perassolo
05-12-2006, 12:48 AM
My superman adventure story could go like this. I think that Clark should end up with Cloe becuase in the new movie Superman Returns which i have not yet seen until June 30th 2006 ...is that Superman (Clark) so they say has been away from Earth for several years and Well Lois has moved on with her life. Hence Clark should dump the broad and Hitch it with Cloe!!!! Yeah Baby Yeah. Oh Behave!
Any thoughts...
Raul Rigel
05-12-2006, 12:50 AM
Originally posted by wildcat
Ummm, no. This has nothing to do with my feelings about ANY of the characters. The thing is, I realize that Lana is a fictional character who is PLAYED BY A REAL PERSON. And I find it offensive that you're calling her names. Especially about her physical features which she cannot help having.
You serious?
So it bothers you if someone insults some random actor or musician, or anyone for that matter?
How do you live!? lol
You must be getting angry at every person you know like 24-7 cuz everyone throws little insults at SOMETHING.
wildcat
05-12-2006, 01:01 AM
I live just fine, thankyou.
I don't generally get angry "throwing little insults" except when they're about another's physical appearence or some other thing that they can't control. Especially when they're not there to defend themselves.
But if you wanna rip on KK's acting abilities, be my guest and express your opinion. I couldn't care less.
And I'm done.
Raul Rigel
05-12-2006, 01:03 AM
Originally posted by wildcat
I live just fine, thankyou.
I don't generally get angry "throwing little insults" except when they're about another's physical appearence or some other thing that they can't control. Especially when they're not there to defend themselves.
But if you wanna rip on KK's acting abilities, be my guest and express your opinion. I couldn't care less.
lol i don't think shes that bad of an actress at all her face just reminds me of a rat
but if that somehow offended you my bad, that wasn't what i meant to do :D
cloisfan4life
05-12-2006, 01:09 AM
I think the right move will be chloe or someone else..even though i LOVE clois.
the kiss between chloe and clark was a goodbye kiss...there was definitely pent up feelings for chloe, but for clark i think he was taken by surprise..his face was like what just happened..we need to talk..cuz remember clark is oblivious to chloe's love for him.
I think in season 6 they will dabble in chlark, but realize that its nothing more than a great friendship he loves chloe, but not the way that she does...chloe of course will heartbroken and clark will move on and become the man or start being the man he's destined to be...maybe even meet a new girl.
As for clois, i see more of a deeper understanding and friendship..just recently they started having mature conversation and they are quite comfortable with each other. I see more of a budding friendship and possibly seeing each other in different light , maybe even liking each other, but both are oblivious to it at the end of season 6. Then Clark, Chloe, Lois, and etc. go their separate ways. Which leads into the past superman movies where its been years and the reunion of lois and clark.
Raul Rigel
05-12-2006, 01:11 AM
since when is clark oblivious to choles love?
Shes told him before and he told her he didnt feel the same? they had a whole big thing out of it lol
Prospero
05-12-2006, 01:16 AM
Chloe, of course.
Lana must die. I wish there was a riot of horses in Smallville. They could all run after her...
cloisfan4life
05-12-2006, 01:20 AM
let me rephrase it..he wasn't really sensitive to chloe's feeling when he said in fade its hard to see someone who you love kiss someone else..
chloe's face was just hurt and broken..after all those years she's been loving him she has to watch someone who SHE LOVES kiss lana..so for clark to say something like that..i'd say at that moment he was a little oblivious to chloe's feelings. Also all those times they could've been together Clark just pushes her away because he was "in love" with lana.
MamaK
05-12-2006, 04:45 AM
Originally posted by FallenStar
OK, I love Chloe as much as the next person, and think that the girl needs some love, but we all know that Chlark will end badly. . . I don't want Chloe to suffer MORE (and she seems to be getting over Clark) if they break up, or if she dies.
Might as well start Clois now. . .
anything to stop the onslaught of anvils :lol:
Couldn't agree with this^^^^more! Unfortunately, they've chosen to prolong Chloe's agony, eventhough we all know Clark Kent/Superman ends up with Lois in the end!!!:(:(:(
cloisfan4life
05-12-2006, 04:50 AM
i don't want to rush clois though..they are starting to actually make progress on building a friendship..i want to see it grow in season 6. Like I said before whenever the last season of smallville will be..that's when Lois and Clark will see each other in another light, but not now. Clark is no where near being superman and Lois still needs to settle down and become more serious.
PaulNeb
05-12-2006, 05:43 AM
Originally posted by Perassolo
My superman adventure story could go like this. I think that Clark should end up with Cloe becuase in the new movie Superman Returns which i have not yet seen until June 30th 2006 ...is that Superman (Clark) so they say has been away from Earth for several years and Well Lois has moved on with her life. Hence Clark should dump the broad and Hitch it with Cloe!!!! Yeah Baby Yeah. Oh Behave!
Any thoughts...
A thought I has while I was falling alseep last night. As long as I can remember, the mythos relationship was between Lois and SUPERMAN, not Clark. In fact, until the time of the second Superman movie, I don't think Lois had a clue that they were the same person. The series Lois and Clark rewrote that and now, just about everyone that works with Clark (Lois, Jimmy, Perry) knows that he's Superman.
Add that to the fact that on Smallville the relationship between Clark and Superman is reversed from the comic's, (Superman will be Clark's "secret identity.") and you can put Chloe and Clark together very easily.
As for rewriting mythos, I would like to point out that in the comics, Peter Parker didn't even MEET Mary Jane Watson until they were teenagers, while in the movie, he had a crush on her since she moved in when he was just a little boy.
The fly in the ointment was the introduction (on camera) of Lois. Now you are presented with a really nasty triangle, ("He's MY boyfriend, cuz!" - No idea who get's that line.) or somehow TPTB do a character merge. Transferance has been done (Clark), as has possession (Lana, Lois, Chloe and Lex), and mimicry (Whitney). so I wouldn't put it past them to cook up something where Lois and Chloe wind up as the same person.
CallMeClark
05-12-2006, 06:03 AM
It just doesn't seem like Clark has the same feelings as Chloe. I really wish TPTB would let Chloe move on.
Sweetie
05-12-2006, 06:29 AM
They're so great together as friends,they are very close and have wonderful chemistry.I would like to see them develloping a romance but,I'm effraid if the writters go to this direction.They will make Chloé sufferer again and she will end up like her mother.
Chiriru
05-12-2006, 08:18 AM
Nah - they alreay used destiny and it's never used ironically. Each season sets up something that won't happen in their cliff hangers and such.
She won't move away from him (Tempest). She won't betray him - again - (Exodus). She won't die (Covenant) or get stuck in limbo (Commencement). S5 already did the not crazy in Tomb, and I wonder if now Vessel will mean that she won't be leaving due to violence? Scary Metropolis? Hmm.
erances23
05-12-2006, 09:10 AM
clark need to have some quality time first with his brain--- lower the stupidity level more.....
Mr. Wrong
05-12-2006, 09:28 AM
I am an Alicia fan most definitely, however, Clark is Superhuman and therefore probably incapable of having a physical relationship with any human so I think the question is mute. I do like the methodical development of the Lois character and we know they will eventually have romantic feelings for one another.
Tomswife
05-12-2006, 09:30 AM
I loved Clana so much but since Lana is acting like a arrogant ***** I truely dont think she deserves clark anymore :rolleyes:
SO Chloe all the way!!! She has always been in love with Clark and would NEVER do anything to hurt him.
JerryKing
05-12-2006, 09:34 AM
Wait, wait - where's the only right answer: "Lionel"?
Daphne
05-12-2006, 09:39 AM
Chloe but she has to some how make he change to be called or become the Lois Lane we know and love later in Superman's life. The Lois Lane in the show would have to go.
Süperman
05-12-2006, 10:42 AM
I always think of Chloe as a good friend (not anything more), Lana as the whore (she's been with almost everyone), and Lois as someone that makes Clark smile, angry (in a humiliating way), and blush. Chloe and Lois are the ones who understand him the most (even though Lois doesn't know his secrets). The best comedic moments of the show are when Lois and Clark are together. My favorite parts of the show was when Lois found/met Clark, halrious scenes. Almost seems like the writers want you to fall in love with Lois and Clark but hate Lana and Clark...with passion...lol.
Also Clark and Lois are totally opposites. She is hard, while Clark is soft. They both cancel out the positives and negatives of each other (sounds weird lol). Chloe is way too emotional at times, much like Lana but much less often. Lois is the type of character that brings out sides of Clark we don't find out from other characters.
So, maybe Chlark, hell fuokin no to Clana, and a definate to Clois.
Alicia who? I think she was way too emotional and selfish about Clark that it prolly would not work out in the long run. One night stand should be good enough. :P
manofsteele05
05-12-2006, 10:46 AM
Clark needs to be with TINA GRIER???? on a serious not though it's plain and simple CHLOE... or at least LOIS but definatley not LANA..
paolinki25
05-12-2006, 12:51 PM
I think the latest episode has proven that if Clark is a smart man (which sometimes I doubt) he'll NEVER take Lana back.
Liriel
05-12-2006, 12:54 PM
I do want Chlark (with Chlois) eventually, but for now, I really would rather see more forward journey towards Clark becoming Superman. I don't mind romance going hand-in-hand with that, just don't forget the journey.
LolaDane
05-12-2006, 01:55 PM
Originally posted by Liriel
I do want Chlark (with Chlois) eventually, but for now, I really would rather see more forward journey towards Clark becoming Superman. I don't mind romance going hand-in-hand with that, just don't forget the journey.
I completely agree about seeing more of Clark's journey towards being Superman. It doesn't matter if Clana, Chlark, or Clois is featured if Clark himself does not mature and get his head on straight. Watching any of those ships with a half-developed Clark would be painful.
I'm a Superman fan first and foremost so I voted for Lois. My top 3 will always be Clark, Lex, and Lois. I'm glad I have Superman Returns and the comics to fall back on whenever SV disappoints.
As for Chlois, no thanks. I'd feel robbed and cheated if TPTB go that route. It would be like watching Star Wars Episode 3 with George Lucase deciding to add the twist that Anakin doesn't become Darth Vader. If Chloe ends up as Lois, it's a slap in the face to those who love and support Erica's Lois. And no matter what some of Lois' detractors say, she does have a sizeable fan base in the overall SV fandom. I hope to see more of her in the next season.
Liriel
05-12-2006, 02:32 PM
If Chloe ends up as Lois, it's a slap in the face to those who love and support Erica's Lois.See, I see EDLois being Lois as a slap in the face of those who love Lois, because she lacks the most important Lois traits to me. And yes, we're wandering here, I just always have to specify that I am only a Chlark fan in support of Chlois, not if she isn't Lois, because that just makes Clois and Clark and Lois look bad.
In any event, I agree that romance should be secondary to Clark's journey to becoming Superman. But this show is a WB drama, so I suspect romance and romantic angst will get the lion's share of the screentime.
batfinx
05-12-2006, 03:10 PM
As for Chlois, no thanks. I'd feel robbed and cheated if TPTB go that route. It would be like watching Star Wars Episode 3 with George Lucase deciding to add the twist that Anakin doesn't become Darth Vader. If Chloe ends up as Lois, it's a slap in the face to those who love and support Erica's Lois. And no matter what some of Lois' detractors say, she does have a sizeable fan base in the overall SV fandom. I hope to see more of her in the next season.
Amen!! I think Erica is a fun and sexy Lois and has a caring side. I like Chloe well enough, but she saves the day more than Clark and she does almost all his thinking for him. Lois tells Clark to trust his gut and think for himself. In my opion that helps him a whole lot more than doing everything for him and looking up everything for him. He'll never be Superman if he can't trust his gut and think for himself. I'm pumped for Superman Returns, the trailer for that movie was my favorite part of the finale :lol:
cloisfan4life
05-12-2006, 04:13 PM
I believe Clark needs to be by himself for a while and learn (as lois told him) to trush his gut and do things for himself. He needs to become at least more smarter..and decode things for himself rather than run to chloe all the time. True this season seems like Chloe finding out the problem and Clark goes ahead and saves it.
Season 6 has to be more about Clark than whoever he's dating. I don't think Clark will ever become the hero he's suppose to be until he knows he is and accepts his destiny and becomes independent. I'm not totally rejecting chlark or maybe a closer friendship of clois, but Clark NEEDS to be ON HIS OWN. I can't picture him being in a relationship because he's just going to be the same old clark kent who can't make up his own mind and looks for help. Its cool every once in a while, but dude come on clark get a brain and figure stuff out on yer own.
sdogg1m
05-12-2006, 04:16 PM
Who do I want Clark to end up with: Chloe
Who should Clark end up with: Lois, DUH!
youandme
05-12-2006, 04:29 PM
You know during the first few seasons I really couldn't stand Chloe, she was so jealous and possesive when it came to Clark. I really wanted him to be with Lana. But as we head into season 6 Lana has completely turned her back on Clark, didn't have any faith in him and gave up, I mean she really didn't even try to make it work. I really don't like Lana now.
Chole has really grown up to be undertanding and responsible young woman. She has handled all the relationships whoas of Chlana and has always been there for Clark. Even when it was painful for her to hear Clark talk about how much he loved Lana Chole took it and always told him she was happy for him. She has even kept his secret and handled that responsibility. Even the times when she was blackmailed or threatened by Lionel She always did the right thing in the end. She really gives Clark unconditonal love. I am really proud of who she has become.
Lois ,,ugh I can't stand her and Clark and her just don't fit together.
I'm rooting for Chloe all the way.
cloisfan4life
05-12-2006, 04:56 PM
Well Lois is still growing up...sooner or later she's going to completely change just like chloe did. I don't think there will be any romantic clois until the last season. For now I just see Clois becoming better friends in season 6. Like I said before I don't think Clark should jump into a relationship..he needs to be on his own and be his own man. I just don't see him becoming a man with a brain if he stays in a relationship.
cxianet
05-12-2006, 04:57 PM
Originally posted by youandme
Lois ,,ugh I can't stand her and Clark and her just don't fit together.
I'm rooting for Chloe all the way.
