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angelfire east
04-13-2006, 11:07 PM
What did you guys think of Lana's reaction to what Chloe did? Was it uncalled for? Called for? What?
hassenmorad
04-13-2006, 11:29 PM
She reacted in a reasonable way. What ingrigued me was the way she said: "I'm no one's prey." I hope the next episode expands on what she's actually up to.
Kreukie
04-13-2006, 11:36 PM
Originally posted by angelfire east
What did you guys think of Lana's reaction to what Chloe did? Was it uncalled for? Called for? What?
I don't think Chloe would had liked if Lana went nosing around in her relationship with Clark and started assuming thing be true or false.
mobiusklein
04-13-2006, 11:38 PM
Gee, Chloe can't win. If she says something, she's nosy. If she doesn't say something, she's a baaaaad friend. Yeesh.
LastingChlarker
04-14-2006, 12:04 AM
I agree. I guess with some fans Chloe just can't win. People were begging in other threads for Chloe to butt in and try to do something to help Lana. Chloe does and now people are calling Chloe nosey and blah blah blah.
Gee.
I personally thought Lana's reaction was somewhat uncalled for. A friend was looking out for her.
savingpeoplething
04-14-2006, 12:05 AM
Chloe's just looking out for her friend...sometimes, people don't like it, but you do it anyway if you care about them.
Lana's a punk and doesn't deserve Chloe's loyalty.
There, I said it :)
And, how did she just waltz into the DP like she owned the place? Don't they have security?
mobiusklein
04-14-2006, 12:14 AM
Because I'm betting that if Chloe hadn't said something, Lana would scream "secrets and lies, secrets and lies" later. Then Chloe should slap her and said, "I WARNED YOU! GO DIE!"
savingpeoplething
04-14-2006, 12:15 AM
If only it would happen like that :)
Kryptonian Snake
04-14-2006, 12:30 AM
Chloe was right to say something, but I understand Lana's reaction, if only because it's typical for her. I guess I'd say Lana was overly defensive and shouldn't have been too surprised that Chloe suspected something romantic might be going on with Lex. Also, her comment about Chloe spreading rumors was off-base since Chloe hadn't talked with anyone but Lex about the issue.
Chloe was pretty much in a lose-lose situation with Lana on this issue. If she had talked to Lana directly, the issue would have been dismissed and Lana probably would have gotten defensive if Chloe remained skeptical and pushed the issue. Chloe goes to Lex instead of Lana, and Lana still gets upset. I think she'd be wise to wash her hands of the whole thing since Lana now knows her opinion of Lex.
constancelight
04-14-2006, 01:22 AM
Originally posted by savingpeoplething
And, how did she just waltz into the DP like she owned the place? Don't they have security?
Well anyone can waltz into the DP. Clark does it all the time. Lois has done it, Martha has done it. So I think anyone associated with Chloe has free reign of the DP basement.
savingpeoplething
04-14-2006, 01:50 AM
Originally posted by constancelight
Well anyone can waltz into the DP. Clark does it all the time. Lois has done it, Martha has done it. So I think anyone associated with Chloe has free reign of the DP basement.
Well, I always feel like Clark has "his ways" of getting into the DP.
Lois seems to always come in with Chloe.
The only time I've seen Martha there was in "Vengeance" and it seemed like Chloe wasn't expecting her, so I don't know what to think about that.
I worked at a NBC TV affiliate (and this is local, as a reminder) and we wore security badges AND had to pass a guard before we even made it into the newsroom. The only time someone we knew could come in is if we knew they were coming and the guard would show them in or we would get paged.
I don't know if Chloe was expecting Lana to drop by or not.
I just find it absolutely SILLY how just anybody seems to be able to get access to the DP. Wouldn't they be concerned about people stealing ideas and stories? I know most news organizations are very big on tight security.
Of course, this is Smallville and even billionaire and future criminal mastermind, Lex Luthor's place is game for all those want to enter. :)
auxvis
04-14-2006, 02:23 AM
Lana's reaction was irrational...However, her entire course of action (I.E. kissing Lex and/or pursuing one with him) is crazy...
I guess now my new hope is she is just using him for info on the spaceship...
But yeah, her reaction was uncalled for...but people don't like to hear the truth
savingpeoplething
04-14-2006, 02:29 AM
No, people don't like to hear the truth sometimes...we are all stubborn in some ways :)
I don't know how I feel about the theory that Lana is using Lex...I can understand where people are coming from, but then again, why wouldn't Lana just go to Lex because she's lonely and has things in common with him? This isn't the first time she has thrown her heart out there so quickly...
If Lana is using Lex for info about the spaceship, she's more clever than I think her to be (and right now, I don't think her to be clever at all).
Kreukie
04-14-2006, 02:41 AM
Originally posted by mobiusklein
Gee, Chloe can't win. If she says something, she's nosy. If she doesn't say something, she's a baaaaad friend. Yeesh.
I know that was directed to me.
The question was:
What did you guys think of Lana's reaction to what Chloe did?
My reply:
I don't think Chloe would had liked if Lana went nosing around in her relationship with Clark and started assuming thing be true or false.
People in general don't like when people nose around in their things and assume the worst of them. If you personally like it, then that's fine.
