Why don't they write Lana out of the series?

[Kreukie]

TPTB don't seem to like her much, they never seem to do anything worth while with her character beside make her jump from guy to guy.

If they now have Lois Lane on the series and Erica's hotness (as some of you guys think she is). Why do they still need Lana/Kristin? :confused:

[Aloof]

They won't. Trust me.

[AnimeJoe]

Because Lana has that pure hotness. That sort of innocent hotness...

Lois has that sorta party girl hotness. ;)
No innocent bone in that body ;)

[Kreukie]

Originally posted by AnimeJoe
Because Lana has that pure hotness. That sort of innocent hotness...

Lois has that sorta party girl hotness. ;)
No innocent bone in that body ;)

They can use Chloe as the innocent hotness.

[mikemike]

i cant believe jonathan died instead. that is the worst thing that has ever happened on this show.

at least if she died then she would have gone out with her reputation intact. now i wish she would just get killed.

[Kreukie]

Originally posted by mikemike
at least if she died then she would have gone out with her reputation intact. now i wish she would just get killed.

Seriously. At least she would had died knowing she was loved by Clark 100% and Clark was finally able to open up to her.

Now she's just f*cked. :\

[KEakaCK]

I agree...They should write off Lana.
I am totally annoyed by that character now.

[Kreukie]

Originally posted by KEakaCK
I agree...They should write off Lana.
I am totally annoyed by that character now.

Too bad a lot more people don't feel the same way, this way she can be written off.:o

[jimmyolsenblues]

Kreukie my senitments exactly.

[wheresthefig]

I agree. Lex was one of my favorite characters but ever since they had him mooning over Lana he's become a complete wuss.

[Cookie 28]

It is sooo time for her to go. I don't care how much you like Lana, there is no good reason for her to be around anymore. She is completely annoying.

[OutlawAngel]

Lana is the type of girl who needs a man. She is the old fashioned type that needs her Prince Charming.

That is just the way that Lana is made out to be on this show.

While Lois is more of the Miss Independant type. Its the way Lois Lane has always been portrayed and the way she is meant to be.

In a way Lois and Lana are character foils and I believe they are both important to the show and Clark, but the way they are both written on this show sometimes makes me want to rip my hair out. Even the way Clark is written on this show makes me want to rip my hair out.

[shaula luthor]

Originally posted by Kreukie
TPTB don't seem to like her much, they never seem to do anything worth while with her character beside make her jump from guy to guy.

If they now have Lois Lane on the series and Erica's hotness (as some of you guys think she is). Why do they still need Lana/Kristin? :confused:

I agree. In fact, I wouldn´t miss her..... no way.



And Lana pure and innocent??? C´mon........ lol

[Kreukie]

Originally posted by OutlawAngel
Lana is the type of girl who needs a man. She is the old fashioned type that needs her Prince Charming.

That is just the way that Lana is made out to be on this show.

While Lois is more of the Miss Independant type. Its the way Lois Lane has always been portrayed and the way she is meant to be.

In a way Lois and Lana are character foils and I believe they are both important to the show and Clark, but the way they are both written on this show sometimes makes me want to rip my hair out. Even the way Clark is written on this show makes me want to rip my hair out.

Glad someone answering my question. ;)

[rumpuso]

Originally posted by AnimeJoe
Because Lana has that pure hotness. That sort of innocent hotness...

Actually tonight, I thought Lana came off more as someone with a vendetta against Clark...like she had it out for him. She just seemed so mean spirited and dark. Innocent is not how I think of her. Not at all.

[bluegayle]

Originally posted by wheresthefig
I agree. Lex was one of my favorite characters but ever since they had him mooning over Lana he's become a complete wuss.

Maybe it's Lana...every guy she comes into contact with, they lose their spine and then we hate Lana more because of what she does to the guy.

Though I guess I haven't actually seen that Lex has changed to the point of making me sick of him yet.

[F-Stop Blues]

She really has no point anymore imo. Dont get me wrong I do occasionally like her but all of the stories that involve her have to do with a boy. She cant exist by herself. They had to put her with Lex because otherwise why have her on the show. They wrote her into the mythos and that backfired so they never brought it up again. I feel bad for her because she can easily be written out of stories. I dont want to beat a dead horse or come off as a lana basher cause im really not but everyone else has their own story this year and lana's is going out with Clark and Lex, thats pretty sad imo.

[janedoe]

I really want Lana to leave the show, I used to like her character, but now there is absolutely no point in her being in the show. She seems sooo stupid.

[watcher4]

Originally posted by mikemike
i cant believe jonathan died instead. that is the worst thing that has ever happened on this show.


I agree! It is beginning to appear that Jonathan died for nothing else than Lexana. I hate that!

[aqua]

Because KK is AlMiles' obsession, plain and simple.

[watcher4]

Originally posted by Kreukie
Seriously. At least she would had died knowing she was loved by Clark 100% and Clark was finally able to open up to her.


That WOULD have been a respectable death!

[IVODARK]

Originally posted by aqua
Because KK is AlMiles' obsession, plain and simple.

Yeah, is kinda creepy actually.

[smoky]

Originally posted by F-Stop Blues
She really has no point anymore imo. Dont get me wrong I do occasionally like her but all of the stories that involve her have to do with a boy. She cant exist by herself. They had to put her with Lex because otherwise why have her on the show. They wrote her into the mythos and that backfired so they never brought it up again. I feel bad for her because she can easily be written out of stories. I dont want to beat a dead horse or come off as a lana basher cause im really not but everyone else has their own story this year and lana's is going out with Clark and Lex, thats pretty sad imo. Lana/KRISTIN is there to bring in the male demographics.

[aqua]

Originally posted by smoky
Lana/KRISTIN is there to bring in the male demographics.

I find Alison and Erica much more attractive, as do most of my friends. Obviously, this is just a little group, but to have an actress whose character is, in my opinion, bringing down the whole show, for some ratings, is crap.

[xrayvision]

Originally posted by rumpuso
Actually tonight, I thought Lana came off more as someone with a vendetta against Clark...like she had it out for him. She just seemed so mean spirited and dark. Innocent is not how I think of her. Not at all.

