No gift from Chloe?

[ms.c.]

Did anyone else find it very weird that Chloe didn't give Clark a birthday gift?
Since when does money matter on the show? They always have the characters own things or do things they couldn't possibly afford. And even if Chloe is cash poor right now, there is no way she wouldn't get him a card or a gift that doesn't cost very much money like a book or a CD.

I can't think of something off the top of my head, but I'm sure if I gave it some thought there are lots of things she could have gifted Clark that wouldn't have cost much money. That really bugged me that they didn't have Chloe give him a gift. It was totally out of character for Chloe since she spends so much time with Clark and it's clear he is the most important person in her life. Heck, she could have MADE him a card.

[Another-One]

I found it a bit odd as well.

It's like halmark cards are only like a dollar.

[Watching Smallville]

It seemed OOC to me, too. Maybe Lois should have let Chloe bake the cake.:D

[Rafael122]

Hasn't Chloe done enough? If it weren't for her, Clark would be borderline stupid right now.

[EricN68]

It was a great reminder to the viewers of all that Chloe has already done for Clark.

[Watching Smallville]

But it's his birthday... :( It's not like Clark hasn't done a lot for Chloe, too.

It didn't really bother me. But I thought it was a little weird. And not necessary to the scene. So why did they have Chloe not get a gift...? Hmmmm....

[ms.c.]

Clark and Chloe do favors/nice things for each other. If Clark hadn't given Chloe a birthday gift because he was poor, I would have been annoyed, too. Not even a card or a token present? Something to just be sweet?

That was bizarre, out of character and I didn't like it. I just don't think you show up to a birthday party empty handed, much less your best friend's birthday party. Chloe should have had something.

[BadToad]

I just see Clark and Chloe's relationship as so far beyond birthday presents, and judging by her line about "I.O.U's", this pattern has been going on with them for a while. I love the smile he gave her.

[Daphne]

She should have made him a card.

[Billy Jor-El]

Perhaps she did have a gift, just something not dealt with in the time constraints of the show. I like to think her gift was a hot lingerie outfit that she wanted to model for him...privately :D

And hey, Birthday Boy!!! Where was Shelby??????

[Watching Smallville]

Originally posted by BadToad
I just see Clark and Chloe's relationship as so far beyond birthday presents, and judging by her line about "I.O.U's", this pattern has been going on with them for a while. I love the smile he gave her.
Maybe that was the point they were tryiing to make. I can go with that. :)


Originally posted by Billy Jor-El
And hey, Birthday Boy!!! Where was Shelby??????
Shelby may not always be around when you want him, but he's always there when you need him.

[alienkinfolk]

Originally posted by BadToad
I just see Clark and Chloe's relationship as so far beyond birthday presents, and judging by her line about "I.O.U's", this pattern has been going on with them for a while.

agreed!
I was at first baffled by chloe not giving a gift, but i do understand her sentiment in the I.O.U's because in that case their always giving gifts to each other. Like the biggest gift is the new level of their friendship this season. And i guess if the writers had chloe gift him, her gift would of taken away from the "lois moment" they were creating.

[milton fine]

geez you guys open your eyes there were more gifts on the table one of them must have been chloes and marthas the only ones we see is lois gift and johnathans so dont just asum chloe didnt give him a gift just becuse they didnt show it

[KEakaCK]

Chloe's gift to Clark was something beyond a tangible gift. Her friendship, loyalty, and lending shoulder is more than enough for Clark. She has been a crucial figure in Clarks life this season...Especially after his fathers death.

[Lara Lane]

I agree there were more presents on the table and Chloe's might have been between them, but I also agree that Chlo and Clark's relationships go beyond gifts and Clark wouldn't be mad at her over something like that.

[Watching Smallville]

Originally posted by milton fine
geez you guys open your eyes there were more gifts on the table one of them must have been chloes and marthas the only ones we see is lois gift and johnathans so dont just asum chloe didnt give him a gift just becuse they didnt show it
Ooops -- did we lose some posts? A few people had posted that Chloe was comping some I.O.U.s -- she said herself that she didn't bring a present.

[mortalreckoning]

Originally posted by Watching Smallville
Ooops -- did we lose some posts? A few people had posted that Chloe was comping some I.O.U.s -- she said herself that she didn't bring a present.

