The Very end of the Episode

[Meteor Freak]

What is braniac's goal with creating all of those clones? Why does he need so many, obviously Clark would not be able to stop 4 or 5 Brainiac's he could barely stop one of them without Chloe's help. What is Clark gunna do to stop them all? Ask Jor-El for help? Sorry if this was discussed before I didin't see it.

[UpandAtom]

It's definetely a big challenge. For all we know, Fine could hundreds of copies and Clark had enough difficulty getting rid of one.

[LOONEY]

oh my god FINE IS JUST PART OF THE SHIP!!!!!!!!!!! He is just a few drops of that kick ass ship...they could make 50 of him and 50 women that can do the same thing this is just another aspect of the real power and evilness of the ship.

[muffinpeddler]

My theories on Brainiac: I belive he is composed of thousands upon thousands of Kryptonian nanobots, that must periodically return to the ship to recharge. I believe the "Samples" are deadly diseases, such as Ebola or the Clench, Aids, Maleria, etc. I believe he is trying to replicate an actual Kryptonian virus, to either infect Clark, or infect his loved ones and force him to free Zod.

[thedarknight]

At least we know that the ship is where his core program resides. Seems like he needs some kind of pathogen in order to create clones.

[Elite]

Originally posted by Meteor Freak
What is braniac's goal with creating all of those clones? Why does he need so many, obviously Clark would not be able to stop 4 or 5 Brainiac's he could barely stop one of them without Chloe's help. What is Clark gunna do to stop them all? Ask Jor-El for help? Sorry if this was discussed before I didin't see it.

Usually in 'multiple clone' storylines, the persons power is divided equally amongst each clone.
If this is true here, the more Brainiacs there are, the less power each has.

I dont think his plan is to do an Agent Smiths Vs Neo thing though...

[The Shadow]

I think the SHIP is Brainiac.

He doesn't need the viruses to multiple. It's obvious that he could do this all along.

He figured in the beginning he could trick Clark into freeing Zod after those other Evil Kryptonian's failed and Clark trapped them in the Phantom Zone.

I think Zod created Brainiac back on Krypton and was either planning on using him someway and that's probably part of the reason he was imprisoned in the Phantom Zone. Shortly after that Krypton probably exploded and Jor-El and the others never got a chance to destory Brainiac and those other Krypton's and Brainiac "escaped" to some degree but were probably caught in the explosion and trapped inside the meteor fragments.

Brainiac's goal is to remake Krypton by using Earth and then free Zod so Zod can rule. I think the viruses he's gathering are going to be released world wide if Clark doesn't help free Zod. Brainaic is going to hold the world hostage because he know's Clark loves the human's so much.

I think the whole reason that Jor-El and the others found Earth is because they where searching for a new plante to enhabit because the knew Krypton wasn't going to last very long they just didn't know how long. They found Earth and the realised the yellow sun gave them super abilities and then decided not to colonize it because of people like Zod who would use that power for evil. Zod knew of Earth and he and his followers probably tried to figure out a way to escape to it but he's was caught before his plan could be full realised.

[UpandAtom]

Originally posted by Elite
Usually in 'multiple clone' storylines, the persons power is divided equally amongst each clone.
If this is true here, the more Brainiacs there are, the less power each has.

I dont think his plan is to do an Agent Smiths Vs Neo thing though...

That doesn't seem to be the case here. The four Fines sped off simultaneously with the same speed as the original.

[Elite]

Originally posted by UpandAtom
That doesn't seem to be the case here. The four Fines sped off simultaneously with the same speed as the original.

well yeah, they would the same abilities. But maybe the power of it is weaker (i.e. less superstrength, weaker heatvision)

[Meteor Freak]

Good theories..I like the Shadow's theory about holding the world hostage unless Clark does what Brainiac wants. That could be in the season finale..

[muffinpeddler]

I'm still going with "Kryptonian Nanobots". See my earlier post.

[UpandAtom]

Maybe the ship is the real Brainiac and Milton Fine is just a tiny portion of his power.

[PATMAN]

I think he goes to the shp and uses the blood vials to create more.

It sounded like he said

"We need more samples"

[UpandAtom]

Was the virus in the beginning Earthly origin or Kryptonian?

