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The Great Ymmij
03-31-2006, 08:51 AM
I really didn't like how they wrote the story for who Clark would potentially end up with. For more than 4 1/2 seasons, the writers pushed to make us believe Lana was Clark's true love. They made so many freakin' episodes teasing us about their future together. The most notable one was Reckoning where we finally got a chance to see the proposal and their happiness together.
Why would the writers just scrap that all up and make Martha say that Lana probably isn't "the One?" Clark still remembers when he proposed to Lana and how much love they felt for each other at that time, so he should've still been in deep love with Lana even now. I just don't understand the writers...

UpandAtom
03-31-2006, 10:22 AM
Clark only proposed to Lana at the time because he was afraid of losing her to Lex. That doesn't mean that he thinks she's the one. Martha's logic is that if Lana couldn't accept Clark for who he is then she's probbably not the one he's meant to be with. And in reality, Lana probably wouldn't be able to accept the fact that Clark caused her parents' death (something that she didn't find out in "Reckoning").

Smallville619
03-31-2006, 11:21 AM
here is my point :

Martha is not the only parent who said Lana may not be the one , JK said she might not be the one and they both picked up of the Tension between Lois and Clark from Season 4 to the Present Day

Offworlder 1
03-31-2006, 12:15 PM
The one for Clark is not cause Lois is Lois its cause she accepts his abilties and doesn't care hes not human. If anyone loved him and knows what he can do , accepts that and is told by him its that Clark can trust that person. Lois doesn't even marry him the first time or second time he proposes to her but she still loves him for who he is and never uses the knowledge against him.

This is why Lana will never be his soulmate cause she hunts for the truth about him and hounds him about things she should not unless hes ready to talk about them.Lana shouldn't care how he does things or save her but remember he goes out of his way to help her and love him for that not ask 20 questions , she even relies on him to save her but show no or little thanks for it. Lois thanks him as seen in : facade and recruit. Lois doesn't even care in Blank when she sees his strength.

darkone
03-31-2006, 12:57 PM
Lol shes waiting for 5 years now and shes willing to wait longer as you can see in Hypnotic.And she accept who he is if you have viewed Reckoning.And Blank? hm didnt said Chloe "Lana is the love of your life" even when Lois was in the picture?And again Reckoning JKīs "we couldn't imagine Clark spending the rest of his life with anyone but you".I think Al/Miles playin with our minds until the series ends i think.

F-Stop Blues
03-31-2006, 01:05 PM
Im going to go out on a limb and say 99.9% of the viewers know that Clark Kent loves Lois Lane eventually. So I think that tptb went on that and thats why they can tease you with Clark and Lana when everyone knows that Clark ends up with Lois.

Rafael122
03-31-2006, 01:37 PM
The way that scene went, Martha might as well have had a picture of Lois.

The Great Ymmij
03-31-2006, 01:42 PM
Well Clark is SUPPOSED to be with Lois. Everybody knows that. But the writers make too many instances showing how Lana is "the one." It gets annoying. I mean teasing would be instances where the viewers know for a fact that Lana cannot be the one for clark, but the writers went beyond that and made us believe that Lana could be his wife.

F-Stop Blues
03-31-2006, 01:44 PM
Originally posted by The Great Ymmij
Well Clark is SUPPOSED to be with Lois. Everybody knows that. But the writers make too many instances showing how Lana is "the one." It gets annoying. I mean teasing would be instances where the viewers know for a fact that Lana cannot be the one for clark, but the writers went beyond that and made us believe that Lana could be his wife.


But the fact is Clark does end up with Lois and everyone knows that so teasing that Lana is the one is irrelevant since she obviously isnt. Your not supposed to believe that they are going to end up together unless you have no knowledge of the Superman myth so they are showing you why Clark doesnt end up with Lana.

kikidee
03-31-2006, 02:02 PM
I'm new to this site so let me first say Hi.

I think that the problem is how the writers have decided to focus on hinting at the future of Clark and Lois. Yes we all know that eventually that is who Clark ends up with but that is suppose to be in the future. he doesn't even hook up with Lois til he' s what in his late twenties or early thirties. Smallville was suppose to be about Clark before all that.

Besides they have changed the history of Clark/Superman so many other times on this show but for some reason they can't for the Clark and Lana story.

Has for Lana not accepting Clark and his powers, her saying yes in reckoning proves that she can. Clark just refuses to give her that chance because I think he's afraid of having to deal with her knowing. And for those of you who are big Lois fans, She falls in love with Superman and his powers not Clark Kent. That was one of the biggest reasons that he had a hard time revealing the fact that underneath the cape he was Clark Kent. Once Lois found out, she stayed not because he was Clark but because he was still Superman.

