View Full Version : "He's not my boyfriend..."
Rafael122
05-04-2006, 06:10 PM
Right, and I like to swap spit with giraffes.
DarkKnight32
05-04-2006, 06:10 PM
Friends with benefits
redraven
05-04-2006, 06:11 PM
No matter how much I liked hearing that..Why the hell is she even with him if she would deny it like that? :rolleyes:
Hurricain
05-04-2006, 06:15 PM
Every episode I like her even less.
attitudejc
05-04-2006, 06:15 PM
*gasp* surprise surprise......
charmedchick
05-04-2006, 06:16 PM
Im loving it. lol..
Trunkz
05-04-2006, 06:17 PM
lana is too lame nowadays... why lie to louis? who is she to you? if u can tell clark.. why not louis..
bluegayle
05-04-2006, 06:17 PM
Guess it was a case of "need to know" and Lois didn't need to know. Of course, she figured it out anyway. Another reason Lana can't be trusted with a secret. Hehe, j/k..I know that's getting old.
F-Stop Blues
05-04-2006, 06:17 PM
Im sorry but Lana and Lois hate each other. Its obvious.
shy175223
05-04-2006, 06:17 PM
not her boyfriend? maybe she is trying to deny herself that.
Nospam
05-04-2006, 06:23 PM
Originally posted by Trunkz
lana is too lame nowadays... why lie to louis? who is she to you? if u can tell clark.. why not louis..
Exactly! Um, who is Louis?
chloefan5
05-04-2006, 06:27 PM
i couldn't help laughing at Lana when she said that
sstray72
05-04-2006, 06:28 PM
I don't see what the point in lying to Lois was. She already told Clark about it, I guess that was just a contrived way to make Lois her friend.
TW1977
05-04-2006, 06:28 PM
I thought she said she didn't want to LIE like CLARK did!!!!! Guess who's LIEING NOW!
redraven
05-04-2006, 06:29 PM
:lol:
fifi1277
05-04-2006, 06:33 PM
Does she always kiss guys passionately who are not her boyfriend?
I hate to think what that makes her.
TW1977
05-04-2006, 06:41 PM
Yeah really!...lol...
Kal-El1978
05-04-2006, 07:05 PM
How about when Lois said the "bad boy syndrome"...I lauphed so hard. Why is Lana not admitting that Lex is bad news. Either something is up or Lana's charcter should die soon. She is getting super annoying and I can't stand her and Lex together.
myankskent
05-04-2006, 07:06 PM
Interestingly enough, no lexana kiss this episode. I guess the writers finally realized that most of the fans puked last week at the sight of it.
Aloof
05-04-2006, 07:08 PM
:rolleyes:
That was weird, I yelled at my TV: "Then what!" :lol:
Lexana made the ratings go down. When they have too much Lana in the show, that's when "That 70's Show" reruns out perform Smallville. I hope Lana moves away next season and only makes cameo appearances. Bring on Lois. Bring on someone new. Anyone but Lana. This is about the writers who have made her so annoying. Nothing against KK. KK probably wants to be written out instead of having to say lame lines and be associated with such a "Yuckie" character right now.
F-Stop Blues
05-04-2006, 08:13 PM
Im annoyed that Lois and Lana are passing off as friends. Was it just me or was their conversation in the talon not so friendly. But now all of a sudden Lois is a good listener for Lana.
FiveForFighting09
05-04-2006, 08:14 PM
Originally posted by DarkKnight32
Friends with benefits
yes friends with ALOT!!!of benefits.;)
muffinpeddler
05-04-2006, 08:15 PM
So....we had to listen to "Lies, lies lies, secrets, secrets, blah, blah, blah, me, me, me".....so that Lana herself can lie? Wtf?
Aloof
05-04-2006, 08:16 PM
Lana is a hypocrite!
myankskent
05-04-2006, 08:17 PM
Originally posted by muffinpeddler
So....we had to listen to "Lies, lies lies, secrets, secrets, blah, blah, blah, me, me, me".....so that Lana herself can lie? Wtf?
Lana isn't lying, nor is lex. They are actually two of the most honest people in the show right now. Lana even told Clark where the lab was.
xrayvision
05-04-2006, 08:19 PM
Originally posted by FiveForFighting09
yes friends with ALOT!!!of benefits.;)
Lois and Lana friends with benefits? Interesting. :p
Originally posted by fifi1277
Does she always kiss guys passionately who are not her boyfriend?
I hate to think what that makes her.
By the way, I'm not Lana's boyfriend.
Clanafan731
05-04-2006, 08:19 PM
What are Lana's intentions with Lex? You have to wonder. If he's not her boyfriend to everyone else but Clark and Chloe, then what is he? Just someone to make Clark jealous? Well, if it is, then it's working.
xrayvision
05-04-2006, 08:20 PM
Originally posted by Rafael122
Right, and I like to swap spit with giraffes.
Maybe she was saying it so it doesn't get out to the public. Then again, she said Lois wasn't the rumor mill type. Who knows.
Aloof
05-04-2006, 08:21 PM
I don't think Lana is getting with Lex to make Clark jealous. There's a lot of uncertainty going on. Even I can't answer why Lana is with Lex. I really want to know, too.
myankskent
05-04-2006, 08:21 PM
Originally posted by Clanafan731
What are Lana's intentions with Lex? You have to wonder. If he's not her boyfriend to everyone else but Clark and Chloe, then what is he? Just someone to make Clark jealous? Well, if it is, then it's working.
Lana could always be Brainiac just like Jonathan was. Maybe that's how Fine knew what Lex was up to at the lab.
xrayvision
05-04-2006, 08:24 PM
Good point. I can't say I like the idea of Lex smooching with a Kryptonian robot/computer.
shaula luthor
05-04-2006, 08:32 PM
Originally posted by F-Stop Blues
Im sorry but Lana and Lois hate each other. Its obvious.
Lois doensīt hate Lana. Lana perhaps hate Lois... But I donīt think so....
Aloof
05-04-2006, 08:35 PM
Originally posted by myankskent
Lana could always be Brainiac just like Jonathan was. Maybe that's how Fine knew what Lex was up to at the lab.
Nah, I highly doubt Lana is Brainiac.
myankskent
05-04-2006, 08:35 PM
Originally posted by Aloof
Nah, I highly doubt Lana is Brainiac.
Me too.
Aloof
05-04-2006, 08:36 PM
Originally posted by myankskent
Me too.
Huh? But you just said Lana could be Brainiac. :eek:
myankskent
05-04-2006, 08:39 PM
Originally posted by Aloof
Huh? But you just said Lana could be Brainiac. :eek:
I said he could be, I didn't say he was. :p
Aloof
05-04-2006, 08:40 PM
Heheh ok. ^_^' That would be awfully strange, though.
myankskent
05-04-2006, 08:41 PM
Indeed it would be.
SmallvilleMan
05-04-2006, 08:45 PM
Who knows what Lana is thinking? It isn't like you can tell anymore. Ever since reckoning or probably season 5 in general, her character has gone in about 20 different directions. I have no clue what she's going to say or do next. I wouldn't be surprised if she came out and said she didn't like men anymore. They've destroyed her character into dust.
