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biggkoz
04-06-2006, 08:48 PM
I dont know about you but that was pretty sweet.

shaula luthor
04-06-2006, 08:49 PM
south america???
Brazil, Brazil?????? :P

biggkoz
04-06-2006, 08:58 PM
Im pretty sure last time I checked brazil in south america ? :D

scoff
04-06-2006, 09:16 PM
Originally posted by biggkoz
Im pretty sure last time I checked brazil in south america ? :D

Yeah, but Honduras isn't. Maybe that's what she meant.

Poetic Chaos
04-06-2006, 09:17 PM
That was ridiculous. He's not the friggin' flash.

biggkoz
04-06-2006, 09:17 PM
Yeah I just checked it, and changed my post.

Slytherin Princess
04-06-2006, 09:21 PM
he ran to Central America, actually.

j-kent
04-06-2006, 09:58 PM
Originally posted by Poetic Chaos
That was ridiculous. He's not the friggin' flash.

Yeah he's not, but he almost as fast as him. The thing is Flash is obviously faster than Supes, and he has more potential, but Superman is not far. Superman in comics and shows often travels the world. That's what makes him the global hero he is.

Central America isn't too far South from Kansas anyway...

Red-Krypto
04-06-2006, 10:02 PM
I thought it was cool how they showed him running to CA but I thought it was a little much, even for the Superman to be..

superspider02
04-06-2006, 10:08 PM
it was a pretty cool scene i liked how they pan to a global view then in closer was a nice shot.

bunkmania
04-06-2006, 10:08 PM
superman runs/flys at light speed and even faster.

clana20
04-06-2006, 10:13 PM
I thought it was sweet.

Red-Krypto
04-06-2006, 10:15 PM
OK dumb question.. but doesn't he get tired? Or is he immune to that too...

StealthyMakoto
04-06-2006, 10:16 PM
I thought it was sweet too... didn't find it that unbelievable.

tejdog1
04-06-2006, 10:51 PM
That was unbelieveable. And no return trip back? And he didn't find a thing. And he didn't think it *might* be a trap. BDA.

Chlark Kent
04-07-2006, 05:26 AM
I loved it, but one thing always bothers me about those scenes. How does Clark now how to get there. Just being able to run fast doesn't mean you know where you're going. Did the cave wall upload him with mapquest or something? Maybe I'm just nit-picking.

ClLaLeChFAN01
04-07-2006, 06:09 AM
Chole did say Hondorous (sorry for the miss spelling), So perhaps Clark just got lucky with the village he picked. OF course the running was pretty cool!

scoff
04-07-2006, 08:05 AM
Maybe Clark got lucky or maybe he had GPS and the village's coordinates.

Scene was awesome though, loved seeing him blurring through the forest.

TackleDummy8
04-07-2006, 08:11 AM
That was a pretty awsome scene. How it zoomed out into space and then back in. IT was pretty awsome.

biggkoz
04-07-2006, 08:16 AM
It reminded me of google earth and then I went on google earth and realized Im stupid cuz he ran to CENTRAL america not SOUTH america haha.

greggbray
04-07-2006, 08:30 AM
As someone else stated, Clark's run to Central America is consistent with the comics. Take a look at 'Birthright'--he's all over the map in that one.

I loved the effect, and the red-streak. It really felt like Superman in action. And yes, the super running is over-the-top, but so is heat vision, super strength, flying, leaping tall buildings, etc. It's part of his persona, and it's what he's building up to.

As with locaitons? He can run so fast he can be in Honduras in MINUTES. A few seconds here, a few seconds there, and eventually he can find the trail.

TackleDummy8
04-08-2006, 07:50 AM
i wish i could run that fast. :(

CeltaniC
04-08-2006, 08:05 AM
Originally posted by TackleDummy8
That was a pretty awsome scene. How it zoomed out into space and then back in. IT was pretty awsome. Yeah superb! loved it

SirJono
04-08-2006, 08:20 AM
Yup, great scene, one of the best special effects I've seen on the show in several episodes.

angelus666
04-08-2006, 09:16 AM
Originally posted by Red-Krypto
I thought it was cool how they showed him running to CA but I thought it was a little much, even for the Superman to be..

