One of the most important things in superman mythos happened tonite

[bunkmania]

Lex Luthor found out how to stop kryptonians and eventually superman.

although i hated it was lana who told him :(

[LuthorRequiem2]

THAT WAS FREAKIN' AWESOME (Not that Lana told him, but when she started to tell him I felt like yelling out, "SO THAT'S HOW LEX LUTHOR KNOWS HOW TO WEAKEN SUPERMAN IN THE FUTURE!!!!") That was totally cool! Great way of expanding the mythos.

[k18]

yeah, that was pretty cool. Maybe he will come up with the idea of the kryptonite ring soon?

[bunkmania]

Ya very cool......... If lex doesnt get a memory wipe, the ring might definetly show up in season 6

[hassenmorad]

Man, next season is going to have a whole new dimension in the Lex v. Clark arena. The anticipation is going to kill me this summer- good thing the World Cup can keep me busy.

[TampaVille]

Originally posted by k18
yeah, that was pretty cool. Maybe he will come up with the idea of the kryptonite ring soon?

I'd love to see that. I kind of doubt it since they already gave Lex the K-ring earlier in the season (I think it was Onyx?). That was my personal favorite Superman reference yet.

[TalkinMac]

I dont think Lex should have found out from Lana, rather have seen it happen to Clark first hand.

[TampaVille]

Originally posted by TalkinMac
I dont think Lex should have found out from Lana, rather have seen it happen to Clark first hand.

That would have been interesting. Problem there though is that Lex would then know Clark is an alien. This way he can know a Kryptonian's weakness without knowing Clark is Kryptonian.

Besides, the scene where he tries Kryptoniting Fine was awesome =).

[xrayvision]

Originally posted by hassenmorad
Man, next season is going to have a whole new dimension in the Lex v. Clark arena. The anticipation is going to kill me this summer- good thing the World Cup can keep me busy.

Yeah, that and a bunch of other stuff I'll have to do will keep me busy as well. Whatever the last season of Smallville is, it would be nice if it was extended to 30 or 32 episodes and ended sometime in the summer just to give it enough time to wrap it up well.

[Overlord]

Good scene, and it's now only a matter of time before Lex either: (1) realizes Clark is an alien; (2) has terrible memory loss; or (3) receives an award for the dumbest man on the planet.
Originally posted by k18 yeah, that was pretty cool. Maybe he will come up with the idea of the kryptonite ring soon? I think it'd be pretty sweet to see Lex get paranoid about an alien invasion because of all this and start wearing the ring constantly starting next season. They could do a lot of cool things with that.

I also thought something else about that scene was cool. I think it was the first time a character actually commented on the glowing kryptonite. It could have happened before, but I don't remember it. I always figured it was just for the viewer's sake. So, why wouldn't anybody have thought it was wierd for a rock to randomly start giving off green light when Clark was around in the past?

[superman_115]

I hope this will start the Clark and Lex hate relationship.

BUT, I hope to goodness they don't make Lana the focal point in the next season, she needs to leave and not come back for the next 100 million years.

[Overlord]

Originally posted by superman_115
BUT, I hope to goodness they don't make Lana the focal point in the next season, she needs to leave and not come back for the next 100 million years. So, what are you thinking? Maybe a time travel plot where Lana goes 100 million years in the future while the rest of the show stays firmly in the present and just stops talking about her, figuring they'll catch up with that storyline in season 100,000,006? Or maybe a last shot of her in the future with Pete Ross, "So this is where you've been? Huh."

[Wildfire]

Originally posted by Overlord
So, what are you thinking? Maybe a time travel plot where Lana goes 100 million years in the future while the rest of the show stays firmly in the present and just stops talking about her, figuring they'll catch up with that storyline in season 100,000,006? Or maybe a last shot of her in the future with Pete Ross, "So this is where you've been? Huh."

I dont well I dont know about her leaving I thinkg shes being done so bad if she left now the character will be hated. She desveres her dignity with that being said she is ruining her life and she will face the music for it.

As a writer I hope she finds out Clarks secert but its too late for them becasue Clark is done with her. She goes home and starts to rebuild her life after being the woman at the side of Lex Luthor whike the tired to destroy the planet. (this looks like what will be for Lana next weeks tanding by h is side while he trashes the planet) She will have to restablish realtionships hopfully well see neil and henery small. Have her out of Clark group though pineing for him then about mid season ease her back in as freind.

Its fair for what we have and it give a chance for redeemption.

