What Was He Writing!?!?!

[SOnMyChest]

the noise inside his head...... the crystal noises.....very faintly.......the same ear clutching!!! what was he writing??

[shy175223]

A kryptonian message??

[Xsmallville_obsessedX]

AHHHH! THAT'S GONNA DRIVE ME COMPLETELY CRAZY FOR AN ENTIRE WEEK!!!

[clarksmuse]

Who knows! I hope we find out next week... personally, I think Jor-el was starting to inhabit Lionel's body, and Lionel started writing Kryptonian symbols, like he did in the first episode of the season.

[TrevorH]

He spoke to him

[SOnMyChest]

WOOOOO Gotta love dishnetwork time shifting.....gonna watch this one again!

[KnightRiderX]

I think Jor-El inhabits Lionel's body periodically. And Lionel comes out of it, he only remembers bits and pieces so he writes it down...

[charmedchick]

Well, Its could that jor el was in lionels body when he was talking to clark. and when clark left the room jor el was leaving his body. and lionel probably remembered what was said and wrote it down.. ?? mabye??

[commencement_rox]

i think lionel is thansforming into a kryptonian somehow

[Polomontana]

Then he will go into a coma.

[DoN Migu-EL]

Originally posted by KnightRiderX
I think Jor-El inhabits Lionel's body periodically. And Lionel comes out of it, he only remembers bits and pieces so he writes it down...
Thats a good theory

[MBCorp]

That ending was one heck of a cliffhanger!

[TW1977]

Originally posted by charmedchick
Well, Its could that jor el was in lionels body when he was talking to clark. and when clark left the room jor el was leaving his body. and lionel probably remembered what was said and wrote it down.. ?? mabye??

Hmmm....Interesting!

[myankskent]

This was probably the best episode of the season. I think that he has memory lapses so he writes down things to remember.

[Aloof]

I wonder what's going to happen! So intriguing! :p

[AnimeJoe]

Actually if you replay the scene where Lionel is scribbling on the paper and mimmick his hand motions, you'll wind up with this message on your notepad:

"MARTHA IS HOT!"


Mystery solved.. :p

[F-Stop Blues]

He's either Jor-El or Zod. No more plain old nasty MB.

[AnimeJoe]

ZOD doesn't have that kind of power. To be physically trapped in the Phantom Zone and at the same time take over someone's body on Earth..

[Lexgirl33]

Knowing this show, we wont find out what he was writing :lol:

[Aloof]

:lol: True!

[Smallville is fun]

I think that Lionel is still being partially controlled by Jor-El. Remember when Clark would get the ringing in his ears when Jor-El wanted to summon him to the caves? This seemed pretty similar. Also, remember what was said by Jor-El as Lionel: "When this body was activated by the crystal, it became an oracle of Kryptonian knowledge, a vessel to inhabit if ever you should need me." Perhaps Jor-El is giving Lionel messages which Lionel in turn must give to Clark?

[attitudejc]

i know, that ending was pretty good, but maybe thats the code the Chloe breaks later. because everyone was saying, well, how is she gonna do that when its in his eyes? well, there ya go. maybe?...i dunno, cause i just thinking out loud.

[watcher4]

Originally posted by KnightRiderX
I think Jor-El inhabits Lionel's body periodically. And Lionel comes out of it, he only remembers bits and pieces so he writes it down...

There is a certain logic to that. However, I still believe that both inhabit Lionel's body....all the time. :)

[bluegayle]

Originally posted by KnightRiderX
I think Jor-El inhabits Lionel's body periodically. And Lionel comes out of it, he only remembers bits and pieces so he writes it down...

This was my idea also...Lionel is writing things down to figure out why he keeps having blocks of time where he doesn't remember what happened.

[ko8e]

I hate it when they end episodes like this. Its too suspenseful. I am very much intrigued. i hope they make reference to this next week. But i would say it would be kryptonion language that he was writing down

[afro_maestro]

he's going back to his kryptonian trance or as he calls it ..................................something contemplation or w.e,

He's gonna start hackin out symbols everywhere and have weird eyes.