Hmm, you and me both. It definitely was the case that had Lex not told her to tell Clark, she wouldn't have done so. I wouldn't mind if they played her out like this for a while. I think the horror after it's all over will mess her up, but actually give her the impotice/momentum to finally fix up her life.

I have said it before, and now more than ever. Pete NEEDS to return next season. Clark is surrounded by girls that either want him (even Chloe as good as she has been falls into this category) or ones that don't think too highly of him (Lois). I did however like how they cared for him when they were looking for him in the streets. But Clark needs a male buddy-type friend, and Pete is the man. There are so many things they can do with him.


Originally posted by AnimeJoe
Because Lana has that pure hotness. That sort of innocent hotness...

Lois has that sorta party girl hotness. ;)
No innocent bone in that body ;)

Haha, I'm sure there were a lot of bones, but none were innocent.

[justsaynotokryptonite]

I used to love kristin but the pure ineptness of the writing team has made me really want her character off the show...total crap!

[SnarkMasterJ]

Why don't they write Lana out of the series?

'Cause that would mean TPTB actually want to do us all a favor, and we all know that just can't be true.

[superman_115]

I hope Lex snaps her neck.

[Kreukie]

Originally posted by superman_115
I hope Lex snaps her neck.

I feel so bad for Kristin that she has to play a character where people make comments like this about it.

Then again she make more money than any of us to play this character.

So really, she's the lucky one. :p

[bluegayle]

In one of the episode commentaries, Allison Mack talked about how she and KK are really good friends.

It's kind of hard to imagine them outside the show hanging around as friends and co-workers when we get all worked up about how their character evolves in the show.

Even John Glover and Michael Rosenbaum are awesome to hear them talking about the show, whereas we may feel like their characters are just pure evil on the show. hehe

[mbarlow]

First off, we are on a website to talk about a show, and as far as the show goes, nothing is making me happier than seeing Clark finally get over Lana.

[BadToad]

I'd like to see Lana written out early next season. Have her thing with Lex go terribly south, have her and Clark come to a nicer end to their thing (she can even find out the secret), and have her jet off to Europe again to go find herself and figure out what she wants from life. I think the show ill be alright without her, especially if they give her a really respectful exit.

[myankskent]

Originally posted by BadToad
I'd like to see Lana written out early next season. Have her thing with Lex go terribly south, have her and Clark come to a nicer end to their thing (she can even find out the secret), and have her jet off to Europe again to go find herself and figure out what she wants from life. I think the show ill be alright without her, especially if they give her a really respectful exit.

Ratings will drop if she was out of the show. Regardless of what many say on this site, the wb uses her as part of the big three for a reason. If she goes, so will a lot of fans, fans that Smallville needs to keep. This isn't Lost who has a billion fans watching. Every fan is important when it comes to smallville.

[dizzy]

Lana ......Sooo over her!!

[beefywellingtom]

Originally posted by myankskent
Ratings will drop if she was out of the show. Regardless of what many say on this site, the wb uses her as part of the big three for a reason. If she goes, so will a lot of fans, fans that Smallville needs to keep. This isn't Lost who has a billion fans watching. Every fan is important when it comes to smallville.

Well she's been apart of the Big 3 because in the beginning she was THE female focus for Clark as part of telling the Superman story. Dragging her out for this long has stalled the progression of the mythos. Which in turn produced A LOT of filler episodes because the writers seemed to have no clue how to get out of the hole they dug themselves into. Now we have the Lexana angle and it's being set up with Lex having secrets from Lana too. Sound familiar? So for the next season we'll probably get to hear the same "tell me the truth" speechs all over again. Fingers crossed that the writers have learned their lesson though.

[Wildfire]

I cant wait to see how these last two play eppys play out for her. Lets let this season play out we dont knwo she could get a decent sl to spin off from next season. If not she should really go.

[Ephrils]

Lana Lang is in the comics. Bright future and everything. From working as a reporter at the Daily Planet to being First Lady to Pete Ross, she's not going anywhere.

While I agree its justa show it HAS to affect the actor playing the role to see the fans going "Kill Lana" or "Write her out" or something like that. Michelle Trachtenberg had that when she was Dawn on Buffy the Vampire Slayer. She was glad when a couple of seasons later after she debuted, those comments ended. Why wouldn't Kristin feel the same way? She's a person too. I think that type of stuff affects them more than we'd like to believe.

[Timester]

Originally posted by myankskent
Ratings will drop if she was out of the show. Regardless of what many say on this site, the wb uses her as part of the big three for a reason. If she goes, so will a lot of fans, fans that Smallville needs to keep. This isn't Lost who has a billion fans watching. Every fan is important when it comes to smallville.

Well, I don't care. At least I (and several other) will have the show that we have been asking for years. The reason why Lost have so many people? It's not because of Kate or Ana Lucia, it's because its actually GOOD. Smallville is not Baywatch...

[myankskent]

Originally posted by Timester
Well, I don't care. At least I (and several other) will have the show that we have been asking for years. The reason why Lost have so many people? It's not because of Kate or Ana Lucia, it's because its actually GOOD. Smallville is not Baywatch...

One person doesn't destroy a show. Bad writing does, and that has been what we've seen ever since Reckoning. Getting rid of Lana is not the answer because they'll just turn someone else into the love interest. The key is to not lose focus on what the point of the show is. Don't let a love triangle take over the show, settle it already and move on.

[Timester]

Originally posted by Ephrils
Lana Lang is in the comics. Bright future and everything. From working as a reporter at the Daily Planet to being First Lady to Pete Ross, she's not going anywhere.

Wrong and wrong. No way Smallville Lana is going to be a journalist (that belongs to Chloe and Lois) and NO WAY she is going to marry Pete. Lana in the comics is less important than Jimmy Olsen, just to show how important she is. Smallville Lana has no future.