Yeah my thought's exactly. Cool CGI but to fast even for supes.

Kal El A.K.A AKIRA
04-08-2006, 10:13 AM
Ok all of you out there that claim that clark was running around to fast even for Supe's are being a little rediculous. If any of you can remember that one episode of Lois& Clark where Lois was walking around her apartment talking to Clark about why their relationship wouldn't work and she kept calling out specific items like chinese food from a specific area in china and chocolate from the swiss and stuff like that. Superman was running off and coming back within seconds with a hand full of stuff. The fact is that superman can break the soundbarrier without really trying. Yes the Flash was faster than Clark in that episode because his body only has to focus on one power as opposed to Supes having to balance all his powers. Being that superspeed was a power that Clark developed early, him being able to rin from Metropolis to Honduras that fast isn't much of a stretch being that Metropolis is a portside city and central america is not that far away if you run, jump, skip over the ocean.

What about the fact that Clark was struggling to speak to the natives. Superman or Clark is Super intelligent and should be able to breakdown any dialect and then be able to speak it. (But now I may just be nit picking)

I can't wait until next week!!!!

angelus666
04-08-2006, 11:26 AM
Originally posted by Kal El A.K.A AKIRA
If any of you can remember that one episode of Lois& Clark where Lois was walking around her apartment talking to Clark about why their relationship wouldn't work and she kept calling out specific items like chinese food from a specific area in china and chocolate from the swiss and stuff like that.

Ummm you do know that Lois and Clark didn't keep true to the superman mythology at all right. Besides this is Clark as a teen not a fully powered man.

Red-Krypto
04-09-2006, 08:38 PM
I recall Pete once saying that Clark was gonna get hotdogs from a place in Metropolis in the epi 'Truth' when Chloe can make people tell the truth and Pete metnioned it would take Clark only 10 minutes.

Did Clark get faster since then? Or am I nit picking too... Or did his speed increase 95% since that season?

afro_maestro
04-09-2006, 09:41 PM
good point. AND i remember in Season 3 0r 2, when that Ryan kid with the mind-reading power was dying, Clark raced to find the doctor that could help just before he took get on his helicopter. That running scene took at least a full minute and it was inside USA.....he must've gotten a helluva lot faster.

Theshadow129x
04-09-2006, 10:58 PM
yu all have to remember that the older clark gets the mre powerful he becomes becasuse he is getting more exposure to the sun. clark hasnt tapped into his true power and honestly he never really has. what we see superman able to do isnt all of his true power.

son2380
04-09-2006, 11:18 PM
Of course clark has gotten faster in the episode with the flash clark didn't have the ability to run on water. But in Aqua we see clark running away from Luther Corp with Aquaman on water. clark has gotten fast enough to run on water. His speed is increasing at the same rate as his body is absorbing the sun. If you don't believe me then the only thing I can tell you is. This is a fictional tv show stop trying to use real world Logic to a comic book story. Real world logic compared to comic book logic or (fictional Logic) will never make sense because the writers will do anything to produce a story.

edwinisdenim
04-10-2006, 07:36 AM
Originally posted by son2380
clark has gotten fast enough to run on water. His speed is increasing at the same rate as his body is absorbing the sun. .


The Aquaman episode i don think he is running on the water. He was actually swimming but slower compared to Aquaman (look at the end when he escaped with Aquaman. The Blue one was behind the other one). By the way, Clark can never run faster than Flash!! He is not meant on land but air. Just like he is not meant for water. It shows that each element has their own Superbeing.

Air - Clark (soon)
Land - Flash
Water - Aquaman.

sirconical
04-10-2006, 10:12 AM
Originally posted by Chlark Kent
I loved it, but one thing always bothers me about those scenes. How does Clark now how to get there. Just being able to run fast doesn't mean you know where you're going. Did the cave wall upload him with mapquest or something? Maybe I'm just nit-picking. And why isn't he covered in thousands of splatted insects, which were impossible to avoid them all? Or a cow he ripped in half because he blinked while he was running?


