The future of Lionel...

[Lone Soul]

I have the strange feeling Lionel is getting killed this next episode by possibly Fine, or Lex (if he finds out Lionel was keeping the world's greatest secrets, and having so much power the rage kills him).

This could easily be the most action packed episode of all-time in Smallville.

P.S. Has season 6 been confirmed yet? :confused:

[Aloof]

The future of Lionel... I'm not sure, but I do think he will get killed by one of them. :(

[EricN68]

Did we see yet another shot of Lionel secretly scarfing down some pills in this one? Something like that happened shortly before JK bought the farm.

[Bookwrm17]

I think the pills were to imply that he's still having those headaches we've been seeing throughout the season.

[KEakaCK]

I read that season 6 will be on the new network established by merging UPN and The WB...It won't officially be announced till like in June.

[amberdawn]

I dont know what to think about him. Its highly possible he could be killed sometime soon.

[mttmtlnd]

Would be GREAT if Lex/Zod killed Lionel/Jor el next episode!!!

[DarkKnight32]

Wouldn't you have a headache with all that Kryptonian Code in your head. lol

[myankskent]

I think Lionel will be around for a while. They might use him as JorEl for a while.

[Ephrils]

I hope he's not killed off :(

Noone else can play the position game against Lex like Lionel. He's got massive influence just because he's Lionel Luthor.

[Aloof]

Anyone who knows Clark's secret could most likely be killed. Even Chloe. :(

[watcher4]

I also hope that Lionel is not going to be killed off. It was hard enough when Jonathan died. Two major characters in one season?

[Lone Soul]

Yeah and I was actually starting to like Lionel's character as a person.

[Aloof]

If Lionel isn't going to die this season, then next season for sure.

[Incus]

I think he is going to die as well. He has kind of become a good guy, and I don't see much of role for Lionel as a good guy! Unless of course he has no recollection of this entire year as Jor-el was inside of him and resorts to his evil ways once Jor-el leaves him

[Lone Soul]

Originally posted by DarkKnight32
Wouldn't you have a headache with all that Kryptonian Code in your head. lol

Haha, well you can see the terrible migranes he gets...
and yes..that sure is alot of kryptonian :eek:

[moe2death]

Originally posted by Incus
I think he is going to die as well. He has kind of become a good guy, and I don't see much of role for Lionel as a good guy! Unless of course he has no recollection of this entire year as Jor-el was inside of him and resorts to his evil ways once Jor-el leaves him acually lionel has been good even before Jor-el started ussing lionel's body remember in "Transference" hes been good ever since when clark left lionels body

[LuthorRequiem2]

What about "Onyx"? Was he really resorting back to his evil ways? Or did he not mean his words like they sounded. Maybe when he said, "You're the son I've always wanted" and "We're Luthors" maybe he just meant, "it's good your standing up for yourself" and "We can't deny that we have darkness inside us". But what he maybe didn't mean is, "We have to be EVIL because we're Luthors". Maybe Lionel is just channeling his inner darkness for a greater purpose, to help Clark, like Bruce Wayne does to become Batman. Am I making sense? If not please ask me to elaborate. :)

[Watching Smallville]

Originally posted by Lone Soul
I have the strange feeling Lionel is getting killed this next episode by possibly Fine, or Lex (if he finds out Lionel was keeping the world's greatest secrets, and having so much power the rage kills him).
Sadly, I agree. Good Lionel, Bad Lionel -- makes no difference. He's magnificent to watch.

[LuthorRequiem2]

I certainly hope he doesn't die in the next episode, for a few reasons:

1.) Lionel is too fun to watch, he's one of my two fav characters (the other being Lex). Don't get me wrong, I love Clark too, and Lois, Chloe, and Lana are HOT babes, but the Luthor intrigue is really a key ingredient to what makes the show so great, at least for me. And...

2.) I think when Lionel dies, it needs to be at Lex's hands. I don't think Lex is far enough down the path of evil to kill his father. I think they need to take more time to develop Lex's villainy to a peak, to a point where there's no return, and then he kills his dad. I really don't think it'd make sense for him to kill him quite yet, unless something really dramatic happened between the two of them. And...

3.) Lionel's character can totally come to good use next season in aiding Clark in his journey to becoming Superman. To kill him now would be to waste a really good opportunity with a great character. And...

4.) More answers need to be revealed about Lionel's nature. Is he good or evil? We need to find out more, and it'd be hard to show that in just one episode (the season finale) And...

5.) Lionel and Lex's relationship needs to develop further. We need more interaction and we need to see a gradual descent with the two of them, to a point of no return, to make for the grand finale of deaths, the Lionel Luthor death, a truly dramatic death.

Oh, and...

6.) If Lex killed Lionel, there'd be no going back at all on the Lex and Clark friendship. And even though they're getting close to becoming enemies right now, half the fun and emotion comes from seeing that they still deep down care for each other, especially Lex caring for Clark. He seems like he misses the friendship. I think they need a sentimental scene between the two where they reminisce and Lex asks, "Why can't things be the way they were before". All that would be lost if Lionel died at Lex's hands in the next episode. Clark would never reminisce with Lex, or be sentimental with him, they'd be enemies. And I think the show needs to END with them being enemies, not do a whole season next season of them being enemies.