If Chloe really wants to drive it home with what she was trying to say, she should had pulled out files, pictures and do what she usually does with Clark when proving a story.
Or at least tell Lana everything she knows about Lex, rather than just say he's "bad news" and accuse Lana of things she has yet to do.
I dont like how lana acts shes really annoying her face is just bleh. KK over acts
Angel2
04-14-2006, 06:38 AM
Lana's just a natural over reactor.
MBCorp
04-14-2006, 06:41 AM
Originally posted by Kreukie
I know that was directed to me.
The question was:
What did you guys think of Lana's reaction to what Chloe did?
My reply:
I don't think Chloe would had liked if Lana went nosing around in her relationship with Clark and started assuming thing be true or false.
People in general don't like when people nose around in their things and assume the worst of them. If you personally like it, then that's fine.
If Chloe really wants to drive it home with what she was trying to say, she should had pulled out files, pictures and do what she usually does with Clark when proving a story.
Or at least tell Lana everything she knows about Lex, rather than just say he's "bad news" and accuse Lana of things she has yet to do.
I can't believe I'm saying this but I actually agree with this. I would have been annoyed too if I was Lana. And instead of making vague comments about Lex being a "predator" Chloe should have clued Lana in to why Lex is such a bad guy.
HalJordan4184
04-14-2006, 06:45 AM
The funny thing is, Lana has been around long enough, she knows why Lex is a bad guy. Heck, he's even manhandled her over that stone, and blown up at her before. She knows some of the other things he's done thanks to Clark and Chloe, and yet, after not trusting him like two months ago, she's ready to hop into his bed, and love him.
mobiusklein
04-14-2006, 07:18 AM
Exactly, HalJordan4184. Also Lana knows MORE about Lex than Chloe in some respects like the fact he cleaned up a MURDER and says she owes him. If she doesn't get a clue after that, no amount of whatever's going to help her.
ClLaLeChFAN01
04-14-2006, 08:15 AM
Perhaps Lana is desperate for attention and will get it from anyone, even someone that she knows who has done shady things in the past. She always needs a guy at her side, perhaps because since she lost her parents at such an early age. She really didnt get the bonding time with them like she wanted. Also, he Aunt Neil moved away while she was in high school. granted she could have moved with her and her new Uncle and be a family that way.
And like many people said before, she wants the attention and perahps this is the reason why.
photogirl
04-14-2006, 10:41 AM
I think that Chloe shouldn't even try now. She tried to help Lana out. She told her to be careful. She warned Lex. They don't want her help, she should just leave them to mess up on their own. She's a really good friend for doing what she's doing!
LastFatherOfKrypton
04-14-2006, 10:50 AM
Originally posted by Ares
I dont like how lana acts shes really annoying her face is just bleh. KK over acts
Maybe it is those annoying "head bobs" Lana gives when emphasising a point or when she is really mad under stress....
"what do mean? I need the truth, not protection or precuations!!!" or
"just don't freak out"!
Lana bobs her head when she gets goin' and mad!:mad: :eek:
margroks
04-14-2006, 11:41 AM
Yes this is quite typical of Lana but why so many people find her character so completely unlikeable. SHe knows how nasty Lex is having accepted both his and his father's help in covering up a murder, knows he was trying to get at that stone, knows he lied to her about a lot of things yet she runs to him in a heartbeat when Clark broke up with her. I think Lana knows perfectly well how she lies and manipulates people but figures she can always get away with saying or doing anything to anyone because she expects everyone to worship her.
As my husband said last night, "Why is she even friends with Lana?" No good reason was all I could say. Chloe has done so many things for Lana, twice given her a place to live, tried to be a good friend despite her tantrums and yet, this is the thanks she gets for it. Lana was lying through her teeth about her relationship with Lex and knows he's been her back-up BF for as long as she's been dating Clark.
And remember, Lana is always the first to berate someone, Clark, Chloe or Lex if she doesn't get her way yet she whines about it if anyone calls her on her crap (here I'm thinkig of her snooping in Chloe's personal computer files after Chloe allowed her to use her computer after which she immediately ran to Clark and complained about it as if it were not at all her fault (Accidentally looked at her files is not at all what happened).
That scene was just more proof of her lying, selfish behavior. Lana is completely lacking in real gratitude for Clark and Chloe either one who've saved her butt many times. Chloe should never have tried to protect Clark from Lana's nasty behavior now or previously and she should let Lana dig herself in as deep as she can and not care less. Lana isn't worth the grief.
And yes, Chloe spoke up to help two friends and Lana was a witch about it. Her remarks were totally uncalled for, especially since Chloe was indeed totally right about Lana and Lex.
LastFatherOfKrypton
04-14-2006, 12:14 PM
Originally posted by margroks
Yes this is quite typical of Lana but why so many people find her character so completely unlikeable. SHe knows how nasty Lex is having accepted both his and his father's help in covering up a murder, knows he was trying to get at that stone, knows he lied to her about a lot of things yet she runs to him in a heartbeat when Clark broke up with her. I think Lana knows perfectly well how she lies and manipulates people but figures she can always get away with saying or doing anything to anyone because she expects everyone to worship her.
