Loved it hated it what did you think of Oracle

[Krypton935]

post your opinions of Oracle here

[Donnie Brasco]

I would but it hasn't aired yet.

Just kidding. I haven't been so excited about a smallville ep in a long time. Oracle will kick ass.

Opinion later.

[Krypton935]

i know but you have to jump the gun to get these threads otherwise they are gone by the time it comes on.

I am really looking forward to this episode too it looks like a very good episode

[Donnie Brasco]

I know you do krypton935. Better to get in early.

I haven't really been impressed with smallville lately. I have heard great things about oracle all over the internet. I can't wait :D

[superhippie2000]

i cant wai for the episode its going to be great. and im glad this is a main plotline and not filler and it will lead into the finale. it looks really exciting and then maybe we can get an idea of what the whole stupid blog thing was saying.

[Donnie Brasco]

I agree . The blog will become clear to all after tonight/next week.

I didn't read the blog. I didn't read the verizon emails either. It all makes sense to me.

[kismet]

after lurking on these forums since the first episode I'm really exited about this one. So far I've been very impressed with this season. Hurry up and air Oracle!

[superhippie2000]

Originally posted by Donnie Brasco
I agree . The blog will become clear to all after tonight/next week.

I didn't read the blog. I didn't read the verizon emails either. It all makes sense to me.


well the codes for the blog havent been figured out yet its really hard. they have images of the ship and zod and phantom zone some cave paintings and some people. but it doesnt make sense and still no spioilers comming from it. i really hope its explained tonight then all of us trying to figure it out can start having headaches

[Kal-El1138]

I'm kind of happy we haven't had the same amount of spoilers we had for "Commencement" around this time. If those kind of detailed spoilers came out for "Vessel", I'd have to look and I know I'd spoil something super cool. But, at the same time, I desperately want to know just what the hell is going on in the finale. Conflicting emotions, not a good thing.

On a related note, "Oracle" looks freaking awesome.

[Keldaz]

Why do you think its name is oracle? I havent watched spolers or trailer.

I want to keep the excitement in the episode :)

I think that its name is oracle becouse of there may be som kind if glims into clark kents future. And i dont think it will be a FOTW episode (like someone seeing the future) Keep in mind i havent read any spoilers or anything like that.

Or i may be WAY off. :)

What do you think?

And Kal-El1138 - try to resist it! dont read the spolers or anything like that like i do. :)

[KEakaCK]

I'm proud of myself...I haven't read any of the spoilers on K-Site.
The only thing I've read was this TV Q&A with like 4 or 5 insights on the season finale but that didn't give anything specific.

[StealthyMakoto]

Yes, not having as much spoilers for this makes me all the more eager to see it... can't wait. And while I didn't really help with trying to decode the blog (my brain hurt just trying to keep up with what you guys were doing) it'll be great to see what that message turns out to be tonight.

[Rift]

Originally posted by superhippie2000
well the codes for the blog havent been figured out yet its really hard. they have images of the ship and zod and phantom zone some cave paintings and some people. but it doesnt make sense and still no spioilers comming from it. i really hope its explained tonight then all of us trying to figure it out can start having headaches

I broke it.

The code says "Drink more Ovaltine".

[Kal-El1138]

Originally posted by Rift
I broke it.

The code says "Drink more Ovaltine".

A crummy commercial?

[Krypton935]

Originally posted by Keldaz
Why do you think its name is oracle? I havent watched spolers or trailer.

Oracle means a person considered to be a source of wise counsel or prophetic opinions. so I think Jor-El will give clark some sort of great knowledge that will answer all the questions ever asked:eek: :D

[Red-Krypto]

lol I dont think it will asnwer all the questions ever asked but we'll see.

I'm excited..Thursdays really ARE the best days of TV! The episode looks promising.

[Krypton935]

ok maybe just the questions clark ever asked

[superhippie2000]

Originally posted by Rift
I broke it.

The code says "Drink more Ovaltine".


lol i was actually thinking of that the other day. anyway i think we may have the answer now im not saying here but the spoiler section has it. it may relate to this episode. could be what lionel wrote in mercy


Originally posted by Krypton935
Oracle means a person considered to be a source of wise counsel or prophetic opinions. so I think Jor-El will give clark some sort of great knowledge that will answer all the questions ever asked:eek: :D

well in hidden did lion-el say this is a vessel incase you ever need me an oracle of kryptonian knowledge. something like that. i think thats why it was called oracle cause of that sentence and cause the next one is vessel.

[Ephrils]

How does this have 16 replies already? It hasnt come on TV yet :p

[shy175223]

I know! 2 pages already!

[Watching Smallville]

I was thinking the same thing. And of course, now I'm adding to the thread! :rolleyes:

[demongene]

Erica will look hot as always.

[superhippie2000]

Originally posted by Ephrils
How does this have 16 replies already? It hasnt come on TV yet :p

cause this is going to be a great and important episode and we are all excited and want to talk about it.

[Krypton935]

ok then we just need to slow down we are way off topic

[superhippie2000]

holy crap this episode is great. that fight in the barn was awsome. and clark believing lionel. this is going to be great.

[redraven]

What is amazing is that I'm not disappointed yet!! OMG!!

Seriously though, I like this episode so far. Not that much Lexana crap and a whole lot of Fine. :D

[superhippie2000]

this is like the most exciting episode this season. lionel clark and chloe working as team was kind of weird but i like it. lionel is very helpful. now lex is injected man i wish next weeks episode was tonight too.

[cmm]

LMAO at the kryptonian message. i'm not even kryptonian and i understood that message that clark just read.

[redraven]

LOVED IT!!! Such a relief from the crappy episodes lately. I find myself hating Lana more and more...

Anyway, bring on the Clois!!!!