[myankskent]

Originally posted by Timester
Wrong and wrong. No way Smallville Lana is going to be a journalist (that belongs to Chloe and Lois) and NO WAY she is going to marry Pete. Lana in the comics is less important than Jimmy Olsen, just to show how important she is. Smallville Lana has no future.

And Smallville Lois has a future after she has dropped out of college and has been working at a coffee shop? The job with Martha is decent but it's not going to make her into a journalist.

[Kreukie]

Originally posted by myankskent
One person doesn't destroy a show. Bad writing does, and that has been what we've seen ever since Reckoning. Getting rid of Lana is not the answer because they'll just turn someone else into the love interest. The key is to not lose focus on what the point of the show is. Don't let a love triangle take over the show, settle it already and move on.

I agree, a lot people use Lana as the escape goat as everything bad on this series.

Writing Lana out will only result to another character (most likely Lois) to be used as their little play thing for stupid storylines.

[Timester]

Originally posted by myankskent
One person doesn't destroy a show. Bad writing does, and that has been what we've seen ever since Reckoning. Getting rid of Lana is not the answer because they'll just turn someone else into the love interest. The key is to not lose focus on what the point of the show is. Don't let a love triangle take over the show, settle it already and move on.

No, no, no... The love interest has been always Lana Lang because AlMiles are obsessed with Kristin. She wasn't even the first choice for the casting. Kate Bosworth (yes, the new Lois Lane) was the first choice as Lana. Until Kristin appeared. By Rao, if they really planned Lexana since day 1, that make it even worst, since KK was 17 when Smallville started... :\


Originally posted by Kreukie
I agree, a lot people use Lana as the escape goat as everything bad on this series.

Writing Lana out will only result to another character (most likely Lois) to be used as their little play thing for stupid storylines.

Like creating the witch arc which they admited it was to give something to Lana in season 4? Lana is not a escape goat, Lana is actually in the center of what is going bad on this series.

[Ephrils]

Lana Lang was Clark's crush in his younger years. THAT'S why Lana has always been the love interest, nothing to do with Al or Miles.

[myankskent]

Originally posted by Timester
No, no, no... The love interest has been always Lana Lang because AlMiles are obsessed with Kristin. She wasn't even the first choice for the casting. Kate Bosworth (yes, the new Lois Lane) was the first choice as Lana. Until Kristin appeared. By Rao, if they really planned Lexana since day 1, that make it even worst, since KK was 17 when Smallville started... :\

The Lexana storyline should never have been planned. Lana had to be the same age as Clark so there was no way to avoid the fact that Lex was going to be older. My point is that Lana's character does not destroy the show. They can do great things with her character if Clark let her in on the secret, but instead, they keep her in the dark and this is what you get. Love storylines aside, they don't have nearly enough stuff with Brainiac and Clark's destiny. That's the problem with the show. Giving us less love stories and more Brainiac would solve the problem, there is no need to get rid of characters to make it work.

[Timester]

Originally posted by myankskent
And Smallville Lois has a future after she has dropped out of college and has been working at a coffee shop? The job with Martha is decent but it's not going to make her into a journalist.

Are we here talking about the future we know or what? We do know, from AlMiles, that Lois Lane is going to be a journalist (EDLois, Chlois, whatever). Do you ever read anything from them about Lana's future, beside that she is not going to end with Clark? Anything?


Originally posted by Ephrils
Lana Lang was Clark's crush in his younger years. THAT'S why Lana has always been the love interest, nothing to do with Al or Miles.

Like I showed in the other thread, there was no younger romantic Clana besides Superman For All Seasons. Who ever started that "fact" should be punished and be exiled to the Phantom Zone.

[myankskent]

Originally posted by Timester
Are we here talking about the future we know or what? We do know, from AlMiles, that Lois Lane is going to be a journalist (EDLois, Chlois, whatever). Do you ever read anything from them about Lana's future, beside that she is not going to end with Clark? Anything?

They have a funny way of showing it with Lois' character. She is a disgrace compared to her comic book counterpart. That can change, but they are not doing a good job at developing her character. She's not even in every episode. She shouldn't be on the show right now anyway, if Smallville is supposed to be Clark's early years, then why have Lois? Everyone knew going in that Lana was going to be the main character in Clark's early years, if someone doesn't like that then go watch the Lois and Clark show or the superman movies. I guess those people just don't like Clark's early years then.

[Kreukie]

Originally posted by Timester
No, no, no... The love interest has been always Lana Lang because AlMiles are obsessed with Kristin. She wasn't even the first choice for the casting. Kate Bosworth (yes, the new Lois Lane) was the first choice as Lana. Until Kristin appeared. By Rao, if they really planned Lexana since day 1, that make it even worst, since KK was 17 when Smallville started... :\

Where was it that it said that Kate was the first choice to be Lana Lang?

And if Almiles are so obsessed with Kristin why don't they give her better things to do on the series, why didn't they give her their awesome creation Chloe? :rolleyes:

Who seems to do no wrong with not only the fans, but with the writers?

And why should that matter, would it had been different if Kate was Lana?

Kate is a looker too and she was only the love interest in Young American as well. Her character had a love triangle as well on that series.

Her best friend and the guy who was assume to be her real brother…talk about drama!

Pretty much she didn't stand out much from that role since it took her forever to come back after Young American.

And Kristin was 18 when she got the role and turned 19 three months after it premiered.

[Timester]

Originally posted by myankskent
The Lexana storyline should never have been planned. Lana had to be the same age as Clark so there was no way to avoid the fact that Lex was going to be older. My point is that Lana's character does not destroy the show. They can do great things with her character if Clark let her in on the secret, but instead, they keep her in the dark and this is what you get. Love storylines aside, they don't have nearly enough stuff with Brainiac and Clark's destiny. That's the problem with the show. Giving us less love stories and more Brainiac would solve the problem, there is no need to get rid of characters to make it work.

Character, no. Storywise, yes. And if the story around a character hurts the show, then the problem is simple, ditched the character (or get new writers/producers, things that will not happen).

[myankskent]

Originally posted by Timester

Like I showed in the other thread, there was no younger romantic Clana besides Superman For All Seasons. Who ever started that "fact" should be punished and be exiled to the Phantom Zone.

