Wow, Lois gets another job in her lap!

[sstray72]

I can't get hookups like her, and I have a DEGREE!!

[F-Stop Blues]

You just got to be at the right place at the right time.

[SuperVan]

Its her boobs.

[auxvis]

It's all about who you know :)

[Rosey]

Originally posted by sstray72
I can't get hookups like her, and I have a DEGREE!! But you're on the East coast. They do things differently in small town Kansas. :lol:

[sstray72]

You're right, it's about who you know, and that is pure BS, IMO.


Originally posted by SuperVan
Its her boobs.

Yes, I'm sure Martha enjoys Lois' boobs as a permanent fixture in her office... Boobs get so much more done than lobbying... :p

[auxvis]

Well it isn't necessarily...I mean if she is qualified for the job and just happens to know Martha then it's not a big deal...if she isn't qualified then obviously it shouldn't happen...

I mean people always hire people they are comfortable around

[SmallvilleFanBlue]

don't 4get the fact, that martha gave her the job cu she helped Jonathon get the senator position, y not???
obviously she's dedicated..

[Timester]

Originally posted by sstray72
I can't get hookups like her, and I have a DEGREE!!

Bill Gates is the richest man in the world and he doesn't have a degree. The richest man of Portugal not even the 7th grade has and he got the business from his boss just because the boss liked him (and from it, he builded a powerful enterprise). Two example to show that it's all about being the right place at the right time.

[shaula luthor]

Originally posted by SmallvilleFanBlue
don't 4get the fact, that martha gave her the job cu she helped Jonathon get the senator position, y not???
obviously she's dedicated..

True!!!
They trust her for the job.

[Chlark Kent]

Who knew being a "muffin peddling college drop-out" could be so lucrative? :\

[watcher4]

Well, she's a pretty lucky lady!

[Shadow09]

Yea Lois did get one heck of a chance with luck.

Excellent connections Lois has for getting the sweet jobs.

Good for her though, it might finally be time to have Lois show up and get involved with Clark more even if Clark doesn't really find her as nothing more then a friend.

[LastingChlarker]

Lois...sigh...quite frankly I think I'd enjoy her much more if she was shown as actually working for what she wants and earning things in life. So far, none of that. Doesn't make for a strong character IMO.

[Deana]

Originally posted by Timester
Bill Gates is the richest man in the world and he doesn't have a degree. The richest man of Portugal not even the 7th grade has and he got the business from his boss just because the boss liked him (and from it, he builded a powerful enterprise). Two example to show that it's all about being the right place at the right time.

Thanks for pointing that out. A lot of people seem to ignore the fact that being in the right place at the right time happens. You don't have to have a college degree to reach the stars and beyond.

Poor Lois can't win for losing...

[RemDiamond]

Originally posted by Deana
Thanks for pointing that out. A lot of people seem to ignore the fact that being in the right place at the right time happens. You don't have to have a college degree to reach the stars and beyond.

Poor Lois can't win for losing...

That is because it really isn't relevant. Bill Gates' story is that hard work and having a dream paid off despite a lack of a formal education. The reason it is so frustrating is that isn't Lois Lane's story. She is driven and she's a hard worker. She isn't just handed job after job that she isn't qualified for. As Martha said, she is suppose to have a much greater destiny, one that she earns.

[Kalel x2x2]

Originally posted by sstray72
I can't get hookups like her, and I have a DEGREE!!


lol that sucks but lois lane is ........ well ... LOIS LANE!!

[sstray72]

Well, given that this country is supposedly built by hard work as a means to success and NOT handouts, legacies, and general 'good ol' boy' networking, Lois' "opportunities" grate on my nerves. But I'm not ignorant of the fact that these things happen all the time.


Originally posted by Kalel x2x2
lol that sucks but lois lane is ........ well ... LOIS LANE!!

The worst Lois Lane, ever... She doesn't deserve the name.

