Opinions on Lana

[jimmyolsenblues]

I WOULD LIKE IT KNOWN FROM THIS DAY FORWARD AND FOREVER THAT I HATE LANA.

EOM

[eas]

Why? B/c of the kiss? Or b/c she got mad at Chloe for no reason?

[auxvis]

Both...that was just stupid...and then she just runs off...what is that?

[mech-anic]

ah, let her do her thing.....she needs to get some just like clark...i think clark needs some booty.

[SmallvilleFanBlue]

w00t, she kiss'd LEX

i'm exited to see how this all turns out

[Rafael122]

She got mad at Chloe. She basically says nothing will ever happen, yet she sucks him up like if Lex were a piece of salmon. Lana is a hypocrite.

[jimmyolsenblues]

kiss. I feel Lana is doing this specifically to hurt Clark, there are a lot guys for Lana to date who did not investigate and spy on Clark.

[HalJordan4184]

I find it funny, that with all Lana knows Lex has done, including manhandle her, and almost beat her up over that stone, that she ran to him, and somehow trusts him completely.

She's just horribly written as a character.

[photogirl]

I've always disliked lana....this just made me not like her more!!

[myankskent]

That was such a stupid ending scene. There was absolutely no buildup and no reason for the kiss at the end. What a forced storyline. It's clear TPTB just wanted to throw it in to cause some trouble.

[redraven]

Lana is officially on crack. She was such a stupid idiot in that episode :rolleyes:

[casfetes]

and trouble did it cause.

[prometheus04]

Does anyone remember Whitney or Jason, this is what she does.

She's just not a good person...

It's always Christmas for her HO-HO-HO...

[SmallvilleFanBlue]

Ive personally never liked Lana....
She thinks the world revolves around her, she hated when people get into her life, yet she sometimes does it herself, however, she's actually a good match for Lex, Lana strikes me as a girl when she wants something she gets it, just like Lex :)
hence the reason this actually excites me.. LEXANA :)

[shaula luthor]

You all are not alone..
I HATE Lana too. Very much!

[Theshadow129x]

I personally loved the episode and also loved the fact we barely saw lana in the episode. yeah she is a hypocrite for that she's only doing it because one she wants to get back at clark and two she is vulnerable right now.

[FallenStar]

I have always hated Lana. Now I just want her to die. Slowly.

[eas]

Yeah, they've totally made her a very unlikable character. Why was she getting all mad at Chloe? That was mean -- her friend was just looking out for her. And the way she's playing Lex.

Frankly, I don't even think she was needed in this episode.

[shinedown]

people think she ran off because she's scared but i think that she is still their. the next episode will open up with both of them in lexs bed naked. mark my words. she's still there, the look on lexs face at the end implied that.

[myankskent]

Originally posted by eas
Yeah, they've totally made her a very unlikable character. Why was she getting all mad at Chloe? That was mean -- her friend was just looking out for her. And the way she's playing Lex.

Frankly, I don't even think she was needed in this episode.

She was right to get angry at Chloe because she would've rather had Chloe go directly to her rather than going to Lex. But you're right, Lex and Lana were totals wastes in this show.

[MBCorp]

She kept insisting that she had no feelings for Lex and then she kisses him. Okay, I get that they're trying to make Lana look like she's not in her right mind because she's all upset about the breakup, but god! What a confusing mess of a character.

[shaula luthor]

She IS a mess..... lol

[Slytherin Princess]

i don't care what you guys say, but that was definitely not a rebound.

[redraven]

I don't care what YOU guys say, it was definitely a rebound.

[Clark's Angel]

I liked the Lexana story line, and I'm not either a Lexana hater not shipper, just a viewer who mainly likes all the characters. I thought it was understandable - Lana got upset at Chloe because, wrong though she might feel it is, she feels the attraction between her and Lex, which is why she denied it so vehemently. Nevertheless, that is also why what happened did happen at the end. Lana feels it's wrong to like Lex, and I believe, in some way, doubted that a man like Lex would return the feeling. But the attraction is there, and it is obvious, and so she gave in and they kissed. I didn't feel like it was forced at all, but rather powerful.

[sstray72]

Originally posted by jimmyolsenblues
I WOULD LIKE IT KNOWN FROM THIS DAY FORWARD AND FOREVER THAT I HATE LANA.

EOM

What took you so long??? :lol:

[Xsmallville_obsessedX]

I Love Lana:D....*runs away to avoid being shot at*

[angelfire east]

Originally posted by HalJordan4184
I find it funny, that with all Lana knows Lex has done, including manhandle her, and almost beat her up over that stone, that she ran to him, and somehow trusts him completely.

She's just horribly written as a character.

Agreed

[afro_maestro]

so explain how the hell that wasn't a rebound?


i want Lana to get smurfing sliced by that smurfin kid wit the glass control. Cut her the smurf up. Cheating biznatch.

[Slytherin Princess]

Originally posted by Clark's Angel
I liked the Lexana story line, and I'm not either a Lexana hater not shipper, just a viewer who mainly likes all the characters. I thought it was understandable - Lana got upset at Chloe because, wrong though she might feel it is, she feels the attraction between her and Lex, which is why she denied it so vehemently. Nevertheless, that is also why what happened did happen at the end. Lana feels it's wrong to like Lex, and I believe, in some way, doubted that a man like Lex would return the feeling. But the attraction is there, and it is obvious, and so she gave in and they kissed. I didn't feel like it was forced at all, but rather powerful.

so true, so true. :D

[jimmyolsenblues]

Umm hello, don't you remember on Jan 26th , Clark told her everything and she still ran to lex. No thank you, Good day Sir. You Lose!

[afro_maestro]

i disagree. Her past HISTORY of Lex should teach her better. WAsn't she the one that stormed up in his house in "Hidden" sayin Clark was normal and Lex should back off??? If ur doing it to hurt Clark, then don't go off on Chloe about it.


"U couldn't embarrass me any more".....dumb *****.

(p.s i disagreed with the post BEFORE u, on the previous page)

[angelfire east]

Originally posted by shinedown
people think she ran off because she's scared but i think that she is still their. the next episode will open up with both of them in lexs bed naked. mark my words. she's still there, the look on lexs face at the end implied that.

You know for a second I thought she was laying down ont he floor about to pull Lex will her to try for 'sex in front of the fire place take 2':lol:

[clarksmuse]

I don't hate Lana. I just think she is confused. And I would have to agree with others in this thread that she is on the rebound... having your heart smashed into a million pieces will do that to you. :P

[OutlawAngel]

I was actually ok with the Lexana thing (I dont ship nor dislike it) but that ending was stupid. Why did she run off the screen like that?? Wouldnt it of been better to just have her and Lex stare at each other for a moment and then the scene fade out or something?

And why do all episodes have to end with Lana? I didnt know this show was all about her. I mean I have been told that before but I never really thought about it until now.

And this is just how Lana falls for guys. I think she gets bored with them fast. She went from Whitney to Clark then to Adam and back to Clark and then to Jason and then back to Clark so now she is with Lex

She cant ever stay with a guy for long. She seems to get bored and then go back to the guy that she will truely never be able to accept because of the secrets and lies. The girl really is a mess.

[afro_maestro]

tru, man they MADE Lana to be hated. Like how could u LIKE such a character. If a freak meteor shower killed her, i'd laugh and tape it. And watch it over and over again.

[shaula luthor]

So she´s confuse since season 01... lol....
Sorry, it´s not a apologie for me

[clarksmuse]

Originally posted by OutlawAngel



And this is just how Lana falls for guys. I think she gets bored with them fast. She went from Whitney to Clark then to Adam and back to Clark and then to Jason and then back to Clark so now she is with Lex



... and unfortunately, based on this pattern with men, Lana'll probably go back to pining after Clark. Whew... I don't think I can keep up!

[Krypton935]

I agree i always hated Lana but of course she was ok in the 1st season

[afro_maestro]

man, i think i'm transferrin my hate to the real Kristin Kreuk. I'm gonna stop with the Lana-hating or i might be tempted to attack Kristin Kreuk, lol. W/e, its agreed that the girl is gigantic mess...........and a dumb bich. Done

[shinedown]

a lot of people do that but unlike you they dont realize they do so they just end up being really stupid and mean to k.k.

[LastingChlarker]

I didn't mind the kiss, or Lana kissing Lex to be more exact. But I did think her getting mad at Chloe was rather unnecessary.

[shaula luthor]

Originally posted by OutlawAngel
I was actually ok with the Lexana thing (I dont ship nor dislike it) but that ending was stupid. Why did she run off the screen like that?? Wouldnt it of been better to just have her and Lex stare at each other for a moment and then the scene fade out or something?

And why do all episodes have to end with Lana? I didnt know this show was all about her. I mean I have been told that before but I never really thought about it until now.

And this is just how Lana falls for guys. I think she gets bored with them fast. She went from Whitney to Clark then to Adam and back to Clark and then to Jason and then back to Clark so now she is with Lex

She cant ever stay with a guy for long. She seems to get bored and then go back to the guy that she will truely never be able to accept because of the secrets and lies. The girl really is a mess.

You read my mind....!

I like Kristin K. Really. But Lana Lang..... ewwwwwwwwwwwww

[thehenry89]

what horrible things can i say about lana that have'nt already been said, she's an indescive C*&^ tease and poor lex is the next victim.

[Shadow09]

I hate how Lana's character has gone from being really innocent and sweet. To know being very aggresive with Chloe during their talk at the Daily Planet, of course Chloe's remark of the last place she would be was not nice either.

But I am not liking how Lana has become with spending lots of time with Lex, she will turn into the female Luthor... bad sight to see.

[SmallvilleMan]

Oh, here they come in bunches. The lana haters, hear them roar:rolleyes: First off, Lana isn't a Ho. I don't think anyone who calls Lana that, knows what a Ho is, imo. Secondly, Lana wants to be with Clark! That's who she wants to be with! Any other guy is just another guy to her, if it isn't Clark. You say Lana goes from guy to guy? That is completely untrue. She's had 3 boyfriends in her whole life. How can someone with three boyfriends in her life, go from guy to guy? She's not that kind of person. If Clark didn't break up with her, she would be with him, because that's who she wants. ONE GUY! The one she loves. This is really funny to me how Im really not liking the Lana character right now and yet here I am defending her.

[MBCorp]

Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
Oh, here they come in bunches. The lana haters, hear them roar:rolleyes: First off, Lana isn't a Ho. I don't think anyone who calls Lana that, knows what a Ho is, imo. Secondly, Lana wants to be with Clark! That's who she wants to be with! Any other guy is just another guy to her, if it isn't Clark. You say Lana goes from guy to guy? That is completely untrue. She's had 3 boyfriends in her whole life. How can someone with three boyfriends in her life, go from guy to guy? She's not that kind of person. If Clark didn't break up with her, she would be with him, because that's who she wants. ONE GUY! The one she loves. This is really funny to me how Im really not liking the Lana character right now and yet here I am defending her.

It would be weird to see you not defend Lana, SmallvilleMan.;)

[supergurl88]

all her boyfriends expect clark are dead! let her go with lex she's only hurting herself.

[SmallvilleMan]

It would be weird to see you not defend Lana, SmallvilleMan.

First off, someone has to and I like defending those who don't deserve the blame for such things. Secondly, I DON'T WANT TO DEFEND LANA NOW. I'm hating the way she's acting, more so im hating the writing. But off course I'm not allowed to hate Lana, because she's being called out for things she isn't.

[superman_115]

I didn't know if I was watching Smallville or 7th heaven.

I am so tired of this corny crap they have Lana doing.

The only thing that would make me like Lana is to see a meteor come down from Jor-El and smash her 60 feet under.

[SmallvilleMan]

:rolleyes:

[Kalel x2x2]

eh i dont hate hate her, shes to beautiful for me to hate her, lol

[Aloof]

Lana shouldn't be with Clark. Too much Clana drama. It's OUR turn, the Lexana fans turns! :D

[suave_man]

Isn't this thread character bashing? Is this allowed?

[SmallvilleMan]

Isn't this thread character bashing? Is this allowed?

I don't really know man. I mean, I got in trouble for bashing Chloe before, yet there's a whole thread bashing Lana. You'd have to ask the moderators. But usually, Lana bashing happens all the time.


Lana shouldn't be with Clark. Too much Clana drama. It's OUR turn, the Lexana fans turns!