As my husband said last night, "Why is she even friends with Lana?" No good reason was all I could say. Chloe has done so many things for Lana, twice given her a place to live, tried to be a good friend despite her tantrums and yet, this is the thanks she gets for it. Lana was lying through her teeth about her relationship with Lex and knows he's been her back-up BF for as long as she's been dating Clark.
And remember, Lana is always the first to berate someone, Clark, Chloe or Lex if she doesn't get her way yet she whines about it if anyone calls her on her crap (here I'm thinkig of her snooping in Chloe's personal computer files after Chloe allowed her to use her computer after which she immediately ran to Clark and complained about it as if it were not at all her fault (Accidentally looked at her files is not at all what happened).
That scene was just more proof of her lying, selfish behavior. Lana is completely lacking in real gratitude for Clark and Chloe either one who've saved her butt many times. Chloe should never have tried to protect Clark from Lana's nasty behavior now or previously and she should let Lana dig herself in as deep as she can and not care less. Lana isn't worth the grief.
And yes, Chloe spoke up to help two friends and Lana was a witch about it. Her remarks were totally uncalled for, especially since Chloe was indeed totally right about Lana and Lex.
Excellent recap of Lana vs. Chloe!
What even may get you ire up even more is the episode 'Fever' and Chloe's actions and her lover letter.
We find that in actuality Lana hid the truth about Chloe's feelings from Clark when he asked her "what's wrong with Chloe?" Lana deflected and focused her own feelings instead of Chloe's thus Clark never knew the truth about Chloe's Love Letter which Lana saw and read from the Torch's waste basket.
In 'Obscura' Clark declares and confesses his neglect of Chloe and tells Lana how much Chloe means to him even if something happened to her.....Lana quickly shuts Clark down saying..."don't talk about things like that!!" But Clark goes on to recount to Lana of his first kiss from Chloe and that time with her back in 8th grade.
So all in all, yes Lana can be for her own ends just as Lex can be for his own gains.
SnarkMasterJ
04-14-2006, 12:41 PM
Great post, magroks. That summed up pretty much all my feelings on Lana over the past five seasons.
I've heard a lot of the "if Chloe had gone to Lana first" side of things, but really...I'm not convinced. It was a lose-lose situation.
Chloe comes to Lana -- Lana gets defensive and tells Chloe she can handle herself.
Chloe goes to Lex -- Lana finds out 'cause Lex tattled on Chloe, Lana comes to see her, gets defensive, and tells her she can handle herself.
Either way, Chloe would end up looking like the nosy friend who needs to butt out and mind her own business, and that's completely unfair, since, I think Chloe had every right to suspect what she did, seeing as how she WALKED IN ON THEM. The girl has eyes, I mean come on.
Maybe Chloe could've used different wording, but who said confrontation was easy? Especially with Lana, she-who-shall-never-be-wrong-or-corrected. Lana has never, to my recollection, taken criticism from anyone without going all Angry!Squirrel and being catty and judgmental. It's kind of sad.
dizzy
04-14-2006, 12:42 PM
Lana has been so blind to Lex, Chloe knows the real Lex and was tring to protect her, but you know what Lana deserves whatever comes her way from now on, cause she getting tobe a real pain in the a$$. (Not that she wasn't a whiny self-centered brat before) It always about her. Chloe needs to kick her a$$ (again)!
Void. The whole I wanted to talk to the only people who love me crap was all about Clark, she was selfish, she damn near got him and Lex killed but they just blow it off.
I'm so sick of her getting away with crap cause... why? There is no reason!!!
Nightvision
04-14-2006, 12:47 PM
Personally, I hate it when people are nosy in my relations with people and expect the worse of me, but to be honest, Lana did indeed overreact. And the rest... Well, margroks pretty much stole the words out of my mouth. ^^ Anyhoo, yeah. I think that Lana should respect Chloe more. After all, she was just looking out for her well-being.
myankskent
04-14-2006, 12:50 PM
Originally posted by Nightvision
Personally, I hate it when people are nosy in my relations with people and expect the worse of me, but to be honest, Lana did indeed overreact. And the rest... Well, margroks pretty much stole the words out of my mouth. ^^ Anyhoo, yeah. I think that Lana should respect Chloe more. After all, she was just looking out for her well-being.
I also wonder if Lana feels that Chloe might be part of the reason why Clark and her broke up. Lana must know that Chloe spends a lot of time with Clark this year. Maybe she thinks that there is something going on between Chloe and Clark. Lana has thought far dumber things throughout the series.
Nightvision
04-14-2006, 12:57 PM
Originally posted by myankskent
I also wonder if Lana feels that Chloe might be part of the reason why Clark and her broke up. Lana must know that Chloe spends a lot of time with Clark this year. Maybe she thinks that there is something going on between Chloe and Clark. Lana has thought far dumber things throughout the series.
Actually yeah, I'm wondering that also. He did say after all "My feelings for you have changed," so maybe she naturally thinks that he has feelings for another. Chloe in this case since I'm pretty sure Lana is aware that they are spending quite a lot of time together.
LastFatherOfKrypton
04-14-2006, 12:58 PM
Originally posted by myankskent
I also wonder if Lana feels that Chloe might be part of the reason why Clark and her broke up. Lana must know that Chloe spends a lot of time with Clark this year. Maybe she thinks that there is something going on between Chloe and Clark. Lana has thought far dumber things throughout the series.