[Deana]

Originally posted by RemDiamond
That is because it really isn't relevant. Bill Gates' story is that hard work and having a dream paid off despite a lack of a formal education. The reason it is so frustrating is that isn't Lois Lane's story. She is driven and she's a hard worker. She isn't just handed job after job that she isn't qualified for. As Martha said, she is suppose to have a much greater destiny, one that she earns.

Until Lois get more than 13 episodes a season, you want see any of her hard work on screen...
The writers have more "thrilling" things to write about.

I'm a Lois fans, so I know that Ms. Lane worked her butt of, regardless if I "see" it or not.

I mean you don't "see" Chloe doing anything other than helping Clark solve his mysteries. Does that mean because we don't see her writing her articles or getting her "fingers dirty" by going to get the journalist there their doughnuts; she isn't great at her job?

[RemDiamond]

Originally posted by Deana
Until Lois get more than 13 episodes a season, you want see any of her hard work on screen...
The writers have more "thrilling" things to write about.

I'm a Lois fans, so I know that Ms. Lane worked her butt of, regardless if I "see" it or not.

I mean you don't "see" Chloe doing anything other than helping Clark solve his mysteries. Does that mean because we don't see her writing her articles or getting her "fingers dirty" by going to get the journalist there their doughnuts; she isn't great at her job?

The difference is that even if we don't see all of what Chloe does, it is mentioned in passing or everytime we see her she is at the Daily Planet. She mentions pulling all nighters for a deadline ect... There are no such references to Lois. I haven't ever seen any mention or shout out that she works hard at all at anything. Being in only 13 shows isn't an excuse. If the writers were interested in advancing Lois they would. Lionel is only in 13 but we know so much about his character and so much about how he has his hands dirty in so many areas. He is fully fleshed out as a character. Lois isn't and as a main character in Superman, she not only should be but she should be a priority regardless of how late to the show she arrived.

[Deana]

Originally posted by RemDiamond
The difference is that even if we don't see all of what Chloe does, it is mentioned in passing or everytime we see her she is at the Daily Planet. She mentions pulling all nighters for a deadline ect... There are no such references to Lois. I haven't ever seen any mention or shout out that she works hard at all at anything. Being in only 13 shows isn't an excuse. If the writers were interested in advancing Lois they would. Lionel is only in 13 but we know so much about his character and so much about how he has his hands dirty in so many areas. He is fully fleshed out as a character. Lois isn't and as a main character in Superman, she not only should be but she should be a priority regardless of how late to the show she arrived.

How many seasons has Lionel been in compared to Lois?

Chloe has been in every freaking episode this season, so it would be a tad weird not mention her job, but I'd like to "see" her do it. Showing the Daily Planet blimp doesn't cut it, nor does seeing her holding a stack a papers.

I guess what I'm saying is the writers don't really show the characters do anything related to work. We end up making assumptions.

LOL, Obviously the Kent farm runs itself; Lana and Chloe has clones who go to class for them while they are living it up in SV or working; Lex spends most of his time like a pimp in his study, with clone Lex running Lex Corp; and how do we forget the Senator who we see do nothing...

You can't just pick Lois to stamp "we don't see her work so she shouldn't have the job" on.

[SteveS]

It will funny when somebody does some research on this under-age chief-of-staff, her resume', curriculum vitae, and her family background and it gets published.

Other than the general, there is nothing to be proud of and then there is Lucy, who someone with a little looking is not a feather in Lois', the Lane's or Martha's cap.

Knowing people and being at the right place and time count, but you also have to have the qualifications, otherwise people note various forms of nepotism for the unqualified.

[Deana]

SteveS, That's why it's good to be in great standing with the Kent's. Good people and high places, who take their chances on a person who's trying to find her way in life.

[SteveS]

That is a positive outlook, but if anyone produced an article on Lois' background and lack of achievement then it looks very unimpressive and given Lois' lack of people skills or a winning personality, she is not long to be a chief-of-staff.