[superhippie2000]

the whole episode was non stop excitement and the preview for next week was like wow. gave me the chills

[mttmtlnd]

Great episode...Next week looks awesome...hell, I even liked Lois's line about buying a harley 'stead of a bike...

[amberdawn]

I really enjoyed this episode!

[asparks]

I love it, I didn't think that they could pull off a show like this anymore, but they made me kneel before smallville.

[canon]

LOVE the episode. .....just GREAT. can't wait for next week already.

[EricN68]

Awesome. Some really juicy fun stuff for Pa Kent, too!

[attitudejc]

I LOVED IT!

[TW1977]

Loved it!...

[clarksmuse]

Great plotline and continuity... great action and special effects... I really enjoyed it!

[F-Stop Blues]

You know its funny, the second to last ep last season was Forever. Just think about that for a second.

[watcher4]

Appreciated the episode! John Glover was FAN-TAS-TIC!!! John Schneider did a good job to. The emotion on AOT's face when Lionel made his confession was exceptional. Tom Welling's delivery of that final line,"Zod is coming" stole the show. Allison was top-notch...as always. Erica was delightful. MR did a wonderful job. James Marsters was right on target! I thought KK....well...nothing personal, but I just felt that she was just put in the episode to be in the episode. That is the way it felt to me. Her performance, to me, felt kinda flat.

All of this is just my opinion!!!:)

[chole_fan]

To reiterate what everyone else seems to be saying:

GREAT EPISODE!!!!!

I can't wait till next week.:D

[MBCorp]

I loved it, best episode I've seen in a long time. I think I'm going to just start watching these special event/mythos episodes and ignoring all of the others, these are the ones they spend the most effort on it seems.

[sstray72]

Loved it!! Great episode, loved JS return as BrainiKent.

[Lexgirl33]

Wow any episode with JM is great! One of the best this season.

[Aloof]

Amazing! And creepy at the same time! :D

[Summers]

It was so-so. It was better than previous season lead-up; however, there were too many things that bugged:
-Mary Sue Chloe that what used a card to open Lionel's door :confused:
-Lionel S4 behavior is still not explained
-this episode proved more that it had continuity in the season itself, but not with rest of the first three seasons. Clark can read Kryptonian stupid lameo writers.
-Brainiac "don't touch me" before Lion-el killed him. Lame. Just stand there to die what do you. Your a freakin intelligent A.I., and all you do is stand there to be wiped out :rolleyes:.
-To elevate Lionel to good status they lowered Jonathan's status by having his own death become his own. If wasn't a hothead, then he might've lived longer. And just showed more why in the heck did we need someone to die on the show for the first place.....oh yea ratings.
-ZOD coming!!! Yea, we know. We knew since "Arrival". No big whoop :lol:.
-Brainaic is now T-1000 right down to the shape-shifting.
-Lois' unbiased ear...yea, right. We all know Lois hates Lex. Inconsistency again.
-What are they going to start Clois loft scenes now? Was that scene even necessary for another anvil we already know about since the moment she came on aboard. I personally would have liked a Martha/Clark scene talking about Brainiac/Jonathan instead.

The truly only thing I really liked was the parallel they used to the play of Hamlet. Other than that no big deal. All people need to watch this season was "Arrival", "Reckoning", "Oracle", and "Vessel". Everything else wasn't needed :\. Sorry, guys I wasn't that impressed :\.

[boogalou86]

Very nice...some good surprises....loved it.

[MBCorp]

Originally posted by Summers
All people need to watch this season was "Arrival", "Reckoning", "Oracle", and "Vessel". Everything else wasn't needed :\.

That's why I'm going to start just watching the big mythos episodes. That's all you really need to watch with this show, practically everything else is filler and these are the best written and best done episodes anyway.

[Summers]

Ironcially you need to know the spoilers to know which are the mythos :lol:.

[opera_ghost]

Originally posted by Summers
It was so-so. It was better than previous season lead-up; however, there were too many things that bugged:
-Mary Sue Chloe that what used a card to open Lionel's door :confused:
-Lionel S4 behavior is still not explained
-this episode proved more that it had continuity in the season itself, but not with rest of the first three seasons. Clark can read Kryptonian stupid lameo writers.
-Brainiac "don't touch me" before Lion-el killed him. Lame. Just stand there to die what do you. Your a freakin intelligent A.I., and all you do is stand there to be wiped out :rolleyes:.
-To elevate Lionel to good status they lowered Jonathan's status by having his own death become his own. If wasn't a hothead, then he might've lived longer. And just showed more why in the heck did we need someone to die on the show for the first place.....oh yea ratings.
-ZOD coming!!! Yea, we know. We knew since "Arrival". No big whoop :lol:.
-Brainaic is now T-1000 right down to the shape-shifting.
-Lois' unbiased ear...yea, right. We all know Lois hates Lex. Inconsistency again.
-What are they going to start Clois loft scenes now? Was that scene even necessary for another anvil we already know about since the moment she came on aboard. I personally would have liked a Martha/Clark scene talking about Brainiac/Jonathan instead.

The truly only thing I really liked was the parallel they used to the play of Hamlet. Other than that no big deal. All people need to watch this season was "Arrival", "Reckoning", "Oracle", and "Vessel". Everything else wasn't needed :\. Sorry, guys I wasn't that impressed :\.

ok, a few issues.

1.) Brainiac has had a precident aside from 'smallville' to allow him to shapeshift.
2.) Chloe thinking ahead about the security was for a couple reasons... a. it keeps her involved in the story aside from her 'grandmaster' hacker skillz... and b. clark needs to learn that his powers cannot solve every single problem.
3.) Lionel is season four I think this revalation did prove that after the transferance incident.. he was in fact changed. He was protecting clark, not because he consciously knew of clark's powers... maybe subconsciously.. but because he seen in him everything he wished his son would be.... Combined with, I feel, he seen in his son everything that he had been... only worse. And he knew that could spell the doom for a great many people...

