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sstray72
04-27-2006, 06:04 PM
Chloe shall once again plant the seeds of journalism into Clark. My bet is that it will stick this time!!! :D

CHLARK!!!!! :D :D

TrevorH
04-27-2006, 06:05 PM
Chloe with the intervention press pass, nice.

F-Stop Blues
04-27-2006, 06:05 PM
I thought he was saying boyfriend and I was like Did I miss something?

shy175223
04-27-2006, 06:08 PM
I thought he did say boyfriend but if he did say boy Friday it makes sense.

Superman_Beyond
04-27-2006, 06:09 PM
I knew she probably made the press pass. Someone was saying Clark was working at the DP>

scoff
04-27-2006, 06:09 PM
Originally posted by F-Stop Blues
I thought he was saying boyfriend and I was like Did I miss something?

I know what you mean, but came to my senses and realized TPTB wouldn't be that kind.

attitudejc
04-27-2006, 06:16 PM
man, i missed that whole scene.

God-Man
04-27-2006, 06:17 PM
Great scene. Clark needs to get into journalism NOW.

Rosey
04-27-2006, 06:18 PM
Gotta love the Chlark. :)

But how much longer will we have real reporters at real newspapers what with all of the internet news and blogs? It's going to screw up the mythos in the future. Sooner or later Clark's occupation will have to change.

scoff
04-27-2006, 06:19 PM
Super Blogger!

sstray72
04-27-2006, 06:22 PM
Clark will become paparrazzi. :D He'll be taking pictures of Chloe.

LastingChlarker
04-27-2006, 07:06 PM
Good going with the press pass Chloe.

bluegayle
04-27-2006, 08:01 PM
Originally posted by Rosey
But how much longer will we have real reporters at real newspapers what with all of the internet news and blogs? It's going to screw up the mythos in the future. Sooner or later Clark's occupation will have to change.

I thought about about this also, as I watched how different "Lois and Clark" and "Smallville" are going about getting their clues and story lines done.

Heck they were still calling their stories in from pay phones and saving data on floppy discs on "Lois and Clark". They had computer monitors on their desks but you rarely actually saw them doing anything with it.

I think the reporting adventures still can be done though. Just the part about how it gets to print and where some of their clues come from, will have to change.

I'm curious to see how "Superman Returns" will handle that aspect, even if we just see it for a short time whereas the rest of the movie is about Lex/Clark/Lois again.

Aloof
04-27-2006, 08:01 PM
Chlark!!! :D

WriteAngel
04-27-2006, 11:39 PM
Love all Chlark! cant wait to see this episode!

Chiriru
04-28-2006, 12:41 AM
Did anyone else think it was a play on the movie "His Girl Friday"? Also a riff on the orginal Chloe site, Girl Friday (named from that movie.)

Summary for those who don't know it:


The Front Page, Ben Hecht and Charles MacArthur's classic 1928 newspaper play, has had three official film versions and contributed structural DNA to half the movies ever made about professional camaraderie and fierce love-hate friendships. Lewis Milestone's 1931 movie is well respected (Billy Wilder's 1974 version isn't), but this is one case where the remake towers brilliantined head and blocked shoulders above the original.

Howard Hawks had the inspired notion of making Hildy Johnson--the ace newsman whom demonic editor Walter Burns is trying to keep from quitting and getting married--a she instead of a he. What's more, she's not only Walter's star reporter but also his ex-wife. When Hildy (Rosalind Russell) comes to tell Walter (Cary Grant) she's leaving the newspaper business, he bamboozles her into carrying out one last assignment--a death-row interview with a little nebbish (John Qualen) convicted of killing a policeman. It sounds like a snap, but before you can say screwball comedy, the press room of the Criminal Courts Building has become ground zero for all the lunacy a jailbreak, a shooting, an impromptu suicide, a corrupt city administration, and the most Machiavellian "hero" in the American cinema can supply.