Originally posted by Red-Krypto
I recall Pete once saying that Clark was gonna get hotdogs from a place in Metropolis in the epi 'Truth' when Chloe can make people tell the truth and Pete metnioned it would take Clark only 10 minutes.

Did Clark get faster since then? Or am I nit picking too... Or did his speed increase 95% since that season? Yeah well in 10 minutes he has to wait in the queue for his hot dogs and pay for them etc. Besides, he's probably sped up bit.


Originally posted by edwinisdenim
The Aquaman episode i don think he is running on the water. He was actually swimming but slower compared to Aquaman (look at the end when he escaped with Aquaman. The Blue one was behind the other one). By the way, Clark can never run faster than Flash!! He is not meant on land but air. Just like he is not meant for water. It shows that each element has their own Superbeing.

Air - Clark (soon)
Land - Flash
Water - Aquaman. I thought the Flash could run faster than superman could fly?

I can accept Clark running that fast. Only the flash can run at the speed of light, and Clark was going slower than the speed of light anyway. I think.

HalJordan4184
04-10-2006, 10:21 AM
He was going slower than light. If he were running lightspeed, his entire trip to Honduras would have taken him less than a 14th of a second.

sirconical
04-10-2006, 10:23 AM
Originally posted by HalJordan4184
He was going slower than light. If he were running lightspeed, his entire trip to Honduras would have taken him less than a 14th of a second. I knew if I planted the seeds of the question someone would either approximate it more accurately or work it out. :)

EllenF
04-10-2006, 11:08 AM
I think that the root of the problem here is that Clark's speed hasn't been constant throughout the show, and does appear to be increasing. Someone pointed out that Pete once said (under the influence of Chloe's truth ability, so we know it was true) that he could make it from Smallville to Metropolis in "under ten minutes." Now he can make it from Smallville to Metropolis in literally the blink of an eye, before Chloe can even hang up her cell phone. He also seems able to make it to Central America very, very fast (although it's impossible to tell if they really meant that scene to be real time or not).

I can easily believe Clark is getting stronger and faster, but I kind of wish they'd drop that information into the dialogue to clarify that this is intentional, and not just a lack of continuity on the writers' parts.

There IS clearly a continuity issue on this show, since Metropolis has obviously moved from three hours from Smallville to much closer (based on all the running back and forth the non-super people do!). So I think the question is, is Clark really getting faster or are the writers just altering their universe at whim to suit the needs of the plot? If it's the first, that's fine, and quite believable even in the context of the show. If it's the second, that's not good writing!

sirconical
04-10-2006, 12:03 PM
Originally posted by EllenF
Someone pointed out that Pete once said (under the influence of Chloe's truth ability, so we know it was true) that he could make it from Smallville to Metropolis in "under ten minutes." I've said it before and I'll say it again. He can very well superspeed it somewhere to get hotdogs, but he can't make the queue move at superspeed and the purchase and change giving at superspeed. The 10 minutes could have been taken up entirely at the hotdog place.

You still have a point though. I'm not sure how much faster he is supposed to be. I cast my mind back to the superspeed sequence in Jinx where he ran off the field down the corridor where he took out Myx, released Chloe, then ran back to where a guy was looking straight at him before he left.

Also in the space of time it takes a bomb to blow up, he can run into a room for a lead blanket, take the bomb off someone's chest, then run it to a far-off well (how far I don't know) and dump it in before it finishes going off.

HalJordan4184
04-10-2006, 12:25 PM
Some people also have an overexaggerated sense of real time. That scene in Jinx, Clark didn't have to be moving very fast for all that to take place in the time it did. Even if you overestimated the distance he had to run to two miles, in lets call it a quarter second, he was moving at 28,800 miles an hour. And that's an extreme over exaggeration of how far he had to run to. At that speed, it would still take him about twenty minutes to run to Honduras. If that's what they're going for, his powers aren't just steadily increasing, they are taking exponential leaps, whenever it's convenient for the plot.