In other words, the reality of Lois' background could easily become an embarrasment for a first time senator.

[Kreukie]

Originally posted by SteveS
In other words, the reality of Lois' background could easily become an embarrasment for a first time senator.

Exactly.

"Oh look, she wasn't able to get enough credits to finish high school."

"Oh look, she got kicked out of college for drinking."

"Oh look, less then a year ago she was working at the coffee shop."

I'm going to guess the reason why Smallville!Lois gets the job at the Daily Planet is not because she's devoted to being a good reporter, not because she cares about the truth, not because she dreamt about it all her life, but because by chance she knew the right person at the right time (Chloe). :rolleyes:

Give me a freakin’ break.

[F-Stop Blues]

Originally posted by SteveS
It will funny when somebody does some research on this under-age chief-of-staff, her resume', curriculum vitae, and her family background and it gets published.

Other than the general, there is nothing to be proud of and then there is Lucy, who someone with a little looking is not a feather in Lois', the Lane's or Martha's cap.

Knowing people and being at the right place and time count, but you also have to have the qualifications, otherwise people note various forms of nepotism for the unqualified.


All true but like it or not or believe it or not Lois did get JK elected. I guess Martha feels that Lois has the qualifications. And lets be honest she's not a central character yet since Clark is still hung up on Lana so they need her to be doing something that warrants her being around. I can deal with it since I think after the movie comes out she can do more things storywise.

[savingpeoplething]

Originally posted by LastingChlarker
Lois...sigh...quite frankly I think I'd enjoy her much more if she was shown as actually working for what she wants and earning things in life. So far, none of that. Doesn't make for a strong character IMO.

Right on!
I like Lois, I do, but it's so forced how she's getting these jobs for nothing.
I'd really like to see her prove to be the real Lois Lane that TPTB say she is.

[StealthyMakoto]

Well that puts Lois in the perfect position to be on that plane in the Ausiello spoileres....

[Deana]

Originally posted by SteveS
That is a positive outlook, but if anyone produced an article on Lois' background and lack of achievement then it looks very unimpressive and given Lois' lack of people skills or a winning personality, she is not long to be a chief-of-staff.

In other words, the reality of Lois' background could easily become an embarrasment for a first time senator.

Martha is not your average senator. She would probably care less if Lois background is brought up. She already knows about it, has accepted it and still hired her.

Like I said in a previous post, if Lois accidently starts a war with Mississipi, she can always be fired...

I guess to some it's forced, but with a show that has a first year college student that could hack into an alien space ship, and characters that can drive three hours in seconds, Martha giving Lois a job isn't all that note worthy.

[savingpeoplething]

We have to also remember, yes, Martha is a special woman who will be a great senator, but she's also a novice at this...just as Jonathan was. They don't know much about how things work, which is why Lionel came to her with helpful hints that she hadn't thought about.
She hired Lois because (as it turns out on many occasion in Smallville) Martha just happens to need someone last minute and lo and behold, Lois has nothing going on :)
Yes, many things on Smallville are unrealistic, but when it comes to something as real as politics (as opposed to the super-advanced technology or spaceships), there should be some expectations and standards that come with it.
I guess Martha and Lois will learn how to do their respective jobs together :)

[Timester]

Let see the realism of Smallville (without talking about Krypton or anything related, including FOTW).

Lionel getting out of the jail, cleaned of all charges, with help of the Teagues. Conclusion: the Teagues are the rulers of the world.

The Luthor mansion, that is attacked and assaulted every single week. Conclusion: the Mansion should be Fortress Luthor by now.

Chloe, and her little computer, can find everything, anywhere (even hacking the Homeland security, that should be one of the most secured systems of the world). Conclusion: She is a true supreme genius and her little computer is the central mainframe of Planet Earth, Krypton and some lost asteriods.


Do we still want to talk about realism?

[pixiedust]

Originally posted by Timester
Let see the realism of Smallville (without talking about Krypton or anything related, including FOTW).

