Chloe gets burned....

[Incus]

That was quite the burn Lex through at Chloe about not having been in a serious relationship. Perhaps Chlark may be happening in the future...although what you do suppose Lex's comment "I think I know why you are single" was about. It seemed like he may have thought Chloe has a thing for Lana.

[Aloof]

I got the chills watching the scene! I kept saying "Ooh" and snapping my fingers. She got served, and I think she might be in bigger trouble than I thought. :(

[thehenry89]

chole got burned twice in this episode rember when lex said he understood now why she never had a boyfriend.

[Theshadow129x]

i bet she's regretting using that serum on him last week hahaha

[redraven]

Yea she got served...poor Chloe...

[CallMeClark]

Yes, I officially hate Lex for hating on Chloe. See TPTB we aren't the only ones wanting Chloe to get a boyfriend!

[supergurl88]

if i was chloe i would beat his rich henie down!

[LastingChlarker]

She's probably regretting saving his life right about now hahaha

I wouldn't be too afraid for her. I mean, as said in other threads, Lex is not one to be crossed, but neither is Chloe!

[God-Man]

Man, first Lois, now Chloe...the truth hurts, ladies.

[seraphim]

Originally posted by supergurl88
if i was chloe i would beat his rich henie down!


:rotfl: That's exactly what I was thinking when I saw that part. I love Lex's character but he kind of made me mad at that moment.:mad:

[charmedchick]

I really didnt get what lex was saying at the end where he did the major burn about him seeing why chloe never had a boyfriend. What was he referring too? what i mean is what was he trying to say that she was a lesbian? or what? Thats what i got from it. because chloe said ( i really cant remember the exact words) if you hurt lana you gunna have to anwser to me.

what do you all think?

[wickedgirl23]

I think Chloe was just trying to be a good friend and protect Lana. She knows how manipulative and vicious Lex can be.

I think Lex's comment was saying that she didn't have a boyfriend because of her agressiveness and the paranioa he implied that she had.

[charmedchick]

they that would have been my second thing lex ment..

Chloe is a great friend to lana and clark. and it seems like they just walk all over her at times. and i dont think lana had the right to go off on her like that. like you said chloe was just trying to protect lana.

[sstray72]

:lol: My dirty Chlark mind thought that Chloe gave Clark a reason for his eyes to go crazy... ;)


Originally posted by redraven
Yea she got served...

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: Oh man, would I have loved to have heard Lex say that!!

"Chloe, you just got served."

:lol: Dance back, Chloe!!!

It's ON!!

[amberdawn]

:lol::lol:

What a jerk Lex has become. I wanted to smack the smug look off of his face.

[Clarks Blue Eyed Angel]

I don't think Lex was implying Chloe is a lesbian (which would be pretty hypocritical of the guy with the huge hunky boy-toy). I think he was just talking about the fact that Chloe can be a bit off-putting.

But I agree, this is something that has like, never been mentioned on screen before, even though we fans have been complaining for years about why hottie Chloe was always single. I think them finally mentioning it is a foreshadowing of Chlark to come. I think she's always been mostly single because she never could get Clark out of her heart, and didn't see the point bothering for something serious with guys who could never measure up to him. And now with Lexana in full swing, Clark can move on and Chloe can have her chance. Remember Clark admitted to having feelings for Chloe back in season 1, but he was always preoccupied with Lana. Now that Pwinceth is out of the picture, I think he'll open his eyes to the awesomeness of Chloe.

[MBCorp]

I thought it was funny that Lex called Lana and tattled on Chloe. So mature! :p

[sstray72]

Originally posted by Clarks Blue Eyed Angel
I don't think Lex was implying Chloe is a lesbian (which would be pretty hypocritical of the guy with the huge hunky boy-toy). I think he was just talking about the fact that Chloe can be a bit off-putting.

But I agree, this is something that has like, never been mentioned on screen before, even though we fans have been complaining for years about why hottie Chloe was always single. I think them finally mentioning it is a foreshadowing of Chlark to come. I think she's always been mostly single because she never could get Clark out of her heart, and didn't see the point bothering for something serious with guys who could never measure up to him. And now with Lexana in full swing, Clark can move on and Chloe can have her chance. Remember Clark admitted to having feelings for Chloe back in season 1, but he was always preoccupied with Lana. Now that Pwinceth is out of the picture, I think he'll open his eyes to the awesomeness of Chloe.

I reckon I would like this, mmm hmm. But not until season 6!! I feel that this whole Lexana business is a rebound, and if Clark hooked up with Chloe at the same time, it would be a rebound as well, maybe even having the intention of getting back at Lana at the same time. If Chlark is going to happen, I want it to happen RIGHT. I want it to happen like somewhat gradually, like in season 1.

[shy175223]

Originally posted by sstray72
I reckon I would like this, mmm hmm. But not until season 6!! I feel that this whole Lexana business is a rebound, and if Clark hooked up with Chloe at the same time, it would be a rebound as well, maybe even having the intention of getting back at Lana at the same time. If Chlark is going to happen, I want it to happen RIGHT. I want it to happen like somewhat gradually, like in season 1.

In season 1 , it didn't happen right either or else he wouldn't have left her at the dance saving Lana.

[LastFatherOfKrypton]

Originally posted by charmedchick
I really didnt get what lex was saying at the end where he did the major burn about him seeing why chloe never had a boyfriend. What was he referring too? what i mean is what was he trying to say that she was a lesbian? or what? Thats what i got from it. because chloe said ( i really cant remember the exact words) if you hurt lana you gunna have to anwser to me.

what do you all think?


I believe Chloe's exact words to Lex were:

"...you may not consider the consequences....but if you hurt Lana, you are going to feel the consequences and you're looking at her!!"

[SmallvilleMan]

Clark has had plenty of opportunities to see Chloe as more than a friend. Saying he only had eyes for Lana is an excuse imo, especially since he liked two other girls when Lana was available.

[LastFatherOfKrypton]

Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
Clark has had plenty of opportunities to see Chloe as more than a friend. Saying he only had eyes for Lana is an excuse imo, especially since he liked two other girls when Lana was available.


True.

Clark did say in Seasons past when Lana was available that he did not want to jeapardize both his friendships with as he said at that time "two amazing friends"!

[RedPhoenix23]

Originally posted by MBCorp
I thought it was funny that Lex called Lana and tattled on Chloe. So mature! :p

:lol: Dude, I know! :lol:

Can you imagine how the conversation went?

[SmallvilleMan]

Yes he did. He has plenty of chances to be with Chloe, but hasn't taken them. Why? Because he doesn't have those feelings for her. Clark was willingly to be with Kyla when Lana was available. He was with Alicia twice. We've also seen Clark checking out some girls. I've seen them kiss when Clark isn't on red k and Clark looks very uncomfortable with his eyes wide open.

[Souperman321]

I think lex was inferring that Chloe is crazy because of her speculation and that she is like her mother

[LastFatherOfKrypton]

It appears Chloe's responses to Clark, Lex and Lana are reverting back to her reactions of Season's 1, 2 and 3!

Interesting!

[mikemike]

i dont get why they never pursued the pete-chloe thing. it would have given pete something to do.

if they introduce a character to the show next season as a regular, it should be a love interest for chloe.