In all actuality, he moves, as was said, as fast as the plot needs him to. Much like most comics writers, they probably don't care they mucked up his speed, and power development episode to episode. It's like the Superman comic writer, who even though Superman CAN NOT fly at the speed of light or faster, had Superman travel to Saturn in four minutes. THat means he was moving, more than 14 times the speed of light. Pretty good for a guy that can't break lightspeed.

EllenF
04-10-2006, 12:34 PM
I'm glad "Jinx" was mentioned. That's the first episode I can think of where Clark moves fast enough that he can actually do superspeed stuff in front of people and be confident they won't be able to see him. I don't know how quickly he moved in that episode, but it had to be pretty fast if the large number of human eyes trained on him couldn't see him move at all.

My feeling is that Clark's superspeed abilities really increased dramatically somewhere between third and fourth season, but it'd be nice if some dialogue in some episode had confirmed this.

All about Clark
04-10-2006, 01:10 PM
Originally posted by EllenF
I'm glad "Jinx" was mentioned. That's the first episode I can think of where Clark moves fast enough that he can actually do superspeed stuff in front of people and be confident they won't be able to see him. I don't know how quickly he moved in that episode, but it had to be pretty fast if the large number of human eyes trained on him couldn't see him move at all.

My feeling is that Clark's superspeed abilities really increased dramatically somewhere between third and fourth season, but it'd be nice if some dialogue in some episode had confirmed this.

Actually dialogue has been used. In Covenent, Kara made it clear that Clark would become very powerful, suggesting that he would attain this over time. Actually, I think the show has done a great job of increasing his abilities as he ages. I have no problem with how fast he got to Honduras.

HalJordan4184
04-10-2006, 01:22 PM
I'd say they havent dont a great job, because just out of nowhere, come these huge leaps in power, that before that moment, weren't possible. We went, in literally on years time from a Clark taht can run to Metropolis in like five minutes, to a Clark that can run to Honduras in less than fifteen seconds. THat's not a steady increase, especially considering what we know about his development as a child powers wise. At this rate, he should be at twice the speed of light next thursday, and God two and half months from now! LOL :D

TKFlash
04-10-2006, 01:32 PM
At first I was like " this is freakin ridiculous" but I guess he is that fast. Nobody actually knows how fast Clark is, so thats why I was confused. Somebody said that it was 1802 miles from Kansas to Hounduras and he made it their in like 2-3 seconds so he must have been going a little over 54,000 miles an hour. Thats kind of slow compared to other speedsters.

GooN
04-10-2006, 02:29 PM
whether he should be faster/slower than what they showed, i thought it was a nice effect......one of those little things that made the show better.....i ain't gonna analyse it to death cos there's no point really interesting to read some of your posts tho......and scary for others :D

numberonekid
04-10-2006, 02:45 PM
Originally posted by Poetic Chaos
That was ridiculous. He's not the friggin' flash.
CORRECTION

Superman and Flash races:

Superman #199 (August 1967)
outcome: A TIE

Flash #175 (December 1967)
outcome: A TIE

World’s Finest #198–199 (November–December 1970)
outcome: FLASH WON (due to superman on a red sun planet)

DC Comics Presents #1–2 (August–October 1978)
outcome: none (were sidetracked)

The Adventures of Superman #463 (February 1990)
outcome: FLASH won (by few inches)

DC First: Flash/Superman (July 2002)
outcome: none (sidetracked)

Flash (second series) #209 (June 2004)
outcome: none (superman was just chasing flash)

The adventures of Superman (tv)
outcome: none (sidetracked)

sidenote: on JLU (justice league unlimited) an episode all about flash and central city, inside a musem showed a globe of superman and flash in a running pose neck-and-neck.

so you see flash has won once, you cannot count when superman was depowered due the that planets red sun.

;)

sirconical
04-10-2006, 03:02 PM
Originally posted by HalJordan4184
Some people also have an overexaggerated sense of real time. I prefer to think of it as unresearched and basically not thought through, rather than exaggerated. Exaggerated just makes it sound like I had the facts but multiplied them. I just don't gel with maths as well as some might, and just didn't even try to work it out.

