Jonathan [technically] playing the villain.. [Archive]

Summers

05-04-2006, 07:32 PM

He was very good. Reminded me a lot of The First on Buffy when Buffy's mother came to her daughter Dawn to have go against Buffy. Just wished this would actually be an arc instead for one episode :\.

Aloof

05-04-2006, 07:39 PM

Originally posted by myankskent
And Aloof, lets go Yankees!

Ya!!!!! :D

shinedown

05-04-2006, 07:41 PM

he was really good at playing the villian. especially the creepy part where he was looking at martha thru the indow and then became braniac. purely chilling.

and while we're on the topic of baseball i also must add that the yankees totally rock!!!

MBCorp

05-04-2006, 07:41 PM

I thought it was really chilling when he was taunting Clark. JS rocked in this episode!

loistickyfingerz

05-04-2006, 08:47 PM

I thought it was just great to see him back, he's so good. But he needs to find a baber on the other side....

kkjdt

05-04-2006, 08:48 PM

Oh I miss him so on the show... not the same without him!!! He is one of the best actors on the show.. I still think they made a mistake killing him off

xrayvision

05-04-2006, 08:58 PM

I was just thinking earlier today about how it would be if there was an evil Jonathan, and wala. I loved the way he acted in that barn fight. Damn, that was awesome. Why the hell didn't we have stuff like this earlier in the season? It could have replaced episodes like Tomb, Fragile, and Aqua.

Originally posted by myankskent
And Aloof, lets go Yankees!

Let's go Mets!! Yankees too, but after the Mets.

Originally posted by kkjdt
Oh I miss him so on the show... not the same without him!!! He is one of the best actors on the show.. I still think they made a mistake killing him off

I hope they somehow bring him back, but alas it will for sure never happen. One of the best things in the show was the father son chats he had with Jonathan. I will miss those.

myankskent

05-04-2006, 09:01 PM

Originally posted by xrayvision
I was just thinking earlier today about how it would be if there was an evil Jonathan, and wala. I loved the way he acted in that barn fight. Damn, that was awesome. Why the hell didn't we have stuff like this earlier in the season? It could have replaced episodes like Tomb, Fragile, and Aqua.

Let's go Mets!! Yankees too, but after the Mets.

The Mets are looking good this season. The Yankees are the same old team where they will score a billion runs one game and then get shut out the next.

The problem is that the writers just can't string together good episodes. They always have to throw garbage in for filler in order for them to get to their finale. I, for one, would rather seen more of Brainiac this season. Let me see how he came back after Solitude. I also would've liked to see Zod's disciples. One episode and out for them is a disgrace.

mallory

05-04-2006, 09:51 PM

Originally posted by myankskent
John Schneider is the man. He and Glover, hands down, the best two actors on the show.

For me it's Glover and Rosenbaum. Though JS and AOT show they can shine too, when they are allowed to move outside their roles as Ma and Pa. Thought AOT was spectacular in Mercy.

Watching Smallville

05-04-2006, 10:16 PM

I love Bo. Wish he weren't dead.

svsabbiesv

05-04-2006, 10:16 PM

he did such a great job that i was screamin at the tv to turn him back into brainac bc i didn't like jonathan to hurt clark....the only time i was okay with it was when jonathan was tryin to save clark from red k...aye

OutlawAngel

05-04-2006, 10:29 PM

This is the one episode I have fever hated missing. Man I betcha Schneider was awesome tonight.

LuckyKrypto

05-04-2006, 10:29 PM

I thought he was GREAT!!
I was so irritated at my TV though, it kept cutting in and out durning the scene in the barn....I am so sure that I probably missed something:(

Batman_Beyonder

05-04-2006, 10:38 PM

Excellent job at being the villian... Even though he actually was pretending to be pretending to be jonathan kent.

watcher4

05-04-2006, 11:15 PM

Originally posted by kkjdt
Oh I miss him so on the show... not the same without him!!! He is one of the best actors on the show.. I still think they made a mistake killing him off

I agree with everything you said!

Donnie Brasco

05-05-2006, 04:09 AM

Originally posted by MBCorp
I thought it was really chilling when he was taunting Clark. JS rocked in this episode!

Agreed

Shadow116

05-05-2006, 04:16 AM

Scnieder did a great job last night hands down. Please I hope they introduce the FOS regeneration chamber :lol: so Schnieder can be back on the show.
:)

CallMeClark

05-05-2006, 05:35 AM

Hey did an amazing job. I like that his hair was a bit messy and longer. He really did the whole villian thing well. Especially when it was Clark, Lionel and Fine as Pa Kent in the barn and he was yelling, "Kill him now!"

beefywellingtom

05-05-2006, 08:40 AM

He did an excellent job! I just hope this isn't the last image we have of PA Kent....Did anyone wonder though that since Brain was playing Clark against Lionel in this ep.. Maybe that wasn't really JK in the other episode where Clark learned Lionel knew his secret?

Watching Smallville

05-05-2006, 09:47 AM

Yes, JS is all over the screen with his villainy.

You know what, though. I'm a little miffed that the last scene we see between JS and TW is a fake Jonathan scene. I loved those father-son moments. I don't like thinking that this is the last appearance of Jonathan on the show. It's a little cynical.

LuckyKrypto

05-05-2006, 02:11 PM

Originally posted by beefywellingtom
He did an excellent job! I just hope this isn't the last image we have of PA Kent....Did anyone wonder though that since Brain was playing Clark against Lionel in this ep.. Maybe that wasn't really JK in the other episode where Clark learned Lionel knew his secret?

I wondered that for about a minute or so..lol:) But I really think that time when he saw his Dad and he told him about Lionel knowing his secret that that was really Jonathan:D

CallMeClark

05-05-2006, 02:36 PM

No, I believe that was Pa Kent when Clark flatlines, because all he did was "warn" Clark that Lionel knew. Also, how does Brainac know about all of this?