Turn for what? Ickyness:p

[Aloof]

Turn for hotness, evilness! :D

[clarksmuse]

I'm not a Lana-hater. I don't hate any of the characters on SV... I'm just not sure what the writers are doing with Lana at this point. She seems lost, confused... much like someone after a breakup.

[SmallvilleMan]

No, only Chlana would be hot for me;)

[Aloof]

Of course, Chlana would be hot to most guys. XD

[SmallvilleMan]

I'm just not sure what the writers are doing with Lana at this point. She seems lost, confused... much like someone after a breakup.

Join the club, they have no clue about her character.

[Big Albowski]

I changed thread title to show a more open discussion option!

IF YOU CANNOT DISCUSS THIS TOPIC RATIONALLY AND WITHOUT PETTY PICKERING.... DON'T POST HERE!

Al

[charmedchick]

I agree. what lana did to chloe was a little uncalled for.

lana really has changed alot. she isnt that pretty in pink good girl anymore.


watchout

[sstray72]

Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
No, only Chlana would be hot for me;)

I finally can agree with you on something, SmallvilleMan. :lol:

[ferd]

:lol: :lol: :lol:

No no--it's about the Clex. ;) :p Clark needs to run to Lex for a rebound. :lol: :p

[SmallvilleMan]

I must confess, that is my favorite ship at heart:cool: Or maybe I shouldn't say at heart, but I'm not sure the other word would be approiate:eek:

[LuckyKrypto]

Originally posted by charmedchick

lana really has changed alot. she isnt that pretty in pink good girl anymore.


I think we all knew Lana had it in her;)
I mean really, nobody is that good.....
are they?

[ma200]

Originally posted by ferd
:lol: :lol: :lol:

No no--it's about the Clex. ;) :p Clark needs to run to Lex for a rebound. :lol: :p


Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
I must confess, that is my favorite ship at heart:cool: Or maybe I shouldn't say at heart, but I'm not sure the other word would be approiate:eek:

Clark and Lex? :lol:

kidding, i'm kidding!! :rotfl:

[aqua]

If anyone could explain to me what, if anything, is going through Lana's head, that would be great. She is sucumbing to a relationship with a man who abused her and her "best friend" (I use the term loosely because she seems to not care that Chloe is sticking up for her), denied she had feelings for him, and kissed him.

Lana is the most pathetic mess of a character I have ever seen. The writers are failing miserably in their jobs.

[Shadowknight]

Originally posted by aqua
If anyone could explain to me what, if anything, is going through Lana's head, that would be great. She is sucumbing to a relationship with a man who abused her and her "best friend" (I use the term loosely because she seems to not care that Chloe is sticking up for her), denied she had feelings for him, and kissed him.

Lana is the most pathetic mess of a character I have ever seen. The writers are failing miserably in their jobs.


I agree completely, think back at Mortal/Hidden and think of now, the whole Lexana thing was rushed. One second she was hating Lex next she is planting a wet one on him, doing drugs and insulting her one true friend? Please

Gah, this is all annoying

[angelfire east]

Originally posted by aqua
If anyone could explain to me what, if anything, is going through Lana's head, that would be great. She is sucumbing to a relationship with a man who abused her and her "best friend" (I use the term loosely because she seems to not care that Chloe is sticking up for her), denied she had feelings for him, and kissed him.

Lana is the most pathetic mess of a character I have ever seen. The writers are failing miserably in their jobs.

Agreed

[xrayvision]

I guess Lana chose not to be thrown away with the rest of the trash as evil Lex so eloquently stated in Onyx.

At least Lex has a nice fireplace so Lana won't have to light 100's of candles when they get down & dirty.

I'm really surprised how she hasn't turned into a psycho-crazed junkie b--ch like Sharon Stone's character in Casino. Now that was one hell of a transformation (for those of you who have seen that movie). I think Lana should have been there by now.

[shaula luthor]

Originally posted by aqua
If anyone could explain to me what, if anything, is going through Lana's head, that would be great. She is sucumbing to a relationship with a man who abused her and her "best friend" (I use the term loosely because she seems to not care that Chloe is sticking up for her), denied she had feelings for him, and kissed him.

Lana is the most pathetic mess of a character I have ever seen. The writers are failing miserably in their jobs.
Completelly agreed!!!!!

[SmallvilleMan]

If anyone could explain to me what, if anything, is going through Lana's head, that would be great. She is sucumbing to a relationship with a man who abused her and her "best friend" (I use the term loosely because she seems to not care that Chloe is sticking up for her), denied she had feelings for him, and kissed him.

Couldn't tell ya, just horrible writing. They want to destroy her character i guess.

[BadToad]

I don't hate Lana, but this whole storyline thread is doing absolutely nothing for her character. She looks childish, she looks clueless, she looks like she's rebounding. And yeah, I get the vague whiff of her trying to hurt Clark. And, IMO, that was a pretty awkward kiss.

But on the bright side, she wasn't in this episode a lot. Might be why I liked it so much :)

[Shadowknight]

Since Reckoning Lana has become less and less tolerable by me..... the writing is just awful, and she is really getting on my last nerve....

[fifi1277]

I’ve never hated a fictional character that much as I hated Lana Lang.

[88carrera]

What I don't understand is how Clark and Lex are no longer friends; Chloe and Lex are enemies-but Lana considers Lex a trusted friend.

If two of your most trusted friends (one of them since you were a child) are now antagonists with your third friend...umm like you would immediately!

I always excused Lana for her holier-than-thou behavior since she is a hottie, but I now officially hate her and wish they would write her off the show.

[MuchaLana]

No...i officially still hate Clark for what he did in Hypnotic. I was actually hoping for Clark to show up at luthor mansion when Lana was kissing Lex...oh well am sure it will come one day. Hurt him Lana...hurt him...that BDA.. :lol: Even though Lana will only hurt herself more...but Clark is definitely my least favorite character. Where the heck is superman?:p

[mikemike]

i've never disliked her as much as i do now.

and ive always been pro-lana. check my old posts.

[shaula luthor]

She hurted Clark so many times...... She deserves to suffer. Very much!

[lastdaughterofkrypton]

Originally posted by clarksmuse
... and unfortunately, based on this pattern with men, Lana'll probably go back to pining after Clark. Whew... I don't think I can keep up!
My hope is that by the time this happens Clark is totally over her and says NO WAY!
I dare to dream :)

[JasonsLea]

LMAO! I've always hated Lana. She was annoying as always today.

[Kal-El 2005]

I've hated Lana since the beginning of Season 3 maybe.
Or was it when Clark left Chloe at the dance at the end of season 1.... hmm...

I HAVE to change my avatar!

[savingpeoplething]

Glad I am not alone!
Lana gets on my last nerve. I guess growing up the way she did might have caused her to be independent, but geez, I would LOVE to have a friend of mine show concern for me like Chloe did. You would have to start questioning things if Chloe HADN'T said anything.
I said it in another thread, but it's worth repeating...
Lana's a punk and Chloe needs to let her go as a friend.
Bring on the Chlark vs. Lexana :)

[cotton candy girl]

Hate threads are against the rules. I distinctly remember another hate thread dedicated to a different character being closed or deleted earlier this season.

[F-Stop Blues]

Originally posted by cotton candy girl
Hate threads, which Kryptonsite classifies as fan camp threads, are against the rules.


This isnt a hate thread. Its a thread about how you feel about Lana after her actions in this ep.

Actually it is leaning towards a hate thread. It will probably be closed soon.

[cotton candy girl]

Well, after an earlier episode this season, a person started a Chloe hate thread, and it disappeared.

[F-Stop Blues]

Yeah you're right it will probably get closed since almost everyone hates lana at this point.

[cotton candy girl]

Right. Almost everyone. :rolleyes:

[F-Stop Blues]

Its just so easy to hate her character. She's so unstable and needs someone to take care of her. It just bothers me.

[cotton candy girl]

It bothers me that TPTB write Chloe's character so stellar at times compared to Lana's. Here's Chloe being all chivalrous, trying to protect her friend from Lex, and Lana acts like a jerk. It kinda makes me think they're doing this on purpose. How could anyone say that TPTB love Lana?

I can't take up much for her but to say that we've seen many times on tv where a friend will try to warn about a jerk, and the other friend doesn't listen and ends up coming back to apologize later. I hope Lana does.

EDIT: Nevertheless, I don't blame Lana for being a little upset that Chloe didn't come to her first.

[savingpeoplething]

The way Lana acted in "Fragile" was somewhat expected. I didn't think she would be as HARSH as she was to Chloe, but she's never really trusted Chloe and has never really been that great of a friend to her, so in that respect, I sort of expected Lana to be a jerk about it.
Plus, I think Lana's a little jealous of how close Chloe is with Clark, which might have something to do with the way she's acting towards her now, post-breakup.

[cotton candy girl]

Well what I find odd then, is how Chloe seems to feel so close to Lana that she went to Lex and said he'd have to deal with her if he hurt Lana. I didn't think Lana and Chloe were that close. If they're not too close, why would Chloe approach a dangerous idiot like Lex instead of Lana herself? Then Lana would have been able to tell Chloe she's fine.

And if I were Lana, I'd be jealous too.

[F-Stop Blues]

The thing is that I'm for the Lexana but I know that it wont happen the way I want. I want either Lex to fully use her and then kick her to the side when he's done. Or I want Lana to help Lex learn more about Clark. But we all know thats not going to happen. Clark will warn Lana about Lex, she'll get all defensive then she'll find out about something bad that he's doing and run back to Clark....and now we're back to where we've started.

[cotton candy girl]

TPTB did leave the door open for Clana. They didn't really close the door, imo. Closing the door would have been Clark and Lana realizing that they just aren't meant for each other. They've never really had that honest talk yet, and I think it's still going to happen; I think we will be back where we started.

[angelfire east]

Don't forgot anything bad that comes from lexana will all be the big bad Luthor is manipulating the brainless fool *oops I forgot* I mean poor innocent vulnerable victim Lana.

Has all those times she been knocked out really finally getting to her? She's got no memory at all. She trusts Lex (remember what happened with the stones), pays no hid to Chloe's warning. (no matter how many times Chloe has had a hand in saving her life)

You post faster then me :lol:


Originally posted by cotton candy girl
TPTB did leave the door open for Clana. They didn't really close the door, imo. Closing the door would have been Clark and Lana realizing that they just aren't meant for each other. They've never really had that honest talk yet, and I think it's still going to happen; I think we will be back where we started.

Agreed, IMO clana will not end till the end of the show, if that. :mad: Anyway clana angst will be draged out till the show is over as I bet lexana will.

[dhacker615]

Originally posted by HalJordan4184
I find it funny, that with all Lana knows Lex has done, including manhandle her, and almost beat her up over that stone, that she ran to him, and somehow trusts him completely.

She's just horribly written as a character.

They cannot seem to remember her history, can they?

It is a problem a lot this season with Lionel-Martha, Chloe-Lionel, Lex-Lana. It feels like they hired a bunch of new writers that have never watched the show.

[Batman_Beyonder]

Originally posted by HalJordan4184
I find it funny, that with all Lana knows Lex has done, including manhandle her, and almost beat her up over that stone, that she ran to him, and somehow trusts him completely.

She's just horribly written as a character.

You and me both buddy.

[dhacker615]

Originally posted by cotton candy girl
It bothers me that TPTB write Chloe's character so stellar at times compared to Lana's. Here's Chloe being all chivalrous, trying to protect her friend from Lex, and Lana acts like a jerk. It kinda makes me think they're doing this on purpose. How could anyone say that TPTB love Lana?

Chloe is totally two-dimensional at this point. She is the perfect friend with the bottomless laptop.

[angelfire east]

Originally posted by cotton candy girl
Well what I find odd then, is how Chloe seems to feel so close to Lana that she went to Lex and said he'd have to deal with her if he hurt Lana. I didn't think Lana and Chloe were that close. If they're not too close, why would Chloe approach a dangerous idiot like Lex instead of Lana herself? Then Lana would have been able to tell Chloe she's fine.

And if I were Lana, I'd be jealous too.

We do know Chloe thinks of Lana as a siser from season 2 and we haven't seen anything from Chloe to say that has chaneged.

As Kryptonian Snake in another thread about this topic.


Chloe was pretty much in a lose-lose situation with Lana on this issue. If she had talked to Lana directly, the issue would have been dismissed and Lana probably would have gotten defensive if Chloe remained skeptical and pushed the issue. Chloe goes to Lex instead of Lana, and Lana still gets upset. I think she'd be wise to wash her hands of the whole thing since Lana now knows her opinion of Lex.