His Girl Friday is one of the, oh, five greatest dialogue comedies ever made; Hawks had his cast play it at breakneck speed, and audiences hyperventilate trying to finish with one laugh so they can do justice to the four that have accumulated in the meantime. Russell, not Hawks's first choice to play Hildy, is triumphant in the part, holding her own as "one of the guys" and creating an enduring feminist icon. Grant is a force of nature, giving a performance of such concentrated frenzy and diamond brilliance that you owe it to yourself to devote at least one viewing of the movie to watching him alone. But then you have to go back (lucky you) and watch it again for the sake of the press-room gang--Roscoe Karns, Porter Hall, Cliff Edwards, Regis Toomey, Frank Jenks, and others--the kind of ensemble work that gets character actors onto Parnassus.

It's a major major Chloisy ref.

Nightvision
04-28-2006, 01:04 AM
I loved the Chlark in this episode! Especially the way Chloe pinned on the press pass for him. So sweet =D

Chiriru
04-28-2006, 01:13 AM
The Press Pass pinning reminded me of Tempest a lot. It was so SO cute.

smallvillerocks45
04-28-2006, 01:15 AM
He's her "Boy Friday", and she's his "Krypto Hag". Aww...I like it. LoL :D

Chiriru
04-28-2006, 01:23 AM
Given the connotations of Boy Friday (a play on Girl Friday which was a gender swap The Front Page) of the snarky reportery couple. Given that this means their relationship is in part based on #10 of AMC's best films of all time?

Not to shabby!

Mr. Small
04-28-2006, 05:45 AM
Wow, people are reading way too much into the boy Friday comment. Maybe I'm an old man or something (at 33), but I recognised the original meaning of the term as "trusted assistant," named after the character from Robinson Crusoe.

See
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man_Friday

Chiriru
04-28-2006, 09:13 AM
Uhm, you do know the name "Girl Friday" of the movie I pointed out stems from the same place?

The meaning is the same.

What is funny is that Chloe's been classified as *his* Girl Friday by fans since S1 because of their similarities to the movie. I was greatly amused (especially since we know SDK is online) that they chose that particular phraze.

Especially as this episode held nearly all the elements from the movie as well.

ms.c.
04-28-2006, 10:58 AM
The reference was to the journalism movie. His Girl Friday is actually a website for Chloe Sullivan. Clark didn't call himself a Man Friday, but "her boy friday" which was a cute play on the Girl Friday movie title.

It was one of the most clever lines of the episode.

superspider02
04-28-2006, 02:46 PM
that scene was nice. I too think chloe will make clark get back into journalism again and all that. the boy friday line was a paly on words to a different quote i believe.

ms.c.
04-28-2006, 03:49 PM
That's the thrust of the movie. Hilde, the Girl Friday, has gotten out of journalism and Cary Grant's character is trying the whole movie to bring out the journalism bug in her. Once she gets going, she remembers how much she likes it and basically it becomes a romantic comedy about how she dumps the guy who isn't right for her to go back to Cary Grant and journalism.

If you get a chance to watch it, I highly recommend it. It's a classic.

Chiriru
04-28-2006, 04:34 PM
That's the thrust of the movie. Hilde, the Girl Friday, has gotten out of journalism and Cary Grant's character is trying the whole movie to bring out the journalism bug in her. Once she gets going, she remembers how much she likes it and basically it becomes a romantic comedy about how she dumps the guy who isn't right for her to go back to Cary Grant and journalism.

Right and so instead we see Clark getting over Lana, hanging out at the Planet, saving people; and like the orginal there is also murders and a couple of shootings. And Clark got back into saving more people. It was a perfect bit of dialogue to sum up where they are going.

ms.c.
04-28-2006, 04:43 PM
I didn't really notice, but you're right this season was the first one we didn't see Clark involved in journalism. Maybe the teaser was their way of showing that Clark is going to get back on track.