[Arista 07]

Originally posted by MBCorp
I thought it was funny that Lex called Lana and tattled on Chloe. So mature! :p
I'm saying! Their entire quarrel was rather juvenile, IMO. "Stay away from Lana! Do you think she really wants you?" "What do you know about being wanted? Where's your boyfriend!" "I could ask you the same thing. Oh, wait. Clark ditched you!"

...... sorry. I get side-tracked sometimes. But really their spat did seem to verge on the teen date movie, Bring It On, "You're such an evil whore (Lex)!" side of things. I think I would describe it as "b!t*hy," all around.

It's like "verbal judo" for the under 15 crowd.

[LastFatherOfKrypton]

Originally posted by Arista 07
I'm saying! Their entire quarrel was rather juvenile, IMO. "Stay away from Lana! Do you think she really wants you?" "What do you know about being wanted? Where's your boyfriend!" "I could ask you the same thing. Oh, wait. Clark ditched you!"

...... sorry. I get side-tracked sometimes. But really their spat did seem to verge on the teen date movie, Bring It On, "You're such an evil whore (Lex)!" side of things. I think I would describe it as "b!t*hy," all around.

It's like "verbal judo" for the under 15 crowd.


"Verbal Judo"??

That was a good one!!:lol:

And the thing about it is, perhaps those two enjoyed it?

[savingpeoplething]

I think Lex showed his true form in the conversation with Chloe.
That's what we've all been wanting, right? Bad Lex?
I would really love to see Chloe whup on him somehow after the things he said to her.
How gutsy was it of her to threaten him? Man, even though Lex came down on her afterwards, you gotta have some real strength in you to do that...ESPECIALLY, after all her dealings with the Luthors.
I did get a bad feeling of some setup to come down the road...it made me think that Lex might be the one to cause Chloe's demise. I'm a little mixed on that because on the one hand, I don't want to see Chloe die, but on the other, it would be powerful and give Clark another reason (on top of his MANY) to go against Lex.
I'm in agreement that I thought it was pretty lame that Lex went and ratted Chloe out to Lana.
There's going to be some tension in the dormroom now...

[F-Stop Blues]

I think Lex loves whats going on with Lana and Chloe. I mean really what does he care if he pisses off Chloe? He's Lex freaking Luthor.

[Ares]

it was funny she deserved it

[bluelila]

Well I for one loved the scene. So ok it was uncalled for and quite hurtful. But lex is never more like himself than when he's sparing with chloe. I think he sees her as an equal, someone he knows he shouldn't underestimate. And she knows him, his flaws and all. Unlike lana, he can't play her.

[notfromaroundhere]

After Chloe mentioned what she would do for Lana if Lex hurt her, Lex's little comment comeback at the end of their converstation might have been implying that she was gay. Not that I think she's gay, but it was something a true Luthor would say. Loved it.

[Silent Kal]

Wow. Totally didn't hear any implications of lesbianism in this exchange. I think it's kind of a stretch to assert that. Remember the context: Chloe essentially gets right up in Lex's face and all but threatens retribution and possibly personal violence for a *perceived* threat. So Lex basically implies that Chloe's aggression and paranoia (as stated by other posters) make her unbearable to be in a relationship with.

There may be some other subtext to his comment, so I'm not saying you folks are wrong. I'm just not hearing it. At all.

And I agree with the previous commenter that said that this was Lex showing his true form. Essentially, he is rubbing his manipulative evil in Chloe's face, because he knows that Lana won't believe Chloe's version of Evil Lex to what Lana experiences (Sweet Lex). So I think this conversation and its harsh vibe are kind of a sophisticated "nyah nyah nyah."

Much like Lionel's subtext-heavy "Goodnight...Clark" last week.

[Billy Jor-El]

Chloe could have shot back to Lex that despite all his riches he does not know everything about her private life, and in fact what she does and whom she does it with is....private (even if in fact, out lovely reporter does spend her time solo). Yeah, Lex was way out of line, but I was fearing for Chloe as I thought about Lex's mom saying how the blood of those he's murdered will be on his hands in the future. I dug that Chloe virtually threatened Lex, but at the same time, worry for her.

And in the real world....the high school prom queen who is that smart and that beautiful does not/has not had a boyfriend, or anyone hitting on her in earnest? I think not....

[MBCorp]

Originally posted by Billy Jor-El
And in the real world....the high school prom queen who is that smart and that beautiful does not/has not had a boyfriend, or anyone hitting on her in earnest? I think not....

This is Smallville. Only Lana's allowed to get dates.

And if I was Chloe I would have shot back with, "Had any wives/girlfriends try to kill you lately, Lex?"

Geez, it's not like Lex's love life is all that great.

[CallMeClark]

Yeah, MBCorp is right. This only happens in Smallville. I mean, a girl like Chloe would be stacked with boyfriends in the real world. And has Lex ever had quality girlfriends? Nope.

[Dannyblue1]

I didn't find Lex's last line all that great. I mean, this is Lex. There are so many other things he could've said that would've been more menacing, more threatening, more hurtful. He could've even referred to Chloe's lack of a relationship in a more witty way. Instead, he sounded like a 10 year old grabbing the easy insult because he just can't think of anything else. It was just...beneath him compared to the zingers he's thrown out at people in the past. When he said it, I sat there, mouth hanging open, thinking, "That's all you got? What are you, four?"

And, considering how weak and unsophisticated the insult felt to me, his self-satisfied smirk over it just seemed ridiculous. I mean, tell me he didn't really think the line was that good.

[MBCorp]

Originally posted by Dannyblue1
I didn't find Lex's last line all that great. I mean, this is Lex. There are so many other things he could've that would've been more menacing, more threatening, more hurtful. He could've even referred to a lack of a relationship in a more witty way. Instead, he sounded like a 10 year old grabbing the easy insult because he just can't think of anything else. It was just...beneath him compared to the zingers he's thrown out at people in the past. When he said it, I sat there, mouth hanging open, thinking, "That's all you got? What are you, four?"

And, considering how weak and unsophisticated the insult felt to me, his self-satisfied smirk over it just seemed ridiculous. I mean, tell me he didn't really think the line was that good.

I agree about the line being juvenile, but I think the smirk was because Chloe had just confirmed that Lana was falling into his clutches.

[Dannyblue1]

Originally posted by MBCorp
I agree about the line being juvenile, but I think the smirk was because Chloe had just confirmed that Lana was falling into his clutches.

I hope so, because he seemed way to pleased with himself for a pretty weak effort. But I really don't think so. If they wanted us to know Lex was gleeful because Lana was falling into his clutches, I think they would've gone out of their way to spell it out more. Plus, he didn't need Chloe's visit to prove Lana was falling for his manipulations. He already pretty much knows that.

[clob]

Yeah I think it was ridiculous for him, but at the same time it's a Luthor he don't mean anything IMO they jus say the words waiting she answer the mistery(how a smart and beautiful girl don't have a boyfriend or a life on her own), I mean maybe he thinks Chloe feels lonly because the guy she loves its always bussy with Lana and she can't be with anyone simply because no one its Clark and and she's always supporting Calrk, now that she have a chance Lex its saying come on don't say it's not what you're waiting for?

