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Lexgirl33
05-04-2006, 06:38 PM
How did Lex get the led box. Will someone refresh my memory please? lol

Lobo007
05-04-2006, 07:59 PM
Where he got it, I don't know. It wasn't the same one he gave Clark in Season 1. I think.

cherryblu
05-04-2006, 10:28 PM
It looked like the same one he gave Clark. But also remember that Clark gave said box to Lana after, I believe, his show-down with Eric Summers in the episode Leech, when they were struck by lightning and Clark's powers were transfered to Eric, and Eric was getting all destructive and Clark started feeling guilty and went to Lana to borrow her Kryptonite necklace. When Clark returned the necklace, it was kept in said lead box, and we've all seen how Lana's getting all snuggly-wuggly with Lex, so.....anybody's guess on how Lex got the box is as good as mine.

ps.....I have the urge to share that Marsters isn't getting enough screen time on SV as Fine/Brainiac. I think he's doing a loverly job on SV!!!

StealthyMakoto
05-04-2006, 10:30 PM
Well Lana is the one who told him about meteor rocks/kryptonite being able to kill the 'aliens', so I'm betting she gave it to him.

Lexgirl33
05-04-2006, 10:32 PM
Yeah I definatly second your oppinion on JM! I thought Clark gave Lana's necklace back by hanging it on her door handle, but I guess that was the first time. So we have another plot hole :lol:

smallville86
05-04-2006, 10:40 PM
or a shortage or props....

PKII
05-04-2006, 10:54 PM
Originally posted by Lexgirl33
How did Lex get the led box. Will someone refresh my memory please? lol Clark gave it to Lana. Lana must have given it to LEX ;)

Lexgirl33
05-04-2006, 10:56 PM
Okay then :D Thanks

TampaVille
05-05-2006, 12:28 AM
Yeah, Clark definitely gave it to Lana, horribly misquoting Lex's awesome lead armor story (which Lex quoted pretty well from Lionel's account a decade earlier... silly alien). I believe we can assume Lana gave it to Lex. My problem is this: was Lex keeping the Kryptonite in a lead box so it wouldn't affect Fine until he was ready to use it? If that's the case, we've got a big problem. Lana knows "their home is their only poison," but no Kryptonian oracle ever told her "lead is their only defense."

kf6tac
05-05-2006, 01:25 AM
Well, Lex, Lionel, and LuthorCorp in general have done so much random stuff with Kryptonite over the past 5 seasons, that Lex would probably have to be an idiot to not have figured out by now that Kryptonite gives off radiation. And when you're trying to hide a chunk of radioactive rock from a suspected alien until you're ready to use it, you'd darn well better put it in something that will also mask its radiation emissions.

RedPhoenix23
05-05-2006, 01:27 AM
Originally posted by Lexgirl33
Yeah I definatly second your oppinion on JM! I thought Clark gave Lana's necklace back by hanging it on her door handle, but I guess that was the first time. So we have another plot hole :lol:

He did that in Metamorphasis, but he kept the box that Lex gave to him and when Clark borrowed Lana's necklace in Leech - he returned it in the lead box, that way she won't ask too many questions why he needed it because she has a pretty box and the he's protected from the GreenK.

superman_115
05-05-2006, 01:39 AM
Lana must have given it to Lex since she is sooooo trusting with every guy she just kisses.

puddinpiester
05-05-2006, 06:46 PM
Tina, the bone morphor is Visage, when she was impersonating Whitney the marine, asked Lana for the necklace and Lana out of quilt for breaking up with "Whitney" gave it to her/him. Tina wanted to use it against Clark, which she did in the storm cellar. That's when the ship neutralized the necklace, and turned it white and as far as I know, Clark still has it somewhere. Guess he didn't want to explain how he got it or why it is no longer green. She does get it back at some point because when the seer guy, the one who forsaw people's death (he also was the one Lana asked to teach her how to run better) saw Lana's death the first time, she had a peaceful death at a ripe old age AND she was wearing the neutralized necklace. What I don't understand is how Lex knew to conceal it in a lead container.