[8SMALLFAN8]

Originally posted by KnightRiderX
I think Jor-El inhabits Lionel's body periodically. And Lionel comes out of it, he only remembers bits and pieces so he writes it down...


That is what I believe completely! I feel as though whenever Clark is near to Lionel something inside his body triggers the rise of Jor-El....then like you said, once Clark leaves, Lionel returns. Only he knows something happened...

[amberdawn]

Thats what I kind of thought at the end when Lionel seemed like he was in pain. As if something was leaving his body.

[biggkoz]

Originally posted by Lexgirl33
Knowing this show, we wont find out what he was writing :lol:

Yeah most likely. Next weeks episode looks like we wont find out.

[clarksmuse]

Originally posted by KnightRiderX
I think Jor-El inhabits Lionel's body periodically. And Lionel comes out of it, he only remembers bits and pieces so he writes it down...

Hmmmm... interesting theory. Might explain why Lionel acts the way he does around Clark at times....

[Incus]

He's probably writing a kryptonian letter to Clark. Something to fill Clark in on how much of his heritage he knows. Of course Lionel is just a "vessel" holding Jorel's spirit

[FallenStar]

AAAAAAHHHHH now i can't WAIT TILL NEXT WEEK!!!!

at least I taped this. . .

[Zungas]

Clark...I am your father!!!! maybe??? Is Lionel having a stroke?

[Maagic]

"To whoever should find this,

I have a copy of "How Stella got her Groove Back" that I rented from the Blockbuster in Smallville. Please have it returned by the 24th or I shall incur a late charge.

Thank you, and sorry about the mess.

L.L."

[LuckyKrypto]

Originally posted by Maagic
"To whoever should find this,

I have a copy of "How Stella got her Groove Back" that I rented from the Blockbuster in Smallville. Please have it returned by the 24th or I shall incur a late charge.

Thank you, and sorry about the mess.

L.L."

:lol: :lol:

I am sorry~that just totally cracked me up!!:rotfl: :rotfl:

[CallMeClark]

I believe it will be written in Kryptonian. Remember that Ask Aus. spoiler a long time ago about Chloe dekrypting a kryptonian message? Well, Wa La!

[LuckyKrypto]

Originally posted by 8SMALLFAN8
That is what I believe completely! I feel as though whenever Clark is near to Lionel something inside his body triggers the rise of Jor-El....then like you said, once Clark leaves, Lionel returns. Only he knows something happened...

That's an interesting theory~
So maybe he writes stuff down to remember what has happened while he is talking to Clark???

[Kel-El]

Oh. I'm glad I came to this thread. When I was watching the scene, I couldn't really hear what was going on. I thought Lionel was leaving a suicide note.

[clarksmuse]

Originally posted by Maagic
"To whoever should find this,

I have a copy of "How Stella got her Groove Back" that I rented from the Blockbuster in Smallville. Please have it returned by the 24th or I shall incur a late charge.

Thank you, and sorry about the mess.

L.L."

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: That tickled me! Funny!! :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

[MamaK]

Originally posted by Maagic
"To whoever should find this,

I have a copy of "How Stella got her Groove Back" that I rented from the Blockbuster in Smallville. Please have it returned by the 24th or I shall incur a late charge.

Thank you, and sorry about the mess.

L.L."

:rotfl::rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

Okay, you got me wiping away the tears of laughter! "How Stella got her Groove Back" indeed! Love it!

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

[wb-superman]

Jor-El is now the new Torture guy in Lionel's head. So I guess Lionel is doing a deal w/ him. As he write the message for his next mission to do.

[Thil_EL]

Jor-El is controlling him .the hedace came and that maybe meant jor erl is trying to take control of lional and now Lionel knows about clark and he doesnt want to forget about clarks secret so hes writing it down and when hes back to his own body he can read it?......??
:loL:

[xrayvision]

"To Kal-El:

Bring me Shelby, or Martha will be the one barking like a dog!!"