Lana did indicate that in episode 'Void' when she and Halley walk in the dorm room on Chloe and Clark alone together.
Chloe: Sorry!
Lana: You guys are friends. It was "bound" to happen sometime, right?
From Lana's perspective, yes she could interpret Chloe's involvements with Clark particularly when she is vulnerable and Chloe will not take advantage of Lana's vulnerability even when she is being shall we say...." A Snot"???
sari_chem
04-14-2006, 01:05 PM
I think neither girl was completely right, nor completely wrong.
Let's start with Chloe. Yes, she did what she did with good intentions, and she was definitely looking out for her friend. But she should have spoken to lana first. She shouldn't have just barged into Lex's mansion (again...where's the security?) and started making accusations. If a friend of mine did this to another friend without telling me, then I would be upset, too. I would want a friend to speak to me directly, and not forbid someone from spending time with me.
As for Lana, yeah, she has the right to be upset. Chloe did, after all, go behind her back and verbally attack one of lana's closest friends. Having said that, however, lana was a little too aggressive when she confronted Chloe. Lana could have apporached her nicely. Chloe, was, after all, looking out for her, proving that she is a caring and loyal friend.
So neither one is absolutely right in this case. But it's a tough situation.
The only thing that Chloe said to Lana that I didn't like was "If you're trying to hurt Clark..." If a friend had said that to me, I would get upset. I would never intentionally try to hurt anyone, and if a friend insinuated that about me, I would wonder if they knew me at all.
mobiusklein
04-14-2006, 01:07 PM
The problem is that Chloe knows Lana well enough to know Lana DOES play games with boys she likes. Come on, she's seen how Lana's been with Jason and Whitney, she's probably tired of Lana's part in the hamster wheel. I think even Clark subconsciously knows that Lana is a game player. And the way Lana rebounds . . .
myankskent
04-14-2006, 01:16 PM
Originally posted by mobiusklein
The problem is that Chloe knows Lana well enough to know Lana DOES play games with boys she likes. Come on, she's seen how Lana's been with Jason and Whitney, she's probably tired of Lana's part in the hamster wheel. I think even Clark subconsciously knows that Lana is a game player. And the way Lana rebounds . . .
Actually, this would be the first time that Lana has rebounded with any guy. She hooked up with Clark well after she broke up with Whitney in season 2. Lana didn't have any other significant boyfriends until season 4 with Jason. Again, she broke it off with Jason after they had been fighting for a while and then several episodes later, during the finale, she told Clark that she loved him. Then at the start of season 5, they decided to start dating. As for playing games, I don't see that either. If anything, Clark was the one playing games with Lana because he gave her all sorts of mixed signals throughout the series because he just couldn't tell her the secret.
attitudejc
04-14-2006, 01:47 PM
Originally posted by sari_chem
I think neither girl was completely right, nor completely wrong.
Let's start with Chloe. Yes, she did what she did with good intentions, and she was definitely looking out for her friend. But she should have spoken to lana first. She shouldn't have just barged into Lex's mansion (again...where's the security?) and started making accusations. If a friend of mine did this to another friend without telling me, then I would be upset, too. I would want a friend to speak to me directly, and not forbid someone from spending time with me.
As for Lana, yeah, she has the right to be upset. Chloe did, after all, go behind her back and verbally attack one of lana's closest friends. Having said that, however, lana was a little too aggressive when she confronted Chloe. Lana could have apporached her nicely. Chloe, was, after all, looking out for her, proving that she is a caring and loyal friend.
So neither one is absolutely right in this case. But it's a tough situation.
The only thing that Chloe said to Lana that I didn't like was "If you're trying to hurt Clark..." If a friend had said that to me, I would get upset. I would never intentionally try to hurt anyone, and if a friend insinuated that about me, I would wonder if they knew me at all.
i agree with that, but you forgot about lana getting mad at chloe for something that she said she wasn't doing, and then did it when she got back to smallville. thats the only reason i was upset. but what you said, is right.
ms.c.
04-18-2006, 10:41 AM
The exchange just highlighted what a sham friendship Chloe and Lana have. Lana immediately accuses Chloe of spreading rumors when all Chloe was doing was looking out for Lana.
It's obvious to me that those two girls are not close. They have nothing in common and Lana really hasn't extended herself to Chloe in a long time (like since Season 1.) Chloe is the one always there for Lana which I don't understand why she does it. Lana hasn't seemed to appreciate it in many years.
I think Chloe said Lana must be lashing out b/c Chloe knows how Lana is. Lana is very immature. She is volatile and fickle. She starts things (art, astronomy, cheerleading, the Talon, her boyfriends) and drops them abruptly. She just goes from one thing to another and Lana just went thru a drug like problem. Chloe probably worries that Lana is too emotional to be thinking correctly. Heck, even Mrs. Kent suggested that Lana might try to get back at Clark bc of how they broke up.