UpandAtom
03-31-2006, 02:05 PM
I think that Martha and Jonathan are just catching up on the fact that Clark keep on making excuses for not telling Lana. They think that if he really cared about her he would tell her already. Clark told Pete because he wanted to keep his friendship, but he seems to keep putting it off when it comes Lana.

gottaralane
03-31-2006, 02:13 PM
Ok she accepts Clark but after what 4? 5 hours thinking about it? She herself told Lois when she ask her if she would feel different about that person cause his secret and she answer that maybe it would.
That proves that Lana wasnīt sure about marrying Clark maybe if she hadnīt died in the first reality with the time a week maybe 2 she would realise that she canīt handle that and her fears about the aliens and all that stuff will come back to her life. And maybe we had seen that scene "Scare" againg

kikidee
03-31-2006, 02:23 PM
It was Clark that told her to think about her answer. If someone just told you that they were from another planet and then followed it with a proposal you might want to have some time to digust that too. Has for the "maybe" Lana gave, it could have meant anything. Maybe it made her understand him more. love him more who knows because the writers didn't play that out completely. The simple fact is once she said yes that meant she accepted his secret. Of course some feelings would change, he's an alein for god sake, but her love didn't.

UpandAtom
03-31-2006, 02:24 PM
Lana didn't find out everything in "Reckoning" so we don't know how she'll feel when Clark tells her that he caused her parents' death.

gottaralane
03-31-2006, 02:48 PM
all Iīm saying she had not enough time to think about it and she rushed saying yes

UpandAtom
03-31-2006, 02:53 PM
3 hours isn't enough time. She has to adjust to the fact that Clark is an alien, he has powers, and, on top of that, a marriage proposal. The comics Lois had a longer time to adjust to all those things. Lana couldn't be expected to make a sane decision immediately.

gottaralane
03-31-2006, 03:01 PM
All I can say is: God bless Martha Kent the only person who can grab Clark and say "Wake up boy she is not the one there are a lot a girls out there who are better for you than this drama queen"

UpandAtom
03-31-2006, 03:03 PM
Martha never meant it that way. In "Reckoning" she said that she couldn't imagine anyone else with Clark. Maybe her knowing that Lana's the cause of Jonathan's death is what causes her to tell Clark to push her away.

kikidee
03-31-2006, 03:04 PM
Lois took time adjusting to Clark being Superman not to being an alien. She was already in love with the alien part.

dragonchic
03-31-2006, 03:31 PM
kikidee, no offense, but you really need to brush up on your Superman history. Post-Crisis Lois was engaged to Clark before she knew he was Superman. She loved Clark, and had to think over whether to continue the engagement because she wasn't sure if she wanted to be Mrs. Superman.

LuckyKrypto
03-31-2006, 03:57 PM
Originally posted by UpandAtom
Martha never meant it that way. In "Reckoning" she said that she couldn't imagine anyone else with Clark. Maybe her knowing that Lana's the cause of Jonathan's death is what causes her to tell Clark to push her away.

I didn't think that was Martha that said that, wasn't it Jonathan? :confused: I could be wrong. But I thought that never happened because Clark went back and changed things??

UpandAtom
03-31-2006, 04:00 PM
It was Jonathan, but he said "we" instead of "I" and Martha showed no objection to Clark marrying Lana in the beginning of the episode.

LuckyKrypto
03-31-2006, 04:05 PM
Originally posted by UpandAtom
It was Jonathan, but he said "we" instead of "I" and Martha showed no objection to Clark marrying Lana in the beginning of the episode.

I wonder though what she really thought?
Having Jonathan answer for her doesn't really mean I know what she thought. Maybe her comment about the "she's not the one", are 'her' feelings about Lana.

liana
03-31-2006, 04:09 PM
Originally posted by dragonchic
kikidee, no offense, but you really need to brush up on your Superman history. Post-Crisis Lois was engaged to Clark before she knew he was Superman. She loved Clark, and had to think over whether to continue the engagement because she wasn't sure if she wanted to be Mrs. Superman.

It is amazing how people often think that Lois accepted Clark because he was superman. It is interesting, because even pre-crisis Lois Lane, in Earth 2, married Clark without knowing he was superman at all. In fact, even Clark didn't remember when he proposed. When she found out, she tried to leave him, because she knew that he only asked her to marry him because he didn't remember. ;)

I guess people always think that Lois loved Superman instead of Clark because of the Superman movies that went with that. But then, again, in these movies Superman was the real person and Clark Kent was a disguise. :\

UpandAtom
03-31-2006, 04:18 PM
Maybe Lois just decided to settle with Clark because she knew she could never be with Superman. If you're girlhood crush was Brad Pitt, you'd know you would never end up marrying him so you'd just settle for the next best thing. That's what Lois did. She knew she could be with Superman so she settled for Clark Kent.

LuckyKrypto
03-31-2006, 04:22 PM
I don't think Lois settled for Clark. She loves him (Clark I mean)

liana
03-31-2006, 04:30 PM
Originally posted by UpandAtom
Maybe Lois just decided to settle with Clark because she knew she could never be with Superman. If you're girlhood crush was Brad Pitt, you'd know you would never end up marrying him so you'd just settle for the next best thing. That's what Lois did. She knew she could be with Superman so she settled for Clark Kent.