[JasonsLea]

Originally posted by savingpeoplething

Lana's a punk and Chloe needs to let her go as a friend.


Amen!

[cotton candy girl]

Originally posted by dhacker615
Chloe is totally two-dimensional at this point. She is the perfect friend with the bottomless laptop.

I know. What about her flaws? Lately the future Superman even pales in comparison to her heroism. :rolleyes:

[JasonsLea]

Originally posted by F-Stop Blues
Its just so easy to hate her character. She's so unstable and needs someone to take care of her. It just bothers me.

Me too. The Poor Wittle Pink Pwincess act irks me to no end.

[angelfire east]

Originally posted by cotton candy girl
It bothers me that TPTB write Chloe's character so stellar at times compared to Lana's. Here's Chloe being all chivalrous, trying to protect her friend from Lex, and Lana acts like a jerk. It kinda makes me think they're doing this on purpose.

Kinda like what they did with Lana and Chloe in season 2? Chloe was made to have no back bone then made the deal with Lionel when lana was made too look like the girl who can do no wrong at times?

Now I have a problem with the way Chloe is saving the day almost every episode and is a endless, fast soruce for info in everything; not to mention all she is there just to listen to Clark whiny. This is the first thing is a while that is kind a intersting to me with Chloe (taking on another Luthor).

Chloe can't win, in the spoiler section posters were going on that Chloe btter say/do something about Lex when it comes to what he's doing with Lana and if she doesn't she the worse most horrible person in the world and the worse friend blah blah blah. And now I'm reading posts that are all down on what Chloe did. Chloe can't win.

[JasonsLea]

Originally posted by cotton candy girl
I know. What about her flaws? Lately the future Superman even pales in comparison to her heroism. :rolleyes:

Her main flaw in my opinion is that she can be SO blind! Lana is not a true friend and neither is Clark. Yet she's always defending them, looking out for them even though she's always getting burned because of them. WTF?

[cotton candy girl]

Originally posted by JasonsLea
The Poor Wittle Pink Pwincess act irks me to no end.

Where's the pink, first of all?

What act?

[JasonsLea]

Originally posted by angelfire east
Chloe can't win.

I know. And it SUCKS! :mad:


Originally posted by cotton candy girl
Where's the pink, first of all?

What act?

Figure of speech honey. When I see Lana, I think pink and that's not a good thing. And the 'act' is how she is. This whole I'm independent but not really, I always need a man, I always need reassurance that I'm perfect, I can never do any wrong, worship me, blah blah ********. That's how she comes off to me. You obviously see her completey different. :)

[cotton candy girl]

Originally posted by JasonsLea

Figure of speech honey. When I see Lana, I think pink and that's not a good thing. And the 'act' is how she is. This whole I'm independent but not really, I always need a man, I always need reassurance that I'm perfect, I can never do any wrong, worship me, blah blah. That's how she comes off to me. You obviously see her completey different. :)

First of all, don't ever call me honey; you don't know me. Second of all, where's the pink? Where'd the whole idea of pink come from in this figure of speech? At least you explained what you meant by princess, but I do see her completely different than you. Also, profanity is actually against the rules.

[Kriminal]

lana looked like she was telling herself that she didnt like lex but after the first kiss she just couldnt get enough and it probably surprised her and thats why she just took off like that.

[JasonsLea]

Originally posted by cotton candy girl
First of all, don't ever call me honey; you don't know me. Second of all, where's the pink? Where'd the whole idea of pink come from in this expression? At least you explained what you meant about the princess part, but I do see her completely different than you. Also, profanity is actually against the rules.

Well excuse me SORRY! I was trying to be nice. Just forget it. :rolleyes:

[cotton candy girl]

I guess I misinterpreted that particular part of your post as sarcasm. Sorry. :\

[JasonsLea]

Okay. Usually you'll know when I'm being a smartass. I'll never put a smilie on there. :)

Umm, about the pink, that's kinda a personal thing. Pink always represented evil to me. LOL

[cotton candy girl]

That's why I said THAT particular part. :)

When was the last time Lana wore pink?

[JasonsLea]

I have no idea! LOL But she'll always be the pink princess to me. I can't shake that off!

[treker]

Originally posted by redraven
Lana is officially on crack. She was such a stupid idiot in that episode :rolleyes:

Leading up to this episdoe I was as disgusted as you. However, i sense an undertone that will lead to the end of Lexana before it even begins. Watch it again. You will see that she kissed him on the spur of the moment and immediately regreted it. She will realize that a relationship with Lex will not only destroy her but alienate every friend she has....

[Tomswife]

gosh I hate her so much right now :mad:

I like Kristin ,I really do, but I just HATE what the writers are doing to her caracter. They are making her look weak, desperate and I just can't understand why Lana would suddenly jump into Lex*wtf*..She has just got out of a relationship with Clark (whom she claims to have loved so much) why does she walk into another one so quickly? It doesn't make any sense at all! I used to like Lana in Season 1-4 and at the beginning of this season but with all this Lex crap I've lost all respect for her. (I really hate to admit this but its the way I feel about her now) :(

[treker]

Originally posted by Tomswife
gosh I hate her so much right now :mad:

I like Kristin ,I really do, but I just HATE what the writers are doing to her caracter. They are making her look weak, desperate and I just can't understand why Lana would suddenly jump into Lex*wtf*..She has just got out of a relationship with Clark (whom she claims to have loved so much) why does she walk into another one so quickly? It doesn't make any sense at all! I used to like Lana in Season 1-4 and at the beginning of this season but with all this Lex crap I've lost all respect for her. (I really hate to admit this but its the way I feel about her now) :(


I hate a moment of clarity after watching the show tonight....I hated the lexana...but, not as bad as I thought it would be. Because they protrayed Lana as not wanting ti kiss lex, but she did because she was attracted to him and then afterwards realized what a mistake it was.

Further, I think this is the way to truly cause Clark to hate Lex. Lex will hurt Lana badly by the end of the season which will push Clark over the edge.

[Tomswife]

Originally posted by treker
I hate a moment of clarity after watching the show tonight....I hated the lexana...but, not as bad as I thought it would be. Because they protrayed Lana as not wanting ti kiss lex, but she did because she was attracted to him and then afterwards realized what a mistake it was.
I hope you're right..... but if Lana actual has romantic feelings for lex then I'm officially done with that show


Originally posted by treker

Further, I think this is the way to truly cause Clark to hate Lex. Lex will hurt Lana badly by the end of the season which will push Clark over the edge.
Maybe so but that still will not change the fact that she just moved on to the next man. :mad: The creators of this show has truly not portrayed women very well :confused:

[Timester]

Can I simply copy-paste my posts from season 3? It's way easier that going through this all over again. ;)

But I simply want to correct two things. One, Lana was always like this, ALWAYS. This wasn't nothing absolutelly new, we already talk about these kind of Lana attitudes for 3-4 years now. Two, you can't separate the character from the writing. If you hate the writing, than you also hate the character.

Now I'll leave a question, just because she does the exact same things with Lexana that she always done back with Clana, makes that a different character?

[Pal-El]

Originally posted by Timester
Can I simply copy-paste my posts from season 3? It's way easier that going through this all over again. ;)

But I simply want to correct two things. One, Lana was always like this, ALWAYS. This wasn't nothing absolutelly new, we already talk about these kind of Lana attitudes for 3-4 years now. Two, you can't separate the character from the writing. If you hate the writing, than you also hate the character.

Now I'll leave a question, just because she does the exact same things with Lexana that she always done back with Clana, makes that a different character?

Nope.

[Shadow116]

The kiss was a fake I think it might not have happened because Ms. Lang was there one minute and gone no footstep sounds at all I think that kiss back Lana gave Lex didn't happen.

But I extremely dislike Lana,I don't hate any of the characters ;).

[Quadrotriticale]

the whole lex - lana thing is rediculous. After everything the guy has done how can she trust him? She's just a terrible written character.

[Tomswife]

Originally posted by Quadrotriticale
the whole lex - lana thing is rediculous. She's just a terrible written character.
I totally agree with you.

[Shadowknight]

I have to agree with Timester, hate the writing, hate the character. I remember when Chloe went evil in S2/S3 everyone was angry, and the pro-Chloes came and said "It was just bad writing. Chloe wouldn't do that" :rolleyes:

I am not pro-anything anymore, except for Superman and Lex Luthor, I watch the show for plot devevopment now, forget the ships......and Lana, bleh she honestly is getting me close to hatred towards her.:\

[SnarkMasterJ]

I fancied myself hating Lana for a very long time -- now I'm just at the point of pitying her. She's just so dumb...dumb as a box of rocks with no rocks inside. There are times that I might even be tempted to feel sorry for her because she's so poorly written. But then I remember I never really liked her when she was moderately well-written anyway, so...draw your own conclusions.

[Watching Smallville]

Originally posted by Timester
Can I simply copy-paste my posts from season 3? It's way easier that going through this all over again. ;)

But I simply want to correct two things. One, Lana was always like this, ALWAYS. This wasn't nothing absolutelly new, we already talk about these kind of Lana attitudes for 3-4 years now. Two, you can't separate the character from the writing. If you hate the writing, than you also hate the character.

Now I'll leave a question, just because she does the exact same things with Lexana that she always done back with Clana, makes that a different character?
I think you're absolutely right. I think Lana has been this way since we first met her in Season 1. I've always thought her character was hard-headed, judgmental, and hard on her friends when she disagreed with them. So I don't feel any differently about her. If anything, she seems more insecure now than she did in high school, which makes sense. She's not the most popular girl in class any more, she's trying to make it on her own. And so far, she's not doing so well.

Lana always had good qualities, too, though, which I thought made her character interesting. We haven't seen those qualities lately. We probably won't see tham again until she gets away from Lex.

[Kryptonian Snake]

Originally posted by Timester
But I simply want to correct two things. One, Lana was always like this, ALWAYS. This wasn't nothing absolutelly new, we already talk about these kind of Lana attitudes for 3-4 years now.
Exactly. Lana has always bitten people's heads off when they do something she doesn't like, and everyone on the show aside from Lois and Martha has had her snap at them.

I don't really hate Lana since I don't really have strong feelings for any of the characters one way or the other. find Lana's confusion/naivete/stupidity (pick your adjective) kind of amusing at this point, much like I thought Clark's whiny attitude in Lockdown was amusing. Lana's definitely a mess, but looking back at previous seasons, that's always been true to an extent. Besides all that, I kind of enjoy those antagonistic conversations between the characters, even if one of them is completely off-base.

[muffinpeddler]

Lana is a :Hypocrital, pink pansy who demands truth from others and lies to herself. She has the nerve to tell Chloe she has no interest in Lex and then play tonsil hockey with the biggest liar on the face of the Earth the next time she sees him. She is consistently changing her stance on everything, she was gonna break up with Clark, but since he did it before she could she has the nerve to feel "Neglected" enough to drive her to a drug addiction that got Clark and Lex killed, albeit the fact they returned to the living. The writers don't seem to know who Lana is and I think it's making Kristen's job more difficult.

[myankskent]

Originally posted by Shadow116
The kiss was a fake I think it might not have happened because Ms. Lang was there one minute and gone no footstep sounds at all I think that kiss back Lana gave Lex didn't happen.

But I extremely dislike Lana,I don't hate any of the characters ;).

I've been hearing this a lot from people that the kiss was a dream. I went back to watch the scene and you're right, there were no footsteps, we never saw Lana leaving the room and the door never opened and closed. The door to that room is always closed so at the very least, we would have heard Lana opening the door to leave the room.

[Watching Smallville]

If that kiss was a dream, I give up on thinking anything I see on this show is real.

[SmallvilleMan]

But I simply want to correct two things. One, Lana was always like this, ALWAYS. This wasn't nothing absolutelly new, we already talk about these kind of Lana attitudes for 3-4 years now. Two, you can't separate the character from the writing. If you hate the writing, than you also hate the character.

No, Lana was never like this. Lana was never a drug addict, she never called Chloe out like she did before. I love how all the lana haters come out now that there is a really big legit reason to hate her and say she's been like this all along. When she hasn't.