Lionel getting out of the jail, cleaned of all charges, with help of the Teagues. Conclusion: the Teagues are the rulers of the world.

The Luthor mansion, that is attacked and assaulted every single week. Conclusion: the Mansion should be Fortress Luthor by now.

Chloe, and her little computer, can find everything, anywhere (even hacking the Homeland security, that should be one of the most secured systems of the world). Conclusion: She is a true supreme genius and her little computer is the central mainframe of Planet Earth, Krypton and some lost asteriods.


Do we still want to talk about realism?

Thank you! Very well said.

But you see the problem here is not what is realistic and what is not. Realism, morals, values and standards only apply when compared to Lois, not to any of these other characters... then not so much. It's just another reason to trash Lois' character.

I have no problem holding Lois responsible for her faults and shortcomings. She isn't perfect. Sometimes I would like to kick the writers for the things they make her say and do.

But if you hold Lois up for her faults and unrealistic behavior then it is only fair to do the same with the other characters. But unfortunately that is not the case. It's perfectly okay to hold Lois accountable but let's not turn that same measure on anyone else, especially Chloe.

Fair is fair and the same rules should apply to everyone. All the characters have their faults. I just have a problem when they are all not measured with the same stick.

Let's call a spade a spade. A lot of the criticsm of Lois' character isn't honest con crit. I have no problem with honest con crit if it is applied across the board with all the characters.

Lois not being qualified for this job is no more unrealistic than Chloe not being in jail for all the data bases she has hacked over the last five years. Hacking isn't getting something that you haven't earned like Lois. It's breaking into someplace you have no right to be. It's illegal. She even admitted it herself to Clark in Onyx that what she was doing wasn't legal by breaking into the hospital system.

This is just one more way of bashing a character in favor of a more preferable one.

[SnarkMasterJ]

Alright. So some people are Lois fans, and some people aren't. I get that.

Here are the facts:

- Lois never actually graduated from high school
- Lois got kicked out of college for misconduct and lude behavior
- Lois squated at the Kent farm for a whole half a season -- because she had nothing better to do
- Lois took over Martha's former job and gets to stay in the Talon apartment to boot -- because she has nothing better to do
- Lois is Senator Martha Kent's chief of staff -- because she was the only one with nothing better to do

I don't know if anyone's sensing a pattern, but there is one. Lois seems to be the only one doing nothing with her life. Even "I can't find myself in Smallville" Lana managed a mythical pass to Met U.

And before anyone says it, let's make something clear -- Martha Kent's qualifications for senator are not a basis for comparison when referring to Lois. The choice was given her whether or not she would take up the reins from Jonathan, granted, but she earned the love and respect from the voters all by herself, as did Jonathan. And she worked hard as a mother and wife long before any mentionings of state seats becoming available.

As for Lois not having enough time, or as much time as other cast, for her character to develop -- that's bull. They've given Justice League characters and FOTWs more development in single episodes than they've done with her for a whole season and a half. If they wanted to show Lois on a definitive path, they would. But they haven't. They've just given her a mythologically convenient name, an abrasive and abhorrently obnoxious attitude, and a big ol' pile of darn good luck. It's insulting.

There's a difference between being called Lois Lane and being Lois Lane.

[Timester]

Originally posted by SnarkMasterJ
- Lois never actually graduated from high school
- Lois got kicked out of college for misconduct and lude behavior

And before anyone says it, let's make something clear -- Martha Kent's qualifications for senator are not a basis for comparison when referring to Lois. The choice was given her whether or not she would take up the reins from Jonathan, granted, but she earned the love and respect from the voters all by herself, as did Jonathan. And she worked hard as a mother and wife long before any mentionings of state seats becoming available.