Now that's not very nice to say about Lois. :(
Now, I suppose I'm more than a little biased as I'm a huge Clois fan. I've always loved their banter and even their little fights. Right now, Clois seems full of tension but that's just the way it should be; it never was love at first sight.
Chlark, I love. I adored the kiss last night; it sent my heart fluttering all over the place. However, I'm not as much of a Chlark fan as a Clois fan so...:rolleyes:
I am the Superman
05-12-2006, 05:13 PM
when lana and clark are at their best, there is no better couple.
clana20
05-12-2006, 06:17 PM
Exactly right, I am superman. Take away the last half of this season and the way Lana's character has been butchered, and put them back together... her and clark are amazing together.
brainiac's brain
05-12-2006, 06:20 PM
Chloe!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The kiss between them in "Vessel" sent me over the edge. Between Lans's betrayal and Lois's uninterest Chloe has to be the one, at least for the moment. Initially I was against it and I wanted Clark to get together with Lana again, but in the past several episodes she just making me furious! Chloe knows his secret, so.....
I voted Chloe. She knows his secret and the kiss they shared yesterday was soo hot!! Clark didn't even push her away, it means that he liked it...:) But I think the Clois relation would be great too cuz I love the funny side of their relation :) They seem to like each other in a certain way...I really don't know which girl I'd rather see with Clark...Chloe or Lois? Right now, I think I am more on the Chlark side...:p
janedoe
05-12-2006, 07:30 PM
To be honest I used to be a Clana fan, but now I really dont like them. I can understand everything Lana feels towards Clark and why she is angry, I can even understand her being with Lex to some degree b/c he is honest with her; but at the end of the day I really dont like her anymore. I think that the writers have taken a character with so much potential and butchered her, it's like when she does stuff nowadays I just want to smack her. How could she be with Lex, I mean she knows how bad he can be, I couldn't forget something like that no matter how good some1 became/ or appeared to change. I know she is mad @ Clark, but saying she can't trust him is kinda crazy cuz he doesn't lie cuz he's doin grimy stuff like Lex, even though lieing is wrong pd n there is no justification, I think Clark cares more about Lana because he tries to protect her from things other than Lex who even said he wanted Lana just because Clark had her, only tells her the truth whether or not it puts her life in jeopardy to keep her, n that's not love, that's lust. Clark is getting better in my opinion, in terms of embracing his destiny, and getting a lil' more mature, but I still think he is emotionally retarded. Even if he isn't honest w/ Lana, he is always trying to protect her, he tends to put her above everything else, n even though him n Lex aren't friends he still refused to kill him, to me that show's how big of a heart he has, I can't believe Lana said that to him.
Lois n Clark should be together because they haven't hurt each other as much as Clark and Lana have, they also challenge each other to be better, they just don't accept each other for who they are but what they could be. To me that's what matters, when someone loves you enough not to want you to stay the way you are, but they see the good in you. I dont think Clark and Lana are capable of that, I think they just want each other to stay the same, or in Clark's position he's either too afraid to challenge her or sees her as perfect which is a problem, b/c we all have problems, Clark needs to start defending himself to Lana instead of just letting her say or think whatever she wants, he doesn't have to tell her the truth, he needs to start given her a dose of what he gives to Lex on occasion. Lana wants Clark the way he is, she doesn't want him to change, she wants comfort not that that is wrong, but that isn't what Clark needs he needs to be challenged to his full potential to become Superman. I think that if Clark stays with Lana he could never be Superman.
Chlark to me are just better as friends.
watcher4
05-12-2006, 09:23 PM
At this point and time, Clark does not need to be with anyone. He needs some single time. Time to become focused on his true destiny and accept his Kryptonian heritage. Hey, Jonathan Kent had to die so that Clark could become Superman. Well, then Clark better hop to it or else the series will end with Clark still being BDA!
E^vol
05-12-2006, 11:34 PM
CHLOE !!!!!
clana4ev3r
05-12-2006, 11:39 PM
LANA!!!!
Black Man of Steel
05-13-2006, 12:51 AM
Chloe, she's so nice. The Lana thing is dead and Lois is annoying, go in the kitchen and make me a pie... oh wait, nevermind, I don't want it to be blue. I've seen your baking... :(
CK&CK
05-13-2006, 01:21 AM
Chloe Sullivan!
Woo-hoo!
Miss L
05-13-2006, 02:02 AM
I still think Clark shouldn't be with anyone until he gets his head together about his direction in life. So I vote no one. I think he should just go it alone for a while.
It's ok to be single.
Hoshi_Reed
05-13-2006, 05:38 AM
Chloe all the way with a Chlois chaser
this is a "Who Do YOU Think Clark Should End Up With?" thread not a Chlois thread. please stay on topic people.
I thought the whole POINT of commenting in a poll thread was to explain not just WHO/What you picked/voted on but the WHY too. Plus it helps count head on Chlois, vs. Clana fans who switch sides, Lana dislikers, Clois fans who vote Chloe for a Chlark relationship as a passing romance before EDLois, etc. Yes we shouldn’t go into it but we can state it is the reason we voted the way we did as clarification/sub-clasification for statistic purposes.
viralend
05-13-2006, 09:59 AM
Hi
I just joined this site today because I had to post this. If we can vote alicia even though she's dead, we should have the option to vote for Kyla Willowbrook.
If you haven't seen 2x10 - skinwalker,
go see it.
It seems [ img ] code is off so i'll use links instead.
Hottie Kyla (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v106/zhoffman/ex1.jpg)
Kyla was everything Clark needed in a woman. Sexy, intelligent, oh and she treated him like a god.
Not to mention the Kiwatchi cave painting symbol for the woman he is destined to be with is the same as kyla's bracelet.
Cave painting and more hottie kyla (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v106/zhoffman/ex2.jpg)
Kyla's Bracelet (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v106/zhoffman/ex3.jpg)
Oh yeah, and she can turn into a wolf. Sweetness
Kyla was clark's first actual love and not including that in the vote is doing kyla a disservice.
Sweetie
05-13-2006, 10:41 AM
Originally posted by viralend
Hi
I just joined this site today because I had to post this. If we can vote alicia even though she's dead, we should have the option to vote for Kyla Willowbrook.
If you haven't seen 2x10 - skinwalker,
go see it.
It seems [ img ] code is off so i'll use links instead.
Hottie Kyla (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v106/zhoffman/ex1.jpg)
Kyla was everything Clark needed in a woman. Sexy, intelligent, oh and she treated him like a god.
Not to mention the Kiwatchi cave painting symbol for the woman he is destined to be with is the same as kyla's bracelet.
Cave painting and more hottie kyla (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v106/zhoffman/ex2.jpg)
Kyla's Bracelet (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v106/zhoffman/ex3.jpg)
Oh yeah, and she can turn into a wolf. Sweetness
Kyla was clark's first actual love and not including that in the vote is doing kyla a disservice.
I agree.I really liked Kyla...They really were in love with each other.I was angry when she died in the end.So,Clark would have to go back with Lana "tell me the thruth" Lang:rolleyes:
dhacker615
05-13-2006, 11:20 AM
Originally posted by viralend
Hi
I just joined this site today because I had to post this. If we can vote alicia even though she's dead, we should have the option to vote for Kyla Willowbrook.
If you haven't seen 2x10 - skinwalker,
go see it.
It seems [ img ] code is off so i'll use links instead.
Hottie Kyla (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v106/zhoffman/ex1.jpg)
Kyla was everything Clark needed in a woman. Sexy, intelligent, oh and she treated him like a god.
Not to mention the Kiwatchi cave painting symbol for the woman he is destined to be with is the same as kyla's bracelet.
Cave painting and more hottie kyla (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v106/zhoffman/ex2.jpg)
Kyla's Bracelet (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v106/zhoffman/ex3.jpg)
Oh yeah, and she can turn into a wolf. Sweetness
Kyla was clark's first actual love and not including that in the vote is doing kyla a disservice.
That episode was like something out of the Six-Million-Dollar Man. Kyla was a better character than that.
Christine C
05-13-2006, 06:43 PM
Chloe, who might as well be the real Lois.
PaulNeb
05-13-2006, 08:15 PM
Originally posted by viralend
Hi
I just joined this site today because I had to post this. If we can vote alicia even though she's dead, we should have the option to vote for Kyla Willowbrook.
I'll second that suggestion. I'm not sure if she would have been "the one", though. Kyla learned of Clark's powers early on, which was never good for your health in the first three of seasons. Clark was also very hung up on Lana at the time, which may not have been so good for Lana's health.
Besides being dead, both Kyla and Alicia were a bit impulsive and had powers. Not the best combination. Chloe may be impulsive, even reckless, at times, but she doesn't have powers that can make the situation worse.
Until Lois mellows out, my vote stays with Chloe.
Man of Steels45x
05-14-2006, 07:07 AM
A Lois common it's all supposed to be Lois & Clark. You can't change the story
Right now it would be nice to see Chloe getting some piece of the supermeat, but in the long run I'd have to go with Lois. Chloe is a loyal friend and should stay that way, Clark need some kind of friend in his actionfilled life. ;)
Kryptonian_unforgiven
05-14-2006, 03:43 PM
Originally posted by viralend
Hi
I just joined this site today because I had to post this. If we can vote alicia even though she's dead, we should have the option to vote for Kyla Willowbrook.
If you haven't seen 2x10 - skinwalker,
go see it.
It seems [ img ] code is off so i'll use links instead.
Hottie Kyla (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v106/zhoffman/ex1.jpg)
Kyla was everything Clark needed in a woman. Sexy, intelligent, oh and she treated him like a god.
Not to mention the Kiwatchi cave painting symbol for the woman he is destined to be with is the same as kyla's bracelet.
Cave painting and more hottie kyla (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v106/zhoffman/ex2.jpg)
Kyla's Bracelet (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v106/zhoffman/ex3.jpg)
Oh yeah, and she can turn into a wolf. Sweetness
Kyla was clark's first actual love and not including that in the vote is doing kyla a disservice.
Sorry about that,but i forgot to mention that if you didin't like the suggestions,then of course you could make some of your own:) With there possibly being only one season left,i wanted to get people's opinions now before season 6 begins,and the only reason i included Alicia is because she was my favourite FOTW character & i wish she could come back :(
Phantazma
05-14-2006, 04:02 PM
In my dream world--Chloe Sullivan.
She's more "Lois Lane" than Lois Lane.
Donnie Brasco
05-14-2006, 04:05 PM
Yeah so I keep hearing :rolleyes:
Lois Lane
SmallvilleCrazed823
05-14-2006, 04:32 PM
The reporter of the story....Chloe Sullivan
Sweetie
05-14-2006, 04:46 PM
I dont think that Chloé=Lois because she knows Clark's secret before he works at D.P...I know that Smallville doesn't follow the mytho but,they have to follow that one carefully if they don't want to end in court again...If Chloé is indeed Lois,Clark will have to give the amnesia-kiss(that would be so lame).I hated it in Superman II,I don't want to see that on Smallville.
Phantazma
05-14-2006, 05:08 PM
To me "Lois Lane" is just a name. It's the spirit of "Lois Lane" that I'm fond of--and the spirit is strong in the character of Chloe Sullivan.
Anyway, I blame the wonky mythos of the Smallville world on Superboy-Prime punches. :p
Donnie Brasco
05-14-2006, 05:52 PM
I'm sick of all this Lois is Chloe nonsense.
Lois is Lois and Lois is sweet. I love Lois.
Roll on Clois :D
Welling_is_pretty
05-14-2006, 06:11 PM
I voted Chloe. It's not time for Clois yet! (of course, she's not even supposed to be in Smallville yet either!)
And after so long a time of unrequited love I would be happy if it could requited for even a short time.
PaulNeb
05-14-2006, 07:59 PM
Originally posted by Man of Steels45x
A Lois common it's all supposed to be Lois & Clark. You can't change the story
Well, yeah, you can. DC does it all the time. In the original mythos, Johnathan and Martha Kent were middle-aged when they found Clark and elderly by the time he left Smallville. That's not true in the modern version of the comic. Also, in the comics, Lana is a redhead and Lois is a brunette. Yeah, I know. Details, details. :lol:
And as several people have said, and I have to agree with them, Chloe is more of the character known in the comics as Lois Lane than Smallville's Lois Lane. No disrespect to ED. She's a good actor and has great chemistry with TW. but from the point of view of character definitions, in Smallville, "Lois Lane"'s name was changed to Chloe Sullivian on Day 1.
Chloe might not be "the one", but for the immediate future, she should be the woman in Clark's life. That's assuming she survives the chaos.
A final note. In Lexmas, Clark and Chloe were both working for the DP and they seemed to me to be more than just coworkers. Of course, Lex chose the other path, so what we saw will never come to be.
Kryptonian_unforgiven
05-14-2006, 08:17 PM
Originally posted by Phantazma
In my dream world--Chloe Sullivan.
She's more "Lois Lane" than Lois Lane.
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: right on,exactly! :rotfl: :rotfl:
RobynAdele0406
05-14-2006, 11:04 PM
Chloe, of course. Their friendship is SO strong and the chemistry is there.
Hoosier
05-15-2006, 05:04 PM
chlark. chlark... chlark
jack1487
05-15-2006, 06:41 PM
Originally posted by Donnie Brasco
You would be surprised how many guys would go for someone with the personality of Lois .
I'd have Lois over Chloe anyday
Carry on.
I agree, it has to be Lois.....
Jack
austezie
05-15-2006, 08:39 PM
Considering none of us really have a choice it has to be lois either way.
milton fine
05-15-2006, 10:51 PM
i say chloe for season six and then lois in season 7
PaulNeb
05-16-2006, 05:43 AM
Originally posted by milton fine
i say chloe for season six and then lois in season 7
I agree. If and when Clark does hook up with Lois, it will be towards the end of the series.
Tomsgurl88
05-16-2006, 09:39 AM
For the gazillonth time Clark and Lois always and forever.
ms.c.
05-16-2006, 05:26 PM
Chlois.
photogirl
05-16-2006, 06:14 PM
Chloe with no question
RJLCyberPunk
05-16-2006, 06:41 PM
Louis for sure!