Whatever. I don't understand how people can defend Lana's actions anymore. They're so irrational and erratic.
firefly01
05-04-2006, 08:47 PM
Yeah I don't think Lana was Brainiac, I think she's just still in denial.
SmallvilleMan
05-04-2006, 08:59 PM
Whatever. I don't understand how people can defend Lana's actions anymore. They're so irrational and erratic.
No crap! It's like they want you to hate Lana now. There is no way to defend her, no way at all.
MBCorp
05-04-2006, 09:01 PM
I don't understand why Lana made such a big deal about telling Clark that she and Lex are now together in Fade and yet denied being involved with him in this episode. Makes absolutely no sense at all.
Theshadow129x
05-04-2006, 09:02 PM
yea lana said they werent together
I told everyone lana liked the pipe and it wasnt all about feelings.
this is just about the pipe and lana loves pipe she gets it from ever plumber on the block
firefly01
05-04-2006, 09:02 PM
She sounds like she's being nit-picky. She's "seeing him," but they're not an "official couple." LOL, whatever. Maybe Lana just didn't want to talk to Lois about it?
SmallvilleMan
05-04-2006, 09:04 PM
There is no way to justify this, no way to make sense of it. The moral of the story is this: They've killed Lana's character and are just using to, heck i don't even know. They use it for their own personal joke.
myankskent
05-04-2006, 09:06 PM
Originally posted by MBCorp
I don't understand why Lana made such a big deal about telling Clark that she and Lex are now together in Fade and yet denied being involved with him in this episode. Makes absolutely no sense at all.
This whole season makes no sense with the ships. Clana broke up like 4 times and Lexana seems to be going the same route. One episode, they're friends, then they kiss, then it was a mistake, then they kiss again and appear to be dating, then they are not boyfriend/girlfriend. I mean give me a break.
As far as Lana's character is concerned, it's becoming clear to me that she really wants honesty. Lex was totally honest with her in this episode about what he was doing with Fine, even though Lana knowing could put her in danger, and Lex told her as much. Clark would never do that, so on one hand it makes Clark look like a better guy than Lex, but on the other, Lana wants in on everything even if it puts her in the battle fields.
SmallvilleMan
05-04-2006, 09:08 PM
No, Lex doesn't tell her the truth imo. He sprinkles in some of the truth to one big lie. He's good at lying, that it makes him seem honest.
myankskent
05-04-2006, 09:11 PM
Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
No, Lex doesn't tell her the truth imo. He sprinkles in some of the truth to one big lie. He's good at lying, that it makes him seem honest.
I agree, but not this episode. He told her everything. The ship found in Honduras, the fact that he was working on the vaccine with Fine and the fact that he suspected that Fine came out of the ship. That was complete honesty that we saw from Lex in this episode, as much as it pains me to say.
SmallvilleMan
05-04-2006, 09:14 PM
Off course it took him how long to tell her? Hmmm.... That should send off some red signs, but off course this new Lana is stupid.
myankskent
05-04-2006, 09:17 PM
Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
Off course it took him how long to tell her? Hmmm.... That should send off some red signs, but off course this new Lana is stupid.
Yeah, but he told her that he was trying to decide whether or not to tell her because of the fact that it could put her in danger. He's only been working on this with Fine since Hypnotic. But the point is that he told her. Just like if Clark told her the truth, she would understand as well. But if you keep things from her that are noticeable, that is unacceptable to Lana. That may be wrong of her to do, but that's the way she is.
kkjdt
05-04-2006, 09:18 PM
I can't figure out Lana and I hate Lexana..... I really wish Lana knew Clarks secret........ even if they never get together... wish she knew the sacrific he made for her...
SmallvilleMan
05-04-2006, 09:23 PM
Yeah, but he told her that he was trying to decide whether or not to tell her because of the fact that it could put her in danger. He's only been working on this with Fine since Hypnotic. But the point is that he told her. Just like if Clark told her the truth, she would understand as well. But if you keep things from her that are noticeable, that is unacceptable to Lana. That may be wrong of her to do, but that's the way she is.
I hear the BS sirons going off my Lex's little confession. Lana wants the truth so very much right now, I agree with that, but that will only last so long IMO.
myankskent
05-04-2006, 09:27 PM
Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
I hear the BS sirons going off my Lex's little confession. Lana wants the truth so very much right now, I agree with that, but that will only last so long IMO.
Well Lex is going to have to blatantly lie to her or show that he is evil for her to leave him. The only other way it could happen is if she learns about Clark's secret and realizes why Clark broke up with her.
dusk soldier
05-04-2006, 09:28 PM
Originally posted by Rafael122
Right, and I like to swap spit with giraffes. She was talking about Clark.
SmallvilleMan
05-04-2006, 09:30 PM
Well Lex is going to have to blatantly lie to her or show that he is evil for her to leave him. The only other way it could happen is if she learns about Clark's secret and realizes why Clark broke up with her.
Probably, because she has no else. It wouldn't matter even if she didnt love him, she'd fake it.
myankskent
05-04-2006, 09:32 PM
Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
Probably, because she has no else. It wouldn't matter even if she didnt love him, she'd fake it.
They're not that serious into the relationship yet though. The Lexana relationship is just as inconsistent as the Clana one. One episode you see one thing and the next you see another.
SmallvilleMan
05-04-2006, 09:35 PM
Oh, I think the clana relationship was pretty clear cut. They loved each other, but if he didn't tell her his secret it was over. Lana would loved him so much, she would ignore whatever happened the previous week and move on. A little more predictable IMO, but still goofy.
myankskent
05-04-2006, 09:38 PM
Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
Oh, I think the clana relationship was pretty clear cut. They loved each other, but if he didn't tell her his secret it was over. Lana would loved him so much, she would ignore whatever happened the previous week and move on. A little more predictable IMO, but still goofy.
Well by inconsistent, I mean that the writers decided to break them up like 4 times. And now with Lexana, you just don't know what to think. Lana didn't refer to Lex as her boyfriend and there were no intimate moments between Lex and Lana this episode. Not even holding hands or giving the other person a hug. Very strange for what is supposed to be a budding romance.
SmallvilleMan
05-04-2006, 09:40 PM
Yeah, I meant there was actually a good reason behind what Clark and Lana do. I mean, not really a good reason, but a reason that's understandable. The secrets do that.
myankskent
05-04-2006, 09:44 PM
Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
Yeah, I meant there was actually a good reason behind what Clark and Lana do. I mean, not really a good reason, but a reason that's understandable. The secrets do that.
Right, that was consistent, painfully consistent. But Lexana never did anything for me, and if anything, it has become more unclear this episode. When Clark and Lana were together, for those few episodes over the course of 5 seasons, you always got the impression that they were together. They flirted with each other or showed some sort of physical action signifying that they were dating. We got none of that from Lexana in Oracle. It was very strange. It was more like they were just good friends working together this episode and romantically, they are still unsure whether or not to give it a go. So Lexana is not really official to me right now.