Everyone just expects Lana to be emotional - maybe it suppose to be because of her parents' traumatic death but for whatever reason, Lana has always been very emotional and self-involved. I don't think it was a slam by Chloe. I think it was an acknowledgement by the writers that Lana is the type of person to do immature and overly dramatic things. Chloe use to be like that, too, but she has grown up while Lana still has a lot of growing up to do. She kissed Lex when she knows he has feelings for her. Unless she is certain about returning them, it was pretty selfish of her to do that, imo.
LastFatherOfKrypton
04-18-2006, 10:50 AM
Originally posted by ms.c.
The exchange just highlighted what a sham friendship Chloe and Lana have. Lana immediately accuses Chloe of spreading rumors when all Chloe was doing was looking out for Lana.
It's obvious to me that those two girls are not close. They have nothing in common and Lana really hasn't extended herself to Chloe in a long time (like since Season 1.) Chloe is the one always there for Lana which I don't understand why she does it. Lana hasn't seemed to appreciate it in many years.
I think Chloe said Lana must be lashing out b/c Chloe knows how Lana is. Lana is very immature. She is volatile and fickle. She starts things (art, astronomy, cheerleading, the Talon, her boyfriends) and drops them abruptly. She just goes from one thing to another and Lana just went thru a drug like problem. Chloe probably worries that Lana is too emotional to be thinking correctly. Heck, even Mrs. Kent suggested that Lana might try to get back at Clark bc of how they broke up.
Everyone just expects Lana to be emotional - maybe it suppose to be because of her parents' traumatic death but for whatever reason, Lana has always been very emotional and self-involved. I don't think it was a slam by Chloe. I think it was an acknowledgement by the writers that Lana is the type of person to do immature and overly dramatic things. Chloe use to be like that, too, but she has grown up while Lana still has a lot of growing up to do. She kissed Lex when she knows he has feelings for her. Unless she is certain about returning them, it was pretty selfish of her to do that, imo.
Precisely my thoughts and then some.....as there were indication for example in Seasons 3 Truth when Lana told Chloe she did not trust her at all. Finding Chloe walking away nearly in tears!
I thought then their so called sister/friendship was bogus and it I believe is going to get worse this season on.
heavens_cry
04-18-2006, 11:15 AM
iit was uncalled for.
angelfire east
04-18-2006, 01:41 PM
Originally posted by ms.c.
The exchange just highlighted what a sham friendship Chloe and Lana have. Lana immediately accuses Chloe of spreading rumors when all Chloe was doing was looking out for Lana.
It's obvious to me that those two girls are not close. They have nothing in common and Lana really hasn't extended herself to Chloe in a long time (like since Season 1.) Chloe is the one always there for Lana which I don't understand why she does it. Lana hasn't seemed to appreciate it in many years.
I think Chloe said Lana must be lashing out b/c Chloe knows how Lana is. Lana is very immature. She is volatile and fickle. She starts things (art, astronomy, cheerleading, the Talon, her boyfriends) and drops them abruptly. She just goes from one thing to another and Lana just went thru a drug like problem. Chloe probably worries that Lana is too emotional to be thinking correctly. Heck, even Mrs. Kent suggested that Lana might try to get back at Clark bc of how they broke up.
Everyone just expects Lana to be emotional - maybe it suppose to be because of her parents' traumatic death but for whatever reason, Lana has always been very emotional and self-involved. I don't think it was a slam by Chloe. I think it was an acknowledgement by the writers that Lana is the type of person to do immature and overly dramatic things. Chloe use to be like that, too, but she has grown up while Lana still has a lot of growing up to do. She kissed Lex when she knows he has feelings for her. Unless she is certain about returning them, it was pretty selfish of her to do that, imo.
Great post:D
All about Clark
04-18-2006, 02:12 PM
Originally posted by LastFatherOfKrypton
Precisely my thoughts and then some.....as there were indication for example in Seasons 3 Truth when Lana told Chloe she did not trust her at all. Finding Chloe walking away nearly in tears!
I thought then their so called sister/friendship was bogus and it I believe is going to get worse this season on.
Based on this Lana/Chloe friendship being what it is (Chloe being more of a friend than Lana), I almost believe Lana used Chloe to stay in Smallville. Chloe has spent so much time helping and reaching out to Lana, but it is never reciprocated. As I said before, Lana is not a very good friend to anyone.
myankskent
04-18-2006, 02:38 PM
Originally posted by All about Clark
Based on this Lana/Chloe friendship being what it is (Chloe being more of a friend than Lana), I almost believe Lana used Chloe to stay in Smallville. Chloe has spent so much time helping and reaching out to Lana, but it is never reciprocated. As I said before, Lana is not a very good friend to anyone.
How is Chloe a good friend to Lana? Because she knows Clark's secret, she can protect people more so than if she didn't know, but what has Chloe done for Lana that Lana hasn't done for her? People point to Lana leaving smallville in season 4 to go to paris and abandoning her friends, but I don't see that at all. She did it for herself, yes, but in no way did she turn her back on everyone. Actually, it was Clark who turned her back on her by not driving her to the airport. And as for Chloe, the second Lana came back to Smallville she went straight to Chloe's grave once she found out she was dead. So again, I don't see how Lana is not a good friend, she just has a life outside of her friends whereas a girl like Chloe always has to be involved with everyone. Chloe would never leave because she can't be alone for periods of time.
attitudejc
04-18-2006, 02:42 PM
i always thought they were pretty good friends to each other.
myankskent
04-18-2006, 03:05 PM
Originally posted by attitudejc
i always thought they were pretty good friends to each other.