I also want to finish this myth once and for all. WE don't know NOTHING about her grades or qualifications. Nothing. Not even one thing. So, we can all automatically stop assuming that she is dumb or not qualified. The only reason why she didn't enter to Met U at first was because she skipped classes, but that means that she had grades and was qualified for Met U. Also, she dealt with Generals from all over the world since she was a little kid. That's only but a HUGE plus.

Yes, I also have problems of they using Lois for eye-candy, but that doesn't mean that she is dumb, bimbo, whatever.


Originally posted by SnarkMasterJ
There's a difference between being called Lois Lane and being Lois Lane.

Chlois belongs to its own thread. We are talking about Lois getting the job, not if she is Lois Lane or not. But, by the way, if she is not, then what's the problem with her getting the job?

[MBCorp]

Originally posted by pixiedust
Thank you! Very well said.

But you see the problem here is not what is realistic and what is not. Realism, morals, values and standards only apply when compared to Lois, not to any of these other characters... then not so much. It's just another reason to trash Lois' character.

I have no problem holding Lois responsible for her faults and shortcomings. She isn't perfect. Sometimes I would like to kick the writers for the things they make her say and do.

But if you hold Lois up for her faults and unrealistic behavior then it is only fair to do the same with the other characters. But unfortunately that is not the case. It's perfectly okay to hold Lois accountable but let's not turn that same measure on anyone else, especially Chloe.

Fair is fair and the same rules should apply to everyone. All the characters have their faults. I just have a problem when they are all not measured with the same stick.

Let's call a spade a spade. A lot of the criticsm of Lois' character isn't honest con crit. I have no problem with honest con crit if it is applied across the board with all the characters.

Lois not being qualified for this job is no more unrealistic than Chloe not being in jail for all the data bases she has hacked over the last five years. Hacking isn't getting something that you haven't earned like Lois. It's breaking into someplace you have no right to be. It's illegal. She even admitted it herself to Clark in Onyx that what she was doing wasn't legal by breaking into the hospital system.

This is just one more way of bashing a character in favor of a more preferable one.

Word. Lois gets critisized for alot of things that the other characters are given free passes for.

[SnarkMasterJ]

Originally posted by Timester
Chlois belongs to its own thread. We are talking about Lois getting the job, not if she is Lois Lane or not.

I don't need to be told where my posts belong. I made mention to the fact that I don't find this Lois's actions to be reminiscent of any Lois I've seen -- I never said who I thought exemplified her character more fully. You drew those conclusions yourself.

And the thread started out being based on Lois receiving opportunities that she does not earn. That's all my post indicated.

[Timester]

Originally posted by SnarkMasterJ
I don't need to be told where my posts belong. I made mention to the fact that I don't find this Lois's actions to be reminiscent of any Lois I've seen -- I never said who I thought exemplified her character more fully. You drew those conclusions yourself.

And the thread started out being based on Lois receiving opportunities that she does not earn. That's all my post indicated.

And then if she is not Lois for you, why there is a problem with her getting the job? She can't be and not be Lois at the same time.

[PKII]

Originally posted by sstray72
I can't get hookups like her, and I have a DEGREE!! It's not your education its about who you know. ;)

[SnarkMasterJ]

Originally posted by Timester
And then if she is not Lois for you, why there is a problem with her getting the job? She can't be and not be Lois at the same time.

Me thinking she's not Lois doesn't have any bearing that, for the time being, SHE IS SMALLVILLE'S LOIS, and I therefore warrant any displeasure with the character that I choose. Nothing's been proven or disproven, and nothing can be, because the plot just hasn't gotten there yet.

[Timester]

Originally posted by pixiedust
Lois not being qualified for this job is no more unrealistic than Chloe not being in jail for all the data bases she has hacked over the last five years. Hacking isn't getting something that you haven't earned like Lois. It's breaking into someplace you have no right to be. It's illegal. She even admitted it herself to Clark in Onyx that what she was doing wasn't legal by breaking into the hospital system.

Seriously, sometimes I don't understand the praise of calling Chloe's hacking "investigation". Especially systems like Homeland Security and Hospital Centers.