SmallvilleMan
05-04-2006, 09:50 PM
Right, that was consistent, painfully consistent. But Lexana never did anything for me, and if anything, it has become more unclear this episode. When Clark and Lana were together, for those few episodes over the course of 5 seasons, you always got the impression that they were together. They flirted with each other or showed some sort of physical action signifying that they were dating. We got none of that from Lexana in Oracle. It was very strange. It was more like they were just good friends working together this episode and romantically, they are still unsure whether or not to give it a go. So Lexana is not really official to me right now.
I know and what always gave Lana and Clark's attraction was the eyes. Could always tell by looking at their eyes. Anyways, there are two reasons for this lexana thing:
1. Lana is up to something.(Which I doubt more and more as time goes on)
2. Or Al/Miles wouldn't know how to make a relationship if they tried. They have no clue.
I think number 2 is the most resonable.
myankskent
05-04-2006, 09:53 PM
Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
I know and what always gave Lana and Clark's attraction was the eyes. Could always tell by looking at their eyes. Anyways, there are two reasons for this lexana thing:
1. Lana is up to something.(Which I doubt more and more as time goes on)
2. Or Al/Miles wouldn't know how to make a relationship if they tried. They have no clue.
I think number 2 is the most resonable.
I think it was done for ratings. For some reason, Al/Miles probably thought that they can get some big time ratings for some episodes before the finale.
SmallvilleMan
05-04-2006, 09:57 PM
For ratings! Where were they during the beginning of the season when Clana was bringing in the ratings? I honestly think that Al/Miles some how stole the bodies of two college graduate producers and are controlling them to do their biding. They have Clana, the ratings go up and they kill Clana and the ratings go down the crapper. I understand they dislike clana, but don't they like money that much more? I don't get it!!!
myankskent
05-04-2006, 10:01 PM
Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
For ratings! Where were they during the beginning of the season when Clana was bringing in the ratings? I honestly think that Al/Miles some how stole the bodies of two college graduate producers and are controlling them to do their biding. They have Clana, the ratings go up and they kill Clana and the ratings go down the crapper. I understand they dislike clana, but don't they like money that much more? I don't get it!!!
I'll tell you something that I don't get and this is probably the strangest thing and really has me puzzled. There was supposed to be a Lexana kiss this episode. They showed it last week in the trailer and they showed it again just before oracle started tonight. It was definitely supposed to happen at the end of the episode when Lex and lana were sitting on the couch. I could tell based on the background and by what Lana was wearing. So I simply don't understand why you would cut that out of the episode if Lexana was supposed to be a major storyline in season 5. It's almost like the writers have decided to hold back some, perhaps based on what fans have been saying. Now if there was another Lexana kiss in the episode, I wouldn't say anything about it but they could easily have thrown it in to signify that Lana and Lex were getting serious, but they decided not to.
SmallvilleMan
05-04-2006, 10:03 PM
Well, sad to say it's a little too late to start listening to the fans. They've now made they bed and they'll lie in it.
myankskent
05-04-2006, 10:06 PM
Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
Well, sad to say it's a little too late to start listening to the fans. They've now made they bed and they'll lie in it.
Well I don't know if they really are doing it because of the fans but filming a lexana kiss and not including it in the episode is very strange to me. I've watched all of the deleted scenes on the previous season dvds and there has never been a Clana kiss that was left out of an episode. It just doesn't make sense based on how much they have been pushing Lexana since Fragile.
SmallvilleMan
05-04-2006, 10:07 PM
Al/Miles just aren't that bright either.
myankskent
05-04-2006, 10:09 PM
Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
Al/Miles just aren't that bright either.
Yeah, they're probably confusing their Aquaman tv show that is destined to flop with Smallville. Have a good night man.
Thil_EL
05-04-2006, 10:11 PM
maybe she meant lex isnt her friend ? bo-friend a boy who is a friend and lex isnt either of them... ?
F-Stop Blues
05-04-2006, 10:11 PM
Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
For ratings! Where were they during the beginning of the season when Clana was bringing in the ratings? I honestly think that Al/Miles some how stole the bodies of two college graduate producers and are controlling them to do their biding. They have Clana, the ratings go up and they kill Clana and the ratings go down the crapper. I understand they dislike clana, but don't they like money that much more? I don't get it!!!
I dont think its as simple as that. I hate clana with a passion but I loved Mortal and Hidden. Hidden is one of my favorite eps of the series. Its not because of the clana, its because the stories in the begining of the season were amazing. Its dropped off somewhat lately but imo the ratings arent linked to the life and death of Clana.
shirkie
05-04-2006, 10:12 PM
Let's just kill Lana and have it all over with!
... or consistent writing...
Because come on guys, Lois called herself "an unbiased ear" when she offered to listen to Lana re: Lex. And that is BS-- remember Lois & Lex's past not-so-friendly encounters? Lois hates the guy, and suddenly she's all excited to girl-talk with Lana about him? INCONSISTENT WRITERS! BAD! ::spanks::
shirkie
SmallvilleMan
05-04-2006, 10:17 PM
I dont think its as simple as that. I hate clana with a passion but I loved Mortal and Hidden. Hidden is one of my favorite eps of the series. Its not because of the clana, its because the stories in the begining of the season were amazing. Its dropped off somewhat lately but imo the ratings arent linked to the life and death of Clana
Yea, I made it sound like it was linked to Clana. It isn't completely linked to Clana, however Clana does play a major part when it is the show's primary relationship. Also, when it is probably the show's biggest fan base or close to it. The way handled Clana, also affected Clark and Lana as characters, which could also be linked to ratings drop. Handling Clana right could have keep the ratings good, handling it bad could end in this. Obviously Clana isn't going to save an episode like Ageless, but it does make a difference.
F-Stop Blues
05-04-2006, 10:19 PM
Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
Yea, I made it sound like it was linked to Clana. It isn't completely linked to Clana, however Clana does play a major part when it is the show's primary relationship. Also, when it is probably the show's biggest fan base or close to it. The way handled Clana, also affected Clark and Lana as characters, which could also be linked to ratings drop. Handling Clana right could have keep the ratings good, handling it bad could end in this. Obviously Clana isn't going to save an episode like Ageless, but it does make a difference.
Yeah exactly. Clana became ridiculous after Reckoning.
SmallvilleMan
05-04-2006, 10:23 PM
Yeah exactly. Clana became ridiculous after Reckoning
Ridculous? It was just out of control. I saw the ending of Vengence and I was sitting there thinking, "Aren't they broke up?" Clana died during Reckoning. Why they had them together for four more episodes I will never know. Maybe they just wanted to rub it in to Clana fans, who knows?:\
TampaVille
05-05-2006, 12:30 AM
Originally posted by TW1977
I thought she said she didn't want to LIE like CLARK did!!!!! Guess who's LIEING NOW!
I'm no lover of Lana, but she wasn't lying. She said Lex isn't her boyfriend. I think they're dating right now. That doesn't mean boyfriend.
janedoe
05-05-2006, 03:29 AM
^ I totally agree with you, did you notice that when Lex started to bad mouth Clark Lana was like lets talk bout something else. I guess she still loves Clarkie. I can't figure out her character she is really inconsistent @ this point.