[LastFatherOfKrypton]

I must say I felt sad for poor Chloe!

Yes she got burned

Once by Lex's denigrating (sneering) comments.

Secondly, by Lana's retort/rebuke of her involvement with Lex as none of her business.

And, if you count Clark as the ultimate "burner" who is oblivious to Chloe's concerns/aches/pains/turmoil in this episode.

Then you have a "Triple Play" whammy on Chloe's nerves. Not good by any means as reminicent of her past aches with Clark in Seasons 1-3.:(

[MBCorp]

Originally posted by LastFatherOfKrypton
I must say I felt sad for poor Chloe!

Yes she got burned

Once by Lex's denigrating (sneering) comments.

Secondly, by Lana's retort/rebuke of her involvement with Lex as none of her business.

And, if you count Clark as the ultimate "burner" who is oblivious to Chloe's concerns/aches/pains/turmoil in this episode.

Then you have a "Triple Play" whammy on Chloe's nerves. Not good by any means as reminicent of her past aches with Clark in Seasons 1-3.:(

Well, that's why at the end of the episode Chloe had a, "TO HELL WITH ALL OF YOU!' attitude. She's sick of the whole business, and little wonder!:p

[Watching Smallville]

Exactly. Lex is just plain insulting -- to the person who just brought him back to life. Lana tells her off -- after Chloe has tracked down the med students to help save her, too. And Clark is still asking Chloe to feed him information on Lana -- after she helps him with Maddie. At this point I think Chloe has a free pass to move on from all three of these people. :rolleyes:

[margroks]

Lex is the master manupulator and says whatever it takes despite the fact that Chloe has saved his life before and in fact literally brought him back from the dead just last week.

But Lana? What a nasty piece of work to gripe at her friend for trying to protect her then running to Lex and sucking face the minute she gets the chance.

[muffinpeddler]

He could of burned her worse: "I'm beginning to see why you've never had a boyfriend. Unless you count Sub-Zero suitors and mentally depraved artists."

[MBCorp]

Lex reminded me of the b*tchy, popular girl that always shows up in teen movies. He was so catty!

[SmallvilleMan]

I applaud Chloe for being a good best friend But Lex did get her good, she should have at least came back with. "At least I have hair." :lol:

[LastFatherOfKrypton]

Originally posted by MBCorp
Well, that's why at the end of the episode Chloe had a, "TO HELL WITH ALL OF YOU!' attitude. She's sick of the whole business, and little wonder!:p


Yes and it would be interesting to see if Chloe bounces back and keeps going despite this "Bermuda Triangle of Hell" she must endure!

But if Clark's "....probably because you care about people more than anyone I know..." comment from 'Tomb' is an indication of Chloe's 'mature stamina", then she is the "Woman" who is the "heroine of the story" sort to speak.

[muffinpeddler]

Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
I applaud Chloe for being a good best friend But Lex did get her good, she should have at least came back with. "At least I have hair." :lol:

Oooh! That would be a good burn!

[photogirl]

I thought that he was implying that she didn't have a boyfriend because of how mean she was towards him...like who would date her. That's what I got from it.

[LastFatherOfKrypton]

Originally posted by photogirl
I thought that he was implying that she didn't have a boyfriend because of how mean she was towards him...like who would date her. That's what I got from it.


I agree too!

That is the impression I got on the surface at Lex's girlfriend comment.

[i love u tom]

UGHHHH I HATE LEXX THAT WAS SOOOO MEANN!!!!!! "now i know why you never had a boyfriend." ok, he was married twice. it wasnt even out of love, it was out of money and spying!! so what the hell is he talking about??????? i felt so bad for chloe!!! she slammed the door behind her, but i think she should have punched lex right in his rich billion dollar FACE!!!!!!!!!!!! ughhhh i was like OH NO U DIDNT!
haha that 'AT LEAST I HAVE HAIR" comeback would have been good, you're right.

[tjpw fanatic]

Originally posted by photogirl
I thought that he was implying that she didn't have a boyfriend because of how mean she was towards him...like who would date her. That's what I got from it.

thats what i thought also. I thought he was saying like i see why you dont ever have a boyfriend, it's because you ar B**** chloe. thats what i thought he meant by it

[LastFatherOfKrypton]

Originally posted by tjpw fanatic
thats what i thought also. I thought he was saying like i see why you dont ever have a boyfriend, it's because you ar B**** chloe. thats what i thought he meant by it


Precisely!:D

[Cat_Atak]

Chloe is freakin awesome.....I was just like"Wow" and then when Lex showed his true colors my mouth just dropped. What a bastard. Then Lana confronting Chloe telling her nothing happened and then at the end doing what she did with Lex was just dumb. I was just like there she goes again dumb Lana. Chloe is just awesome....love her to death.

[Coyote]

Pretty sure he was implying that she was a lesbian, and his little smirk at her reaction may have meant that he thought he had guessed right, and learned something new about Chloe. Lex likes to pry secrets out of people, and it's characteristic of him to have double meanings to what he says.

Wouldn't surprise me at all if Chloe turned out like Willow on Buffy, who tried some relationships with guys, but finally realized that she was gay. It's possible they've been planning that from the start. It would explain why they've never written her a serious boyfriend and why Clark winds up with Lois in the end instead of Chloe.

[CallMeClark]

He was just being a jerk because finally someone stood up to him. Chloe no longer fears the Luthors.

It seems Lana will also begin to draw trust from Chloe as well as Chloe from Lana.

[Watching Smallville]

Originally posted by Coyote
Pretty sure he was implying that she was a lesbian, and his little smirk at her reaction may have meant that he thought he had guessed right, and learned something new about Chloe. Lex likes to pry secrets out of people, and it's characteristic of him to have double meanings to what he says.
I didn't get this. Chloe had just reamed into Lex. I think he was telling her that her strength of character was unattractive.

[muffinpeddler]

Originally posted by Coyote
Pretty sure he was implying that she was a lesbian, and his little smirk at her reaction may have meant that he thought he had guessed right, and learned something new about Chloe. Lex likes to pry secrets out of people, and it's characteristic of him to have double meanings to what he says.

Wouldn't surprise me at all if Chloe turned out like Willow on Buffy, who tried some relationships with guys, but finally realized that she was gay. It's possible they've been planning that from the start. It would explain why they've never written her a serious boyfriend and why Clark winds up with Lois in the end instead of Chloe. :eek: Oh, hell no. Hell nooooo. I love Chloe to death. I am strongly against same sex relations/marriages. (the batteries only work if properly inserted) This will not happen. If it does, then Smallville has gone too far. But I have faith it won't.

[RedPhoenix23]

Originally posted by Incus
That was quite the burn Lex through at Chloe about not having been in a serious relationship. Perhaps Chlark may be happening in the future...although what you do suppose Lex's comment "I think I know why you are single" was about. It seemed like he may have thought Chloe has a thing for Lana.

I don't think he meant that Chloe swings that way. Lex was just basically calling her a loser, just in a more catty jr. high kind of way. If anything, I think Lex was trying to light a fire under her butt so that she will now go after Clark, thus preventing Lana from having the option.

[Tomsgurl88]

"I'm starting to get an inkling of why you've never had a boyfriend." Mannn that was a LOW blow from Lex, if that was me, i would of smacked the *** out of him!