[Kryptonian Snake]

Originally posted by myankskent
I've been hearing this a lot from people that the kiss was a dream. I went back to watch the scene and you're right, there were no footsteps, we never saw Lana leaving the room and the door never opened and closed. The door to that room is always closed so at the very least, we would have heard Lana opening the door to leave the room.
I clearly heard footsteps when she ran off. I think I also heard the door creak open.

[myankskent]

Originally posted by Watching Smallville
If that kiss was a dream, I give up on thinking anything I see on this show is real.

Well I can't say it was a dream for sure, obviously, but that whole scene was weird. She out of the blue kissed him after preaching that there was nothing more than friendship between them and then right after the kiss, you see Lana back away and they cut to the overhead shot where Lana is nowhere to be found and Lex is left standing there. No sound of Lana running off after that strange sequence of events has me wondering.

[Kryptonian Snake]

Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
No, Lana was never like this. Lana was never a drug addict, she never called Chloe out like she did before. I love how all the lana haters come out now that there is a really big legit reason to hate her and say she's been like this all along. When she hasn't.
She did snap at Chloe in season 3 for keeping Clark's whereabouts a secret, and Lana has always snapped at people when they hide things from her or do things behind her back to "protect" her. She snapped at Lex last season for asking Jason to spy on her and she got upset with Jason for lying to her about going to China. Being a "junkie" thing was a new one, though.

[SmallvilleMan]

It wasn't a dream, guarantee it.

[myankskent]

Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
It wasn't a dream, guarantee it.

Yeah, I'd like to retract my earlier statement, there were footsteps in that scene. I listened to it on my home theater system and heard them.

[SmallvilleMan]

She did snap at Chloe in season 3 for keeping Clark's whereabouts a secret, and Lana has always snapped at people when they hide things from her or do things behind her back to "protect" her. She snapped at Lex last season for asking Jason to spy on her and she got upset with Jason for lying to her about going to China. Being a "junkie" thing was a new one, though.

Did she not have the right to be upset at Chloe for that? Lana was crying her eyes out all summer worrying about where Clark was. Not to mention, according to their conversation Lana had to apologize to Chloe over and over again for keeping her and Clark's relationship a secret for those two whole days they were together. So again, I ask why shouldn't be upset about that? Chloe deserved it, especially if she flipped out about being kept in the dark about something that really isn't any of her business. The same thing for her snapping at Lex, what you expect someone to do when her so called friend ask your boyfriend to spy on her? Or when your boyfriend all of a sudden goes to China without telling you to find a stone that connects to the tattoo you have on your body? What do you expect Lana to do in those cases? She did what anyone would do. Snapping at Chloe in Fragile WASN'T justifyed, but all the ones above were very much justifyed.

[myankskent]

Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
Did she not have the right to be upset at Chloe for that? Lana was crying her eyes out all summer worrying about where Clark was. Not to mention, according to their conversation Lana had to apologize to Chloe over and over again for keeping her and Clark's relationship a secret for those two whole days they were together. So again, I ask why shouldn't be upset about that? Chloe deserved it, especially if she flipped out about being kept in the dark about something that really isn't any of her business. The same thing for her snapping at Lex, what you expect someone to do when her so called friend ask your boyfriend to spy on her? Or when your boyfriend all of a sudden goes to China without telling you to find a stone that connects to the tattoo you have on your body? What do you expect Lana to do in those cases? She did what anyone would do. Snapping at Chloe in Fragile WASN'T justifyed, but all the ones above were very much justifyed.

I sort of disagree with you on snapping at Chloe in Fragile. Chloe should've gone straight to Lana if she was very concerned. Otherwise, she should've kept her mouth shut. However, once Chloe explained to Lana why she didn't go to her, she should've given Chloe a break at that point.

[Watching Smallville]

Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
Snapping at Chloe in Fragile WASN'T justifyed, but all the ones above were very much justifyed.
I disagree. I think it was perfectly justified for her to react that way to Chloe -- as much as the other times she snapped at people. Chloe went behind her back to talk to Lex. Lana has a right to be upset about that. It's not whether she's justified or not, it's the manner in which she reacts. I'm not saying good or bad, I'm just saying, it's consistent.

[MBCorp]

Originally posted by Watching Smallville
If that kiss was a dream, I give up on thinking anything I see on this show is real.

Yeah, I don't really buy the dream theory, because I can't see how it would advance the plotline any besides be a phoney cliffhanger (although that kiss wasn't much of a cliffhanger). It could have been a weird scene because the direction was off (this was TW's first time, after all). Unfortunately it was real.:p

[Watching Smallville]

Either it's real, or Lex is getting really dillusional. :lol:

[SmallvilleMan]

I disagree. I think it was perfectly justified for her to react that way to Chloe -- as much as the other times she snapped at people. Chloe went behind her back to talk to Lex. Lana has a right to be upset about that. It's not whether she's justified or not, it's the manner in which she reacts. I'm not saying good or bad, I'm just saying, it's consistent.

I disagee, i think it has everything to do with being justifyed in what you do. Snapping at Chloe, because of her obvious concern for you as well as knowing that she did, because she's your best friend and for the right reasons. You don't snap at someone who you know has good intentions and wants to protect you in this situation.

[Kryptonian Snake]

Maybe I should amend my comment: Whenever Lana feels someone wronged her by keeping something from her or getting involved in her life behind her back, she snaps at them. Sometimes she's justified and other times she isn't. She snapped at Clark in Nocturne for not telling her that he went to Byron's house and telling her to remain uninvolved. In the end, Clark was right that it was dangerous for her to get involved, and she was injured in the process. She also snapped at him in Dichotic when Clark warned her about Ian. It turned out that Clark's warning was warranted...just like Chloe's warning about Lex is warranted.

[SmallvilleMan]

Maybe I should amend my comment: Whenever Lana feels someone wronged her by keeping something from her or getting involved in her life behind her back, she snaps at them. Sometimes she's justified and other times she isn't. She snapped at Clark in Nocturne for not telling her that he went to Byron's house and telling her to remain uninvolved. In the end, Clark was right that it was dangerous for her to get involved, and she was injured in the process. She also snapped at him in Dichotic when Clark warned her about Ian. It turned out that Clark's warning was warranted...just like Chloe's warning about Lex is warranted.

Let ask you something. What do define as snapping? Because I don't think she snapped. More like called him out on something. Snapping usually implies going off the wall, being very upset and out of control. Yes, sometimes she's justifyed, sometimes not. Happens with everyone.

[MBCorp]

Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
I disagee, i think it has everything to do with being justifyed in what you do. Snapping at Chloe, because of her obvious concern for you as well as knowing that she did, because she's your best friend and for the right reasons. You don't snap at someone who you know has good intentions and wants to protect you in this situation.

I'm of two minds about this Chloe/Lana thing.

I can kind of understand Lana's anger in this situation. Chloe really should have went to her to talk things over first instead of going to Lex. I think Chloe had good intentions, but she handled the situation badly. And yet Lana did come off as being overly angry and she did end up looking like a hypocrite with all of her, "I would never do anything with Lex Luthor!" and then throwing herself in his arms at the end. So...I dunno. I think it was a cheap ploy to break up Lana and Chloe's friendship so that Lana is on one side of the divide with Lex and Chloe is on the other with Clark.

[Watching Smallville]

Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
I disagee, i think it has everything to do with being justifyed in what you do. Snapping at Chloe, because of her obvious concern for you as well as knowing that she did, because she's your best friend and for the right reasons. You don't snap at someone who you know has good intentions and wants to protect you in this situation.
It's not Chloe's concern I'm talking about. It's the fact that she talked to someone else about Lana without going to Lana first. It just isn't the thing to do. It's like Lana going to Lex in Tomb instead of Lois. It's just the wrong order. :lol: So I think Lana had cause to react the way she did.

MBCorp -- you and I are on the same brainwave! :lol: We're posting the same thing at the same time.

[SmallvilleMan]

I can kind of understand Lana's anger in this situation. Chloe really should have went to her to talk things over first instead of going to Lex. I think Chloe had good intentions, but she handled the situation badly. And yet Lana did come off as being overly angry and she did end up looking like a hypocrite with all of her, "I would never do anything with Lex Luthor!" and then throwing herself in his arms at the end. So...I dunno. I think it was a cheap ploy to break up Lana and Chloe's friendship so that Lana is on one side of the divide with Lex and Chloe is on the other with Clark.

Frankly, everyone in the show is a hypocrite and it figures now that I'm on the critizing side of Lana, you go to the other side. :p


It's not Chloe's concern I'm talking about. It's the fact that she talked to someone else about Lana without going to Lana first. It just isn't the thing to do. It's like Lana going to Lex in Tomb instead of Lois. It's just the wrong order. So I think Lana had cause to react the way she did.

I'm saying Chloe's concern lead her to talk to Lex before Lana. Anyways, I thought what Chloe did was right. I thought it was a friend looking out for another. What she should do.

[MBCorp]

Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
Frankly, everyone in the show is a hypocrite and it figures not that I'm on the critizing side of Lana, you go to the other side. :p .

I know, it feels weird that I'm less critical of Lana in this instance than you are. What is this strange new world?:p:p

[SmallvilleMan]

I know, it feels weird that I'm less critical of Lana in this instance than you are. What is this strange new world?

I don't know, what's next? Al/Miles profess their love for AM?

[cotton candy girl]

Originally posted by Watching Smallville
I disagree. I think it was perfectly justified for her to react that way to Chloe -- as much as the other times she snapped at people. Chloe went behind her back to talk to Lex. Lana has a right to be upset about that.

I agree. Chloe should have gone to Lana first. I don't understand why she would ONLY go to Lex and neglect to mention anything to Lana.

[Kryptonian Snake]

Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
Let ask you something. What do define as snapping? Because I don't think she snapped. More like called him out on something. Snapping usually implies going off the wall, being very upset and out of control. Yes, sometimes she's justifyed, sometimes not. Happens with everyone.
I think this definition from Webster is what I mean:

2 : to utter sharp biting words : bark out irritable or peevish retorts.

Lana consistently takes a sarcastic, accusatory, "how dare you?!" tone when she feels she's been lied to or wrongly kept in the dark. She tends not to be very understanding or forgiving when someone claims to have done something to protect her (I can't really blame her too much...even I'm tired of people "protecting" her). All I'm saying is that her reaction to Chloe was consistent with her previous behavior.

[xrayvision]

Originally posted by Kryptonian Snake
Maybe I should amend my comment: Whenever Lana feels someone wronged her by keeping something from her or getting involved in her life behind her back, she snaps at them. Sometimes she's justified and other times she isn't. She snapped at Clark in Nocturne for not telling her that he went to Byron's house and telling her to remain uninvolved. In the end, Clark was right that it was dangerous for her to get involved, and she was injured in the process. She also snapped at him in Dichotic when Clark warned her about Ian. It turned out that Clark's warning was warranted...just like Chloe's warning about Lex is warranted.

I was about to mention the same thing (with Dichotic). I forgot that she did that in Nocturne also. She also snapped at Clark & defended Whitney in Hug & Visage (though I don't blame her in Hug since she knew Whitney and not Kyle). My main problem with this is that she is not the same with Lex. She wanted to go with Lex to Honduras, and when Lex said no and he said that he was protecting her, she didn't snap back like she normally does. And she did snap at him in Lockdown when he was dying. If she liked him as a friend, she shouldn't be snapping at him during what may have been his final breaths. But lately with her, everything Lex does is OK while what Clark/Chloe/Lex of the past/etc have done were snap-worthy.

As far as the dream sequence...it has been done before in the pilot (that dance scene in the loft). I don't know if this is the case this time.

EDIT: I think Lana did have the right to get mad at Chloe to some extent since it was pretty humiliating, but should have realized that Chloe was looking out for her. But after what Chloe said to her, going back and kissing Lex is unforgivable.

[mobiusklein]

chloe probably knows by now that Lana only listens if you have a Y chromosone.

[i love u tom]

i totally hate lana now!!!! chloe had a right to protect her friend, and lana didnt even say "thanks for your concern, but..." all she did was snap snap snap, and do that whole HOW DARE YOU thingyy. that was majorly RUDE!!

[margroks]

Lana has always been a selfish, self absorbed, manipulative girl who's always treated Clark poorly, never given him the benefit of the doubt and used him as her back-up BF when her own wan't giving her enough attention. That Clark even considered her a friend was appalling and that after all she's done to him that he still wants her and worse, slept with her is much worse and incomprehensible for a guy who's supposed to be supersmart and superheroic.