Originally posted by SnarkMasterJ
Me thinking she's not Lois doesn't have any bearing that, for the time being, SHE IS SMALLVILLE'S LOIS, and I therefore warrant any displeasure with the character that I choose. Nothing's been proven or disproven, and nothing can be, because the plot just hasn't gotten there yet.

Then she is Lois and you have problems with how she is written, exactly like I have problems with Clark. But I never deny the fact that Clark is the future Clark Kent/Superman, because if I believe he wasn't, I would care less of what he does or not.

We can't have both Chlois and EDLois at the same time.

[Kryptonian Snake]

Originally posted by Timester
Let see the realism of Smallville (without talking about Krypton or anything related, including FOTW).

Lionel getting out of the jail, cleaned of all charges, with help of the Teagues. Conclusion: the Teagues are the rulers of the world.

The Luthor mansion, that is attacked and assaulted every single week. Conclusion: the Mansion should be Fortress Luthor by now.

Chloe, and her little computer, can find everything, anywhere (even hacking the Homeland security, that should be one of the most secured systems of the world). Conclusion: She is a true supreme genius and her little computer is the central mainframe of Planet Earth, Krypton and some lost asteriods.


Do we still want to talk about realism?
You forgot to mention the fact that Chloe never gets arrested for breaking and entering (i.e., breaking into Luthorcorp in Truth and breaking into the warehouse in Solitude).

Lois has been handed her jobs, but I got the impression that she was a capable campaign manager for Jonathan. We saw her on the phone with donors and scheduling meetings for him in Fanatic and Lockdown, and Jonathan even mentioned that she'd really grown into her role. Also, she wasn't getting paid for her work, which kind offsets the fact that she didn't earn it (it does for me, anyway).

Besides that, Martha got the seat in the first place simply because Jonathan died, not because she campaigned and proved herself to the voters. She also got her jobs with Lionel and at the Talon through nepotism as well. She and Lois are two peas in the same pod.

[SnarkMasterJ]

Originally posted by Timester
Then she is Lois and you have problems with how she is written, exactly like I have problems with Clark. But I never deny the fact that Clark is the future Clark Kent/Superman, because if I believe he wasn't, I would care less of what he does or not.

We can't have both Chlois and EDLois at the same time.

I'm not having a Chlois/EDLois debate with you, nor had I ever intended to have one, because like you said, this is not the place for it. So stop trying to start one.

And as for you expecting me to care less about what Lois does or not because of my personal opinion of her, well, that's a fallacy in your logic. It's called bifurcation -- if it's not one way, it's the other. No ifs, ands, or buts. You can't put people's opinions in a box, and you can't make black and white of a gray area.

[MetroGirl06]

Geez, y'all have to stop hating on Lois, it's the freaking writer's fault! We all know Lois's real destiny, but it seems that the writers spend more time on clana then some character development for Lois. Smallville isn't real!!! Smallville has been written up, so y'all have to start basing on that fact other than juging the characters like threy're real people. It's not even Lois's fault, she never asked for any of the jobs.

It's not the character, it's the writers!

[ma200]

Also, she wasn't getting paid for her work, which kind offsets the fact that she didn't earn it (it does for me, anyway).

Uh Huh...if she wasn't getting paid for being a campaign manager, then why the heck does anyone have a problem with her being one when she ain't being paid jack?


Originally posted by Kryptonian Snake
You forgot to mention the fact that Chloe never gets arrested for breaking and entering (i.e., breaking into Luthorcorp in Truth and breaking into the warehouse in Solitude).

Lois has been handed her jobs, but I got the impression that she was a capable campaign manager for Jonathan. We saw her on the phone with donors and scheduling meetings for him in Fanatic and Lockdown, and Jonathan even mentioned that she'd really grown into her role. Also, she wasn't getting paid for her work, which kind offsets the fact that she didn't earn it (it does for me, anyway).