"A tale of two lexes" however, was not, in my opinion, him changing back to the old lionel... it was the realization that no matter how 'nice' he was to his son... and tried to be a good example... it was too late... his son was past that... and all he could respond to was the lionel of old.... so, for the good of his son... he took the same lessons that he'd tried to teach him prior to that 'blood duel" and twisted them to be taought by his old self.

As far as your other objections to the episode... I agree in principle with you... though I can accept it for what it is.

(And what it is... may be the end of smallville.. though I sincerely hope not.)

[Lexgirl33]

Some how the mytho episodes are the only ones that are good. Hmm is that telling the writers something? I think not, they dont get it :lol:

[Summers]

Originally posted by opera_ghost
ok, a few issues.

1.) Brainiac has had a precident aside from 'smallville' to allow him to shapeshift.
2.) Chloe thinking ahead about the security was for a couple reasons... a. it keeps her involved in the story aside from her 'grandmaster' hacker skillz... and b. clark needs to learn that his powers cannot solve every single problem.
3.) Lionel is season four I think this revalation did prove that after the transferance incident.. he was in fact changed. He was protecting clark, not because he consciously knew of clark's powers... maybe subconsciously.. but because he seen in him everything he wished his son would be.... Combined with, I feel, he seen in his son everything that he had been... only worse. And he knew that could spell the doom for a great many people...

"A tale of two lexes" however, was not, in my opinion, him changing back to the old lionel... it was the realization that no matter how 'nice' he was to his son... and tried to be a good example... it was too late... his son was past that... and all he could respond to was the lionel of old.... so, for the good of his son... he took the same lessons that he'd tried to teach him prior to that 'blood duel" and twisted them to be taought by his old self.

As far as your other objections to the episode... I agree in principle with you... though I can accept it for what it is.

(And what it is... may be the end of smallville.. though I sincerely hope not.)

Sorry, SV is known for rip-offs. The blantly ripped of T2 with him right down to the finger pointy :lol:. Chloe is now a plot device. She lacks substance now unfornately :\. On Lionel they even said in a SFX interview they didn't know what they doing with him. They were just have fun with character in S4, and that interview showed me that don't know what they heck they are doing :\. I'm not disputing your interpretation, but given they will never address it again it will be just that. The fan's interpretation.

[opera_ghost]

*nods*

though I still disagree with you on the T-1000 ripoff.... though I will admit, the whole liquid metal can make blades thing did make me think of Terminator 2 the first time I seen it happen.

but if he's a computer... than he is most likely sylicon based... and I just realized I don't want to get on this rant at the moment.. I'd be typing for hours.

[Quadrotriticale]

Originally posted by Summers
It was so-so. It was better than previous season lead-up; however, there were too many things that bugged:
-Mary Sue Chloe that what used a card to open Lionel's door :confused:
-Lionel S4 behavior is still not explained
-this episode proved more that it had continuity in the season itself, but not with rest of the first three seasons. Clark can read Kryptonian stupid lameo writers.
-Brainiac "don't touch me" before Lion-el killed him. Lame. Just stand there to die what do you. Your a freakin intelligent A.I., and all you do is stand there to be wiped out :rolleyes:.
-To elevate Lionel to good status they lowered Jonathan's status by having his own death become his own. If wasn't a hothead, then he might've lived longer. And just showed more why in the heck did we need someone to die on the show for the first place.....oh yea ratings.
-ZOD coming!!! Yea, we know. We knew since "Arrival". No big whoop :lol:.
-Brainaic is now T-1000 right down to the shape-shifting.
-Lois' unbiased ear...yea, right. We all know Lois hates Lex. Inconsistency again.
-What are they going to start Clois loft scenes now? Was that scene even necessary for another anvil we already know about since the moment she came on aboard. I personally would have liked a Martha/Clark scene talking about Brainiac/Jonathan instead.

The truly only thing I really liked was the parallel they used to the play of Hamlet. Other than that no big deal. All people need to watch this season was "Arrival", "Reckoning", "Oracle", and "Vessel". Everything else wasn't needed :\. Sorry, guys I wasn't that impressed :\.


I pretty much agree with you. It was so so for me. Some scenes were good while others were lacking. Oh well, this show has just about ran it's course.

[CallMeClark]

HOLY CRAP! OMZ (oh my Zod)! Why couldn't we have had episodes like this all season! AMAZING! WOW! I was interested in EVERYTHING!

[F-Stop Blues]

Originally posted by Summers
All people need to watch this season was "Arrival", "Reckoning", "Oracle", and "Vessel". Everything else wasn't needed :\. .

What about Hidden? That was a really important ep this season.

[CallMeClark]

Summer, Solitude, Hidden, and Mortal was amazing! As well as Splinter.

[milton fine]

loved it and im looking forward to vessel

[MBCorp]

Originally posted by CallMeClark
HOLY CRAP! OMZ (oh my Zod)! Why couldn't we have had episodes like this all season! AMAZING! WOW! I was interested in EVERYTHING!

Yeah, everything in this episode was exciting. This is the first episode in a long time that didn't have me looking at the clock every few seconds wondering when it would be over. I only looked at the clock once, and I was surprised to see that the episode was almost over, it was that fast paced and exciting.

[F-Stop Blues]

Originally posted by MBCorp
Yeah, everything in this episode was exciting. This is the first episode in a long time that didn't have me looking at the clock every few seconds wondering when it would be over. I only looked at the clock once, and I was surprised to see that the episode was almost over, it was that fast paced and exciting.

Just look at the mess that was season 4. Forever was the second to last ep. What a joke! Oracle was more or less a set up for Vessel which is what it should be. I'm glad somone had the idea to have a 2 part finale.