I thought I had, but it was another thread I'd posted it in :lol:

[photogirl]

It's Chloe...there was no need for a present, because she's always there for him...it didn't really bother me and I loved the way he smiled at her... Clark wouldn't be upset with her for not buying him a gift...not in a million years!! I was delighted with the Chlark in that scene!

[Summers]

I thought it was unpolite. It's a b-day party. It's not only polite, but respectful to give a person a card. Heck, if money was such a pain she could have gave him an e-card. They are free off of Hallmark's website :rolleyes:. Presents should never be about I.O.U. never. It's shows appreciation for that person, and a simple card can do just that. It's not the present/card that counts, but the consideration and thought of doing it.

[LuckyKrypto]

Originally posted by Summers
I thought it was unpolite. It's a b-day party. It's not only polite, but respectful to give a person a card. Heck, if money was such a pain she could have gave him an e-card. They are free off of Hallmark :rolleyes:.

LOL:lol: If I were Clark I would've wanted one of her I can access any computer data system in the world card:lol:

[Summers]

:rotfl:

Clark: Chloe ever heard of War Games?

[LuckyKrypto]

:lol: :lol: so true.....:lol:

[savingpeoplething]

I wrote about this in another thread, but I'll say something about it here as well.
I rewatched "Oracle" and noticed a line I had previously overlooked (probably because I was trying to recover from the absurdity that was the Clark / Lois loft moment)...

Chloe to Clark (as she sits down next to him after Lois leaves):
"You handled the whole party thing really well, by the way."

This, from the dialogue, is to remind us that Clark doesn't do birthdays. I remember something about this coming up when Lana brings him the cake in the loft back in Season 2. I'll have to go back and watch that again (could very well be wrong, but I think it's something regarding how he doesn't know exactly what his birthdate is so that's why he doesn't celebrate it), but it now makes sense to me as to why Chloe doesn't get him anything...she knows that he's not up to it.
I'd like to think of it this way that Chloe knows Clark so well that she would choose not to participate in something that bothers him.

[Krypton935]

ya know you got a really good point there I overlooked that but what you are saying makes complete sense. nice observation

[LuckyKrypto]

Originally posted by savingpeoplething
I wrote about this in another thread, but I'll say something about it here as well.
I rewatched "Oracle" and noticed a line I had previously overlooked (probably because I was trying to recover from the absurdity that was the Clark / Lois loft moment)...

Chloe to Clark (as she sits down next to him after Lois leaves):
"You handled the whole party thing really well, by the way."


You make an interesting point. I thought that she was refering to him being surprised, you know because of the whole super hearing thing. But maybe you're right.

[MBCorp]

Originally posted by savingpeoplething
I wrote about this in another thread, but I'll say something about it here as well.
I rewatched "Oracle" and noticed a line I had previously overlooked (probably because I was trying to recover from the absurdity that was the Clark / Lois loft moment)...

Chloe to Clark (as she sits down next to him after Lois leaves):
"You handled the whole party thing really well, by the way."

This, from the dialogue, is to remind us that Clark doesn't do birthdays. I remember something about this coming up when Lana brings him the cake in the loft back in Season 2. I'll have to go back and watch that again (could very well be wrong, but I think it's something regarding how he doesn't know exactly what his birthdate is so that's why he doesn't celebrate it), but it now makes sense to me as to why Chloe doesn't get him anything...she knows that he's not up to it.
I'd like to think of it this way that Chloe knows Clark so well that she would choose not to participate in something that bothers him.

Actually I think she was just referring to Jonathan's card when she mentioned that he'd handled the party well.

[Summers]

So did I. Since you can he was all fine and well before he read his dad's card.

[LovelyLoisLane]

Maybe Chloe decorated the cake? I thought it was odd too. I mean how much was Lois' gift, maybe at the most thirty dollars if it was real leather bound. Chloe could have got him a plaid shirt at Wal Mart for like ten bucks, lol.

No but that was weird that she didn't give him a card, with maybe an IOU inside the card. Oh well, I still think it was nice that she even went considering that Clark had only three people at his birthday party. What happened to all those jocks and cheerleaders that he befriended last year? Did they all get killed in the meteorshower or move to the real Kansas? :P

[liana]

Hum... Not exactly. He said to Lana his parents never celebrated it because they didn't know when he was born. But he was truly glad about Lana making him a cake. In fact, he was so touched she remembered that Martha told him afterwards she was sorry they never celebrated it before. She explained that they were always so afraid he would be taken away from them. That was more or less the whole birthday issue. So, this was never about Clark not liking birthday parties only that his parents never celebrated it before.