No she didn't. She almost break up her engagement with Clark when he told her he was superman, so this is not true. The reason she had so much problems with Clark at the begining was because he "stole her story" on her point of view. :\ Lois had a really hard time forgiving that. They were also rivals for a long time in the newspaper. She finally fell in love with him, he proposed and she accepted. Then, after some time, he told her he was superman and she almost break her engagement. Then she finally did, after he kissed Lori Lemaris. They stayed apart for a while because she felt he was always trying to protect her and didn't let her do her job right. Even nowadays, Lois still has issues with Clark's trying to protect her all the time. So, this theory of her "settling for Clark" is not true at all in the Comics Universe.

Quoting Lois Lane from the Comics: "Even though I'm married to Superman, I can't live without Clark Kent." (it is not the exact quote, but it is something like that.)

Maybe in Smallville Universe it will be different, because everything is different in Smallville. But in the DC Comics, Lois Lane is in love with her husband, Clark Kent. She was dazzled by superman, once, but she fell for Clark. That's why she accepted him. It was very clear for everyone who read the comics.

LuckyKrypto
03-31-2006, 04:42 PM
Yep she says something more along the lines of "Under that costume your Clark Kent, you'll always be Clark. You can't live without him and neither can I."

I just read that story, that's how I remember that :) Love that when she says that!!!

liana
03-31-2006, 04:55 PM
Originally posted by LuckyKrypto
Yep she says something more along the lines of "Under that costume your Clark Kent, you'll always be Clark. You can't live without him and neither can I."

I just read that story, that's how I remember that :) Love that when she says that!!!

The Comics give us memorable Clois moments. I must say I love their relationship. Unfortunatelly we didn't have any real romantic relationship in Smallville, only the Kents, and it is over now... Clana had their moments, but on the whole it was so bad written that is a shame. It should have been better. If I was a clana fan I would feel really bad for what they did. :\

j-kent
04-01-2006, 10:30 PM
Originally posted by The Great Ymmij
I really didn't like how they wrote the story for who Clark would potentially end up with. For more than 4 1/2 seasons, the writers pushed to make us believe Lana was Clark's true love. They made so many freakin' episodes teasing us about their future together. The most notable one was Reckoning where we finally got a chance to see the proposal and their happiness together.
Why would the writers just scrap that all up and make Martha say that Lana probably isn't "the One?" Clark still remembers when he proposed to Lana and how much love they felt for each other at that time, so he should've still been in deep love with Lana even now. I just don't understand the writers...

Even though it doesn't correctly fellow the usual superman/superboy mythology (Smallville being a much more "twisted harsh" version) it does stay true that Lana IS NOT the one for the Clark. They can't fit everything in a season, so I think they're kinda hurrying up the inevitable, much the way they are doing it is not so pleasing to most.

auxvis
04-02-2006, 02:49 PM
You have to remember that Lana is Clark's first love...Smallville is the story of how Clark became the man he is and how he eventually becomes Superman...His pining for Lana is part of that. Without his relationship with Lana and all of those mistakes he would have made them with Lois later...So it was crucial for us to see all of these episodes about Clark's love for Lana and pining for her.

As for JK's line in Reckoning about Lana being the one for Clark...He said that because he knows that Clark has asked her to marry him and he is an honorable man that will welcome her to the family...He can't see Clark with anyone else because Clark has never shown (really shown!) that he wanted to be with anyone else.

All about Clark
04-02-2006, 10:07 PM
I agree auxvis.

The whole thing with Martha, is that when Clark told her he asked Lana to marry him, she was all for it. But the very fact that he didn't tell her from the Reckoning events, that Martha took it as that there was more to it than just her safety, for instance, her association with Lex. The fact is, if Lana was the one, he would have found a way to tell her the secret regardless of the previous outcome, that there had to be something more to it than her safety.

Jokerisdaking
04-10-2006, 12:39 AM
Originally posted by Rafael122
The way that scene went, Martha might as well have had a picture of Lois.

ROTFLMAO!!!!!!! :) :) :)

auxvis
04-10-2006, 03:23 AM
I could see that...

she could be like *Cough cough* look here, hint hint *cough*

Jokerisdaking
04-10-2006, 10:16 AM
Martha sneaks up to Clark and starts whispering in his ear: Marry Lois.

Clark: Im sorry did you say something mom?

Martha: No son nothing {she waits for Clark to turn around} Whispers: Marry Lois.

TLMSKent
02-04-2008, 03:36 PM
she was so wrong, lana and clark so belong together ... who cares about superman? this is smallville, loads better than the stupid comic (no offense to anyone) ... there's no need for him to break up with lana just because in the superman stuff he's with lois. here and now in smallville he belongs with lana and that's that.