[StealthyMakoto]

I loved this episode, definitely one of my favorite period.
And about Chloe.... hey, I loved her line "I need a night life." At least she's acknowledging the fact that she can do some crazy stuff ;)

[Summers]

Originally posted by opera_ghost
*nods*

though I still disagree with you on the T-1000 ripoff.... though I will admit, the whole liquid metal can make blades thing did make me think of Terminator 2 the first time I seen it happen.

but if he's a computer... than he is most likely sylicon based... and I just realized I don't want to get on this rant at the moment.. I'd be typing for hours.

That's cool ;). At first I thought it was nod until the shape shifting part. I thought they were going for more of the Superman:The Animated Series Brainaic.

They said he was an A.I. in "Solitude".


Originally posted by F-Stop Blues
What about Hidden? That was a really important ep this season.

Not really. That was more important for Clana. They addressed the death arc in "Reckoning". So a newbie doesn't have to watch "Hidden" :\.

[k18]

This was one of the best episodes this season, probably the best so far. I think Vessel will be even better. Can't wait till next thursday,

[Summers]

Originally posted by CallMeClark
Summer, Solitude, Hidden, and Mortal was amazing! As well as Splinter.

I'm not talking quality here ;). I'm specifically talking about episodes a person needs to watch to see one season of the show. They clearly do not need to see every single episode of SV compared to other shows on tv. Plus I wasn't in favor of "Mortal" due to Clark's selfish behavior. He regressed too much in "Mortal" it was sad. As an episode it was written well, but to me put Clark in a very bad light.

[xrayvision]

A spectacular episode, without a doubt. I was waiting for something like this. When I saw Lion-El destroy Fine with that touch, my reaction was "holy s--t". It's obvious now that Lionel is carrying with him the power of the white crystals since the same happened when Fine was impaled on them. I think if Clark stabs the ship with one, it's bye bye ship. If this happens, it will most likely happen with at least 1 Milton Fine remaining that is seperated from the ship who will escape to save himself.

I say Splinter, Solitude, Reckoning, Void (yes, Clark progressed big time in this one), Cyborg (he saw Lex blatantly lie to him), and Arrival. In certain parts, Vengeance did add to Clark's character, but not as a whole. I also think Lexmas was a huge episode as it seemed to be the last chance for Lex to change his ways and offered an alternate future that will show how the events that will happen stopped that future from happening. I also think Hypnotic was important, since it killed the big roadblock that was in Clark's path of becoming Superman and made him realize that deep down he shouldn't be with Lana (he will understand why in the not too distant future).

[Theshadow129x]

i think this was a great one i was wondering where the ghost of johnathan kent was coming from. that was awesome. but more so i liked how the entire episode was about the main story not some fotw crap which makes it better.

[tw190]

Awesome episode. It's almost 11pm and I'm tired, but it was a great ep. Next week's should be great too! :D

[loistickyfingerz]

The Lionel-Clark-Lex-Fine scenes were out of this world amazing. That barn scene had me clapping all by my lonsome self in my living room, they were so good.

There were some WTF? moments, like why, besides convienence for the script, did Clark drag Lionel to the Daily Planet for a visit with Chloe? That was odd.

[aqua]

Good mythos, bad characterization. Lex and Lana acting like enormous hypocrites that their characters are pretty much dead to me, Chloe is just a plot device, and Lois is being jammed in anywhere they can put her.

[Clex1115]

What an incredible episode this is what smallville is all about ... a character driven episode based on the overal plot by far the best lead in to a finale episode ever. No dumb freak of the week side plot. This is how smallville should be every week!!!! If this is any indication of its sixth season goood things are ahead. CANT WAIT FOR THE FINALE!!!!!!

[aoa4life]

This episode is why I watch Smallville. They take you on a journey. Sometimes you don't like how you get there, but you get to episode 21 of a 22 episode season and you think, Didn't this season just start and now it's already over? Zod is coming! That is freakin crazy. I hope he makes his appearance in this finale and not next season's opener. I loved this episode. Best one of this season and I have a feeling that Vessel is going to be the best episode ever. Lex has the same powers that is incredible. I can't wait for next season.

[GottaLoveHotSuperHeros]

it was better than previous and we're on the right track to back to normal... to bad there's only one episode left in the season :( owell... So I liked it and it was interesting and captivating

[boonaducious]

This episode was amazing!!!!!!!

It had pretty much everything I could want in a episode. My only gripe was that it was very sad the way Braniac exploited Jonathan Kent, but that's just the sappy girl in me.

I'm not picky at all when it comes to SV, which I guess makes me a bad source to talk to about this, but still. It was good stuff.

There were a few points that I want to address (I'm too tired to quote anyone tonight since I just moved everything I own across town). Clark DID read Kryptonian in the end of the episode, he just couldn't decipher Lionel's scribble. As for only having to watch a few episodes to get everything, I'm very much learning that it can be a good thing.

Veronica Mars, for example, seperated a lot of it's Lily-heavy episodes, and it was brilliant. This season, it is beginning to grate on me for being so...heavy. I mean, I love mysteries as much as the next girl, but come on! At first I thought it was good, but now I'm getting the vibe that RT is showing off.

I am glad beyond words that SV isn't like that. No one should have to rack their brain over a TV show. That's why I stopped watching 24. I have enough to do in disproving the Da Vinci Code and earning my psychology degree.

Okay, that was an unecessarily long rant. I feel like a meanie. :\ Oh well. If Vessel is anywhere near as good as this, I'll be very happy!

[sheltiemom]

The episode was good, notgreat.
As soon as"Jonathan" told Clark to kill Lionel, I knew what was going to happen-Fine shows up.
Lionel cofessing to Martha was an interesting touch.
Zod is coming- here comes season finale,can you say cliff hanger??

