What is Lois' point in coming to talk to Clark about Lana?

[sstray72]

Why is it any of her business like Clark said?? He wasn't even worrying about Lana when she came in.

[AnimeJoe]

Yeah but when she last left Clark he was in stalker mode at Lana's place...

So Lois just wants him to end his career as a stalker and not wind up in jail!!

[Rafael122]

Its code for "Clark, you fool, I want you."

[TrevorH]

Originally posted by Rafael122
Its code for "Clark, you fool, I want you."
Not yet she does not feel that way, but with her knee up on the couch that did look really flirty.

[chloefan5]

just a way to rope Lois into the plot, but the Harley metaphor was great

[myankskent]

These Lois and Clark scenes are so forced with foreshadowing. It's getting way out of hand.

[clarksmuse]

Originally posted by Rafael122
Its code for "Clark, you fool, I want you."

:lol: :lol: :lol: How funny!
I think they were trying to put in a "tender" moment to build the tension for the "TBC" ending. And also, they've been building this relationship between Clark and Lois, so I have a feeling they're just dropping huge anvils again. :p

[F-Stop Blues]

Originally posted by Rafael122
Its code for "Clark, you fool, I want you."



Word. She wants to jump his bones.

[Ephrils]

Foreshadowing :) Please, she seems to the one lately who makes Clark feel better. Chloe's role has moved onto the Willow side of the story.

[bluegayle]

Actually I didnt feel like the foreshadowing of this Harley was for Lois, strangely enough. (compared to the others that we have seen). A common twist in film is to show the next person in the scene as the one they are talking about. That was Chloe.

[F-Stop Blues]

I didnt think it was that big of anvil, she was just giving him advice. I liked the Harley line though.

[Rafael122]

Yeah, I mean lets get real here fellas...they've been dropping atomic bombs on those two for the whole season.

[bluegayle]

Originally posted by Ephrils
Foreshadowing :) Please, she seems to the one lately who makes Clark feel better. Chloe's role has moved onto the Willow side of the story.

Disagree, Chloe still has a strong role in calming Clark down when he's upset or angry. Today Lionel, Chloe, and Martha all questioned why JK would ask Clark to kill someone.

[Smallvillejade#1]

Originally posted by Rafael122
Its code for "Clark, you fool, I want you."

I know I would if I were her! ;) :p



Originally posted by chloefan5
just a way to rope Lois into the plot, but the Harley metaphor was great

I agree completely!

[amberdawn]

Originally posted by bluegayle
Actually I didnt feel like the foreshadowing of this Harley was for Lois, strangely enough. (compared to the others that we have seen). A common twist in film is to show the next person in the scene as the one they are talking about. That was Chloe.
I dont think it was Chloe. I got some Clois vibes from that scene lol. Like something is going to happen next season, not necessarily romance, but maybe Clark having feelings for her.

[opera_ghost]

Originally posted by Rafael122
Its code for "Clark, you fool, I want you."

*Something like that.*

[Rafael122]

But did you see that smile though from Lois to Clark? It was the "I still dream about the night I found you in the corn field naked" type smile.

[sstray72]

As much as I'd want the "Harley" comment to be for Chloe, all anvil-atious comments are Clois-related because that's the only way that TPTB can make us remember that this is supposedly the Lois of Superman anthology... :rolleyes:

[opera_ghost]

actually I was thinking about a lot of things there....

especially since they are now even in the whole... "I've seen you naked" dept.

I was thinking about Martha's words to her about her fascination with the bad boy.... and that it would help her to recognize when the right man comes along... maybe she is beginning to think clark may be...

but by the time they meet again in metropolis... her really bad memory doesn't recognize him completely because of the whole 'mild-mannered' reporter/supergeek. (Since they are going with the movie clark/kal-el over the comic book clark/kal-el.

plus after she got over the shock of it... she seemed to like the look on his face when he did see her naked.

[savingpeoplething]

Originally posted by myankskent
These Lois and Clark scenes are so forced with foreshadowing. It's getting way out of hand.