HalJordan4184
04-10-2006, 03:38 PM
Actually, anything pre crisis doesn't even really count, as both SUperman, and the Flash were touted by DC as being faster than each other. Races showed that too. They always tied.

Post Crisis, they aren't even close. Superman is about fifteen notches lower than Flash on the speed scale. THe 1990 race, was the mach six Wally West. The only reason he won by a few inches, was because at mach six, Superman was topped out running. That was theonly time, other than pre crisis, they were even remotely close to being evenly matched. In the Flash, from June 2004, The Flash owned Superman. He even comments in the issue, the only reason Superman is chasing him, is because he's the only member of the JLA that even stood a remote, and very remote at that, chance of catching Wally. Superman and JLU take place in the same universe, where each character is extremely underpowered for day to day stuff. The Flash, in the JLU season two finale, owned all other characters as far as speed goes.

Basically, yes, we can say the Flash is faster, because DC says the Flash is faster. DC shows the Flash as currently being faster. And because this show is basing Clark's powers off of the post crisis, slower than Flash Clark Kent, we can also say, CLark Kent is slower than the Flash on Smallville.

I wasn't necessarily referring to your sense of time sirconical, just some poeple in general. They have this impression that a human being can move like a hundred feet, in half a second. The fact your average human, running, is only moving at about 8 miles an hour, is lost to them. They think in a second they will have moved some huge, vast, easily identifiable distance.

EllenF
04-10-2006, 03:52 PM
I just had a thought on this subject. If Clark is truly so fast that he can get to Honduras in a matter of seconds, then why on earth does he ever bother to use the cave "gateway" to get to the FOS? Surely he could just zip up north in a few seconds as well?

All about Clark
04-10-2006, 04:19 PM
Maybe, or maybe the snow would slow him down. The portal has to be faster.

sirconical
04-10-2006, 05:16 PM
Originally posted by HalJordan4184
I wasn't necessarily referring to your sense of time sirconical, just some poeple in general. They have this impression that a human being can move like a hundred feet, in half a second. The fact your average human, running, is only moving at about 8 miles an hour, is lost to them. They think in a second they will have moved some huge, vast, easily identifiable distance. OK. It was just the way you followed your sentence with a direct reference to what I'd said about Jinx. Never mind. No harm, no foul. :)

347Studboy
04-13-2006, 04:57 PM
Originally posted by EllenF
My feeling is that Clark's superspeed abilities really increased dramatically somewhere between third and fourth season, but it'd be nice if some dialogue in some episode had confirmed this.

Well, there was a scene in the season one episode "Metamorphosis" (maybe it was deleted? It's on the DVDs) where Martha remarks that "every year, Clark gets a little faster and a little stronger". And in the season one finale, "Tempest", after Clark is in the truck when it explodes he tells his parents that he "barely felt the heat, and the debris didn't leave any bruises". Martha (again) comments that as he gets older, his body must be getting stronger.

Besides, remember season one's "Hug", when Lex shot Clark and the bullets left bruises? He's definitely getting more powerful, and they've been saying so, albeit rather sporadically.

Plus it's classic Superman mythology that the longer he's exposed to the Earth's yellow sun, the stronger he gets.


Originally posted by EllenF
I just had a thought on this subject. If Clark is truly so fast that he can get to Honduras in a matter of seconds, then why on earth does he ever bother to use the cave "gateway" to get to the FOS? Surely he could just zip up north in a few seconds as well?

The only times we've ever seen him go up north, he was bringing someone with him. We didn't see how he got there on his second visit in "Reckoning", so maybe he ran then? Plus we know for sure he ran back during "Arrival".

But anyway, I don't know if he even should be able to run to the Fortress... is there land all the way up? Or would he have to swim for part of it? Can he run over water by now? I'm not really sure. I guess since he ran back, he can run up as well.


Originally posted by HalJordan4184
I'd say they havent dont a great job, because just out of nowhere, come these huge leaps in power, that before that moment, weren't possible. We went, in literally on years time from a Clark taht can run to Metropolis in like five minutes, to a Clark that can run to Honduras in less than fifteen seconds.