Hey, bottom line is Lana is in Clark's younger years on this show. Lois shouldn't be in smallville and yet she is. So if you go 100 percent by the comics then you will be disappointed with almost everything in this show.


Originally posted by Timester
Character, no. Storywise, yes. And if the story around a character hurts the show, then the problem is simple, ditched the character (or get new writers/producers, things that will not happen).

I don't agree. Getting rid of characters is not the answer. The writing is the problem and it's all about what the writers decide to make the main point of the show. If Clark's character actually seeked out JorEl after Reckoning rather than standing around with his thumb up his a$$, then maybe we would get somewhere with his development. Every character is "broken" in this show right now. It's not just about Lana.

[Timester]

Originally posted by Kreukie
Where was it said that Kate was the first choice to be Lana Lang and if Almiles were so obsessed with Kristin why aren't they giving her better things to do on the series, why didn't they give her their awesome creation Chloe?:rolleyes:

Didn't you knew? Lana Lang IS the creation. Yes, Al Gough said it.

Chloe is actually a copy-paste of the old pre-Crisis Superboy Lana Lang.

And, yes, that said about Kate during that event that happened in France last year.


Originally posted by Kreukie
And Kristin was 18 when she got the role and turned 19 three months after it premiered.

Thanks, I can't be right on everything. :p


Originally posted by myankskent
Hey, bottom line is Lana is in Clark's younger years on this show. Lois shouldn't be in smallville and yet she is. So if you go 100 percent by the comics then you will be disappointed with almost everything in this show.

Actually, I can bring a comic where Lois met Superboy in Smallville... :p


Originally posted by myankskent
I don't agree. Getting rid of characters is not the answer. The writing is the problem and it's all about what the writers decide to make the main point of the show. If Clark's character actually seeked out JorEl after Reckoning rather than standing around with his thumb up his a$$, then maybe we would get somewhere with his development. Every character is "broken" in this show right now. It's not just about Lana.

Unfortunally, we can't choose the writers/producers...

[myankskent]

Originally posted by Timester
Didn't you knew? Lana Lang IS the creation. Yes, Al Gough said it.


Nice joke, but Lana Lang did actually exist. What Gough said is ridiculous, but she is a real character.



Chloe is actually a copy-paste of the old pre-Crisis Superboy Lana Lang.

And, yes, that said about Kate during that event that happened in France last year.



Thanks, I can't be right on everything. :p



Actually, I can bring a comic where Lois met Superboy in Smallville... :p



Unfortunally, we can't choose the writers/producers... [/B]

And you can't choose the characters either. There are so many superman comics around that you can't say that because this particular one had it this way, Smallville should do the same. Smallville is Smallville. They take bits and pieces from the movies and the various comics and put it into the show, along with their ideas. If you don't like it, then I don't know what to tell you.

[Kreukie]

Originally posted by Timester
Didn't you knew? Lana Lang IS the creation. Yes, Al Gough said it.

Chloe is actually a copy-paste of the old pre-Crisis Superboy Lana Lang.

How so?

Pre Crisis Superboy Lana was always trying to find out the truth if Clark and Superboy were one in the same.

Pre-Crisis Superboy Lana Lang dated football players and was a cheerleader

Pre-Crisis Superboy Lana Lang played with spells and was once powerful due to all the spells she played with (Isobel much).

Pre-Crisis Superboy Lana was crushed on by Superboy and Clark and a lot other guys.

Pre-Crisis Superboy Lana was popular.

Pre-Crisis Superboy Lana lived with her aunt because her father was always away in other countries.

Pre-Crisis Superboy lived next door to Clark.

Pre-Crisis Superboy Lana wasn't a report it wasn't until the Lois Lane comics that we saw Lana as a report…. So I guess Chloe has a little bit of that and the friendship Lana had with Pete in the Superboy series.

So really, I don’t see how Chloe the copy and paste Lana from the Superboy comics.


And, yes, that said about Kate during that event that happened in France last year.

That's funny, Kate the future Lois was a choice for Lana Lang and Kristin the Lana Lang of now was called out by Lois Lane from the past movies to be a good Lois Lane in the movie of now.


Actually, I can bring a comic where Lois met Superboy in Smallville... :p

She meets Superboy not Clark Kent and she doesn't even stay there to live for a good two years. :rolleyes:

If that's canon, then don't complain about the witch storyline because that's canon as well...


Unfortunally, we can't choose the writers/producers... [/B]

Yes they can... they got rid of a lot of writers after season three and got new ones for season four and five.

[Timester]

Originally posted by myankskent
Nice joke, but Lana Lang did actually exist. What Gough said is ridiculous, but she is a real character.

And you can't choose the characters either. There are so many superman comics around that you can't say that because this particular one had it this way, Smallville should do the same. Smallville is Smallville. They take bits and pieces from the movies and the various comics and put it into the show, along with their ideas. If you don't like it, then I don't know what to tell you.

I can respond both at the same time, since both are connected. The problems are exactly what the producers think, they think that created Lana Lang, they think that the triangle is the best story ever made. I never said we could choose the characters, but we can choose if we like them or not. And we can choose if we like what the writers write or not. Because, someone in their sane mind, would see that Lana rebounding to Lex(which actually makes her character, since a character is made of actions of their own) with Clark jealous is an AWFUL idea.

But there is a catch, everything of this comes from AlMiles, the ones that think that created the character AND those we can't choose. Since we can't choose the producers, we can only force them to change the character/story (no change) or complain about her until someone superior to them forces the changes.

[netlynn]

Originally posted by Kreukie
Yes they can... they got rid of a lot of writers after season three and got new ones for season four and five.

I'm thinking we need some new ones for season 6

[Timester]

Originally posted by Kreukie
How so?

Pre Crisis Superboy Lana was always trying to find out the truth if Clark and Superboy were one in the same.

Yes, part of her journalist side.


Originally posted by Kreukie
Pre-Crisis Superboy Lana Lang dated football players and was a cheerleader

Wrong. She was a journalist and had a crush on Clark, just like Chloe.