That Lana ran to Lex, her newest back-up BF is not at all unusual and I've decided that Chloe should never have tried to spare Clark from seeing Lana at her worst. SHe should have let him see her hitting on other guys at the vampire sorority, let him know she ran to Lex as fast as she could although she should have smacked him down harder before when he tried to use her as gobetween.

And that Lana would lie to Chloe and yell at her, the girl who saved her pathetic ass last week just further shows what a nasty girl she is. And of course, a liar and cheat to boot since she's been letting Lex hit on her for a while now and only pretending not to like it. This is no surpeise to me but why waste hate on such a revolting character?

[muffinpeddler]

Originally posted by margroks
Lana has always been a selfish, self absorbed, manipulative girl who's always treated Clark poorly, never given him the benefit of the doubt and used him as her back-up BF when her own wan't giving her enough attention. That Clark even considered her a friend was appalling and that after all she's done to him that he still wants her and worse, slept with her is much worse and incomprehensible for a guy who's supposed to be supersmart and superheroic.

That Lana ran to Lex, her newest back-up BF is not at all unusual and I've decided that Chloe should never have tried to spare Clark from seeing Lana at her worst. SHe should have let him see her hitting on other guys at the vampire sorority, let him know she ran to Lex as fast as she could although she should have smacked him down harder before when he tried to use her as gobetween.

And that Lana would lie to Chloe and yell at her, the girl who saved her pathetic ass last week just further shows what a nasty girl she is. And of course, a liar and cheat to boot since she's been letting Lex hit on her for a while now and only pretending not to like it. This is no surpeise to me but why waste hate on such a revolting character?
:eek: I think you've read my mind! Bravo! This is an excellent analysis!

[Hong'El]

wow... so many haters ( =.=) i love Lana, from season 1 to now. her character has just gone through alot and people change so bleh!

in away i am abit mad cause of what she did (for having a go at Chloe and kissing Lex) but! but... but i just cant seem to hate Lana! maybe its because i love Kristin! oh sweet jesus im gonna go calm down...

[JasonsLea]

Originally posted by margroks
Lana has always been a selfish, self absorbed, manipulative girl who's always treated Clark poorly, never given him the benefit of the doubt and used him as her back-up BF when her own wan't giving her enough attention. That Clark even considered her a friend was appalling and that after all she's done to him that he still wants her and worse, slept with her is much worse and incomprehensible for a guy who's supposed to be supersmart and superheroic.

That Lana ran to Lex, her newest back-up BF is not at all unusual and I've decided that Chloe should never have tried to spare Clark from seeing Lana at her worst. SHe should have let him see her hitting on other guys at the vampire sorority, let him know she ran to Lex as fast as she could although she should have smacked him down harder before when he tried to use her as gobetween.

And that Lana would lie to Chloe and yell at her, the girl who saved her pathetic ass last week just further shows what a nasty girl she is. And of course, a liar and cheat to boot since she's been letting Lex hit on her for a while now and only pretending not to like it. This is no surpeise to me but why waste hate on such a revolting character?

What she said.

[WangTang]

i was hopeing Lana would use her karate on Chloe lol when she came to the DP.

[muffinpeddler]

Originally posted by Hong'El
wow... so many haters ( =.=) i love Lana, from season 1 to now. her character has just gone through alot and people change so bleh!

in away i am abit mad cause of what she did (for having a go at Chloe and kissing Lex) but! but... but i just cant seem to hate Lana! maybe its because i love Kristin! oh sweet jesus im gonna go calm down...

I love Kristen too! Her acting isn't flawed, just what she has to work with! When I first joined K-Site, I rallied against the Lana Haters! But from Lockdown on, I've really started to dislike Lana!

[cotton candy girl]

Originally posted by Hong'El
wow... so many haters ( =.=) i love Lana, from season 1 to now. her character has just gone through alot and people change so bleh!

in away i am abit mad cause of what she did (for having a go at Chloe and kissing Lex) but! but... but i just cant seem to hate Lana! maybe its because i love Kristin! im gonna go calm down...

I can't seem to hate Lana either. I get mad at her, but I don't hate her. You're actually not alone; not everyone does hate her.

[myankskent]

Originally posted by i love u tom
i totally hate lana now!!!! chloe had a right to protect her friend, and lana didnt even say "thanks for your concern, but..." all she did was snap snap snap, and do that whole HOW DARE YOU thingyy. that was majorly RUDE!!

Chloe went about that situation the wrong way. She should've gone straight to Lana rather than going to Lex. If she really cares about Lana getting hurt than she should've gone to her, otherwise, she should've kept her mouth shut.

[cotton candy girl]

Originally posted by myankskent
Chloe went about that situation the wrong way. She should've gone straight to Lana rather than going to Lex. If she really cares about Lana getting hurt than she should've gone to her, otherwise, she should've kept her mouth shut.

You're right. Lana had every right to be upset at Chloe for not coming directly to her. It was kind of a dumb thing for Chloe to do; of course Lex was going to tell Lana. She was trying to be chivalrous, but she went about it the wrong way.

[heavens_cry]

What she did to chloe mad me want to punch her.. I give Chloe 2 thumbs up for keeping her cool..

[treker]

Originally posted by margroks
Lana has always been a selfish, self absorbed, manipulative girl who's always treated Clark poorly, never given him the benefit of the doubt and used him as her back-up BF when her own wan't giving her enough attention. That Clark even considered her a friend was appalling and that after all she's done to him that he still wants her and worse, slept with her is much worse and incomprehensible for a guy who's supposed to be supersmart and superheroic.

That Lana ran to Lex, her newest back-up BF is not at all unusual and I've decided that Chloe should never have tried to spare Clark from seeing Lana at her worst. SHe should have let him see her hitting on other guys at the vampire sorority, let him know she ran to Lex as fast as she could although she should have smacked him down harder before when he tried to use her as gobetween.

And that Lana would lie to Chloe and yell at her, the girl who saved her pathetic ass last week just further shows what a nasty girl she is. And of course, a liar and cheat to boot since she's been letting Lex hit on her for a while now and only pretending not to like it. This is no surpeise to me but why waste hate on such a revolting character?

I couldn't disagree with you more. Lana was with Whitney in season 1 and never knew that Clark wanted her. So, she dated whitney...what was she supposed to do...wait for someone that she didn't even know wanted her?.

In season 2 ... Lana was still attahced to whitney, but eventually gave him up....Clark was to shy to really go for it until the end of season 2 and then the mess with explodding the ship and going to metropolis on red-K happened.

Then Clark distanced himself from her in Season 3. What was she supposed to do...pine for a guy who said he couldn't be with her? Then she went to Paris in season 4 and meet Jason Teague. She was still friends with Clark (even though it was very strained and then, after her breakup with Jason, her and Clark got together).

Clark is to blame for the mess that Clanna is in....not Lana.

[mag]

Why can't this girl stay single for half a season (I don't ask for a full season, I am realist). But please, does she have to rely on a guy to exist ? She goes from one guy to another and each season, it' s the same question : who is going to be Lana's love interest ?

- Season 1 : Whitney
- Season 2 : Clark
- Season 3 : Adam
- Season 4 : Jason
- Season 5 : Clark and Lex

:rolleyes:

[JasonsLea]

Originally posted by mag
Why can't this girl stay single for half a season (I don't ask for a full season, I am realist). But please, does she have to rely on a guy to exist ? She goes from one guy to another and each season, it' s the same question : who is going to be Lana's love interest ?

- Season 1 : Whitney
- Season 2 : Clark
- Season 3 : Adam
- Season 4 : Jason
- Season 5 : Clark and Lex

:rolleyes:

I think I would like Lana if she showed some sign of......depth. I hate girls who just exist to have a boy/girlfriend.

[IVODARK]

Clark is to blame for the mess that Clanna is in....not Lana. [/B]

Nah, the writters are...

[velocity]

Originally posted by mag
Why can't this girl stay single for half a season (I don't ask for a full season, I am realist). But please, does she have to rely on a guy to exist ? She goes from one guy to another and each season, it' s the same question : who is going to be Lana's love interest ?

- Season 1 : Whitney
- Season 2 : Clark
- Season 3 : Adam
- Season 4 : Jason
- Season 5 : Clark and Lex

:rolleyes:

She was single all season 3, so stop whining. Adam wasn't her boyfriend, they didn't even kiss.

[jaime,oburg]

Originally posted by jimmyolsenblues
I WOULD LIKE IT KNOWN FROM THIS DAY FORWARD AND FOREVER THAT I HATE LANA.

EOM
She really rubbed me the wrong way in that scene jimmyolsenblues. Chloe was just looking out for her friend. Maybe she could have spoken to Lana first but that wouldn't have been that dramatic for purposes of storytelling now would it.
WTH was Lana accusing Chloe of a "rumor mill" for? Chloe only spoke to Lex about her concerns of his intentions for her friend. How was that spreading rumors. I thought Lana was really harsh with Chloe, instead of seeing her actions as being out of concern she chose to see meddleing.
I thought this was OOC for Lana. Is this the way tptb are trying to introduce evil Lana to the viewer. Was Holly Harold trying to warn us of something with her comments on the S4 dvd. So Lana's with Lex now so her character is going to become insenstive to her friends when they are trying to look out for her.:confused:

[captaincharisma]

ppl hate when she was with Clark, they now hate when she is now with Lex. she can't do right from wrong, I wonder why:p

[mag]

Originally posted by velocity
She was single all season 3, so stop whining. Adam wasn't her boyfriend, they didn't even kiss.

Snort, he was probably killed too early in the show. Had he lived, though... damn, I could have lived without all those Adam/Lana flirting scenes.


ppl hate when she was with Clark, they now hate when she is now with Lex. she can't do right from wrong, I wonder why

Now, don't reduce that to Clark and Lex, I hated her with Jason and Whitney, too. I am taking bets on who's going to be her love interest in the 6th season.

[jimmyolsenblues]

Clark is to blame for the mess that Clanna is in....not Lana

Watch Episode 100 again.
1. Clark tells her everything and proposes.
2. Lana leaves the Jonathan election party to go comfort a drunk lex.
3. Lana kisses Lex in this episode.


My conclusion is that Clark is not to blame.
Clark did not run to Lex.
Clark did not keep a relation with lex and not tell Lana.

Lana did.

[HalJordan4184]

I don't find much fault in what Chloe did for one major reason. She knew Lana was in a fragile place emotionally, then again, when isn't she. So she went to the person who she could actually affect by talking to them.

She went to Lex, and told him flat out, don't hurt her, she's not another notch on your garter elt, and if you make her that, i'm coming after you.
If she went to Lana, all she could tell her, was what Lana is supposed to have known this whole time, that Lex is a manipulative, selfish, arrogant, evil person. The funny thing is Lana knew this at the beginning of the season, and a couple seasons ago. However, in typical Lana fashion, she forgets all of a person's faults as soon as she needs a BF.

[captaincharisma]

Originally posted by mag
Snort, he was probably killed too early in the show. Had he lived, though... damn, I could have lived without all those Adam/Lana flirting scenes.



Now, don't reduce that to Clark and Lex, I hated her with Jason and Whitney, too. I am taking bets on who's going to be her love interest in the 6th season.

Oh so it's not just a Clark and Lex thing, it's just a Lana hate thing.

[smallvilleobsessor17]

LANA IS NOW A DESPICABLE CREATURE AND A MAJOR LYER AND HYPOCRITE!!!

[Rani]

Originally posted by afro_maestro
man, i think i'm transferrin my hate to the real Kristin Kreuk. I'm gonna stop with the Lana-hating or i might be tempted to attack Kristin Kreuk, lol. W/e, its agreed that the girl is gigantic mess...........and a dumb bich. Done


omfg! I'm starting to think that I don't want to be part of this forum anymore. You people are really immature. You are always wiining about Lana and Lex or Lana and Clark or someone else, telling if this or that happens - I'm newer going to watch the show.
Well don't watch, who cares. I have never hated any character from the show, I just like some more than others. But if you don't have anything else to do but hate, knock yourself out!

[shy175223]

Originally posted by Rani
omfg! I'm starting to think that I don't want to be part of this forum anymore. You people are really immature. You are always wiining about Lana and Lex or Lana and Clark or someone else, telling if this or that happens - I'm newer going to watch the show.
Well don't watch, who cares. I have never hated any character from the show, I just like some more than others. But if you don't have anything else to do but hate, knock yourself out!