Chiriru
04-28-2006, 07:13 PM
You know Ms. C - I think you are exactly right. That might be the reason for the refrence; now that Clark's being pulled back in we'll see him get back where he's supposed to be headed. Lana the Journalism Blockade is gone, and we see him in Metropolis more and more.

jaime,oburg
04-28-2006, 08:03 PM
Originally posted by F-Stop Blues
I thought he was saying boyfriend and I was like Did I miss something?

Yeah, for a split second my heart skipped a beat until my head registered what he really said. I've got Chlark on the brain! :lol:

All about Clark
04-28-2006, 09:43 PM
Originally posted by smallvillerocks45
He's her "Boy Friday", and she's his "Krypto Hag". Aww...I like it. LoL :D

Love it and her pinning the press pass. Chlark is great. He believes in her now more than ever. It was precious to see him so proud of her front page story. And she turns it around to give him the credit. Something's brewing here. Clois would be great, but I think Chlark will happen first. Either is OK by me. I'd rather have Chloe get her moment before Clois.

Chiriru
04-28-2006, 10:57 PM
It was precious to see him so proud of her front page story. And she turns it around to give him the credit. Something's brewing here.

Something is brewing. I say meh to the Clois; they are NEVER this cute. That front page non-verbal "You didn't tell me about this! I'm so proud!" "...Clarrrk." that was so obvious in their faces is really the memorable part of this episode, IMO.

mallory
04-29-2006, 12:36 AM
The scene also showed how easy it could be for Lois to become a star reporter. With Clark feeding her the inside information, she will have the greatest stories in the reporting world.

Really, anyone who has Clark in their pocket becomes world's greatest reporter.

Chiriru
04-29-2006, 10:04 AM
Really, anyone who has Clark in their pocket becomes world's greatest reporter.

Except, we're supposed to see that Lois is the best reporter on her own before Superman shows up.

We've seen Chloe climb the ladder all year long.

- She proved her way in the door
- She answered tips
- She had a story on page 83
- She did copies and fact checks
- She had collected and possibly printed a story about the AoV
- She had gained a lot of infor about L 33.1
- She had stories (assigned) about jay walking
- She got assigned to cover a major court case
- She had the right connectiosn to get the Graham story.

Clark didn't write the story and gave it to her; she was following the story from her "Legal to Leathal!" quip in the beginning of the episode. She attributed the full story to him - but she was the one who figured out the dude was the Chameleon, not him.

Additionally, we saw them take the court case and give it to some other writer; some of it had to be her. Especially as Clark didn't know about the story (hence the tap) beforehand.

mallory
04-29-2006, 11:08 AM
Originally posted by Chiriru
Except, we're supposed to see that Lois is the best reporter on her own before Superman shows up.

We've seen Chloe climb the ladder all year long.

- She proved her way in the door
- She answered tips
- She had a story on page 83
- She did copies and fact checks
- She had collected and possibly printed a story about the AoV
- She had gained a lot of infor about L 33.1
- She had stories (assigned) about jay walking
- She got assigned to cover a major court case
- She had the right connectiosn to get the Graham story.

Clark didn't write the story and gave it to her; she was following the story from her "Legal to Leathal!" quip in the beginning of the episode. She attributed the full story to him - but she was the one who figured out the dude was the Chameleon, not him.

Additionally, we saw them take the court case and give it to some other writer; some of it had to be her. Especially as Clark didn't know about the story (hence the tap) beforehand.

Chloe absolutely has worked to become a reporter. She wants it, almost as much as she wants Clark.

The point still stands, though. Clark is the world's greatest source for great stories. Any reporter he gives inside information to will become a Pulitzer Prize winner. Whether that reporter is Chloe Sullivan or Lois Lane, or whoever.