OutlawAngel

05-05-2006, 03:25 PM

Yeah I think it was Jonathan that Clark talked to back in Void. The bright lights and Jonathans over all appearence I think showed that.

last man of krypton

05-05-2006, 06:15 PM

I loved the fight scene between "Jonathan" and Clark. I was yelling, "go on, throw the tractor at him!", and lo, he gave him the tractor! Definitely one of the best fight scenes of the season.

Also liked how "Jonathan" was goading Clark while Lionel was being strangled. 3 priceless moments came out of just a few seconds:
When Lionel says "your father would never make you a murderer".
Clark has that sudden look of realization in his eyes
Jonathan (ever so briefly) has a blank moment. (There's a The Tick episode where Arthur was cloned, and in trying to prove he's the original, the clone simply states "I, Arthur". I imagined Jonathan saying "I, Jonathan" at that moment!)

TV_gal9

05-05-2006, 08:45 PM

I thought he did an awsome job in the epi. which in its whole was really good, but to me I didn't like the fact that the possible last time of seeing JS was asthe bad guy. I don't know maybe I just like fluffy memories. Other then that objection he did an awsome job with it.

canon

05-05-2006, 10:24 PM

His acting was always great, and it showed in this episode him playing bad. I luv it.

LionelLuthor

05-06-2006, 03:29 PM

"KILL HIM!!" was delivered with such class.

Donnie Brasco

05-06-2006, 03:38 PM

I can't believe it took Clark so long to work out it wasn't really Jonathan. I was screaming ''bravo'' when he did.

JS was cool. He pulled off the bad guy act very well.

CB2006

05-06-2006, 08:39 PM

John Schneider is a wonderful actor. He can go from one extreme to another, a warm, loving father who can show his emotions at times to evil , as he did in this episode, especially when he would smile. Not friendly but sadistic. I still prefer good Jonathan more, and I love his hair. It looks so soft and makes him look younger, back to his Bo Duke days.

ClLaLeChFAN01

05-07-2006, 01:35 AM

That Martha and Jonathan scene had me convinced that it was the ghost of Jonathan 100%. Fine really does his homework on his subjects, cause "Jonanthan" called Martha sweetheart....how else could he have known if he wasnt watching them before he died. Creepy man, creepy.

Jonathan was awesome as a villian, it creeped me out! I was on the edge of my couch!

Watching Smallville

05-07-2006, 07:40 AM

Originally posted by CB2006
John Schneider is a wonderful actor. He can go from one extreme to another, a warm, loving father who can show his emotions at times to evil , as he did in this episode, especially when he would smile. Not friendly but sadistic. I still prefer good Jonathan more, and I love his hair. It looks so soft and makes him look younger, back to his Bo Duke days.
I agree. I've watched it again, and JS was really amazing playing Fine. He even has a James Marsters speech pattern when he talks to Clark and Martha.

I agree about the hair, too. :cool:

Keldaz

05-07-2006, 08:37 AM

The main thing was that he played the emotional card. Not the harsch card. If he did, he would have exposed himself right from the beginning.

watcher4

05-07-2006, 11:32 AM

Originally posted by TV_gal9
I thought he did an awsome job in the epi. which in its whole was really good, but to me I didn't like the fact that the possible last time of seeing JS was asthe bad guy. I don't know maybe I just like fluffy memories. Other then that objection he did an awsome job with it.

I understand what you are saying! :)

CB2006

05-07-2006, 08:43 PM

I hope too that this is not the last time we see him.
His last scene ended early and was so abrupt. Making this appearance be his last would not be fitting to the character . Jonathan was good and a loving husband and father, but I have to admit, JS did look quite fine(no pun intended) playing a bad guy.

watcher4

05-07-2006, 10:03 PM

Originally posted by CB2006
I hope too that this is not the last time we see him.

Me too!!

OutlawAngel

05-08-2006, 08:38 PM

Darn it I really am smacking myself for missing this episode. Hopefully it wont take too long for me to see it.

that girl

05-09-2006, 03:20 PM

John Schnieder kicked butt in this episode. I thought he was amazing as the villian, it sort of reminded me of Nicodemus where he went sorta crazy. But I do agree that that shouldn't be the last image we have of Jonathan Kent, he was such a force in this show and that would be a great disservice (sp?) to him.

Kalel x2x2

05-10-2006, 07:49 AM

Originally posted by MBCorp
I thought it was really chilling when he was taunting Clark. JS rocked in this episode!

woord

Sweetie

05-10-2006, 07:53 AM

John is extremely talented.I was so glad to see him again...I loved the evil look in his eyes...He was great...:cool:

canon

05-10-2006, 02:42 PM

John Schneider's acting was superb.

Joelito

05-10-2006, 06:54 PM

Is hard to see pa' Kent as evil...but agree was a very good acting there :)

watcher4

05-11-2006, 12:32 AM

It is nice to see JK/JS receiving this kind of positive feedback.:)

SEE THERE, TPTB!!

Lonnietoons

08-11-2010, 02:27 PM

I do realize I'm years behind, but gimme a break lol.
I thought he did awesome! I mean from the first second we saw him I kinda guessed it wasn't Jonathan because of his stance and behavior. It reminded me of Milton Fine at once. But the fact that he kinda plays two characters at the same time is awesome to watch. He's Milton potraying Jonathan as perfect as he can and although he's good - there's these small hints that proves it's not the real Daddy-o.
I loved the fight in the barn and the fluffy hair lol. It also made him look a little different from Jonathan and more villian-ish. Oh and I just love when he "strangles" Clark and says "It would've been soo easy to snap your neck just like a twig."