It's nice to know I'm not the only one who feels this way :)
I mean, every once in a while, I could handle it. But, come on!...EVERY EPISODE???!!!
You shouldn't have to go so heavy with the Clark and Lois hints. I mean, we all know it, right?
I would rather not feel like I was being bludgeoned with this.
The only way I am able to put up with the conversation between Clark and Lois in the loft was that it did seem like it was foreshadowing for Chloe.
And, does it not bother anyone that Lois (who at one time had a huge problem with Lex and threatened Lionel) is now becoming friends with Lana, Lex's girlfriend?
At least, Chloe stood up to her about that and didn't have "girl talk"...I don't know. Just doesn't sit well with me.

[Kal-El1978]

This Lois will never work in Smallville. They casted the wrong girl. It would be better if Kristin played Lois and Erika played Lana. Kristin would make a better Lois. Erika just does not feel right in the part. So yes the fore shadowing with Lois and Clark is really brutal.

[Somebodyfrommetropolis]

It was great Clois--they've been having a lot of it lately!

[amberdawn]

I think so too, I love those Clois moments. And guys, please dont bash Lois in this thread!

[Rafael122]

Originally posted by Kal-El1978
This Lois will never work in Smallville. They casted the wrong girl. It would be better if Kristin played Lois and Erika played Lana. Kristin would make a better Lois. Erika just does not feel right in the part.

You're about 5 years too late there.

[wildcat]

^ He is a little late, but I have to admit, the thought has crossed my mind too. I think Kristin would really shine if she were given an strong, intelligent rolel to play. But its a pointless subject and very off topic.

[clarksmuse]

Originally posted by opera_ghost
actually I was thinking about a lot of things there....

especially since they are now even in the whole... "I've seen you naked" dept.

I was thinking about Martha's words to her about her fascination with the bad boy.... and that it would help her to recognize when the right man comes along... maybe she is beginning to think clark may be...

but by the time they meet again in metropolis... her really bad memory doesn't recognize him completely because of the whole 'mild-mannered' reporter/supergeek. (Since they are going with the movie clark/kal-el over the comic book clark/kal-el.

plus after she got over the shock of it... she seemed to like the look on his face when he did see her naked.

A very well-phrased post. I like it and agree with it!

[eas]

Originally posted by Rafael122
But did you see that smile though from Lois to Clark? It was the "I still dream about the night I found you in the corn field naked" type smile.

:rotfl:

And his answering smile was probably, "I've seen you naked out of the shower & I've been having some interesting dreams about harleys...."

[shinedown]

it almost seemed as though when chloe came up she had interruptted a really serious intense moment. ahhh so sweet!!!!

[cmm]

Originally posted by Kal-El1978
This Lois will never work in Smallville. They casted the wrong girl. It would be better if Kristin played Lois and Erika played Lana. Kristin would make a better Lois. Erika just does not feel right in the part. So yes the fore shadowing with Lois and Clark is really brutal.

I don't think kristen would make a better lois. Dont' get me wrong she's not a bad actress she just couldnt' play lois lane. Erica on the other hand plays the brash side of lois up too much but shes not a bad lois. I blame the writers they've altered her.

[angelfire east]

Lois was trying to be a good friend to Clark and Lana by getting Clark advice.

[F-Stop Blues]

Originally posted by angelfire east
Lois was trying to be a good friend to Clark and Lana by getting Clark advice.

I agree, she doesnt want to see Clark mope. Plus for all she knows Clark was beign weird Stalkerman in Lana's dorm, so she's trying to get him to move past that. I thought it was sweet and I'm glad that they can have those kind of conversations with each other.

[SnarkMasterJ]

When I read the title of this thread, I got myself all excited...but then I realized I'd only read "What is Lois' point" and not the rest. I would've happily chimed in with "she's supposed to have a point?"

Right, like I'm gonna buy this toasted attempt at an anvil with a whole season and a half of painful sibling spat scenes in the bank. The Clois is random and forced and retarded. Frankly, the only thing it made me do was laugh..and maybe throw up a little in my mouth.