We don't know that Lois is supposed to be the best reporter, pre-Clark, in Smallville. That is generally true in the comics. But as many of you have pointed out, Smallville is its own entity, that has already broken a number of comic book canon-type laws. And remember that sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander. (Slightly mixed up metaphor, but still works.) So far, Chloe has gotten much of her start due to Clark: from her first job there (after agreeing to betray Clark)...to her first published story...to her latest about the Chameleon. No Clark, no stories. I don't remember exactly, but wasn't the story she wrote that convinced Pauline to hire her also Clark-sourced?

jaime,oburg
04-29-2006, 11:15 AM
Originally posted by mallory
Chloe absolutely has worked to become a reporter.

No Clark, no stories. I don't remember exactly, but wasn't the story she wrote that convinced Pauline to hire her also Clark-sourced?

Actually, I would have to say it was more Lana-sourced in Thrist.
Either way, when you have the inside scoop on a story, you go with it. A reporter researches and writes the article no matter where the lead comes from. Being in SV there certaintly is enough material!:lol:

Chiriru
04-29-2006, 11:23 AM
Clark is the world's greatest source for great stories. Any reporter he gives inside information to will become a Pulitzer Prize winner.

Following him journalistically - okay, I'll buy that.

But I don't think it means she can be without her own talent and drive for it though.


So far, Chloe has gotten much of her start due to Clark: from her first job there

Nope.

Her first job there was given in Obscura.

Lana got blown up. Chloe blew off her interview at the Planet for the intership position she was angling for at the job fair a week beforein Crush to check on Lana.

Clark tells her to go.

Chloe gets kidnapped and never makes it to her appointment.

Clark saves her from the shallow grave.

The DP calls and wants to interview her for a story; she says no.

She writes her own piece about being kidnapped and buried alive - which the Ledger picks up and re-prints.

Then we find out the DP calls her back; they read the reprint. They liked it. They gave her the intership position with no interview because "[her] work spoke for itself."

She won her first job. Her first column - you are right about that -- but her stories there weren't about Clark either. Neither were her CC's.


I don't remember exactly, but wasn't the story she wrote that convinced Pauline to hire her also Clark-sourced?

No and we see her researching it before she calls Clark in that Lana's gone crazy. She wrote that story all about the disease - it was actually more about Lex's curing all the girls.

Clark's a part in the stories and he often works as her partner in investigating them which makes it a little more fuzzy; but we have seen her do story after story and work her way up independant of him.

tripb1990
04-29-2006, 04:22 PM
This is probably dumb, but what's a "boy friday"?

mallory
04-30-2006, 12:48 AM
Originally posted by Chiriru
Following him journalistically - okay, I'll buy that.

But I don't think it means she can be without her own talent and drive for it though.



Nope.

Her first job there was given in Obscura.

Lana got blown up. Chloe blew off her interview at the Planet for the intership position she was angling for at the job fair a week beforein Crush to check on Lana.

Clark tells her to go.

Chloe gets kidnapped and never makes it to her appointment.

Clark saves her from the shallow grave.

The DP calls and wants to interview her for a story; she says no.

She writes her own piece about being kidnapped and buried alive - which the Ledger picks up and re-prints.

Then we find out the DP calls her back; they read the reprint. They liked it. They gave her the intership position with no interview because "[her] work spoke for itself."

She won her first job. Her first column - you are right about that -- but her stories there weren't about Clark either. Neither were her CC's.



No and we see her researching it before she calls Clark in that Lana's gone crazy. She wrote that story all about the disease - it was actually more about Lex's curing all the girls.

Clark's a part in the stories and he often works as her partner in investigating them which makes it a little more fuzzy; but we have seen her do story after story and work her way up independant of him.

My view of Chloe's reporting is a bit different. I think without Clark, Chloe is not working at the DP at all.

Take the vampire piece, that got her her latest job at the DP. Kryptonite created the vampires. Clark picked up the clue, after seeing the article in Buffy's bedroom. He saved Chloe's life from Lana...saved Lana from eternal vampire-hood...which allowed the whole sorority to be saved too.

In other words, no Clark, no story. In fact, no Chloe.