But seriously, I found this to be very interesting. I don't know what those convulsions were that he was having. I think it's a Kryptonian letter that only Clark can read, perhaps something that will help Clark trust him. Or maybe it's a letter that Jor-El made him write as he channeled through him to stop Kal-El from deserting Lionel, who is his vessel. I also had a faint idea that Fine was disguised as Lionel, but that is unlikely.

[muffinpeddler]

Or maybe he's trying to leave a desperate message while suffering a stroke or an aneurism.

The Last Will and Testament of Lionel Luthor:

I leave my stock holdings and bank accounts to my dearest Martha Clark Kent. (surrounded by hearts with semi erased "Mrs. Martha Luthor" and "Mr. Lionel Kent" underneath) To my boy Clark Kent, I leave my various collections of artifacts and other ancient relics. To both Martha and Clark I leave my residence. To my son Alexander: You get nothing you stingy little cueball! Your greed and wealth will lead you down a worse path then mine. remember son, you're a Luthor. We don't just change. And no matter what you share or do, Ms. Lang will never truly love you. Best wish- (Writing ends)

[LastFatherOfKrypton]

Originally posted by shy175223
A kryptonian message??

That is what I thought too, OR both that and someone he knows to decipher it......enter "SuperGirl Chloe".:cool:

[TW1977]

Originally posted by AnimeJoe
Actually if you replay the scene where Lionel is scribbling on the paper and mimmick his hand motions, you'll wind up with this message on your notepad:

"MARTHA IS HOT!"


Mystery solved.. :p

:lol: :lol: :lol:

[shinedown]

i think chloe might end up in possesion of the paper an decode it

[PKII]

Originally posted by SOnMyChest
WOOOOO Gotta love dishnetwork time shifting.....gonna watch this one again! lol I watch it at 8pm, 9pm and 11pm eastern. ;) The only reason I got dish network was to watch Smallville. :lol:

[CallMeClark]

I believe it will be written in Kryptonian. Remember that Ask Aus. spoiler a long time ago about Chloe dekrypting a kryptonian message? Well, Wa La!

[Silent Kal]

I was watching his hand motions, the strokes of the pen. It looked to me like big slashing pen strokes, back and forth.

Any chance he was going back to his ZOD graffiti stage???

[musictech]

He was writing words to a tune that he couldn't get out of his head all day

[Maagic]

Originally posted by CallMeClark
I believe it will be written in Kryptonian. Remember that Ask Aus. spoiler a long time ago about Chloe dekrypting a kryptonian message? Well, Wa La!

1. It's "voila"

2. The spoiler referred to a code "in Lionel's eyes", not on a piece of paper.

[LastFatherOfKrypton]

I think the code will be more complex than a ZOD graffiti!

[margroks]

The whole Jor-El AI and/or Zod thing and how Kryptonians psossess Earthlings and what the result will be is very confusing to say the least. I thought perhaps Lionel still carries around a small bit of Jor-El as a link to the FOS AI in case he needs to possess Lionel again. Why else would Lionel remember what happened in the FOS? Remember when Jonathan was acting out of character in that one ep? Wandering around while Clark searched for him? I always wondered if that was a result of Jor-El's AI being linked to him

Thing is, when Jonathan was given powers by Jor-El we never saw any cataract eyes as we've see any time such as when Dr. Snideface was taken over after interfacing with the cave AI which made no sense becuse he tried to KILL Clark. Also, Lionel had the cataract eye when he was linked to the AI and the disciples of Zod also had that same cataract eye. So what gives? What dioes it mean?

I do think Lionel is having some bad physical reaction to something, to Jor-El or Zod or some illness but what I can't make up my mind.

[TheLegendComesToLife]

The answer is right here:

Question: I'll keep trying to get you to give me some scoop on Chloe on Smallville. — E.G.

Ausiello: We can count on her to crack the code of those symbols that keep flashing in Lionel’s eyes — and the message she discovers is not a good one.