[myankskent]

Originally posted by SnarkMasterJ
When I read the title of this thread, I got myself all excited...but then I realized I'd only read "What is Lois' point" and not the rest. I would've happily chimed in with "she's supposed to have a point?"

Right, like I'm gonna buy this toasted attempt at an anvil with a whole season and a half of painful sibling spat scenes in the bank. The Clois is random and forced and retarded. Frankly, the only thing it made me do was laugh..and maybe throw up a little in my mouth.

The foreshadowing needs to stop. I don't care what happens in the future. This is Smallville. Get rid of Durance, let her go take her top off in some horror movies.

[DanaButterfly]

Originally posted by myankskent
The foreshadowing needs to stop. I don't care what happens in the future. This is Smallville. Get rid of Durance, let her go take her top off in some horror movies.

I don't appreciate your attacks on the actress. If you don't have anything constructive to say about the show, then please keep your actor hate to yourself.

Well, 99.9% of people DO care what happens in the future. The premise of Smallville was to see Clark Kent's struggles as a young man and how those struggles MAKE him Superman.

We're on the cusp of Clark moving INTO his future so if you don't care what happens in the future go pull out DVDs of Seasons 1 and 2 and watch those. The show is moving forward.

And a HUGE part of Clark's future IS Lois Lane. That's the way it is, whether you like it or not. :)

[myankskent]

Originally posted by DanaButterfly
I don't appreciate your attacks on the actress. If you don't have anything constructive to say about the show, then please keep your actor hate to yourself.

Well, 99.9% of people DO care what happens in the future. The premise of Smallville was to see Clark Kent's struggles as a young man and how those struggles MAKE him Superman.

We're on the cusp of Clark moving INTO his future so if you don't care what happens in the future go pull out DVDs of Seasons 1 and 2 and watch those. The show is moving forward.

And a HUGE part of Clark's future IS Lois Lane. That's the way it is, whether you like it or not. :)

I know that Lois Lane is Clark's future, I just don't need to be reminded of it every single episode. It's overkill. Plus, Lois and Clark might not even hook up on this show. That still remains to be seen.

[DanaButterfly]

Originally posted by myankskent
I know that Lois Lane is Clark's future, I just don't need to be reminded of it every single episode. It's overkill. Plus, Lois and Clark might not even hook up on this show. That still remains to be seen.

I don't follow your logic of being "reminded of it [Clois] every single episode," because Lois isn't in every single episode. There have been a lot less anvils this season, actually. And, the fact that when Clark and Lois are in a room together, every fan of theirs can't help but grin and think of the future. That's just the way it is.

It's NOT overkill. If anything on this show is overkill, it's the redundant conversation Clark and Lana have had (usually in the loft) about their "relationship," Clark moping over Lana, and people saying how fantastic Lana is (when she's really not) for the last five years.

The show is moving on. The characters are evolving. They're not fifteen anymore. They've had some life experiences.

I don't expect Clark and Lois to hook up on Smallville. Clark's not ready to handle a woman like Lois yet. He still needs to learn to accept and love himself before he can open his heart and truly let a woman in. And yes, he is going to do that with Lois.

If Clark and Lois do happen on Smallville, it'll be a pleasant surprise. And, if they do plan any kind of romance between the two, I expect Clark to be the first one with feelings for Lois, as it has been since 1938 (I apologize if I got the year wrong).

[myankskent]

Originally posted by DanaButterfly
I don't follow your logic of being "reminded of it [Clois] every single episode," because Lois isn't in every single episode. There have been a lot less anvils this season, actually. And, the fact that when Clark and Lois are in a room together, every fan of theirs can't help but grin and think of the future. That's just the way it is.

It's NOT overkill. If anything on this show is overkill, it's the redundant conversation Clark and Lana have had (usually in the loft) about their "relationship," Clark moping over Lana, and people saying how fantastic Lana is (when she's really not) for the last five years.