Chloe is not a cannonical character and therefore she can't possibly ever end up with Clark period anymore than Lionel could end up with Marta although not for lack of trying!;)
Scorpio31
05-17-2006, 09:54 AM
Who in the heck cares if Chloe isn't a cannon character RJLCyberpunk, it doesn't matter. Another thing how can you say she can't possibly end up with Clark? Unless you are a mind reader, and know what the writers are going to do, I wouldn't put much faith in what can and can not happen.
As for who should Clark end up with, it should be Chloe if anyone. I swear if they put him with that nit whit Nois, I'll stop watching because to me they will always have a brother, sister relationship.
tomclarkie_rox
05-17-2006, 01:47 PM
Chloe....Chloe....and Chloe!!! don't like Lana much....n Lois....her 1-liners r hilarious....though i think Chloe wuld be better...no doubt!!!!!
gottaralane
05-17-2006, 01:57 PM
You don't have to be a mind reader to see thatr Chloe would never end up with Clark simply cause Lois Lane is in the show.
If TPTB woudn't never bring Lois, at this point of the show people (myself included) would think that Chloe will end up with Clark, but the true is that Lois is in the show, they put her for a reason to remind us that she is the one for Clark IN ANY TIME ANY GALAXY OR VERSION OF THE MITHOS the time of lana is gone, Chloe will last the most 5 episodes before she or Clark realises that they don`t match as a couple.
And the Lois=Chloe theory is just stupid I mean someone told here and I'm totally agree that everybody who knows Chloe at the DP will know her as Lois in the future?? I mean they would stop calling her Chloe to calling her Lois????' the same with Clark, he knows her like forever and suddenly he will call her Lois.
Even for TPTB this is kind of stupid, go to ther road of Chlois
Fly by guy
05-17-2006, 02:25 PM
Pre Splinter Lana. Then she pulled a Jeckyll/Hyde and I don't recognize what she is now.
heavens_cry
05-17-2006, 02:59 PM
Chloe because she becomes lois in my opion
Hoshi_Reed
05-18-2006, 09:06 PM
Chloe is the true soulmate
Did they call Mohammed Ali Cassius Clay? He fought under his original name for a while.
gottaralane
05-20-2006, 10:49 PM
It's not only the name there are a lot of reasons why Chlow can't be Lois
*Chloe knows Clark secret wich obviously Lois doesn't know in the future
*The constants hits that TPTB give us that EDLois will end up with Clark, I mean if Chloe were the real Lois Lane the hints would be when Chloe and Clark are toghether.
Ayanne
05-20-2006, 10:53 PM
Allison Mack & Tom Welling have the chemistry & TPTB are idiots if they do not pursue a relationship between Clark & Chloe for as long as they can.
DECKASTYLE
05-20-2006, 11:21 PM
If Alicia were still on the show, she would definately be clark's bride to be.... they should make an episode where she didn't actually die (it was a clone) and they fall in love all over again!
SamIam
05-21-2006, 12:45 AM
The Lois we know from cannon has yet to emerge from this character. She's used purely as filler. However, even if they were to rapidly develop a character who resembled the true Lois, and Clark suddenly developed overnight feelings it would all be forced. Lois is the future.... far and distant.
Right now this is a very immature incarnation of her. For them to throw these two together would be premature and ruin whatever chemistry is dwindling between the two. Lois shouldn't even be in Smallville. It's pathetic that her character is reduced to pure plot device. For the salvation of future Clois, TPTB should send her packin and out of Smallville, because the last thing that anyone needs is to create pre-existing baggage between the two.
So who should Clark end up with? But honestly, Clark should take a break from all things female.
But since this is a poll thread, I'm voting Chloe. It would be FAR more entertaining and less detrimental to the canon of Superman.
FreakyDroid
05-21-2006, 11:25 AM
Originally posted by SamIam
The Lois we know from cannon has yet to emerge from this character. She's used purely as filler. However, even if they were to rapidly develop a character who resembled the true Lois, and Clark suddenly developed overnight feelings it would all be forced. Lois is the future.... far and distant.
Right now this is a very immature incarnation of her.
Everybody's talking how Lois doesnot resemble the iconic Lois. Tell me, does Clark resemble Superman? Does Lex resemble the iconic Lex Luthor?
The simple answer is no, not yet. They are growing up and becoming who they're supposed to be.
Originally posted by SamIam
Lois shouldn't even be in Smallville.
What about Zod and Brainiac, are they supposed to be in Smallville?
Originally posted by SamIam
It's pathetic that her character is reduced to pure plot device.
I always thought that Chloe is the plot device. What do you know about her besides having a mother in a mental institution and a father working for Luthor Corp? She's allways at the DP (Torch), hacking in computers, finding out information and helping Clark to solve the plot. That's her only purpose on this show.
Originally posted by SamIam
So who should Clark end up with? But honestly, Clark should take a break from all things female.
Amen to that.
Originally posted by SamIam
But since this is a poll thread, I'm voting Chloe. It would be FAR more entertaining and less detrimental to the canon of Superman.
Chloe and Clark know eachother 5 years, what kind of happy moments they can bring? Nothing, that relationship is a dead-end, and there's no fun in it. Even if they start dating, it will be "Romeo and Juliet" kinda relationship. There's no dynamics at all between them. Where's the fun in that?
Clois on the other hand, that's something different ... in this case its the oppposites attract, its the dynamics between those two that makes their interaction so enjoyable. Its fun, it makes you happy, and it puts a smile on my face.
redraven
05-21-2006, 11:28 AM
I think he should end up w/ Lois...
Scorpio31
05-21-2006, 01:15 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by FreakyDroid
[B]Everybody's talking how Lois doesnot resemble the iconic Lois. Tell me, does Clark resemble Superman? Does Lex resemble the iconic Lex Luthor?
The simple answer is no, not yet. They are growing up and becoming who they're supposed to be.
Yes they do in their own way, and for one people say that because at least their on the path that their supposed to be on Clark the hero, Lex the villain. Now tell where is Lois on the path she's supposed to be on?
1. Youngest reporter at the DP. Tell me is she? (She looks like she's about to be 40)
2. Established at the DP by the time Clark comes to work there. Is she even close?
3. Does she live and breathe journalism. Tell me does she?
But who is all of these things?
Clark
1. The hero who saves the day. Check (even though Chloe seems to be the one who saves the day, now days.).
2. He’s at least on the path to becoming a journalist.
I can't really think of anything else because I'm not in to Superman.
Lex
1. On his way to becoming Clark arch-enemy. Check!!!
2. on the quest for power. Check!!!
3. Very intelligent (well I’m so-so on that one, because he is going out with the most boring person on the show).
Those may be some reasons people say Lois doesn't resemble Iconic! Lois.
What about Zod and Brainiac, are they supposed to be in Smallville?
I think their just making all the thing that is supposed to happen early on. This would explain why Chloe know Clarks secret if she does turn out to be Lois. YES Lois does know Clarks secret in the future gottaralane.
gottaralane
05-21-2006, 02:39 PM
wich I ment is she doesn't know when they are at the DP and Clark is superman, lois knows that clark is superman after he actually becomes Superman noi before
Chloe knows clark's secret before he becomes superman which is TPTB stick to the mythos about Lois-not-knowing-that-Clark-is-Superman Chloe couldn't be lois in any way
FreakyDroid
05-21-2006, 03:56 PM
Originally posted by Scorpio31
Yes they do in their own way, and for one people say that because at least their on the path that their supposed to be on Clark the hero, Lex the villain. Now tell where is Lois on the path she's supposed to be on?
1. Youngest reporter at the DP. Tell me is she? (She looks like she's about to be 40)
2. Established at the DP by the time Clark comes to work there. Is she even close?
3. Does she live and breathe journalism. Tell me does she?
But who is all of these things?
1. Erica in your eyes may be 40, in my eyes she's one HOT babe.
2. Oh please, you say you're not into Superman, but here you are making timeline comparations between SV and the comics. Haven't you noticed by now that SV is bending it? A "little" bit?
Please don't get me started with the timeline. Do you know at which age is Clark supposed to start flying? When is he supposed to start accepting his Kryptonian herritage? In a show about Clark Kent becoming Superman, I find it difficult to understand why we are more concearned about Lois becoming the iconic Lois, then CK becoming the iconic Superman. The sooner you start accepting the fact that Smallville is a different take on the mythos, the better.
3. No she doesn't. But who's to say that wont change next season?
Again you're making timeline comparations, to prove the Chloe=Lois theory. I've read tons of comics and let me tell you Lois is not only about journalism, she's much more than that.
Lois never worked in a higschool paper called the Torch, she fell in love first in Superman, then in Clark Kent, she never went in the same highschool with Clark. Clark never turned down Lois's love for him, but he did turn down Chloe. 3 times. I can make e very very long list why Chloe is not Lois, but you will never accept it, just like I dont accept the Chloe=Lois theory. So let's agree to disagree and leave it there. You believe in your theory and I'll stick with mine. :D
Originally posted by Scorpio31
Clark
1. The hero who saves the day. Check (even though Chloe seems to be the one who saves the day, now days.).
2. He’s at least on the path to becoming a journalist.
I can't really think of anything else because I'm not in to Superman.
2. What path to journalism? Because he goes to visit Chloe at the DP? Can you give me an example of his interest in journalism? Or you're going to say that he worked at the Torch? Well guess what, the Torch and Chloe were never mentioned in any comic book. They were created just for the Smallville Universe and Chloe was supposed to be the SV version of Lois, but not become the iconic Lois. There's a big difference.
Originally posted by Scorpio31
I think their just making all the thing that is supposed to happen early on. This would explain why Chloe know Clarks secret if she does turn out to be Lois. YES Lois does know Clarks secret in the future gottaralane.
Let's talk about Lana. When does she finds out the secret? Is she a bad person in the comics? What about Jor-El?
So its OK with you if they bend the timeline for Lana, Zod, Brainiac and for a lot of other things, but when it comes to Lois, NO, God forbids.
Again, this is SV, and this story has never been told before, so its open for million different interpretations.
Chloe knows his secret because Pete is gone. There has to be someone he can share his secret with, just for storyline purposes. Otherwise it will be borring to watch the show. ;)
Scorpio31
05-21-2006, 08:35 PM
Originally posted by FreakyDroid
2. Oh please, you say you're not into Superman, but here you are making timeline comparations between SV and the comics. Haven't you noticed by now that SV is bending it? A "little" bit?
Please don't get me started with the timeline. Do you know at which age is Clark supposed to start flying? When is he supposed to start accepting his Kryptonian herritage? In a show about Clark Kent becoming Superman, I find it difficult to understand why we are more concearned about Lois becoming the iconic Lois, then CK becoming the iconic Superman. The sooner you start accepting the fact that Smallville is a different take on the mythos, the better.
Oh please yourself, If would read my other post you would know I could careless about the mythos. The only reason I brought up those things is because I was replying to someone who does, & wanted to get technical (obviously!!!). Another thing I know this is Smallville that’s why I don't get how someone could say that Chloe could never become Lois, could answer that? Concerned more Chloe (not Lois by the way) because Clark is an idiot, enough said.
Originally posted by FreakyDroid
3. No she doesn't. But who's to say that wont change next season?
Your right who's to say. Well who's to say Chloe can't become Lois (exactly).
Originally posted by FreakyDroid
Lois never worked in a higschool paper called the Torch, she fell in love first in Superman, then in Clark Kent, she never went in the same highschool with Clark. Clark never turned down Lois's love for him, but he did turn down Chloe. 3 times. I can make e very very long list why Chloe is not Lois, but you will never accept it, just like I dont accept the Chloe=Lois theory. So let's agree to disagree and leave it there. You believe in your theory and I'll stick with mine. :D
I thought you just said this is smallville, but here you are using the mythos for your own opinion (that's just what I was doing).
Originally posted by FreakyDroid
2. What path to journalism? Because he goes to visit Chloe at the DP? Can you give me an example of his interest in journalism? Or you're going to say that he worked at the Torch? Well guess what, the Torch and Chloe were never mentioned in any comic book. They were created just for the Smallville Universe and Chloe was supposed to be the SV version of Lois, but not become the iconic Lois. There's a big difference.
And how would you know she won’t turn out to be Lois?
Originally posted by FreakyDroid
Let's talk about Lana. When does she finds out the secret? Is she a bad person in the comics? What about Jor-El?
To tell you the truth I never read a comic I only got all those things from this board, so I wouldn't know.
Originally posted by FreakyDroid
So its OK with you if they bend the timeline for Lana, Zod, Brainiac and for a lot of other things, but when it comes to Lois, NO, God forbids.
Again, this is SV, and this story has never been told before, so its open for million different interpretations.
Yes a million which do BTW include Chlois. I just don't like ED's Nois.
2 get back on topic go Chloe you ROCK!!!!!!!
FreakyDroid
05-22-2006, 01:09 AM
If the name of the show (or the description of the show) was "The Secret Identity of Lois Lane", then MAYBE I would've believed in this theory, but since the show goes by the name "Smallville", the life of young Clark Kent becoming Superman, I don't buy it.
SV's purpose is to take the characters (primarily CK) to point of their iconic selves that we know, (or at least we think we know) from the comics. SV spent the first 3 seasons on Chloe investigating CK, and the last 2 seasons on her redemption. We still have 1 to 2 (maybe more) seasons untill the show ends. Still plenty of time to develop ED Lois. But if you don't like her, that's your problem. I didn't like Chloe in the first 3 seasons, but now I do. I liked Lana in the first 4 seasons, but now I don't. You see where I'm going?
Give it time, and enjoy the ride. ;)
batfinx
05-22-2006, 03:05 AM
1. Erica in your eyes may be 40, in my eyes she's one HOT babe.
Thank you! I'm always shocked at that kind of cheap shot at such a beautiful actress.
Again you're making timeline comparations, to prove the Chloe=Lois theory. I've read tons of comics and let me tell you Lois is not only about journalism, she's much more than that.
Absolutely right. Lois is about a lot more than journalism and if you take journalism away from Chloe she has almost nothing else in common with 'iconic' Lois. I won't get into the "chloe-is-lois" stuff because those kinds of posts usually get edited, but Smallville is about the characters' journeys to becoming their iconic selves. Lois isn't a reporter yet and Clark isn't Superman or a reporter yet. They both have a long way to go on their journeys.