Yeah, Lana's character is a moron, mostly because the writers have opted to not let her character know the secret, but I don't think you can say that one person is a better friend than the other. Bottom line is that when both people's lives are on the line, they both would try to save the other or at least get them help.
LastFatherOfKrypton
04-18-2006, 03:24 PM
Okay.....back to Lana's reaction!
I'm sure everyone noticed Lana's "rumor mill" comment in her retort of Chloe's "seemingly" meddling in the Lexana affair!
That comment struck me as not only out of place and uncalled for, but very suspicious.
I still wonder what words Lex had said to Lana in "tattel-tailing" on Chloe!
Lex: Lana, hi!! I just had an unnerving visit from Chloe and from what I could tell she was pretty upset boarding on the edge of hostility to threaten me.
Lana: What!? What are you saying Lex??
Lex: Finding you and me together alone that dorm room, she clearly thinks there is something going on between us, when we both know there isn't. I'm saying, talk some sense to her before she starts gossiping!
Lana: Oh my god!! (an angry look in her expression) I will Lex! I'll take of it! Thanks. I'll talk to you later, okay?? Bye!
Lex: Goodbye Lana and thanks! (an even wider diabolical smile pervades his lips as he hangs up)
Okay you get the picture here!!:mad:
All about Clark
04-18-2006, 03:38 PM
Originally posted by myankskent
How is Chloe a good friend to Lana? Because she knows Clark's secret, she can protect people more so than if she didn't know, but what has Chloe done for Lana that Lana hasn't done for her? People point to Lana leaving smallville in season 4 to go to paris and abandoning her friends, but I don't see that at all. She did it for herself, yes, but in no way did she turn her back on everyone. Actually, it was Clark who turned her back on her by not driving her to the airport. And as for Chloe, the second Lana came back to Smallville she went straight to Chloe's grave once she found out she was dead. So again, I don't see how Lana is not a good friend, she just has a life outside of her friends whereas a girl like Chloe always has to be involved with everyone. Chloe would never leave because she can't be alone for periods of time.
Chloe has helped Lana with her dad, giving her a place to live, called her sister, helped in investigating Jason's family, listened to her Clark problems, listened to her about Paris, advised her on sex issues, and has just been there for her always.
Lana on the other hand, never asks her about her problems, doesn't advise her or show any interest in her life.
I think I've made my case.
myankskent
04-18-2006, 03:42 PM
Originally posted by All about Clark
Chloe has helped Lana with her dad, giving her a place to live, called her sister, helped in investigating Jason's family, listened to her Clark problems, listened to her about Paris, advised her on sex issues, and has just been there for her always.
Lana on the other hand, never asks her about her problems, doesn't advise her or show any interest in her life.
I think I've made my case.
What life? What life does Chloe even have? She is a search engine for everyone and her personal life has never been touched on this show. She was in trouble in Tomb and Lana tried to help her by going to Lex. But outside of that, name me some storylines that Chloe has been involved in that has put her in a dangerous spot. The Lionel storyline is a storyline that Chloe couldn't go to Lana about because it would put Chloe in a bad spot with trying to investigate Clark.
All about Clark
04-18-2006, 03:56 PM
To point is, the relationship is clearly one-sided, Lana never inquires to Chloe about her life.
Chloe has no personal life, yet we had eppy Tomb where Clark advised Chloe to visit her mom, how come Lana hasn't talked with her about this ages ago, she lives with her, Clark doesn't.
myankskent
04-18-2006, 04:06 PM
Originally posted by All about Clark
To point is, the relationship is clearly one-sided, Lana never inquires to Chloe about her life.
Chloe has no personal life, yet we had eppy Tomb where Clark advised Chloe to visit her mom, how come Lana hasn't talked with her about this ages ago, she lives with her, Clark doesn't.
Because the storyline with her mom has never been fleshed out in the past when Lana was living with Chloe. Heck, it isn't even being fleshed out now. I bet you that is the last we see of Chloe's mom. My point is I don't think you can quantify how much one character is a friend to the other based on the fact that Chloe's life was never a priority of the writers over the years. Now if Chloe had a problem and went to Lana for help and Lana ignored her, then you can say that Lana isn't being a good friend. But I think we have to assume that Chloe has had problems and has gone to people for help in the past, although it was never seen onscreen.
LastFatherOfKrypton
04-18-2006, 04:24 PM
Originally posted by All about Clark
Based on this Lana/Chloe friendship being what it is (Chloe being more of a friend than Lana), I almost believe Lana used Chloe to stay in Smallville. Chloe has spent so much time helping and reaching out to Lana, but it is never reciprocated. As I said before, Lana is not a very good friend to anyone.
Yes it appears so and only if she is searching for something or some meaning to her life...as the writers seem to have been struggling with since Season 3
Paris; Lana/Isobel; Mulana; Draculana; Junkie Lana etc...
