Stop writing Lana so badly!

[Kreukie]

TPTB either wants everyone to hate Lana, so Lois can shine through so when Superman Returns releases and Season 6 premieres everyone will be throwing themselves at Lois' feet and rooting for Clois.

Or

They're just really, really bad at writing Lana to the point they no longer know what to do with her character.

If any of the above are the reasons why Lana being written the way she’s being written so far this season then do us Lana and Kristin fans all a favor and write her off of the series.

It's not fair for us to be devoted to this character for five seasons, for her to then be destroyed towards the end of the series with this senseless Lexana crap.

Lana should be standing beside Clark. She’s a canon character and her story is being Clark’s long time best friend.

Enough with favoring a made-up character over a canon character! Lana should have the relationship that Chloe has now with Clark.

That’s her place in Clark’s life has be for over 50 years!

[RedPhoenix23]

Chloe is more like the comic book Lana, to change that now wouldn't make sense for Smallville.

[TampaVille]

Personally I love the Chloe/Clark relationship. But on the issue of canon... Smallville's pretty much thrown conventional Superman canon out the window. I don't believe there's any incarnation of Superman where Clark had his FoS at this age, where he knew Lois when he was still in high school, or where he fought General Zod this young. And as I understand, prior to some previous retcons, Superman canon never had Clark and Lex as friends at this age (though maybe Superboy conventionally has? I'm not sure on that, I don't really read Superboy).

Anyway, my point is that it's one thing if you're tired of the Clark/Lana garbage and want to see some decent writing (a sentiment which I share with you!). But basing the argument on Lana's conventional role... I think you'll just have to add that change to the ever growing list of things Smallville's doing differently... or perhaps "freshly" to use WB terminology =).

[TalkinMac]

Um no.
The writer's wrote Lana in such a way that it would be a mistake for Clark to confide in Lana about his secret. She is too vulnerable, she thinks she has situations under control, but it is usually Clark saving her butt.

[Kreukie]

Originally posted by RedPhoenix23
Chloe is more like the comic book Lana, to change that now wouldn't make sense for Smallville.

I don't want her to be exactly like Chloe. I want her to be a friend to Clark. I want her to be siding with Clark and not with Lex. :rolleyes:

There shouldn't be a Lexana vs. Chlark.

Chloe is favored way too much over Lana in a lot ways on this series!


Originally posted by TampaVille
But on the issue of canon... Smallville's pretty much thrown conventional Superman canon out the window.

Really? Then why all the Clois foreshadowing?

Why are they keeping that the same and not Clark's friendship with Lana in the future?

[Wildfire]

Originally posted by Kreukie
TPTB either wants everyone to hate Lana, so Lois can shine through so when Superman Returns releases and Season 6 premieres everyone will be throwing themselves at Lois' feet and rooting for Clois.

Or

They're just really, really bad at writing Lana to the point they no longer know what to do with her character.

If any of the above are the reasons why Lana being written the way she’s being written so far this season then do us Lana and Kristin fans all a favor and write her off of the series.

It's not fair for us to be devoted to this character for five seasons, for her to then be destroyed towards the end of the series with this senseless Lexana crap.

Lana should be standing beside Clark. She’s a canon character and her story is being Clark’s long time best friend.

Enough with favoring a made-up character over a canon character! Lana should have the relationship that Chloe has now with Clark.

That’s her place in Clark’s life has be for over 50 years!

Its the only thing these writer can think of at the moment. I agree its time for Lana and Clark to move however a few notes"
1 Lana was not hanging around him when he was in college. She was far far away she only came back into his life shortly after he and Lois started dating.
2 Lana is really not like Iconic Lana much. Iconic Lana was geeky and into journalism.
As far as Chole taking Lana's role well Lana had Lana role in high shcool this college era so shes not suuposed to be there. So in my book Chole be the one is not a problem.

WIth all this said I agree they are runing her character sadly however it will not change between now and next week when she I bleive will as we gamers put it DEATH BLOW clana by standing by Lex while he lives it up with powers. However I dont see her leaving soon.

So I will have to hope she find outs the secert but gets crushed by Clark who is really finshed with it. Then she can work on rebuilding her life and do what she does in iconic history. . pine for Clark.