Originally posted by Kreukie
Pre-Crisis Superboy Lana Lang played with spells and was once powerful due to all the spells she played with (Isobel much).

Different, she was the Insect Queen (first because of alien powers, then because of powers from Egypt).


Originally posted by Kreukie
Pre-Crisis Superboy Lana was crushed on by Superboy and Clark and a lot other guys.

Just like Chloe.



Originally posted by Kreukie
Pre-Crisis Superboy Lana was popular.

Just like Chloe, she was prom queen.


Originally posted by Kreukie
Pre-Crisis Superboy Lana lived with her aunt because her father was always away in other countries.

Wrong, her uncle named Professor Potter (her father was an archeologist).


Originally posted by Kreukie
Pre-Crisis Superboy lived next door to Clark.

Not that is that important.


Originally posted by Kreukie
Pre-Crisis Superboy Lana wasn't a report it wasn't until the Lois Lane comics that we saw Lana as a report…. So I guess Chloe has a little bit of that and the friendship Lana had with Pete in the Superboy series.

Wrong, she was since created with the intention of being "Lois Lane of Smallville".


Originally posted by Kreukie
So really, I don’t see how Chloe the copy and paste Lana from the Superboy comics.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lana_Lang
http://supermanica.info/wiki/index.php/Lana_Lang

Pretty much like Chloe.


Originally posted by Kreukie
Yes they can... they got rid of a lot of writers after season three and got new ones for season four and five.

I know, it were the ones that were against AlMiles' of drama and angst...

[myankskent]

Originally posted by Timester
I can respond both at the same time, since both are connected. The problems are exactly what the producers think, they think that created Lana Lang, they think that the triangle is the best story ever made. I never said we could choose the characters, but we can choose if we like them or not. And we can choose if we like what the writers write or not. Because, someone in their sane mind, would see that Lana rebounding to Lex(which actually makes her character, since a character is made of actions of their own) with Clark jealous is an AWFUL idea.

But there is a catch, everything of this comes from AlMiles, the ones that think that created the character AND those we can't choose. Since we can't choose the producers, we can only force them to change the character/story (no change) or complain about her until someone superior to them forces the changes.

I agree with you on Lexana, no one hates that storyline more than I do. And anyone who thought that Clark would just go his separate way with Lexana going on is sorely mistaken. Not saying that you did Timester, but there are other people who wanted the lexana arc because it would move clark away from Lana. That is the exact opposite of what's going on now.

As far as changing the characters, I don't see that happening. TPTB are content with what they have and Lana is an integral part of the story. I will bet anyone here that Clark and Lana will have a long scene together in the series finale or the last couple of episodes to close up their part of the story. There's nothing that we can do about it and we all knew going in that we were going to get Lana, Lana and more Lana from this series. This series is about Clark and Lana, Superman is about Clark and Lois. There's no changing that now.

[Xsmallville_obsessedX]

I am probably the only person here with this opinion, but I love Lana....:D Yes, the Lexana storyline has GOT to go. But completely write Lana off? I don't think so. I do agree, however, that they should give her a better story arc (Please Lord not another Isobel/witch arc). But, no way should they write her off. Not everybody hates her, you know. Yes, probably the majority of people on this board do, but we are not the only people who watch Smallville.

[ClarkSupportsOrganic]

I dont think they'll ever write Lana off the series: she's part of the big three. Plus, she creates a lot of drama on the show.

But, even though the writers obviously like Lana a lot, I believe that this season Lana has had LESS airtime than Chloe!! Lana was missing for 2 episodes and she appeared only briefly in Mercy. Chloe has been playing a bigger role in most of the stories (presumably because she is so well liked in comparison to Lana). So we can thank the writers for that. :)

[The Great Ymmij]

No Xsmallville obsessedX, you're not the only Lana Lover. I love her too, the actress moreso.

[netlynn]

Originally posted by Xsmallville_obsessedX
I am probably the only person here with this opinion, but I love Lana....:D Yes, the Lexana storyline has GOT to go. But completely write Lana off? I don't think so. I do agree, however, that they should give her a better story arc (Please Lord not another Isobel/witch arc). But, no way should they write her off. Not everybody hates her, you know. Yes, probably the majority of people on this board do, but we are not the only people who watch Smallville.

I agree 100%!!!! IMO I believe people would be more accepting of Lana if Clark would just tell her the truth already, if they don't remain a couple fine, but just tell her!!!

[watcher4]

Originally posted by mbarlow
First off, we are on a website to talk about a show, and as far as the show goes, nothing is making me happier than seeing Clark finally get over Lana.

What show are you watching?:confused:

[biggkoz]

Lana gotz ta go.

[Kreukie]

Originally posted by Timester
[B]Wrong. She was a journalist and had a crush on Clark, just like Chloe.

Lana in the Superboy series was a cheerleader.

Show me proof where she's a reporter in the Superboy series... I have comic covers of her with her cheerleading outfit on.

Also Clark/Superboy liked Lana as much as Lana liked Clark.

Hence why Lois Lane would always be jealous of Lana in the Lois Lane series. because Superboy/Lana always had a thing back in Smallville.

There was also one superboy issue where Clark goes to the future and runs into Lana, he sees a ring on her wedding finger and he asks Lana if they're married... where Pete then comes out of the house calling for Lana, but he refers to her as "Mrs.Ross."

Clark freaks and runs away and Lana yells after him but he doesn't stop, so the last thing she yells out is that he'll always be her first love.

Point is, Chlark has always been one-sided... much like Clana in post crisis... not Pre Crisis Superboy where they both liked each other.


Different, she was the Insect Queen (first because of alien powers, then because of powers from Egypt).

Why is it different, she played with spells. I have the issue where she's playing with a spells to make herself powerful so she can help Superboy. Also an issue of elsewhere where she comes back 700 years later and ends up with Clark and when Batman asks how she did it, she explains that all those years of playing with spells have helped her live for so many years.


Just like Chloe, she was prom queen.

What does that have to do with being popular in general?