Perfectly understandable that you feel that and I'm sorry that you do but please don't let the opinions of others let you leave this forum because some posters feel passionately about characters on the show than others. I , myself, don't have a loathe for any character on the show, not Lana , Chloe, Lois not anyone except some certain MINOR FOTWSbut thats about it.

[muffinpeddler]

Originally posted by treker
I couldn't disagree with you more. Lana was with Whitney in season 1 and never knew that Clark wanted her. So, she dated whitney...what was she supposed to do...wait for someone that she didn't even know wanted her?.

If she really couldn't tell, then she's incredibly dense. I think she knew at least halfway through the 1st season.


Originally posted by Rani
omfg! I'm starting to think that I don't want to be part of this forum anymore. You people are really immature. You are always wiining about Lana and Lex or Lana and Clark or someone else, telling if this or that happens - I'm newer going to watch the show.
Well don't watch, who cares. I have never hated any character from the show, I just like some more than others. But if you don't have anything else to do but hate, knock yourself out!

Well, our apologies. I think we're actually angry at the writers, but accusing the characters is easier and less confusing. I'd suggest just not venturing on a thread that's voiced every opinion three times or more.:D

[dhacker615]

Originally posted by treker
I couldn't disagree with you more. Lana was with Whitney in season 1 and never knew that Clark wanted her. So, she dated whitney...what was she supposed to do...wait for someone that she didn't even know wanted her?.

In season 2 ... Lana was still attahced to whitney, but eventually gave him up....Clark was to shy to really go for it until the end of season 2 and then the mess with explodding the ship and going to metropolis on red-K happened.

Then Clark distanced himself from her in Season 3. What was she supposed to do...pine for a guy who said he couldn't be with her? Then she went to Paris in season 4 and meet Jason Teague. She was still friends with Clark (even though it was very strained and then, after her breakup with Jason, her and Clark got together).

Clark is to blame for the mess that Clanna is in....not Lana.

Actually, I don't think either of the characters have been handled well enough to blame them. The writers seemed to believe that they were doing a sexual tension show, like 'Moonlighting'. They feel the need to constantly keep Clark and Lana apart as a couple. Therefore, they manufacture reasons for that. Early on, it was plausible. Whitney was flawed, but a decent enough guy overall. The fact that Clark was harboring a crush on his girlfriend made the situatiion complex. It played out very nicely over the first two seasons.

As good as S-3 was in most respects, it was truly terrible with the Clana. The rationale for Clark to put distance in that relationship was strained at best. The notion that Lana would hang in with someone that fickle made her look weaker, which given how vulnerable the character already has turned her into a bit of a headcase. She is now the classic "hot, but crazy" chick everyone knows from college. Clark looks painfully naive for investing so much into her.

Season 4 and the much lamented witch plot-line just sealed that deal. Lex marks her third flirtation with the dark side (after Adam and Jason). In that sense, it is not such a stretch. The problem is that she is supposed to be some sort of symbol of wholesomeness to Lex (per Lexmas). I'm sorry, but that is absurd.

Lana is a lot more manipulative and deceitful than any of the men on the show. She is emotionally unstable and totally self-involved. Lex must have known dozens of women exactly like that in Metropolis. Just because this one lives in a rural setting, we are supposed to believe he finds her special? I'm sorry, but that is a stretch.

[FiveForFighting09]

see i look at it this way,,,if Lana is with Lex...then...she can't be with Clark!!!!!!

but i personally have nothing against Kristin but i just don't like the character she plays on Smallville.....

[watcher4]

Originally posted by muffinpeddler
..... I think we're actually angry at the writers, but accusing the characters is easier and less confusing.....

I totally feel that it is the writers to blame for the weaknesses in Lana's character. All it appears that TPTB have been concerned about is Lana's physical beauty. Hey, that goes just so far. KK has proven to me that she can handle to tough stuff. The writers need to find a way to get out of the corner they have painted themselves in with Lana's character.

[dhacker615]

Originally posted by mag
Why can't this girl stay single for half a season (I don't ask for a full season, I am realist). But please, does she have to rely on a guy to exist ? She goes from one guy to another and each season, it' s the same question : who is going to be Lana's love interest ?

- Season 1 : Whitney
- Season 2 : Clark
- Season 3 : Adam
- Season 4 : Jason
- Season 5 : Clark and Lex

:rolleyes:

Excellent call. SV has really struggled with what Lana does when she isn't flirting, kissing, complaining or losing her temper over minor slights. She has no interests of which I am aware. She has no career/life goals. Her friendships are all pretty shallow, if you think about. Her family life disappeared mid-way into season 2.

Therefore, if there isn't a boyfriend, then they need to show-horn her into the McGuffin of the season. Last year, it was the truly terrible possesion storyline. This season, she at least has a reason to be interested in the aliens and the space-ship. The Clana relationship was plausible enough until "Reckoning". Until recently, S5 was Lana's strongest. Sadly, the Clana limbo followed by this run of episodes has undermined all of that.

[OutlawAngel]

I dont hate Lana. Usually I like her. But TPTB have really messed up her character.

[smallvillefreak24]

I have actually always liked Lana. She and Clark have always been shining moments for me. But lately with this lex thing I am likeing her less and less. How could she go to lex with all he's done and how could she do that to clark. She was also so crappy to chloe.

[velocity]

Originally posted by jimmyolsenblues
Watch Episode 100 again.
1. Clark tells her everything and proposes.
2. Lana leaves the Jonathan election party to go comfort a drunk lex.
3. Lana kisses Lex in this episode.

My conclusion is that Clark is not to blame.
Clark did not run to Lex.
Clark did not keep a relation with lex and not tell Lana.

Lana did.
Maybe you should watch Episode 100 again. Lana knows that she's about the only friend Lex has, leaving Jonathan's election party to comfort him - what is wrong with that? And Lex kissed Lana, she pushed him away and left.

keep a relation with Lex? they were reasearching the ship together and she did tell him about it in Lockdown and the reason she kept it from him was because he always changed the subject when she brought up the ship/meteorshower. However, why should Lana tell him anything when he doesn't tell her sh*t ?
And if you're telling me that it is Lana and not Clark that is the reason for their relationship falling apart..then please let me laugh.

[cotton candy girl]

Originally posted by velocity
Maybe you should watch Episode 100 again. Lana knows that she's about the only friend Lex has, leaving Jonathan's election party to comfort him - what is wrong with that?


Agreed. I don't see what the big deal was about her leaving the party to comfort Lex.

And Lana has kept no relation with Lex, other than researching the ship, which Clark did not want to talk about.

[myankskent]

Originally posted by cotton candy girl
Agreed. I don't see what the big deal was about her leaving the party to comfort Lex.

And Lana has kept no relation with Lex, other than researching the ship, which Clark did not want to talk about.

Not to mention the fact that Lana doesn't even understand why Clark is so at odds with Lex at this point because Clark refuses to tell her the truth about anything. So as far as I see it, Lana has no reason to just shut Lex out of her life.

[dhacker615]

Originally posted by myankskent
Not to mention the fact that Lana doesn't even understand why Clark is so at odds with Lex at this point because Clark refuses to tell her the truth about anything. So as far as I see it, Lana has no reason to just shut Lex out of her life.

All reasonable enough points, but they ignore the more basic problem. Clark really has no reason to keep his secret from Lana. In season 2, he told Pete. That was a burden on their friendship, but it didn't ruin it. In season 4, Chloe learned his secret and that helped their relationship. A lot. In "Reckoning", Clark learned Lana would be ok with it as well. The secret has always been the major problem between them, he is supposed to love her and, yet, he keeps the secret for no good reason.

All of which would be fine, if that were Clark's character. However, it is not. If anything, Clark is way too trusting. That was what made the Lex-Clark dynamic so fun in the early going.

Really, the only valid path left is to make Lana a totally unstable person and to suggest that Clark suspected it all along. That is going to take a fair amount of back-filling. Lana has always been fragile, but hardly unstable. Clark has never voiced a single concern about her character.

[Sweetie]

I hate Lana with all my heart.She's hypocrite,selfish and horrible character.She played the innocent girl who never done anything wrong while she's friend with the ennemi.I hope that Lex makes her souffer very much so,she will come back on her knees to Clark.Something that I find annoying about this character is she never figures out anything on her own,always needs somebody to point out what's just in front of her and she takes the most irresponsable decisions to put herself in danger.You're going to say that's because she's still a young and naive teenager.Well,that's exacktly why Clark can't tell her his secret yet.

[cotton candy girl]

Originally posted by Sweetie
Something that I find annoying about this character is she never figures out anything on her own,always needs somebody to point out what's just in front of her

This sounds like Clark to me. He couldn't even tie his shoelaces without Chloe. :\


and she takes the most irresponsable decisions to put herself in danger.

And this sounds like Lois.

[Kryptonian Snake]

Originally posted by dhacker615
All reasonable enough points, but they ignore the more basic problem. Clark really has no reason to keep his secret from Lana.
Right now he does have a good reason: Lex. If Lana knew about Clark and then suddenly started avoiding Lex like the plague, Lex would notice. Without Lana in his life, what else does he have to lose? There wouldn't be much to stop him from being more aggressive in finding out about Clark and possibly targeting Lana (I'm not sure why he hasn't targeted Chloe yet). I don't think Lana would be able to hang around Lex without arousing his suspiscion that she knows about Clark. Thinking back on this season, the window of opportunity to come clean with Lana ended in Splinter when she began researching the ship with Lex.

[Coyote]

Lana was great in this ep!

Her relationship with Lex will be much more interesting and fun to watch than her boring interactions with Clark. It's great that they have her go ahead and move on with her life and find someone new instead of moping around over Clark. She has given the BDA more than enough chances, and he blew it. So now he's history. Good for you, Lana!

I was also pleased to see Lana tell off nosy Chloe. Lana didn't ask for Chloe's "help", and it was very arrogant of Chloe to butt in and try to manage Lana's private relationships. Lana was quite strong and assertive in this ep, a very welcome development.

[LastFatherOfKrypton]

Originally posted by jaime,oburg
She really rubbed me the wrong way in that scene jimmyolsenblues. Chloe was just looking out for her friend. Maybe she could have spoken to Lana first but that wouldn't have been that dramatic for purposes of storytelling now would it.
WTH was Lana accusing Chloe of a "rumor mill" for? Chloe only spoke to Lex about her concerns of his intentions for her friend. How was that spreading rumors. I thought Lana was really harsh with Chloe, instead of seeing her actions as being out of concern she chose to see meddleing.
I thought this was OOC for Lana. Is this the way tptb are trying to introduce evil Lana to the viewer. Was Holly Harold trying to warn us of something with her comments on the S4 dvd. So Lana's with Lex now so her character is going to become insenstive to her friends when they are trying to look out for her.:confused:


I think Lana lashing out at Chloe with the 'rumor mill' retort in anger was indicative of her perception of Chloe and Clark in seeing them together alone in episode 'Void'.

Nothing else was said to that except Chloe's "Sorry" and Lana's "you guys are friends, it was bound to happen sometime, right?"

So Lana feels she does not have to tell and she should not tell anyone of her plans to see whomever she wants and in this case that includes Lex.

[muffinpeddler]

Originally posted by dhacker615
Excellent call. SV has really struggled with what Lana does when she isn't flirting, kissing, complaining or losing her temper over minor slights. She has no interests of which I am aware. She has no career/life goals. Her friendships are all pretty shallow, if you think about. Her family life disappeared mid-way into season 2.

Therefore, if there isn't a boyfriend, then they need to show-horn her into the McGuffin of the season. Last year, it was the truly terrible possesion storyline. This season, she at least has a reason to be interested in the aliens and the space-ship. The Clana relationship was plausible enough until "Reckoning". Until recently, S5 was Lana's strongest. Sadly, the Clana limbo followed by this run of episodes has undermined all of that.

Yeah! I was just thinking "Has Lana even mentioned what she wants to do in the future?" And the only thing i can think of is that she went to Paris for art school...but dropped out. so where does that leave her, since she doesn't give a crap about the Talon anymore! Uh! I think we should've kept JK around. At least he was starting to get some very interesting plots!

[F-Stop Blues]

Originally posted by muffinpeddler
Yeah! I was just thinking "Has Lana even mentioned what she wants to do in the future?" And the only thing i can think of is that she went to Paris for art school...but dropped out. so where does that leave her, since she doesn't give a crap about the Talon anymore! Uh! I think we should've kept JK around. At least he was starting to get some very interesting plots!