[Kreukie]

Originally posted by Wildfire
1 Lana was not hanging around him when he was in college. She was far far away she only came back into his life shortly after he and Lois started dating.
2 Lana is really not like Iconic Lana much. Iconic Lana was geeky and into journalism.
As far as Chole taking Lana's role well Lana had Lana role in high shcool this college era so shes not suuposed to be there. So in my book Chole be the one is not a problem.

Lana was never dorky in the comics and it was only in the Lois Lane series that she was into journalism and the only reason she got into it was because of Clark, soon after she left it for broadcasting.

And in the Superboy TV series which was based during Clark's college years, Lana was there along side Clark all four years.

So again, Lana has 50 years as being Clark really close friend... there's no reason for Chloe to be taking Lana's role.

Because that makes as much sense as Lana's taking Lois' role as Clark's wife in the future.:rolleyes:

[Wildfire]

But in superman it said he had not seen her since high school if I remember right.

[Kreukie]

Originally posted by Wildfire
But in superman it said he had not seen her since high school if I remember right.

Are you basing that off of the movie?

Because in the comics Clark and Lana are close until he leaves for his travels. he even asks Lana to come with him!

But Lana decides not to go with him. Then they run into each other again in Europe.

Then years later after the first sightings of Superman start happening Lana sends him a letter telling him how proud she is of him and they stay close from there on.

[Wildfire]

In the comics Ive read most of ones where he first comes to met and shes not there that I can remember. Likewsie you have to remember these guys have frecked and you know what I really mean up cannon.

Clana should have never had sex, likewise she is going to have deal with the conesquences of her actions. I say let her be on the side for half the season and let Lanas sl be her rebuidling her life. Then have them be friends agian but because of the monuemental mistake of Clana in the fifth season he needs time away form her before they can be firends epesically after lexod

[angelfire east]

Originally posted by Kreukie
I don't want her to be exactly like Chloe. I want her to be a friend to Clark. I want her to be siding with Clark and not with Lex. :rolleyes:

There shouldn't be a Lexana vs. Chlark.

Chloe is favored way too much over Lana in a lot ways on this series!

Really? Then why all the Clois foreshadowing?

Why are they keeping that the same and not Clark's friendship with Lana in the future?

Chloe is favored over Lana becuase she not his love interest, thus there not telling to make endless rubbish angst. The actully let Chloe and Clark be friends, Clark and Lana where never just friends, as another poster said the clana relationship since the show first started has this be elegent in the room and that held back the friendship. It's always just been waying to be together.

Focring the clana romance in horrible angst riuned any possibely of Lana being like the Lana from the comics. Because she can't be his friend and she can't not be his love interest. They have written it into a counter(sp)

Chloe has beome this many sue character but even before that Lana was never in that space in Clark's life and I doubt ever will. It's been set up that way since the show started, Chloe is that person (and was Pete).

There doing the clois hints becuase of the moive coming out more then anything.

And I said above they've written Lana in a couner(sp) and they can't get her out. They trapped her in the role of a love interested and only want angst so this is the end resuit.

Also I don't think the wirtters really know where they going with some of these characters because they have written then so badly. So what do they do? Keep writting the character badly.

[TampaVille]

Originally posted by Kreukie

So again, Lana has 50 years as being Clark really close friend... there's no reason for Chloe to be taking Lana's role.

Because that makes as much sense as Lana's taking Lois' role as Clark's wife in the future.:rolleyes:

Well, again, the show keeps some things traditional (like all the Clark/Lois foreshadowing, Lex being evil, Clark's dad dying), but has changed and added a TON. And not all of the changes have been bad!

Lionel's origin story (killing his parents to start LutherCorp) is basically Lex's story. Clark's parents being younger and more accessible is a fairly knew approach. I love Chloe, and she's new altogether. And the Clark/Lex relationsihp has been GREAT at times, which "shouldn't" have existed according to 50 years of tradition.

So basically... I think the writers do a lot of stuff very very VERY well, and a lot of stuff equally poorly. But you can't call out the "tradition" card when the writers pull one of their terrible moments. If you're still watching this show after 5 years of them rejecting a lot of traditional Superman canon, you must realize that the canon isn't what Smallville is following.

[Kreukie]

The future results of all the canon characters seem to be the same as always. Clark becomes Superman, Lex becomes evil, Jonathan ends up dying, Martha ends up being the only parent in Clark's life, Lois ends up with Clark.