[LovelyLoisLane]

Originally posted by savingpeoplething
I'd like to think of it this way that Chloe knows Clark so well that she would choose not to participate in something that bothers him.

I disagree. The person that really knows him the best, his Mother, had the party for him in the first place. Are we saying that Chloe is more sensitive to Clark's feelings than his own Mother ? Really given that she brought up the birthday issue way back when so the writers could make Lana look better by being the only one to celebrate his birthday. Clark didn't seem to mind back then either and he didn't this time until he got his Dad's card. I assume that is what she [Chloe] meant by her statement, especially since the writing rarely goes much deeper than the obvious.

I don't think Clark was upset by having a very small party.
I don't think Chloe thought Clark was upset by having a very small party and didn't give Clark a gift because she thought he would be upset.
I don't think Lois was a jerk for getting Clark a present.
I don't think Martha was a jerk for having a small party.

All three ladies probably thought it would cheer him up from his Lana/Lexana blues. I also think Clark may have actually been surprised, because if he had a lot on his mind then he wouldn't be paying attention to things.


Originally posted by liana
Hum... Not exactly.

Who are you responding to with the "Not exactly"? I didn't say anything about Clark not liking birthday parties, so I know it wasn't me.

[jaime,oburg]

I thought it was stranged also. Maybe a card or something, but Chloe knows how Clark doesn't like to do the whole birthday thing, so maybe she didn't want to make a big deal.:confused:

[liana]

Originally posted by LovelyLoisLane
Who are you responding to with the "Not exactly"? I didn't say anything about Clark not liking birthday parties, so I know it wasn't me.

To savingpeoplething. When I started writing my post, he was the last one who posted. Sorry if you thought I was answering you. I probably should have quoted him, but I didn't expect so many answers to the thread so quickly.

[LovelyLoisLane]

Originally posted by jaime,oburg
I thought it was stranged also. Maybe a card or something, but Chloe knows how Clark doesn't like to do the whole birthday thing, so maybe she didn't want to make a big deal.:confused:

I'lll agree that birthday present for anyone aren't really a big deal, but I disagree that Clark doesn't like birthdays. He just wasn't used to them before Lana gave him a cake way back in "Calling" What was said in that episode was that Martha and Jonathan never celebrated it because Clark's 'birthday' was just a date they picked out on the adoption records but later she told Lana she thought that they should celebrate it because it was day to celebrate when Clark came into their lives. I hated that because it seemed to make Martha look bad so Lana could be the only one to give Clark anything for his birthday.

This birthday however there was cake and ALOT of present form all three ladies I'm sure. I'm not positive that Chloe didn't give him a gift in hindsight, we just didn't see it. Like we didn't see Lois and Clark giving Chloe the typewriter back in Spell except in a deleted scene that wasn't aired. Nonetheless he enjoyed it, and he enjoyed this one too until he got the card from his father, and that seemed upset him but he didn't show it too badly, which is what I'm sure Chloe meant by telling him he handled it well, given that right after that he said that 'the tickets hit him harder than he imagined"


Originally posted by liana
To savingpeoplething. When I started writing my post, he was the last one who posted. Sorry if you thought I was answering you. I probably should have quoted him, but I didn't expect so many answers to the thread so quickly.

No I knew you weren't answering me because my post before that one didn't say anything like that in it. I was just confused as to what comment you were responding to. Thanks for clearing that up.

[spideyfan]

Maybe he will get his gift when everyone is sleeping. Maybe he wont. Who knows?

ANyway, I am fine with her not giving a gift but a card would have been settling.