I forgot completely about Obscura. Thanks for reminding me. Again, though, Clark saved Chloe's life. Without him, she would not be there to write the story. On top of that, the huge assist he got from Lana was k-induced. I've forgotten where that DP job led. How many stories did she get published then?

Lionel got the column for her -- that was 100% due to Clark. Her current position there also is not possible without Clark: he was a key part of the story that landed her the job. And Clark heavily influenced both stories she has gotten published.

Don't get me wrong. Chloe is a great reporter. She knows how to pick up the ball and run with it. Clark is the one who hands the ball to her, though. At least so far, in her DP career.

Anyway, this is a bit of a side issue. My main point is that with Clark as a source, any reporter can become great. Right now he is helping Chloe. If TPTB want to turn EDLois into a reporter, they can easily have him feeding stories to her.

The distance from now to "EDLois star reporter" is not that great.

Old Juan
04-30-2006, 09:10 AM
It's not as simple as Clark feeding Chloe or Lois the stories. There's also this thing about writing ability. The best sources in the world are going to be pretty meaningless if you can't write a lick. Chloe's writing has not only caught the attention of two DP editors, the Ledger, but both Lex and Lionel Luthor as well. All Lois managed to do was catch the attention of a few highschoolers, which is rather meaningless if doesn't catch the eye of people that matter such as those listed above.

mallory
04-30-2006, 09:24 AM
Originally posted by Old Juan
It's not as simple as Clark feeding Chloe or Lois the stories. There's also this thing about writing ability. The best sources in the world are going to be pretty meaningless if you can't write a lick. Chloe's writing has not only caught the attention of two DP editors, the Ledger, but both Lex and Lionel Luthor as well. All Lois managed to do was catch the attention of a few highschoolers, which is rather meaningless if doesn't catch the eye of people that matter such as those listed above.

Lois has years to develop her writing ability. And do we know anything concrete about that ability now?

It would surprise me if a Chief of Staff for state senator cannot write well.

Old Juan
04-30-2006, 09:29 AM
Lois has years to develop her writing ability. And do we know anything concrete about that ability now?

It would surprise me if a Chief of Staff for state senator cannot write well.

Yeah we do. Go back and rewatch her scene with Clark in the season four finale.

mallory
04-30-2006, 09:34 AM
Originally posted by Old Juan
Yeah we do. Go back and rewatch her scene with Clark in the season four finale.

Afraid I don't have the ep. Can you tell me what happened?

Chiriru
04-30-2006, 10:00 AM
Clark picked up the clue

Chloe had already discovered that there was a story there on her own, that Lana was probably involved, and had found a cover to poke around. The example you cite have Clark and Chloe work more like investigative partners than Chloe dependant on Clark to hand feed her stories.


Without him, she would not be there to write the story.

But the story *wasn't* about who saved her; it was about the experience of being kidnapped and burried alive - which thankfully Clark *didn't do.*

Clark is always going to be tied to her narrative as her best friend and as the hero; but she's mad a lot of journalistic strides and been noticed by a lot of people (especially in the tie in comics) without Clark's help at all.


they can easily have him feeding stories to her.

And see, as Chloe's role on the show is often "Look, Clark, danger - GO HELP" I don't see Clark *as the feeder*. He comes in at the end for follow up articles sometimes, but Chloe is usually on the case long before Clark saves the day.


The best sources in the world are going to be pretty meaningless if you can't write a lick. Chloe's writing has not only caught the attention of two DP editors, the Ledger, but both Lex and Lionel Luthor as well. All Lois managed to do was catch the attention of a few highschoolers, which is rather meaningless if doesn't catch the eye of people that matter such as those listed above.

And love mail nonthe less, where as Chloe was garnering hatemail (meaning she struck a nerve) as a freshman. And multiple times since. And the ultimate love mail of sorts - taking her article, Clark's suggestion, and making her Prom Queen.

As for Lois' wiritng - she took an apptitude test -- it was radio DJ, not writer, not editor, not journalist, not speech writer -- which is what Martha did for Jonathan and she does for *herself* - nothing.