Watching Smallville
05-05-2006, 06:59 PM
Originally posted by Lexgirl33
Yeah I definatly second your oppinion on JM! I thought Clark gave Lana's necklace back by hanging it on her door handle, but I guess that was the first time. So we have another plot hole :lol:
He hung it on her door in Metamophasis. He borrowed it from her in Leech, and gave it back to her in the box, saying the box would keep it safe. Remember she asked him if this was her way of telling her she should move on..?

I know this show way too wel... :rolleyes:

So she should still have the box -- it didnt' figure into Visaage at all. She could have given it to Lex.

puddinpiester
05-05-2006, 07:08 PM
Sorry if I made a mistake. I'll rewatch it.

liana
05-05-2006, 07:11 PM
Originally posted by Watching Smallville
He hung it on her door in Metamophasis. He borrowed it from her in Leech, and gave it back to her in the box, saying the box would keep it safe. Remember she asked him if this was her way of telling her she should move on..?

I know this show way too wel... :rolleyes:

So she should still have the box -- it didnt' figure into Visaage at all. She could have given it to Lex.

Unless the writers absolutelly forgot about Clark giving the box to Lana at all. I'm pretty sure whenever there are some kryptonite involved they always used the same box. I think I have already seen that box in Clark's farm more than once, even after he gave it to Lana. But, I might be wrong, of course.

There is another explanation, of course. That after Lex gave Clark that box, he had another one made for himself, or that there was more than one. Wasn't that box a gift his mother gave him? Maybe she gave him more than one.

Watching Smallville
05-05-2006, 07:14 PM
That was the box that Lionel told the story about in Memoria at Lex's failed birthday party. I doubt there would be 2 of them. It's a very significant box. -- Now I have to watch Oracle again...

puddinpiester
05-05-2006, 07:17 PM
Unless, my DVDs are mislabeled, Tina did in fact get the necklace from Lana in Visage and she put it around Clark's lovely neck and tossed him into the storm cellar, then she tied him up, took on his appearance, and left him to die. The ship, however, intervened, neutralized the necklace, and Clark raced off to save Lana.

kismet
05-05-2006, 07:17 PM
yes but in visage the ship neutralized the necklace....

Watching Smallville
05-05-2006, 07:17 PM
Right. But that doesn't affect the box. Lana took the necklace from around her neck when she gave it to Tina/Whitney.

kismet
05-05-2006, 07:18 PM
and clark was looking at it when he decided to destroy the ship with the kryptonite key at the end of season two.

true good point then lana must have given the box to lex

puddinpiester
05-05-2006, 07:18 PM
Unless, my DVDs are mislabeled, Tina did in fact get the necklace from Lana in Visage and she put it around Clark's lovely neck and tossed him into the storm cellar, then she tied him up, took his appearance, and left him to die. The ship, however, intervened, neutralized the necklace, and Clark raced off to save Lana.

I'm talking about the necklace here, not the box.

Watching Smallville
05-05-2006, 07:20 PM
Yes, that's as I remember it.

liana
05-05-2006, 07:23 PM
Originally posted by Watching Smallville
That was the box that Lionel told the story about in Memoria at Lex's failed birthday party. I doubt there would be 2 of them. It's a very significant box. -- Now I have to watch Oracle again...

Wasn't it made from a Saint Armor? That's what I remember not from Memoria, but from the episode when Lex gave it to Clark and told him the box story. That's why I thought it was Lilian who gave it to Lex.

Superman_Beyond
05-05-2006, 07:30 PM
You know when i glanced at the topic of this thread, it looked like it said Lex Bod. Weird.

Watching Smallville
05-05-2006, 07:59 PM
Originally posted by liana
Wasn't it made from a Saint Armor? That's what I remember not from Memoria, but from the episode when Lex gave it to Clark and told him the box story. That's why I thought it was Lilian who gave it to Lex.
I believe it was from Lillian -- but she was deep in her postpartum, pre-infanticide depression. So Lionel ended up giving him the box. I think it was the St. George and the dragon story.

liana
05-05-2006, 10:33 PM
Originally posted by Watching Smallville
I believe it was from Lillian -- but she was deep in her postpartum, pre-infanticide depression. So Lionel ended up giving him the box. I think it was the St. George and the dragon story.