[shirkie]

Lex deserved a knee to the crotch. If Chloe were in the real world, she would have men attached to various... parts... of her body 24/7. She's have to surgically remove suitors just so she could go to her job at the Daily Planet. Lex was just making a snide remark, callously ignoring Chloe's singleness is largely due to lusting after one particular BDA... Not scamping along after FoTWs like other chars have done
shirkie

[heavens_cry]

I think I would have slap him and then walk out of the room if I was her.. That would made a cool episode

[Chokito]

he becoming more and more EVIL

[captaincharisma]

Good for Lex, Chloe deserved it. Who does she think she is? Some Mother Teresa or something? Needs to butt out of other people's business.

[Coyote]

Chloe barged into Lex's house and started chewing him out about something that was really none of her business. (as Lana later told her) She pretty much got what she deserved.

As far as Chloe being a lesbian, it would seem to fit with what they've done with the character so far, and with what happens with the character in the future. I does explain why she doesn't end up with Clark in future, when she seems to be a better partner for him than either Lana or Lois. The other common explanation for that is that she gets killed. I'd rather see her gay than dead.

Anyway, I do think that's what Lex was implying. It's possible that this could be a hint about a future character development for Chloe.

[hopeless]

Regarding this thread, until I see the scene you've described I'll assume you on the ball, but it does sound very juvenile after all if Lex had any brains whatsoever he would already know Chloe has a major crush on Clark.
Such quip is an indication that he has no idea what he's talking about, perhaps his ego has grown so large that he considers anyone who doesn't immediately fancy him as being more interested in thier sex?
No given how it sounds they've been treating the series so far this sounds like something MR has overlooked a ratehr low point for his characterisation, but mybe it was the best he could do with such a lame reprisal.

[shy175223]

Originally posted by Coyote
Chloe barged into Lex's house and started chewing him out about something that was really none of her business. (as Lana later told her) She pretty much got what she deserved.

As far as Chloe being a lesbian, it would seem to fit with what they've done with the character so far, and with what happens with the character in the future. I does explain why she doesn't end up with Clark in future, when she seems to be a better partner for him than either Lana or Lois. The other common explanation for that is that she gets killed. I'd rather see her gay than dead.

Anyway, I do think that's what Lex was implying. It's possible that this could be a hint about a future character development for Chloe.

Oh come on maybe she had went about the wrong way BUT she did have a good reason to She was looking out for a friend. As for Chloe being a leisbian that interaction with Lex was meant to be hurtful not insightful.

[LastFatherOfKrypton]

Originally posted by shirkie
Lex deserved a knee to the crotch. If Chloe were in the real world, she would have men attached to various... parts... of her body 24/7. She's have to surgically remove suitors just so she could go to her job at the Daily Planet. Lex was just making a snide remark, callously ignoring Chloe's singleness is largely due to lusting after one particular BDA... Not scamping along after FoTWs like other chars have done
shirkie


All so true!!

However, I suspect that situation was designed to be part of a long drawn-out dramatic series of scenes between them.... the dialog and looks etc....was clearly meant to arouse our anticipation of what will definitely happen between them in future episodes.

Perhaps later we may see Chloe give Lex a deserved and "good swift kick"....literally!;)

[shirkie]

At least she didn't yell "Nuh-uh! I banged Jimmy Olsen, yeah baby yeah!" :D
shirkie

[starmaster]

lex thinks his all big coz hes a billionnaire and can attract any girl with that kind of ca$$$h.
chloe is a nice hardworking girl and lex was real out of order there...

[LastFatherOfKrypton]

quote: Originally posted by Coyote Pretty sure he was implying that she was a lesbian, and his little smirk at her reaction may have meant that he thought he had guessed right, and learned something new about Chloe. Lex likes to pry secrets out of people, and it's characteristic of him to have double meanings to what he says. Wouldn't surprise me at all if Chloe turned out like Willow on Buffy, who tried some relationships with guys, but finally realized that she was gay. It's possible they've been planning that from the start. It would explain why they've never written her a serious boyfriend and why Clark winds up with Lois in the end instead of Chloe.


Originally posted by muffinpeddler
:eek: Oh, hell no. Hell nooooo. I love Chloe to death. I am strongly against same sex relations/marriages. (the batteries only work if properly inserted) This will not happen. If it does, then Smallville has gone too far. But I have faith it won't.

Agreed!
I'm going with your sentiment muffinpeddler!

No way, no how will Chloe go ~"LEZ"~ or slash or whatever!

Al Gough and company would have sunk to new lows with that arrangement!

[tjpw fanatic]

Yea, I definitely dont think they would go there! he was implying she was a nosy B****! not that she was a lez, we already know that she's completely in love with clark

[Dannyblue1]

Actually, I thought Lex was implying that men can't possibly be attracted to women who are strong and speak their minds and stand up for themselves (or others). I tried not to see it that way, but that's what I come back to every time I think of that conversation. Which actually goes with other things the show has said about women over the years. (Like, according to "Bound", women are so emotionally weak, having sex with a guy who doesn't call the next day will turn her into a stalker, a psycho killer, or a bitter shrew. And, according to "Fragile", it's totally normal for a girl who's just broken up with her boyfriend to go off the deep end and become a junkie.)

[LastFatherOfKrypton]

Agreed that Chloe is in love with Clark and....

Yes the same impression I got of what Lex was conveying to Chloe, was about a strong minded woman over powering a man's status etc could not want a to be around a harden overbearing individual...

And don't misunderstand Chloe is NOT overbearing and harden, she still has her femininity and beauty but she is tough too. She may not need a man to complete her but she is also in love with her SuperClark too.

[Watching Smallville]

Originally posted by Dannyblue1
Actually, I thought Lex was implying that men can't possibly be attracted to women who are strong and speak their minds and stand up for themselves (or others).
This is just the way I took his remark.

[LastingChlarker]

Originally posted by LastFatherOfKrypton
Agreed that Chloe is in love with Clark and....

Yes the same impression I got of what Lex was conveying to Chloe, was about a strong minded woman over powering a man's status etc could not want a to be around a harden overbearing individual...

And don't misunderstand Chloe is NOT overbearing and harden, she still has her femininity and beauty but she is tough too. She may not need a man to complete her but she is also in love with her SuperClark too.

Ditto to all that. That's also how I perceived his comment.

[LastFatherOfKrypton]

Originally posted by LastFatherOfKrypton

Agreed that Chloe is in love with Clark and.... Yes the same impression I got of what Lex was conveying to Chloe, was about a strong minded woman over powering a man's status etc could not want a to be around a harden overbearing individual... And don't misunderstand Chloe is NOT overbearing and harden, she still has her femininity and beauty but she is tough too. She may not need a man to complete her but she is also in love with her SuperClark too.




Originally posted by LastingChlarker
Ditto to all that. That's also how I perceived his comment.


Yes! Precisely:) ;)

[MBCorp]

Originally posted by Dannyblue1
Actually, I thought Lex was implying that men can't possibly be attracted to women who are strong and speak their minds and stand up for themselves (or others).

Yes, I took it that way too. Lex is such a sexist pig!