The show is moving on. The characters are evolving. They're not fifteen anymore. They've had some life experiences.

I don't expect Clark and Lois to hook up on Smallville. Clark's not ready to handle a woman like Lois yet. He still needs to learn to accept and love himself before he can open his heart and truly let a woman in. And yes, he is going to do that with Lois.

If Clark and Lois do happen on Smallville, it'll be a pleasant surprise. And, if they do plan any kind of romance between the two, I expect Clark to be the first one with feelings for Lois, as it has been since 1938 (I apologize if I got the year wrong).

It's been mentioned a lot lately. The past several episodes have had these foreshadowing moments thrown in. If you don't mind them, then fine. They're getting under my skin a little bit. Don't take it personally if I don't like it. I'm sure you hate things that I like and vice versa.

[LuckyKrypto]

Originally posted by myankskent
The foreshadowing needs to stop. I don't care what happens in the future. This is Smallville. Get rid of Durance, let her go take her top off in some horror movies.

I think there is a little too much reading into some of the moments between Lois and Clark. I really like what they are trying to do with these two. I find it hard to believe that they are just going to throw these two together now that Lana and Clark are no longer together.

I also think, that just like we are watching Clark grow and do stupid things, we are also seeing that with Lois. She's not perfect, none of these characters are.
I have to laugh at times when I hear the 'this is smallville' thing.:) Every story about Superman puts it's own twist on the story, Smallville is no different.
I for one am really enjoying the whole Lex and brainiac thing, and I am pretty sure I have never read a story like what I am seeing on Smallville...but it's good, I like it!

[myankskent]

Originally posted by LuckyKrypto
I think there is a little too much reading into some of the moments between Lois and Clark. I really like what they are trying to do with these two. I find it hard to believe that they are just going to throw these two together now that Lana and Clark are no longer together.

I also think, that just like we are watching Clark grow and do stupid things, we are also seeing that with Lois. She's not perfect, none of these characters are.
I have to laugh at times when I hear the 'this is smallville' thing.:) Every story about Superman puts it's own twist on the story, Smallville is no different.
I for one am really enjoying the whole Lex and brainiac thing, and I am pretty sure I have never read a story like what I am seeing on Smallville...but it's good, I like it!

I hear ya. To me, the whole Lois and Clark thing bothers me because you have Chloe around too. I don't like all of this Chloe=Lois talk and stuff like that. I'd rather the whole situation become more clear cut between Clark, Chloe and Lois.

[SammyDavisSr]

Originally posted by myankskent
I know that Lois Lane is Clark's future, I just don't need to be reminded of it every single episode. It's overkill. Plus, Lois and Clark might not even hook up on this show. That still remains to be seen.

I would find it annoying if it didn't serve a greater purpose. The chat with Martha last week and the loft scene with Clark this week did more than just drop hints that Lois and Clark will some day be together. These scenes have started making Lois a human being.

Lois has been a combination of three things for the past season or so: chest, zingers, and karate kicks. Any scene that gives Lois things like thoughts or emotions is welcome in my book. Sure, these scenes may be a little clumsy, but the end result is worth it.

Once they find the right balance between the thoughtful friend and the karate kicking smart aleck, they will have found the actual Lois Lane. I'm willing to wade through anvil infested waters to get there.

[bluegayle]

i think with baking the cake, being the only one to give Clark a gift (other than the tickets), and the loft scene, this episode was trying to portray Lois differently than the last 2 years. ie, setting up season 6 clois.

[RamonaE]

Originally posted by myankskent
These Lois and Clark scenes are so forced with foreshadowing. It's getting way out of hand.

I'm waiting for the universe to explode b/c I completely agree with you.

I'm so sick of the foreshadowing. It's like, come on already, either put Lois & Clark together or keep them friends (for now) but enough of this foreshadowing crap. We know that Lois Lane is in fact Lois Lane!

[myankskent]

Originally posted by RamonaE
I'm waiting for the universe to explode b/c I completely agree with you.