Lionel is getting messages from either Jor-El, Zod, or Milton Fine. My money is definetly on Jor-El. We haven't heard his voice in a long time. He's up to something and I think it's something to help his son. Jor-El is a good guy

[Perksy]

I personally think that Lionel is dying, Jor-El is probably thinking that there is not much use for him now and will kill him, so Lionel is just writing a good bye note?

But I'm not sure if anybody else is dying this season.

[SnowQueen]

I had the same theory but wasn't sure if everyone else felt the same. The way Lionel/Jor-El was acting, it just seemed like it was Jor-El and not Lionel. When he was willing to give up his life for Martha tho, that was definitely Lionel. When Clark saved both of them, I feel it was Jor-El at that moment. He was real proud of Clark/Kal-El. :)

[LastFatherOfKrypton]

Originally posted by margroks
The whole Jor-El AI and/or Zod thing and how Kryptonians psossess Earthlings and what the result will be is very confusing to say the least. I thought perhaps Lionel still carries around a small bit of Jor-El as a link to the FOS AI in case he needs to possess Lionel again. Why else would Lionel remember what happened in the FOS? Remember when Jonathan was acting out of character in that one ep? Wandering around while Clark searched for him? I always wondered if that was a result of Jor-El's AI being linked to him

Thing is, when Jonathan was given powers by Jor-El we never saw any cataract eyes as we've see any time such as when Dr. Snideface was taken over after interfacing with the cave AI which made no sense becuse he tried to KILL Clark. Also, Lionel had the cataract eye when he was linked to the AI and the disciples of Zod also had that same cataract eye. So what gives? What dioes it mean?

I do think Lionel is having some bad physical reaction to something, to Jor-El or Zod or some illness but what I can't make up my mind.

Well maybe this will help a little.

The bad guys lets say did not go through the proper channels to obtain the information or power required like Jonathan Kent did in asking/bargining with Jor-El AI.

The results for the bad guys were cataracs and comas!

Does that help??:confused:

[Angels4BobSeger]

I couldn't go to sleep lastnight thinking about what Lional might have been writing on that piece of paper. We get the show here in Lancaster, Ohio at eleven pm. I sure hope we know next week what Lional wrote. I would hate for this to be the cliff hanger till the fall when new episodes begin.:o

[LastFatherOfKrypton]

Originally posted by Angels4BobSeger
I couldn't go to sleep lastnight thinking about what Lional might have been writing on that piece of paper. We get the show here in Lancaster, Ohio at eleven pm. I sure hope we know next week what Lional wrote. I would hate for this to be the cliff hanger till the fall when new episodes begin.:o

It will be all right, we will know and see as Chloe will decipher the Kryptonian Code coming the next few episodes before the finale.

So you are fine as we all are!!:D :)

[Rozq]

he wrote 'SMALLVILLE RULE'

[Timester]

Originally posted by AnimeJoe
ZOD doesn't have that kind of power. To be physically trapped in the Phantom Zone and at the same time take over someone's body on Earth..

Actually, it is possible.

[LastFatherOfKrypton]

Originally posted by Rozq
he wrote 'SMALLVILLE RULE'


:confused:

[Timester]

Originally posted by margroks
The whole Jor-El AI and/or Zod thing and how Kryptonians psossess Earthlings and what the result will be is very confusing to say the least. I thought perhaps Lionel still carries around a small bit of Jor-El as a link to the FOS AI in case he needs to possess Lionel again. Why else would Lionel remember what happened in the FOS? Remember when Jonathan was acting out of character in that one ep? Wandering around while Clark searched for him? I always wondered if that was a result of Jor-El's AI being linked to him

Thing is, when Jonathan was given powers by Jor-El we never saw any cataract eyes as we've see any time such as when Dr. Snideface was taken over after interfacing with the cave AI which made no sense becuse he tried to KILL Clark. Also, Lionel had the cataract eye when he was linked to the AI and the disciples of Zod also had that same cataract eye. So what gives? What dioes it mean?