[Best Episode - 321]

Originally posted by Summers
- Brainiac "don't touch me" before Lion-el killed him. Lame. Just stand there to die what do you. Your a freakin intelligent A.I., and all you do is stand there to be wiped out :rolleyes:.



I think that Lionel's eyes had the same effect on Fine, that the ringing Clark would hear from time to time had on him. It would render him useless for a little bit, and then draw him towards the source.

[superpyscho]

LOVED IT
Awesome argument between Lex and Clark.
Great scene with Clark and Lois regarding the piggy bank.
Clark giving Lionel a whipping was good too.
Fine playing the ghost was too Obvious.

LOVED SEEING Johnathan Kent back in action! Go John Schneider!!

[svsabbiesv]

loved it....to cry in the first 5 min of the epi!!! lol then to scream to find out that was really brainac..my emotions were all over the place...again this was great writing....i loved the whole clark and lionel going tag team !!! just like chloe said...someone forgot to tell me that hell froze over lol

[LuckyKrypto]

I really enjoyed this episode a lot!!
I am just worried that I will also enjoy next week's and then be disappointed when the new season starts..lol.
I like where I think they are going with this story, I just hope it gets developed and doesn't leave me hanging like I have felt with some episodes:(

[SVfan26]

I thought it was ok, but left wanting alot more. It was good, but the plot/reality holes seemed a little more glaring tonight than usual.

Hopefully next week's finale has me drooling for the start of S6.

[red-K glory]

This episode was great! I rate it among my favorites of season 5!
And I went wild when Jonathan turned into Brainiac because I have suspected it was really Brainiac all along! Lex's new ability is cool, and Lana is turning farther to the "dark" side it seems. It is kind of funny because I have always hated Lionel because he is such a snake but this season he is actually pretty cool even if he will probably turn on Clark in the end. Anyway the whole Brainiac/Zod plot is getting better and better and the ending scene with Clark/Lois/Chloe was cool. I was surprised because the episode ended so suddenly and it left me wanting more. So far this season is pretty good but in my opinion, if the writers stopped the whole love triangle story lines and focus more on things like Brainiac storylines it would really increase the quality of the show once again. Lana was Clark's high school crush and now they are out of high school and they are growing into adults so I think they should stop acting like they are still in high school and just decide to be friends and leave it at that. Anyway this episode rocked and I can't wait for Vessel!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:)

[clana20]

Great episode!!!!!

P.S. Why do people always feel the need to post messages on these threads before the episode airs?

[bunkmania]

Best episode this season by far

[Hop115]

best episode this season and next week will be even better

[BadToad]

Really good episode. I want Chlarkionel to form a new scoobying team. They were awesome. I had a few quibbles here and there, and lord have mercy, I hate the Lexana. But I can get over that as long as it doesn't preoccupy Clark, and it didn't.

And Dude, Lois compared Lana to a bicycle. That is all kinds of funny stuff. :lol:

[Dangerous George]

very good episode-a shot in the arm to the 5 season that has dragged along since Reckoning?

Chloe's line about Hell freezing over was choice.

good entertainment for a change

next week looks good to go.

well all righty then. bout time!

peace

[clois1938]

Best episode this season.

[TalkinMac]

Am I the only one who was somewhat dissappointed?
I found the Clois scenes to be a bit awkward.
Lana was annoying me, Clark even annoyed me with his barging into Lex's place.
I loved the comic relief and the plot and all just the characters were getting on my nerves a bit.

[TampaVille]

Originally posted by Keldaz
Why do you think its name is oracle? I havent watched spolers or trailer.


I'm almost certain it's a reference back to Mortal, where Jor-el (while possessing Lionel's body) says something to the extent of "As soon as the crystal was activated, this body became an oracle of Kryptonian knowledge, a vessel I could inhabit should the time come." That's not exact as it's from memory, but I think that's the reference they're making.

I also think it's a double meaning, as Lionel really has become an oracle of Kryptonian information.

[xrayvision]

I loved the episode. The things that did bother me were how Lana called the dorm her place, when it's Chloe's also. Did it ever cross her mind that Chloe could have let him in and that they were investigating a potential disaster? If Lex knew about it and told Lana, wouldn't she assuming Clark's secret think that he would also know or be somehow connected (since Fine was Clark's professor)? She just jumped to the conclusion that Clark was there to play stalker man.

[Son of Kal-El20]

Now this is the kind of episode I've been waiting for! Not these stupid, repetitive FotW episodes that are now insanely boring. This episode was one of the best episodes this season and this season hasn't even been that good thanks to those damn FotWs( they should all be destroyed). Finally, we get the episode we've been waiting for and not crapfest episodes like that vile excuse of an episode, Reckoning. Finally, we get episodes about Clark, his future, and his Kryptonian problems that are now arrising. I tell yah, if it weren't for these Kryptonian related episodes like this, this season would be a total failure for these type of episodes are this seasons only saving grace.

But anyway, Oracle was perfect in my opinion. Instead treading off on stupid side plots, it stayed on the more important issues like Brainiac and his really evil plans. The acting was solid by all the cast members in this episode. The best performances however were by James Marsters and John Schneider. Everytime they stepped on the screen, they totally took over the scene. All in all, I give Oracle a 10/10.

Brilliant episode! This is what Smallville is all about.

[Miss L]

I loved this one and it's a great set-up for next week. The hour went by way too fast. I'm excited for next week, but already dreading the long summer waiting for the season premiere!

Happy.