I'm so sick of the foreshadowing. It's like, come on already, either put Lois & Clark together or keep them friends (for now) but enough of this foreshadowing crap. We know that Lois Lane is in fact Lois Lane!

Yeah, I feel that the foreshadowing could kill their romance before it even starts.

[RamonaE]

Originally posted by myankskent
Get rid of Durance, let her go take her top off in some horror movies.

:rotfl: :lol: :rotfl: :lol:

[mallory]

Originally posted by myankskent
Yeah, I feel that the foreshadowing could kill their romance before it even starts.

They are putting in the Clois hints because of the fan rebellion against EDLois. Also to keep the fires burning over Chlois.

[clois1938]

I'm a fan and I love clois! In the Supes universe, Clois always reigns supreme!

[TalkinMac]

Whatever, I dont know much about the comics and stuff but I dont think they are supposed to hook up until they are both reporters at the DP.

And as for Chloe they are slowly showing her the door I just notice in the opening credits Lois is there before her...

[cloisfan4life]

there was nothing romantic about the clois scene she was actually trying to be clark's friend and was showing much of her human side. Lois is not perfect..Clark is not perfect..they are still growing and their friendship is growing. They are not bickering as much as they were. Yeah there were a lot of hints of Clois, but that's what you have to deal with it. I don't think they are gonna just push lois and clark together right away. They are still growing as friends right now and I think in season 6 they will actually become closer AS friends.

[SnarkMasterJ]

Originally posted by mallory
They are putting in the Clois hints because of the fan rebellion against EDLois. Also to keep the fires burning over Chlois.

Where did you hear that? :confused:

What I don't understand is how so many Clois fans can be happy with a totally random moment like this with no canonical interaction to back it up. Seriously: "...and sometimes I think you know me better than anyone"??? What? Maybe I'd buy EDLois being honest with him about what she thinks about something whether or not he even asked for her opinion, but I don't take that as her "knowing" anything about him. She just sees a situation and spouts off uninvited advice, hoping it'll stick. That's not having insight, that's being opinionated.

Really, the anvil was so heavy-handed, I laughed out loud. So I'm not particularly concerned about it at all. Just the placement of it bothers me. For a whole season and a half, TPTB have made these two, at best, siblings who don't even like each other. Now I'm supposed to buy EDLois's "come get it, Farm Boy" eyes while she's talking about matters of the heart with Clark of all people? Oh right, they had that other one moment last episode when he saw her naked. That must spell romance. :rolleyes:

[wildcat]

Thankyou Snarkmaster! I said almost the same thing in another post about the heavy handedness of "sometimes I think you know me better than anyone else" bit. Total bulls**t. I'm sorry but the more I see edlois the more I dislike her. She has expressionless eyes, and there's a complete lack of chemistry between them.

The vibe edllois gives off is that of a desperate woman. I hope edlois fans don't get too angry at me but that was overwhelming feeling I got watching her with him. And there is nothing more pathetic and un-lois lane like.

[justageek]

I say just get them together and get it over with. Anything is better than having him and clana together. They've turned the clana character into a whiney sap who tries to read *relationship meanings* into every tiny event. I use to like the character of clana but now she drives me up the wall.

[Watching Smallville]

Originally posted by Rafael122
Its code for "Clark, you fool, I want you."
:lol:

I didn't think this was anything new. Lois always comes and talks to him -- when she knows he's feeling bad, when she's feeling bad, when she feels like busting his chops. She came and talked to him in Blank. She came and talked to him in Aqua. She came to talk to him in Commencement. It's pretty routine at this piont. It makes sense she would come to talk to him about this.


Originally posted by LuckyKrypto
I think there is a little too much reading into some of the moments between Lois and Clark. I really like what they are trying to do with these two. I find it hard to believe that they are just going to throw these two together now that Lana and Clark are no longer together.
Yes, I agree with this.

[wildcat]

I hope I don't see clark and edlois together. I agree with you on the clana thing, but that doesn't make clark and edlois a better option... in my opinion of course.