Besides that, Martha got the seat in the first place simply because Jonathan died, not because she campaigned and proved herself to the voters. She also got her jobs with Lionel and at the Talon through nepotism as well. She and Lois are two peas in the same pod.

Took the words right out of my mouth.

[wildcat]

I really think someone at SV reads this board. Did you all notice how when Martha offered Lois the job, she said something like "You deserve it, after all Jonathan couldn't have been elected without you".

I swear to god it was like they were directly answering everyone here who say Lois gets things handed to her, almost like they were being defensive about it! It made me chuckle.

[LastFatherOfKrypton]

Let's see!

Lois has gone from...

1. High School drop-out....to

2. College drop-out....to

3. Freeload at the Kent's....to

4. Coffee/Capaccino & Muffinpeddling at Lex Luthor's owned Talon....to

5. Jonathan Kent's Campaign Manager....to

6. Now Senator Martha Kent's Chief of Staff

Next stop a referral to the Daily Planet??:confused:

[cotton candy girl]

Originally posted by RemDiamond
The difference is that even if we don't see all of what Chloe does, it is mentioned in passing or everytime we see her she is at the Daily Planet. She mentions pulling all nighters for a deadline ect... There are no such references to Lois. I haven't ever seen any mention or shout out that she works hard at all at anything. Being in only 13 shows isn't an excuse. If the writers were interested in advancing Lois they would. Lionel is only in 13 but we know so much about his character and so much about how he has his hands dirty in so many areas. He is fully fleshed out as a character. Lois isn't and as a main character in Superman, she not only should be but she should be a priority regardless of how late to the show she arrived.

This is a good point. When we do see Lois onscreen, we could at least see some inclination that she's working hard at something.

[batfinx]

Let's see!

Lana has gone from...

1. High School cheerleader....to

2. one-day waitress....to

3. Coffee/Capaccino & Muffinpeddling owner of the Talon with Lex Luthor's money....to

4. Freeloader at the Sullivan's....to

5. art school dropout....to

6. astronomer

Next stop a referral to LuthorCorp?? :lol:

Chloe went from a high school paper to the Daily Planet basement. Clark went from farmboy, to football player, to college dropout and back to farmboy.

Back on topic, Jonathan made Lois his campaign manager when she pointed out that Jennings old campaign manager was trying to turn the Kents into something they weren't, especially Jonathan and that he was putting words in Jonathan's mouth in the press. That at least showed Lois was keeping up with everything dealing with the campaign, which was more than Jonathan's own son was doing.

Lois was very efficient as his campaign manager and was even ready to take the fall for Martha borrowing money from Lionel until Martha confessed. Lois's combination of efficiency and loyalty obviously impressed Martha. Why not?

[LastFatherOfKrypton]

Originally posted by batfinx
Let's see!

Lana has gone from...

1. High School cheerleader....to

2. one-day waitress....to

3. Coffee/Capaccino & Muffinpeddling owner of the Talon with Lex Luthor's money....to

4. Freeloader at the Sullivan's....to

5. art school dropout....to

6. astronomer

Next stop a referral to LuthorCorp?? :lol:

Chloe went from a high school paper to the Daily Planet basement. Clark went from farmboy, to football player, to college dropout and back to farmboy.

Back on topic, Jonathan made Lois his campaign manager when she pointed out that Jennings old campaign manager was trying to turn the Kents into something they weren't, especially Jonathan and that he was putting words in Jonathan's mouth in the press. That at least showed Lois was keeping up with everything dealing with the campaign, which was more than Jonathan's own son was doing.

Lois was very efficient as his campaign manager and was even ready to take the fall for Martha borrowing money from Lionel until Martha confessed. Lois's combination of efficiency and loyalty obviously impressed Martha. Why not?


Interesting rebuttal to the chronological assessement given.....could not resist could you???:lol:

All is true.....that map only show Lois upward progression outside of the conventional mold we experience and see.