Exactly! Thanks for helping me remember.

dhacker615
05-05-2006, 10:39 PM
Originally posted by Lexgirl33
How did Lex get the led box. Will someone refresh my memory please? lol

From his mother (via Lionel) in 'Memoria'. It was made from the armour of a dragon slayer if recall correctly.

canon
05-05-2006, 10:42 PM
In Talisman, Clark was protecting himself from Green K before Jeremy came (barn scene). Wasn't it in the same lead box that Lex gave him? So, how is it that Lex had the same lead box? The box is supposed to be one of a kind. Maybe Smallville86 was right to say shortage of props

Watching Smallville
05-05-2006, 10:46 PM
I thought that was a different box -- plainer.

Honestly -- all these continuity details can give you a headache.:rolleyes:

PKII
05-05-2006, 10:52 PM
Originally posted by RedPhoenix23
He did that in Metamorphasis, but he kept the box that Lex gave to him and when Clark borrowed Lana's necklace in Leech - he returned it in the lead box, that way she won't ask too many questions why he needed it because she has a pretty box and the he's protected from the GreenK. lol he had to give her the box because he be awlful sick looking trying to give it to her out of the box. :lol:

puddinpiester
05-06-2006, 06:17 AM
I checked Visage. Lana had a lead box in Visage. She kept the necklace in it tucked away in her tool chest along with some Whitney photos. It the beginning when Clark was repairing her leaky sink, Lana was returning the wrench to the tool chest when she opened it up only to make Clark sick with the necklace inside. I think that was the last epi in which Lana saw her necklace. If Clark had THE box at the end of season two, I don't remember how he got it.

Dangerous George
05-06-2006, 07:30 AM
Well,

Didn't Lana know that Clark was shot by a "special bullet" made by the fella now on Desperate Housewives and later when he captured her and Clark met them at the school after Poppa Kent removed said bullet out of Clark and said fella unloaded a clip into Clark who was wearing that homemade lead vest, (whew too long), that Lana was then informed by Clark that the vest protected him, . . . she has to have some memory of such, (course as we all painfully know about the lack of continuity on this show), perhaps she drew from this memory that lead would be the key or perhaps her dealing with the Aliens in the first episode gave her a clue regarding their reaction when they opened the vault at Lex's pad - awww that's too much of a stretch - lol

this is the problem with this show, it is all over the place, there is no continuity - very frustrating

peace

euterpe
05-07-2006, 05:58 PM
This show has always had severe problems with continuity. As far as I can reason, Lana was the last one to have possession of the lead box that was given to Lex by his mother (via Lionel). And it did look to me to be the same box used in 'Oracle'. The lead box Clark uses in other episodes is more cube-shaped whereas this box is more rectangular.

The only way Lex could have gained possession was for Lana to have returned it to him. Though why she would have done that makes no sense. Clark never told her the box had belonged to Lex.

Also, I don't recall Van ever telling Lana what the special bullet he used to "kill" Clark was made of, only that it was "special". I don't find Lana to be bright enough to figure out that lead would protect Kryptonians from Kryptonite.

I was wondering why it began to glow when Lex opened the box. If Fine is not affected by it because he's not Kryptonian, why did it glow?

TampaVille
05-07-2006, 10:22 PM
Maybe it recognized him as being of Kryptonian origin? Or just a silly effect =)

Dangerous George
05-09-2006, 07:10 PM
no, no, no. another hole in the continuity. that's the only way to explain the glowing rock. well for sure, it's just about "par for the course" of Smallville. lol

you see this is why one has to take each episode as an independent thought and not try to link them together. To link them together one becomes confused and dizzy from trying to wrap one’s brain around the thrust of a show that is laced with inconsistencies up the ying yang. Can you imagine what the actors go through trying to sell it? Bet there are a lot “cuts” in the “takes” from just the outright bursts of laughter of the cast trying to keep a straight face in selling this stuff. lol.

peace