And considering this was written by the same people who haven't given Chloe a boyfriend, then the writers are probably sexist pigs too.:\

[LastFatherOfKrypton]

Originally posted by MBCorp
Yes, I took it that way too. Lex is such a sexist pig!

And considering this was written by the same people who haven't given Chloe a boyfriend, then the writers are probably sexist pigs too.:\


Interesting!

Now I myself am curious as who the writers are that would do this to Chloe (read somewhere as AM indicates a certain Smallville writer loves her and writes for her character).

Now I must rewatch the opening credits and see the names of the writers unless you already know and can post the imfamous culprits!!!:mad:

Pigs indeed!

[MBCorp]

Originally posted by LastFatherOfKrypton
Interesting!

Now I myself am curious as who the writers are that would do this to Chloe (read somewhere as AM indicates a certain Smallville writer loves her and writes for her character).

Now I must rewatch the opening credits and see the names of the writers unless you already know and can post the imfamous culprits!!!:mad:

Pigs indeed!

heh. I just meant that the writers haven't given Chloe a boyfriend, and then they have Lex throw it up to her face that she doesn't have a boyfriend because she's strong minded, and it makes me wonder if they agree with Lex on the subject. I meant the writers in general, and not any individual ones.:p

[LastFatherOfKrypton]

Originally posted by MBCorp
heh. I just meant that the writers haven't given Chloe a boyfriend, and then they have Lex throw it up to her face that she doesn't have a boyfriend because she's strong minded, and it makes me wonder if they agree with Lex on the subject. I meant the writers in general, and not any individual ones.:p


Yes I see this!

But still, you have now raised an interesting premise to pursue! Which writers are that are behind the conspiracy!!

And please don't say there is none to found!;)

[Watching Smallville]

Originally posted by MBCorp
heh. I just meant that the writers haven't given Chloe a boyfriend, and then they have Lex throw it up to her face that she doesn't have a boyfriend because she's strong minded, and it makes me wonder if they agree with Lex on the subject. I meant the writers in general, and not any individual ones.:p
It does make you wonder whether their idea of the perfect woman is porcelainesque and snappish. :lol:

[All about Clark]

It was 2 that did Arrival, I actually start looking for that now.

Chloe's comeback could have been that Lex can't keep a woman and also that they all want to kill him.

[Kezz]

I'd say that it's fairly obvious that the writers believe that intelligent, independant and ambitious women couldn't possibly be attractive to the opposite sex. Personally I think it's deeply worrying that the producers are allowing such achaic views to be aired on the show, Lana is not the be all and end all of femininity or a particularly good role model to young women.

While the writers of Smallville may be miosgynistic enough to portray Lana as some sort of ideal woman, most of the guys I know who watch Smallville think that while the actress is gorgeous, her character is whiny and annoying to say the least. In fact both my brother and my boyfriend cheered when her car crashed and she died. Shame it wasn't permanent huh?

[LastFatherOfKrypton]

Originally posted by Kezz
I'd say that it's fairly obvious that the writers believe that intelligent, independant and ambitious women couldn't possibly be attractive to the opposite sex. Personally I think it's deeply worrying that the producers are allowing such achaic views to be aired on the show, Lana is not the be all and end all of femininity or a particularly good role model to young women.

While the writers of Smallville may be miosgynistic enough to portray Lana as some sort of ideal woman, most of the guys I know who watch Smallville think that while the actress is gorgeous, her character is whiny and annoying to say the least. In fact both my brother and my boyfriend cheered when her car crashed and she died. Shame it wasn't permanent huh?


OR then again Lex's retorts could be the writer's way of explain to us why Chloe is "manless" (without an romantic involvement).

[bluegayle]

Originally posted by Kezz
I'd say that it's fairly obvious that the writers believe that intelligent, independant and ambitious women couldn't possibly be attractive to the opposite sex. Personally I think it's deeply worrying that the producers are allowing such achaic views to be aired on the show, Lana is not the be all and end all of femininity or a particularly good role model to young women.


Pretty much since Season 4, Chloe has been shown to be a good friend to both Lana and Clark. No more hidden desires of wishing Lana was out of the picture. In season 5, several times she tells Clark that he should just tell Lana his secret.

The writers can add a new storyline at any time but if they wanted to imply a certain interest Chloe has in Lana, they could have given other clues along the way, especially since they were rooming together.

I rewatched the episode where Alicia is introduced, and from that, I dont even know why Clark would be in love with Alicia. After their first date, he already was worried they were moving too fast (ie, non-committing boy). Then of course, she goes psycho soon after and Clark and Chloe now treat her as a FoTW instead of an innocent person with meteor powers.

As for Lana, parts of her story have pretty much been contrived to keep Clark and Chloe apart. The twister in season 1 was reasonable. Showing up to the prom hoping for a dance with Clark even though she was dating Jason, was not reasonable. Saying she has always been in love with him as he lay dying on a hospital bed, was not reasonable. Kissing Lex here in this episode to initiate some kind of romantic relationship now doesn't seem reasonable either, given how strongly her breakup with Clark seems to have affected her. Sure, she may still be on the rebound, but that is just a convenient excuse so she can later go on about her "love" for Clark again.

It's too bad the writers are turning a blind eye to the very possible relationship between Clark and Chloe. Regardless of how it would end to pave the way for Clois many years later, this is a story of Smallville. We don't need Clois, Perry, Jimmy Olsen, Lex vs SuperClark to make this a great series about young Clark Kent.

[LastFatherOfKrypton]

Originally posted by bluegayle
Pretty much since Season 4, Chloe has been shown to be a good friend to both Lana and Clark. No more hidden desires of wishing Lana was out of the picture. In season 5, several times she tells Clark that he should just tell Lana his secret.

The writers can add a new storyline at any time but if they wanted to imply a certain interest Chloe has in Lana, they could have given other clues along the way, especially since they were rooming together.

I rewatched the episode where Alicia is introduced, and from that, I dont even know why Clark would be in love with Alicia. After their first date, he already was worried they were moving too fast (ie, non-committing boy). Then of course, she goes psycho soon after and Clark and Chloe now treat her as a FoTW instead of an innocent person with meteor powers.

As for Lana, parts of her story have pretty much been contrived to keep Clark and Chloe apart. The twister in season 1 was reasonable. Showing up to the prom hoping for a dance with Clark even though she was dating Jason, was not reasonable. Saying she has always been in love with him as he lay dying on a hospital bed, was not reasonable. Kissing Lex here in this episode to initiate some kind of romantic relationship now doesn't seem reasonable either, given how strongly her breakup with Clark seems to have affected her. Sure, she may still be on the rebound, but that is just a convenient excuse so she can later go on about her "love" for Clark again.

It's too bad the writers are turning a blind eye to the very possible relationship between Clark and Chloe. Regardless of how it would end to pave the way for Clois many years later, this is a story of Smallville. We don't need Clois, Perry, Jimmy Olsen, Lex vs SuperClark to make this a great series about young Clark Kent.


Yes! All that being true, obviously the writers however see a different path for Chloe.

And I think it stems from the fact that originally she was supposed to be the "disposable character" of the show seeing part of the Smallville story was how a young Clark Kent is shown dealing with his crush on Lana Lang as they showed for example in the 1978 Superman Movie starring the late Christopher Reeve.