Chloe on the other hand has always had the goal of becoming a reporter and her dream was to work at the Daily Planet. Chloe has achieved her goal and is living her dream. In other words she's no longer on a journey, but Lois and Clark still are, as is Lex. Lois is who Clark will and should end up with because their romance is legendary. Any other pairing with Clark is second rate and doomed.
Supergirl Jam
05-22-2006, 11:05 AM
Originally posted by batfinx
Thank you! I'm always shocked at that kind of cheap shot at such a beautiful actress.
Absolutely right. Lois is about a lot more than journalism and if you take journalism away from Chloe she has almost nothing else in common with 'iconic' Lois. I won't get into the "chloe-is-lois" stuff because those kinds of posts usually get edited, but Smallville is about the characters' journeys to becoming their iconic selves. Lois isn't a reporter yet and Clark isn't Superman or a reporter yet. They both have a long way to go on their journeys.
Chloe on the other hand has always had the goal of becoming a reporter and her dream was to work at the Daily Planet. Chloe has achieved her goal and is living her dream. In other words she's no longer on a journey, but Lois and Clark still are, as is Lex. Lois is who Clark will and should end up with because their romance is legendary. Any other pairing with Clark is second rate and doomed.
Well Said!!
Chlex
05-22-2006, 12:07 PM
He should be with Lois Lane
Because they are meant to be together and more
Scorpio31
05-22-2006, 01:54 PM
Originally posted by batfinx
Thank you! I'm always shocked at that kind of cheap shot at such a beautiful actress.
Ok maybe I over did by one or two years but she does like she's around my mom's age (she’s 41)
Originally posted by batfinx
Absolutely right. Lois is about a lot more than journalism and if you take journalism away from Chloe she has almost nothing else in common with 'iconic' Lois. I won't get into the "chloe-is-lois" stuff because those kinds of posts usually get edited, but Smallville is about the characters' journeys to becoming their iconic selves. Lois isn't a reporter yet and Clark isn't Superman or a reporter yet. They both have a long way to go on their journeys.
Clark and Lois is that at least Clark is some what on his path.
Originally posted by batfinx
Chloe on the other hand has always had the goal of becoming a reporter and her dream was to work at the Daily Planet. Chloe has achieved her goal and is living her dream. In other words she's no longer on a journey, but Lois and Clark still are, as is Lex. Lois is who Clark will and should end up with because their romance is legendary. Any other pairing with Clark is second rate and doomed.
LOL!!! Are you serious? Chloe BTW isn't living her dream yet. She wants to be at the top, which there for means her journey isn't over.
Originally posted by Freaky Droid
SV's purpose is to take the characters (primarily CK) to point of their iconic selves that we know, (or at least we think we know) from the comics. SV spent the first 3 seasons on Chloe investigating CK, and the last 2 seasons on her redemption. We still have 1 to 2 (maybe more) seasons untill the show ends. Still plenty of time to develop ED Lois. But if you don't like her, that's your problem. I didn't like Chloe in the first 3 seasons, but now I do. I liked Lana in the first 4 seasons, but now I don't. You see where I'm going?
Yes I get where you’re going, that I might start to like her at some point. But I will not like her if she ends up with everything, lets see Chloe has worked hard to get where she is, and everything for Lois seems to just fall in her lap. So if she ends up becoming the best reporter at the DP when I've had to watch Chloe work her butt off to just work in the basement. Tell me do you think that's fair?
I guess I have to put something on the topic at hand, so go Chloe you are the best there is and the best there ever will be!!!
FreakyDroid
05-22-2006, 02:23 PM
Originally posted by Scorpio31
Yes I get where you’re going, that I might start to like her at some point. But I will not like her if she ends up with everything, lets see Chloe has worked hard to get where she is, and everything for Lois seems to just fall in her lap. So if she ends up becoming the best reporter at the DP when I've had to watch Chloe work her butt off to just work in the basement. Tell me do you think that's fair?
Look, who said life is fair? :D
Why don't you just admit it. You feel that justice will be served if Chloe gets a piece of Clark. Because AM is a better actress then ED, and that at this point of the show Chloe is more likable than Lois (for some people), because she supports him, helps him, knows his secret, they are very good firends, and the only logical step for you is to take their relationship to the next level as a couple.
So now we have to invent a way how to make this permanent. Wait Clark edns with Lois, so I'm thinking now ..... Chloe's only chance to get everything in life is if she changes her name and become "the Lois". Hey that's cool. What do you think? Perfect. You? Excellent. OK new theory Chloe is Lois.
That's serious rewriting of Lois's origins. If this happens, the Superboy lawsuit will be a joke comparing to this one :D
Scorpio31
05-22-2006, 03:49 PM
Originally posted by FreakyDroid
Look, who said life is fair? :D
I knew you were going to say that.
Originally posted by FreakyDroid
Why don't you just admit it. You feel that justice will be served if Chloe gets a piece of Clark. Because AM is a better actress then ED, and that at this point of the show Chloe is more likable than Lois (for some people), because she supports him, helps him, knows his secret, they are very good firends, and the only logical step for you is to take their relationship to the next level as a couple.
Actually I would like Chloe to end up with someone with higher of I.Q. (he's a hottie but no brains) But yes your right that's way I like Chloe better.
Originally posted by FreakyDroid
So now we have to invent a way how to make this permanent. Wait Clark edns with Lois, so I'm thinking now ..... Chloe's only chance to get everything in life is if she changes her name and become "the Lois". Hey that's cool. What do you think? Perfect. You? Excellent. OK new theory Chloe is Lois.
Ha ha you’re funny!!!!
I would rather her keep her own name, but there’s a better chance of her survival if she doe's become Lois. That's the only reason why I would want her to become Lois and end up with Clark (besides the fact I still think of Nois as Clark's sister).
FreakyDroid
05-22-2006, 04:17 PM
You think im funny? Then you'll love my theory about Clark's origins :D
I agree with one thing you say. Chloe should end up with someone with higher IQ. That's why I think the best way to resolve the Chloe=Lois dillema is to give Chloe a love interest in S6, because in all honesty she deserves some action ;)
Clark doesn't need anybody now, he needs to grow up, and the only way he can achieve this is through Jor-El. That's why Im against any relationships for Clark. I see them as obstacles, standing in his way of becoming Superman.
Scorpio31
05-22-2006, 06:03 PM
Originally posted by FreakyDroid
You think im funny? Then you'll love my theory about Clark's origins :D
I agree with one thing you say. Chloe should end up with someone with higher IQ. That's why I think the best way to resolve the Chloe=Lois dillema is to give Chloe a love interest in S6, because in all honesty she deserves some action ;)
Clark doesn't need anybody now, he needs to grow up, and the only way he can achieve this is through Jor-El. That's why Im against any relationships for Clark. I see them as obstacles, standing in his way of becoming Superman.
Yes ITA, as long as she survives it doesn't matter to me one way or the other if she's Lois. Yes Chloe needs some action. I know Clark does need to be solo for a while.
PaulNeb
05-22-2006, 06:08 PM
Giving Chloe a boyfriend, Clark or not, does not solve the Chloe-Lois paradox. It just pospones it.
There's still a Lois and a Lois-like person named Chloe. Make it worse, they both work at the DP. Clark comes to work there. Feelings are going to resurface. Who's gonna have the edge? Chloe.
FreakyDroid
05-22-2006, 06:21 PM
Originally posted by PaulNeb
Giving Chloe a boyfriend, Clark or not, does not solve the Chloe-Lois paradox. It just pospones it.
There's still a Lois and a Lois-like person named Chloe. Make it worse, they both work at the DP. Clark comes to work there. Feelings are going to resurface. Who's gonna have the edge? Chloe.
That's assuming Chloe doesnt fall in love with someone else, and still carries feelings for Clark.
Chloe might as well leave the DP and start working for another newspaper. The fact is there are many arguments on both sides, and only time will tell. Untill then we an only guess.
Joelito
05-24-2006, 06:09 PM
I think to start the Superman mytho and begin the Lois thing.
Chloe is pretty, but I think that's High School love... :\
margroks
05-25-2006, 12:27 PM
Chloe. SHe is everything Lois should be right now. I've always loved Lois in the comics and inn the media but really, this Lois? Not at all the real thing. Chloe has and "Lois" doesn't. Not to mention it would be outrageous for Lois to move in on Clark knowing Chloe still cares for him well that and the fact that Clark disl;ikes Lois intensely. This is Chloe's time and past time for Clark to have a real give and take, honest relationship with someone he can love and trust.
I'm a comic geek and lover of Superman lore and I'm not so closed minded that I can't see the obvious here. Chloe has it and she deserves it. Besides, no one entertains me like Chloe and Clark together doing anything at all. Their chemistry is unequaled on Smallville. Bring on the Chlark and make it Chlois in the end!
FiveForFighting09
05-25-2006, 05:59 PM
lois...no contest........
SacredK
05-25-2006, 08:43 PM
I actually like the chemistry between these sets of Clark and Lois. Else I'd have said Chlark.
margroks
05-26-2006, 06:17 AM
I simply can't accept such a laxkluster shadow of what Lois should be. That and I see no chemistry at all between Lois and Clark. They act like brother and sister and that's just sad. Bring on Chloe! Clark needs the challenge of a real honest relationship with a girl like Chloe!
Watching Smallville
05-26-2006, 11:36 AM
Originally posted by SacredK
I actually like the chemistry between these sets of Clark and Lois. Else I'd have said Chlark. Me, too. They've got a lot of potential. I just hope TPTB don't turn them angsty.
Supergirl Jam
05-26-2006, 11:40 AM
Lois!! I only see Chloe and Clark as good friends that's it though. I can't picture them futher than that. Lois brings a different side of Clark that i don't usually see and that side is him smiling and not being sad like always.
He should be with Lois.
Chlark - I can't stand another break up for another 5 years.
Get her a boyfriend (what about Pete!)
mar1013
05-27-2006, 12:32 PM
Chloe, she is the "Lois Lane" here, i can't stand EDlois, i can't see the point of having her in the show, she doesn't have anything of IconicLois
Chlois all the way
batfinx
05-29-2006, 02:59 PM
I'm a comic geek and lover of Superman lore and I'm not so closed minded that I can't see the obvious here. Chloe has it and she deserves it.
I'm a comic book geek and more specifically a Superman comic book geek. I say no to Clark ending up with a character who has only existed for 5 years as opposed to Lois Lane who has existed nearly 70 years.
Chloe, she is the "Lois Lane" here, i can't stand EDlois, i can't see the point of having her in the show, she doesn't have anything of IconicLois
Icon Lois (from various comic book eras, animated series, movies, and TV shows):
Has a father named Sam.
Has a sister named Lucy.
Is a bad cook.
Knows martial arts.
Was a smoker (movies -- and apparently is tempted to smoke again in the new movie)
She calls Clark Kent 'Smallville'
There are also variations on Lois Lane where she never met Clark Kent as a teen to stories where she did meet Clark as a teen. Stories where she always wanted to be a journalist from a young age to stories where she didn't get the itch until she was an adult. There is no variation where she started life as Chloe Sullivan and became Lois Lane.
I'm looking forward to Chloe being added to the comic books if only for the reason that the answer is made clear once and for all that she and Lois Lane are two completely different characters and always have been.
GatorTex
05-29-2006, 03:26 PM
Originally posted by batfinx
I'm looking forward to Chloe being added to the comic books if only for the reason that the answer is made clear once and for all that she and Lois Lane are two completely different characters and always have been.
Well said ...
SteveS
05-29-2006, 03:30 PM
Smallville's Lois is a miserable person with tremendous flaws unworthy of a second look by Superman. And I still think that Bosworth's Lois will be very unlike what Smallville has put forth as it's version of Lois, the latter destined to be a mini also-ran in the list of Lois Lanes.
Not a comic book fan, nor am I swayed by a cartoon view of what is good or bad in life or a person.
TalkinMac
05-29-2006, 06:06 PM
Ah-ha! I thought of a way Chloe can become Lois. See Lois dies and Chloe takes over her identity.
1.21 gigawatts
05-29-2006, 06:23 PM
Originally posted by batfinx
I'm looking forward to Chloe being added to the comic books if only for the reason that the answer is made clear once and for all that she and Lois Lane are two completely different characters and always have been.
Well said! I wish a lot of the users on here could get that straight.
Originally posted by TalkinMac
Ah-ha! I thought of a way Chloe can become Lois. See Lois dies and Chloe takes over her identity.
Yeah, you and every other Chloiser on the board.
Sorry to break it to you, but Chloe ain't Lois and she never will be.
I voted for Lois. That's the way it works.
PaulNeb
05-29-2006, 06:47 PM
Originally posted by 1.21 gigawatts
Sorry to break it to you, but Chloe ain't Lois and she never will be.
I voted for Lois. That's the way it works.
Sorry to break it to you, but both DC and Marvel rewrite canon on their longer running characters all the time. What appears on TV or in a movie may or may not accurately reflect the character in the comic. How many times have they rewritten Batman's origin for the movies???
Chloe doesn't have to be "Lois" to be Clark's soulmate. This is Smallville. Meteor capital of the world and home to more weird stuff than Carter's got little pills.
I voted Chloe cause she's the best for Clark. Lana is an anchor and Lois is a shrew.
dhacker615
05-29-2006, 06:49 PM
Originally posted by 1.21 gigawatts
Yeah, you and every other Chloiser on the board.
Sorry to break it to you, but Chloe ain't Lois and she never will be.
I voted for Lois. That's the way it works.
I literally cannot understand the impulse to have Chloe transform into the "real Lois Lane". It is a pretty big put-down of Chloe Sullivan character, if you think about it. In her first few appearences, Chloe was a second-rate Lois clone. What has made her appealing to me as the years have worn on is that she has become a distinct character. The one redeeming factor in having the ED-version of Lois on the show has been seeing how different they really are at this point.
It was a smart decision to take Clark down a romantic road with Chloe, IMO, not because she is Lois. It is smart because she isn't. I've seen Lois & Clark bounce off each other literally a hundred times. At this point, I know the Clana backwards and forwards. Chloe and Clark as a couple is totally new. We have gotten hints here and there, but it is hard to know how it will play out.