[boywithbluehanger]

something else important happened tonight, while we have seen clark in peoples' faces lately - like how he was treating chloe (when she never metioned lexana) and "lionel" up until the end of yesterdays ep. yesterday, he allowed himself to get b1tch3d by lex - met.clark style!! i was like "no backbone and the wuss look in the eyes!! this is the clark we know and love!"

[janedoe]

That was pretty hot, but I can't believe Lana told Lex everything. I know she trusts him n he told her all bout the plans, knowing Lex's background n being warned by two of your friends whether or not I still trusted one of them would plant a seed in my mind. I guess I just don't think you should put all your eggs in one basket.

[Auryn]

i think before the show is over, Clark will give one of those Lois Lane Superman part 2 kisses to Lex and he will forget.

[firefly01]

Actually, I was kind of surprised that Lana didn't mention the green-k before since they were researching the ship for all that time. Interesting that it's Lana's fault that Lex will know Clark's biggest weakness.

[LuthorRequiem2]

It also now makes a lot of sense why Lex would hate Superman so much: He sees the havoc that aliens like Professor Fine cause on the Earth, and he thinks that he'll be the hero, preventing Superman from ever taking over. Plus, HE wants to be the one in charge of everyone, not an alien from another planet. So even if he knew, deep down, that Superman was really good and not evil like Prof. Fine, he'd still want to get rid of Superman so that he can be in charge, and he'd justify his actions by telling himself, "It's for the good of mankind what I'm doing", just like Lionel always justified his actions when he was evil to Lex as, "I'm doing it to make him stronger".

[Coyote]

The Kryptonians do seem to be evil creatures, so it would make sense for Lex to be suspicious of Superman, if he knew Superman was one of them. Superman might be pretending to be good, but nobody could be sure what his real plans are.

Lex's comment about Clark always barging in where he's not invited might also apply to Superman. Nobody invited this alien to come here and interfere with our world, and it's arguable that Smallville would be better off if Clark and the Kryptonite that came with him had never arrived. Smallville used to be a nice safe little town, now it's a deadly place full of killer mutants, where half the high school doesn't survive to graduation. Clark saves people now and then, but if he hadn't come to earth in the first place most of the dangers he saves them from wouldn't exist.

[margroks]

Actually, Smallville had weird long before Clark arrived so I wouldn't place the blame on him (the Small Diaries reference a lot of things and don't forget the Nicodemus flower, also a result of the earlier meteor shower).

And while I find Lana to be thoroughly distasteful in all regards, I don't think you can blame her for telling Lex that she knows a way to hurt the people who came out of the ship and Fine whom they thought was one of them. Those people are dangerous and Kryptonite is a usful weapon against them.

Also, Lex has actually been present when Clark was around Kryptonite and being affected by it (the mansion, early season one} when he had Lana's necklace in the lead box and opened it to show Clark. He asked Clark if he was alright having noticed his apparent discomfort. But this was a definite big reveal for Lex to have it confirmed so boldly. But does he really remember that or think Clark could be an alien? Meteor rock has been shown to affect the locals so maybe he'll still think Clark is just one of those unfortunates, especially since Van was targeting Clark as well as himself on that assumption.

I don't think Clark was being a wuss at all. Look at his face and demeanor in that scene. I think Lex was taking a big chance there though he didn't know it. Clark very pointedly reined himself in there, kept his emotions in check because I think his first impulse was to rip Lex apart for that remark.

As for Lex and the vaccine? He may have had good intentions but not only is it extremely dangerous but highly illegal to smuggle, receive and store dangerous biologicals and the reasons are obvious. What if they escaped the lab? Were stolen? What if, after the Luthor scientists replicated them in large numbers Fine came and just released them, having allowed Lex to do his dirty work for him unklnowingly? Obviously, too, Fine diddled them in some way or they weren't what they were supposed to be from the beginning. Lex was duped and now he and possibly our wntire race could be screwed. It was a very bad idea. And Lana, of course, went right along with it so she must accept the repsosibility for it as well.

[LuckyKrypto]

Originally posted by boywithbluehanger
something else important happened tonight, while we have seen clark in peoples' faces lately - like how he was treating chloe (when she never metioned lexana) and "lionel" up until the end of yesterdays ep. yesterday, he allowed himself to get b1tch3d by lex - met.clark style!! i was like "no backbone and the wuss look in the eyes!! this is the clark we know and love!"