If I recall Chloe didn't win because she was miss.popular, she won because people liked what she had to say.

Also Lana never won prom queen in the comics anyway.


Wrong, her uncle named Professor Potter (her father was an archeologist).

Aunt, uncle, whatever... she didn't live with any of her parents, then post crisis she lived with just her aunt.


Pretty much like Chloe.

In your eyes maybe. :lol:

[watcher4]

It appears that the writers may have painted themselves in a corner with the character of Lana...IMHO. However, I have read posts which suggest that Lana is the key to everything in the series. I guess...I would call that a touchstone. Personally, I don't see that. I just wish the writers would write the character of Lana....better.

[clana20]

Originally posted by netlynn
I agree 100%!!!! IMO I believe people would be more accepting of Lana if Clark would just tell her the truth already, if they don't remain a couple fine, but just tell her!!!

Exactly, The only reason i'm watching now is to see when Clark does finally tell her and see how it finally resolves, and if he doesnt tell her and this lexana crap continues, I wont buy another season.!

[smoky]

I thought Al/Miles said she wouldn't know the secret until the end of the series because they think once she knows, the shows over.

[Dangerous George]

Well, if he has truly "moved on," now he knows where he can possibly move too. After all he's already "seen" lana and now he has something to do a comparative analysis with - yeah. he's moved on! lol.

***********************

Well, it is called Smallville and we found out that her family's history revolves around Smallville, her real poppa is Henry Small, named after her people - she’s got more roots there than any other character; her grand aunt? was hooked up with clark's daddy, seems pretty core here.

TPTB have placed her well inside the mythos of this sad tale and it doesn't look good for her future either. but it does appear that she's dug in the Smallville mythos’ like a Texas tick - ain't g'wan nowhars 'atall. Only way to remove a tick is with fire. Well maybe only one. Heat vision anyone? Any takers? No? lol

naw, she should stay as the customary eye candy for the drooling crowd of juvenile male idle adolescence. lol.


Peace

excuse the prior post

this thang takes some gettin' use to

[Timester]

Originally posted by Kreukie
Lana in the Superboy series was a cheerleader.

Show me proof where she's a reporter in the Superboy series... I have comic covers of her with her cheerleading outfit on.

Also Clark/Superboy liked Lana as much as Lana liked Clark.

Hence why Lois Lane would always be jealous of Lana in the Lois Lane series. because Superboy/Lana always had a thing back in Smallville.

There was also one superboy issue where Clark goes to the future and runs into Lana, he sees a ring on her wedding finger and he asks Lana if they're married... where Pete then comes out of the house calling for Lana, but he refers to her as "Mrs.Ross."

Clark freaks and runs away and Lana yells after him but he doesn't stop, so the last thing she yells out is that he'll always be her first love.

Point is, Chlark has always been one-sided... much like Clana in post crisis... not Pre Crisis Superboy where they both liked each other.



Why is it different, she played with spells. I have the issue where she's playing with a spells to make herself powerful so she can help Superboy. Also an issue of elsewhere where she comes back 700 years later and ends up with Clark and when Batman asks how she did it, she explains that all those years of playing with spells have helped her live for so many years.



What does that have to do with being popular in general?

If I recall Chloe didn't win because she was miss.popular, she won because people liked what she had to say.

Also Lana never won prom queen in the comics anyway.



Aunt, uncle, whatever... she didn't live with any of her parents, then post crisis she lived with just her aunt.



In your eyes maybe. :lol:

http://www.retroweb.com/comics/superboy.html

Nowhere I see Lana being a cheerleader in the covers. And she was a journalist, I already posted the links.

The problem here is you haven't brought nothing to proof what you are saying.

PS: Saying that the Insect Queen is the same as a witch is like saying that Superman is Merlin...

[AgentPat]

Originally posted by Timester
No, no, no... The love interest has been always Lana Lang because AlMiles are obsessed with Kristin. She wasn't even the first choice for the casting. Kate Bosworth (yes, the new Lois Lane) was the first choice as Lana. Until Kristin appeared.... Something's not jiving here. Are you sure you're not confusing the SV casting of Clark with Lana? 'Cause it was Routh who auditioned for the SV role and was rejected. Putting aside the fact that G&M said Kreuk was their first choice on the S1 DVD commentary track for the Pilot episode, the odds that Routh *and* Bosworth - the two leads in a 200 gazillion dollar tentpole Superman film - BOTH auditioned for the lead roles in a Superman TV show six years ago are pretty astronomical. Now, I *suppose* it could be true - stranger coincidences have happened - but this is the first time I've heard Bosworth's name mentioned in reference to SV and I've followed both productions pretty closely over the last few years.

On topic... there's no way they'll ditch Kreuk. She is the second lead in the show and a HUGE ratings draw. Fans may not be too fond of what the writers have done to the character, but they won't stop watching the show because of it. Many *would* stop watching if she were written off however. It's just the way it is, and TPTB know it. It's not a matter of playing favorites; it's a matter of the show bringing in consistent numbers in the targeted demographic of males 18-34.

[Watching Smallville]

I think they said KK was the first actor they cast -- not that she was their first choice. So it could be that they had someone else in mind until they found her.

TW was their first choice for Clark. Interesting note: According to the commentary, Jensen Ackles was runner up.

I think there's little to no chance that SV will write KK off the show. She's one of the main three characters. It would be like writing Monica off Friends.

[watcher4]

Originally posted by smoky
I thought Al/Miles said she wouldn't know the secret until the end of the series because they think once she knows, the shows over.

So, are you saying that Lana IS like a cornerstone to the series?:confused:

[Carras]

ever since episode 100 I've been wishing for her death.
Please Lana just DIE already!!

[chloefan5]

Lana will alwaysstay with the show forever to serve as the object of every man's affection.
Whitney- died
Adam- dead/died
Jason-died
Clark- Pa Kent died for her and now its over with Clark
Lex- well, let's see

Fact- Chloe is more awesome than Lana
She just is.

Face it Lana, you're amazing! (ugh...)