[PATMAN]

I think it's Kryptonian, a lot like Marthas earlier ths year

[Pal-El]

Looks like an earth virus to me.

How would a kryptonian virus get here?

Plus there were the puny earthlings at the begining searching for samples too.

Infidels.

[CallMeClark]

I did not see him as cloning himself. I saw it as him having the power to divide himself...

[Watching Smallville]

If it were Kryptonian, he wouldn't need samples from people. He would just do what he did w/ Martha. I think it's human -- like someone else said on the board, probably to infect people to clear the planet for Zod and his minions. :eek:

[ISUZU]

Originally posted by The Shadow
I think the SHIP is Brainiac.

He doesn't need the viruses to multiple. It's obvious that he could do this all along.

He figured in the beginning he could trick Clark into freeing Zod after those other Evil Kryptonian's failed and Clark trapped them in the Phantom Zone.

I think Zod created Brainiac back on Krypton and was either planning on using him someway and that's probably part of the reason he was imprisoned in the Phantom Zone. Shortly after that Krypton probably exploded and Jor-El and the others never got a chance to destory Brainiac and those other Krypton's and Brainiac "escaped" to some degree but were probably caught in the explosion and trapped inside the meteor fragments.

Brainiac's goal is to remake Krypton by using Earth and then free Zod so Zod can rule. I think the viruses he's gathering are going to be released world wide if Clark doesn't help free Zod. Brainaic is going to hold the world hostage because he know's Clark loves the human's so much.

I think the whole reason that Jor-El and the others found Earth is because they where searching for a new plante to enhabit because the knew Krypton wasn't going to last very long they just didn't know how long. They found Earth and the realised the yellow sun gave them super abilities and then decided not to colonize it because of people like Zod who would use that power for evil. Zod knew of Earth and he and his followers probably tried to figure out a way to escape to it but he's was caught before his plan could be full realised.

Zod never created Braniac - it was Jor-El who created him on Krypton. Jor-El was Kryptons leading scientist. Braniac became uncontrollable and was giving the wrong information about the state of planet Krypton. However, Jor-El knew this but the other leading council members would not listen to Jor-El and believed the output coming from Braniac the computer. Zod was a former general for the planet who was responsible for its security but he wanted to become the dictator and became a criminal who tried to overthrow the Council. I think Braniac sees Zod as the ideal leader.

I think you are right about the ship being Braniac and the person acting the part (lets call him Spike) - is just a personification of Braniac, which allows Braniac to interract and move around with the rest.

[muffinpeddler]

Originally posted by pal-el
Looks like an earth virus to me.

How would a kryptonian virus get here?



Perhaps he's trying to use the viruses on earth , in some sort of bio-hazard brew, to replicate a Kryptonian plague he is not able to recreate.

[Pal-El]

Originally posted by ISUZU
Zod never created Braniac - it was Jor-El who created him on Krypton. Jor-El was Kryptons leading scientist. Braniac became uncontrollable and was giving the wrong information about the state of planet Krypton. However, Jor-El knew this but the other leading council members would not listen to Jor-El and believed the output coming from Braniac the computer. Zod was a former general for the planet who was responsible for its security but he wanted to become the dictator and became a criminal who tried to overthrow the Council. I think Braniac sees Zod as the ideal leader.

That hasnt actually confirmed by anyone yet has it?

Its just a popular theory on these boards. Its a theory I like, but its still just speculation

[The Shadow]

Well...

It could be that Jor-El created Brainiac and then Zod highjacked it and tried to use it against the Kryptonians in some fashion.

Whatever the case maybe Brainiac and two Kryptonian loyalists to Zod escaped Krypton's destruction.

I'm thinking the Brainiac ship and it's crew went into some kind of suspended animation. When Clark united the fragments it jumped started any Kryptonian tech that was still left and that's why the ship started up again and it probably acted as a homing beacon of some kind.

[ISUZU]

No one hijacked Braniac - Braniac is AI - and had over time developed ideas of its own.

[Pal-El]

Originally posted by CallMeClark
I did not see him as cloning himself. I saw it as him having the power to divide himself...