It did seem like in that scene that we got a glimpse of Clark's 'mid manneredness':)

[mortalreckoning]

Originally posted by margroks
I don't think Clark was being a wuss at all. Look at his face and demeanor in that scene. I think Lex was taking a big chance there though he didn't know it. Clark very pointedly reined himself in there, kept his emotions in check because I think his first impulse was to rip Lex apart for that remark.

no...he wasn't a wuss
and while he was angry at Lex, I also don't think that's why he reined himself in

I believe he very nearly told Lex the truth...that he didn't 'lose' Lana...he let her go

but then he almost instantly realised the futility of confessing this to Lex and chose instead to back off

[Chlark Kent]

Originally posted by bunkmania
Lex Luthor found out how to stop kryptonians and eventually superman.

although i hated it was lana who told him :(

Smallville handled it much better than the movie did. I know Lex Luthor is smart, but the way he reasoned it in Superman 1 was ridiculous.

-Superman is from another planet
-this meteroite in Africa fell to Earth around the same time as he did
-it must be from his planet
-it's lethal to him.

Huh? I'll take Lana telling him over that any time.

[Watching Smallville]

And I like the irony. Jor-El channels to Lionel, presumably to protect Clark. Lionel tells Lana, so she can protect herself. Lana tells Lex, so he can protect himself. The line goes from protecting Clark to protecting Clark's future enemy. Pretty cool, actually.

[last man of krypton]

Originally posted by Overlord
I also thought something else about that scene was cool. I think it was the first time a character actually commented on the glowing kryptonite

I thought that at first. But on a second listening, Fine said "close".

[xrayvision]

I don't think Lana will be forgivable by the fans who can't stand her now if Lex remembers that kryptonite hurts Kryptonians or if she finds out through the kryptonite test. That would make her the only "friend" who finds out by causing him physical pain in doing so.

[Overlord]

Originally posted by last man of krypton
I thought that at first. But on a second listening, Fine said "close". Really? Ahh, man... I could have sworn he said, "it glows." Looks like the mystery continues...

[Watching Smallville]

I heard, "Close," too. I'm not sure why it glowed. Doesn't it only glow in the presence of Kryptonian biology? Fine isn't biological...

[Hugo]

I just loved this episode period. ***** Five stars. It was great!

[347Studboy]

Originally posted by LuthorRequiem2
It also now makes a lot of sense why Lex would hate Superman so much: He sees the havoc that aliens like Professor Fine cause on the Earth, and he thinks that he'll be the hero, preventing Superman from ever taking over.

I agree completely, mostly because of Lex's reasoning for how Segeeth (or whatever) could actually be the hero, instead of Naman. Lex just thinks everyone is deeply selfish like him. What a jerk.


Originally posted by margroks
As for Lex and the vaccine? He may have had good intentions but...

That's Lex for you. It's like Clark said in "Cyborg", he always thinks the ends justify the means.


Originally posted by Chlark Kent
Smallville handled it much better than the movie did. I know Lex Luthor is smart, but the way he reasoned it in Superman 1 was ridiculous.

Some people can read War and Peace thinking it's a simple adventure story, and others can read the ingredients off a chewing gum wrapper and unlock the secrets of the universe.


Originally posted by last man of krypton
I thought that at first. But on a second listening, Fine said "close".

SUCH an awesome scene. "Close... but I'm not one of 'them'. I was just created by them."

[Maagic]

Originally posted by Coyote
Smallville used to be a nice safe little town, now it's a deadly place full of killer mutants, where half the high school doesn't survive to graduation. Clark saves people now and then, but if he hadn't come to earth in the first place most of the dangers he saves them from wouldn't exist.

Actually Krypton would have still exploded whether or not Clark arrived on Earth. Smallville would have still been infested with kryptonite (as would the rest of the planet)

[Watching Smallville]

I'm not sure about that. I thought the Kryptonite came with Clark's ship, because the ship was set for a course in that direction. It's like the load of Kryptonite that came with the black ship last year.

[mortalreckoning]

Originally posted by Watching Smallville
I'm not sure why it glowed. Doesn't it only glow in the presence of Kryptonian biology? Fine isn't biological...


that confused me too...
up until then we've seen kryptonite only glow in the prescence of Kryptonian biology

so there's obviously something we have not been told as yet about it's properties
I can't imagine that they somehow goofed with this aspect

[Hero Complex]

I read in the early parts of this post people mentioning seeing the Kryptonite ring. If my Smallville knowledge is up to date we have seen a cameo appearance of the K-Ring. I believe the Evil Lex in (Onyx I believe?) wore it when he confronted Clark in the barn.