All about Clark
04-18-2006, 04:30 PM
Originally posted by myankskent
Because the storyline with her mom has never been fleshed out in the past when Lana was living with Chloe. Heck, it isn't even being fleshed out now. I bet you that is the last we see of Chloe's mom. My point is I don't think you can quantify how much one character is a friend to the other based on the fact that Chloe's life was never a priority of the writers over the years. Now if Chloe had a problem and went to Lana for help and Lana ignored her, then you can say that Lana isn't being a good friend. But I think we have to assume that Chloe has had problems and has gone to people for help in the past, although it was never seen onscreen.
This is not true. In Rosetta, their school project was the family tree, and Chloe/Pete/Clark/Lana were all discussing how they should proceed. Chloe's comment about is that part of her family tree cut off. Lana has known about Chloe's issues and doesn't show enough friendship to help her with this big issue of Chloe's. All Clark did was show concern, and Chloe talked, why couldn't that be Lana who lives with her.
myankskent
04-18-2006, 04:40 PM
Originally posted by All about Clark
This is not true. In Rosetta, their school project was the family tree, and Chloe/Pete/Clark/Lana were all discussing how they should proceed. Chloe's comment about is that part of her family tree cut off. Lana has known about Chloe's issues and doesn't show enough friendship to help her with this big issue of Chloe's. All Clark did was show concern, and Chloe talked, why couldn't that be Lana who lives with her.
What was Lana supposed to do in Rosetta, press Chloe on the subject? She knows how Chloe feels about her mother but there's nothing to talk about when it comes to Chloe's mother. Part of what being a good friend is not pushing the other person if they know that they are pushing them on a sore subject. So that combined with the writers inability to make the Chloe/mother storyline a major focus of the show is why I can't fault Lana nor consider her less of a friend to Chloe than Chloe is to her.
To add to this, if Chloe made attempts to see her mother and there were steps that she took to gain a relationship with her, then there would be more to talk about in regards to the subject. But if Chloe doesn't want to be bothered in going to see her mother then I don't see how anyone can help her. Plus, I don't even think it was ever revealed that Chloe's mother was in a mental institution until season 4 when she told Clark. So again, if Chloe doesn't share her life with others, then no one can help her.
Watching Smallville
04-18-2006, 04:50 PM
Chloe and Lana's friendship has always been an odd one, mainly because they are both interested in Clark. Now it's even more strange and strained because Chloe knows Clark's secret and Lana doesn't, and yet Lana is still Clark's love interest and Chloe isn't. It creates a tension in the friendship that we'd probably never see in real life because in real life these two would probably never be friends. I don't think the friendship is one-sided. I think it's no-sided.
myankskent
04-18-2006, 04:53 PM
Originally posted by Watching Smallville
Chloe and Lana's friendship has always been an odd one, mainly because they are both interested in Clark. Now it's even more strange and strained because Chloe knows Clark's secret and Lana doesn't, and yet Lana is still Clark's love interest and Chloe isn't. It creates a tension in the friendship that we'd probably never see in real life because in real life these two would probably never be friends. I don't think the friendship is one-sided. I think it's no-sided.
That is an excellent way to look at it. Looking at season 5, when both Lana and Chloe would drop anybody and everything to be with Clark or help out Clark, it's hard to say that they really have a close friendship.
All about Clark
04-18-2006, 05:02 PM
Originally posted by Watching Smallville
Chloe and Lana's friendship has always been an odd one, mainly because they are both interested in Clark. Now it's even more strange and strained because Chloe knows Clark's secret and Lana doesn't, and yet Lana is still Clark's love interest and Chloe isn't. It creates a tension in the friendship that we'd probably never see in real life because in real life these two would probably never be friends. I don't think the friendship is one-sided. I think it's no-sided.
I see your point, but based on my list on the previous page I believe Chloe has to tried to reach out to Lana. Chloe has wanted to be her friend despite the Clark issue.
I just think that Chloe would have talked with Lana about her mom if Lana wasn't so self-involved and only thinking about herself.
LastFatherOfKrypton
04-18-2006, 05:04 PM
Originally posted by Watching Smallville
Chloe and Lana's friendship has always been an odd one, mainly because they are both interested in Clark. Now it's even more strange and strained because Chloe knows Clark's secret and Lana doesn't, and yet Lana is still Clark's love interest and Chloe isn't. It creates a tension in the friendship that we'd probably never see in real life because in real life these two would probably never be friends. I don't think the friendship is one-sided. I think it's no-sided.
How true!
The only thing in common with Chloe and Lana is Clark and I suspect Lana will distance herself from Chloe because she suspects that those two have a bond.....something more than than mere friendship in her eyes.
Lessthanthre3
04-18-2006, 05:07 PM
I'm thinking the writers should step it up a notch and actually have Chloe do something with one of her 'friends' that doesn't involve researching.
One of the main reasons, I believe, that it's so difficult to judge Lana's reaction (which, in my opinion, was a bit over the top) to Chloe's talking to Lex is because no one is really sure of how their relationship is.
For apparent roomates and best friends, we never see them do anything outside of Clark (no pun intended) or occasionally running into each other in their room.
I understand that some things are implied, but seriously?
I have trouble believing that the only thing Chloe ever does is hang out at the Daily Planet and not with any friends once in a while.
Hm.
So I might have gotten off topic, but ah well.
Sorry.
ms.c.