Clark ran to Metropolis in seconds, or perhaps minutes, in the season three episode "Extinction", when he saved Lex from being sniped by Van McNulty. That was over two years ago.


Originally posted by Red-Krypto
OK dumb question.. but doesn't he get tired? Or is he immune to that too...

Well, sure he gets tired eventually... remember in the season two episode "Ryan"? He was breathing hard by the time he got to the doctor he was after. But he's gotten much stronger since then, so it must take a lot more to make him tired nowadays.

HalJordan4184
04-13-2006, 05:54 PM
Yes, but in three years, we've gone from a Clark who can barely run like the three hundred miles it was to get to edge city, to a Clark who can run to Honduras, and not even be affected. And it took a decent amount of time to get to Edge City. It's not a matter of him jsut getting stronger, I have no problem with that. But it's that one episode, he'll do one thing, and be this fast, and then a week or two later, he's five times as fast as the week before. It's a gradual increase in power, not huge leaps, on relatively short periods of time.

347Studboy
04-13-2006, 06:30 PM
Originally posted by HalJordan4184
But it's that one episode, he'll do one thing, and be this fast, and then a week or two later, he's five times as fast as the week before. It's a gradual increase in power, not huge leaps, on relatively short periods of time.

I'm having kind of a hard time seeing this exactly, but I would be lying if I said they didn't often fit Clark's powers to the needs of the show.

I just never thought it was in huge and dramatic leaps.

IVISupermanIVI
04-13-2006, 07:32 PM
If they can use slow motion on TV why can’t they speed up the speed that Clark is moving? Who’s to say it actually only took Clark 15 seconds to get there? Looking at it literally it would be obvious, but taking into account that it saves a lot of time in the episode to not be showing everywhere Clark stops just makes sense from an editing stand point. My point is whether you want Clark to be that fast or you want Clark to be grounded to physics all you have to do is watch the episodes from a different point of view and you can make it acceptable to your theories and opinions for what is correct. Maybe they showed him going Super Speed in fast motion.

GooN
04-14-2006, 02:37 AM
Originally posted by EllenF
I just had a thought on this subject. If Clark is truly so fast that he can get to Honduras in a matter of seconds, then why on earth does he ever bother to use the cave "gateway" to get to the FOS? Surely he could just zip up north in a few seconds as well?

isn't it because he doesn't know its exact location? i mean there's nothing but snow all around, and its not as if he's been columbus exploring everytime he's been there...as far as i know anyway.

Skies2000
04-14-2006, 05:15 PM
Yeah i liked it............i love when they throw in those Superman moments.......they dont do it all the time which is why when they DO do it, it's amazing.........similar ones: clark stopping the rocket, incredible!

Dean_19
04-15-2006, 01:25 PM
It was brilliant...looked great!! With the speed thing, I don't really have a problem with how fast Clark is. I mean, yeah he gets faster and stronger as he gets older, but who says it has to be a gradual increase? It could be similar to how normal people grow, i.e. in spurts...so sometimes its gradual, sometimes its in big leaps. I don't know much about the comics, but in the original films he files around the Earth many times in a few seconds, thats gotta be lightspeed or faster, right?

In Smallville the Flash says he got his power through an accident right? I'm not sure I like the fact that someone is faster than supes through an accident whereas supes powers are natural. Also the whole sun thing confuses me, so supes is only super when he is in the vicinity of a yellow sun? When he isn't he's like a mortal? That sucks!

HalJordan4184
04-15-2006, 04:14 PM
He's a solar battery, that's why his powers dont increase in random huge spurts. They build gradually, that's why in the comics, he never had the control problems he's had. Powers didn't onset at full strength one day and that was that. His abilities started weak, and gradually grew stronger over time. It's why he's got probably the most control over his powers out of the entire DCU.

Also, the Flash is faster, it's just how it is. Even pre crisis, they never had a clear winner, and at worst, they tied for speed. It's where the Flash gets his powers from. Speedsters don't accidentally get them, it's been revealed in the comics, the speed force chooses them to get their powers. It's why every person thats ever been struck by lightning doesnt have superspeed.