TampaVille
05-05-2006, 03:53 AM
I found that line really interesting too, but for a different reason! It reminded me a lot of a Season 1 episode (don't remember title, the one with the blood drive I think) where Clark and Lana are sitting in his loft and Clark brings up Whitney. Lana says "I thought you didn't want to talk about Whitney?" The wording was different in the two lines, but the delivery was very close. The interpretation I had was that Lana's trying to close off the Clark portion of her life because she has feelings for both of them and doesn't want the Clark feelings to interfere with her developing Lex relationship.
happasaiyan
05-05-2006, 06:00 AM
Originally posted by shirkie
Because come on guys, Lois called herself "an unbiased ear" when she offered to listen to Lana re: Lex. And that is BS-- remember Lois & Lex's past not-so-friendly encounters? Lois hates the guy, and suddenly she's all excited to girl-talk with Lana about him? INCONSISTENT WRITERS! BAD! ::spanks::
shirkie
well, keep in mind lois has a cousin at the daily planet, and works for the state senator.
getting some dirt on lex probably wouldnt be a "bad" thing. ;)
kismet
05-05-2006, 06:43 AM
i guess it's too much to hope for at this point that lana is up to something and it will be revealed in due time... if only
andylee
05-05-2006, 10:56 AM
the lana angle at the end of every episode now a days has to end. they go thru out the whole episode worring about the planets fate and the it comes down to her
please stop the madness
youandme
05-05-2006, 11:36 AM
Yeah when Lana said "He's not my boyfriend",, I was like ok so what would you call him "my friend with benefits", "my sugar daddy", my "special friend", "my lover", "my husband", "my current squeeze", "my boy toy", "my sex slave", I mean cmon Lana, get real!
mortalreckoning
05-05-2006, 11:50 AM
Originally posted by youandme
Yeah when Lana said "He's not my boyfriend",, I was like ok so what would you call him "my friend with benefits", "my sugar daddy", my "special friend", "my lover", "my husband", "my current squeeze", "my boy toy", "my sex slave", I mean cmon Lana, get real!
you know, people assumed that Lana had slept with Jason and she hadn't
why assume she has with Lex?
maybe her saying' 'he's not my boyfriend', is just more of Lana's SOP of living in denial
as long as she hasn't slept with him, she can 'pretend' that they're just 'seeing each other' and he's not really 'her boyfriend' (denial)
it's just that twisted kinda logic I've come to expect of her :lol:
Watching Smallville
05-05-2006, 12:16 PM
Well, she's defensive about it. Not a good sign for Lex.
Aloof
05-05-2006, 12:30 PM
There are so many plot holes on Smallville, it's crazy. There WAS supposed to be a Lexana kiss, but they cut that out. :(
mobiusklein
05-05-2006, 12:37 PM
She's never been really honest with anyone including herself.
All about Clark
05-05-2006, 01:04 PM
^Aint that the truth.
By saying he wasn't the boyfriend, seems like she said it to Clark to get back at him. And maybe she really is just hanging around Lex to get info. Her way to the fast track. She clearly is making a mess of things for herself and everyone around her.
TampaVille
05-05-2006, 03:51 PM
Originally posted by All about Clark
By saying he wasn't the boyfriend, seems like she said it to Clark to get back at him.
I very rarely defend Lana, but she didn't do this. What she said to Clark was that she was seeing Lex. What she said to Lois was that Lex isn't her boyfriend. Those two things are not mutually exclusive. It's entirely possible that Lana really did, at the time she said that, consider her relationship with Lex serious enough to be seeing each other, but casual enough that it didn't warrant "boyfriend" status.
I expect that changed after the whole "if I show you this, you're in 100%" thing. At the time though, I don't think she was lying and I don't think she was saying anything to be hurtful.
jaime,oburg
05-05-2006, 04:04 PM
Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
Ridculous? It was just out of control. I saw the ending of Vengence and I was sitting there thinking, "Aren't they broke up?" Clana died during Reckoning. Why they had them together for four more episodes I will never know. Maybe they just wanted to rub it in to Clana fans, who knows?:\
I was thinking the same thing. When did they take a hiatus from the "break" that Lana wanted? Long enough to go out and have some fun with country line dancing. Maybe the writers didn't want Lana to look bad, leaving Clark right after the death of his father. So she came back around because it was a bad timing leaving Clark then. Guilt reconcilation? Or just the same back and forth Clana.:confused:
myankskent
05-05-2006, 04:16 PM
Originally posted by jaime,oburg
I was thinking the same thing. When did they take a hiatus from the "break" that Lana wanted? Long enough to go out and have some fun with country line dancing. Maybe the writers didn't want Lana to look bad, leaving Clark right after the death of his father. So she came back around because it was a bad timing leaving Clark then. Guilt reconcilation? Or just the same back and forth Clana.:confused:
Actually, in Vengeance, Lex and Lana were talking in the Talon and Lex asked about her argument with Clark that happened in Reckoning and she said that it didn't matter anymore. She said that she needs to be there for him. That's why Lana never really pushed Clark for the truth after Reckoning, she kind of dropped it after Jonathan died. Even in Hypnotic, she told Clark that she was willing to wait, but Clark broke up with her anyway.
Kryptonian Snake
05-05-2006, 04:29 PM
Originally posted by jaime,oburg
I was thinking the same thing. When did they take a hiatus from the "break" that Lana wanted? Long enough to go out and have some fun with country line dancing. Maybe the writers didn't want Lana to look bad, leaving Clark right after the death of his father. So she came back around because it was a bad timing leaving Clark then. Guilt reconcilation? Or just the same back and forth Clana.:confused:
I guess Lana ignored her own feelings and stayed with Clark because he was going through an extremely difficult time. She did the same thing with Whitney when his dad died. She felt that breaking up with Clark would be abandoning him in his time of need, so I assume they treated the fight in Reckoning as just another fight. It would have been nice to see the conversation where they decided to remain a couple. I guess they alluded to it in Vengeance when she tells Lex that the fight in Reckoning didn't matter anymore. Their happiness at the beginning of Hypnotic still doesn't fit with the previous two episodes, though.
We've seen Chloe do much the same thing by burying her feelings and listening to Clark talk about Lana even when she's uncomfortable. Pete also did the same thing by not telling Clark that the secret was a burden to carry. He figured Clark needed a friend, so he kept his mouth shut.
xrayvision
05-05-2006, 05:35 PM
Originally posted by TampaVille
I'm no lover of Lana, but she wasn't lying. She said Lex isn't her boyfriend. I think they're dating right now. That doesn't mean boyfriend.
What she said to Clark at the end of Fade when she was assuming that he was once again in the market for a gf (more specifically, her) meant that she was no longer available because she was with Lex. I find very little to debate about with what she said then. Lex is her bf, I dunno what she calls it in her warped mind, but that's what all the average joe/jane would consider it.
cotton candy girl
05-05-2006, 05:39 PM
Originally posted by TampaVille
I very rarely defend Lana, but she didn't do this. What she said to Clark was that she was seeing Lex. What she said to Lois was that Lex isn't her boyfriend. Those two things are not mutually exclusive. It's entirely possible that Lana really did, at the time she said that, consider her relationship with Lex serious enough to be seeing each other, but casual enough that it didn't warrant "boyfriend" status.
I expect that changed after the whole "if I show you this, you're in 100%" thing. At the time though, I don't think she was lying and I don't think she was saying anything to be hurtful.