So why can't Lana be the life long best friend?

[Wildfire]

Becasue the messed her up from the start. Shes not who she was to be. In that there lies the rub they made Chole so Clark could have a firend and turned Lana into love object of smallville it bites and kk and Lana desvere better but they cant go back on what they have written. . .its just bad pratice for a writer.

Likewise as far as her part soild in stone one shes not that big of a player in cannon to matter, other than really being Lois rival and Clarks firend/stalker (she does do some bad things to break them up in more recent ones) however remeber Chole may still be killed at some point in which Lana can take her place.

[mobiusklein]

Because it makes no sense.

Look you can't use canon & tradition because that Clana sex should never have been there. Neither should Lanaville.

Why should we reward this portrayal of the Clana relationship with lifelong friendship? It really makes no sense. It's about as logical as kicking someone's dog and not expecting to be attacked.

[xrayvision]

In the Post-crisis continuim, Jonathan lives. I think his closest friend was always Pete, and Lana was a close 2nd.

I do believe that it may happen eventually, but not during Lexana. I also don't know how pleased Clark will be that she gave away his weakness to his mortal enemy.

[TampaVille]

Chloe and Clark were on the outs for a while, the the point where she agreed to research him for Lionel (back when he was definitely a bad guy). Lex and Clark were friends and now look where they are. Relationships can change drastically, especially in Smallville! We may very well see a strong Clark/Lana friendship emerge by the end of Season 6.

[angelfire east]

Originally posted by Kreukie
The future results of all the canon characters seem to be the same as always. Clark becomes Superman, Lex becomes evil, Jonathan ends up dying, Martha ends up being the only parent in Clark's life, Lois ends up with Clark.

So why can't Lana be the life long best friend?

Yes but when you take a good look the characters aren't the same as canon even thought there basic outcome is being fouced to be the same. Just take Clark for expamle,he is not superman, (remember superman and Clark kent are the same person) the personally mind set are different. I can't see SV"s Clark being a superhero but it's being fouced anyway.

Or how about Lex, he's supose to become a super villian but right now he looks like a fool.This guy is suppose to be come the greatest villian of all time yet he can't see what's right in front of him and tied up over a freshmen girl?

JK's death is different in different verisons of the comics/moives.

[MBCorp]

"Stop writing Lana so badly!"


I've been saying this since the very beginning.:lol:

[Wildfire]

Originally posted by mobiusklein
Because it makes no sense.

Look you can't use canon & tradition because that Clana sex should never have been there. Neither should Lanaville.

Why should we reward this portrayal of the Clana relationship with lifelong friendship? It really makes no sense. It's about as logical as kicking someone's dog and not expecting to be attacked.

BINGO! The problem with lifelong firned at the moment is the sex they got too close too close to at the moment just be freinds after just breaking up. You just realisticlly cant do it. Plus the Lex factor and the fact she has now betrayed his weakness to his mortal enemy. . .Plus there is how she si ruining her life. . . .

In other words right now they cant break from writing her the ways she is they cant be now. Maybe later but not now and to wnat her to go form lover to best firend a week after a bad break up is unrelaistic at best. On the firends front give it time if she can rebuild her life after this mess with Zod and Chole dies then yes she can take her place. But not now.

[Kreukie]

Originally posted by Wildfire
Likewise as far as her part soild in stone one shes not that big of a player in cannon to matter, other than really being Lois rival and Clarks firend/stalker (she does do some bad things to break them up in more recent ones)
Questioning Clark's feelings over Lois isn't what I would calling "breaking them up".

Anyway she'll be returning in the comics this year again.


however remeber Chole may still be killed at some point in which Lana can take her place. [/B]

Lana shouldn't be taking a made-up characters place.


Originally posted by xrayvision
I also don't know how pleased Clark will be that she gave away his weakness to his mortal enemy.

Yeah, because Lana knows all about Clark being an alien.


Chloe and Clark were on the outs for a while, the the point where she agreed to research him for Lionel (back when he was definitely a bad guy). Lex and Clark were friends and now look where they are. Relationships can change drastically, especially in Smallville! We may very well see a strong Clark/Lana friendship emerge by the end of Season 6.