I think your probably right there.

[The Shadow]

Originally posted by ISUZU
No one hijacked Braniac - Braniac is AI - and had over time developed ideas of its own.


And you know this how?

I've watched every episode of the show and I haven't seen them give any explination of what Brainiac truely is or even refer to him as "Brainiac". I think Chloe MAY have said something off the cuff but I don't even think she said the name.

I don't even understand why they used the name Brainiac to begin with. Even though they used Milton Fine as the name he goes under on the show and it's his alter ego in the old comic stories the way their portraying the actual character is more in line with the way the Eradicator acted in the books.

If "Brainiac" is acting on his own then why were two Kryptonian disciples of Zod with him?

Just because something is AI doesn't mean it can't be manipulated or reprogrammed into something else.

Of course none of us know for sure what is going on and all of this is speculation but to come out and make it sound like you know for a fact what you stated is just plain absurd.

[muffinpeddler]

We call him Brainiac because Al & Miles have stated that he IS Brainiac.

[Ketchup]

Anyone else thought "Agent Smith" on this one?

[The Shadow]

Originally posted by muffinpeddler
We call him Brainiac because Al & Miles have stated that he IS Brainiac.


Yes, I know they've stated that he is Brainiac and that's the character their using.

What I was saying is that his origin and the way their using him on the series is more along the lines of the Eradicator from the books.

I don't know why they just didn't use that character. Maybe they thought Brainiac was a more recognizable villain to the general public.

I would also hope that they would atleast have Fine at some point refer to himself as Brainiac to Clark so they atleast say the name on the show.

I can understand with the other "guest heroes" on the show not using their comic book handles like Flash, Aquaman or Cyborg because their not using them yet at this point in time but Fine IS Brainiac and I'm guessing that's the name this AI was given back on Krypton so hopefully they'll use it.

[xrayvision]

Originally posted by ISUZU
I think you are right about the ship being Braniac and the person acting the part (lets call him Spike) - is just a personification of Braniac, which allows Braniac to interract and move around with the rest.

This is what I think also. Check out the part of my post here:

http://www.kryptonsite.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=2000157#post2000157

I think the ship/Brainiac can produce as many Fine's as are equal to it's matter. What I'm wondering is what will become of him/it. I don't think he/it will die since he appears in the future, but I don't know what Clark will do to get rid of him on Earth. Perhaps introduce the virus brew he's making into Brainiac himself, causing him to get severely damaged and leave the planet.

[muffinpeddler]

Originally posted by The Shadow
Yes, I know they've stated that he is Brainiac and that's the character their using.

What I was saying is that his origin and the way their using him on the series is more along the lines of the Eradicator from the books.

I don't know why they just didn't use that character. Maybe they thought Brainiac was a more recognizable villain to the general public.

I would also hope that they would atleast have Fine at some point refer to himself as Brainiac to Clark so they atleast say the name on the show.

I can understand with the other "guest heroes" on the show not using their comic book handles like Flash, Aquaman or Cyborg because their not using them yet at this point in time but Fine IS Brainiac and I'm guessing that's the name this AI was given back on Krypton so hopefully they'll use it.

But see, Brainiac didn't call himself Brainiac in the comics, it was just a moniker Supes or lois called him that stuck over time and he eventually used himself. his real name was Vril Dox, who possessed Milton Fine. Since this Brainiac starts out as as an A.I., someone will probably just give him the name (My guess is Chloe).

Yes, he does seem to have more in common with the Eradicator, but they knew Brainiac would attract more viewers. Next to Lex Luthor, he's Superman's most recognizable enemy, with Zod and Doomsday trailing behind.

[james.olsen]

Okay heres my theory the ship is actually the eradicator. The eradicator was created about 200,000 years ago and was an "intergrated analysis and weapons system" which gained sentience (all this is from the comic series). And this bit is my theroy somwhere along it's way to earth it picked up Brainiac and bestowed him open him the powers that a Kryptonian would have on Earth as long as he did it's bidding as the eradicator cannot take a human form (yet! give it time) And the eradicator was created by Zod

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Maybe the ship is the real Brainiac and Milton Fine is just a tiny portion of his power.


i agree