I agree. We all know that when we're dating someone, it doesn't necessarily mean they're our boyfriend. It has not been declared that he's her boyfriend.
xrayvision
05-05-2006, 05:41 PM
Hmmm...I never knew after those make-outs they had, he wouldn't be her bf. I guess it's just me.
myankskent
05-05-2006, 05:44 PM
Yeah, I think they are just seeing each other. It's nothing really exclusive. I didn't see them making out in Oracle either.
xrayvision
05-05-2006, 05:46 PM
Well if he's not her boyfriend, then she should be available to go out with other guys as well, so why isn't she? If she is so much on the rebound, then she should go out with a different guy every night.
myankskent
05-05-2006, 05:52 PM
Originally posted by xrayvision
Well if he's not her boyfriend, then she should be available to go out with other guys as well, so why isn't she? If she is so much on the rebound, then she should go out with a different guy every night.
But there really is no one else. Plus, we haven't really had that heart to heart yet with Lex and Lana about the way they feel. I mean has Lana even told Lex that she really likes him? She said she missed him in Fade and in Oracle, she quickly changed the subject once Lex started trashing Clark when they were sitting on the couch.
If Clark told her the truth right now, Lana would drop Lex faster than it takes to shave Michael Rosenbaum's head.
xrayvision
05-05-2006, 05:54 PM
She goes to Met U, there is a huge choice for her there. What you're saying doesn't make 100% sense since she has now crossed the friendship boundary with Lex. Then that would make Clark not be her boyfriend for that brief time in Exodus, which is just BS. If Lex wasn't her boyfriend, then why the hell mention anything to Clark if they're just dating and aren't steady? She & Clark did the same thing in Exodus when they planned on telling Chloe. I can't believe that Lex is not her boyfriend.
myankskent
05-05-2006, 05:56 PM
Originally posted by xrayvision
She goes to Met U, there is a huge choice for her there. What you're saying doesn't make 100% sense since she has now crossed the friendship boundary with Lex. Then that would make Clark not be her boyfriend for that brief time in Exodus, which is just BS. If Lex wasn't her boyfriend, then why the hell mention anything to Clark if they're just dating and aren't steady? She & Clark did the same thing in Exodus when they planned on telling Chloe. I can't believe that Lex is not her boyfriend. \
She told Clark right away so if things got really serious between her and Lex, it wouldn't be a shock to Clark. But things aren't very serious between them and Fine is really interfering as well. Oracle was more about Fine than it was about romantic Lexana.
xrayvision
05-05-2006, 06:04 PM
Originally posted by myankskent
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She told Clark right away so if things got really serious between her and Lex, it wouldn't be a shock to Clark. But things aren't very serious between them and Fine is really interfering as well. Oracle was more about Fine than it was about romantic Lexana.
Thankfully it was more about Fine. I just still don't buy it that she doesn't consider Lex her boyfriend. People don't typically announce stuff until it actually gets serious. When Van McNulty referred to Clark as her boyfriend in Extinct (along with many others in S3) they were in no shape or form dating, but she didn't deny it. Here she did, and what she has with Lex now is much more than what she had with Clark throughout S3 (except Exile).
myankskent
05-05-2006, 06:08 PM
Originally posted by xrayvision
Thankfully it was more about Fine. I just still don't buy it that she doesn't consider Lex her boyfriend. People don't typically announce stuff until it actually gets serious. When Van McNulty referred to Clark as her boyfriend in Extinct (along with many others in S3) they were in no shape or form dating, but she didn't deny it. Here she did, and what she has with Lex now is much more than what she had with Clark throughout S3 (except Exile).
That's debatable. There were definitely more flirtatious moments with Clark than there are with Lex. Like I said, I think she announced it to Clark out of respect for him. To me, this whole lexana storyline doesn't make sense to begin with. I understand that we need to try and judge the characters, but the idea of Lexana is really Al/Miles crazy idea to create some drama. It's just not logical, in every sense of the word.
dhacker615
05-05-2006, 06:10 PM
Originally posted by myankskent
Lana isn't lying, nor is lex. They are actually two of the most honest people in the show right now. Lana even told Clark where the lab was.
If it wasn't a lie, it was pretty close. More to the point, why bother? It is not like Lana has shown any reservations about dating Lex. She went as far as telling Clark last week. She shaded the truth for no real reason.
It isn't even out of character. Lana lies constantly about big things and small. Here are a few examples:
- She murdered her ex-boyfriends mother and covered it up at the end of S4.
- In S2, she and Clark both lied to Chloe about their status. That didn't exactly work out well.
- This season, she lied to everyone about wht she was up to with the Med Students
The list goes on and on. More strangely, she has no problem with Lex holding things back from her. I mean, this episode she found out that Lex was hiding an awful lot from her and she was just fine with it. If that had been Clark? I am guessing we'd have gotten four weeks of complaining about "Secreths and Lieths".
Here is the problem: I like Lana as a character and KK's performance in the role. She had a nice reaction to the tiny bit of Hoyay from Lex this week that about made the episode for me. It has all been poor stewardship by the writers of the character. If she has intimacy issues and hates being lied to then it should always be a problem, not just when it is an easy obstacle for her relationship with Clark. If she is being a hypocrite that is fine, but have the other characters comment on it.
Clark has taken a lot of abuse from Lana about his honesty. Lana has taken no lasting flack from anyone on her ample problems in the exact same area. It is absurd.
myankskent
05-05-2006, 06:18 PM
Originally posted by dhacker615
If it wasn't a lie, it was pretty close. More to the point, why bother? It is not like Lana has shown any reservations about dating Lex. She went as far as telling Clark last week. She shaded the truth for no real reason.
It isn't even out of character. Lana lies constantly about big things and small. Here are a few examples:
- She murdered her ex-boyfriends mother and covered it up at the end of S4.
- In S2, she and Clark both lied to Chloe about their status. That didn't exactly work out well.
- This season, she lied to everyone about wht she was up to with the Med Students
The list goes on and on. More strangely, she has no problem with Lex holding things back from her. I mean, this episode she found out that Lex was hiding an awful lot from her and she was just fine with it. If that had been Clark? I am guessing we'd have gotten four weeks of complaining about "Secreths and Lieths".
Here is the problem: I like Lana as a character and KK's performance in the role. She had a nice reaction to the tiny bit of Hoyay from Lex this week that about made the episode for me. It has all been poor stewardship by the writers of the character. If she has intimacy issues and hates being lied to then it should always be a problem, not just when it is an easy obstacle for her relationship with Clark. If she is being a hypocrite that is fine, but have the other characters comment on it.
Clark has taken a lot of abuse from Lana about his honesty. Lana has taken no lasting flack from anyone on her ample problems in the exact same area. It is absurd.
You can't use an example where Lana and Clark were both lying to Chloe to make a point about Lana. Just keep it to what she does. And in that example, it was Lana who wanted to tell Chloe herself but Clark insisted that he wanted to tell her, but never did. You're right about the murder cover-up, but I go back to Mortal when Lana told Clark that there have been so many things that she hasn't told him and he immediately said that what both of them have done is in the past. So what is Lana supposed to say at that point? She actually brought up the fact that she was hiding things, that's different than what Clark has said throughout the series.