[dhacker615]

A strong episode overall. It moved the main story forward and got all the principals (including John Schneider !) some screen time. Here are my thoughts:

The Good
- A solid step forward on the Superman front. Clark was proactive from start to finish. He acted first and worried about emotions second. He behaved like something was at stake and he was the only person who could fix it.
- A solid step forward from Lex on the bad guy front. His scenes with Milton Fine are nearly as good as his scenes with Lionel. The scene at the end between he and Clark was perfect. He was even better with Lana when he didn't have to be romantic.
- Chloe was helpful, believable and showed some dimension. That is a minor miracle this season. Her bit with Clark when he was about to puch open the door was nice.
- An end to the Martha-Lionel flirtation. They cut that at exactly the right point and in exactly the right way.
- Lois was even fairly well used as the "friend who doesn't have much history". That is the best role for her.

The Bad
- The most hackneyed devices in SV are Mind Wipe, Sudden Temporary Change of Character and Someone Else Gets Kryptonian Powers. The tease for the season finale bodes very ill.
- With Pete gone and JK dead, the domestic farm scenes are awfully female. Maybe they are trying to make a point, but I am missing it.
- The lat scene with Lois & Clark was a bit ... off. Those two had great chemistry going for a while, but her 'Dear Abby' routine sucked all that energy out of the scene.

The Odd
- So wait, Lionel remembers Clark's secret, but not how to read Kryptonian? I am confused.
- Does Lex know Clark is a Kryptonian? That scene at the lab implied that he knows more than he has let on.
- When are TPTB going to find Lana's character? From "Reckoning" on, Lana has been totally unrecognizable. She has never been exactly selfless, but this is absurd.


Originally posted by BadToad
And Dude, Lois compared Lana to a bicycle. That is all kinds of funny stuff. :lol:

Not only that, but I think she also compared herself to a Harley. ED blew that line, since it is way more flirty than she delivered it. Maybe The WB wouldn't let them use the flirty take.

[nomad]

Loved it!

[shuyin131]

this was actually a good episode. I hadn't expected it to be this good after the previously terrible episodes they've been showing as of late.

The only redeemable part in Smallville that is left is the Superman mythos, they basically ruined everything else.

[Sk8erGur1]

Overall great ep. Loved it. Can't waaaait for next week!

[MamaK]

Loved it! And set up next week to be "Must See TV"!

[tjpw fanatic]

It was awesome! I loved it!

[CallMeClark]

Techinally she did not compare herself to a Harley. She doesn't know Clark and her with get together.

[superpal1]

Loved the episode. Questions were answered and great things were set up for next week.

[SnarkMasterJ]

Solid ep.

Good Chlark, good Chlarkionel, good Lexana (Lana's so going to the dark side). And awesome set-up for next week's even more awesome season finale.

I'm excited! :)

[Saber]

I thought it was an uneven episode with poorly executed scenes. It was too much for one episode to hold. Also I thought some scenes were out of character for some (Lionel, Lana & even Lex).
It had some interesting parts but as a whole it was disappointing.

[JorEl23]

The episode in and of itself had some awesome moments :

-Brainiac using JK to try and manipulate Clark/Martha to off Lionel thus ridding him of JorEl. Well concieved and well done. So well done, that I was actually worried that Brainiac was mimicing Lionel at the end when he came clean to Martha...

-Clark figuring it out

-The INTERACTION between Fine and Lex. Two evil and genius minds going at it!!!

-Chloe as always being Chloe!!

-Lex, not only catching Clark "suping up" but ALSO figuring out Fine was an alien and then Lana cluing him in on Kryptonite ( think that might be important in the future? ) Great developments!

-Lois has really stepped up and was funny and had several foreshadowing comments that seem to have increased considerably since Lana was replaced by Fiona ( LOL ) by TPTB

-And MOST of all, Lionel !! Not only was he his bastardly brilliant self in exchanges with Lex as usual, but his scenes with Clark and Martha respectively were amazing!! And when he channelled JorEl to save Clark from Brainiac, WOW!! JorEl kicks @ss!!!!

However, as a whole, the episode ( not on the scale of Hypnotic thru Fade ) and most importantly, what the season evolved into now, was a disappointment!!!!

-Lexana- garbage. I can't even look at KK anymore. Was she kidding reading Clark the riot act for being in her room??? TPTB have taken a sweet, loyal girl who has ALWAYS loved Clark since day one and turned her into a moronic, needy, tramp virtually overnight. It's pathetic. And Lex and his little sollioquy to Clark, at least that was in character but the whole arc is a JOKE!

-Correct me if I'm wrong but, didn't Clark get the ability to decipher Kryptonian when he was downloaded it from the Kawachie Caves several seasons ago?? Didn't he actually prove to Dr Swann that he could understand it?? So he needs Chloe now to figure out a message from JorEl??? Lets say for arguement sake, it was ADVANCED Kryptonian. Hello, Clark!! Naive or not, there is a multi-story library of Kryptonian knowledge that belongs to you a teleport away....

Much like Lana forgetting Lex's past and all her morals to satisfy a plotline. No continuity, this years theme.

-And, finally, Zex or Lod ( whatever you want to call him ). Are they kidding????? Lets put aside the fact that it's disappointing that we probably won't actually "see" Zod now. This has got to be the most moronic and contrived idea yet, and that's saying alot after the way the season has unfolded.

Do the math. JorEl is DEAD!! He came to Earth in the past and set up his little Kryptonian tech complete with his own INTERACTIVE programimg as a failsafe for KalEl if his theory about Krypton came to pass. Being able to channel his personality thru Lionel is farfetched but has congruity to it. Zod is a criminal who JorEl personally banished to the Phantom Zone, an INESCAPABLE void in space. So does someone want to explain how a cocktail of viruses gets him out of an impregnable prison that personifies Kryptonian genius and superior technology??? And worse still, now Lex gets superpowers??? Stupid. Lets say its a temporary way for him to possess someone, he should not be anywhere NEAR Clark's level of powers!! Again, there are more holes in this season than Swiss cheese.