That art school thing was the stupidest plot device ever. It made zero sense.

[Watching Smallville]

It would have made more sense if they had followed through. TPTB need to get some concept of who Lana is as an indifvidual, apart from her romances, and then carry it along with the character, like they do with Chloe's journalism. I can't believe that after five years, they still don't have a concept of her. I can understand if they're tryihg to show us that Lana doesn't know who she is. Okay, so build that quality into the character, instead of making it an accidental fallout of inconsistent character development.

[HalJordan4184]

I've said it in a few places. Lana doesn't have a personality, rather she's a personality sponge. She just absorbs whatever personality tptb need her to have for a particular episode. It's why she seems schizophrneic all the time.

[MBCorp]

I know nobody will believe me but I've always wanted to like Lana. Really! She's the lead female, it's annoying to me that I can't like her. I did actually like her in season 1, but somewhere along the way they lost all concept of the character and she became just a love interest, they objectified her too much or something. Lana liked horses in the first two seasons, they really should have done more with her liking of horses. She liked horses, she didn't want to stay in SV like her mom, she was proactive in looking for poor forgotten Henry Small, she actually had more of an identifiable personality in the first few seasons. Now I have no idea who Lana is or how she feels. She's just like a blank slate and they pull the character about at will.

[Watching Smallville]

How often does a character actually lose definition as time goes on? :rolleyes:

[xrayvision]

Originally posted by treker
I couldn't disagree with you more. Lana was with Whitney in season 1 and never knew that Clark wanted her. So, she dated whitney...what was she supposed to do...wait for someone that she didn't even know wanted her?.

I disagree here. I watched Crush yesterday, and it's obvious that Clark was referring to her when he said "Chloe gave me that same advice with another friend...". It was so obvious that it seemed like Lana was ready to break up with Whitney at the end of the episode (when he was about to break the news of his father's death) when she saw Clark & Chloe together and said "Whitney, we have to talk".

What I find intriguing is how she has now on 2 occasions wanted to break up with her boyfriends the day of their fathers' death.

I think both characters in Clana are to blame. Clark couldn't have told her his secret after what happened in Reckoning since she is too involved with Lex. Even if she tried to hide it, it would seem more fake than if she didn't know, and Lex would be able to read her (after all he read all those books Lionel got for him when he was younger). I don't think Lex is going after Chloe since she is very formidable. Plus, if he suspects Clark to have been powerful enough to withstand the Porsche accident, he would probably not want Clark coming after him, which he would do if he kills Clark's only true friend at this moment.

The reason I blame Clark is because he should have realized a long time ago that this relation with Lana would always be impossible (he said it himself in S3, at the end of Obsession and a few other episodes).

I have no idea what Lana's career will be. Maybe she will get messed up to a point where someone finally helps fix her life up and she would then do the same for others who are having problems in life.

[muffinpeddler]

She doesn't have any aspirations in the comics either! She's just "Pete's Wife" and "Clark's Old Flame", which is, in current continuity, stretching it at best.

[xrayvision]

I hope they bring that Brad character on the show from Superman III. He's a drunk and would be perfect for her.

[muffinpeddler]

Originally posted by xrayvision
I hope they bring that Brad character on the show from Superman III. He's a drunk and would be perfect for her. :rotfl: :rotfl:

[xrayvision]

Yeah go Brana!!

Lana: Lex, I would like you to meet my husband, Brad.
Lex: This is who you left me for?
Lana: Yes. By the way, we're having our 8th kid. Can we have some money? Lana Jr. hasn't learned how to pole dance yet, and as you can see, I'm a complete mess and can't get a gig.
Lex: What's the matter, Brad here spent all his money on alcohol?

[angelfire east]

Originally posted by xrayvision
I hope they bring that Brad character on the show from Superman III. He's a drunk and would be perfect for her.

NO! Lana doesn't need anymore reasons to whiny and to be made to look the victim.

[xrayvision]

Well, you know it's going to happen, so why not do it and bring some comedic scenes along with it? Or bring back Pete, who in the comics ends up with her, but not for her to be dependent on him. He's a good guy and has Clark's back. He could help get Lex off her back and start living a normal life. If she is truly as good a person as they portrayed her in S1 (how she was disgusted by Whitney's friends who cheated on that exam) then she would like Pete.

[Kryptonian Snake]

Originally posted by xrayvision
I disagree here. I watched Crush yesterday, and it's obvious that Clark was referring to her when he said "Chloe gave me that same advice with another friend...". It was so obvious that it seemed like Lana was ready to break up with Whitney at the end of the episode (when he was about to break the news of his father's death) when she saw Clark & Chloe together and said "Whitney, we have to talk".
Heck, she knew about Clark's attraction much earlier than that. In Cool both had to keep telling themselves that they weren't on a date. There would be no reason to rationalize going to a concert if there was no romantic attraction there. In Shimmer they would have kissed had Nell not interrupted them. Later in that episode Lana goes to Clark's loft to watch a sunset, and it was obvious that Clark was interested in a romance when he extended the invitation. Lana's always had a history of being indecisive about her romantic relationships.

[dhacker615]

Originally posted by MBCorp
I know nobody will believe me but I've always wanted to like Lana. Really! She's the lead female, it's annoying to me that I can't like her. I did actually like her in season 1, but somewhere along the way they lost all concept of the character and she became just a love interest, they objectified her too much or something. Lana liked horses in the first two seasons, they really should have done more with her liking of horses. She liked horses, she didn't want to stay in SV like her mom, she was proactive in looking for poor forgotten Henry Small, she actually had more of an identifiable personality in the first few seasons. Now I have no idea who Lana is or how she feels. She's just like a blank slate and they pull the character about at will.

Yeah, the horses went after the accident in season 3, didn't they? It makes sense, I guess. The desire to get out of Smallville disappeared after the Art School thing in Paris fell apart. Again, it kind of makes sense. Aunt Nell and Henry Small were just shown the door.

My problem is that a person losing interest in their own life is in a pretty severe depression. It happens and Lana has easily had enough trauma to be depressed, but that is not how they've played it. Maybe Kirsten is not a strong enough actress to go beyond what is purely on the page. However, they don't give her much to play really.

I mean, how hard is it for her to have a scene with ... say ... Chloe talking about how everything started to change when Whitney died? Or how she is grateful to Lex for everthing that he has done, but he cannot ever fully trust him after he escaped Belle Reeve? Or how redecorating the Talon made her think she wanted to be an interior designer, but in Paris she realized she had no talent and, so, she turned to Jason?

In other words, something to create the impression that Lana Lang is an actual person and not an object for Clark (and now Lex) to project their desires upon.

If that takes her to a drunk named Brad, then so much the better.


Originally posted by xrayvision
Well, you know it's going to happen, so why not do it and bring some comedic scenes along with it? Or bring back Pete, who in the comics ends up with her, but not for her to be dependent on him. He's a good guy and has Clark's back. He could help get Lex off her back and start living a normal life. If she is truly as good a person as they portrayed her in S1 (how she was disgusted by Whitney's friends who cheated on that exam) then she would like Pete.

I really, really miss Pete. Chloe is a good character, but she is a much less interesting partner for Clark in the hero business. She is perfectly resourceful and has no mixed feelings. **Yawn** Pete was much more fun, because you never quite knew what he was going to do and/or say.

[xrayvision]

I hear that bro. I hope they bring him back to fill in JK's lost spot. There is so much going on now, with the politics, Lex, possible Chlark (temporary anyway), possible evil Lana, and Lionel, that Pete would really be able to get a good part of a story.

[shy175223]

no matter HOW much we wish for things, do really think that ALmiles could actually hear us?? NO

[muffinpeddler]

Originally posted by xrayvision
Well, you know it's going to happen, so why not do it and bring some comedic scenes along with it? Or bring back Pete, who in the comics ends up with her, but not for her to be dependent on him. He's a good guy and has Clark's back. He could help get Lex off her back and start living a normal life. If she is truly as good a person as they portrayed her in S1 (how she was disgusted by Whitney's friends who cheated on that exam) then she would like Pete.

Why'd they make pete leave the show anyway? (Real world stuff, not "He got beat up by the FBI") I didn't start watching SV until this season.

[Remus]

I've disliked Lana since season 4.. :x

She was tolerable before then, but since then, I've disliked her greatly.

[xrayvision]

Originally posted by muffinpeddler
Why'd they make pete leave the show anyway? (Real world stuff, not "He got beat up by the FBI") I didn't start watching SV until this season.

They had no problem with Sam Jones III, just that they didn't have enough scenes for him, and I think he was even willing to go for this reason. I don't know if I agree with that for back then, but now would be a great time for a return. He can really fit into some of these stories.

[lastdaughterofkrypton]

Originally posted by xrayvision
I hear that bro. I hope they bring him back to fill in JK's lost spot. There is so much going on now, with the politics, Lex, possible Chlark (temporary anyway), possible evil Lana, and Lionel, that Pete would really be able to get a good part of a story.
Yeah
And the funny thing is that they said, that they let go Pete because they couldn't make him hook up with anybody and yet Chloe never has had a boyfriend and she still on the show, so what gives. :confused: :mad:

[Watching Smallville]

Originally posted by dhacker615
Yeah, the horses went after the accident in season 3, didn't they? It makes sense, I guess. The desire to get out of Smallville disappeared after the Art School thing in Paris fell apart. Again, it kind of makes sense. Aunt Nell and Henry Small were just shown the door.

My problem is that a person losing interest in their own life is in a pretty severe depression. It happens and Lana has easily had enough trauma to be depressed, but that is not how they've played it. Maybe Kirsten is not a strong enough actress to go beyond what is purely on the page. However, they don't give her much to play really.

I mean, how hard is it for her to have a scene with ... say ... Chloe talking about how everything started to change when Whitney died? Or how she is grateful to Lex for everthing that he has done, but he cannot ever fully trust him after he escaped Belle Reeve?
This is a really good point. So often on this board people pull together a good rationale behind Lana's character -- or other things that seem like weakness in the show -- and all it would take is a short scene to fix it. And it would be an interesting scene. I don't knoiw why TPTB write Lana the way they do. You're right -- a lot of what we talk about as inconsistencies could actually be consistent character development if the writers would just write three extra lines into the show.

[tjpw fanatic]

Originally posted by jimmyolsenblues
kiss. I feel Lana is doing this specifically to hurt Clark, there are a lot guys for Lana to date who did not investigate and spy on Clark.

exactly! you said that perfectly jimmyolsenblues!! she went about this all the wrong way, and for that reason i am extremely mad at her!

[xrayvision]

Not only that, but I think she's doing it also to get back at him because of his close friendship with Chloe.

[tjpw fanatic]

yes that also! Man, she gets on my nerves!

[photogirl]

Lana's got issues...she really bothers me!! She makes some really stupid decisions!!

[tjpw fanatic]

Yes she does! ugh she makes me so mad! as someone said in another thread I forget who, they called her an "attention whore" and that is the same way i feel, she does stuff just to get attention/get back at people and doesnt think it over!

[photogirl]

She is always begging for attention...I mean who would really be that upset over their parents after 15 years?

[tjpw fanatic]

I'd still be upset, but I wouldn't go around complaining about it all the time. Of course you miss them, everyone knows you lost your parents and your a poor little girl, we dont need a reminder every 2 seconds!

[All about Clark]

I liked Lana until Reckoning when I lost all respect for her. Going to Lex, the guy who she knows is investigating Clark, right after Clark just gave her all the info she could ask for and risked his life and hers on Lex. Bleh. I won't mind if she gets what she deserves.

This eppy did not give me the impression she was doing this to hurt Clark, even though Chloe mentioned it as a possibility. Lana is just needy Lana and Lex is giving her all the attention (yes, attention whore) regarding Fine and the alien threat and the ship. She thinks she's doing something important with Lex and she's not.

[tjpw fanatic]

Yes I agree with you all about clark! I started off liking her, thinking oh yeah she seems nice, her and clark are perfect for eachother, and she's just trying to get out of the cheerleader stereotype and fit in. But you're right, Reckoning blew her cover, it showed that she was and "attention whore"!

[angelfire east]

Originally posted by tjpw fanatic
I'd still be upset, but I wouldn't go around complaining about it all the time. Of course you miss them, everyone knows you lost your parents and your a poor little girl, we dont need a reminder every 2 seconds!