As for Lex revealing his secrets to Lana, Lana wants the truth. Lex wasn't obvious about keeping secrets from Lana as Clark was so Lana never sensed that Lex was lying. Lana never bit Clark's head off in Reckoning when he told her the truth. Lana wants the truth, no matter what it is, no matter how much danger it puts her in, she wants the truth. That's what Oracle has told me about her character.
last man of krypton
05-05-2006, 06:37 PM
I think she's just waiting for the season finale before announcing Lex as her boyfriend. Notice her list of boyfriends:
Whitney: Dad died.
Jason: Mother killed.
Clark: Dad died.
The moment she calls Lex her boyfriend, Lionel's finished. :D
dhacker615
05-05-2006, 06:39 PM
Originally posted by myankskent
You can't use an example where Lana and Clark were both lying to Chloe to make a point about Lana. Just keep it to what she does. And in that example, it was Lana who wanted to tell Chloe herself but Clark insisted that he wanted to tell her, but never did.
Not sure why that doesn't "count". Lana and Clark agreed to lie to Chloe (or to be more precise wait until Clark had a chance to tell her). Lana did all the actual lying on her own. Maybe she wasn't comfortable with it, but she did it.
You're right about the murder cover-up, but I go back to Mortal when Lana told Clark that there have been so many things that she hasn't told him and he immediately said that what both of them have done is in the past. So what is Lana supposed to say at that point? She actually brought up the fact that she was hiding things, that's different than what Clark has said throughout the series.
Ummmm .... Lana murdered someone. Again, maybe she was possesed, but a person she knew was still dead. Her first call was not exactly to the police. Call it whatever you like, but it isn't honesty.
More to the point, Lana didn't change after that. It wasn't like she decided in S5 that people have their secrets and maybe they have their reasons. (Which is apparently her take on her own situation.) Instead, she kept pressing Clark for him to tell her about his secrets, while she kept her own.
As for Lex revealing his secrets to Lana, Lana wants the truth. Lex wasn't obvious about keeping secrets from Lana as Clark was so Lana never sensed that Lex was lying. Lana never bit Clark's head off in Reckoning when he told her the truth. Lana wants the truth, no matter what it is, no matter how much danger it puts her in, she wants the truth. That's what Oracle has told me about her character.
If honesty is such a priority for Lana, wouldn't she be more appalled if she had no idea Lex was keeping secrets from her? Lex made an awfully big deal about sharing things with her and then, in essence, says that was a lie ... but here is the really real truth. If honesty is such a core value that she is willing to risk her life for it (although not her freedom), then wouldn't that be worse? At least with Clark, he was clearly being evasive. With Lex, she has no idea what to believe.
Like I said, they have totally lost track of the character of Lana, rather than having her evolve.
myankskent
05-05-2006, 06:48 PM
Originally posted by dhacker615
Not sure why that doesn't "count". Lana and Clark agreed to lie to Chloe (or to be more precise wait until Clark had a chance to tell her). Lana did all the actual lying on her own. Maybe she wasn't comfortable with it, but she did it.
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Ummmm .... Lana murdered someone. Again, maybe she was possesed, but a person she knew was still dead. Her first call was not exactly to the police. Call it whatever you like, but it isn't honesty.
More to the point, Lana didn't change after that. It wasn't like she decided in S5 that people have their secrets and maybe they have their reasons. (Which is apparently her take on her own situation.) Instead, she kept pressing Clark for [b]him to tell her about his secrets, while she kept her own.
If honesty is such a priority for Lana, wouldn't she be more appalled if she had no idea Lex was keeping secrets from her? Lex made an awfully big deal about sharing things with her and then, in essence, says that was a lie ... but here is the really real truth. If honesty is such a core value that she is willing to risk her life for it (although not her freedom), then wouldn't that be worse? At least with Clark, he was clearly being evasive. With Lex, she has no idea what to believe.
Like I said, they have totally lost track of the character of Lana, rather than having her evolve.
The Chloe example does count, but it did involve Clark as well. Plus, Lana did want to tell Chloe. She had no idea that Chloe saw them kissing.
The murder wasn't honesty, but what can Lana really say about that? One minute Jason's mother walked in asking for the stone and the next she was looking at her dead corpse with a bloody stone in her hand? That murder will never be brought up again, because it's impossible to bring to the police. I think that particular storyline was used to show Lana that Lex was there for her. What he wrote on the paper will never come into play.
Plus, she only pressed Clark because he was pulling away from her. One minute he was having sex with her, and the next he doesn't want to touch her. Wouldn't you be pressing the other person if that happened to you, or would you walk away, no questions asked? Also, if you saw your loved one flatline on in a hospital and pronounced dead by the doctors and later found them in a house all burned up, wouldn't you question that?
You're right about the last point with Lana not knowing that Lex is keeping secrets. I thought she would be more upset too but she views Lex as a person who always tells her the truth, based on the fact that he told her about the spaceship to begin with. Plus, Lex made it clear that it was about her safety and Lana understood that. She'd understand that if Clark told her the secret as well.
kismet
05-05-2006, 07:40 PM
Originally posted by last man of krypton
I think she's just waiting for the season finale before announcing Lex as her boyfriend. Notice her list of boyfriends:
Whitney: Dad died.
Jason: Mother killed.
Clark: Dad died.
The moment she calls Lex her boyfriend, Lionel's finished. :D :rotfl:
justsuper
05-05-2006, 07:58 PM
Here's how I see it. Out her pain from losing Clark (and because the girl cannot bear to be alone), Lana acts irratically and rebounds to Lex. She did so because Lex "seems" to trust her and shows her that he trusts her by giving her access to top secret government documents. Not to mention the mutual obsession they both have over the aliens - again all a manipulation by Lex. This trust issue was the biggest issue she had with Clark. Most of the time her attraction to Lex is based first on what facts he is uncovering about the aliens - it seems to be intoxicating to her. This is the key to her attraction to him. When Lana told Lois that Lex "wasn't her boyfriend" - I think this was a weak writer's attempt to indicate that the Lexana relationship is empty and not really based on anything real. But, of course, the writers aren't very good and maybe I am giving them too much credit.
shirkie
05-05-2006, 08:42 PM
LOL I never really thought about how toxic Lana is to her boyfriends' fathers... But come on, add Mrs. Teague into the bunch there and we can have it be equal opportunity for either father OR mother to die if son dates Lana. ;D
shirkie
jaime,oburg
05-05-2006, 09:04 PM
Originally posted by myankskent
Actually, in Vengeance, Lex and Lana were talking in the Talon and Lex asked about her argument with Clark that happened in Reckoning and she said that it didn't matter anymore. She said that she needs to be there for him. That's why Lana never really pushed Clark for the truth after Reckoning, she kind of dropped it after Jonathan died. Even in Hypnotic, she told Clark that she was willing to wait, but Clark broke up with her anyway.
Originally posted by Kryptonian Snake
I guess Lana ignored her own feelings and stayed with Clark because he was going through an extremely difficult time. She did the same thing with Whitney when his dad died. She felt that breaking up with Clark would be abandoning him in his time of need, so I assume they treated the fight in Reckoning as just another fight. It would have been nice to see the conversation where they decided to remain a couple. I guess they alluded to it in Vengeance when she tells Lex that the fight in Reckoning didn't matter anymore. Their happiness at the beginning of Hypnotic still doesn't fit with the previous two episodes, though.