That is interesting.
J Geils
05-29-2006, 08:41 PM
I would rather him end up with Chloe but it will end up as Lois in the end. I kind of liked how in Lexmas it showed Chloe and Clark together. So maybe they will actually hook up next season since Lana is out of Clark's reach.
1.21 gigawatts
05-29-2006, 10:45 PM
Originally posted by PaulNeb
Sorry to break it to you, but both DC and Marvel rewrite canon on their longer running characters all the time. What appears on TV or in a movie may or may not accurately reflect the character in the comic. How many times have they rewritten Batman's origin for the movies???
Chloe doesn't have to be "Lois" to be Clark's soulmate. This is Smallville. Meteor capital of the world and home to more weird stuff than Carter's got little pills.
I voted Chloe cause she's the best for Clark. Lana is an anchor and Lois is a shrew.
Yeah, but DC Comics won't allow TPTB to change the final destinations of all the characters. Clark will end up with Lois. The real Lois-- Erica Durance. Lana will marry Pete. Lex will be evil and forever single.
The only reason they got away with Jonathan dying is because its being re-written into the mythos with the Infinite Crisis.
dhacker615
05-29-2006, 11:01 PM
Originally posted by 1.21 gigawatts
Yeah, but DC Comics won't allow TPTB to change the final destinations of all the characters. Clark will end up with Lois. The real Lois-- Erica Durance. Lana will marry Pete. Lex will be evil and forever single.
The only reason they got away with Jonathan dying is because its being re-written into the mythos with the Infinite Crisis.
Do you really think the folks at DC Comics have that much power?
The average weekly viewership for "Smallville" is somewhere around fifty times the monthly readership of Superman. I know that the other arms of Time Warner tend to defer to DC, I would guess that upsetting the comic audience is preferable to upsetting the TV audience (or the movie audience) from the perspective of the long-term health of the franchise.
Look, this summer we are going to see a version of Lois as a single Mom. My guess is that ten years from now it is more, or less, canon. Well... assuming the movie is as good as it looks.
Why can't Chloe be Clark's college girlfriend? They have a nice chemistry and it makes sense.
GatorTex
05-29-2006, 11:04 PM
Lois is way down the line as Clark's future heart throb. I see no problems with letting Chloe have a go (finally) at the Clarkster. It makes for interesting TV seeing Clark save Chloe for a change instead of Lana for upteenth billionth time!
batfinx
05-30-2006, 02:02 AM
Smallville's Lois is a miserable person with tremendous flaws unworthy of a second look by Superman
Smallville's Clark Kent is a miserable person with tremendous flaws, too, and is currently unworthy of being Superman. He's not at his final destination yet and neither is Lois. It's unfair to single out Lois as not being the iconic version of herself when Clark, the future Superman, is nowhere near his iconic self either.
Not a comic book fan, nor am I swayed by a cartoon view of what is good or bad in life or a person.
That's too bad, because canon is vital to any prequel of a known myth. You might not have liked the fact that Anikin Skywalker was destined to turn into Darth Vader, but it would have been ridiculous in the prequels if he didn't :lol:
Sorry to break it to you, but both DC and Marvel rewrite canon on their longer running characters all the time. What appears on TV or in a movie may or may not accurately reflect the character in the comic. How many times have they rewritten Batman's origin for the movies
There are core elements to an established myth that allows it to be a myth in the first place. Clark Kent becoming Superman, for example, is one of those core elements. Maybe Clark could grow up to become a taller Spider-man :lol: As for Batman's origin, a core element is that his parents were killed right in front of him when he was a child. He later became the "caped crusader" known as Batman. Any tweaking or embellishments they instituted between those two core events didn't change the fact that those elements are still there.
Clark came to Earth from the doomed planet Krypton. That is a core element and it happened on Smallville too. Smallville made it a very destructive arrival and caused mutants to be created by the kryptonite, but none of that changed the core element that he came to Earth from Krypton. Lois Lane and her ongoing relationship with Clark Kent and Superman are also core elements of the myth. Smallville has shown respect for the core elements so far. I have no reason to believe they'll start disrespecting them next year.
The average weekly viewership for "Smallville" is somewhere around fifty times the monthly readership of Superman. I know that the other arms of Time Warner tend to defer to DC, I would guess that upsetting the comic audience is preferable to upsetting the TV audience (or the movie audience) from the perspective of the long-term health of the franchise
That goes on the assumption that the "TV audience" would be upset if Clark and Chloe didn't hook up. Believe it or not there are people who aren't interested in Clark getting into another doomed romance no matter who it's with. That's too much like a soap opera.
The only thing 'interesting' about it, and this gets back to soap operas, is that Chloe is Lana's best friend and Chloe is Lois Lane's cousin. So we basically would have Chloe humping her best friend's ex and her cousin's future boyfriend/husband. I'm not saying AlMiles won't do it, but after the world has watched Superman Returns and he's in love with Lois in the movie, the Chloe hook up may seem a little sick to people who check out Smallville out of curiosity after seeing the movie.
I'm not going to get all melodramatic like some who swear they'll quit watching if they don't get what they want, but it's clear by the ratings this year that comic book elements and heroes like Aqua and Cyborg got more viewers than the relationships. Even Krypto got more viewers last year than the Chlark episode Blank and the Clana episode Ageless. X-Men made a ton of money over the weekend. Don't underestimate comic book appeal.
Speaking of which, Clark ends up with Lois ;)
FreakyDroid
05-30-2006, 06:06 AM
batfinx, word
PaulNeb
05-30-2006, 07:01 AM
Originally posted by 1.21 gigawatts
The only reason they got away with Jonathan dying is because its being re-written into the mythos with the Infinite Crisis.
Jonathan Kent died in the first Superman movie, and SV has borrowed heavily from the movies. That would leave the door open for events from the movies.
Also, the suits at DC can always use SV as a sounding board to float a radical idea like retooling Lois Lane, who really has not gotten the makeovers that Clark/Superman has. Yeah, sure, her wardrobe, hair and attitude have been changed to keep up with the times, but what meaningful changes have the made to Lois' character in 68 years? So maybe (big SWAG here) TPTB over at DC are toying with the idea of giving Lois a makeover and told AlMiles to take a shot at it.
Stranger things have happened.
Originally posted by batfinx
There are core elements to an established myth that allows it to be a myth in the first place. Clark Kent becoming Superman, for example, is one of those core elements. Maybe Clark could grow up to become a taller Spider-man :lol: As for Batman's origin, a core element is that his parents were killed right in front of him when he was a child. He later became the "caped crusader" known as Batman. Any tweaking or embellishments they instituted between those two core events didn't change the fact that those elements are still there.
Clark came to Earth from the doomed planet Krypton. That is a core element and it happened on Smallville too. Smallville made it a very destructive arrival and caused mutants to be created by the kryptonite, but none of that changed the core element that he came to Earth from Krypton. Lois Lane and her ongoing relationship with Clark Kent and Superman are also core elements of the myth. Smallville has shown respect for the core elements so far. I have no reason to believe they'll start disrespecting them next year.
Ok, you want to bring up "core elements" and I'll agree with you - to a point. Batman's core element is the Bruce Wayne's parents are killed and because of that, he becomes the Batman. Superman's core is that he was sent from the dying planet Krypton to Earth and has powers far beyond those of mortal men.
Now to dispute a few points. In both Superman mythos and Smallville, the young Kal-el was found by Jonathan and Martha Kent, who adopted him and named him Clark. In the Superman mythos, Clark becomes a disguise that Kal-el uses when he's not being "Superman". In Smallville, according to AlMiles, "Superman" will be the disguise that Clark uses and Clark doesn't consider himself to be Kal-el at this point. A reversal of the mode, to say the least, and a subtle change to a core element of Superman mythos.
Now let's talk about Lois...
Lois' claim to being a core element of the mythos is that she's been present since Action Comics #1. If you remove a core element, the character becomes unrecognizable. If you remove the Kents, you still have to have someone raising Clark and teaching him values that make him a hero or you don't have Superman. You can remove Lois Lane from the picture completely and you still have "Superman". He's still recognizable. He's still a hero that came to Earth from Krypton. He just isn't pie-eyed over some woman.
That would remove Lois as a "core element" and opens her character to revisions that might upset people, but don't substantially change who Superman is. Just like Batman is still Batman with or without Robin.
Watching Smallville
05-30-2006, 07:53 AM
Originally posted by dhacker615
I literally cannot understand the impulse to have Chloe transform into the "real Lois Lane". It is a pretty big put-down of Chloe Sullivan character, if you think about it. In her first few appearences, Chloe was a second-rate Lois clone. What has made her appealing to me as the years have worn on is that she has become a distinct character. The one redeeming factor in having the ED-version of Lois on the show has been seeing how different they really are at this point.
It was a smart decision to take Clark down a romantic road with Chloe, IMO, not because she is Lois. It is smart because she isn't. I've seen Lois & Clark bounce off each other literally a hundred times. At this point, I know the Clana backwards and forwards. Chloe and Clark as a couple is totally new. We have gotten hints here and there, but it is hard to know how it will play out.
That is interesting. Great post.
I agree. Something we've never seen before would be really interesting.
margroks
05-30-2006, 11:13 AM
Chloe was never a second rate anything. She's topnotch and has always wanted what Lois Lane has alweays wanted. To be a reporter at the Daily Planet. Add that to the fact that she's the best friend Clark ever had, that they have a relationship that mimics what Lois and Clark should be about and that she's every thing Lois should be and that Clark has always cared for her, was once falling for her until SHE brioke up with him in season one, and now he is once again realizing what a fantastic and beautiful woman she is...well...the choice is clear.
And I don't see that Chloe ending up being called Lois is anything but righteous. It's in no way disparaging of Chloe, just the way it was meant to be. Considering we now have the obvious Evil Lex and Lana willingly at his side while ignoring the bad things going on with him and around her and the contrast of Chloe and Clark rediscovering each other but willing to sacrifice to save the world in true heroic Lois and Clark fashion, it's even more obvious. Chloe is the girl he'll fly back to. It's time we see it on the screen.
Nois is immaterial.
myankskent
05-30-2006, 11:54 AM
Originally posted by margroks
Chloe was never a second rate anything. She's topnotch and has always wanted what Lois Lane has alweays wanted. To be a reporter at the Daily Planet. Add that to the fact that she's the best friend Clark ever had, that they have a relationship that mimics what Lois and Clark should be about and that she's every thing Lois should be and that Clark has always cared for her, was once falling for her until SHE brioke up with him in season one, and now he is once again realizing what a fantastic and beautiful woman she is...well...the choice is clear.
And I don't see that Chloe ending up being called Lois is anything but righteous. It's in no way disparaging of Chloe, just the way it was meant to be. Considering we now have the obvious Evil Lex and Lana willingly at his side while ignoring the bad things going on with him and around her and the contrast of Chloe and Clark rediscovering each other but willing to sacrifice to save the world in true heroic Lois and Clark fashion, it's even more obvious. Chloe is the girl he'll fly back to. It's time we see it on the screen.
Nois is immaterial.
Let's not get too ahead of ourselves here. Chloe and Clark are not rediscovering each other. They kissed, yes, but this whole concept of Chlark could be put to rest in the very first episode of season 6. There's just not enough to go on at this point other than the kiss, which can be looked at in millions of ways
gottaralane
05-30-2006, 12:30 PM
Originally posted by PaulNeb
Now let's talk about Lois...
Lois' claim to being a core element of the mythos is that she's been present since Action Comics #1. If you remove a core element, the character becomes unrecognizable. If you remove the Kents, you still have to have someone raising Clark and teaching him values that make him a hero or you don't have Superman. You can remove Lois Lane from the picture completely and you still have "Superman". He's still recognizable. He's still a hero that came to Earth from Krypton. He just isn't pie-eyed over some woman.
That would remove Lois as a "core element" and opens her character to revisions that might upset people, but don't substantially change who Superman is. Just like Batman is still Batman with or without Robin.
the thing is that when you think of Superman it cames with the whole pakage Lois, Lex . the Kents Metropolis ect.
You see a comic a movie a tv show where Clark is not with Lois and you'll say "what a hell happened here"
If you take out one of that elements is like be without a leg or a hand...yeah you could live that way but it won't be the same.
Clark is the head and Lois and Lex are the arms. Chloe being the new Lois Lane is like have an artificial hand......you'll never get used to that and you'll certanly will miss your original.
Many people love Lois, some people hate Lois but this one of the things that will never change .It´s being working for 60 years soo if something is good why would you change it
PaulNeb
05-30-2006, 01:04 PM
Originally posted by gottaralane
You see a comic a movie a tv show where Clark is not with Lois and you'll say "what a hell happened here"
And yet there's an incarnation of Superman in both print and TV where there's no Lois: Justice League. No "What the hell?" heard there.
Originally posted by gottaralane
Clark is the head and Lois and Lex are the arms. Chloe being the new Lois Lane is like have an artificial hand......you'll never get used to that and you'll certanly will miss your original.
Huh? Clark is Superman. Everyone else is a supporting player. Some play bigger roles than others, but none of them are indispensable. Lose one and the story will suffer, true, but not critically. If I had to rate any element outside of Clark as a core element, it would be the colective villians he must face. No one in particular, but all of them together. For the good hero to exist, there must be evil for him to battle and overcome. This is the essence of the heroic saga. A romantic interest for the hero is a nice extra, but not essential.
Originally posted by gottaralane
Many people love Lois, some people hate Lois but this one of the things that will never change .It´s being working for 60 years soo if something is good why would you change it
Just about everybody on this site loves Lois. What a lot of people have trouble swallowing is that the character played by ED is Lois, in spite of the name. The character is too different from the iconic one from the mythos to be beleivable to them. OTOH, the character played by AM is not named "Lois Lane", so a lot of other people can not accept that this character might be the love of Superman's life.
As for not changing things, yours is an old arguement that was heard at deafening levels when John Byrne took over Superman and rewrote his backstory. DC plays fast and loose with the history of their characters all the time. How many "Crisis" titles have there been? They have become little more than a media for revising history in the DC universe. Maybe now they are rewriting the backstory of "Superman's girlfriend" and changing her name. I can think of worse things that can (and have) been done in the past 68 years.