Dean_19
04-15-2006, 04:38 PM
So when Bart says in 'Run' that it was an accident it wasn't really but he doesn't know it? He was chose to get the powers? I actually don't know anything about the comic universe as opposed to very little so what does pre/post crisis mean?

I think I prefer the way Clark gets his powers in SV, like the way it coincides with his hormones like in 'Heat' and the way he got his super hearing by his body compensating for lack of sight. If he's a solar battery then does that mean when the sun goes down he gets slightly weaker? If he wasn't exposed to the sun for a long period would he eventually lose all his powers?

HalJordan4184
04-15-2006, 04:56 PM
Clark discovering superhearing because he went blind, makes no sense at all. It's a power he'd have anyway, there is no reason he needs to go blind to discover it. Likewise, heat vision having a hormonal trigger is equally ludicrous. THese powers don't have chemical triggers in Kryptonians bodies, because they aren't supposed to have powers to start with. Powers are actually an adverse side effect to him being in our environment. His body is completely overcharged, and over compensating for it's environment, but that just so happens to make him super.

As for night time and all that, no, he doesn't get weaker. He's a solar battery. He builds a charge up. His cells store solar energy, for use later. His powers are a result of way too much energy being stored. Krypton orbited a much weaker red star. Being here, Clark's just gotten fat. Kryptonians evolved to live off of solar energy, rather that physical food intake. Krypton wasn't a good place for farming, so little to no food was grown anyway. As a result, Clark is essentially fat here. Too much energy intake, versus his energy output. But instead of getting literally fatter, he gets more powerful.

Also, yeah, Bart doesn't know of the speed force. Most speedsters dont. It was discovered by the third flash, wally west, that speedsters were chosen, over just randomly getting powers in accidents.

Dean_19
04-15-2006, 05:09 PM
Oh I see. I knew that he wouldn't have powers on Krypton and it was something to do with coming to our solar system that gives him powers, but I didn't know it was the sun that gave him powers. Interesting.....

The way Clark gets his powers in SV could be explained though by incorporating that. I mean, the more energy he stores from our sun, the stronger his powers get but also maybe the more powers he gains? Like maybe he had to store a certain amount of energy before his heat vision had enough energy to kick in etc?

347Studboy
04-16-2006, 12:09 AM
Originally posted by HalJordan4184
Clark discovering superhearing because he went blind, makes no sense at all. It's a power he'd have anyway, there is no reason he needs to go blind to discover it. Likewise, heat vision having a hormonal trigger is equally ludicrous. THese powers don't have chemical triggers in Kryptonians bodies, because they aren't supposed to have powers to start with.

Okay, granted, Smallville did fudge the origin of some of Clark's powers pretty big. But you at least have to admit it was worth Chloe's line in "Blank" - "Spontaneous combustion? Didn't need to know about that one."

Speaking of heat vision, they actually messed up with how it supposedly works in the episode "Perry", where Clark gets really angry and his heat vision suddenly goes off. I guess there's no escaping plot holes here and there.

TKFlash
04-16-2006, 01:38 AM
I liked that run to Honduras, it was cool; but a lot of you are right about his powers fluctuating. I don't mind how fast he is as long as he isn't as powerful as his adult self or too powerful.

HalJordan4184
04-16-2006, 10:08 AM
Dean-19, that's whats going on. But they aren't starting them off weaker, and then building in strength, he starts off, extremely noticeably super. Like superhearing, in the comics, he gradual could hear more and more, and farther and farther. It's not like one day it blasted on full bore, and he went nuts trying to figure out what was going on.

With heat vision, it was one of his last powers to develop, because it's the biggest drain on his energy reserves.

Dean_19
04-16-2006, 02:42 PM
I see your point. I suppose having the powers come on fast and Clark having to control them is more dramatic narrative-wise for a TV series than all his powers being there from the start and gradually increasing in power........The way SV has done it is geared towards the weekly format of the show, introducing new material to keep it fresh etc.