[CK&CK]

Originally posted by AnimeJoe
Because Lana has that pure hotness. That sort of innocent hotness...

Lois has that sorta party girl hotness. ;)
No innocent bone in that body ;)

I never thought Lana was unattractive....and your right.....she can be hot (face wise) in that innocent hotness way that you speak of.....but for me her looks get boring quick (like after the first half of season 1....actually I still think she's always been over rated....but that's just my opinion). Although I did do a double take in Fade's ending Loft scene.....must have been her hair (when her hair is fluffed out instead of flat.....I usually find her very hot, but again, just in her face)....I was like....hummmm.....but then I remembered how *thin she is....and I went straight back to "ehh"..........(*not that thin is bad at all.....but thin without the curves?......just doesn't work for me).

I prefer Chloe's looks and body to Lana & Lois.....although I'll be the first to admit that Lois' Face & Body are more classic centerfold material than the other two girls. Them long legs do go a long way!

Now to stay on topic, I'm not sure if writting Lana out is the answer......she's always been annoying to me......but what I hate most is that she makes Clark Kent look like a *** MOD EDIT: Offensive language moron.......Actually, to writting her out, I'd have to say no (much as my heart would like to say yes).....they need to resolve the Clark & Lana's situation........friends again someday?.....Yes!.......Lovers again....OH Hell No! And How the Hell can Tom Welling play Clark Kent with a straight face?!......he's gotta know how stupid & whipped he's coming accross as.

***Sorry Mod, although I used the $$ signs.....I guess it's still "pushing the envolope" as I'm used to saying.

[GooN]

every episode is a bonus cos she's in it, innit. but i don't like her character anymore, so yeah rub her out of the picture.

the problem is she's like a whinging,annoyingly-possesive,naive little schoolgirl who used to be a great dansel in distress but is just plain boring now. again i must stress that this hate is not anything to do with her looks, i have more substance then that :D

but ye where the fudge does she get her money from? as far as i know she ain't got a job, she ain't studying, maybe lex is her sugar daddy now....would explain why she wants him.

[xrayvision]

Maybe Nell and her once again ghost boyfriend Jonathan Kent rob banks in Metropolis and send her some?

[Alicia Baker]

Originally posted by mikemike
i cant believe jonathan died instead. that is the worst thing that has ever happened on this show.

at least if she died then she would have gone out with her reputation intact. now i wish she would just get killed.

Agree. I was so happy when she was dead. I hate Jor-el now lol

[ZoZo]

Originally posted by myankskent
Ratings will drop if she was out of the show. Regardless of what many say on this site, the wb uses her as part of the big three for a reason. If she goes, so will a lot of fans, fans that Smallville needs to keep. This isn't Lost who has a billion fans watching. Every fan is important when it comes to smallville. [B]

and you know why that is? Because lost has solid writing 24/7. Smallville used to be close in early seasons but now, no more.

The writers keep repeating the same formula. Annoying. Lost gets its audience through obviously the mysteries of the island but good damn writing. It would be no use having this island with bad writing.


Smallville is just annoying me now.

[watcher4]

I must confess that after Reckoning I was hot for Lana to die. It just floored me that TPTB would kill off the best JK ever for...........Lana! All I know is that Lana appears to be the obsession of TPTB. That said, there is absolutely NO WAY that Lana will ever be killed off SV. She will be the center of the show til the bitter end!:mad:

[cotton candy girl]

The way they set up JK's death made it seem like it was in exchange for Lana when that wasn't the case at all. Jonathan was supposed to die because of the deal he made with Jor-El. In my mind, TPTB did this because they figured a JK death would be expected, so they decided to kill Lana first for dramatic effect. Lana was never supposed to die. They could just as easily have killed Chloe, but they chose Lana. But again, I think Lana's death had nothing to do with Jonathan Kent's.

[netlynn]

Don't forget about Lois the second time around....she could have been the one who died but Clark saved her as well

[Mr.Magic]

Originally posted by ZoZo
[B]

and you know why that is? Because lost has solid writing 24/7. Smallville used to be close in early seasons but now, no more.

The writers keep repeating the same formula. Annoying. Lost gets its audience through obviously the mysteries of the island but good damn writing. It would be no use having this island with ****** writing.


Smallville is just annoying me now.

What makes Lost's writing better than Smallville's are the great continuity and the characterizations. But Lost isn't the can all be all of tv series, it's just too slow and boring as a whole.

[sari_chem]

The way they set up JK's death made it seem like it was in exchange for Lana when that wasn't the case at all. Jonathan was supposed to die because of the deal he made with Jor-El. In my mind, TPTB did this because they figured a JK death would be expected, so they decided to kill Lana first for dramatic effect. Lana was never supposed to die. They could just as easily have killed Chloe, but they chose Lana. But again, I think Lana's death had nothing to do with Jonathan Kent's


agreed

[myankskent]

Originally posted by watcher4
I must confess that after Reckoning I was hot for Lana to die. It just floored me that TPTB would kill off the best JK ever for...........Lana! All I know is that Lana appears to be the obsession of TPTB. That said, there is absolutely NO WAY that Lana will ever be killed off SV. She will be the center of the show til the bitter end!:mad:

I must admit that after Reckoning, this show has been pretty bad, cyborg excluded.

[Dangerous George]

CK & CK,

Hmmm, a meat and potatoes fella, huh?

and a connoisseur at that!

well alrighty then. lol

[CK&CK]

Originally posted by Dangerous George
CK & CK,

Hmmm, a meat and potatoes fella, huh?

and a connoisseur at that!

well alrighty then. lol

If by "meat & potatoes" you mean I prefer "stocky/curvy....with a tad bit on the thick side....and yet soft as a pillow", yeah......that would be me.

Just give me some "meat & potatoes" and a bottle of red wine! What can I say......man does not live by bread alone.

[Dangerous George]

lol

for sure, buddy boy, for sure

[AngylWylde]

yes, indeed, lana is FAR from pure and innocent. chloe is the most innocent female character on this show as far this goes.

anyway, i agree - lana doesn't have much of a purpose anymore. oh wait - except to make people dislike the lex character more. it's pathetic - but tptb are having to use this as a major method to either make fans disgusted with lex and/or dislike him further.