We've seen Chloe do much the same thing by burying her feelings and listening to Clark talk about Lana even when she's uncomfortable. Pete also did the same thing by not telling Clark that the secret was a burden to carry. He figured Clark needed a friend, so he kept his mouth shut.
Thanks guys, for the life of me I don't remember the scene in the Talon where Lana tells Lex the fight she had with Clark doesn't matter anymore. I just remember Lana telling Lex at the mansion, she and Clark had their last fight. Lana trying to hold onto Clark's hand at the funeral and Clark letting it slip away.I guess all the Clana back and forth has finally gotten to me!:lol:
I just don't get the reason for Lana wanting to let Clark know her and Lex are seeing each other and then deny to Lois that Lex is her boyfriend. I think it was just a catalyst to help push the idea that Lana and Lois are now such close buddies, they can talk about anything. Seems contrived.:\
xrayvision
05-05-2006, 09:35 PM
Originally posted by myankskent
As for Lex revealing his secrets to Lana, Lana wants the truth. Lex wasn't obvious about keeping secrets from Lana as Clark was so Lana never sensed that Lex was lying. Lana never bit Clark's head off in Reckoning when he told her the truth. Lana wants the truth, no matter what it is, no matter how much danger it puts her in, she wants the truth. That's what Oracle has told me about her character.
Well, then I can say that Lana never trusted Clark about making decisions of what would be best for her. If she wants the truth no matter how dangerous it is, then she is just like Lex was (for example, in Memoria when he was risking his sanity & life to get those weeks back). I think she is too unstable for Clark if that's the case. It's strictly people like this who are the greatest risk to exposing Clark's secret. I don't blame him of not telling her.
Lana's problem was that she has to understand that it was/is Clark's secret, and therefore his choice if he wants to tell it. If he doesn't, then she can easily leave and be done with it. She can't week after week keep badgering him about it, as it only made things worse and made him more uncomfortable about ever sharing it with her.
myankskent
05-05-2006, 09:40 PM
Originally posted by xrayvision
Well, then I can say that Lana never trusted Clark about making decisions of what would be best for her. If she wants the truth no matter how dangerous it is, then she is just like Lex was (for example, in Memoria when he was risking his sanity & life to get those weeks back). I think she is too unstable for Clark if that's the case. It's strictly people like this who are the greatest risk to exposing Clark's secret. I don't blame him of not telling her.
Lana's problem was that she has to understand that it was/is Clark's secret, and therefore his choice if he wants to tell it. If he doesn't, then she can easily leave and be done with it. She can't week after week keep badgering him about it, as it only made things worse and made him more uncomfortable about ever sharing it with her.
I agree, and that is what we have seen happen. Lana is out of Clark's life for good. But I don't understand your comparison between Lex and Lana. How is Lex getting back missing weeks of his life pertain to Lana wanting to know the truth?
Lana would've left had Clark not been interested in her. If you noticed, as soon as Clark lied to her and told her that he didn't love her, she walked away. No more pressing after that. But Clark has always shown an interest in her and she loves him too much to give up on that.
xrayvision
05-05-2006, 09:47 PM
Originally posted by myankskent
The murder wasn't honesty, but what can Lana really say about that? One minute Jason's mother walked in asking for the stone and the next she was looking at her dead corpse with a bloody stone in her hand? That murder will never be brought up again, because it's impossible to bring to the police. I think that particular storyline was used to show Lana that Lex was there for her. What he wrote on the paper will never come into play.
The way I understand, it would be great if they have Lex resort to this once Lana is trying to get away from him. It would be a great push to Lex so he can become the ultimate MB (if it's possible to top Lionel). How great would it be if there is a scene where Lana opens a closet to find Genevieve Teague's skeleton in it?
Originally posted by myankskent
Plus, she only pressed Clark because he was pulling away from her. One minute he was having sex with her, and the next he doesn't want to touch her. Wouldn't you be pressing the other person if that happened to you, or would you walk away, no questions asked? Also, if you saw your loved one flatline on in a hospital and pronounced dead by the doctors and later found them in a house all burned up, wouldn't you question that?
I can understand your point on the sex thing. As far as the flatlining, I would be grateful that they were alive. She should remember all the weird things that happen in that town, so in a way, it shouldn't surprise her. That guy in Reaper came back from the dead also, and she was aware of it.
Originally posted by myankskent
But I don't understand your comparison between Lex and Lana. How is Lex getting back missing weeks of his life pertain to Lana wanting to know the truth?
In that episode, Lex said that dying or losing his sanity was worth it so as long as he uncovered the truth. Lana is acting the same way like you said (not caring how much danger she gets into so long as she gets the truth). TPTB paralleled Lana to Clark's archnemesis by writing her as such.
Originally posted by myankskent
Lana would've left had Clark not been interested in her. If you noticed, as soon as Clark lied to her and told her that he didn't love her, she walked away. No more pressing after that. But Clark has always shown an interest in her and she loves him too much to give up on that.
Well if she would have left him had he not been interested in her, then it tells me that finding the secret isn't as important as having him in her life. Otherwise, she would drop him at any cost due to the secret.
myankskent
05-05-2006, 09:55 PM
Originally posted by xrayvision
The way I understand, it would be great if they have Lex resort to this once Lana is trying to get away from him. It would be a great push to Lex so he can become the ultimate MB (if it's possible to top Lionel). How great would it be if there is a scene where Lana opens a closet to find Genevieve Teague's skeleton in it?
That would be good but I think it's too late for that. I actually wanted that to become a storyline this season but instead they put Lex and Lana together. Using the Genevieve storyline now would mean that the writers would show continuity dating back to last season, which would never happen.
I can understand your point on the sex thing. As far as the flatlining, I would be grateful that they were alive. She should remember all the weird things that happen in that town, so in a way, it shouldn't surprise her. That guy in Reaper came back from the dead also, and she was aware of it.
True, like i said in another thread, I'll rip on Lana for taking the files, but in this case, a person died right in front of her and then came back with their clothes burned up. I would be freaking out about it too. Actually, I'm surprised Lana shut her mouth about it after that. She mentioned it again in Fanatic and Clark said that he couldn't explain it...how Lana would let him get away with a comment like that is ridiculous but she did.
Originally posted by xrayvision
In that episode, Lex said that dying or losing his sanity was worth it so as long as he uncovered the truth. Lana is acting the same way like you said (not caring how much danger she gets into so long as she gets the truth). TPTB paralleled Lana to Clark's archnemesis by writing her as such.
My point was that Lana wanted to be in on everything. Just look at it this way, if you have a spouse and they are in trouble, wouldn't you want them to tell you about it so you can help them? You wouldn't want them to keep it bottled up inside forever. That's what Lana is about. Good couples have a "we can take on anything" approach. They'll get through anything together and that is what Lana wants.
Well if she would have left him had he not been interested in her, then it tells me that finding the secret isn't as important as having him in her life. Otherwise, she would drop him at any cost due to the secret.