Millionaires are made without ever going to high school or college.....my rundown shows the same a similar patten for Lois.

[Coyote]

Politicians often hand out jobs to the people who helped them with their campaign. Sometimes these people have little or no formal qualifications, especially for a low level office such as Kansas state senator. As long as they are capable of doing the job, there is no reason that matters.

Also, Lois is hot, and on TV the hottest people always get the best jobs, and rarely do much of anything that resembles work.

[Timester]

And I can't believe that everyone forgot this one, Lois was the campaign manager that WON the elections with the Kents, especially against the billionaire Lex Luthor. What more is needed?

[LastFatherOfKrypton]

Originally posted by Timester
And I can't believe that everyone forgot this one, Lois was the campaign manager that WON the elections with the Kents, especially against the billionaire Lex Luthor. What more is needed?


What more is needed?

Superman?;)

[SteveS]

Originally posted by wildcat
I really think someone at SV reads this board. Did you all notice how when Martha offered Lois the job, she said something like "You deserve it, after all Jonathan couldn't have been elected without you".

I swear to god it was like they were directly answering everyone here who say Lois gets things handed to her, almost like they were being defensive about it! It made me chuckle.

You are exactly correct. They knew it was BS but wrote it as a defensive measure, pre-emptively speaking.

[Timester]

Originally posted by LastFatherOfKrypton
What more is needed?

Superman?;)

To get to Chief of Staff of someone she helped (doing almost all the job, like organizing all the campaign) winning the elections?

[MBCorp]

Originally posted by Timester
And I can't believe that everyone forgot this one, Lois was the campaign manager that WON the elections with the Kents, especially against the billionaire Lex Luthor. What more is needed?

Exactly. Personally I find that more realistic than Chloe and her super computer and her tons and tons of connections.:p

[afro_maestro]

Originally posted by LastingChlarker
Lois...sigh...quite frankly I think I'd enjoy her much more if she was shown as actually working for what she wants and earning things in life. So far, none of that. Doesn't make for a strong character IMO.

i disagree. The most lazy and slovenly person in a show can still be a strong character. Jus cuz she got a bunch of lucky breaks after quitting the hard way, doesnt mean she's gonna be a weak character.

[Naomi]

Originally posted by batfinx
Back on topic, Jonathan made Lois his campaign manager when she pointed out that Jennings old campaign manager was trying to turn the Kents into something they weren't, especially Jonathan and that he was putting words in Jonathan's mouth in the press.
Well Lois approved of borrowing money from Lionel, so in her own way she was also corrupting Jonathon's platform.

And I think Lois did a good job, but it's not like she single-handedly won the election. There was a problem with Lois spending all the campaign funds, and it looking like Jonathon would have to drop out. It was Lionel getting involved (working against Lex, giving money) that had a lot to do with Jonathon winning the election I think. The writers even have Lionel saying "we won the election" when he calls Jonathon.

Martha seems to suggest it was all down to Lois, but if it wasn't for Lionel's "helping hand" it's likely they would never have made it that far.

[captaincharisma]

How comes there is not a thread about how Martha got the senator job in her lap? Ahh see, just another excuse to bash Lois once again.

[Naomi]

Well I don't understand why Martha got the job either, considering no one voted for her. But people said that's how it works in American elections if the partner dies?

And Lois isn't qualified to be Chief Of Staff. It is silly for Martha to make comments like clearly Lois is destined for more. We have not seen Lois on Smallville, written as a determined go-getter, so how is it so clear?

If anything the characterisation is of a slacker type in her early 20's who doesn't yet know what she wants to do. There's nothing wrong with that, but when they start throwing ridiculous anvils at her, it doesn't help with the writing of a consistent character journey.

If Lois fought her way into college, or decided she herself wants more than being a waitress in Smallville, than okay. But she only does more, because people offer her jobs. That's not motivation or suggesting she is destined for greater things at all, not when she seems perfectly happy at the place that she's at.