I do think Lionel is having some bad physical reaction to something, to Jor-El or Zod or some illness but what I can't make up my mind.

That's because Lionel became something more when the stone was downloaded into him, much like Dr. Walden.

Anyway, I'll say this again (people like to forget this), Lionel never was Jor-El, Jor-El only used Lionel (transformed because of the stone) to get Clark to the FOS (he said it on "Hidden").

[johnshaft]

I think that whatever Lionel wrote on that paper has to do with what Prof. Fine is currently up to. It all makes sense. Lion-el knew where to find Prof. Fine and told Chloe. How did he know? And, most importantly, why did he tell Chloe? I think that Jor-el feeds Lionel info because he knows what Fine is up to (thanks to that last battle Clark and Fine had in the FOS).

I don't think Fine is controlling Lionel because it wouldn't make any sense for him to alert Clark to his plan while he's setting things in motion.

Also, on a side note: did anyone else notice how surprised and awe-struck Lionel was when he saw Clark catch the elevator? I thought it strange seeing as how he watched (who knows how many times) the dvd of Clark superspeeding through the explosion at the warehouse. It looked, to me, like he was seeing Clark use his powers for the first time. Or maybe he was just so relieved to still be alive.

[jwoodie]

Originally posted by johnshaft
I think that whatever Lionel wrote on that paper has to do with what Prof. Fine is currently up to. It all makes sense. Lion-el knew where to find Prof. Fine and told Chloe. How did he know? And, most importantly, why did he tell Chloe? I think that Jor-el feeds Lionel info because he knows what Fine is up to (thanks to that last battle Clark and Fine had in the FOS).


I agree this is probably true, but what I don't understand is the misdirection of it all. I mean, why would Jor-El act through Lionel in such a mysterious, conniving way that casts tons of perfectly reasonable doubts on Lionel's motives and actions? Why not just turn up the volume on that Kryptonian screech machine, call Clark to the FOS and let him in on what Fine is up to? Jor-El has never been one for spelling things out, but this seems pretty round-about, even for Jor-El.

[Krypton935]

I bet he is going back to his "coma" and writing Kryptonian symbols again

[Perksy]

Originally posted by johnshaft

Also, on a side note: did anyone else notice how surprised and awe-struck Lionel was when he saw Clark catch the elevator? I thought it strange seeing as how he watched (who knows how many times) the dvd of Clark superspeeding through the explosion at the warehouse. It looked, to me, like he was seeing Clark use his powers for the first time. Or maybe he was just so relieved to still be alive.

Think of it as this, we've seen Clark using his powers many times on TV, but how would your reaction be if you saw someone actually doing something that Clark could do in real life?

Nothing can compare to seeing something so extraordinary with your own two eyes. (no matter how many times you seen the video).

[margroks]

Using Lionel to carry Clark to the FOS then, while in Lionel's body, hugging Clark and saying , "My son," counts as possession I would think.

[attitudejc]

i know, that ending was pretty good, but maybe thats the code the Chloe breaks later. because everyone was saying, well, how is she gonna do that when its in his eyes? well, there ya go. maybe?...i dunno, cause i just thinking out loud.

[Jedi Master Kal]

i thin he was writing a billion dollar check to martha kent...cuz wut if he dies, how would he help martha financially?....

[Deia]

I think Lionel's reaction to Clark's powers post-elevator was totally shock to seeing him use his powers (probably with a tad of "wow, I'm not dead" mixed in)


He knew Clark was Kryptonian, he knew he had powers, but actually seeing him use those powers? Shockariffic!

But, daaang was he all kinds of cool in that scene with Clark in his office.


Oh, and the note says

"Dear Lex,

My dear son, how dumb are you to be rebound guy for Lana Lang? Clark's gonna find out, and, seriously, you don't tug on Superman's cape.

L.L."


seriously, though, I'm betting Kryptonian symbols, but yeah, if we don't get to find out until next fall, I'll be seriously peeved.

[All about Clark]

Lionel saw Clark unharmed by fire and moving fast, but to see massive strength is bigger, he was awestruck. JG was great with that.