But it all goes back to letting a person in. If you are dating someone, you want to know that person more than if you are friends with them. If Clark rejected her, she would have no right to ask him to tell the truth because they are not together. Back in seasons 1-4, Lana did press Clark even though they were not together but there was always something between them and Lana tried her best to not get shut out. But Clark didn't have to tell her in those seasons because they weren't having sex and they weren't in a relationship. I still think that the moment when Clark decided to have sex with Lana, there are no excuses to not tell her.
dhacker615
05-05-2006, 10:22 PM
Originally posted by myankskent
But it all goes back to letting a person in. If you are dating someone, you want to know that person more than if you are friends with them. If Clark rejected her, she would have no right to ask him to tell the truth because they are not together. Back in seasons 1-4, Lana did press Clark even though they were not together but there was always something between them and Lana tried her best to not get shut out. But Clark didn't have to tell her in those seasons because they weren't having sex and they weren't in a relationship. I still think that the moment when Clark decided to have sex with Lana, there are no excuses to not tell her.
That I agree with. Powers or no powers, it was unfair on Clark's part to start sleeping with her and not share his true nature.
However, that was dealt with pretty well. Chloe kept pressing Clark to be honest with Lana and Clark slowly came around to doing just that. It was really the best constructed ship arc of the series, until "Reckoning" undid a half season of character development. The state of the Clana was a mess until 'Hypnotic', which was another terrible episode. Clark kinda-sorta moved on, but Lana was nearly ruined as a character for me.
The problems with this season all come back to how terrible the time travel device in "Reckoning" was. Well, that and the stupid "someone must die" edict from "Hidden".
Cat_Atak
05-06-2006, 09:23 AM
I don't know if Lex is Lana's boyfriend or not but I do know that when they are on screen and they start acting all lovey dovey I do everything short of puking. I always look away it's just awful. I don't know if they have good chemistry and it's annoying or if it's just so lustful it's disgusting. About Lois and Lana's talk in the Talon that was so catty on Lois' part. Its was awesome the looks Lois was giving Lana like "Uh-huh....yeah" Lois already has a loyalty to Clark over Lana. She has seen Clark moping around over Lana and knows that she needs to find out info from Lana so that she can tell Clark what he needs to here to get over her and move on. When she went to the loft she was objective but Im just going off what they showed us because we didn't see the three hour conversation between Lois and Lana.
xrayvision
05-07-2006, 10:56 AM
Hmm, I liked what you said Cat Atak. It would be cool if next season they developed the Clex feud parallel to a Loiana rift/feud.
It should be interesting, because something tells me that next season, Lois will be going back to Met U, and I wonder if she will be Lana's roommate.
I hope we can see some nice sweaty pillowfights between them.
:p
Cat_Atak
05-09-2006, 06:55 PM
Yes that would definitely be awesome....it was in the comics that Lois and Lana are a little catty with each other. I think it would be great to see more of that in the show.....Lois would have Lana tripping all over her words and it would be funny to see now that Lana is all disgusting over Lex.
Aloof
05-09-2006, 07:49 PM
What about the stones? What about when someone "supposedly" raided Lana's apartment and hid the stone? She lied about that, obviously. She's obviously starting to turn darker.
xrayvision
05-09-2006, 09:47 PM
Originally posted by Aloof
What about the stones? What about when someone "supposedly" raided Lana's apartment and hid the stone? She lied about that, obviously. She's obviously starting to turn darker.
Yes, her obsession for the stones started mirroring Lex's obsession for Clark's secret/the stones/the key/the cave, etc etc.
I honestly think Lana Lang is the most confused character in Smallville. Whether she has been made out like that purposely by the makers or not I don't know, but she certainly doesn't seem to have any sense of direction in her life.
Granted she has had a horrible childhood without parents , the meteor showers and all . And she didn't exactly have a great adolescent life - she is currently with her fourth BF .... but still :mad:
She is looking for something that probably doesn't exist - nobody is perfect . Everybody has their secrets. The only thing I admire about her is that once she got into a relationship , she put everything into it everytime ...and she is quite a cutie...:D
xrayvision
05-10-2006, 12:01 AM
I like how she is very devoted to the relationship she's in, but it also sets her up for tremendous heartbreak when she finds out the person she's with is not perfect, or breaks up with her.
She does get bored from time to time though. It sort of happened with Jason (since she started lying about the stone she hid and she messed up her apartment to make it look like it was broken into). The same happened with Clark in Thirst when she moved out without telling him. I think that was mostly because he didn't tell her the secret.
mortalreckoning
05-10-2006, 09:23 AM
Originally posted by Cat_Atak
it was in the comics that Lois and Lana are a little catty with each other. I think it would be great to see more of that in the show
I'd LOVE to see that...the writers could really go to town with that
Her being Lana's 'sounding board', for 3 hours at a stretch, must be really dull (how does Lois do it without retching?)...LOL :D
Rafael122
05-10-2006, 10:18 AM
I dont think Lana is becoming darker, rather she's trying to piece everything together because she realizes a lot of things just don't add up. IMO, she's using Lex as a way to find out more information. It's what I hope at least.
TampaVille
05-10-2006, 12:21 PM
I'd LOVE to find out that Lana's been using Lex the way Lex typically uses people (and specifically women) to accomplish his goals. That would also go a long ways towards turning Lex away from any form of honesty with anybody ever again.
Watching Smallville
05-10-2006, 01:23 PM
I don't think Lana is a pretender. I think she thinks this is a good relationship for her to be in right now. But she isn't over Clark.
Lana has been searching for herself since the beginning of the series -- since she quit cheerleading and told Whitney "I want to find something I'm great at." She hasn't found it yet. I think she keeps hoping to find her identity through her relationships with other people. Maybe this involvement with Lex will teach her how to stand on her own a bit better.
Cat_Atak
05-13-2006, 02:52 PM
Speaking of the stones....so Clark gets all the stones put together and suddenly everyone on the show stops obsessing over them and never wonders what happens to them....weird....this might have been discussed before but I just watched parts of season 4 again. sorry about getting off topic but that whole discussion about why lana trusts lex so much after all that brought it up
TampaVille
05-14-2006, 04:20 PM
Hey Cat Atak. There's another (or several, haha) thread on that topic precisely. In short though, I think they actually did tie up MOST of those loose ends. Think about who was searching for them before:
Lionel
Lex
Genevive
Jason
Clark
Lana
Lionel - Was downloaded with all the info about the stones anyway.
Lex - Can be assumed to be looking for them, but the writers don't keep giving us pointless "Just find them!", slams phone moments.
Genevive - Dead
Jason - Dead
Clark - Knows what happened
Lana...
Of course once we get to Lana, the show falls apart on this issue ;). That actually brings me back a little bit to the topic of THIS thread though, which is that Lana's search for the stones was really other people using her to search for the stones.
I was about to type: most notably, ______ used Lana to find them. But then I realized everybody used her to find them. Lionel sent her to China. Lex tried talking one away from her. She gave one to Clark. Genevive hooked her son up with her to find them. Jason hooked up with her to find them.
That reminds me a lot of her relationships. She jumps from guy to guy trying to find herself through them. It's never going to work like that though.
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