[Fish1941]

Originally posted by seraphim
:rotfl: That's exactly what I was thinking when I saw that part. I love Lex's character but he kind of made me mad at that moment.:mad:


I wasn't mad at Lex. Chloe had went too far. She had no proof that Lex and Lana were dating and instead jumped to conclusions. She got what she had deserved.

[Cat_Atak]

Whether or not Lex was implying that she was a lesbian and ends up being a lesbian it does not change Chloe in anyway I think that she would still be the same Chloe but don't worry they have written her character as being too in love with Clark for the writers to ever do that.

[LastFatherOfKrypton]

Originally posted by Cat_Atak
Whether or not Lex was implying that she was a lesbian and ends up being a lesbian it does not change Chloe in anyway I think that she would still be the same Chloe but don't worry they have written her character as being too in love with Clark for the writers to ever do that.


Agree with you on that Cat_Atak!

[Cat_Atak]

Thank LastFatherofKrypton.....I just think that Chloe was being strong and assertive and it sucks that most think that is a very lesbian way for women to be or she must be a feminist....I think that there are plenty of strong women who will stand up to a man and not be a lesbian or a man hating feminist....all in all Lex was being a jerk regardless of what he was trying to say

[LastFatherOfKrypton]

Originally posted by Cat_Atak
Thank LastFatherofKrypton.....I just think that Chloe was being strong and assertive and it sucks that most think that is a very lesbian way for women to be or she must be a feminist....I think that there are plenty of strong women who will stand up to a man and not be a lesbian or a man hating feminist....all in all Lex was being a jerk regardless of what he was trying to say


Yes!

Just like Lex was with Chloe in the Kuwatche Cave in 'Mortal' so he was with her again in this latest encounter!

Lex is being Lex Luthor!:eek:

[Watching Smallville]

There's nothing wrong with being a feminist -- someone who thinks women are people, too, and deserve respect. Chloe is a great example of one -- self sufficient, intelligent, competent. Same goes for Martha. Same goes for Lois -- and she's lucky enough to snag Clark in the end.

Come to think of it, SV gives us some great examples of strong, intelligent, competent women. Maybe Lois has a little ways to go... but she'll get there. It seems they've heaped more confusion on the female lead character than any of the supporting women characters in the show.

[LastFatherOfKrypton]

Originally posted by Watching Smallville
There's nothing wrong with being a feminist -- someone who thinks women are people, too, and deserve respect. Chloe is a great example of one -- self sufficient, intelligent, competent. Same goes for Martha. Same goes for Lois -- and she's lucky enough to snag Clark in the end.

Come to think of it, SV gives us some great examples of strong, intelligent, competent women. Maybe Lois has a little ways to go... but she'll get there. It seems they've heaped more confusion on the female lead character than any of the supporting women characters in the show.


Definition in support:

Feminist:

"A supporter of women's claims to be given rights, opportunities, and treatment equal to those of men"

I believe it goes without saying as we have seen, the women of Smallville, even Senator Martha Kent have already exercised and actively demonstrated that right.....God given under Constitution even in Smallville and Chloe leads the way!

[MBCorp]

That's true, Chloe, Lois, and Martha are three very strong willed, smart ladies. Why they can't write Lana the same way is beyond me.

[Watching Smallville]

Martha's also a great feminist when she's at home baking pies.

So I guess I have to think that remark belongs to Lex and not the writers. Pretty tacky of the super villain.:rolleyes:


Originally posted by MBCorp
That's true, Chloe, Lois, and Martha are three very strong willed, smart ladies. Why they can't write Lana the same way is beyond me.
Exactly what I was thinking when i was writing that post. Why Lana has to be so helpless, I don't know.

[MBCorp]

Originally posted by Watching Smallville
So I guess I have to think that remark belongs to Lex and not the writers. Pretty tacky of the super villain.:rolleyes:

Lex=Sexist Pig. :p

Maybe Chlark will start dating and then Chloe can flaunt her relationship with Clark in Lex's face.

[IVODARK]

Originally posted by Watching Smallville
Exactly what I was thinking when i was writing that post. Why Lana has to be so helpless, I don't know.

Hey, Lana's not helpless, she said so, she's no "prey", she is a Huntress, GRRRR:lol:

[shy175223]

Originally posted by Fish1941
I wasn't mad at Lex. Chloe had went too far. She had no proof that Lex and Lana were dating and instead jumped to conclusions. She got what she had deserved.

maybe but she WAS right and she had every reason to be. She was trying to protect a friend kudos to her. :mad:

[Dannyblue1]

So, when I see a friend getting involved with someone I'm pretty sure will hurt them, I need 100% proof before I try to intervene.

Personally, I don't know what Chloe thought she would accomplish by going to see Lex. But I don't fault the sentiment (trying to protect a friend) behind it.

Also, I don't know how anyone looked at that scene and saw that Lex was trying to imply that Chloe was gay with his comments. I think that's a big leap from what was said.

And I have no problem with gay characters on TV, and saw nothing wrong with Willow "coming out" and dating Tara. In fact, I liked the way Mutant Enemy handled it. (Willow and Tara were just a couple, like any other on the show. The fact that they were both women was almost incidental.) However, I don't think AlMiles are going there. And, considering there track record with other romantic relationships on SV, I shudder to think what they would do with such a storyline.

[shy175223]

Originally posted by Dannyblue1
So, when I see a friend getting involved with someone I'm pretty sure will hurt them, I need 100% proof before I try to intervene.

Personally, I don't know what Chloe thought she would accomplish by going to see Lex. But I don't fault the sentiment (trying to protect a friend) behind it.


She might have went about it the wrong way, but like I said she did have a good reason.:\

[LastFatherOfKrypton]

Originally posted by MBCorp
Lex=Sexist Pig. :p

Maybe Chlark will start dating and then Chloe can flaunt her relationship with Clark in Lex's face.


:lol: :lol:

As Lex said to Simone via long distance after she had completed her "Dirty Work" for him:

"Hello Simone! My, don't we look "delicktable"!!

Same for the Chlark..... it would be delicious....right in Lex Luthor's face (never mind the double entandre) :p

[Incus]

I think it is time for Clark and Chloe to bring their relationship to the next level. However, I would rather see her single than be with someone other than Clark. It seems like the writer likes to pair Chloe, or even Lana, for that matter with psycho boyfriends for short story arcs.

[shy175223]

Actually I preferr Chloe to have a someone for herself just because she deserves it, Maybe next season *crossesfingers*

[LastFatherOfKrypton]

Yes I agree it would be absolutely great if and that is a Big IF, Chloe and Clark would take their frienship to the next level.

But, conversely, the writers I think will be focusing on more Superman action with Lois now in the mix.

[MBCorp]

I'm perfectly fine with either Chlark or Clois happening next season, just as long as they don't become angsty messes like a certain other ship which shall remain nameless.

[LastFatherOfKrypton]

Originally posted by MBCorp
I'm perfectly fine with either Chlark or Clois happening next season, just as long as they don't become angsty messes like a certain other ship which shall remain blameless.