Sadly, the finale will also have its cool scenes and nuances but it's essentially anticlimactic after how bad they screwed up what began as a wonderful season.... :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:



PS Hidden was the best ep of the year and maybe even the series...

[Silent Kal]

Amazing, amazing episode. My only (very mild) problem with it was Chloe's Ethan-Hunt-like hacking skills (which have grown exponentially) and the momentum-killing Clois loft scene. (Was it in the loft? if it wasn't, it should have been. geez.)

Okay, and Clark should have been able to read at least SOME of Lion-El's papers. But I'll let it go on the grounds that Chloe had to decipher patterns to figure out the message (much like WE all have been trying and mostly failing to do over the PM/ESP mystery!!!).

What was amazing about this episode is that it finally settles what's going on with Lion-El, something we've puzzled (and argued) about for months but never nailed down. Unlike so many things in the show, it actually explained it, or at least clarified it greatly. Wow. Funny how that works.

I was begging and pleading with all the powers that Lex's vaccine lab was in Level 33.1. That would have been the ultimate continuity fix for me.

Re: episode title. When Clark and Chloe ask Lionel to explain the scribblings in his notebook, he throws up his hands and says, "Don't look at me, I'm just the oracle." So there you go. Plain as day.

The Bo-fine vs. Clark fight was AWESOME. John Schneider was so great as "Evil Bo-Fine." And I disagree that it taints his memory--it actually reinforces the true memory of Bo. Clark knows for certain that his father would never be so bloodthirsty, so he was finally able to tell that Bo-Fine was a fraud.

(That's right: if no one else has done so already, I'm claiming credit for the nickname "Bo-fine." If Omar at TWoP uses it later, just remember, you read it here first!)

Overall Show Rating: 9 out of 10. Maybe 9.25. Wow. Didn't know Smallville still had it in them. Awesome. Bring on Zod-Lex.

[JorEl23]

Why are they destroying my show????????? Little did I realize the irony when I chose JorEl as my username being that the planet that is SV is ready to explode into oblivion and most of you act as if nothing is wrong...

[seraphim]

I liked this episode: finally!!! I still think the Lex and Lana thing is a mess; but I loved the Fine(Brainiac) pretending to be J. Kent! I knew it was Fine when he said to Clark to kill Lionel: that was kind of obvious for me anyway. What Lex said to Clark about going thru Lana's stuff made me cringe! He sounded like a father scolding his son. Lana seemed as if she was just there and nothing else; but overall I really enjoyed watching it and the hour did seem to go by too fast. Now if only the writers will keep this up, then S6 may be good as well.

[dhacker615]

Originally posted by CallMeClark
Techinally she did not compare herself to a Harley. She doesn't know Clark and her with get together.

Obviously she doesn't "know", but she was pretty clearly at least trying to flirt.


Originally posted by xrayvision
I loved the episode. The things that did bother me were how Lana called the dorm her place, when it's Chloe's also. Did it ever cross her mind that Chloe could have let him in and that they were investigating a potential disaster? If Lex knew about it and told Lana, wouldn't she assuming Clark's secret think that he would also know or be somehow connected (since Fine was Clark's professor)? She just jumped to the conclusion that Clark was there to play stalker man.

Lana has somehow forgotten her entire history with Clark, Lex and Chloe. It set up the scene at the end with Lex telling Clark to keep Lana out of their issues, but Clark was far to passive. Lana is behaving like a dim-witted tramp when she really should know better.

I guess the catalyst is supposed to be her break-up with Clark, but come on. Whitney died. She was stalked by Adam. Jason was using her to get to some witch spirit and then he died. None of it had much effect on her. And yet, she throws a temper tanturm the day Clark's father dies, he dumps her and this sends her over the edge? Puh-lease.

Clark (or someone) really needs to tell her off.


Originally posted by Silent Kal
What was amazing about this episode is that it finally settles what's going on with Lion-El, something we've puzzled (and argued) about for months but never nailed down. Unlike so many things in the show, it actually explained it, or at least clarified it greatly. Wow. Funny how that works.

I was begging and pleading with all the powers that Lex's vaccine lab was in Level 33.1. That would have been the ultimate continuity fix for me.

Is it just me, or did the continuity go from shaky to horrible after the comic book guys (Veriheiden and Loeb) left the staff? That coupled with Al Gough and Miles Millar being wrapped up in Aquaman has been the real problem with the "back 9" of season 5 to me. I am sure that TV money could lure a couple pretty good comic writers for Season 6. Peter David springs to mind, but there are easily a half dozen comic writers that are at least as good as Jeph Loeb that could write teen soap opera. Brian Michael Bendis is making a career out it.

[Daphne]

I liked this episode. Things seem to be heating up!

[TampaVille]

Originally posted by JorEl23


-Correct me if I'm wrong but, didn't Clark get the ability to decipher Kryptonian when he was downloaded it from the Kawachie Caves several seasons ago?? Didn't he actually prove to Dr Swann that he could understand it?? So he needs Chloe now to figure out a message from JorEl??? Lets say for arguement sake, it was ADVANCED Kryptonian. Hello, Clark!! Naive or not, there is a multi-story library of Kryptonian knowledge that belongs to you a teleport away....


Well, in the same way that English words, phrases, and letters can be combined to form words that an English-speaker would not understand just by looking at them, it seems reasonable that Kryptonian words, phrases, and characters could be similarly arranged into such a code. I think it was some sort of code Jorion-el was writing, which is why Clark couldn't just read it.

You are definitely correct though in that Clark is desperately in need of a visit to his fortress.

[xrayvision]

Originally posted by dhacker615
And yet, she throws a temper tanturm the day Clark's father dies, he dumps her and this sends her over the edge? Puh-lease.