You have a point and maybe I'm just over heated because I hate seeing Lana siding with Lex over Clark. Makes me so sick!

I have to think back to season one and Clark and Lana's exchange to each other once.

Clark: You know, I thought we were done there for a while.

Lana: You and me are going to be friends for a very long time. We may have our ups and downs, but that's just the way it works.

[Theshadow129x]

lana's a twit she will learn his secret but when she does she wont like him for what he is like reckoning showed she'll simply blow him off because she'll think that he thinks shes shallow enough to not love him for his lineage. because once again its all about lana

[angelfire east]

Originally posted by MBCorp
"Stop writing Lana so badly!"


I've been saying this since the very beginning.:lol:

:lol: ditto

[Kreukie]

Originally posted by Theshadow129x
lana's a twit she will learn his secret but when she does she wont like him for what he is like reckoning showed she'll simply blow him off because she'll think that he thinks shes shallow enough to not love him for his lineage. because once again its all about lana

Um, she accepted him in Reckoning. Enough so she said yes to marrying him.

Or did you watch a different episode than I?

[IVODARK]

It's all Pete's fault, if you ask me. :D

[RedPhoenix23]

Originally posted by Theshadow129x
lana's a twit she will learn his secret but when she does she wont like him for what he is like reckoning showed she'll simply blow him off because she'll think that he thinks shes shallow enough to not love him for his lineage. because once again its all about lana

:confused: She accepted Clark for who he was in Reckoning... She even agreed to marry him..

[Rayje]

Originally posted by Kreukie
The future results of all the canon characters seem to be the same as always. Clark becomes Superman, Lex becomes evil, Jonathan ends up dying, Martha ends up being the only parent in Clark's life, Lois ends up with Clark.

So why can't Lana be the life long best friend?

They aren't all the same. In the comics, Jonathan is very much alive and well. Its only in the movie that he died.

The problem with "canon" is that there really isn't any. Continuity is stepped on all the time.

Lana in the comics is a jerk. Constantly pining after Clark, even going so far as too tell him that he and Lois don't belong together. Ya, some friend.


Originally posted by RedPhoenix23
:confused: She accepted Clark for who he was in Reckoning... She even agreed to marry him..

And darn near give his secret away without even making through the first day.

[Kal-El1978]

Originally posted by Kreukie
TPTB either wants everyone to hate Lana, so Lois can shine through so when Superman Returns releases and Season 6 premieres everyone will be throwing themselves at Lois' feet and rooting for Clois.

Or

They're just really, really bad at writing Lana to the point they no longer know what to do with her character.

If any of the above are the reasons why Lana being written the way she’s being written so far this season then do us Lana and Kristin fans all a favor and write her off of the series.

It's not fair for us to be devoted to this character for five seasons, for her to then be destroyed towards the end of the series with this senseless Lexana crap.

Lana should be standing beside Clark. She’s a canon character and her story is being Clark’s long time best friend.

Enough with favoring a made-up character over a canon character! Lana should have the relationship that Chloe has now with Clark.

That’s her place in Clark’s life has be for over 50 years!

I could not agree more. They are destroying her character. The Lexana crap does not work. Please wipe out her mind or at least fool us. Maybe it's fine that is posing as Lana and Lana is kidnapped and she's watching all this from the background unfold. Then she decides that she must stay away from Clark because she understands why he can't be with her.

[umm]

I don't think it's an conscious effort on their part to write her badly! The fact is the character of Lana is superfluous! From the moment they created Chloe, the character of Lana became superfluous! It's a rule of nature, you can´t have two queen bees in one nest! On one hand you have Lana nad on the other Chloe! Was there any doubt which one would come out as the winner?
If they wanted Lana to have a better role than they should have introduced Chloe in season two thus giving Lana some time to establish herself as a valid character, much like the writers of Angel did with Fred! But no, they had to go and introduce both characters at the same time, which was a BIG MISTAKE!

[canon]

Originally posted by Kreukie
Um, she accepted him in Reckoning. Enough so she said yes to marrying him.

Or did you watch a different episode than I?


She did accept Clark for who he was ONLY after talking to Lois (at the talon where Lana caught Lois from falling from a stool). Lois asked her something like if it changed the way she felt about the person, Lana's responded with "maybe." Lois then added that if Lana's talking about Clark......" anyone would be lucky to end up with him" or something like that. Then Lana went to see Clark and said 'yes'. So, there's a little bit of hesitation on Lana's part.