You mean "nameless" right!???:confused:

[MBCorp]

Ha! I did mean namless. Wow, what a weird typo.:p

[shy175223]

Originally posted by MBCorp
I'm perfectly fine with either Chlark or Clois happening next season, just as long as they don't become angsty messes like a certain other ship which shall remain nameless.

I don' t think either of things are going to happen Clois romance is rather early, and Chlark well, I think it's highly unlikelybecause the relationship is just perfect the way it is.

[LastFatherOfKrypton]

Yes shy175223, Chlark may perfect the way it is....unless the writers (to anyone horror) explore what is really bugging Chloe, only to reveal it is/was her SuperClark.

[All about Clark]

I'd rather see Clark with Chloe for early S6 than Lois. Even though I love Clois, the problem there is she doesn't know the secret and we don't want it to get like Clana. Being that Chloe knows the secret, it would stand as a more successful attempt. Let the Clois brew slowly and maybe be a romantic issue end of S6.

[shy175223]

Originally posted by All about Clark
I'd rather see Clark with Chloe for early S6 than Lois. Even though I love Clois, the problem there is she doesn't know the secret and we don't want it to get like Clana. Being that Chloe knows the secret, it would stand as a more successful attempt. Let the Clois brew slowly and maybe be a romantic issue end of S6.

Even though Chloe knows the secert, I doubt that Clark and Chloe's relationship would survive the romance mainly because Clark has stated that he doesn't feel that way about her.. He is crazy about her but he doesn't feel anything romantic towards her. I rather see Clois brew more slowly toward maybe the last episode of the series (hopefully it would be season7).

[LastFatherOfKrypton]

I am curious shy175223.

How Clark can be crazy about her [Chloe] and not have some romantic feeling for her??:confused:

[shy175223]

Originally posted by LastFatherOfKrypton
I am curious shy175223.

How Clark can be crazy about her [Chloe] and not have some romantic feeling for her??:confused:

I actually got that from the season 1 or 2 quota about Chloe. to me it seems to make sense, since he does care very much for her BUT at the sametime he doesn't any feelings toward her the way he has with Lana.

[LastFatherOfKrypton]

Originally posted by shy175223
I actually got that from the season 1 or 2 quota about Chloe. to me it seems to make sense, since he does care very much for her BUT at the sametime he doesn't any feelings toward her the way he has with Lana.


Yes, I see where you are coming from!

I too have seen and rewatched past seasons 1 and 2 and have even been impressed with Season's three Fever as ONE OF the episodes that have it appear where Lana actually suppresses the knowledge from Clark that Chloe cares for him deeply.

Bottom line: If Lana was not in the picture, then I suspect Chloe would be Clark's preferred girl of choice.

He finally asked Chloe in the barn if she wanted to go and she said "Yes!!....

Clark: Sorry I did not ask you sooner! (because of earlier apprehensive of the Lana factor?)

Chloe: (her running tag line) It was "worth the wait"!!

Even as he said to Chloe by the lockers, days before the Spring Formal:

Clark: Chloe, I want to take you to the Spring Formal not by default but because I WANT to...." (and the gently kiss on her cheek, :p as Lana walks by from her angle.....thinking it was a kiss on Chloe's lips, as Lana gazes away in embarrassed conviction)

[myankskent]

Originally posted by LastFatherOfKrypton
Yes, I see where you are coming from!

I too have seen and rewatched past seasons 1 and 2 and have even been impressed with Season's three Fever as ONE OF the episodes that have it appear where Lana actually suppresses the knowledge from Clark that Chloe cares for him deeply.

Bottom line: If Lana was not in the picture, then I suspect Chloe would be Clark's preferred girl of choice.

He finally asked Chloe in the barn if she wanted to go and she said "Yes!!....

Clark: Sorry I did not ask you sooner! (because of earlier apprehensive of the Lana factor?)

Chloe: (her running tag line) It was "worth the wait"!!

Even as he said to Chloe by the lockers, days before the Spring Formal:

Clark: Chloe, I want to take you to the Spring Formal not by default but because I WANT to...." (and the gently kiss on her cheek, :p as Lana walks by from her angle.....thinking it was a kiss on Chloe's lips, as Lana gazes away in embarrassed conviction)

I just want to point out that Fever was not in season 3, it was in season 2. Fever was really the last hint at Chlark when Chloe read the letter to Clark when he was sick. But nothing ever came of it in later episodes because Clark never loved Chloe in that way.

[Dannyblue1]

Originally posted by myankskent
I just want to point out that Fever was not in season 3, it was in season 2. Fever was really the last hint at Chlark when Chloe read the letter to Clark when he was sick. But nothing ever came of it in later episodes because Clark never loved Chloe in that way.

I'd be happy if Chloe and Clark remained good friends. However, I have to disagree with you on some things.

As has been pointed out, there's been ample evidence that Clark has, and still could, feel "that way" about Chloe. And not just in seasons 1 and 2, but seasons 3 and 4 as well.

But even if there had never, ever been any hint that Clark had or could feel "that way" about Chloe, that doesn't mean he couldn't develop feelings for her somewhere down the line. After all, it happens all the time in real life. Two friends have known each other forever, but never had romantic feelings for each other until five, ten years after they met. In fact, not only does that happen in real life, it's a pretty popular theme in countless movies, novels, songs, etc.

So, basically, the argument that Clark could never feel "that way" about Chloe because he never had in the past is false on two fronts.

Personally, I'm a little nervous about what the writers would do with a Chlark romance. But, if they did it well, I wouldn't mind seeing it at all.

[myankskent]

Originally posted by Dannyblue1
I'd be happy if Chloe and Clark remained good friends. However, I have to disagree with you on some things.

As has been pointed out, there's been ample evidence that Clark has, and still could, feel "that way" about Chloe. And not just in seasons 1 and 2, but seasons 3 and 4 as well.

But even if there had never, ever been any hint that Clark had or could feel "that way" about Chloe, that doesn't mean he couldn't develop feelings for her somewhere down the line. After all, it happens all the time in real life. Two friends have known each other forever, but never had romantic feelings for each other until five, ten years after they met. In fact, not only does that happen in real life, it's a pretty popular theme in countless movies, novels, songs, etc.

So, basically, the argument that Clark could never feel "that way" about Chloe because he never had in the past is false on two fronts.

Personally, I'm a little nervous about what the writers would do with a Chlark romance. But, if they did it well, I wouldn't mind seeing it at all.

There is no evidence, at least to my knowledge, that Clark could have romantic feelings for Chloe in seasons 3 and 4. Though there have been meaningless kisses, you never got the impression that Clark felt that way. Seasons 1 and 2 there was, but I think once Clark and Lana got together at the end of season 2, that has been all that Clark has wanted. Chloe, on the otherhand, would take Clark in a second all throughout the series.
If there is ever a Chlark romance, then it would be ridiculous because not only are the writers making Chloe a better journalist than Chloe, but they would then make Chloe an official love interest for Clark. How many traits does Chloe have to possess to resemble what Lois' character should be? As it is she possesses way too many.

[Dannyblue1]

Originally posted by myankskent
There is no evidence, at least to my knowledge, that Clark could have romantic feelings for Chloe in seasons 3 and 4. Though there have been meaningless kisses, you never got the impression that Clark felt that way. Seasons 1 and 2 there was, but I think once Clark and Lana got together at the end of season 2, that has been all that Clark has wanted. Chloe, on the otherhand, would take Clark in a second all throughout the series.