[eyeroller]

Actually, there was a whole five minute segment they edited out for time constraints of Chloe giving Clark a gift. It was a hard cut because it's SO important to the show and the plot, actually the whole season for the viewer to see this singular significant event. That ONE moment would have changed the whole course of the past 5 seasons, but they just couldn't fit it in. And what's with them not showing the whole 'girlfriend' conversation between Lois and Lana? That was huge as well.:rolleyes:

[milton fine]

then who got clark the gifts that were on the table if chole didnt get him any thing i doubt martha got all thos gifts and i doubt lex and lana would buy him gifts. im referring to the gifts in bags. we see lois gift and then his fathers and there are extra gifts in bags and we dont see what they are or who there from. so im guessing there from his mother and chole. plus i think chloe was kidding about the i o u thing

i didnt mean to make a big deal out of this but i hate it when people say she would never buy him a present or there friendship is beyond gifts. come on if there true friends there gonna buy gifts for each other its just what friends do. and like what i said just becuse you didnt see it dosent mean it didnt happen

[bluegayle]

Originally posted by ms.c.
Did anyone else find it very weird that Chloe didn't give Clark a birthday gift?
Since when does money matter on the show? They always have the characters own things or do things they couldn't possibly afford. And even if Chloe is cash poor right now, there is no way she wouldn't get him a card or a gift that doesn't cost very much money like a book or a CD.


I think it was set up so that the diary gift by Lois could be the focus.

I found it odd also that neither Chloe nor Martha gave him anything.


Originally posted by milton fine

i didnt mean to make a big deal out of this but i hate it when people say she would never buy him a present or there friendship is beyond gifts. come on if there true friends there gonna buy gifts for each other its just what friends do. and like what i said just becuse you didnt see it dosent mean it didnt happen

i agree with your first part that Chloe would have given him a physical gift even if she could cash in her IOUs.

but one thing i've learned from Smallville...if they didn't show it or talk about it, it didn't happen.
Eg Chloe knows all about where the kryptonites are kept because she either says Clark told her, or she pulls it out of her desk drawer in the DP.

But as many obvious hints as she gives Clark that she knows his secret in Season 4, he never figures it out because we never see that conversation. Seriously, who could think that at the end of S4 "Blank", Clark just walks away saying "What does she mean by saying, I trusted her? Oh well, gotta get back to the farm."

For the record, I also thought Chloe's comment about how well Clark handled the party was about him after he received JK's card/gift. He opened it in front of all of them, that had to be more emotional than being in a surprise bday party.

[DorkMatter]

Judging by the looks they exchanged, I'd say that Chloe had already given Clark his present ahead of time. A couple of "IOUs?" Hmmm...apparently, she gave it to him twice.... :D

[TalkinMac]

I honestly didnt think much of it. I thought hey that is weird...but his birthday wasnt even made out to be a big deal.
But I think an I.O.U. is pretty lame, no matter who you are.

[DorkMatter]

Originally posted by TalkinMac
But I think an I.O.U. is pretty lame, no matter who you are.

Actually, Chloe was tearing up a couple of the IOUs that he owed her, and I thought the scene was kind of cute. She does and does for him all the time, made a little joke to teasingly remind him, and he thanked her sincerely. It seems that gift objects, even as tokens, aren't necessary between them, however symbolic the notion. I take this as another indication of how very close they've become over the course of this season.

[Sweetie]

What make you think that she didn't give him anything???She could have give him a gift before Lois's and the cake...By the way,it was the weirdest cake that I ever seen:eek:

[Iowa_Gent]

I think the reason for Chloe not getting Clark a gift was to make the fact that Lois did buy Clark a gift stand out more. If everyone had got him a gift it would have been no big deal that Lois got him one. It is their way to moving toward Clark and Lois as a couple

[supervixen]

[ It is their way to moving toward Clark and Lois as a couple [/B][/QUOTE]

Blah! I'm not ready for this relatinship to start. Lana has irritated me for 5 seasons lois is not aloud not for a long time yet therefore I repeat Blah!

[Sweetie]

Blah! I'm not ready for this relatinship to start. Lana has irritated me for 5 seasons lois is not aloud not for a long time yet therefore I repeat Blah! [/B][/QUOTE]


I agree.Lois doesn't know the secret and she's very curious so,she will try to know more and she can't know anything yet.It's not the time.It will be like Clana all over again.

[Kal'sGirl]

i think chloe scanning in a million sheets of paper for HOURS on end at the end of the episode was example enough of a gift.

[last man of krypton]

Maybe she was broke from her constant "Metropolis to Smallville to say one sentence" driving. If she could hold back on the travelling for just one day, I imagine she could've bought the Kents a new house.

[attitudejc]

clark doesn't like birthdays....thats why she didn't get him a gift...