I'm figuring that SV has one or two seasons left. I'd rather see Clark with Chloe than Lois for that time. Watching EDLois and Clark together is like listening to a song played using a single key on a piano. At least with Chloe, we have a blank canvas on which to paint a picture.
myankskent
05-30-2006, 01:15 PM
The writers should just end any romantic feelings between Clark and Chloe next year. Have Clark reject her or whatever, I'm tired of the back and forth between Clark and Chloe. I wouldn't put these two together next season, because if they do and it lasts, making ED's Lois take over after Chloe is gone will seem like she is getting sloppy thirds after Clark has had romantic feelings for Lana and Chloe. Just leave Clark alone, leave Chloe alone, leave Lois alone, and start building up everyone's future.
PaulNeb
05-30-2006, 01:30 PM
Ummmm, Lois has already gotten sloppy thirds. Lana, Lori, and then Lois gets him. Worst case for Chloe would for her to be Clark's college love like Lori. Together for three of four years and then go their separate ways. Of course, Chloe's character development doesn't support that theory. I suppose they could use if for EDLois though.
:rotfl:
GatorTex
05-30-2006, 01:31 PM
Originally posted by myankskent
Just leave Clark alone, leave Chloe alone, leave Lois alone, and start building up everyone's future.
I can definitely see your point and if indeed this did happen, I wouldn't mind at all; however, if TPTB did pursue Clark and Chloe in a relationship, I think it could be well done. At least this time, Chloe would understand why they wouldn't be able to be together in the future when it did eventually break off and would part with no bitterness whatsoever .... unlike Lana. Lana has been the bane of Clark's existence to this point. Here's to hoping Chloe can woo him away from Lana!
myankskent
05-30-2006, 01:37 PM
Originally posted by GatorTex
I can definitely see your point and if indeed this did happen, I wouldn't mind at all; however, if TPTB did pursue Clark and Chloe in a relationship, I think it could be well done. At least this time, Chloe would understand why they wouldn't be able to be together in the future when it did eventually break off and would part with no bitterness whatsoever .... unlike Lana. Lana has been the bane of Clark's existence to this point. Here's to hoping Chloe can woo him away from Lana!
I don't think you can have another grand romance like that with Clark's character on this show. He loved Lana and wanted to spend the rest of his life with her, but could never tell her the truth. To then have Clark go and fall in love with Chloe as much as he loves Lana, that would be ridiculous if we are supposed to believe that Lois is the one true love of his life. Now I understand that people can fall in love with one person in their life, but when you have Lois in Smallville witnessing all of this Lana lusting and now Chloe lusting, it takes away from the Clois relationship in the future. It would be better if Lois wasn't on this show and she just met Clark at the Daily Planet, but Lois is too much a part of Clark's life now.
All about Clark
05-30-2006, 02:04 PM
To answer the original thread: Lois
I agree that Chlark shouldn't be the grand romance that was Clana. I just want Clark to have a romantic relationship that isn't riddled with lies and secrets so he can experience a good relationship even if it doesn't work out in the end. I think Chloe would either let him go or would die. I want Clark to learn how a good relationship should be, so that he doesn't mess up with Lois.
myankskent
05-30-2006, 02:16 PM
Originally posted by All about Clark
To answer the original thread: Lois
I agree that Chlark shouldn't be the grand romance that was Clana. I just want Clark to have a romantic relationship that isn't riddled with lies and secrets so he can experience a good relationship even if it doesn't work out in the end. I think Chloe would either let him go or would die. I want Clark to learn how a good relationship should be, so that he doesn't mess up with Lois.
Well to me, this relationship that Clark should have without lies should've been done with Lana after Reckoning, not with Chloe. Clark already knows that being honest with a person who knows about him doesn't work out, ie. Lana in Reckoning, Alicia. Clark will never be able to have a good relationship until he develops his cover as superman. This Chlark relationship has the makings of being a big waste of time, even more so than the Clana relationship given the timing of it, and could potentially ruin the ending of the show if there is a Clois hookup. So rather than watching Clark jump right into another relationship with a girl that he is notorious for hurting over the years, I'd rather see him patch things up with Lana over time and develop a solid relationship with Jor-El. Anything romantic at this point in time with anyone for Clark will continue to take his attention away from training, which is what everyone wants to see after he gets out of the phantom zone.
margroks
05-30-2006, 02:18 PM
The truth is, the door to a romance between Clark and Chloe has been open since late season one. I wish we'd gotten it long before now and not had to watch the hero moon over selfish little Lana Lang whose only thought is ever for herself and never for anyone else. End of Vessel? Proof of that. Lana runs to Lex while Metropolis burns and Chloe and Clark both sacrifice what they have to save the world. And that kiss and what it meant was as plain as it could be.
It's been a real waste of screen time to give such due to Lana Lang, selfish in every medium she's ever been in, who lacks any real redeeming social value and isn't at all worthy of Clark's attention even as a friend. We've had to suffer through this horrible Clana crap for five years and it should have been over a long time ago.
A romance between Clark and Chloe, who has always been what Lois Lane should be, is long overdue. They've left that door open for a reason, hinted at the possibility every season. That kiss was not at all a one shot; it's been coming all this time. Clark needs a real relationship with a strong, faithful woman who challenges and complements him as Chloe does. A girl who wouldn't get angry when Clark rushes off to save someone; instead she'd be there by his side trying to help.
Chloe is Lois and Lois is a pale shadow who could never hope to compare to Chloe as far as talent, initiative and smarts. We don't need the Not really Lois. Chloe fills the bill quite well, beautiful and gutsey and since she's always outshined Lana in the substance and sacrifice area anyway, it's time we see her with the hero, too. At his side as an equal where Chloe belongs.
Lois, the slacker who can't even stay in college when its handed to her, and gets nothing by her own hard work isn't even in the running. She isn't Lois at all and it would be a travesty is this woman ended up with Clark.
PaulNeb
05-30-2006, 02:40 PM
It seems to me that Superman's relationships have always been presented in the "finished" form. No development. On SV, we have development. With Lana, although it ended poorly. With Chloe, which is on the verge of becoming something beyond friendship. With Lois, maybe someday, but not before the series ends.
Clark had a crush on Lana for years before he got his chance at a relationship. Heck, he got several chances at a relationship with her and they all imploded. Lana's involvement with Lex will make them getting back together impossible.
Clark has known Chloe for years. They have become very good friends and are open and comfortable with each other. The biggest obstacle in Clark's relationship with Lana was her not knowing his secret. That isn't there with Chloe. Is it enough? I don't know, but I'd like to find out.
Clark has known Lois for a couple of years. They bicker constantly and she is rather critical of him. There are flashes which indicate that there may be more (at least there were in S4), but there's no interest on either one's part to take it anywhere.
Kyla was a "one episode wonder." She stumbled on Clark's secret and they had a brief affair. Even if she had not died, her politics would have driven a wedge between them.
Alicia, like Kyla stumbled across Clark's secret. Like Kyla, they had a brief affair. Alicia wasn't quite stable though. Her obsession earned her a stint in Belle Reve. Released as "cured", she still isn't quite stable. Her obsessive behavior would have split them up, eventually.
Of the five, two are dead, one is dating someone else and one isn't interested. That pretty much makes it a one horse race. Either it's going to be Chloe or no one.
gottaralane
05-30-2006, 02:54 PM
Well no one will be.
If romantic Chlark happens bye bye excellent/great what ever you want to call it Chlark friendship if they hock up and broke up their friendship will never will be the same
Besides al/miles and deknights said that Chloe is going to have another love interest next season
myankskent
05-30-2006, 03:05 PM
Originally posted by margroks
The truth is, the door to a romance between Clark and Chloe has been open since late season one. I wish we'd gotten it long before now and not had to watch the hero moon over selfish little Lana Lang whose only thought is ever for herself and never for anyone else. End of Vessel? Proof of that. Lana runs to Lex while Metropolis burns and Chloe and Clark both sacrifice what they have to save the world. And that kiss and what it meant was as plain as it could be.
It's been a real waste of screen time to give such due to Lana Lang, selfish in every medium she's ever been in, who lacks any real redeeming social value and isn't at all worthy of Clark's attention even as a friend. We've had to suffer through this horrible Clana crap for five years and it should have been over a long time ago.
A romance between Clark and Chloe, who has always been what Lois Lane should be, is long overdue. They've left that door open for a reason, hinted at the possibility every season. That kiss was not at all a one shot; it's been coming all this time. Clark needs a real relationship with a strong, faithful woman who challenges and complements him as Chloe does. A girl who wouldn't get angry when Clark rushes off to save someone; instead she'd be there by his side trying to help.
Chloe is Lois and Lois is a pale shadow who could never hope to compare to Chloe as far as talent, initiative and smarts. We don't need the Not really Lois. Chloe fills the bill quite well, beautiful and gutsey and since she's always outshined Lana in the substance and sacrifice area anyway, it's time we see her with the hero, too. At his side as an equal where Chloe belongs.
Lois, the slacker who can't even stay in college when its handed to her, and gets nothing by her own hard work isn't even in the running. She isn't Lois at all and it would be a travesty is this woman ended up with Clark.
So basically, because you had to suffer through Clana over the years, you feel that you deserve a reward and the reward should be romantic Clark. Ok, that's fine if you feel that way, you only got to see one of the greatest friendships in television history over the past year and a half, might as well get greedy and risk destroying it all. That makes a lot of sense. And your comments about Lana getting angry because Clark runs off to save someone are completely wrong. That has never happened while I have been watching this show, I don't know where you are getting that from. I can also bring up the fact that Lana saved Jonathan and Lois' life in Arrival by getting the disciples out of the hospital but that wouldn't mean anything to you.
All about Clark
05-30-2006, 03:24 PM
Originally posted by myankskent
Well to me, this relationship that Clark should have without lies should've been done with Lana after Reckoning, not with Chloe. Clark already knows that being honest with a person who knows about him doesn't work out, ie. Lana in Reckoning, Alicia. Clark will never be able to have a good relationship until he develops his cover as superman. This Chlark relationship has the makings of being a big waste of time, even more so than the Clana relationship given the timing of it, and could potentially ruin the ending of the show if there is a Clois hookup. So rather than watching Clark jump right into another relationship with a girl that he is notorious for hurting over the years, I'd rather see him patch things up with Lana over time and develop a solid relationship with Jor-El. Anything romantic at this point in time with anyone for Clark will continue to take his attention away from training, which is what everyone wants to see after he gets out of the phantom zone.
I don't agree, Lana has proven to not be worthy of the secret. He needs to be done with Lana.
Alicia didn't know he is alien or any of his issues with being alien so I don't think she counts.
I still think the Chlark relationship sets up his need for a separate identity. I think that Chlark is much more healthy relationship than Clana ever was and should have a chance for something more healthy so that Clark learns something from it.
myankskent
05-30-2006, 03:29 PM
Originally posted by All about Clark
I don't agree, Lana has proven to not be worthy of the secret. He needs to be done with Lana.
Alicia didn't know he is alien or any of his issues with being alien so I don't think she counts.
I still think the Chlark relationship sets up his need for a separate identity. I think that Chlark is much more healthy relationship than Clana ever was and should have a chance for something more healthy so that Clark learns something from it.
Well I agree with you about Lana now, after seeing her with Lex. I don't think that Clark needs to be in a relationship with Chloe in order to need a secret identity. She could die as a result of being his close friend and it would still have the same effect on him. Anyone close to Clark would be in danger, it's not a question of his girlfriend dying as a result of his secret, it has to do with anyone connected to Clark dying. Why do they have to be romantically involved in order for it to work?
All about Clark
05-30-2006, 03:36 PM
Cause there has to be romantic to use it against Clark.
There has to be some catalyst that brings Clark to needing a separate identity and how better than to have it Chloe dying or almost dying and leaving to set that up. What do you think will bring Clark to realizing he needs a separate identity if you don't think it is Chloe?
myankskent
05-30-2006, 03:43 PM
Originally posted by All about Clark
Cause there has to be romantic to use it against Clark.
There has to be some catalyst that brings Clark to needing a separate identity and how better than to have it Chloe dying or almost dying and leaving to set that up. What do you think will bring Clark to realizing he needs a separate identity if you don't think it is Chloe?
I think that it can be Chloe but I don't think that romance is needed. I think if Chloe dies, Clark realizes that his best friend who understood his secret better than anyone still died because she knew. By having Chloe be there for Clark every step of the way as a friend and not doing any irrational things to put herself in danger, Chloe would be the last person that Clark would expect to die. If she did anyway, Clark would certainly realize that he needs a cover. Here's the thing, if you make it only about his girfriend, you're eliminating his friends and family. To me, this has to be done to make Clark realize that everyone is in danger, not just his fiance in the case of Lana dying in Reckoning. That's why I'd like to stay away from the romance and keep things simple and without conflict and still have everything lead to Chloe's death.
I also have a perfect way for Chloe to die.
All about Clark
05-30-2006, 04:03 PM
See what I don't like about this is that it would alienate (no pun intended) Clark from even having friends. He would feel too separate from humans.
Plus if it was romantic it would have a greater impact on Clark.
FreakyDroid
05-30-2006, 04:08 PM
I dont think Clark will need a seperate identity just because of Chloe. He didnt need it so far and she's still alive. She was in the FoS with Brainiac, and he is aware that she knows his secret, and so does Lex. Her life was never put in danger because of knowing the secret, which IMO is quite amusing.
All about Clark
05-30-2006, 04:13 PM
Well Braniac doesn't consider Chloe anything important and Lex isn't really sure just yet.
The fact is that one expects you to tell everything to a loved one and not a friend. Lex can't hold anything over on Clark because Chloe is just a friend, based on Lex's thought patterns, I mean he would never risk his life for a friend but yes to a love one or potential loved one as in Lana. So with Lex's reasoning, it can't affect Clark by going after Chloe, based on his own distorted behaviors.
That's why if Chloe and Clark get together and it is public knowledge then Chloe becomes a target for someone like Lex.
myankskent
05-30-2006, 04:54 PM
Originally posted by All about Clark
See what I don't like about this is that it would alienate (no pun intended) Clark from even having friends. He would feel too separate from humans.