Clark (or someone) really needs to tell her off.


I know, she was about to do the same thing to Whitney the day his father died. She has a bad habit of doing that. Maybe she will do the same to Lex the day Lionel buys the (Kent) farm.

I loved how Adam told her off in Asylum. What he said hit a deep nerve and she knew it.

[TampaVille]

Originally posted by xrayvision

I loved how Adam told her off in Asylum. What he said hit a deep nerve and she knew it.

Hey xray, what was it again that Adam said to hit a nerve with her? I'm not recalling, but it sounds good.

[spideyfan]

Awesome episode...Great plot movement and great lead into the finale...This means the finale wont have to rush things as much....

I'm glad Lionel is the good guy, cuz its about time.

Im glad JK was a part of this show till the end of "his" season.

Lois was great here, although I dont care for a Lois / Lana friendship. Actually, I dont care for Lana.

Lex is in over his head.

Lionel is the vessel of Jor-El dammit!

9/10!

[clark25]

I really enjoyed part I of the finale I hope
next week is just as good.And haveing
John Schendier back one more time was
icing on the cake anywho.It was interesting seeing Lex and Brainac haveing there little chit chat and to was
it just me our did it get cold we Lionel
was explaining to Martha that he knew
about clark and that Conversation
between Lois an Clark at the end
defetley forshadowed things to come
down the road anywho great episode
I enjoyed it.............

[Spindrift]

This was a good episode. Had lots of things going on, including deception and the discovery of deception.

Thumbs up!

[Fly by guy]

I see the season as a 9/11 flight. It started out normal and was hijacked along the way. Others try to take over and right the situation but it is already doomed.
Season 5 had such promise, then Lexana took over, ratings plummeted. New dark, unless, and boring stories became the norm. Brainiac's arc has helped but it is WAY too little, too late, and the crash and burn is a forgone conclusion.
Clana fans were hog tied and strapped in their seats as Flight SV descended into the Spirit and Lucy ratings cornfield. Oh the humanity.
Oracle stands on it's own as a "good" episode but I won't be rewatching it soon like I did the really excellent eps. like Hidden and Solitude. Didn't Al say that Hidden is his favorite? What the heck happened? AHHHHHH.....Lexana, maybe??

[Watching Smallville]

Originally posted by Summers
It was so-so. It was better than previous season lead-up; however, there were too many things that bugged:
-Mary Sue Chloe that what used a card to open Lionel's door :confused:
-Lionel S4 behavior is still not explained
-this episode proved more that it had continuity in the season itself, but not with rest of the first three seasons. Clark can read Kryptonian stupid lameo writers.
-Brainiac "don't touch me" before Lion-el killed him. Lame. Just stand there to die what do you. Your a freakin intelligent A.I., and all you do is stand there to be wiped out :rolleyes:.
-To elevate Lionel to good status they lowered Jonathan's status by having his own death become his own. If wasn't a hothead, then he might've lived longer. And just showed more why in the heck did we need someone to die on the show for the first place.....oh yea ratings.
-ZOD coming!!! Yea, we know. We knew since "Arrival". No big whoop :lol:.
-Brainaic is now T-1000 right down to the shape-shifting.
-Lois' unbiased ear...yea, right. We all know Lois hates Lex. Inconsistency again.
-What are they going to start Clois loft scenes now? Was that scene even necessary for another anvil we already know about since the moment she came on aboard. I personally would have liked a Martha/Clark scene talking about Brainiac/Jonathan instead.

The truly only thing I really liked was the parallel they used to the play of Hamlet. Other than that no big deal. All people need to watch this season was "Arrival", "Reckoning", "Oracle", and "Vessel". Everything else wasn't needed :\. Sorry, guys I wasn't that impressed :\.
Summers, even though I agree with everything you said, I still think this was a great episode. The feel of it reminded me of Rogue from Season 1, which was not a mythos ep, but still remains one of my favorites. Here's why I liked it.

The pacing was pretty impressive. Not a slow moment in the entire episode. Almost everything the characters were doing was interesting, and the story didn't linger anywhere. It kept moving.

A little character progression for a change. I've been posting "Lionel has been good since Transference" for a while along with some other people. I liked the confirmation. And even if it turns around, I still like ambiguous Lionel. If they didn't know what they were doing with him, it seems to have helped them write an interesting character.

We saw Clark start to move on, thanks to his conversation with Lios. She actually eased his mind a little. That's an important development between the two of them. He even moved a little closer to accepting his father's death when he blasted Fine with heat vision. That was pretty powerful.

The scene between JG and AT when Lionel apologized -- that has got to be one of the best scenes in the series.

The only weak points that bothered me -- because I grant everything you said is true -- were Lana and Lex. Lex doesn't ever act like he has the upper hand. How can we appreciate the turnaround at the end if Lex isn't being more convincing that he's got things under control.

And what was Lana's role -- bringing coffee to Lex and talking to Lois for 3 hours? I don't think so.

And I do think they need to tone down Clhloe's dialogue a little. I don't mind that she had the foresight to open the lock -- she's had to do it before in Mortal -- but I winced at what she said. It was like that line about the transponder in Mercy.

But other than that, the dialogue was great -- there were some classic lines. Clark's birthday scene was a nice, light touch the show has been missing lately, and it brought Clark back to his roots at the farm.

And the play on Hamlet -- very classy.

All in all, I thought it was one of the best episodes this season.

[Keldaz]

Originally posted by Krypton935
Oracle means a person considered to be a source of wise counsel or prophetic opinions. so I think Jor-El will give clark some sort of great knowledge that will answer all the questions ever asked:eek: :D

Yes, appearently now lol. But i thought that the title, Oracle wouldnt be materialistic. I mean, in a riddle kinda way :/