[The Brainiac]

Lionel wrote "San Dimas High School football rules!"

[Kal-El1138]

Maybe Lionel wrote a complaint letter to Al and Miles about bringing Pete back.

[muffinpeddler]

Originally posted by Kal-El1138
Maybe Lionel wrote a complaint letter to Al and Miles about bringing Pete back.

We can only hope!:D

[tjpw fanatic]

It's definitely Jor-El! there is no doubt in my mind! before I was like nah I don't think it is, but now I know it has to be him. The noise in his head, the writing on the paper. It all seems like Clark went through before!

[myankskent]

Lionel was writing a message to JorEl asking him to not bring back his cancer again because he doesn't want to have to shave his head and then grow his hair back.

[attitudejc]

:lol: interesting....

[MetroGirl06]

Jor-El did say he was using Loinel's body as an oracle, or a vessel to guide Clark when needed. Did he say that? It's been a long time...

[myankskent]

Originally posted by MetroGirl06
Jor-El did say he was using Loinel's body as an oracle, or a vessel to guide Clark when needed. Did he say that? It's been a long time...

Yes he did. I really believe that he is using Lionel so Clark would put his trust in Lionel. JorEl probably knows that Clark hates his guts ever since Reckoning so it would make sense for him to use Lionel as a person to give Clark advice and once Clark trusted Lionel, JorEl would reveal himself to Clark and he would accept him.

[GottaLoveHotSuperHeros]

Originally posted by MBCorp
That ending was one heck of a cliffhanger!

No kidding!!! I screamed, "What?!?!!?!?1!!!!" when that was the end.

[demongene]

Originally posted by SOnMyChest
the noise inside his head...... the crystal noises.....very faintly.......the same ear clutching!!! what was he writing??

My guess is he's having a brain anurisum and is gunna die, no one ever knows Clark's secret for too long on this show! And all he'll get down on paper before he dies is (Clark is....) and it will drive Lex nuts.

[GottaLoveHotSuperHeros]

that's a good idea demongene!

[Kalel x2x2]

Originally posted by Xsmallville_obsessedX
AHHHH! THAT'S GONNA DRIVE ME COMPLETELY CRAZY FOR AN ENTIRE WEEK!!!

same here jeez!!!

[Kalel x2x2]

What do you think is up with his headaches/pain w.e and what was he trying to jot down? Thoughts??

[watcher4]

I believe that it did have something to do with Jor-El. I really could not say exactly what. Yet, it appears to me that all roads in some way are leading to Jor-El.

[watcher4]

Originally posted by Polomontana
Then he will go into a coma.

It is not a coma, it is a "contemplative repose".;)


Originally posted by Zungas
Clark...I am your father!!!! maybe??? Is Lionel having a stroke?

Gosh! I hope not!


Originally posted by Krypton935
I bet he is going back to his "coma" and writing Kryptonian symbols again

...or as he told Clark, his "contemplative repose".


Originally posted by demongene
[B]My guess is he's having a brain anurisum and is gunna die,

If Lionel is going to die now, then why would Jonathan's ghost tell Martha and Clark later on that Lionel has to die. Has to me means that something has not happened yet. Had would mean that it had happened.

:confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:

[godsmack23]

Lionel/ Jor-el will die saving his son Clark/ Kal-el... and what he was writing had to be something Jor- el left him with before leaving his body, that way he doesn't forget

[Cookie 28]

Jorel is going to take over Lionel again because we have to have the part where Chloe figures out the symbols in Lionel;s eyes. Dr. Fine will have something to do with the ghost of Jonathan telling Clark and Martha to kill Lionel because Jorel will be in his body. It could happen. :)

[LastFatherOfKrypton]

I voted that Jor-El factor!

Simple.