[cotton candy girl]

Lana has nothing to do with people disliking Lex, and I pretty much think TPTB are NOT using Lexana to make people hate Lex. If anything, they seem to want to make him more likable (sappy) before he totally turns evil.

[Watching Smallville]

Originally posted by cotton candy girl
Lana has nothing to do with people disliking Lex, and I pretty much think TPTB are NOT using Lexana to make people hate Lex. If anything, they seem to want to make him more likable (sappy) before he totally turns evil.
If that's so, it's not working for me. I like Lex a lot less for pursuing a very vulnerable Lana so soon after she breaks up with Clark. It makes him look predatory.

[cotton candy girl]

Originally posted by Watching Smallville
If that's so, it's not working for me. I like Lex a lot less for pursuing a very vulnerable Lana so soon after she breaks up with Clark. It makes him look predatory.

That's an angle that I wouldn't argue with, but you must admit that for some, they think Lex is romantic, so I think it depends on the person. The argument that I had was that Lana's not bringing Lex down. But I kind of agree with your take on the situation; Lex is making himself un-likable, not Lana.

[myankskent]

Yeah, as I've said before, it's not that the writers don't know what to do with Lana's character, the writers don't know what to do with Lex's character. They are afraid to make him all out evil because then he would be isolated from everyone on the show, so they are using Lana as Lex's connection to Clark and sort of making Lex out to be the hero. You can do so much with Lana's character, it's just that they don't know what to do with Lex's character. Lex and Clark are the only two characters that matter on this show, everyone else is not as important. But if you screw up Clark and Lex's character, the show turns to mud, as we are seeing post reckoning.

[Watching Smallville]

I think that's an interesting idea -- that they're having trouble writing Lex as a less ambiguous character. I'm inclined to agree with you. But why would they have trouble writing Evil Lex? They did such a fabulous job with Evil Lionel. I love Evil Lionel. And he was everywhere, with his evil fingers in everything.

[Ketchup]

They did an excellent job writing Evil Lex before the last few eppies. Its the Lexana that they can't handle. Even if the idea of the ship doesn't make you puke, you have to agree that its horribly written. Now if I was Kristin, I'd not renew my contract next year and get out of the show sometime in the new few episodes. Die, leave, whatever, Kristin needs to save her reputation before her character become so pointless and ridiculous that everyone will start blaming her for AlMiles' lack of writing ability.

[myankskent]

Originally posted by Watching Smallville
I think that's an interesting idea -- that they're having trouble writing Lex as a less ambiguous character. I'm inclined to agree with you. But why would they have trouble writing Evil Lex? They did such a fabulous job with Evil Lionel. I love Evil Lionel. And he was everywhere, with his evil fingers in everything.

It's because Lionel was always intended to be evil. He was also Lex's father and Lex wasn't going to turn his back on Lionel at that point in time. Plus, Lionel snuck around a lot with what he did. He wasn't featured in every episode either. The first 3 seasons were all buidling up to Lionel landing in jail. That will never happen for Lex, at least on Smallville. So in order for the writers to keep Lex involved with the other characters on this show, they have to make it appear that he is a hero to some, mainly Lana. Otherwise, who would possibly want to go have a conversation with Lex these days?

[Dangerous George]

AngylWylde,

Chloe is most innocent? Well, let's see.

What episode was it? Mortal? That the clana was in full bloom and Chloe setup Clark for the kill by her little psycho playmate with the bomb who shot a known vulnerable Clark in the chest and cancelled any hope of clana in Clark's mind? She kept going on in the episode where they were rebuilding the town and farms about how Clark could just get on with his life as a mere human. The girl has been plottin' from the kick. Sure she appears as the "sage" giving out the on time advise, but the girl is thinking things out in the long scheme of things. She has already anticipated what will the end be. She has to, that is her style, that is who she is. She unfortunately has no clue that Clark and Lois her cousin is on the far horizon as an item, that will again blow a hole in her scheme for the Creature (as Lex calls him in later life). But she is resolute and will again try to weave her scheme. It's in her nature. She knew from the kick that Clark was ga ga over lana way back in the beginning, but she did not let that stop her drive to achieve her goal of driving that wedge between them so that she could have a fair shot at him without the competition of a lana lang- which in Clark’s mind, is no competition. Lana is to Clark the epitome of the highly celebrated song of the fifties, “I only have eyes for you.” Sung by the Flamingoes - yeah I dated muself- Now Chloe knows this going in and has attempted to insert herself between throughout the series, remember when she was bitten by that Krypto bug in the cave? She knew that Clark had asked Lana out for a true date. What did she do? Get right in the middle of it, very clumsily but she had no inhibitions regarding her real desires and freely allowed her true nature to come forward. Do you remember the episode that Clark was shot by a krypto bullet? When he went to the Talon and Lana and he were on the outs as it were, and he grabbed her hand as she pulled to walk away and they kinda stopped in that moment of time and looked at each other longingly? Who pops up and walks right through them as a break to reveal the gill boy pics? Brilliant! The girl plots! Again, when Alicia revealed Clark’s true nature to Chloe, what did she do? Like a shrew banker she pocketed that data, that master chip to be cashed in at a later date. “Clark, I would die before I tell your secret.” That makes good copy for later use when all hells breaks out and who do you turn to in a time of high need? The sage, why of course! I tell yuh AM is a great actress-she wears a flawless masque, great canvas-a true artist. So don’t let the smooth taste fool yuh regarding Chloe. The gal is working it all out in her head to come out on top. Wonder if the TPTB are even aware of what they have portrayed with this character? She is by far the most interesting character of the show and one has to attribute that to AM all by her lonesome!

Whew. Sorry for the long diatribe.

what say ye?

Peace.

[Dangerous George]

what did I tell yuh?!

the worlds gonna end her Clark and I may never see yuh. Come here big boy. lol.

because of Brainiac, Chloe had to take off the pretense mask and simply go for it.

told yuh.