I liked Lana-Clark but after 4 1/2 seasons of relationship angst, I'm also ready to move on and want to see something different done with their characters. I wouldn't mind Lana partnering up with Lex as friends (and not so much as boyfriend/girlfriend) to investigate the spaceship and Milton Fine. This way it doesn't make Lana's character jumped from one male character to another as love interest.

Once she sees Lex evilness in season 6, we'll probably see Lana distancing herself from Lex, and hopefully Clark and her can become friends.

[oldmankent]

In my point of view the trouble is that there is no "canon" or "mythos" in the way many of the characters are being written. SV will do whatever it wants with any of the characters whenever it wants. That's okay. But when they set Lana in one direction (for example, being Clark's lover early in the season) and then break them up and give a reason that they want to be more in line with the "canon", that's just being hypocritical. You can't have it both ways.

[myankskent]

Originally posted by canon
She did accept Clark for who he was ONLY after talking to Lois (at the talon where Lana caught Lois from falling from a stool). Lois asked her something like if it changed the way she felt about the person, Lana's responded with "maybe." Lois then added that if Lana's talking about Clark......" anyone would be lucky to end up with him" or something like that. Then Lana went to see Clark and said 'yes'. So, there's a little bit of hesitation on Lana's part.

I liked Lana-Clark but after 4 1/2 seasons of relationship angst, I'm also ready to move on and want to see something different done with their characters. I wouldn't mind Lana partnering up with Lex as friends (and not so much as boyfriend/girlfriend) to investigate the spaceship and Milton Fine. This way it doesn't make Lana's character jumped from one male character to another as love interest.

Once she sees Lex evilness in season 6, we'll probably see Lana distancing herself from Lex, and hopefully Clark and her can become friends.

To me, there are no sides established. Lana is partnering up with Lex, but Lex is not evil. He was totally honest with Lana about Fine and the virus, and Lex clearly never had any intentions of releasing the virus on the world. He was trying to make the ultimate vaccine, and he was successful. Thanks to Brainiac, Lex's plan was destroyed. Plus, Brainiac is the one who has the virus to release it on the population. He probably only gave Lex enough to make a vaccine.

[Kreukie]

Originally posted by canon
She did accept Clark for who he was ONLY after talking to Lois (at the talon where Lana caught Lois from falling from a stool). Lois asked her something like if it changed the way she felt about the person, Lana's responded with "maybe." Lois then added that if Lana's talking about Clark......" anyone would be lucky to end up with him" or something like that. Then Lana went to see Clark and said 'yes'. So, there's a little bit of hesitation on Lana's part.

Clark asked Lana to think about it, Lois was the first person Lana encountered after the FOS trip with Clark to express what she was feeling and of course TPTB had to rub it in our face yet again how Lois is the #1 girl. :rolleyes:

Even with that, Lois had the same problem on Lois&Clark and even in the comics when she found out Clark was Superman. At least she at that point in her life knew more of Superman then Lana does of Clark as just an alien.

For Lois, seeing Superman being super was the norm in her life, Lana seeing Clark being Super wasn't the norm in her life because he hide it from her and pretty much everyone who doesn't know about him.

So faulting Lana for questioning things after she just learned her boyfriend is an alien is very unfair.

Even Super!Chloe was pretty freaked when she learned about it and that girl lives for freaky things.

[j-kent]

Originally posted by Kreukie
TPTB either wants everyone to hate Lana, so Lois can shine through so when Superman Returns releases and Season 6 premieres everyone will be throwing themselves at Lois' feet and rooting for Clois.

Or

They're just really, really bad at writing Lana to the point they no longer know what to do with her character.

If any of the above are the reasons why Lana being written the way she’s being written so far this season then do us Lana and Kristin fans all a favor and write her off of the series.

It's not fair for us to be devoted to this character for five seasons, for her to then be destroyed towards the end of the series with this senseless Lexana crap.

Lana should be standing beside Clark. She’s a canon character and her story is being Clark’s long time best friend.

Enough with favoring a made-up character over a canon character! Lana should have the relationship that Chloe has now with Clark.

That’s her place in Clark’s life has be for over 50 years!

Pretty much...couldn't have said it better!