Plus if it was romantic it would have a greater impact on Clark.
But we've seen that already with Lana for the past 5 years and his decisions in Reckoning have effected his relationship with her. I don't think you need to restart another romantic relationship to just get to the point that Clark has already been at several times with Lana. Leaving it as a friendship would be a more dramatic way to do it and it would take what happened with Pete to a whole new level. I guess I shouldn't post the way I would like season 6 to go along with Chloe's death in this forum because this is just an episode discussion forum.
All about Clark
05-30-2006, 05:03 PM
Chloe's relationship with Clark will never be like Lana's, he has no reason to lie to Chloe.
See my previous post for more reasons.
batfinx
05-30-2006, 05:06 PM
Jonathan Kent died in the first Superman movie, and SV has borrowed heavily from the movies. That would leave the door open for events from the movies.
Actually in pre-Crisis comics both Kents died and in short order of each other. In the movies, AOS and the serials only Jonathan died. In other words, the Kents, similar to Lana, have only a limited function in the myth. Sometimes they belong only in his youth and in post-Crisis they survive to Clark becoming an adult, becoming Superman and marrying Lois Lane.
Also, the suits at DC can always use SV as a sounding board to float a radical idea like retooling Lois Lane, who really has not gotten the makeovers that Clark/Superman has. Yeah, sure, her wardrobe, hair and attitude have been changed to keep up with the times, but what meaningful changes have the made to Lois' character in 68 years? So maybe (big SWAG here) TPTB over at DC are toying with the idea of giving Lois a makeover and told AlMiles to take a shot at it.
That's illogical since Smallville does not deal with the iconic versions of Clark Kent, Lois Lane, or Lex Luthor yet. Maybe next year Lex will change Luthor Corp to Lex Corp and maybe Clark will learn to fly and Lois will show an interest in journalism, but at present all of the famous future characters are merely works in progress on Smallville.
Now to dispute a few points. In both Superman mythos and Smallville, the young Kal-el was found by Jonathan and Martha Kent, who adopted him and named him Clark. In the Superman mythos, Clark becomes a disguise that Kal-el uses when he's not being "Superman". In Smallville, according to AlMiles, "Superman" will be the disguise that Clark uses and Clark doesn't consider himself to be Kal-el at this point. A reversal of the mode, to say the least, and a subtle change to a core element of Superman mythos.
In pre-Crisis Superman is who he considered to be the real person and Clark Kent was the disguise, "and who, disguised as Clark Kent ...." In post-Crisis, AKA the John Byrne revamp (1985), he made Clark Kent the real guy and Superman was the disguise. I'm guessing you never saw Lois & Clark The New Adventures of Superman which was based on the Byrne revamp. On that show Clark Kent was the real person and Superman was the disguise. What doesn't change in either version is the core element that Clark Kent is Superman, regardless which is considered the disguise.
Lois' claim to being a core element of the mythos is that she's been present since Action Comics #1.
Wrong, she's a core element because she is who Clark/Superman ultimately loves through the ages and all eras. Their relationship has been a core element for nearly 70 years. Pre-Crisis or post-Crisis it's always Lois Lane. It's why she's hated by many Clana and Chlark fans and why Chlois fans want Chloe to be Lois. They at least understand the legendary relationship is a core element. According to AlMiles, they understand that too.
If you remove a core element, the character becomes unrecognizable. If you remove the Kents, you still have to have someone raising Clark and teaching him values that make him a hero or you don't have Superman.
Now you're talking about 'Elseworld' comics where they change something in the myth to see how Superman turns out. Like having his spaceship land in Gotham City and being raised by the Waynes. He becomes a dark vengeful super Batman. That is until he meets Lois Lane ;)
You can remove Lois Lane from the picture completely and you still have "Superman". He's still recognizable. He's still a hero that came to Earth from Krypton. He just isn't pie-eyed over some woman.
Yes, or you can take away Jane and still have Tarzan, but you have taken away a core element of the myth and its legendary romance. There is a point where a myth becomes a cultural fixture. If someone sees a man in a deerstalker cap smoking a pipe and peering through a magnifying glass, that person instantly identifies him as Sherlock Holmes, or else that person is so culturally devoid that he or she has never heard of the famous detective. Recognizing that simple description as Sherlock Holmes doesn't require that we read any of the novels or be a fan of the character. It just requires that we grow up in a culture where Sherlock Holmes has become a fixture. The same is true of Superman.
Without ever reading a comic book, seeing a movie or a TV show, we know that Clark Kent and Superman are the same person and that he loves Lois Lane. Even something seemingly insignificant like changing in a phone booth is so ingrained that it got a big laugh in the first Superman movie when Clark ran up to what appeared to be a phone booth during a closeup, but turned out to be just a small telephone stand so he had to change in a revolving door.
Prequels are driven by anticipation of seeing key elements of that myth appearing and of seeing a famous destiny unfold and of seeing a legendary romance begin. When you remove Lois Lane, you remove the legendary romance and so the anticipation is weakened.
Chloe was never a second rate anything. She's topnotch and has always wanted what Lois Lane has alweays wanted
To be a computer hacker? :lol:
And yet there's an incarnation of Superman in both print and TV where there's no Lois: Justice League. No "What the hell?" heard there
You're kidding me, right? When Lois got shot, the Justice League referred to her as "one of our own" being shot. Did you see Justice League Unlimited? Lois was on that too. What Justice League are you talking about? Remember the story where Clark forgot to take off his wedding band and was photographed as Superman wearing it? Remember what the Justice League did? Do you really read the comics?
I'm figuring that SV has one or two seasons left. I'd rather see Clark with Chloe than Lois for that time. Watching EDLois and Clark together is like listening to a song played using a single key on a piano. At least with Chloe, we have a blank canvas on which to paint a picture.
Chloe tells Clark what to do and what not to do and hacks into everything because he doesn't know how to do anything. He seems pretty whipped to me. So this new exciting direction will be Chloe being the brains of the outfit as usual and then some humping? Will she let Clark be on top sometimes? ;)
So basically, because you had to suffer through Clana over the years, you feel that you deserve a reward and the reward should be romantic Clark. Ok, that's fine if you feel that way, you only got to see one of the greatest friendships in television history over the past year and a half, might as well get greedy and risk destroying it all.
It always happens. Any time there's a male/female friendship someone always wants it to turn into a romance. Hell, I remember 'Clex' fans who wanted Clark and Lex's friendship to become a romance, or at the very least become sexual :lol:
If Clark and Chloe have a romance next year, so be it, but I feel like I made this same arguments last year when Clana fans were all hot and bothered by the kiss in the Commencement finale. You want Chloe to be Lois and they wanted the myth changed so that Lana and Clark end up together. The best I can hope for Chlark fans is they get a better breakup than Clana fans got.
myankskent
05-30-2006, 05:12 PM
Originally posted by All about Clark
Chloe's relationship with Clark will never be like Lana's, he has no reason to lie to Chloe.
See my previous post for more reasons.
Chloe is already a target by Lex though. You'd still be playing the relationship out the same way that they did with Clana. Lex finds out that Lana is engaged to Clark, he immediately assumes that Lana knows the truth. Lex finds out that Clark is with Chloe, he immediately assumes that Chloe knows something. It's the same thing, but Lex doesn't need to see Chloe and Clark together to assume that Chloe knows something. He already knows from Commencement.
Originally posted by batfinx
Prequels are driven by anticipation of seeing key elements of that myth appearing and of seeing a famous destiny unfold and of seeing a legendary romance begin. When you remove Lois Lane, you remove the legendary romance and so the anticipation is weakened.
To be a computer hacker? :lol:
Chloe tells Clark what to do and what not to do and hacks into everything because he doesn't know how to do anything. He seems pretty whipped to me. So this new exciting direction will be Chloe being the brains of the outfit as usual and then some humping? Will she let Clark be on top sometimes? ;)
It always happens. Any time there's a male/female friendship someone always wants it to turn into a romance. Hell, I remember 'Clex' fans who wanted Clark and Lex's friendship to become a romance, or at the very least become sexual :lol:
These points that I have quoted from your post are not only funny, but they are 100 percent true.
All about Clark
05-30-2006, 05:15 PM
No he is suspicious, he doesn't know for sure. And based on the fact is hasn't done anything because he is unsure relating to Clark is the same reason he hasn't done anything to Chloe.
myankskent
05-30-2006, 05:17 PM
Originally posted by All about Clark
No he is suspicious, he doesn't know for sure. And based on the fact is hasn't done anything because he is unsure relating to Clark is the same reason he hasn't done anything to Chloe.
So if that's the case, then Lex will have to see Chloe get engaged to Clark in order to figure out that she knows for sure. If Clark can lie to Lana for the duration of their relationship, he can certainly lie to Chloe as well.
PaulNeb
05-30-2006, 06:28 PM
Originally posted by batfinx
Do you really read the comics?
I gave it up when I was spending $100 a month, and I mainly read Marvel comics. If I had been reading DC too, it would have been $200. Plus I've never been enamoured with DC's endless rewrites and multiple universes.
And speaking of rewrites, no matter what happens, it's gonna be like the line from "Full Metal Jacket"
It's a big <censored> sandwich and we're all gonna have to take a bite.
Watching Smallville
05-30-2006, 06:52 PM
Originally posted by PaulNeb
Just about everybody on this site loves Lois. What a lot of people have trouble swallowing is that the character played by ED is Lois, in spite of the name. The character is too different from the iconic one from the mythos to be beleivable to them. I've never understood how ED Lois is different form the iconic Lois. She comes out swinging, she teases Clark, she's stubborn and strong willed. And she makes Clark smile that big grin. The only thing that's different is that she's not a reporter. But there's plenty of time for her to develop that interest.
KryptonChick
05-30-2006, 07:06 PM
Well call me the hopeless romantic, but if it was up to me, Clark would end up with his first love: Lana :D
PaulNeb
05-30-2006, 08:56 PM
Originally posted by Watching Smallville
But there's plenty of time for her to develop that interest.
Which leads to the next question: Then why is she on Smallville? If she's a destination in Clark's future, then why is she here now?
All about Clark
05-30-2006, 08:57 PM
Originally posted by Watching Smallville
I've never understood how ED Lois is different form the iconic Lois. She comes out swinging, she teases Clark, she's stubborn and strong willed. And she makes Clark smile that big grin. The only thing that's different is that she's not a reporter. But there's plenty of time for her to develop that interest.
Way to go, Watching Smallville. It is fun to watch them, isn't it. It's one of the few times Clark smiles.
Originally posted by margroks
The truth is, the door to a romance between Clark and Chloe has been open since late season one. I wish we'd gotten it long before now and not had to watch the hero moon over selfish little Lana Lang whose only thought is ever for herself and never for anyone else. End of Vessel? Proof of that. Lana runs to Lex while Metropolis burns and Chloe and Clark both sacrifice what they have to save the world. And that kiss and what it meant was as plain as it could be.
I noticed they set up the two couples dramatically in opposition to one another. We have the self-focused couple, with Lana stepping over the casualties to get to her man and the heck with the apocalypse around her, and we have the outward-focused, "save the world" couple with the knightly send-off. If this is just a set piece for the finale only, I have to question, why set it up? Even apart from my feeling as to who I'd like to see Clark end up with, I have to wonder why the writers would pitch the story to us this way if it's not supposed to be meaningful? I know they could make up their minds over the summer that there will be no romance after all, but with this kind of dramatic structure and the fact that Chloe is the one who knows and accepts him and has been pining for him for years, it would make it the worst kind of bait and switch.
gottaralane
05-30-2006, 10:43 PM
Originally posted by PaulNeb
Which leads to the next question: Then why is she on Smallville? If she's a destination in Clark's future, then why is she here now?
cause this show needed something fresh and new and what better than Lois Lane. It was only a matter of time that TPTB bring Lois
Just for a second imagine if Lois woudn't come in season 4. We would have Clark crying cause Lana is with another man (he did but at least was for about 5 episodes) like for the entery season.
We would had another season 3.
Lois was and is still the best way to keep Clark away of his problems, she makes him smile but also she makes him think beyond Lana (she don't know his secret so she can´t help him there) even Clark himself has said it
"There are times when I thimk you don´t know me at all...and there are other when I think you know me better than anybody"
Better than Chloe who is his best friend, better than his on and off girlfriend and better than his MOM.
I think that quote lead us to know who really is the best girl for Clark
myankskent
05-30-2006, 11:09 PM
Originally posted by gottaralane
cause this show needed something fresh and new and what better than Lois Lane. It was only a matter of time that TPTB bring Lois
Just for a second imagine if Lois woudn't come in season 4. We would have Clark crying cause Lana is with another man (he did but at least was for about 5 episodes) like for the entery season.
We would had another season 3.
Lois was and is still the best way to keep Clark away of his problems, she makes him smile but also she makes him think beyond Lana (she don't know his secret so she can´t help him there) even Clark himself has said it
"There are times when I thimk you don´t know me at all...and there are other when I think you know me better than anybody"
Better than Chloe who is his best friend, better than his on and off girlfriend and better than his MOM.
I think that quote lead us to know who really is the best girl for Clark
I agree. I want to see more of Lois next season. This Chlark relationship has nowhere to go. I have already watched one season of Chloe holding Clark's hand the whole way, I don't need to see another.
Watching Smallville
05-30-2006, 11:10 PM
Originally posted by gottaralane
cause this show needed something fresh and new and what better than Lois Lane. Couldn't have said it better. :)
All about Clark
05-30-2006, 11:11 PM
Originally posted by myankskent
So if that's the case, then Lex will have to see Chloe get engaged to Clark in order to figure out that she knows for sure. If Clark can lie to Lana for the duration of their relationship, he can certainly lie to Chloe as well.
Lana wasn't in trouble with Lex because she got engaged, but because he knew her well enough to know she would never say yes without knowing the secret.
It's different with Chloe, Lex doesn't really know Chloe like he knows Lana. Lex would have to see something Chloe does to protect Clark to get the vibe he had with Lana. There would be more to it than just an engagement, however, I don't expect Chlark to get that far.