[Xerox]

At first I thought Lionel was reacting to Clark telling him to leave Martha alone and he was starting to cry about it and make a big dramatic scene...;)

[LastFatherOfKrypton]

Originally posted by Xerox
At first I thought Lionel was reacting to Clark telling him to leave Martha alone and he was starting to cry about it and make a big dramatic scene...;)


:confused:

[jaime,oburg]

He's channeling his inner Kryptonian. Jor-El or not. I would like to think Jor-El has something to do with it.

[xrayvision]

I wonder if Fine has anything to do with what's happening to him. Why wouldn't Fine try to kill him after all he knows?

[LastFatherOfKrypton]

Originally posted by xrayvision
I wonder if Fine has anything to do with what's happening to him. Why wouldn't Fine try to kill him after all he knows?

Why?

Fine does not see the Lionel/Oracle as a direct threat to his plans!

[watcher4]

Yet, would Fine not consider Lionel a threat to his plans since Lionel is a "Vessel" for Jor-El?:confused:

But then again, if Jor-El is using Lionel as a "Vessel" would he not know about Brainiac's plans?:confused:

[LastFatherOfKrypton]

Originally posted by watcher4
Yet, would Fine not consider Lionel a threat to his plans since Lionel is a "Vessel" for Jor-El?:confused:

But then again, if Jor-El is using Lionel as a "Vessel" would he not know about Brainiac's plans?:confused:

Oh ohh!

You got me on that one.....considering that, but Lionel is powerless at the moment he has not exhibited any real Kryptonian powers since his run to save Clark in "Hidden"

But your logic is plausible as it relates to the spoilers for Oracle and Vessel.

[xrayvision]

Well, Lionel has known a lot about Fine and Fine seems to know what everyone is up to. Question is, does he know about Lionel's vast knowledge of all things Kryptonian? Or are the 2 working together in some sick, twisted plan? I want to see these 2 in some scenes very badly.

[watcher4]

Originally posted by xrayvision
Well, Lionel has known a lot about Fine and Fine seems to know what everyone is up to. Question is, does he know about Lionel's vast knowledge of all things Kryptonian? Or are the 2 working together in some sick, twisted plan? I want to see these 2 in some scenes very badly.

I think those scenes would be awesome!!

[xrayvision]

Yeah. I think we the viewers deserved at least 1 by now. I wanted them to show how Lionel found out about Fine's speed that he revealed to Chloe in Solitude. But then again, had they showed, they would have probably blown a surprise they're holding onto. I think Jor-El gave Lionel the speed to follow Fine and keep track of him.

[Daphne]

How can a dead alien, Jor-El, be inhabiting a human's body currently?

[MamaK]

Originally posted by Smallville is fun
I think that Lionel is still being partially controlled by Jor-El. Remember when Clark would get the ringing in his ears when Jor-El wanted to summon him to the caves? This seemed pretty similar. Also, remember what was said by Jor-El as Lionel: "When this body was activated by the crystal, it became an oracle of Kryptonian knowledge, a vessel to inhabit if ever you should need me." Perhaps Jor-El is giving Lionel messages which Lionel in turn must give to Clark?

I like this theory a lot. I don't think Lionel is completely taken over by Jor-El, just temporarily when JE must get a message across.

[watcher4]

Originally posted by Daphne
How can a dead alien, Jor-El, be inhabiting a human's body currently?

Maybe, in this incarnation of the Superman story, Jor-El is NOT dead. I know.....that is REALLY stretching it. I guess I call it trying to brainstorm.:confused:

[LastFatherOfKrypton]

Originally posted by xrayvision
Well, Lionel has known a lot about Fine and Fine seems to know what everyone is up to. Question is, does he know about Lionel's vast knowledge of all things Kryptonian? Or are the 2 working together in some sick, twisted plan? I want to see these 2 in some scenes very badly.

I don't think Fine knows about Lionel and Jor-El's affect on him otherwise Fine would not be going ahead with his plans for ZOD.

If Fine did know about Lionel, then we would see a whole different chain of events!:eek:

[aqua]

Yeah, I think Fine's main focus is Lex and Clark and he is in the dark about the whole Jor-El/Lionel thing.