[biggkoz]

Yes if lionel stays normal and doesnt try to be all evil like he used to then he should be a good character but Im sure they will kill him off.

[TalkinMac]

I think they will keep him around for a bit, just to keep things interesting.

[Best Episode - 321]

Originally posted by KEakaCK
I read that season 6 will be on the new network established by merging UPN and The WB...It won't officially be announced till like in June.

The CW will announce the Fall 2006 schedule on May 18th. I'm sure Smallville will be on the schedule.

[Overlord]

God willing he'll still be here this time next year. What an awesome character and actor.

Plus, who's going to kill him when he can zap braniac clones just by touching them. When is Clark going to learn that power, because I think it might be extremely valuable in the near future.

I do think the pills are for his heart though and he might collapse because of that. Why would he take them to control the possessions if they clearly aren't working? I think Jor-El super charged him back at the beginning of the season and he knows it's more than his human heart can handle.

[nomad]

It seems to me that Lionel isn't as evil as I first thought.

I don't think that Lionel gets killed anytime soon, because he's the balancing force in SV, but if TPTB decide to write him out then it's bye-bye for Smallville.

[LuthorRequiem2]

"I do think the pills are for his heart though and he might collapse because of that. Why would he take them to control the possessions if they clearly aren't working? I think Jor-El super charged him back at the beginning of the season and he knows it's more than his human heart can handle."

Overlord, I totally agree. It's like Jonathan in Season 3. When Jonathan made the deal with Jor-El he had those heart problems because it was more than a human body could take. Now the same is happening to Lionel.

And I just got an idea! If Lionel does die, it has to be at Lex's hands, in my opinion. It'd be the most tragic, dramatic way of doing it. But the idea I just got was not that (I've thought that for a while, as most people have). The idea was this: WHAT IF...Lex kills Lionel using the pills. He finds out that Lionel is weak, and for whatever reason, he needs Lionel out of his life (maybe Lionel is stopping his projects and Lex thinks it's just his attempts to sabotage his son, like usual, not knowing that Lionel's had a change of heart). He puts together the evidence that Lionel is taking pills, etc., and realizes his dad is weak. He somehow slips him too many pills.

This is just interesting to me, because I've wondered not really IF Lionel would die at Lex's hands so much as HOW he'd die at Lex's hands. I always thought poison, you know, because it's kind of a Luthor tradition, but the pills would make sense and tie in to the story-arch.

[milton fine]

i didnt used to like lionel but after mercy when he was givin a choice to kill martha or himself he chose him self wich made me belive theres hope for him then after last nights episode im starting to like him

[LuthorRequiem2]

milton fine,
I agree Lionel may be a good guy because he may have sacrificed his life for Martha. BUT...not to dash that hope, but, recall that Clark said, "Unless you already knew the gun was loaded." and someone on this message board mentioned the fact that the particular gun Lionel was holding was one in which you can tell if it's loaded or not by pressing something or something along those lines. So maybe Lionel isn't all peaches and cream. We'll have to see.....

[puddinpiester]

Originally posted by LuthorRequiem2
[B]I certainly hope he doesn't die in the next episode, for a few reasons:

2.) I think when Lionel dies, it needs to be at Lex's hands. I don't think Lex is far enough down the path of evil to kill his father. I think they need to take more time to develop Lex's villainy to a peak, to a point where there's no return, and then he kills his dad. I really don't think it'd make sense for him to kill him quite yet, unless something really dramatic happened between the two of them. And...
B]

Lex may not be far enough down the path to kill Lionel, but the new and improved Lex (thanks Prof. Fine) just might be. Remember when Jonathan said ..."Power is intoxicating..." With that analogy in mind, Lex is gonna be wicked drunk.

I, too, am not ready to say goodbye to Lionel, but I can't remember anywhere where a Lionel Luthor helped to mold Superman. If the show is gonna stay on the air, it could use some new blood. Someone mentioned a season villian, not just a FOTW. That could be a good thing. The actors need some meaty scripts to sink their teeth into. The FOTWs must be boring to do. Over and over and over and over...

I do not want anyone taking Pa Kent's place in any way no matter how remote and removed.

[myankskent]

Killing lionel off can really put the show in a rut. Unfortunately, Rosenbaum will just never be as convincing as Glover in how evil he is. Glover had the look and the proper acting skills. This is not to bash Rosenbaum, but he just isn't as convincing as Glover, IMO.

[347Studboy]

Originally posted by LuthorRequiem2
What about "Onyx"? Was he really resorting back to his evil ways? Or did he not mean his words like they sounded. Maybe when he said, "You're the son I've always wanted" and "We're Luthors" maybe he just meant, "it's good your standing up for yourself" and "We can't deny that we have darkness inside us". But what he maybe didn't mean is, "We have to be EVIL because we're Luthors". Maybe Lionel is just channeling his inner darkness for a greater purpose, to help Clark, like Bruce Wayne does to become Batman. Am I making sense? If not please ask me to elaborate. :)

I've thought about this often. Technically, and I mean VERY technically, has Lionel done anything truly evil since Onix? I mean, other than poisoning Genevieve Teauge, which may or may not count.

Think about it... he's been protecting Clark's secret since before he was even zapped by that stone, when he shot Jason to stop him from telling Lex anything. And even if he acted all evil again at the end of Onix, maybe it was a show for Lex? Y'know, to throw him off? I dunno.