Watching Smallville
05-30-2006, 11:15 PM
Originally posted by All about Clark
It's different with Chloe, Lex doesn't really know Chloe like he knows Lana. Lex would have to see something Chloe does to protect Clark to get the vibe he had with Lana. There would be more to it than just an engagement, however, I don't expect Chlark to get that far. I was thinking Lex already believes that Chloe knows about Clark. But there's somthing about her that makes him watch his step. Maybe the way she dispatched his father in season 3 is making him hesitate, or at least proceed with caution.
gottaralane
05-30-2006, 11:21 PM
I think is more like Lex is focous in other things than in Clark's secret. If this season were like the first 3 seasos I bet Lex would be alredy after Chloe but the truth is that the only time that he was truly behind Clark was Reckoning and then nothing he just forget about Clark and his secrets and started to work in other evil stuff....Cyborg the thing that kill all the fishes the virus etc
He just hadn't the time to think about it
PaulNeb
05-31-2006, 08:59 AM
Originally posted by gottaralane
cause this show needed something fresh and new and what better than Lois Lane. It was only a matter of time that TPTB bring Lois
I'm not 100% convinced that brining in Lois was something that AlMiles wanted to do. Their hand may have been forced. Admittedly, introducing EDLois stirred the pot tremendously, but I still don't see why is was necessary. Seasons 4 and 5 could have been written without the character of Lois Lane and still have followed the storyline that AlMiles wanted.
Lana still would have been possessed by Isabel. The global hunt for the elements would still have gone on. Jason would still have turned out the way he did. Lana still would have killed Genevive. Lionel and Clark would still have changed bodies in prison. Clark would still have gotten involved with Alicia. Chloe would still have learned Clark's secret. The meteor shower still happens. Jonathan Kent still dies. Zod still gets released. Etcetera, etcetera, etcetera. Yes, a number of scenes would be different, but the main story would be unchanged.
At which point I will ask again: Why was the character of Lois Lane introduced?
Originally posted by gottaralane
"There are times when I thimk you don´t know me at all...and there are other when I think you know me better than anybody"
The writers have been throwing Clois anvels around for two years now. Why stop now? If you stick to the mythos, Clark will end up with Lois eventually, so why have her here now? The storyline doesn't need her.
Now here's a thought. Subtract Lois from Season 4 and 5. Who does Chloe send the tape to? Clark? No, he's in Smallville and would already knows what happened. What about Pete? He's out of town, is Chloe's friend, and would come storming back to town to figure out what happened. This changes little of the main story thread, because in all but a handful of scenes, Pete would be able to be dropped in where Lois used to be. Pete in the comics goes into politics, so he's a natural for taking over Jonathan's campaign and becoming Martha's CoS.
And, as an extra bonus feature for the anti-Chlarkers, he's an easy way to keep Clark and Chloe apart. Clark/Chloe/Pete triad. Gives the writes a lot to play with. Will Pete win the heart of our fair reporter? Tune in the other universe! :rotfl:
Whoever it is, Chloe deserves a NICE boyfriend much more than Lana.
Just a thought!
PaulNeb
06-01-2006, 07:47 PM
Originally posted by azi
Whoever it is, Chloe deserves a NICE boyfriend much more than Lana.
Clark's nice.
gottaralane
06-02-2006, 06:57 AM
yeah Clark is nice but not for her
LusciousLois
06-02-2006, 04:11 PM
Me, of course!
chlarklove
06-02-2006, 11:44 PM
Originally posted by batfinx
That's illogical since Smallville does not deal with the iconic versions of Clark Kent, Lois Lane, or Lex Luthor yet. <snip> but at present all of the famous future characters are merely works in progress on Smallville.
Then, what IS the point of the show? I mean, if they don't deal with the "iconic" versions of the characters, YET, then why did they ever make a show about a YOUNG Clark Kent and Lex Luthor and inevitably Lois Lane (Chloe Sullivan)?
I just don't get this.
It's why she's hated by many Clana and Chlark fans and why Chlois fans want Chloe to be Lois. They at least understand the legendary relationship is a core element. According to AlMiles, they understand that too.
This is ridiculous and you very well know it since you've posted in the Chlois thread.
It goes WAY BEYOND wanting Chloe to be Lois just because Chloe would get Clark in the end. That's just the icing on the cake for me, and for a majority of the Chloisers as well. It's the fact that I love Lois Lane. She's PASSIONATE, INTELLIGENT, DRIVEN, AMBITIOUS, A TRUTH SEEKER, someone who fought hard to prove herself in a "man's world"... it's traits like those that make her an ICON. Make her a role model for young women. Those traits are exhibited in only ONE of the young women on Smallville. Can you guess who that is? It certainly isn't the HS flunkie, college expellee, nepotistic slacker, who'd rather play video games and have other people do the "dirty" work than herself.
That woman who exhibits those traits, (it's the reason why casual viewers think she's Lois), is Chloe Sullivan.
Yes, or you can take away Jane and still have Tarzan, but you have taken away a core element of the myth and its legendary romance. There is a point where a myth becomes a cultural fixture. If someone sees a man in a deerstalker cap smoking a pipe and peering through a magnifying glass, that person instantly identifies him as Sherlock Holmes, or else that person is so culturally devoid that he or she has never heard of the famous detective. Recognizing that simple description as Sherlock Holmes doesn't require that we read any of the novels or be a fan of the character. It just requires that we grow up in a culture where Sherlock Holmes has become a fixture. The same is true of Superman.
*Claps* Wow. I think you just proved one of our points.
Could this be the reason why there's so many casual viewers (and maybe some not so obsessed onliners like us lol) who are questioning Chloe actually being Lois? I mean, she's WORKING at the Daily Planet and wants to be a reporter, has gotten a byline on the FRONT PAGE already. Has this amazing partnership/friendship with Clark and knows his secret. The only thing missing is the name, her hair is blonde, and the romance aspect. Which *gasp* seems to have all been changed now from the events of the finale! :p Not to mention the fact that hey, Clark was "in love" with Lana for several years.
Prequels are driven by anticipation of seeing key elements of that myth appearing and of seeing a famous destiny unfold and of seeing a legendary romance begin. When you remove Lois Lane, you remove the legendary romance and so the anticipation is weakened.
Smallville IS NOT a prequel. It's the "Superman story you couldn't know... until now!"
To be a computer hacker? :lol:
Wait a minute.. I must have missed something. Can you state where on the show she has said it's her life's dream slash DESTINY to be a computer hacker for me please? Cause that's a little foggy for me. Oh that's right cause it never happened. :p :D
Look, her skillz were overdone this season most of us admit that. That doesn't negate the fact that the girl has been HONING them since SEASON ONE/TWO! That's "character progression." She's just gotten better at it. And yeah, it was used far too often, but hey.. they need to use Allison/Chloe to advance the plot... which, they've ALWAYS done since day one.
Chloe tells Clark what to do and what not to do and hacks into everything because he doesn't know how to do anything. He seems pretty whipped to me. So this new exciting direction will be Chloe being the brains of the outfit as usual and then some humping? Will she let Clark be on top sometimes? ;)
But if it was "Lois" telling Clark what to do and being the brains where he'd be whipped, that'd be okay right?
See, this is kinda what irks me. It's cause she's got the "name" and that's what she's "supposed to do" is what makes it okay. But since it's Chloe who's the one that's being Clark's sounding board and urging him along (which I don't think she's telling him what to do at all, sometimes she does and she has in the past.. she does it when he NEEDS IT that's what's important, but that's JMO), being his confidante, basically being in the role of Lois Lane wrt to their relationship, it's somehow this horrible awful sucktastic thing? Okay then.
Hoshi_Reed
06-03-2006, 03:45 PM
I've never understood how ED Lois is different form the iconic Lois. She comes out swinging, she teases Clark, she's stubborn and strong willed. And she makes Clark smile that big grin. The only thing that's different is that she's not a reporter. But there's plenty of time for her to develop that interest.
Then the ultimate question is: Who is Lois Lane to you?
When you strip away the name and the profession, what you have?
To me it is her drive, her passion, her intelligence, her compassion, her work ethic, her determination, ambitiousness and tenacity.
She tells those truths that others won’t just like Superman fights the villains and saves the people
they both defend the weak, protect the innocent and stand against that which is evil.
She is just as much a passionate crusader for and a symbol of truth and justice as Superman is.
She is a representation of humanity
Journalism is just way to represent who she is. Her core characteristics made manifest.
Chloe, Though she has always been pursuing journalism as a career, has ALSO always been searching for truth and justice. She used her WOW and the Torch and the Chronicles to tell the truth about Smallville, about the meteor freaks, etc. She didn't do it out of curiosity or journalistic ambition, but because she wants to do the right thing. She wants to defend the weak, she wants to protect the innocent, and she wants to stand against that which is wrong. THAT is why she is Lois Lane.
Watching Smallville
06-04-2006, 07:28 AM
Who Lois is to me is more than what she does. It's also how she does it. Lois is largely her personality, from my point of view. And personalityi-wise, ED's character is written as Lois. Tough, hard-headed, wise-cracking. I don't see these traits in Chloe. And Lois has showed us that she a fighter for good -- through her work for Jonathan, her escapades with Chloe, her fondness for AC, and in many other ways. Plus she has shown a keen insight into Clark, without mooning over him, which is so refreshing.
I love Chloe, but her personality is very different from the person I've come to think of as Lois. The question for me would be why Clark doesn't end up with Chloe, because they do seem to be a good fit.
FreakyDroid
06-04-2006, 08:44 AM
^Amen sista!
LusciousLois
06-04-2006, 10:31 AM
Originally posted by Watching Smallville
I've never understood how ED Lois is different form the iconic Lois. She comes out swinging, she teases Clark, she's stubborn and strong willed. And she makes Clark smile that big grin. The only thing that's different is that she's not a reporter. But there's plenty of time for her to develop that interest.
You are absolutely right! And she will develop and interest in journalism. And remember, Lois is terrible at spelling, this one is too. She is the TRUE Lois. People just need to deal with it.
jack1487
06-05-2006, 03:16 PM
(!) Then the ultimate question is: Who is Lois Lane to you?
When you strip away the name and the profession, what you have?
To me it is her drive, her passion, her intelligence, her compassion, her work ethic, her determination, ambitiousness and tenacity.
She tells those truths that others won’t just like Superman fights the villains and saves the people
they both defend the weak, protect the innocent and stand against that which is evil.
She is just as much a passionate crusader for and a symbol of truth and justice as Superman is.
She is a representation of humanity
Journalism is just way to represent who she is. Her core characteristics made manifest.
Chloe, Though she has always been pursuing journalism as a career, has ALSO always been searching for truth and justice. She used her WOW and the Torch and the Chronicles to tell the truth about Smallville, about the meteor freaks, etc. She didn't do it out of curiosity or journalistic ambition, but because she wants to do the right thing. She wants to defend the weak, she wants to protect the innocent, and she wants to stand against that which is wrong. THAT is why she is Lois Lane. [/B]
Originally posted by LusciousLois
You are absolutely right! And she will develop and interest in journalism. And remember, Lois is terrible at spelling, this one is too. She is the TRUE Lois. People just need to deal with it.
Yes, I think that SV Lois is right on traget plus ED does an outstanding playing her. If you go back to the old radio and TV shows you can see the Lois that has been written for ED that same snapy way and that jump into it without looking attitude.
Chole on the other hand is layed back and more into just being there for Clark almost like a brother and sister would be, on the other hand Lois is out make sure Clark keeps on his toes and will not give him a moment of peace, as it should be, and personally I like what they have done with the character it makes her IMO seem real.
Jack
red-K glory
06-05-2006, 11:22 PM
Clark should definitely end up with Chloe. She knows his secret, she keeps it pretty well, she is trustworthy, she is always there for Clark, she respects Clark and doesn't hate him (like Lana) when he lets her down, she is hot, she is simply perfect!
love_sv
06-06-2006, 05:58 AM
Originally posted by red-K glory
Clark should definitely end up with Chloe. She knows his secret, she keeps it pretty well, she is trustworthy, she is always there for Clark, she respects Clark and doesn't hate him (like Lana) when he lets her down, she is hot, she is simply perfect!
Took the words right out of my mouth!
RPMSDB
06-06-2006, 12:49 PM
I voted Chloe. At least in the world of Smallville.
kkjdt
06-07-2006, 11:33 PM
I so agree!!
gemini
06-08-2006, 01:22 PM
On smallville CHLOE
kazek
06-10-2006, 06:49 PM
Lois obviously.
In the fourth episode of the season. The one featuring aquaman, lois had a thing aquaman. But unfortunately for her, he had to leave smallville because lex was after him.
towards the end of the episode Lois was talking to Clark and she was like, "I've known a lot of guys who wanna own the world, I haven't met very many who actually wanna save it. " she sighs and then says " how am I ever gonna met someone like that again."
Clark then says, " Lois I promise, someday, you'll meet someone even more special."
now isn't that obvious. That conversation said it all. Clark is ending up with Lois.
PaulNeb
06-10-2006, 07:50 PM
Originally posted by kazek
now isn't that obvious. That conversation said it all. Clark is ending up with Lois.
That's one of the vauge Clois anvils they throw in to muddy the waters. Clark said "someone". That doesn't automatically equal "me".
Where's the fun if things are too obvious?
amberdawn
06-10-2006, 07:57 PM
I think almost everyone took that as meaning someday it will be Clark.
FreakyDroid
06-10-2006, 09:24 PM
Originally posted by PaulNeb
That's one of the vauge Clois anvils they throw in to muddy the waters. Clark said "someone". That doesn't automatically equal "me".
Where's the fun if things are too obvious?
Well not everybody sees Smallville as a novel by Agatha Christie :D j/k
Don't forget, life is sweet because of the simple things
kazek
06-11-2006, 06:25 AM
Originally posted by FreakyDroid
Well not everybody sees Smallville as a novel by Agatha Christie :D j/k
Don't forget, life is sweet because of the simple things
well said.....
I'm way too certain he's ending up with Lois. It's a simple drama.
this isn't 24..
D.M.A.
06-11-2006, 08:03 PM
true we all knows he ends up wit lois in the long run but here on sv I say chloe.Besides I think she deserves to have what she always wanted at this point,so hopefully chloe.
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