[LastFatherOfKrypton]

Originally posted by aqua
Yeah, I think Fine's main focus is Lex and Clark and he is in the dark about the whole Jor-El/Lionel thing.

Yes, agreed!

btw nice avatar...what show is she from??:confused:

[aqua]

Gracias! :) She's Illyria from Angel.

[LastFatherOfKrypton]

Originally posted by aqua
Gracias! :) She's Illyria from Angel.


Ahhhhh! Si, si:p :p :p

:D :cool:

[photogirl]

I think it has something to do with Jor-EL but I have no clue what and I can't wait to find out!

[GooN]

i think it either has something to do with jor-el possessing him again, or left over effects from when he held that crystal......and it happens to him once in a while (which is how he knows so much) but they just dont show it.....has someone said that already? 8 pages of posts.... :/

[magoo]

The screaming and the grabbing of the head I imagine was Jor El leaving Lionel's body. Then the real Lionel must have written down as much as he could remember. Probably just the name 'Kal El'.

[Sweetie]

I think Lionel was possessed by Jor-El...When Lionel called Clark...Kal-el.It was defenetly Jor-El talking...Lionel was propably writing something like Clark is an alien before Jor-El could leave his body...

[ballofsteel]

I think Jor-El/lionel will end up in the phantom zone with Zod saving Clark,,,

[bap290]

Originally posted by Sweetie
I think Lionel was possessed by Jor-El...When Lionel called Clark...Kal-el.It was defenetly Jor-El talking...Lionel was propably writing something like Clark is an alien before Jor-El could leave his body...

No, or else Lionel would not have been so surprised when he saw Clark's powers.

[Sweetie]

Originally posted by bap290
No, or else Lionel would not have been so surprised when he saw Clark's powers.


Okay.Or Jor-El decided to erase Lionel's memory to keep the secret of his son safe.Lionel was writing down because he didn't want to forget about Clark...

[Daphne]

In the official description of one of the shows coming up they use this phrase, "Clark turns to Lionel (John Glover), who once again channels Jor-El." So he's "channeling" Jor-El. I think he was writing the time and day of when the seizure he started having started so he could keep track of time.

[my3cats]

He should write:

"Dear Almiles,

This is what is called a "cliffhanger" scene.

The audience is now all excited about finding out the answer to the mystery this scene has created.

They will be tuning in to the next several episodes waiting for a resolution to this storyline.

Please,Do Not just forget and never mention it again!"

[watcher4]

Originally posted by my3cats
He should write:

"Dear Almiles,

This is what is called a "cliffhanger" scene.

The audience is now all excited about finding out the answer to the mystery this scene has created.

They will be tuning in to the next several episodes waiting for a resolution to this storyline.

Please,Do Not just forget and never mention it again!"

Agreed!

[heavens_cry]

He was writing that stuff that he wrote when he was in that white room and he wrote that stuff all around before he broke out..

[Joelito]

I have my doubts, but do you think that next episode fade we get that awnsered

[attitudejc]

at least by the finale. i think that it is too far into the season to be putting useless stuff that they won't explain. they are setting every thing up for the finale......hopefully.

[xrayvision]

Maybe Jor-El got sudden knowledge of what Milton Fine's plans are & he was writing down the kryptonian message for Clark to read in order to bring him up to speed. If the 2nd last episode of S5 (either Oracle or Vessel, don't remember the order now) will have Lionel (pretty obvious by the title), then I think Clark would have to start acting by that episode the latest. I think putting it off until the last episode will be foolish.

It would be a good way to fill him in and start getting him to trust Lionel by his actions.

[watcher4]

Trust Lionel or Trust Jor-El?:confused:

[PKII]

Originally posted by SOnMyChest
the noise inside his head...... the crystal noises.....very faintly.......the same ear clutching!!! what was he writing?? He is playing Hangman with Jor El :lol:

[kryptonite_123]

i thought that it was jor-el who was speaking to clark. plus after jor-el left his body the ringing started and he wrote those stupid kryptonian signs, am i right, i think i am