It's all in the eye of the beholder. It's your perception that there've been no hints that Clark could have feelings for since season 2. Others would disagree. Just because you see something a certain way doesn't make it a fact.

But, like I said, even if their was not one hint in the entire history of the show that Clark could have romantic feelings for Chloe, an argument like, "Clark never had feelings for Chloe before, so he can't possibly have feelings for her some time in the future," is shaky at best. It's like saying, "I've never tripped in public before, so I couldn't possibly ever trip in public." It's just not possible to know something like that.


If there is ever a Chlark romance, then it would be ridiculous because not only are the writers making Chloe a better journalist than Chloe, but they would then make Chloe an official love interest for Clark. How many traits does Chloe have to possess to resemble what Lois' character should be? As it is she possesses way too many.

I'm not sure what you mean by this. Is there a score sheet on each character, and each is only allowed to have a certain amount of personality traits, a certain number of story lines, only so many plot points?

That's not how it works. At least, not only a show where the characters and storylines are allowed to develop naturally, and organically.

[myankskent]

Originally posted by Dannyblue1
It's all in the eye of the beholder. It's your perception that there've been no hints that Clark could have feelings for since season 2. Others would disagree. Just because you see something a certain way doesn't make it a fact.

But, like I said, even if their was not one hint in the entire history of the show that Clark could have romantic feelings for Chloe, an argument like, "Clark never had feelings for Chloe before, so he can't possibly have feelings for her some time in the future," is shaky at best. It's like saying, "I've never tripped in public before, so I couldn't possibly ever trip in public." It's just not possible to know something like that.



I'm not sure what you mean by this. Is there a score sheet on each character, and each is only allowed to have a certain amount of personality traits, a certain number of story lines, only so many plot points?

That's not how it works. At least, not only a show where the characters and storylines are allowed to develop naturally, and organically.

Ok, if you are going to analyze looks that Clark gives and all of that stuff and interpret it as he has feelings for Chloe, I won't argue with you. I'm going on what Clark has continually said about Chloe over the series, if there is more to it than that then fine. Bottom line is Clark has never showed it in any kind of convincing kind of way. Alicia and lana are the only two girls that he has loved.

You have to realize that this show is based on the comics. They brought Lois Lane into the show for a reason, that reason I am still waiting to see on this show. But I have the comics to go on and if they were to create a romance between Chloe and Clark, it would only screw up the superman mythology some more. The idea here is to make Chloe a person that is nothing like the Lois Lane of the future instead of making her a carbon copy of her. Maybe you don't care about this, and you are entitled to your opinion, but I would like to see at least some progress being made so that the show moves closer to the superman mythology. Yes this show is not the comics, but you don't bring Lois Lane into this show if you are planning to make Chloe possess all of Lois Lane's traits.

[LastFatherOfKrypton]

Originally posted by Dannyblue1
I'd be happy if Chloe and Clark remained good friends. However, I have to disagree with you on some things.

As has been pointed out, there's been ample evidence that Clark has, and still could, feel "that way" about Chloe. And not just in seasons 1 and 2, but seasons 3 and 4 as well.

But even if there had never, ever been any hint that Clark had or could feel "that way" about Chloe, that doesn't mean he couldn't develop feelings for her somewhere down the line. After all, it happens all the time in real life. Two friends have known each other forever, but never had romantic feelings for each other until five, ten years after they met. In fact, not only does that happen in real life, it's a pretty popular theme in countless movies, novels, songs, etc.

So, basically, the argument that Clark could never feel "that way" about Chloe because he never had in the past is false on two fronts.

Personally, I'm a little nervous about what the writers would do with a Chlark romance. But, if they did it well, I wouldn't mind seeing it at all.


I believe you hit on the nose there!

Yes! How true and in real life!!

But, I somehow in the pit of being, feel that Al Gough and Co., for some unknown reason "to some of us" would not do a "mutually romantic and poignant" Chlark.
:(

[hopeless]

Everything I seen so far suggests Lex is going to either kill Chloe himself or get someone else to do so.
The only way i can see them resolving all of the problems with Lex and others knowing is by Clark travelling back in time possibly using the solar sunspot aided power boost and preventing some of the original meteor shower so Lana's parents didn't die, whilst jumping back to his own time prevent the original car accident with Lex so that Lex seeing the pair of them together will never assume Clark is Superman and thereby no obsession with Clark who he won't associate with so will never know better.
Prevents JK's death since he and Lana won't be engaged and the pair will probably never meet as Lana has her parents and is never introduced to him.
JK heart problems stemmed from having to gain powers from Jor-el so Clark and his older version meet up in Metropolis and being older and more powerful he returns Clark before he goes too far on his crime rampage thereby insuring when he returns to his own time that he will have taken the steps necessary to protect those he loves and when the series ends it will see Lana who is now the one with the crush on Clark seeing him leave to go to Metroplis where Chloe is swiftly becoming a reporter using the pseudonym of her cousin and the only one at this point who know about Clark's secret is the Kents and possibly Pete which is how it should be.
Lana might find out but with all of the garbage Clark remembers of his past they never get together.

Sorry answered a previous message and didn't notice this isn't for that kind of thread.
If necessary please strike my previous message.

[LastFatherOfKrypton]

Somehow I do not believe Lex or his minions will murder Chloe!

There are consequences that Lex knows of and one of them is Chloe's Best Friend.....Clark Kent.

I positive Lex would not risk retribution from the one he has suspicions about having some sort of unique ablities to suffer at Clark's hand for murdering Chloe.

Lex is not that of a 2 Dimensional Villain.

[hopeless]

The problem I see coming is that Lex is slowly losing any morality and if he does gain enhanced intelligence then there my come the day he underestimates Clark and thereby creates my previous theory regarding the solution to this series.
He may not be two dimensional but his ego will keep him from realising some restraint must be necessary.
There was an old 2000AD comic strip where it dealt with someone with enhanced intelligence but not the capacity to cope with the upgrade, in that strips case they lost the capacity to understand fear specifically when it endangers himself.
In Lex's case he will soon forget that not everything can be coldly calculated and measured and that includes the fact he is already showing a definite lack of empathy which will only grow with his new power and empathy is Clark's greatest gift, it will keep him going when others falter, what Lex expects Clark exceeds and that will be lex's downfall.

[Kezz]

Personally I think that a relationship with Chloe towards the end of the show would be a stepping stone from Clark being a hometown boy wonder to being Superman.

There's just such a massive difference between Lana, who is his first love and Lois who we know that he ends up with, that there has to be someone between the two to bridge that gap and Chloe is the perfect person to do that. She would also be able to show him that he can be accepted for who and what he is if they got together soon and the show has set him up to become a reporter through her influence on him.

As for Lex I think it's perfectly believable that he would kill or have Chloe killed. He's become steadily colder and more calculating and he showed his utter disregard for her welfare at the end of the last season. Also I think it will get to the point that he will do just about anyhting to hurt Clark and if he and Chloe are together what better way to do just that?

What better a setup could there be to launch a super hero with a fondness for fearless reporters who despises a certain bald nemisis?