[BadToad]

I thought she just came up to see him, give him a few friendly words of advice, and buck him up. Yes, the dialogue was a bit heavy-handed, but there was nothing wrong with Lois' motivations. She was there when the Clark/Lana confrontation took place, even though she left before she could realize that Clark wasn't "stalking" Lana (and how assinine was that to even suggest, or for Ausiello to say to people? It wasn't even in the ballpark). I like when she told him it was time for "tough love".

And yes, I do think Lois has something of a thing for Clark, though she'd probably rather eat dirt than admit it.

But I'm still glad the scene ended with him and Chloe together :)

[clarksmuse]

Originally posted by BadToad
I thought she just came up to see him, give him a few friendly words of advice, and buck him up. Yes, the dialogue was a bit heavy-handed, but there was nothing wrong with Lois' motivations. She was there when the Clark/Lana confrontation took place, even thought she left before she could realize that Clark wasn't "stalking" Lana (and how assinine was that to even suggest, or for Ausiello to say to people. It wasn't even in the ballpark). I like when she told him it was time for "tough love".

And yes, I do think Lois has something of a thing for Clark, though she'd probably rather eat dirt that admit it.

But I'm still glad the scene ended with him and Chloe together :)

Yup, I agree. I enjoy the interaction between these two characters. I see them becoming friends. Lois is starting to show a deeper side of her character: the caring human being. I enjoy her snarky-ness, but I think I'd rather see a little bit more of her humanity. That's why I've enjoyed the Lois scenes in this episode.

[liana]

I don't get why Lois is not allowed to talk to Clark and try to help him through a bad breakup. Is she a monster because she cares about him? It is not like that this is the first time this happen. In Gone, she talked to him about Lana. In Lucy he talked with her twice about her relatioship with her sister. First when he said she sounded "grumpier" than usual and then, at the end of the episode when he was concerned about her not going out of her room. He tried first to get Chloe to talk to her. When she did not go (and that was totally O.O.C. for Chloe, because she and Lois are friends) he did the talking. Lois also talked to him in Blank when he was amnesiac and concerned because he didn't know whom to trust. She talked about her story of relationships in Acqua as well. So, it was not the first time one or the other offered advice. What is new? They had also admitted to be friends. They argue, they fight, but on the end of the day, they are friends. They are not the best friends, but they care about each other. I really don't see what is the matter with that, really. His best friend is still Chloe. She is just another friend.

[gmniMan]

Originally posted by wildcat
I'm sorry but the more I see edlois the more I dislike her. She has expressionless eyes, and there's a complete lack of chemistry between them.
In the beginning I was all excited with the introduction of ED as Lois in SV. But as S4 dragged on, I was getting less and less excited with ED playing the role. Somehow she did not come out as the Lois Lane whom I have known for nearly half century.

Please don't get me wrong, ED is a wonderfully talented and beautiful actress, but maybe TPTB have given her their own version of LL that they wanted her to portray. So I believed ED came up with her way of giving TPTB what they wanted and the chemistry IMO did not came out quite to my taste. It is the combination of ideas that was not quite right. However TPTB must have like what they saw.

Personally I would have prefered a Lois with a slightly softer edge than ED. Well not quite what Kristin would have come up with, but maybe more like what I think Lisa Sheridan of Invasion could have done... but then that is just my personal taste.

O BTW I am a Clois person and I just love the subtle development in the relationshop between CK and Lois. Well whether it happens in SV or not, it does stir an excitement in me to be reminded that Clois is the way the fairy tale ends... and they lived happily ever after!

Soon Smallville will just be a memory and Metropolis will take up center stage.

[RedKriptoniteRepoter]

I didn't mind the loft scene. At least the writers are attempting to make Lois a kinder, softer person. People are always complaining that Lois is too sarcastic and annoying. When she's finally nice to Clark, people go berserk......

Although the foreshadowing is ridiculous.
WE GET IT! Lois end up with Clark. Is this really necessary?