Now if it was meant that LEX himself will begin wearing it more often, I wouldn't doubt it.

[LuckyKrypto]

:confused: I guess I thought it just glowed whenever.....it seems like in earlier episodes I remember seeing it glow when clark wasn't around??? Maybe I am confused. But I remember an epsiode where there was an old man that fell in a lake of Kryptonite and I thought the rocks were glowing???

[bobser]

Originally posted by k18
yeah, that was pretty cool. Maybe he will come up with the idea of the kryptonite ring soon?

I thought evil Lex already punched Clark with a kryptonite ring (whenever the Lex's episode occurred.)

[TampaVille]

Originally posted by bobser
I thought evil Lex already punched Clark with a kryptonite ring (whenever the Lex's episode occurred.)

Yeah. That was Lex's dark side in Onyx. Again, my personal favorite Superman reference yet =).

[xrayvision]

Originally posted by LuckyKrypto
:confused: I guess I thought it just glowed whenever.....it seems like in earlier episodes I remember seeing it glow when clark wasn't around??? Maybe I am confused. But I remember an epsiode where there was an old man that fell in a lake of Kryptonite and I thought the rocks were glowing???

Yes, that happened in Hourglass. I think they do that sometimes just for the effect or to make it clear that it's kryptonite because sometimes it's in a dark environment and you wouldn't see it or distinguish it as being green-k unless they made it glow.

[Kryptonian_unforgiven]

Originally posted by Coyote
The Kryptonians do seem to be evil creatures, so it would make sense for Lex to be suspicious of Superman, if he knew Superman was one of them. Superman might be pretending to be good, but nobody could be sure what his real plans are.

Lex's comment about Clark always barging in where he's not invited might also apply to Superman. Nobody invited this alien to come here and interfere with our world, and it's arguable that Smallville would be better off if Clark and the Kryptonite that came with him had never arrived. Smallville used to be a nice safe little town, now it's a deadly place full of killer mutants, where half the high school doesn't survive to graduation. Clark saves people now and then, but if he hadn't come to earth in the first place most of the dangers he saves them from wouldn't exist.


Yeah, i think it would be cool if they did a classic "time travel episode" where somebody in affiliation with Lex (or even Lex himself!) comes back to kill Clark & is chased back through by a good guy also to prevent him from killing him.They could have it take place on Krypton & we could see more of what it was like before the big bang.Just so that it'd make sense,present Clark could go back to help the future goodguy stop the villian from killing Clark & screwing with the future.This way Clark could learn ANOTHER valueable lesson in time travel & not try to save the planet before it goes bye-byes.It would also be nice to have some moments between him & his birthparents during the course of the action,especially with his mom,Lara.We could also see the creation of Fine & have Zod make an appearance(or a disappearance,if they went back at the right moment,ala phantom zone or wherever he is trapped).The special effects would probably be through the roof but it would make for a great episode.

[LuckyKrypto]

Originally posted by Kryptonian_unforgiven
Yeah, i think it would be cool if they did a classic "time travel episode" where somebody in affiliation with Lex (or even Lex himself!) comes back to kill Clark & is chased back through by a good guy also to prevent him from killing him.They could have it take place on Krypton & we could see more of what it was like before the big bang.Just so that it'd make sense,present Clark could go back to help the future goodguy stop the villian from killing Clark & screwing with the future.This way Clark could learn ANOTHER valueable lesson in time travel & not try to save the planet before it goes bye-byes.It would also be nice to have some moments between him & his birthparents during the course of the action,especially with his mom,Lara.We could also see the creation of Fine & have Zod make an appearance(or a disappearance,if they went back at the right moment,ala phantom zone or wherever he is trapped).The special effects would probably be through the roof but it would make for a great episode.

WOW that is a really cool idea! I like it:D

[TampaVille]

Not that that's an entirely terrible idea or anything, but that's enough material for an entire season, not just one episode.

I mean, you just gave more plot for an episode than the entire Prison Break show has in its series =).

[mech-anic]

For the life of me I cant remember when Lana even learned that Kryptonite hurt the Aliens............................................ .... Actually now I remember she learned it in the first ep of this season, now my questions because I cant remember and I didn't record it. How did she learn that Kryptonite hurt the 2 aliens in that ep?

[347Studboy]

Lionel, in his weird Kryptonian oracle trance, told her that "their home is their only poison". I'm surprised she recognized the glowing green eyes in the statues from China as being meteor rocks.

Go her.