04-18-2006, 05:20 PM
Chloe is a workaholic. They often mention that she drinks a lot of coffee to stay up late at night and do work. Chloe goes to a good university (think NYU) and has a job at the best newspaper in the DC universe (think NY Times). On top of that, she spends a lot of time helping Clark work on problems that arise with other people to help rescue them. She wouldn't have a lot of free time. I think part of why they have Clark see Chloe late at night when no one else is around is to establish that Chloe is working harder than her peers at her job. She is very driven so she'd probably have to schedule "fun time" and make a point of allowing for it. So, aside from seeing Lana at their dorm room, the only people she probably interacts with are people she works with at school or at the Daily Planet. So, maybe Lana is her friend by default more than anything.
LastFatherOfKrypton
04-18-2006, 05:24 PM
Originally posted by ms.c.
Chloe is a workaholic. They often mention that she drinks a lot of coffee to stay up late at night and do work. Chloe goes to a good university (think NYU) and has a job at the best newspaper in the DC universe (think NY Times). On top of that, she spends a lot of time helping Clark work on problems that arise with other people to help rescue them. She wouldn't have a lot of free time. I think part of why they have Clark see Chloe late at night when no one else is around is to establish that Chloe is working harder than her peers at her job. She is very driven so she'd probably have to schedule "fun time" and make a point of allowing for it. So, aside from seeing Lana at their dorm room, the only people she probably interacts with are people she works with at school or at the Daily Planet. So, maybe Lana is her friend by default more than anything.
Yes a default that will now eventually see them part as friends.
xrayvision
04-18-2006, 06:19 PM
I wonder where Lana will be staying now (mansion or dorm room). I guess she will still be in the dorm for the rest of this season. I think it's way too early to have her move into the mansion though we know TPTB do things unrealistically (like already having them kiss).
LastFatherOfKrypton
04-18-2006, 07:21 PM
As witnessed Lana's reaction to Chloe. I'd bet that after that we may see them uncomfortable with each other in the same space.
And Lana may move into the mansion, to the horror of her fan base.
angelfire east
04-18-2006, 07:50 PM
Not to mention other members of other fan bases :lol:
LastFatherOfKrypton
04-18-2006, 08:25 PM
Originally posted by angelfire east
Not to mention other members of other fan bases :lol:
:lol:
I'm wondering.....anyone neutral out there???
I for one am Chlark! And Lana may have been off base and couldl have phrased her reaction differently but that is the writers for you.
xrayvision
04-18-2006, 11:36 PM
Originally posted by LastFatherOfKrypton
As witnessed Lana's reaction to Chloe. I'd bet that after that we may see them uncomfortable with each other in the same space.
And Lana may move into the mansion, to the horror of her fan base.
I wouldn't put it past Lex to move her parents' graves to his back yard so that once she moves in, she would never want to leave. Then after she finally breaks free from his clutches, he will keep her parents hostage in his backyard. After some of the stuff we've seen this season, this wouldn't surprise me.
MBCorp
04-18-2006, 11:43 PM
Originally posted by xrayvision
I wouldn't put it past Lex to move her parents' graves to his back yard so that once she moves in, she would never want to leave. Then after she finally breaks free from his clutches, he will keep her parents hostage in his backyard. After some of the stuff we've seen this season, this wouldn't surprise me.
That would be kind of awesome actually, in a sick, twisted way.
Watching Smallville
04-19-2006, 04:29 AM
Originally posted by xrayvision
I wouldn't put it past Lex to move her parents' graves to his back yard so that once she moves in, she would never want to leave. Then after she finally breaks free from his clutches, he will keep her parents hostage in his backyard. After some of the stuff we've seen this season, this wouldn't surprise me.
:lol:
Funny, xrayvision.
LastFatherOfKrypton
04-19-2006, 03:14 PM
Originally posted by MBCorp
That would be kind of awesome actually, in a sick, twisted way.
To say the least about Lex's pysche, but we aren't there yet!:eek:
attitudejc
04-20-2006, 01:04 PM
lana or chloe?
LastFatherOfKrypton
04-20-2006, 01:10 PM
I think 'Ares' meant Lana.
Crazy4Smallville
04-20-2006, 03:40 PM
Originally posted by Kreukie
I know that was directed to me.
The question was:
What did you guys think of Lana's reaction to what Chloe did?
My reply:
Lana should already know all the facts... she's been friends with Clark and Chloe for several years now. She's had run-in's with Lex herself - the barn during his psycho spell, his actions that got Jason fired, his affiliation with Jason and the stones, his father, his girlfriends, etc., etc. I could go on and on and on about how Lana should already have a red flag up concerning Lex. Clark and Chloe have ever held their feelings in secret when it comes to how they feel about Lex. If Lana's that stupid to see it, then she deserves whatever comes out of her stupid decision.
I don't think Chloe would had liked if Lana went nosing around in her relationship with Clark and started assuming thing be true or false.
People in general don't like when people nose around in their things and assume the worst of them. If you personally like it, then that's fine.
If Chloe really wants to drive it home with what she was trying to say, she should had pulled out files, pictures and do what she usually does with Clark when proving a story.
Or at least tell Lana everything she knows about Lex, rather than just say he's "bad news" and accuse Lana of things she has yet to do.
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