Agreed and didn't she tell Clark in season one she wanted to get away from being known as girl who lost her parents. Yet she the one who keeps it fleah in everyone's minds and choose not to move on.

[tjpw fanatic]

Exactly! Everytime someone else wants to bring it up, she is all like No! I'm trying to forget that! But really all she does is complain about it and not try and forget about it at all. She needs to stop whining and being an "attention whore". Someone needs to put her in her place, and if she gets hurt by lex than it is her own fault, and she deserves whats coming to her

[dhacker615]

Originally posted by shy175223
no matter HOW much we wish for things, do really think that ALmiles could actually hear us?? NO
Boy, I hope they have a writer's assistant at least reading these boards. I know if people were constantly commenting about my work that I'd be curious.

[tjpw fanatic]

I would also be very curious, and would either be checking it myself, or having someone who works for me look it over and inform me.

[dhacker615]

Originally posted by Watching Smallville
This is a really good point. So often on this board people pull together a good rationale behind Lana's character -- or other things that seem like weakness in the show -- and all it would take is a short scene to fix it. And it would be an interesting scene. I don't knoiw why TPTB write Lana the way they do. You're right -- a lot of what we talk about as inconsistencies could actually be consistent character development if the writers would just write three extra lines into the show.
Thanks.

That is easily in the top five things that bug me about the last couple seasons. The characters have a history. The people who have been watching the show are well aware of it. If you want to take Lana in a new direction that is fine, but use the past instead of just ignoring it. It is not like every episode is so tightly ploted that they couldn't spare a few minutes here and there.

[Kal-El1978]

On Lana Lang

They are killing her character. The shows appeal has been that at least Lana has had somewhat of a brain. Why does she always go to Lex when Lex is obviously someone Clark does not trust in the least.

Lana's intent has become selfish. Hmmmm...maybe it always was. She is just not a good person. If Clark ever takes her back it would be a mistake. As long as they don't play Clark as the always wondering about Lana. It's finished and let the writers keep it that way. We don't need any nostalgia of when they were in a relationship.

Lana has shown her true colors and now is just like any other beautiful girl. She's beautiful but thats it, there is no more "good-intentioned" person. She has turned to the dark side and there is no coming back.

On another note...I think that Kristin must feel like this in real life cause she will never get Tom. You can see the jealousy in her eyes...I think she really is into Tom. Now she is just reacting to a reality. Ok ok enough .

I must admit, I loved the Clana. Now I feel like not watching the show. I can't stand Lois and don't think that Clois will work. Not with Erika anyhow. She is too annoying. I miss the innocent Lana. Arg

The dream is over.

[lastdaughterofkrypton]

Originally posted by tjpw fanatic
... it showed that she was and "attention whore"!
And soon a plain whore once Lex and she start to get it on ;)

[xrayvision]

Oh yeah!! I'm waiting for her to get Lex to trap Clark with a kryptonite armband to turn him into Lana's grape-feeding slave. I wonder if she will live in the mansion? Man, I hope Helen shows up again and her & Lana go at it.

[JasonsLea]

Originally posted by xrayvision
Yeah go Brana!!

Lana: Lex, I would like you to meet my husband, Brad.
Lex: This is who you left me for?
Lana: Yes. By the way, we're having our 8th kid. Can we have some money? Lana Jr. hasn't learned how to pole dance yet, and as you can see, I'm a complete mess and can't get a gig.
Lex: What's the matter, Brad here spent all his money on alcohol?

LMAO! :rotfl:

[dhacker615]

Originally posted by Kal-El1978

I must admit, I loved the Clana. Now I feel like not watching the show. I can't stand Lois and don't think that Clois will work. Not with Erika anyhow. She is too annoying. I miss the innocent Lana. Arg


To me, the big mistake in the Clana was keeping them apart in S3. There was a lot of dark stuff going on in S3 (Lex struggling with his sanity, Chloe betraying Clark, Lionel plotting to murder Choe, JK having health problems). The make-up/break-up cycle of the Clana was trivial in comparison.

Moreover, they have been played as the major relationship of each others lives and, yet, they were only an active couple for two episodes prior to S5. They needed a run of 22 (or so)episodes as an active couple to build some history beyond the whole friend/crush thing. It would've helped a lot in S4 by making the transition to Jason much more traumatic. It would've helped this season, since the writers would've been forced to move past the "secreths and lieths" thing that started interesting and wore thin very fast.

Anyway ...

Lana + Lex is a dead end, which puts Lana at the end of the merry-go-round of partners. Since she has been reduced to really only having that dimension as a character, I don't know what they are going to do with her.

I am afraid that TPTB will try to stretch out the Lexana. That would be a shame. Lex is the most fun when he is paired with an equal (Lionel, Helen, etc.) Lana is not remotely his equal. They are deadly dull together. Lex playing emotive is boring. Lana playing bad girl is doubly boring (and poorly acted if remember "Spell").

[puddinpiester]

It seemed to me that Lana had not thought of hurting Clark until Chloe put the idea in her head by saying, "...I know you may want to hurt Clark, but Lex is a predator..." (or somethin' like that). After that remark, Lana maybe decided that she could use Lex to hurt Clark AND get information from Lex about the ship. I don't think it is Lana's nature to plan to hurt people. She's not smart enough to be that conniving. But, after she was handed the idea, maybe she ran with it. Sounds like an agenda to me. Would sure be unexpected for Lana to play someone.

Maybe this is the surprise we didn't get in Reckoning.

[clarksmuse]

Originally posted by Kal-El1978
On Lana Lang

They are killing her character. The shows appeal has been that at least Lana has had somewhat of a brain. Why does she always go to Lex when Lex is obviously someone Clark does not trust in the least.

Lana's intent has become selfish. Hmmmm...maybe it always was. She is just not a good person. If Clark ever takes her back it would be a mistake. As long as they don't play Clark as the always wondering about Lana. It's finished and let the writers keep it that way. We don't need any nostalgia of when they were in a relationship.



I don't think Clark will ever take her back... that relationship is dead. And think for a moment from Lana's POV: she's always known Clark was hiding things from her (no matter how important they actually ARE), so she thinks he's always lying to her. Lex, on the other hand, seems to be honest with her (looking at this from her viewpoint, even though we know he's been playing her). Why wouldn't she go running to Lex? He'll play mind games with her, she gets mad, he apologizes and then makes with the "honesty"... she then forgives him, and all's well in her world. Just a thought...

[xrayvision]

I just find it hard to believe that Clark would have told her more trivial things like that Fine was his professor (since she recognized the name in Hypnotic) than tell her about what Lex really did in Mortal and other episodes. Which other "friend" would Clark say goodbye to as he so put it (other than Lex). She did not trust Lex at the time anyway.

EDIT: And by far the biggest thing that doesn't make sense is that she's with him after what happened in Bound. After that, a girl who wants Lex would have to be insane/brainless. I don't know of anyone who would want to be involved with someone who woke up next to a slaughtered dead body. Even though he didn't do it, Lex did treat those women badly. Yes they were gold diggers, but if those are Lana's intentions (i.e. being a gold digger with him), then she is doing something very dangerous.

[myankskent]

I'm sorry, but my problem with Lana's character has nothing to do with Lana's character, it has to do with Clark's character. If Clark can't tell Lana the truth, then Lana is kept in the dark about everything and she is basically going to go to the person that is more open to her, and that person is Lex as of right now. Of course Lex is keeping things from her, but he is balancing it out by telling her about the spaceship and covering up what she did in Commencement. To me, many people out there say that Lana should stay away from Lex, that she should understand that Lex is evil and all of that, but from her standpoint, Clark lies to her just as much, or even more than Lex. Now of course Clark's lies don't put her in danger, but she is unaware of what Lex can do based on the fact that Clark has never given her all of the dirt on Lex, like he has given to Chloe. So Lana has two choices, either she cuts everyone out of her life because they all lie to her, or she goes to Lex, maybe in just a friends kind of way or maybe it's something more. Either way, the writing this season has made it logical for Lana to go to Lex given the fact that everyone else keeps things from her, and these "things" are quite noticeable to Lana.

[xrayvision]

Well, if it was just a friends type way, then it would be more believable than this sexual relationship (which after what happened in Bound, Lana should be dead against). Even with the just friends relationship, it would mean having Lana forget what Lex did in the 1st few episodes of the season. I'm sure she knew that Lex was the one Clark fought with in Mortal.

[myankskent]

Originally posted by xrayvision
Well, if it was just a friends type way, then it would be more believable than this sexual relationship (which after what happened in Bound, Lana should be dead against). Even with the just friends relationship, it would mean having Lana forget what Lex did in the 1st few episodes of the season. I'm sure she knew that Lex was the one Clark fought with in Mortal.

Yeah, but my point is that if Clark is going to deceive her and Lex is going to tell her the truth, who should she go to? Now I agree with you on the sexual relationship part, that is ridiculous and I am not in favor of it. I'd rather her just being friends with Lex and then play the storyline from there. You can be friends with someone that you don't trust completely, but you can't be romantically involved with someone who you don't trust. That's why the storyline itself makes no sense.

[clarksmuse]

Originally posted by myankskent
I'm sorry, but my problem with Lana's character has nothing to do with Lana's character, it has to do with Clark's character. If Clark can't tell Lana the truth, then Lana is kept in the dark about everything and she is basically going to go to the person that is more open to her, and that person is Lex as of right now. Of course Lex is keeping things from her, but he is balancing it out by telling her about the spaceship and covering up what she did in Commencement. To me, many people out there say that Lana should stay away from Lex, that she should understand that Lex is evil and all of that, but from her standpoint, Clark lies to her just as much, or even more than Lex. Now of course Clark's lies don't put her in danger, but she is unaware of what Lex can do based on the fact that Clark has never given her all of the dirt on Lex, like he has given to Chloe. So Lana has two choices, either she cuts everyone out of her life because they all lie to her, or she goes to Lex, maybe in just a friends kind of way or maybe it's something more. Either way, the writing this season has made it logical for Lana to go to Lex given the fact that everyone else keeps things from her, and these "things" are quite noticeable to Lana.

Yes, exactly the point I was trying to make earlier, though I think you put it more eloquently.... :)

[mobiusklein]

She could decide to avoid both men. Hey, THAT's an option she should try.

[Watching Smallville]

I would think that the fact that Lex got Jason fired would stick with her. And the fact that Lex and Jason went to China together without telling her. Even though Jason turned out to be a bad choice, what Lex did was still underhanded. I'm not sure what's she's up to with that guy. I think she knows better than to trust him.

[myankskent]

Originally posted by Watching Smallville
I would think that the fact that Lex got Jason fired would stick with her. And the fact that Lex and Jason went to China together without telling her. Even though Jason turned out to be a bad choice, what Lex did was still underhanded. I'm not sure what's she's up to with that guy. I think she knows better than to trust him.

But you know what, everyone does things that deceive another person. Lex apologized for all of those things, and the real incriminating things are still somehow unknown to Lana. Now I don't think that Lana should, nor trust Lex completely. But then again, she doesn't trust Clark either. Or Chloe for that matter. I just don't like the fact that there are romantic things on with Lex and Lana. That is taking it too far and all that you have stated above should be taken into consideration when it comes to that.

[angelfire east]

Originally posted by mobiusklein
She could decide to avoid both men. Hey, THAT's an option she should try.

*gasp* You mean stand on her own:eek:

No she won't really do that. So many guys fall in love with her all she have to do is met new people and bingo she'll have another boyfriend. Like what happened with Jason.

Anyway going to Lex, dating him makes her look like a idoit in my eyes. She may not know everything Lex has done but she knows enough, has seen enough. (the stones)

[clarksmuse]

Originally posted by angelfire east
*gasp* You mean stand on her own:eek:



:lol: That's hilarious, angelfire east! But so true, I don't think she'll get to that point, honestly. It's tragic, too...

[tjpw fanatic]

^^:lol: i agree with both of you, as sad as it is she needs someone and can't stand on her own

[cotton candy girl]

Oh like she did for about 2 seasons?

[clarksmuse]

Originally posted by cotton candy girl
Oh like she did for about 2 seasons?

No, not even for those two seasons when she was single. She pined after Clark like Clark pined after her... it was a "pine-fest" :) She'd run to Clark with her problems and at times, that was painful to watch. In season three, she turned to not only Lex but Adam (and granted, Adam wasn't that great a guy and at least Lana figured that out)... just a thought to ponder.